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July 25, 2019 - Real Coffe - Scott Adams
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Episode 608 Scott Adams: Mueller, Mueller, Mueller and More Mueller
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Hey everybody!
It's Muller time!
More Muller all the time.
You know, I've never wanted to talk about Muller so much as I want to talk about it today.
And you know, this conversation, it would be good by itself If you just came here to hear a conversation, you'd probably be pretty happy with it.
But no, you could do more than that.
You can enjoy the simultaneous sip, making your conversation come alive in a way that Mueller did not make the Mueller report come alive.
And all you need to enjoy this ceremony...
This little kick to your dopamine is you need a cup or a mug or a glass, a stein, a chalice, a tankard, possibly a thermos or a flask, a canteen, a vessel of any kind, fill it with your favorite liquid.
I like coffee.
And join me for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the simultaneous hip.
Here it is. Oh!
Ugh! Extra good coffee today.
I would say my coffee has been Mullerized.
That's my new word for extra good.
Extra good. Alright, let's talk about all the stuff.
You probably watched the Muller stuff non-stop yesterday, as did I. By the end of the day, I was so full of Muller stuff, I was ready to go to sleep.
But I woke up to more Muller stuff, so let's talk about it.
Um... Let's give the overall, first of all.
I'm probably not going to say too much that maybe you didn't hear in the news treatment yesterday, but I'm going to put my own special spin on it.
Or as Nancy Pelosi might say, my special spin on it.
Number one, Mueller did not look competent.
That's sort of the big takeaway.
People are using different words to describe it.
But he didn't look like he was the same Mueller he used to be.
Now, people are trying to be kind, but Mueller did put himself in a situation where he was the face of the most important issue of the country, and maybe he should have known that he wasn't the right person for the job.
I don't know if he has declined quickly recently.
That's possible. Maybe by the time he took the job, he was in better shape.
But first of all, let us give President Trump credit for not offering him the job to head the FBI. There's a story you didn't see, right?
Is anybody saying President Trump got it right when he didn't offer Mueller the job as head of the FBI? Now, I think that Mueller is claiming that the job was never offered, or he wasn't asking for the job, I think is what he's going to say.
They just had a conversation about it.
But at that level, if the president calls you in to have a conversation about a job, you can't really walk out and say, we weren't talking about me taking the job.
You don't go to a private meeting with the president to talk about a job if you're not either the person filling the job or a candidate for it.
So, just saying.
Here are the takeaways.
Things that I learned from the Mueller investigation that I didn't know.
Was there anything that you didn't know that you learned?
There were. For me, there were some things I didn't know.
Here's one. Did you know that Glenn Simpson, the Fusion GPS guy, he met with that Russian lawyer who met with Don Jr.
in the Trump Tower meeting?
That Glenn Simpson met with that lawyer both before and after the Trump Tower meeting.
Did you know that?
I didn't know that.
Turns out that Fusion GPS is sort of in a lot of this stuff, aren't they?
There's a lot of Fusion GPS in this, but that's okay because we had this whole Mueller investigation.
And if Fusion GPS and Lee Steele dossier and all that If they were central, really, to the question that was being investigated, well, at least Mueller investigated everything about them to find out if Russia was really doing a disinformation kit.
What? What? Oh, I'm being told that he didn't look into that at all.
What? What?
The Mueller investigation...
Didn't look into whether the Steele dossier was a Russian misinformation campaign, given that the entire topic was about Russian interference, and it was the biggest, most obvious example of Russian interference.
You don't even need to be a professional to know that the Russians were Evidently involved in a major misinformation thing that could have changed our election.
Why was that not listed as one of the most major things that Russia did to influence our elections?
Why was that left out?
So I'm going to make a bold statement.
There was no Mueller investigation.
Because if Mueller left out of the investigation...
The most important part of the investigation, which is, was Russia messing with our election?
If he ignored the most important one, the one that you and I know about, I'm not sure that you could say he really investigated, could you?
I think you'd have to say there was something like a cover story of an investigation, There was something like, yeah, people got talked to, people went to jail, but I don't think you could call that an investigation, could you?
I would call it something else.
Yeah, I guess Mueller was saying it wasn't in his purview, but given that literally nobody believes that.
Now, there's a little bit of fake news, I'm going to call it fake news on this, that Mueller didn't recognize Fusion GPS information.
When it came up in the questioning.
Did you see that little exchange?
It's being reported as though Mueller had never heard of Fusion GPS. But if you listen to the actual video, it's another one of these where it can be interpreted two ways.
When I looked at it, it didn't look like that at all.
So it's being reported that Muller didn't know who Fusion GPS was.
I looked at the videotape and I said, no, that's not what's going on there.
He was confused about the question or the situation or what page or what context it was.
But he didn't say, I don't know what Fusion GPS is.
That's actually just fake news.
As far as I can tell, I looked at the same video everybody else did.
Let's say, what else?
Here's something that the public probably never heard.
I have heard this.
But it was so de-emphasized, and I think it was only on Tucker Carlson's show, and maybe no place else in the world.
This news, which came out because of the Mueller hearing, was that we don't have any direct evidence that Putin was behind any of the interference.
You know, I first heard that on Tucker Carlson's show, and I thought, wait a minute, I've been saying this from the beginning.
First of all, let me fact check this.
Is there anybody who remembers that from the very beginning, I've been saying, yes, I keep hearing that Russia is involved, but you and I have not seen any evidence of that.
Have I not been saying that since the beginning?
Yes, I understand that our intelligence services say that Russia was involved, but you and I have not heard anything.
We have seen no evidence of that.
We have seen evidence that a troll factory ran some ads, mostly pro-Trump, some of them pro-Clinton.
Who is it who will explain to me why the troll farm that was trying to help Trump explicitly ran a number of pro-Hillary ads?
Can somebody explain what was going on there?
Now, it would make more sense if somebody said, okay, we were just trying to mess with our elections in general.
But did they have a bad troll?
Did they have a little troll farm and one of the trolls went bad?
And when they said... Hey everybody, this is your job.
Make ads that are good for President Trump.
Was there a bad troll who wasn't listening that day?
And that troll decided, I think I'll make some trolls or some troll ads that are good for Hillary Clinton.
That doesn't make sense.
It never made sense.
What about that whole Steele dossier?
What about the fact that when we were saying that Russia was interfering with the election, who was the first person you heard say, Russia's interfering with the election?
Why do I keep hearing about British people?
Who told you that first?
Probably the first person who ever said, I know we're talking about it like it's Russian interference, but it looks to me like British interference.
Who said that?
Me. I probably was the first person who ever said that.
Or that you heard. I'm not the first person who ever said it, obviously.
So, I would say that the whole Mueller thing is a disgrace to the country, a complete disservice, a waste of money, except to help the president, I suppose, indirectly.
And it didn't do the basics of its job.
It didn't look into British interference and it didn't look into Russian interference because it didn't look into the Steele dossier.
So, and it did not make any direct connection that has been revealed to us or even revealed to Mueller or whoever wrote the report.
Because even the Mueller report does not say Russians did interfere.
It says it appears that way.
It seems that way.
That's a pretty, pretty big difference in a world where we're wrong about just about everything all the time.
If we lived in a world where you could be right because things look right, well, it seems right.
Therefore, when things seem right, they usually are right.
We don't live in that world.
We live in a world where when things seem exactly right, they're completely wrong.
Routinely. The most normal thing that you know about the world that maybe wasn't so obvious a few years ago, the most clear thing you know about the world is that just because, well, it seems like the Russians were involved, it feels like it, means nothing.
It doesn't mean anything.
The most basic fact of this whole story is undemonstrated, but...
It's undemonstrated, meaning unproven.
It's unproven in a world where things just seeming like they're true doesn't mean anything anymore.
So the reliability of all this is pretty close to zero for, I don't know, $25, $40 billion in all of the pain and distraction that it has caused.
Let's talk about how the Democrats are taking it.
It has been well reported that many prominent anti-Trumpers are even saying, oh my God, this was a total waste of time.
Apparently, Michael Moore came down pretty hard on Mueller.
And even Phil Mudd, who's pretty outspoken, to say the least, anti-Trumper, he said the Democrats should just shut up and move on.
He said, just shut up and move on.
Let's talk about health care.
Take the L. Phil Mudd, I give you respect for that because it's actually hard to take the L. I would say that he's got the ones who are willing to do it, the ones who are just saying, okay, that didn't work out.
It wasn't what we thought it would be.
The whole thing failed, but let's move on.
I respect that because at least it shows somebody is learning.
The people who are not moving on, they're not learning and they're not doing anything useful for the world either.
So at least Phil Mudd gets partial credit for that, but not for the last three years of ragging on the president for nothing.
Or what amounted to nothing.
Here are some more people that this whole situation is bad for.
Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders.
The reason it's so bad for Biden and Sanders is that we have this situation where everybody thought that Mueller was competent and in charge and, Everybody thought he was the man.
But it turns out And he's a patriot, so I don't want to...
I hate to malign his reputation, but it's about the country now.
It's not about him. And he's a patriot, and he probably understands that sometimes there are casualties, and unfortunately he is one in this case.
It's obvious he was too old for the job.
I think everybody would agree with that.
There's probably nobody who watched it on either side who did not come away saying, oh, turns out he was too old for that job.
Now, when you've got a Biden and a Sanders who are certainly on the cusp of the too old problem, if not unambiguously too old, that's going to kill those guys.
I don't see any chance that Biden and Sanders won't see their numbers slide somewhat directly because of Mueller.
And even though President Trump is up in years, he is so energetic and dynamic that you don't even see him that age, do you?
Do you even see Trump?
As being the same age as Mueller or Biden or those guys, it looks like apples and oranges.
Trump seems like he has every bit of energy and mental agility he ever had.
And those other guys look like they're losing a step.
Not Bernie. Let me say, Bernie does not look like he's losing a step.
But... Is he the oldest one, I think?
I think he might be the oldest one.
So the thing you worry about is that when they decline, it happens quickly.
That's the problem. All right.
I think questions are going to start swirling around Nancy Pelosi, too, because of age.
When she talks, she slurs her words, and I don't know what that's about.
Is that about age or is that about dentures?
Does anybody know? Because Nancy Pelosi, she sort of slurs her words a little bit.
Now, maybe that didn't mean as much before, but now that we've seen the Mueller risk to the country, and it is a risk, it's a pretty big risk, people are going to start to ask, you know, do we want somebody who's on the edge?
Alright, did it seem to you like this whole Mueller investigation sort of evolved into a Dilbert cartoon?
Did Mueller not turn into the pointy-ear boss?
Is that my imagination?
Maybe I see everything through that filter.
But it seemed like one of these situations where the boss knew the least about what was going on, which is a Dilbert comic strip.
Do you think that I will get a Dilbert comic strip or two out of the Mueller report?
Yeah. Yes, I will.
I will, because it's a perfect, you know, big organization problem where the employees are trying to manage the boss, and the boss...
A lot of you in the comments are saying that Pelosi is drunk.
I'm not saying that, but I will say it sounds like it.
It sounds like the slurring of somebody who's had too much to drink.
I doubt that's what's going on.
But it's the look.
And since there are politicians on the national stage, the look matters.
You know, it's not nice to talk about those things, but it's important.
All right. Let's talk about Boris Johnson, new Prime Minister in the UK. He apparently gave a speech in which he said that the UK is heading toward...
Wait for it. A golden age.
A golden age.
Where do you get that?
That's a great phrase.
So I've been saying that the U.S. is heading for a golden age.
But the U.K. got their own version of a Donald Trump and he said it explicitly.
Time for the golden age.
I don't know exactly what he was talking about, but I can imagine.
Now... So it's good to know that at least the UK is thinking in those terms.
Now here's a question for you.
Given that I believe the UK was somehow involved with the whole Steele dossier situation because Christopher Steele was an ex-spy and are there really ex-spys?
Can you really be an ex-spy?
I'm not sure that's even a thing.
But what would happen if Boris Johnson decided to Maybe open the lid on whatever it is that the UK knows about this whole situation.
I don't know that he will.
Probably would be bad for the UK. But on the other hand, he might say, you know, the new broom sweeps clean.
And he might say, you know, I'd like to improve relationships with the United States.
He might say it's a golden age.
He might say, let's get right with the United States.
And let's tell them what we know.
And maybe we'll find out some things about the UK that we didn't know before.
Maybe. I think the odds of it are pretty low.
Because ultimately they have to do what's good for the UK. We wouldn't want them to act any differently because that would be a weird world if everybody acted against their own best interests.
But I would put it out there that there's a non-zero chance that Boris Johnson will surprise us with some information about maybe what the UK knew and when and who was involved with Christopher Steele.
All right. There's a cryptic report that Epstein was injured in his jail cell.
No information about that as to whether it was an attempted suicide or a beating.
But wasn't Epstein in his own cell?
Was Epstein with the regular population?
Because if Epstein was with the regular population, well, you'd expect him to get beaten.
So what's up with that?
Why would they do that?
So if he attempted suicide, was this part of a plan?
I don't know. But it's certainly interesting.
I would say slightly more chance of it being self-inflicted, only because I can't imagine they put him with the general population.
That would be my guess.
Alright. The new CEO move.
Yeah, Boris Johnson will probably do the new CEO move that I describe as the first things you do when you gain power, when you take the job as a CEO, for example.
The first things you do are what people will know about you as your brand.
So if Boris Johnson does something surprising that's on brand for him and it's the thing that he wants you to know him by, don't be surprised if he acts quickly to do something that sticks in your mind and tells you who he is.
If he's smart, and I believe he is.
Epstein might get the UK involved.
There's a connection there?
Maybe. Yeah, so, Epstein might have the keys to the kingdom, meaning that Epstein might have a lot of people's secrets.
If Epstein were in jail, and any of those super important people who allegedly are at risk because Epstein is alive, if those people wanted to kill him when he was in jail, How hard would it be?
Probably wouldn't be that hard.
One way you could kill Epstein if you were in jail...
I'm not suggesting this, by the way.
I'm just speculating.
They could have slipped him something to kill himself.
For example, they might have said to themselves, you know, this guy's probably going to have some suicidal thoughts.
If somebody gave him a bag of opioids, One of these nights, he's going to down that bag.
He's going to have a bad night, and he's just going to take care of it himself.
So one way to do it would be just make sure a guard slipped him a bag.
The other way to do it is to have the guards let him into the general population, and that probably would take care of himself.
So maybe that's what happened.
So one possibility is that someone is trying to kill Epstein.
Compare that to maybe he just wanted to do it himself because he's going to go to jail for life.
Those are both good theories, and I would not say one of them is more likely than the other at this point.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So what else is going on?
It seems like those are the only fun stories.
But let's talk about the bigger picture of Mueller.
I have to ask myself, what happens to Democrats' mental health now?
And I say that not jokingly, even though everything we talk about is sort of fun.
Completely seriously, imagine if you had been a Democrat and you had had this belief about the Mueller investigation, that it was competent, it was being run by serious, capable professionals, For all the right reasons, and that it would produce a result that would clearly get rid of this monster you believe is President Trump.
And you've been living with that belief, a solid belief for however two years or whatever.
What happens to your mental health when you find out none of that was true?
That there was not really a real investigation because the Steele dossier thing was just ignored.
I'm not sure you could call that a real investigation.
There were real stuff that happened and there were real professionals who did real things.
But I don't know that you even got anything that was an investigation.
And then when it was done, he comes up with this cryptic, we're not exonerating you for the president.
Guess what? He also didn't exonerate me.
Because that's not his job either.
Do you know how else he didn't exonerate his dog?
Mueller did not exonerate his own dog from being a murderer.
Because that's not his job.
He doesn't exonerate dogs.
He doesn't exonerate anybody.
He's not an exonerator.
So for him to say in his report, I'm not exonerating anybody, when in fact his job is never to exonerate.
It's nobody's job.
Was that doing a good job?
It's not. No.
When you put that phrase, we're not exonerating the president, in your report, you can't be taken seriously.
Because that is just a political statement.
It is meant for a political audience.
And it's the opposite of what he was supposed to be doing.
He was supposed to be helping the country heal, or at least get to the facts.
Didn't do it. Didn't do it.
Now, if you had been taken and so badly abused by your own media sources, what would you say about them after going through this experience?
Would you say to yourself, well, they only got one wrong?
Because, you know, if you counted it that way, you'd say, well, that's one topic, the Mueller report.
They got one wrong. But it wasn't just one.
It was wall-to-wall coverage.
It was the main thing.
And then when you look at things like the fine people hoax, you know, the idea that the president called neo-Nazis fine people, when you can just look at the video and see that he said they should be condemned totally, the opposite of how it's reported.
If you're a Democrat and that's the only thing you saw, you'd say, I'll just still believe the thing I believed before I saw the facts.
Because the little stuff, you can sort of just act like it didn't happen.
You know, our brains are good at just ignoring any evidence that goes against what we believe.
But this Mueller thing is so big.
It's so big.
And what the anti-Trumpers believed about it was so wrong that they must have at some point a track record Of being completely wrong about who would get the nomination to be Republican, completely wrong about Trump winning,
completely wrong about what would happen if he did win, completely wrong about the economy, completely wrong about his success overseas, completely and thoroughly wrong about everything important.
That's their life.
Completely wrong about everything.
And now this Mueller report comes out.
The thing that they had hoped would be the thing that saved them from all of the other wrongness.
Think about this.
Had they been wrong about Trump getting elected and all the other stuff, had they been wrong about that, but...
If Mueller had come in and said, oh, you weren't really wrong, it's only because the Russians got him elected and he's a bad seed, just like you always thought.
So it turns out that although he didn't predict events very well, You were still right about the big story.
So the Mueller report gave the anti-Trumpers at least the hope that even though they had guessed wrong about outcomes, who would win, what would happen with the economy and that sort of thing, that they'd still be right in the big picture.
That Trump was a big Russian colluding monster and that's the only reason he got elected.
If that could be right, if there was a world in which that were true, Then they were not insane for the last three years.
That's a pretty big deal.
Mueller was their last hope to tell themselves they hadn't been insane for three years.
I'm not exaggerating.
Mueller was their last hope to learn about their own mental health and find out if they had been good.
Or had they been actually mentally distressed and crazy for three years?
And what Mueller told them, unambiguously, was they had been crazy for three years and wrong about everything for three years and didn't know it.
It was their last little hope.
When you hear Phil Mudd say, Democrats should just shut up about the Mueller report now and focus on health care, That tells you that all of the other stuff were lies, or hoaxes, or just wrong.
He's not even saying, Phil Mudd is not even saying, and we better talk about the economy.
Because the economy is doing well.
Phil Mudd is not saying, yeah, we better get somebody else in here because there might be a nuclear war.
Has there ever been a president who took us further from the risk of nuclear war than this president?
Never. No president has ever gotten you further from nuclear war than this one.
And even his opponents know that.
So there's nothing left but health care.
And the news this morning is that the administration is floating some plans to drastically cut the prices that at least the government pays for pharmaceuticals.
So I think there might be some cracks In the two-movie situation, most people, probably 80% of all the people who are anti-Trumpers, will find some tortured way to maintain their hatred against all evidence.
They'll find something that they can hold on to.
But I'll tell you, when it became clear that Omar and Tlaib were essentially just racists and are racists.
That certainly takes a bite out of your hatred for the president, doesn't it?
When you find out that the people on your side are unambiguously racist.
And, guess what?
From now until Election Day, I'm going to be calling them racist every time they tweet out something.
At least that's on that topic.
But the old videos of interviews with Omar, the tweets that both Tlaib and Omar have made, are just clearly racist.
There's no question about it.
So we'll label it.
And once people realize that all of these topics sound a little bit racist, if you're talking about them, people are going to realize that...
Sorry, I don't know that.
Sorry, my technology's talking to me.
So I think you're going to find that there may be a solid chunk of Democrats who just say, oh my goodness, I was taken.
This is so embarrassing.
At what point do Democrats just feel embarrassed?
I don't even know if that's a thing.
Let me make another prediction for you.
Are you ready? AOC, who can be a bit racist herself, AOC is going to soon learn That her brand, AOC's brand, is being diminished substantially by Omar and maybe Tlaib.
Tlaib? I always pronounce her name wrong.
I believe that AOC will someday in the future, might not be this year, but AOC will find some distance between herself and Omar in particular.
I think she's going to need some distance because for her own benefit, The average of her brand is being lowered.
AOC by herself is pretty powerful.
AOC plus Omar plus Tlaib is a C+. So she has allowed herself to have her average taken down from...
Again, you don't have to agree with her policies.
This is not the point of this.
But in terms of effectiveness...
She's sort of an A-plus for effectiveness.
But when she's put into the squad, which the Republicans are happy to do, Presley sort of disappears.
I would say she's not important to the conversation.
She's just part of the squad.
But Omar and Tlaib, somebody's helping me with the pronunciation here, They're so bad for AOC's brand that I think she's probably gonna create some distance eventually.
She'll be forced to do that for her own benefit.
So that's what I see.
I have pinned the slaughter meter at 300%.
So the odds of a Trump re-election slaughter is essentially guaranteed if nothing changed.
But something might change.
Oh, by the way, there's a news report that, of all things, what a weird coincidence, that Mike Lindell, the MyPillow guy, might consider running for Omar's seat.
Can you imagine if Mike Lindell, the MyPillow guy, if he ran against Omar?
Could that be any better?
Come on. That would be...
Just the best thing ever from an entertainment perspective.
First of all, he'd probably win.
Because as I've noted, he really knows how to do this stuff.
As a public communicator, he's...
He's one of the best you'll ever see.
So he could actually just walk into politics and make a mark.
Very few people could do that.
But he could walk into a political situation for Congress.
Maybe not a senator, maybe not president, maybe not right away.
But for Congress, he could walk into any district.
And I think he'd be the frontrunner pretty quickly.
What are my thoughts on Dan Crenshaw?
Somebody's saying, very similar to what the President thinks of Dan Crenshaw.
Crenshaw has a very, very strong game, both politically and, say, charisma-wise and social media-wise.
So Crenshaw has the tools that President Trump has without some of the rough edges.
So he's got a little more, probably a lot more credibility.
Because he's got the military service behind him, wounded veteran.
But he's also got the full game.
So he's got the communication skills.
He's got the persuasion.
He's got the social media.
He's got the risk management.
He looks like he's got a full toolbox.
That's my guess.
So I would say that Crenshaw takes a little bit more seasoning.
And then I would hate to run against him for president.
Can you imagine some poor bastard will someday, I don't know when, probably not in the next cycle or two, but some poor bastard is going to have to run for president against Crenshaw.
I would place my bet already, and I don't even know who he'll be running against.
I would say the odds of him running for president are very high, someday.
And whoever's running against them, you can just place your bet today.
It's like, you don't even need to know the other name.
You know, strongest candidate in the world on the Democrats.
Don't even tell me the name.
Because I'll tell you, Crenshaw would win that.
All right. The eye patch is good branding.
It kind of is. Yeah.
Yep, it kind of is.
It's weird that Crenshaw could turn that into a positive, but he did.
He did. Oh, somebody says Crenshaw was born in the UK. Is that true?
What? I'd like to hear more about that.
I don't know if that's true. Barr reinstated the federal death penalty this morning.
Really? For what?
I've got to look at that while you're still here.
Hold on. Federal death penalty.
That would probably be on Fox.
The reason I'm looking is I want to see if it has to do with...
I don't see it yet on the top pages.
So we'll wait on that.
The eye hurt his perception.
That's a weird question Alright, I think we've said What we need to say I've got more followers than usual, but I have less to say.
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