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Jan. 14, 2026 - Real Coffe - Scott Adams
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Episode 3072 CWSA - The Scott Adams School 01/14/26

Let's continue the Scott Adams love and carry on Scott's lessonsRemembering Scott Adams

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Morning, everyone.
Welcome to the inaugural session as a stream for the Scott Adams School.
I'm glad you're here.
And we make, oh, and can we make sure that the feeds are up?
Is locals on?
Okay, just checking.
Okay, I see everybody.
Okay, thanks.
I see some comments from locals.
So it looks like people are here.
But I have no visibility into the rest.
So hopefully it's all working.
But yeah, welcome, welcome, everyone.
And I'm glad you're here.
I think we have one special guest, Mark Schneider, who will probably talk to us in a little bit here.
But otherwise, we're just hanging out together and we can talk about the news.
We can talk about, you know, lessons from Scott.
We can talk about your memories of Scott or how he's influenced you, whatever you want.
And we have a few people here to kick it off.
And I'll turn it over to Joshua Lysak, who's going to do the simultaneous sip.
Joshua?
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Thanks, Joshua.
My pleasure.
Something that I noticed last night.
We have Joel.
Joshua, is that Joel?
Hi, Joel.
Oh, hi.
I'm on the beach in Santa Monica.
This is where I would often listen to the show.
Oh, I love it.
You're back in Cali.
Yeah, Scott would often do the show, and he knew I was on the beach.
He actually mentioned me once or twice.
He'd say, for those of you working out on the beach.
Oh, that's so great.
Hey, Joshua.
If, if, Owen, if you don't mind, Joshua has had quite the day yesterday with all of his Scott stuff.
And I thought, why am I saying Joshua?
Why am I saying Joshua?
Joel, that is so weird.
Okay.
Joel had quite the day yesterday with all things Scott.
And if you don't know, Joel is writing Scott's biography.
And Joel, why don't you tell us about what you were experiencing yesterday, like between People Magazine and the New York Times and all that stuff?
Like help us process this day yesterday.
Well, of course it was predictable that they would attack Scott because that's what our media unfortunately do when you have a critical perspective on how things work on people in power.
And I predicted that would happen.
Not that I had anything like Scott's powers of prediction.
I've just seen this happen before.
We've all seen it before.
But it happened after Charlie Kirk and it happened 15 years ago after Andy Reitbart passed away 14 years ago.
And I had just seen it before, but I also felt like Scott would have wanted us to transcend it.
So I tried not to let it get to me.
What was really amazing about yesterday was how much love there was that just came from everywhere.
And when someone passes away that people know from public life, there's always that reaction.
But this was several times greater than anything I anticipated.
I'm sure Scott would have been completely blown away by it.
The number of people he influenced, the amazing things that people said about how he had changed their lives.
That was incredible.
And I know we'll talk more about that today.
I want to just add one thing that happened last night where Scott was very much in my thoughts.
And I think this is how many of us will continue to engage with Scott long after this week passes.
I was invited on CNN, and my friend Alex Michelson, who hosts the very late night show there, he used to host a show in California called The Issue Is on Fox 11.
And he's one of the fairest people in media.
So he moved to CNN.
They gave him the late night show called The Story Is.
And he had already invited me to come on and talk about the Palisades fire.
Pacific Palisades is right behind me, by the way, in the far distance in Malibu.
And I said, Great.
And then yesterday I sent him a text message and said, I'm going to talk about Scott Adams as well.
And he said, oh, that's great.
Yes, talk about Scott.
He said, Can you also talk about the billionaire attacks in Florida or, excuse me, in California?
I said, sure.
I'll talk about the billionaire attacks.
And he said, okay, you're going to be on with this left-wing panelist.
I said, no problem.
I got there.
And the first thing that they showed us in the show, and you can go and watch the video, it's in my feed on X at Joel Pollock.
The first thing they show us is a video of a woman being arrested by ICE in Minneapolis.
And I had no idea we were going to talk about that, none whatsoever.
And I was a bit thrown off by it because I knew we were going to talk about Scott.
I knew we were going to talk about the billionaire attacks.
I didn't know we were going to talk about this video.
And Alex played the video, and the left-wing guest responded and condemned it, talked about what a terrible country we are, what this kind of thing can happen.
And all I could hear in my mind was Scott saying, You can't trust video.
Videos lie.
Yeah.
You don't know the context.
You don't know the full video.
And so that's how I answered.
Alex came to me and he said, Well, what do you think of this video?
And I said, Well, I don't know what to think.
I don't know anything about this video.
It's the first time I'm seeing it.
We don't know what happened before.
We don't know what happened afterwards.
And I almost wanted to go all the way and say, Scott Adams told us you can't trust video, but I didn't want to go that far because I thought that if people hadn't heard that before, it would be upsetting, especially if what happened in the video really turned out to be bad, that this was an innocent person who was being pulled out of her car.
So I just made my point and I said, look, this kind of interaction wouldn't have to happen if there was cooperation between state and local law enforcement and ICE.
And I really wanted to get back to talking about Scott.
We did eventually talk about Scott.
Well, overnight, the New York Post, which is my employer through the California Post, came out with a story.
They actually covered this video independently.
I didn't say anything about it.
They just worked on the story.
And it turned out this woman had driven her car to block the street so that ICE vehicles couldn't get through.
So they weren't just picking on some random person.
And whatever you think of ICE and immigration policy or whatever, it's not important to the story.
What's important is that this woman did this provocative thing.
And in fact, maybe it makes ICE look better because this time nobody was shot.
But it was just so incredible to me that I had sat there feeling uncomfortable about this video, thinking of Scott warning me in the back of my mind, videos lie.
You don't know.
You don't know until you see the whole thing.
And sure enough, the story was completely different.
I mean, we were asked basically to condemn ICE on set.
If you watch the video, you'll see that was the way things were supposed to happen.
And I just said, I don't know anything about this video.
And I'm just thinking about Scott.
And I just think these little lessons that we have every day, and not just about politics.
I mean, here I am on the beach, and I didn't know if I was going to exercise, but I thought, you know, I'm going to exercise the way I used to.
Scott would have said, just get out there, even just a few minutes.
And I think these little lessons that we interact with as we go about our daily lives, where we would remember things and maybe discover new things we hadn't seen before, new videos, new writing, or old writing that we hadn't read.
Anyway, we're just continuing to think about Scott.
And I don't think I ever showed him a live video from the beach.
I did once in a while send him a picture from the beach, but this was always a beautiful place to come and hear what Scott had to say.
So anyway, just want to send my greetings to everyone out there to Shelly and Josh and Marcella and everybody else who's participating and keeping this going.
Thank you so much, Joel.
That was like such a perfect example, like of something Scott has taught us that you just implemented in real time and gave us a story of how well that worked out for you.
Because the opposite would have been like, oh, I'm on CNN and I have to give an answer because I'm my camera right now.
Let me quick form an opinion.
And then, like you said, you don't even really know what the whole story is.
So that thank you because that was such a good way to show us like, take a beat, like just take a beat.
We don't know what it was.
Like, you know, I don't have the context.
I don't know what happened before or after.
So thanks for putting Scott's words into action and showing us what that looked like.
Sorry, Owen, you know me.
I'm a hijacker.
Well, I'm going to say I'm going to continue listening.
I have to get to work.
So I'm going to turn my camera off, but just want to send love to everybody.
Please keep sending me your stories at Joel Pollock on X.
And my email address, if you want it, is jbpollock at gmail.com.
And I know that everybody in this audience is going to send me good stuff and not spam if I give out my email address.
So jbpollock.com.
Send me your recollections and your feelings, and I'll look at all of it.
Thanks, Joel.
Appreciate it.
All right.
Why don't we transition over to Mark Schneider?
Mark, go ahead.
The floor is yours.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks for having me.
Erica, thanks for reaching out and inviting me.
You know, it's interesting because I started following Scott before he was on Periscope, if you can believe that.
I joined Twitter back then when he had 30,000 followers.
And I can remember the moment that he followed me on Twitter.
And I love telling this story because it was one of those times we would like reach out for ideas for comic strips.
And I had made a suggestion that there be a new manager and that it'd be the host of Dirty Jobs Micro.
Because if you've ever worked in the corporate world, we all deal with that micromanager.
And it was like, I made that.
And then immediately he followed me.
And it just like, it made my day.
You know, it made my probably my year for that.
So this is like 2015 timeframe.
And I just remember, you know, like he was, I was the guy who would like jump on anytime I was on Periscope.
I'd be in the middle of the work, probably shouldn't have Periscope on, but I'd be jumping on, watching him and providing feedback.
I was in the U.S. Navy at that time.
You know, one of those, you know, Scott always talked about having fuck you, money.
I definitely didn't have that.
And I put my neck out there a lot during that period.
And it was just fun to watch it grow.
And when I retired in 2018, I actually had the comic strip where I was the guest character on in my retirement bulletin with the message confirming that that was me.
So all my guests at my retirement ceremony got to see some of my correspondence with Scott and get to see a Dilbert comic.
Not many people in the military put a Dilbert comic in there in their retirement pamphlet, but I thought that was important.
And then when I retired, I remember Scott had Naval Robin Con on, and they were talking about like this, it was this periscope that'll change your life.
And it was one of those that changed my life.
It was no joke.
He got done, and that's when I sent out and I put out a thread of tweets that was my green nuclear deal in response to the Green New Deal.
And that's when I became known as the nuclear advocate.
I was working at a commercial nuclear power station at the time.
And that was just a lot of fun, you know, just having that getting to know Scott, getting to know Michael Schellenberger.
And I know that in discussing with Scott, I think the big thing that the three of us did was instead of making it a nuclear yes-no conversation, we made a decision between traditional nuclear and advanced nuclear.
So we took that, you know, the lesson of Scott Adams of a make people think past the sale was it was no longer do we want nuclear.
It's a what style of nuclear do you want?
And now I'm taking those lessons that I've learned.
And for those of you who don't know, a little over a year ago, I moved to Australia.
So I'm speaking at everyone here at 11 o'clock at night in AWST time.
I live in Perth, which is the most remote city on the planet.
But Australia doesn't have nuclear power.
They have one research reactor, but they're working on getting nuclear submarines.
And so now I'm working my magic, if you will, through the lessons I've learned from Scott on how to bring the language and how do we bring nuclear energy to Australia, a nation that doesn't understand nuclear energy by any stretch of the imagination.
So it's just been, it's been a lot of fun.
And I go to public events for the Australian Submarine Agency and I ask very difficult questions because, one, it helps the crowd to develop credibility with them.
And when I have credibility with them, I'm pacing them so I can lead them.
And I know I've influenced the politicians here.
And it's all for Scott because of that.
Scott is the one that, you know, when I was struggling to decide whether to come out here to follow my wife, I followed my wife out here for the work that she's doing to support the AUKUS nuclear submarine program.
But he was a person that I bounced things off of.
And I can remember very vividly one of my favorite periscopes was the time that Joshua Lysick jumped on to talk to Scott as being the anti-Trumper turned pro-Trumper.
And that was one of my favorite periscopes as well.
So I can remember, there's just so many memories going back of Scott, you know, from watching the early Periscope days, you know, to the pandemic.
You know, I've watched him in my car.
I've watched him at work.
I've watched him in the middle of the night.
You know, I'll just everywhere.
And then I think probably one of the things I will always remember was that a couple of years ago, when I was working for the U.S. Coast Guard, I got to come out to San Francisco to do some communications equipment testing.
And I reached out to Scott and we had dinner.
And it was so funny.
I would have never asked him for a selfie, but I can, and I don't think I'm going to close it up with this.
But I can remember as you're walking out of the restaurant, he goes, now's the time when you need to ask me for the selfie that you want to ask for.
So we insisted I took that selfie and I literally have stared at that photo of us with tears in my eyes for the last several weeks, actually.
So yeah, it's I'm going to miss them greatly, but the love and outpouring and what's been amazing is going on my X feed and just seeing positive posts after positive post after positive post about Scott.
And it's been such a thing of comfort.
I've never seen X so positive in my entire life.
It's amazing.
It's probably the most wonderful.
It's so true, Mark.
Like I sounded so smart when Scott met you and started having you on.
I was like, oh, Gen 4 nuclear.
It's nothing to do with the other stuff.
And I'm like telling people, oh, all the waste can fit into one barrel.
I'm like, what am I?
That's what everybody else was saying too.
But Joshua is right here too.
And Joshua, I love that periscope also when why don't you two talk about it together about when Scott had you on?
That was amazing.
Yes, thank you.
Now, Mark, there's a chapter, I believe it's towards the ends of Reframe Your Brain that is basically all about you and about how you in part through the vehicle of coffee with Scott Adams changed the not just national, but international conversation on nuclear power.
And now we're seeing all of these venture capitalists and influencers, influencers and venture capitalists talking about how important it is to invest in all this nuclear power.
So before there's a technological or an economic transformation in a specific industry, there's the influencers to sort of give permission to explore that space.
And Mark Schneider, you personally, together with Scott Adams, sort of gave international permission for nuclear power to, shall we say, get made great again.
Ha ha.
Moving rooms with one of my kids now.
In any case, yes, we're all talking about the, I think it was June 2019.
So I began following Scott on social media in 2018, shortly after my son was born.
Wesley, you want to say hi to 22,000 people?
No.
No, okay.
Gen Alpha for you.
He's like, he'll get a message on his phone.
He's like, I don't want to see my phone.
It's like, yes, as opposed to those of us.
Always 2,000 people.
Why are there always 2,000?
No, there's 23,000 people.
See, even he knows.
Why is there only ever 20 to 30,000 people on live stream?
See, this is what we're always curious about.
Why is, you know, why is YouTube and whatnot giving the same number?
Yes.
Now, coming back to the 2018, 2019 season, I followed Scott daily on Twitter at the time during that particular period, that particular year.
And he changed my thinking significantly.
But the first, let's say, experience I had of Scott was on the matter of Donald Trump was in 2017.
I was in my CIA phase, which stands for cringe internet atheist.
And in that state, I was a real follower of Sam Harris's podcast called Waking Up.
And he had a debate with Scott Adams back in 2017.
It was, I don't remember exactly what year it was or what month rather.
And in that show, I was expecting, oh, I like the Dilbert guy.
I always liked seeing his comics and other Darryl Dilbert paraphernalia at Office Depot when I was a kid.
You go there, you see the cute, funky little screensavers.
You see the cow computers, right?
Remember Gateway?
All the calculus everywhere.
And then there was Dilbert, right?
All the Dilbert stuff.
So that was the passing a time of parents trying to make copies of everything.
So 2017, I'm a little worried that the Dilbert guy is going to get embarrassed by my guy, you know, Sam Harris.
And Scott comes off completely reasonable and normal and rational and even kind to Sam, who sort of, as we might say in the Midwest United States, Sam Harris kind of had a cow during that debate.
And I like, my guy lost.
I was not expecting this.
That was 2017.
That was the pre-suasion.
Then follow Scott for a year, read Wynn Bigley, the first edition.
And then Scott says, Hey, if you were, let's say, deprogrammed from TDS, Trump Reigns Syndrome, and you also were at one point a liberal, I'd like to have you on my show.
And I thought, that's literally me, because at that point, I had learned that so much of what was believed about Donald Trump was not moved to something not correct.
And one of those moments that I had was I was with what I like to call an NPR American.
Don't forget the hyphen.
NPR Americans are people who they consume news like NPR or like the New York Times and they believe it's real news.
And so I had seen it on a particular day, shortly before this Scott Adams offer, I had seen a Donald Trump tweet that I thought was pretty funny, which was a new thing for me, being okay with liking a tweet from the president, number 45 at that time.
And I was with an NPR American and we were listening to NPR.
And the NPR broadcaster reads the first half of the tweet, stops, does not read the rest, which provides an essential context.
And then they have on all these commentators and experts who come on talk about how this is a decency-free presidency.
And I thought, oh, wow.
Man, you know that means are we the baddies?
That I was having that sort of that experience.
And I showed it to the NPR American friend at the time.
And you know what this individual said?
Or as Scott would say, and in the visual, this person said, showing them this tweet on my phone.
Oh, that's a Photoshop screenshot.
It was live, live on Twitter.
Oh, that's a Photoshop screenshot.
That couldn't be real.
NPR wouldn't do that.
And then just glitched into cotton dissonance.
And then I began to realize that's what happened to Sam Harris.
And I awakened to the reality that I had derangement syndrome myself.
And now, thanks to Scott Holmes, I had been cured.
And so, long story short, I replied to Scott's post in 2019, went on and shared, you know, gave the interview with him there.
At the very end, he asked, you know, where can people find you?
And I said, oh, I'm at Joshua Isaac, and I'm a non-fiction book ghostwriter.
I said, oh, okay, that's pretty cool.
And I think that day, maybe the next day, I got onto his Interface by WinHub app, which was you could book experts for a specific period of time, kind of like a microtransaction, micro lesson live you could get with people.
That's how I met a lot.
That's how I met Mike Sunovich for the first time, by the way, as he was on interface at the time.
And I get on and just mention, hey, I have an interface profile.
And then I guess Scott did some homework on me and some research over the next 24 hours.
And then on his live stream the next day, he mentioned, oh, you know, we had Joshua Isaac on yesterday.
So he's this non-fiction book ghostwriter.
He does a lot of business and he's really good.
You should check him out if you want to write a book.
Something like that.
And I think I got 100 inquiries for a ghostwriter in the next probably week or so.
And that provided an initial batch of clients for me.
And through that experience, I was able to move my family from a dangerous part of town to a very safe part of a town with a new house, new opportunities, new experiences, get into rental properties and become a real estate investor.
So much of my life opened up, have more children.
So much of my life opportunity opened up because of that relationship with Scott.
And it was from the very beginning.
where he recommended me to his audience.
And then the referrals from referrals from referrals as a nonfiction ghostwriter from that one, let's say, one minute commercial that Scott gave from me back in 2019.
And then the irony, of course, is after the cancellation of 2023, I get a text message from him, I think the next day.
And I'm not going to share exactly what it said because I just don't share.
Those listening, 27,000 people watching right now, don't share your private conversations you had with Scott.
That is so tacky.
We saw all the conservative influencers doing that with Charlie Kirk.
Don't do that.
I will call you out if I see that.
I will name you and shame you.
I apologize.
That said, the gist of the conversation I had with Scott was something to the effect of he remembered what he'd said about me, what was that, four years prior.
And so that's how we ended up working together on Reframe and the second editions of his books, plus the third installment of God's Debris.
But I think it was that interview 2019, coming back to you, Mark Schneider, how you and I met for the first time was you'd watch that.
And I think you messaged me the very next day, or maybe that same day.
That's how I was introduced to the coffee with Scott Adams community.
And I will also admit, I haven't shared this story before, but I will also add that there's one other softening up experience I'd had to Donald Trump as the president and kind of the Make America Great Again movement.
And it was right around the time I watched the Sam Harris, Scott Adams debate, and Sam kind of got trounced.
And this will be my last anecdote for the morning.
And I'm going to hang it up here and bid you all farewell.
I was invited by a couple of local clients who were conservative Republicans, ghostwriting clients, to an event where there was going to be this guest speaker.
And so I'd go to this really nice country club.
And I'm still kind of a self-avowed liberal at this point, but feeling a little bit of tail between the legs experience with Sam Harris being just defeated by Scott Adams, the Dilbert guy.
Like, my favorite atheist philosopher gets absolutely trounced and humiliated by a cartoonist.
What reality is this?
And so there is a guest speaker at this event in this country club for Republicans, a county Republican Party event.
And I meet the guest speaker.
Turns out he's an author also from Ohio.
When we're hanging out there for probably a good couple hours, we're at the same table together.
And he speaks and he shares.
And I'm thinking, this is not the Republican party of we got to go invade Iraq and take out Saddam and get those weapons of mass destruction mission accomplished.
The rapture is coming at any moment.
So we got to get over there in the Middle East.
That's the sort of political religious community I grew up in.
And this guy was very different.
He sounded almost like a almost like a Democrat that I remembered from my youth about the working class this and American dream and opportunity and affording a house and a car and being able to have kids.
This is 2017.
And everyone in MAGA, they're all wearing hats.
And I'm kind of rolling my eyes at it at this point.
In time, 2017.
And this is not at all the Republican Party, I remember.
I could get used to these people.
I like these people.
And so I exchanged some writing tips and whatnot with the speaker.
We get his selfie together.
And that was my first in-person experience in my adult life where I enjoyed being around Republicans.
And I thought, I am on the same team as these people, not the guy just humiliated by the Dilbert guy.
Or as we like, you know, Garfield.
Everyone would call him Garfield, right?
Scott Adams.
So, anyway, as many of you have just guessed, the guy I was chatting with for a few hours there, that was JD Vance as a citizen before he was in politics doing his book tour.
And I thought, this is my Republican party right here.
Awesome.
Thank you for the opportunity, everyone.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Joshua.
Thank you.
Very cool, Josh.
Thanks.
Sure thing.
Good to see you.
Beverly.
Beverly, why don't you jump on and tell us who you are and say your say.
I'll tell, I can tell everyone that you are an OG locals woman.
You are my soul sister.
And Beverly greets Scott's beloveds every morning by saying, Good morning, lovies, because you all are my lovies.
And, you know, I don't really have a fancy story or anything remarkable about how I came to follow Scott, other than, you know, it was 2016 and I'm cruising Twitter.
And of course, I've already decided, you know, I like this Trump guy.
The minute he said, only Rosie O'Donnell, I was hooked.
I thought this is somebody different and he's going to wipe the floor, you know, with everybody.
And he did, but nobody else was feeling that way.
And then I came upon this tweet, simple one-sentence tweet by Scott about Hillary, how she looked like the science fiction president of the galactic.
I laughed.
I tear, I cry, laugh the entire day over that simple tweet.
And I said, you know what?
One sentence, I've got to have this person in my life.
And I stumbled across his periscope and I've never left.
And the thing about Scott Adams that I think we all probably agree on is a coffee hour with Scott Adams was like Christmas every day.
There was a present.
It was going to be opened and you didn't know what it would be.
But he always had something new and different.
And it could be triggered by just the smallest thing, a comment that somebody in the chat said.
And he would pick up on it.
And we would get 15 minutes of awesome content and feedback on that.
And so, you know, yesterday I made kind of a tribute post right after we found out that he'd passed, you know, and I did it simply because I could barely breathe.
And when I can't breathe, I type.
So I typed this, you know, what he meant to me and his passing as a small tribute, I suppose.
And it got picked up by Jack Pasabic and reposted, and it absolutely blew up.
I spent the rest of the day trying to respond to people who were saying, oh my God, yes, that's me.
Oh, my God, you said it perfectly.
That's exactly how I'm feeling.
Oh, it was exactly like that.
And what am I going to do now?
And, you know, and I spent the entire day trying to personally respond to all of these people.
And I mean, we're talking hundreds and hundreds of people.
And, you know, it occurred to me that there is still a tremendous hunger out there.
Scott was the compass for a lot of people, and they've suddenly lost their compass.
And, you know, they feel adrift.
They just feel adrift.
And I think we all feel adrift.
But we were so lucky to have 10 years with him, 10 years every day.
And we have people out there who were only six months in or two years in.
And, you know, they were starting to get into a groove, you know, feeling like they were going in the right direction.
And then he's gone.
So somehow we've got to, you know, between all of us, and it's going to be mostly you guys, not me.
I mean, I'm so old, I can, I'm so forgetful.
I can hide my own Easter eggs.
Stop it.
Well, seriously, I can hide my own Easter eggs.
But, you know, between all of us, we should be able to keep his spirit and his intention and his message rolling.
You know, keep it, we do keep that train rolling.
And he was so much a part of my day.
I tell this story, you know, and it still tickles me because it's true.
I never missed 10 o'clock, never missed.
And there were times when I was actually sitting in the exam room at my doctor, you know, because they chase after old people four or five times a year.
So, and you have to show up.
So I'm sitting there and it's 10 o'clock, and the doctor's getting ready to, you know, talk to me or whatever it is.
And I tell him, hush, wait, hush, just a moment.
Wait a minute.
We're getting ready to do the simultaneous sip.
And of course, he's just, I told my doctor to hush and wait because it was time for the sip.
Now, how bad are you when you do that?
You know, so anyway.
Did you not notice that Scott was hushing away the staff during when he was sitting in the hospital?
So he was doing the same thing you were.
Yes, yes, yes.
We're that important to each other.
You know, you got to have your priorities, right?
So anyway.
The ambulance was the one that blew me away.
Yeah, I know.
It's nuts.
We're nuts.
We're all nuts, but we're nuts in a good way.
So, you know, if whatever I can do, you know, I'm not a real tech savvy person.
I'm sitting here literally holding my phone because Erica gave me like four minutes notice.
And I'm not set up for this sort of thing, but I will try to be if I'm going to be, you know, recalled in the future.
But the important thing, we got to hang together.
We can't fracture and let this dissipate or fade.
So I think it's, you know, incumbent upon us to, if nothing else, take this to the next level for Scott, you know, and pull those people in who are sitting on the fringes, you know, those who were just starting out and now they're feeling lost.
And yesterday, I wanted to mention, Erica, that yesterday I had a lot of people say, what do I do now?
What am I going to do now?
And I just, all I did was paste the link to X Coffee with Scott Adams community.
And I said, we're not going away.
You know, just go here, join this community, and there will be some arms that will reach out for you and let you know what other options are coming available.
So I'm going to say to all you beloveds out there and my lovedies that if you happen to be on X and you're in Scott's community and you see a name that you don't recognize, speak to them, comment, like, give them some encouragement, bring them into the fold, and we will go from there.
And I will shut up now and let others talk.
And it's so wonderful, wonderful to be alive and to be with you.
And I loved him dearly.
Thanks, Beverly.
Likewise.
Thank you for mentioning the coffee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go, Marco.
Fox in Australia.
I keep forgetting.
Beverly, you were just so astute.
So many things you said.
And the only thing I could think about as you were talking about all these people that are, you know, shall we say lacking in compass?
But if you've read God's debris, one of the things that Scott talks about is that, you know, the vision that he had was that God had created, you know, separated himself out into the world.
And maybe we are Scott's debris, right?
And I think that's kind of where we are: is that we are out here and Scott has trained us and guided us.
And collectively, we can create, recreate Scott and help each other.
So I just, I really appreciate what you said, Beverly.
So I'm sorry I had to jump in there, Eric.
Didn't mean to take over your show, but oh my God, it's not my show.
I'm just a control freak.
And the chat's probably over there and locals like, no, this is just Erica.
Poor Owen.
He's like, Erica, I have news stories.
I'm surprised she hasn't used her hands more.
Oh, yeah, look at me.
Oh, and I'm trying to get to the news, but it's so hard.
It's perfectly fine.
We are where we are.
That being said, yeah.
Oh, and Beverly, thank you so much for mentioning the Coffee with Scott Adams community on X because it is, there's like, I don't know, there's like 10,000 some odd people on there now who want to be there for Scott.
The only thing is I ask you, you guys, if you see anything sketchy or shady, just report the post for me so I can boot them out of the community.
Because we want to keep it positive.
And I'm not, you know, like I've turned into Cernovich like in the last few months and I am blocking like nobody's business.
Like as soon as I get cranky, I'm like blocked, blocked, blocked.
And so I want to be able to do that for Scott too.
Like I don't want to put up with any nonsense over there.
His legacy and his memory, which I can't believe I'm saying, are too important to this universe.
So it's nothing about respect and love and community.
And it does not cost anything to be in that community.
There's a button on top that says join.
Just hit join and you're part of that community and share your stories.
And please, you guys, dig up all the videos of Scott cracking up because I love them so much.
And I was listening to, and you can always scroll back and listen to his other live streams, but I was listening to one today.
It was from like 10 months ago.
And it was just funny because when he opened, he's like, okay, before we get to the serious news, and then he's like, you know, I saw a story about a juvenile detention center where the people in charge were setting up like, oh, what was the word?
Like these like little warrior battles with the people that were in there.
And so you're like, oh my, like your first reaction as a normal person is like, oh my God, they're going to do like gladiator fighting with the juvenile inmates.
But then like Scott starts laughing and he's like, I shouldn't be laughing.
He's like, but he's like, what?
You know, like, these are juveniles and they're good.
And I'm just like, you know what?
He just reminds me, like, look at this story from different angles.
And if you can laugh about it a little bit, it's okay.
And he just made everything okay by seeing the funny and the spin and the humor and things.
But is there a news story that we should probably talk about today while we have 20 minutes left, Owen?
I can pull up my feed.
Hold on a sec.
Okay.
I'm sure, I'm sure something's happening.
I know that there was a ruling from SCODIS on women's men being in women's sports.
And I don't think I caught that one.
Trump, there's a win on affordability.
Apparently, rents are dropping because of all the deportations.
There's 20 metro areas.
They ranked them according to how rents are changing.
And most of them are going down significantly.
Like Austin is down 7%.
San Diego is down 6%.
San Jose is down 5%.
DC is down almost 5%.
So affordability is on the way for a lot of people.
Can you afford that to the prime minister of Australia?
Yeah.
Well, I don't know how much immigration you're having in Australia, but I suppose you might be having the same problem we are.
I mean, I thought you kind of had that ocean surrounding you that would protect you, but so do we, supposedly.
And it doesn't seem to be happening either until Trump shut down.
Housing prices here are atrocious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And meanwhile, Elon Musk is telling us we don't even need to save for retirement because AI is going to just make everything abundant and it won't matter.
So don't even.
That was my favorite story.
I was like, oh my God, let's go, Elon.
I don't even have to save.
I'm going to have so much money and prosperity, according to him and AI.
I'm loving that.
Yeah.
Don't worry about the fact that it probably also means money is worthless and we won't have anything of value.
Thanks, Ellwin.
But hey, you know, I don't know.
I know Musk has this vision.
I don't know how it would ever happen that way.
It seems so unlikely to me.
Even if most of what he thinks is going to happen is true, like if robots and AI really do take over all the jobs and make everything super cheap.
I just, I can't envision in my mind how the people who owned the robots would just say, you know what, we're going to just give all this wealth to everybody and have this universal high income and have a huge tax on the robots and essentially just hand over all of our company wealth that we're making off this super cheap manufacturing that we're able to do now to everybody.
Just give it away.
Yeah, it feels like it feels like high falute and socialism to me, but what do I know?
It just seems so much more likely that the companies would say, I just want to keep all this for my profits and maybe the prices will go down, but it would still end up being going to the companies, I would think.
Mark.
Yeah, so I work with my company.
We have an AI that works in defense secure networks.
So it doesn't have the same issues of a hallucination.
But literally, I was using it to evaluate some questions.
And it literally was like, well, it's implied this.
It's like, I don't care what's implied.
I care what's written.
And I'm like, I want you to look in this document.
Like, those words don't exist in that paragraph.
I'm literally have the document open and it has a copy of it.
I'm like, those words are not in that paragraph.
Where are you getting these words?
And we have a very low hallucination AI.
And I'm like, if they can't solve that at this point, like I feel like AI is, it's useful.
It's helpful.
It's another tool, but it just makes, it just means that one person can do a lot more.
I mean, I use it to write emails.
I use it to do a lot of research, but I always have to verify it.
I'm verifying work instead of doing the research, right?
So it will tell me where something's at.
I can validate that and then move on.
So it allows me to triple my workload, but I don't think it's going to be replacing as many jobs as I think that these AI futurists believe.
I know Scott feels like it had AI is kind of plateaued now.
So we'll see if it pushes forward.
I don't mind a little plateau that we can catch our breath with it and reevaluate and just like, how much further do we want to go with it?
So maybe this is a good thing right now.
I would still encourage everyone to learn AI, try it out, see how useful it is for you.
I've been doing that more and more and I'm amazed by what it can do.
And I use it every day at work and it saves me tons of time.
I mean, just like, I don't know, probably over 50% productivity gain.
I mean, it just, you know, things that used to take me a week to do or at least several days, I can just do it in like an hour.
And I do have to have expertise, like you said, to be able to know when it's giving me BS and to correct it and to edit it and to even, I think the magic part is knowing what questions to ask and how to phrase it to give it specific instructions and not leave anything important out.
And, you know, that I think that's the part that's difficult if you're just a novice, like in a field.
Like if you're trying to, you know, have it tell you something about nuclear energy and you know nothing about nuclear energy, then I think you're going to have a hard time.
But if you are an expert, then you can ask it the right questions with the right words and it can, you know, at least tell you what it knows.
And it's kind of like a huge, you know, a great research assistant.
But I think it's much more than just like a search engine.
It's, it's, it can interpret things, like you said, how it can figure out what might be implied by something or it can craft things in a certain way or summarize things that might have taken you hours to read and understand.
And all of a sudden it's, you have the gist of it in minutes.
And, you know, you can ask it to recommend things to you or, you know, give you options for things.
And it does a pretty good job with that a lot of the time.
And it does.
So I find it incredibly useful.
And I do think it's going to make a huge impact on the business world just because the people who use it might be twice as productive as the people who don't.
And that's going to be a huge differentiator over time.
And it'll impact everything.
But Owen.
Yeah.
Can I ask you a quick question?
I use Grok and ChatGPT myself.
Grok, usually, if I just need an instant answer, you know, who was president and what year.
I use ChatGPT and one of my conversations with it is titled Writing Guidance.
And sometimes I'll use it just to double check my syntax or, you know, is this actually a word?
You know, and I would type it in there and because I'd get a red squiggly on something that I thought was a common word.
So I use it.
Do you find that over time, you're training your conversations with ChatGPT or AI to come to know you?
Because I'm to the point now, I mean, I've been using this well over eight, 10 months now.
Well, you know, as soon as it became available to us, and I find that it is giving me answers that are really almost customized for me.
You know, it does remember certain artifacts.
It does remember questions that I've asked it before.
Even though I haven't told it to remember, it is starting to customize itself to my experience.
Do you find that as well?
That it's it, you're actually training to get to know you personally, you know, and not just a voice out in the void.
Yeah, I would say it's, it's highly dependent on the system.
That is something that in certain AI chatbots is kind of built in and some that it's not.
And many of them and probably most of them now have capabilities to put in that memory that you want it to have, where you can give it overall guidance.
Like you can tell it globally, like every time I talk to you, remember these things.
And I think you can give it essentially what they call like a system prompt, where every time it responds to you, it first reads the system prompt and remembers that first to put what you said into context.
And if you told it to respond a certain way or with a certain length or in a certain style, then it'll try and do that every time.
And I've noticed that it does remember those things because when I give it certain guidance, it often mentions that guidance in its response, which can be annoying sometimes because you don't necessarily want it to mention it all the time.
But you can tell that it's keeping it in mind.
And then many of them, including ChatGPT and Grok, have what they call projects now, where you can group conversations into a project and you can also upload files to it.
And it'll remember all the files that you upload to that project when you're talking to it within that project.
And it will also give you the same sort of system prompt for the project where you can say, okay, anytime I'm talking to you within this project, even if I start a new conversation within the project, always keep in mind whatever I just told you about this project.
So you can give it context.
You can say, this is what this project is about.
This is what we're trying to do.
You're an expert at this for this conversation.
And you can steer it in a particular direction for that project.
And then it'll customize what it says.
Now, within a session, usually these chatbots will remember what you just asked because it'll look back basically and say, okay, let me predict the next word, but it's the next word based on the whole history of that conversation.
And so it's going to try and keep in mind all the questions and answers and other things that it's done up to that point.
But every one of these chatbots has a limited context window.
That's what they call it, is a context window of how much it can remember.
And so if you keep talking and talking and talking in that same chat window without starting a new conversation, then eventually the first stuff that you told it, it's going to forget because it might be, let's say, 128,000 tokens, which is, you know, not necessarily exactly the same thing as words, but it's something like that.
And so if you keep going for what I would say is too long with a conversation, then it's going to start forgetting what you told it.
And it'll remember the recent stuff that you just told it, but it won't remember the stuff that was farther back.
And it might even not even have that in the conversation anymore.
If you scroll up, you'll probably see only the context window part.
And then anything before that is just gone.
It's not even in your history anymore.
And so what I've heard a lot that I try to keep in mind is you have to treat these chatbots like they have Alzheimer's.
They have a short-term memory, but they do not have a long-term memory.
And if you start a new conversation, it's like starting over with a different person.
And so you have to set all the context again.
And you can't expect it to remember what you said in a different conversation.
And if you don't start a new conversation, then you can't count on it to remember everything even within that same conversation.
You have to keep reminding it.
Like, you know, if there's something that it already said itself that you want it to remember, you might have to tell it, remember, you said this.
Or, you know, remember I told you this.
And keep reminding it.
Like just keep a text file on the side or something and just paste it back in every so often if it's important to just keep it on track.
And I'm just, I'm just laughing because I see Andy over there on the locals chat.
Said, it's like talking with Biden.
It's exactly, it's exactly like that.
You got it.
And I mean, I had, you know, it's, it's not funny, but I had a father who had Alzheimer's.
My grandfather had Alzheimer's.
And so I have experience with this.
You'll, I would ask my dad a question late late in his life, and it would be like 10 seconds later, he wouldn't remember that I just asked him the question.
And, you know, I'd have to just repeat the question, or he would answer it multiple times, not remembering that he already answered it.
I would ask him to tell me a story, and he would just start repeating himself, you know, every so often.
And, you know, that's really my experience with AI too, is that eventually it starts forgetting and it just won't keep the knowledge.
Now, again, different timber chatbots are different, like Gemini, for example, the Google AI.
That one does get to know you.
And I think that's somewhat unique.
I think the other ones are trying to replicate it.
So ChatGPT might be starting to do this.
But I know that Google is kind of hanging their hat on this.
Where if you have Gmail and if you have Google Docs and you have a whole bunch of content in there, when you use Gemini, it's going to read all of that and it's going to know all of that, or at least have access to it.
So it can look it up on a moment's notice.
Whenever you ask it something, it might do a search through all your mail forever that's on Gmail and all your documents that you may have written or uploaded or anything.
And it's going to use that when it responds to you.
And I saw an article from a journalist that said, you know, it used it to respond to an email.
Like it said, okay, you know, this, it's this person's birthday.
I want to send them a birthday message.
So craft a draft, you know, draft this email for this person.
And it was, he was blown away by the response because it, it, it remembered details of conversations that these people had between each other years prior.
And it customized this birthday response to their relationship and their specific details that no one else would have ever known.
And at first, I think he was probably like, how the hell did it do that?
But I think he realized that it must have come from all their email history and all their documents.
And he, I think this person happened to do a journal every day in some kind of Google Doc format.
And so it had like this whole person's whole life history and it really knew that person in detail.
And it could also talk like them because it could say, okay, you're telling me to draft an email for you.
So I'm going to model it after the way you talk in this journal.
Owen, I don't mean to interrupt you, but we're coming down on time.
And Mark Schneider is going to teach us something about nuclear social license training.
I don't really think that's what it is.
Okay, it's AI related, which I could see it was AI related.
Yeah.
So go ahead.
And this is where I was going in it: is that so?
My company, we have AI clients that we build.
And so I went and I spent the good five to seven months building out 11 PowerPoints, making beautiful drawings and all that.
And one of my AI engineers built this in one day.
So it took my PowerPoints, took my presentations with all the text files, and it took him one day to build this.
And he said the hardest part was that I had these crazy formulas in it.
And that took half a day was to get the formulas that I had.
If I see if I could find them, were like these crazy formulas in there, the way I formatted it in PowerPoint, the AI didn't like.
And he spent half a day making those formulas look pretty using the AI agent.
Like, so that's what you can do with AI.
And then I have another story to talk about AI because I think it's all related.
But so my wife and I, we both submitted for a contract.
Both our companies did.
Her company did it the old manual method.
Our AI engineer built an AI client that it literally, I didn't had no idea that we had a meeting about this because I was having a medical procedure.
My wife says, Hey, are you submitting for this?
I said, Hey, are we submitting for this?
Like, oh, by the way, you're required to fill out two of these sections of it.
And then I reached out to her engineer, like, hey, do I need like send me our two clients?
I have enough training on our clients to be able to create them.
And in 20 minutes, I just answered some questions and it wrote up my thousand-word document.
No more than a thousand words with the word count based off of my inputs.
Took me 20 minutes.
It took my wife a week to write each one of her sections.
Super easy.
So, yeah, so there's a huge amount of use.
But again, as Ewen said, you have to, you have to be an expert in the field.
So that's the hard part: how do you get the expertise to be able to do that?
Right.
Interesting.
I love that.
Marcella, you're sitting quietly.
Do you want to add in anything?
Yeah, my name is Marcela Pena again.
I am a longtime listener, first time here, not the first time here, but I started, you know, going back.
I'm sorry, I'm going to go back to Scott, but as he would have wanted, I just wanted to, a lot of us are sad, you know, all of us are going to grief him for maybe our whole life.
And I wanted to share a reframe from him, which is get out.
Get out meant like if you were being negative in your mind or you were thinking of the past of regrets of things like that, use that to go out, do something useful today, just live how he lived, which is always being useful, always being helpful to everybody.
And that is going to help me today deal with one day without him.
Thank you.
I love that.
Yeah, I think we'll have a lot of Scottisms in our thoughts in the forefront, you know, going forward.
And they will help us get through every day and together.
And, you know, he's just seeing how much he's even taught people that were like, oh my God, like these people are so brilliant and whatever.
But no, Scott taught all of us.
I recommend if you guys did not see Gutfeld last night and you can go back and watch it.
The second block was a tribute to Scott.
And I mean, I was like, Greg, like, you are my soul brother, Greg, because we had the same experience with Scott, like how we found him, when we found him.
You know, I knew what Dilbert was.
I wasn't a Dilbert girl.
And I just was like, yeah, like this guy is saying stuff that I am totally vibing with.
This is how I feel.
And I knew when I first found him, I'm like, oh, this guy, Scott, we are totally going to be friends.
He's going to be in my life forever.
Like, I totally vibe.
I felt like whichever plane you want to talk about, the simulation, God put me, you know, into his periscope for a reason.
And it's true.
And I'm so appreciative for the connection and the friendship we had and that we could be confident and build something amazing.
And mostly because of this community that he put all of us together.
And I love you guys so much.
You know, we're going to try to do something like this every day.
This is now the Scott Adams School.
Okay.
So we're not trying to be Scott.
Obviously, we're not Scott.
No one ever could be.
But, you know, if we could get together in the morning, if it's not on video some days, maybe it'll just be on chat.
Maybe on locals, we could do like a micro lesson chat or we could do a reframe, you know, whatever it is and just hang.
But no matter where you are every day, you know, we're going to all take a simultaneous sip together.
And, you know, it'll be in honor of Scott and of this community.
And Owen, it's so hard because I can't see you.
So I don't know what you're seeing or if you're reading the chat.
So sorry, you guys, sorry, I'm just like this.
If you guys don't know me, the locals know me and I'm just kind of the person that takes over.
Sorry, not sorry.
But so sorry, Owen.
So, you know, we're going to, we'll get more into the news as time goes on, I'm sure.
So, you know, right now it's just all new.
And I wanted to bring up something that Scott would probably have talked about in his show today, which was President Trump posting about him and giving him a nickname of the great influencer.
And he would always read sometimes President Trump's truth posts on the show.
And he would say he's the best writer ever and he's this and that.
And I just wanted to bring that up because I know wherever he is, he saw that.
And it was great to see.
Also, the tribute, besides Greg Guthwell, the tribute by Megan Kelly and Glenn Beck, they really moved their audience and they were very moved by him.
But I'll give the floor to Erica again and to Owen.
I know.
Owen, do you want to close us out?
You guys want to have a goodbye sip for just bye for now, sip until tomorrow?
Go for it.
Let's do it.
We'll do it for Scott.
You guys, raise your, raise whatever vessel you have.
And until we meet again, okay?
To Scott.
Love you, Beaver.
Thanks for coming on.
You guys bear with us.
We'll see you soon.
Love you.
Thanks for coming.
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