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Roosh Hour #56 - Black Friday Call-In Special

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	Hello, welcome to.
	I don't know if this is going to be Ruch Hour 56 or just like a throwaway stream.
	If I get some good, some good questions, it'll be Ruch Hour 56.
	All right, so the number to call in.
	Let me get mine going.
	There it is.
	There's the call-in number.
	We had a few people that are on hold now.
	All right, so I forgot to chill my coconut juice, so I have to use a glass with ice today.
	All right, so I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving.
	I think I have a hangover from the food.
	And the funny thing is, I don't even like turkey.
	i haven't met a single person who said that they like that they like turkey but we have to participate in the thanksgiving psyop okay and i don't have any news to share No outline.
	We're just going to take calls.
	So whatever you want to talk about, I don't have any topics that are off limits.
	So this stream is your stream, whatever you want to speak about.
	So if you're not in the United States for the international dial-in numbers are in the description box below.
	All right, let's get started to get our first caller for how to use this.
	I haven't used this in a while.
	This caller.
	All right.
	Hello, Colla.
	You're now live.
	Can you hear me, Roosh?
	Yes, I can.
	Oh, okay.
	Happy belated Thanksgiving.
	Thank you very much.
	And where are you calling from?
	Huntsville, Alabama.
	Alabama?
	No way.
	I love Alabama.
	Yes, I heard you were just south of us.
	Yeah, I was in Montgomery for about a month, which other Alabamans tell me that is not the best city in the state.
	But when you're from Washington, D.C., it's an improvement, actually.
	I just got a question or two for you before I pass along.
	You once said a long time a while ago concerning game.
	You said no one should learn it because it just opens you up to too much potential for a sin.
	Do you still hold that?
	You know, it really now it's getting to the point where what do we define game as?
	Do we define game as basic mass masculinity, you know, more aligned with your God-given masculinity?
	Or do we, or is game the tricks and the secular knowledge and tips on how to manage a woman who is far from God?
	So which so when you're defining game as what I used to define it as is you know how to get lay tips, then yeah, you don't need that at all.
	In fact, you should stay as far away from it as possible.
	But if we're defining game as the basic skills that a man should have, the basic confidence, basic knowledge of the true nature of women, then yeah, I mean, that's nothing bad to have.
	You can gain that knowledge in a book or so on and then start to apply it when you start to consider women for marriage.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Because I always kind of struggle in that regards to the autism.
	And some guy in chat called me out like three words.
	And so talks to him.
	Second question is, I know people in some of the forums were saying that they were sad that Armenia lost their recent war to Azerbaijan.
	But there is a silver line to this from what I've heard in that the current government is just completely Soros run.
	It's just run by a bunch of his cronies.
	So hopefully now the people of Armenia can kick out the Soros and people like him so that a real legitimate government can arise.
	Yeah, for those who are listening who don't know, the Armenians had a Soros puppet as a prime minister, and he got them involved in a pretty disastrous military conflict that caused Armenia to lose land.
	But, you know, I think that argument is used in the United States to some extent of, okay, well, this really bad thing happening is finally going to wake people up.
	I'm not too optimistic that that line of argument works.
	Unfortunately, we have to accept that some people stay asleep.
	Some people, no matter what you throw at them, no matter what shock or cultural problem, transgender kids or what have you, they don't wake up.
	So I'm not optimistic that saying, well, a horrible thing happened.
	We lost in war.
	3,000 Armenians died.
	And yeah, that's going to help.
	I don't, hopefully, hopefully, I hope you're right.
	But if we look at our country as an example, it doesn't seem to work.
	It doesn't seem to work.
	Up to this point, we're in November 2020.
	You logically would conclude that the whole country should be awake right now, 100% of people, based on all the lies.
	But unfortunately, it seems we're just straight down the middle like we've always been, 50-50, about approximately, or maybe you can say the side of good is 51%, slightly above.
	But it seems like those who want to be asleep, no matter what happens, stay asleep.
	But I like to think that the Armenian people will see the folly of what their prime minister has done.
	All right.
	Thanks, Rogers.
	That's all I have in mind.
	Take care.
	Can I ask you one thing?
	Sure.
	I just want to ask you, what is the sentiment in Alabama right now based on how the election is going?
	Have you talked to people?
	Oh, yeah.
	So I've talked to people both inside and outside of Alabama.
	I got family here and in Tennessee.
	Everyone's under the general impression that it was kind of stolen and Trump's going to try and win it through the courts.
	Okay.
	And is there some kind of, I mean, I don't want you to say what people plan on doing, but is there some kind of simmering anger that we can't allow this or we can't allow them to keep on doing this?
	Because I know from the men I've talked to in Alabama, some of them have been ready to go for a long time.
	They've been ready to fight.
	And you can define that however you want, but they've been ready to fight since like the 90s.
	So, I mean, are they, is there something like, you know, we are ready or is it we're going to wait and see?
	The older people, the boomers, you know, they're just full-blown on retirement, happy.
	But the younger people, I mean, we don't have much.
	I mean, we're still living, you know, either in just small apartments or just shacks or in our or with our parents.
	We want blood.
	Okay.
	And we'll leave it at that.
	But I can just say from my experience, the men in Alabama seem to be more eager to preserve their heritage, I guess you can say, than people in other states.
	So great caller.
	Thank you very much.
	God bless.
	Okay.
	Bye-bye.
	All right.
	Let me disconnect him.
	Okay, we got some more callers here.
	Nothing much more I wanted to add that there, except God bless Alabama.
	It's the most American place I've ever been inside America.
	Not the whitest, but something that I think is representative of how America used to be.
	All right, next caller.
	Hello, caller.
	You're now live.
	Hey.
	Hey, Roche, how's it going?
	What's going on?
	And where are you calling from?
	I'm calling from Virginia.
	I just moved here a few weeks ago from a metropolitan area of California.
	Okay, so basically you made a lateral move of Blue State to a Blue State.
	Yeah, it's a little bit more conservative.
	There's a lot of, what's the word, Dixie flags everywhere here where I am.
	What is weird is that there are parts of Virginia that are more south than the South.
	And that's hard to understand.
	But when you're driving up, especially the Southwestern parts of it, man, that place is really south.
	And then the closer you get to D.C., it becomes really gay.
	So it's such a difference within the same state, more so than I've seen in a lot of places.
	I mean, usually you're in a metro area and you go a couple hours out, you're going to get more of the conservativeness.
	But I myself am looking at Virginia as well.
	So I'm looking at the Shenandoah parts of it.
	So you don't have to say where.
	It's driving by Shenandoah.
	Oh, okay.
	So, well, if I move there, you'll be my neighbor.
	So good.
	You know, the most startling difference is, you know, coming from a pretty big city in California, it's not just the billboards and all the gay ads and all the shit like that that's everywhere.
	It's the differences really are more in how people live their lives, you know, like the way people order food, for example, in California is very different.
	Everything's about collecting an experience, you know.
	Whereas here, it's more about, I would say, friendships that people build and sort of a slow build-up to having a proper life.
	Yeah, and I can tell you that the liberals on the East Coast are different than the liberals on the West Coast.
	You liberals on the West Coast, they take it really far.
	They take it all the way.
	They are total freaks there.
	On the East Coast, yes, we have the freaks too, but it's a little bit more tame, a little bit.
	You know, it's changing.
	Have you been to the city of Harrisonburg?
	Not yet.
	So that's like a little blue city in the middle of a sea of red.
	I was there a couple of weeks ago.
	I was kind of shocked.
	I mean, it is multicultural, super duper.
	But then you go like 10 minutes out and it's super white.
	So I don't know.
	But I'm trying to get a handle because I think Virginia, for me, may be a better place to live in than West Virginia.
	I think in West Virginia, there would be some problems.
	I would be isolated.
	So this is why the area that you're in now, I'm actually thinking of moving there.
	It is funny how the various races will congregate to their own little neighborhoods, even in a rural area like here.
	Anyway, I just wanted to ask you a quick question.
	I thought it helped inaugurate your first call-in stream with something easy.
	And that's what are your top three favorite books in the Bible and why?
	That's not easy.
	I would say, well, the book of John.
	With the other Gospels, I think Matthew and Luke are kind of a toss-up.
	I would go with Luke.
	I would say Luke, John.
	Then I'm going to have to pick an epistle that really speaks to me.
	I would say Romans, even though it's hard to understand at first, it spoke to me because describe how when you lived in sin and you never thought that you would become a force of good, and then everything just changed.
	So I think that kind of described how I changed practically overnight.
	So to answer you, I'll go John, Luke, and Romans.
	Great.
	Thank you.
	You have a nice day.
	Okay.
	Bye-bye.
	That was easy.
	Yeah, so I guess even though Virginia is a blue state, technically, it's not totally paused out.
	And even the pause portions are not the California SJW freaks.
	It's more of the Indians and the Asians just thinking that they'll be good people if they vote Democrat because the Democrats allowed them to immigrate here in the first place.
	But you do see a portion of the immigrants who do vote Trump.
	I think my parents are a good example.
	It wasn't supposed to happen that my Middle Eastern immigrant parents would vote Republican, but for the old guard immigrants, yeah, things got bad to the point where they want some law and order and stability that the Democrats don't really give.
	Okay, let's take a next call.
	Hello, Caller.
	You're now live.
	Hello?
	Yes.
	Hello?
	Yes, I can.
	Hey, Rouge, thanks a lot for doing this.
	Sure.
	And where are you calling from?
	I'm from not far where you are from in Maryland, in the Richest County.
	Sorry to hear that.
	Yes, yes.
	So how are you coping?
	How are you coping with living in basically this federal government containment zone where compliance to the fake plague is perhaps the highest in the entire country?
	Yeah, not very well.
	There's been a lot of confrontations similar to you inside stores and just outside.
	For people who don't know, when I don't wear a mask in the stores, I get yelled at, not by employees, but other customers.
	And the yelling can be pretty intense.
	So, has that happened to you?
	Can you share one example?
	You know, there are a couple examples inside stores, but I mean, the funniest one was I was in Bethesda, downtown Bethesda, walking down the street a couple weeks ago in the evening, about 6 p.m.
	And someone, I was walking by myself, and a man passes me by and then turns around and says, You need to wear a mask.
	And I was like, No, not when I'm outside by myself, walking down the street.
	And he's like, Well, you should have a you should wear a sign that says I'm an a-hole.
	And, you know, I just told him, keep walking.
	And he was, he was an older boomer man, and, you know, he didn't.
	I'm not a big guy, but he can't, he didn't want to get in a fight.
	You know, I think that a lot of people think that they can, you know, they feel like, yes, I can correct this person, but then when they actually do it and then they get some backlash, they get scared.
	I think that people don't expect people to stand up for themselves.
	What gets me is that a lot of the yelling at me have been by women, like women who weren't big and strong.
	And like, what are you doing yelling at a grown man in approaching a threatening manner?
	Like, has anyone told you?
	I mean, I'm guessing these types of women have been raised that men and women are equal and so on.
	But I mean, this is dangerous.
	And I'm not a danger.
	I don't fight and I don't get violent.
	But they're going to one day yell at the wrong guy.
	But one tip I can give you is that when my beard was really long, no one really talked to me.
	But then when I trimmed all that off and it was looking like a five o'clock shadow, I got yelled at more.
	So one tip is to look like a scary dude.
	That's why I'm growing my beard out for non-compliance.
	That's really good advice because I do not have a long beard.
	I'm a bit younger than you.
	I look like a teenager.
	So a lot of people think that they, you know, I'm just a dumb kid.
	But I always bring around the actual Maryland documentation and I have it highlighted.
	When I pull that out and say, do you want to argue about what the actual so-called law is, they, you know, they back off a little.
	You know, and hey, that's good if they back off.
	My experience is that people don't want a conversation where the potential is they'll change their mind.
	I find that not to be the case.
	But hey, you know, it's hard because for guys like us, it's hard for us to live a lie.
	And if you're like me, I don't believe the mask is effective at keeping out the virus.
	I think it probably makes things worse because you're carrying around this soiled garment that it's not like you're washing it constantly.
	So, you know, how far can we go?
	I can tell you when I go to a supermarket, usually I wear the mask starting off until I start seeing employees with it under their nose.
	And I'm like, you know, I'm not going to do it if they're not.
	But sometimes I'm in a mood also, and I don't want to, I want to make it clear that I don't abide.
	So I don't.
	But if I'm in a bad mood, I don't want to talk to anyone, I put it on.
	So I become a flex mascotarian, you know, trying to see.
	But it kind of sucks because you know it's not going to go away.
	They're not going to just say one day, okay, slaves, you're free now.
	What I feel bad for, I'm sure, you know, going to the store and wearing it for half an hour a week isn't a big deal.
	But for people who have to work with the mask all day long, I've heard stories and I feel really bad for them.
	This is why I haven't complained about the mask as much lately.
	I agree.
	The sad thing is, and just quickly, just the sad thing is it's that it's actually easier to go to a big chain store, not wear a mask, because you can call the corporate hotline and, you know, they will tell you that you can you you you are if if you say you have a health exemption, they will honor it.
	It's easier to go to a chain store and be maskless versus going to like an independent mom and pop store, which are being hurt the most because they don't have that kind of corporate, the corporate lawyers aren't, you know, no one's told them anything.
	So they they're I think that the mom and pop stores are a lot more harsh.
	And I kind of feel bad for them too because they are scared.
	They're scared of the health department.
	So I'm more likely to comply there.
	But with the corporations, thing is, they implemented mask rules before the government did.
	So they're not on our side.
	But I find with them, just if you wear it getting in, once you're in, just like an immigrant in a country, it's hard to get you out.
	You know, once you're in, it's easier to keep you out.
	It's easier to block the door and say you can't come in.
	But once I'm in, what are you going to do?
	Are you going to physically remove me from the store?
	No.
	Are you going to call the cops on me?
	No.
	Okay.
	So why are you bothering me?
	So, you know, I still am trying to find the best way to approach it, but I think some level of compliance we're going to have to do just to keep our sanity or else we have to brace ourselves every time we go out, which does get a bit tough.
	Agreed.
	Yeah.
	Did you want to ask me?
	Can I ask you a couple questions?
	Yeah.
	I started following a couple years ago, right as you're starting your conversion into Christianity, and then you chose Orthodox Christianity.
	And that was around the same time I started watching Jay Dyer videos as well.
	And I'm sure he inspired you a little bit.
	And there are a couple other people on Twitter, so-called ortho-bros.
	So it's really interesting.
	I'm basically grew up in an agnostic household.
	I'm a lifelong agnostic.
	But what would you say to somebody who lives in an area, your area or areas similar to yours?
	Someone who's interested in inquiring into the Orthodox Church and visiting and checking it out.
	But that person is an staunch anti-masker.
	And it seems like all of the local Orthodox church are very pro mask mandates.
	You know, and I think I found out that it's a church that generally in many parts of the country, the priests don't like masks at all.
	That same church in D.C. is strongly pro-masks.
	So it's really the D.C. is the problem.
	It's not necessarily the churches.
	I think you're going to encounter that in most of the cities.
	It's just like a city thing.
	Compliance is a lot higher.
	And also, you get faith among the parishioners that are generally lower.
	You don't move to Washington, D.C. from your own country because you're looking for God.
	You move to Washington, D.C. because you're looking for money, comfort, power, especially power, which a lot of people they move here for.
	So what do you do?
	You know, this is tough.
	This is something that I'm grappling with because in my church, so I'm in the Armenian Orthodox Church.
	Unfortunately, in D.C., the mask, people who choose to wear the mask is very high.
	I mean, I have a good friend there.
	We were there on Sunday, and I looked around.
	Believe it or not, in the entire church, there was maybe 50 people.
	I was the only one who didn't have a mask on.
	The only one.
	And I looked at my friend, he put it on because the usher, who we know, told him to put it on.
	Anyway, it's a long thing, but I looked at him and I said, bro, I think I feel like I'm in a Walmart.
	You know, that's how high compliance was in the church when the enforcement was not strong, you know.
	So unfortunately, in D.C., you look at, I looked at the live stream of the Russian Orthodox Church.
	Now, the Russian Orthodox Church is based, but even their parish in D.C. is strongly pro-masked too.
	But the good news is this, if you go a little bit outside of D.C. in the suburbs, and if you're willing to drive even further out, now that mass compliance goes lower and lower and lower.
	So you have, for example, a Russian Orthodox, a small one in Beltsville.
	I've not been there, but I would imagine their mass compliance is not very high.
	And I think you have another one the south of D.C. too.
	So if you're willing to drive up to one hour, you shouldn't have any problem.
	And I know there is an Antiochian church in Bethesda or Rockville.
	I haven't been there.
	So you don't have to, I mean, if I were you, I would shop around.
	I would shop around until you find one that you like, that you can sense from the priest that he knows this is a lie.
	But at the same time, they have to comply a bit because you're going to get the Karens in the churches who want to snitch on the church.
	So there is a compromise.
	But unless you go into the countryside, that's the only, and that could be over an hour out of the city.
	If you really wanted that bad, and I think you should, I know a lot of people who drive up to two hours each way to go to a church.
	You go to a church in the countryside, then you shouldn't have much of a problem there.
	Yeah, I mean, I have a friend who's part of a non-denominational church, and they're not even in their church.
	They're on a property out in the country.
	So I haven't heard of any Orthodox churches in this area doing something like that, but I'm sure you're correct.
	I have a second question.
	I watched the video that you, or the, you know, the long speech video you did several months ago.
	And one of the parts you were talking about how you were having that drama where you were being doxed at your parents' house.
	And I think it was your stepmother who is Muslim was praying and that you mentioned that that helped you out in some sort of way.
	What made you decide to go with Christianity and not go with Islam?
	If what if you have family members who are Muslim, what made you decide to do Christianity?
	Was there something that you knew was wrong?
	No, because my mom, she baptized me.
	She took me to the Armenian church and baptized me when I was around eight or nine.
	So for me, when I felt God's grace, me was basically automatic that it was Jesus Christ.
	So I didn't have to debate or go back and forth.
	And now that I know a lot more about Islam, yeah, I could say for certain that I made the right choice.
	Even though it wasn't a choice, I didn't feel.
	It was like an automatic impulse.
	So due to the baptism, I think that was.
	So when you said, I think you referred earlier, why did I choose Orthodoxy?
	Really, it chose me.
	And I know there's some Eastern Orthodox people who are watching, like, well, you're in the wrong church.
	Okay, that's fine.
	But I think, I mean, I was, it was, it chose me, and I just went back to it.
	So I just went back to my own, I went back to my home after leaving it for stupid reasons.
	In terms of Islam, you know, God gives his grace to everyone.
	It's not just Christians, it's Muslims, Buddhists, even Jews.
	You know, God loves all his creatures.
	But the closer you are to him in terms of the faith, in terms of what he revealed to us, in terms of what Christ revealed to us, the closer you are, the more grace you'll feel and the more that God can actually help you.
	So I think if you're too far from God, like you're a Buddhist, maybe you'll get a little bit of default grace just because you're a creature of God, but you're not going to get any, but you're not going to know how to handle the natural gifts God gives you to work on your salvation.
	I mean, the likelihood you'll make a wrong turn is just much higher than, say, someone born in the true faith who actually follows it.
	Yeah.
	It's interesting because I've been reading a book by Seraphim Rose, Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future, and he goes pretty hard against people who are meditating or being Buddhist.
	Yeah, because how many of us threw away the birthright, Christ, to chase after what some Hindu is teaching?
	I mean, even I fell for that too.
	I fell for the Zen Buddhism Tao.
	I fell for what Osho and Alan Watts taught.
	Because we have this temptation that nothing in my backyard could possibly possess the truth.
	I have to go really far.
	So I have to go to a country where they can't even get sanitation and people don't even use toilets.
	But no, they're going to create men who know the truth, right?
	So that's kind of, I think, you know, yoga is common.
	I think everyone in the West goes through their Eastern phase, you know, to think that the Hindus have the answer is that people who believe that the earth, it rests on elephants and then on turtles and believe in multiple gods.
	They're pagans.
	And the fact that we went to them for the truth really shows how deceived we were.
	So like Father Rose, I mean, he, once you get, knock yourself out of that spell, you're like, what was I doing?
	Why was I following Osho who moved to the United States to sleep with groupies?
	Yeah.
	Thank you, Ruchette.
	Thanks for clarifying on that.
	And I also just wanted to say that I just saw that you went to the Stop the Steal rally in D.C.
	And I just want to let you know that, you know, in terms of the whole lockdown in masks, there are a couple groups in Maryland that are doing meetups and defying the lockdown laws.
	And I might have to just send you a private message of some groups.
	But it would be, yeah, I think if you're feeling lonely and tired, there are other people even around here that are meeting up and making a difference.
	Because right now I'm not on top of the group.
	So if you have anything to share, you can definitely get in touch.
	Okay, I'll send you an email.
	Thanks a lot for taking my call.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Have a good night.
	All right.
	So far, all the calls have been normal.
	We haven't had any trolls.
	This plug is really bothering me.
	Sick to the next call.
	Hello, Caller.
	You're now live.
	Hello, Ruth.
	Yes.
	And where are you calling from?
	I am calling from Arlington County, New Jersey.
	Jersey.
	Ooh, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, that sucks.
	Definitely.
	I mean, it's home to me.
	I grew up here all my life, all of it.
	So, I mean, despite a lot of the leftism, it's basically home.
	Why is the property tax there so high?
	Well, I can't really answer that question, and it varies about where you want to live.
	Like, say, for instance, if you live about maybe an hour and 20 minutes away from me, Patterson, New Jersey has some of the highest property tax in the whole country.
	I think they're number one, if I'm not mistaken.
	And then, like I said, you've got to pay other things like tolls.
	You have to pay to get on the highway.
	There's a lot of other hullabaloo that goes into it.
	But if it makes you feel better, the rest of the country is slowly descending too.
	Yeah, but like you said, New Jersey, basically, East Coast liberals are definitely different than West Coast liberals by far.
	Yes.
	It's not as bad here.
	It's like that the winter has kind of keeps out the loony ones, you know, because, oh, cold.
	No, I just want warm, fantasy, sun, weather all year round.
	I think that kind of attracts like a weaker person who's more likely to complain and, you know, cry homophobia and racism and so on.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So what's going on?
	Yeah, I just, well, first off, I'm a huge fan of your work.
	I followed you.
	I found out about you around 2015 when I took a break from college.
	And that's when you were still doing your game and your pickup and everything like that.
	And ever since you transitioned to Christianity, I've just been amazed because who would have guessed you would be an Orthodox Christian?
	I never would have guessed in a million years.
	Yeah, it still surprises a lot of people.
	Yeah.
	So basically, and I also had a thing.
	Now, what made you decide?
	Because I'm saying, you see, the United States has descended in the complete, utter clown world.
	So what made you decide to come back to the United States from, say, when you were living in Europe?
	Because I'm saying, it seems a lot more saner over there than it is over here.
	Well, I was living a fantasy life there.
	I was not living like a man would.
	And as the Bible says, honor thy mother and father and take care of your family as much as you are able to.
	I was kind of, I constructed a fantasy life of money made from sex filth, of living, of using this currency arbitrage to live cheaply just because I happen to come from a country where the currency is stronger.
	I was, you know, going to cafes every day like I was some urbane cosmopolitanite.
	The girls, the temptations were extremely high.
	So basically, to live there was to escape the reality of the cross that I have to bear, which is why did God put me in the United States?
	You know, why did he put me here?
	So I'm going to say, no, I don't want to go here.
	I'm going to create my own life away from the natural order, which is what I did.
	Now, it's possible.
	I can go there today.
	Let's say I go to Poland now.
	All right.
	I have a couple of expat friends.
	There's a cafe where I can eat my croissant without having to wear a mask.
	And my rent is cheaper.
	Okay.
	Is that happiness there?
	Is that eternal life to have a little bit of comfort?
	So I guess what you're asking me is, Rouge, why don't you pursue comfort?
	That's what people, I think, when they ask me, why don't you leave?
	So I'm not here to pursue comfort.
	I'm here to serve God.
	And for me, I think the best place to serve God is where he puts you.
	So he put me in, for better or worse, the Washington, D.C. area.
	My parents are fine right now.
	They don't need me to take care of them, but I want to be within a drive away.
	So that's that.
	You know, I think as a son, I see how when people get old, it becomes difficult.
	If I can help my parents, if they need it, I'm here.
	But if I'm in another country and they get sick and there's a lockdown and they're playing games with who can get on airplanes and not, then I don't know.
	I think that wouldn't make me happy in the long term.
	It's not like, you know, when my sister got sick, I could easily hop on an airplane and come and help her out.
	But how about now?
	How about if I go there now and my mom gets sick and I can't even do that?
	So I don't know.
	I feel like staying a couple hours away from where you're needed.
	And I think that this is it.
	And I'm going to make a go of it here.
	Until, now, maybe you're thinking, when would you leave?
	I would leave if the country was on fire.
	There was zero hope.
	And there's no point ever even thinking you have a country and you would leave with no intention of coming back.
	But for that to happen, we would have to get into what happened to Russia during the communistic times where they were throwing people in camps.
	It could happen here, maybe not in the same way.
	So I don't know what the future holds.
	But right now, where things are, I think I can better serve God, my neighbor, my family here.
	Okay.
	Have you ever considered like, because you said you like Alabama.
	I used to live in Huntsville myself, actually, for a brief period of time.
	So how come are you ever, I know you want to be closer to your family, but have you ever wanted to, say, for instance, you had any state you wanted to live in out of the 50, which one would you choose?
	I would probably pick something in the Midwest just because I don't like weather that's hot and the south is very hot.
	But see, that's kind of, I know, to pick a place on based on the weather, now, how different are we than the people who go move to the west coast?
	You know, now we're chasing after comfort.
	So I don't want a choice because when you give someone a choice, they usually pick the wrong thing.
	I don't want a choice.
	And now I see I'm stuck.
	I have voluntarily tried to say, I'm stuck.
	I can't go anywhere.
	I have to live within two, three hours of my mom and dad.
	And you make a circle of that drive around the Washington, D.C. area that limits you to southern Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, which no way.
	So, you know, but the best state, if you were to force me, I would say South Dakota.
	That seems to be, that seems to be one that's nice and cold and no personal income tax and the governor is based.
	But see, the problem is a state that was good, that is good today, there's no guarantee it's going to be good in a couple years from now.
	I mean, California used to be a conservative state in the 1980s.
	You have Virginia used to be a red state.
	Now it's turning blue.
	North Carolina is on the verge of turning blue.
	So Texas is going to turn blue with all the Californians going there and the Mexicans going there.
	So, I mean, I'm not a prognosticator.
	I can't predict how a state's going to go.
	If I move to a good state today, how about if the Civil War starts there?
	It's like, yeah, it's based, but that's where the federal government attacks because it's so good.
	So really, how do you know that any state or any country is going to be good?
	The truth is that you don't know.
	You're making a guess.
	You're making a guess on very limited information in a way to serve yourself.
	So me, I ask, where does God want me?
	Does he want me in Poland, just sitting in cafes, sipping on coffee?
	Probably not.
	So if you take a position of, I'm going to go in a place where I can serve God, how can you lose?
	How can you lose?
	Even if that place turns out to be the epicenter of hell coming up.
	But the fact that you're serving him means that you're going to get through it.
	So that's how I'm trying to think of it now.
	Okay.
	That was a very good explanation.
	And I had another question.
	Is that okay?
	Here we go.
	Yes.
	In light of what's going on with the United States political, I know you're Orthodox.
	What are your views on, say, representative democracy?
	I think that if Satan were to create a political system, democracy would be it because it really inverts how God rules.
	So God, he is the king.
	He is the monarch.
	And the angels serve him.
	But does God ask the angels to vote on a matter so he can pick what to do?
	No.
	So what we've done with democracy is inverted.
	So now the mob gets to rule.
	People who can barely read, people who don't know the truth if it hit them upside the head, complete atheists, Satanists, which people who practice in witchcraft, they can vote.
	Why can Satanists decide how the government of a country is?
	We have to keep them away.
	So this is why I'm not too confident that the democratic process is going to work.
	And really, if you think about it, people vote based on information.
	I'm voting for this candidate based on the information I have about him.
	But who controls the information?
	Now, who controls the information controls who you get to vote for?
	And once you consider that the candidates are just sponsored by the people who have the most amount of capital and wealth shows you that democracy, it doesn't work.
	And I'm surprised it hasn't collapsed to this point.
	But I think, I mean, we're seeing it now that, I mean, even though as rigged as democracy is, they still couldn't keep that fake charade of voting by the people going with this last election where they had to cheat.
	Okay.
	I mean, I kind of agree with that.
	I mean, to me, the perfect form of government would be either a monarchy or if you are going to have a democracy, you can only vote on issues that directly impact you in some way, shape, or form.
	Or maybe you have to be a certain caliber of citizen in order to vote.
	I mean, you know, pass like a reading test, I think we would eliminate most of the liberal vote.
	Understood.
	Understood.
	Because, I mean, because democracy to me is just too, it's too idealistic.
	It's like communism only instead of economic equality.
	You get other things like racial or gender equality.
	It's basically repackage communism using different methods.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's how I look at it.
	But no, that's all.
	That's all I want to ask you.
	And thank you for answering that question.
	And thank you for having me.
	I greatly appreciate it.
	It's greatly appreciated.
	Great to hear, buddy.
	Thank you.
	Okay, God bless.
	God be with you.
	Bye-bye.
	All right.
	So if you're calling now, you can ask me questions that are difficult.
	That's fine.
	I mean, you don't, this isn't like a cheerleader.
	I'm not screening calls.
	I'm answering calls in the order that they come in.
	Hey, let's go to the next caller.
	Well, caller, you're now live.
	Hello?
	Yes.
	Hey, Roosh.
	Huge fan of yours, longtime listener, first time, excuse me, first-time caller.
	Okay, great.
	And where are you calling?
	I'm calling from Florida.
	Florida.
	I hear that you have a governor who is not down with all this fake plague nonsense.
	Yeah, you'd be right about that.
	And another little fun fact is that in the last Ruch hour that you had, you showed a clip of an interview at a college campus.
	Yes.
	And for people who can't see that, it was a female student saying that if she wants to kill a baby inside her, she's going to kill it because it's her choice.
	Well, that's where I go to school.
	So is that, okay, is that video clip representative, or maybe you can make us feel better and say, no, there's no girls like that.
	She's the only one.
	I would have to say that that's probably about 50 to 70% of the student population.
	So what are you telling us that the student population is lost?
	It depends on the school.
	So, I mean, I'm totally like a fish out of water because I'm a fifth-year music student there, which is like the worst.
	Be a little careful.
	Don't dox yourself.
	No, I won't.
	And I mean, well, anyway, I go to school for music, and I've been doing it long enough.
	Like, I've already worked as a musician now for seven years.
	And, you know, coming to grips with everything that's happening now in the country and realigning my spiritual positions, you know, it's something I've always enjoyed.
	And like to talk about the coronavirus stuff, one of the gigs I take now is at a church.
	And, you know, I look at the program.
	I looked at the program when I first started because there was a lot of people wearing masks.
	And coincidentally, I found a lot of tractor last names under the leadership.
	And there's a lot of female leadership there, too.
	But it's just, it's unfortunate.
	And I would like your commentary on this about the ever-changing landscape, you know, just in the country and like, you know, the shift in leadership when it comes to the church.
	Because the town that I grew up in is nothing like where that school is, you know.
	And maybe if you could just touch on that and like how the leadership in the church has changed.
	So I noticed from a lot of people I talk to that the Protestant churches usually have a very soft male pastor, but the women run everything.
	They run the entire show.
	He almost has to I mean it's like the parish council what the Orthodox Church has which could be women and men but it's like the Protestants have a parish council of the women who are really pushing the church in this liberal direction but the hierarchy is going along with it too.
	So you know I can just tell you that if I walked into a church and it was dominated by women you know I would wonder if God was there because we know that God created Eve from Adam.
	So God created man first men lead.
	Now, of course there is a role for women to help to, you know, give their opinions, but they really shouldn't be making the final call.
	You know, in the Orthodox Church the priest does, the male priest does.
	In the parish council he's not beholden to them, it's the other way around.
	And but you know, this is like a general problem that the Protestant churches have.
	So there's not much you can really do about it.
	I mean, I don't think we're at the point where you can fix that.
	So there's a lot of things now we cannot fix because, as you see in your school, so many people are have gone the wrong way and I think we're at the stage where we have to kind of isolate ourselves from the most damaging parts of the culture or the fake churches and so on, to kind of continue to serve God in a way that we won't be mentally damaged.
	You know, we won't have to make a fight out of everything because really, like I talked to a caller earlier to have to, you know, go out in public and to supermarket and get yelled at for not wearing a mask, you can.
	You can fight that for a couple months, but for the rest of your life that's just going to wear you down, you.
	We have to pick our battles.
	So I don't know if changing a church or changing people's minds is the way to do it.
	Yeah well, as far as the mask is concerned, right now I'm living with my parents.
	You know, outside of that, outside of the town, in a smaller area, and the rules here are pretty lax.
	You know, just going around to different bars and stuff, nobody really wears a mask and if, if there are people, they're a very small fraction of the people that are there and if they have any signs, you know the sign will say a mask is recommended but not required.
	You know and um yeah, I mean it's very lax here and in the city.
	Unfortunately, you know the area where that school is, there's not really a lot of people, but But because it's so multicultural, there's a high amount of compliance, you know, despite having not that many people.
	And there are pockets of Trump supporters, but it's, you know, it's like you're saying it's the same way here that it is in D.C., at least, you know, because I can walk into a neighborhood Walmart in college town with not that many people, but everybody's wearing a mask.
	And I mean, everybody, you know, I stand out when I just pull the thing under my nose.
	And I, you know, I try not to wear it when I can.
	You know, I just don't, it's like you said, I don't, I don't want to have to drive myself insane, like fighting these little battles every day just to go grocery shopping, having to go around the Rosie with the mask.
	But yeah, I mean, when I'm at school, like I never, I always pull it under my nose and nobody ever says anything.
	And, you know, sometimes I even take it off on campus too.
	And, you know, sometimes people wait for that cue so they can do it themselves because they don't want to do it either.
	You know, they've woken up to it.
	It seems like you have a clear path on how to deal with it.
	So I'm not concerned about you.
	But I can say that I believe that the immigrants comply because they're scared of getting kicked back to their hellhole countries.
	Even though the immigrants are legal immigrants, they are legal immigrants.
	I'm not saying illegal.
	They just, I've noticed this.
	They are high compliance.
	You know, it's almost like if you immigrate to another country, you have to think of the mentality of someone doing this.
	I'm leaving my country.
	Why?
	Because you hate it there.
	You don't like it.
	You don't like the culture, the people, the economy.
	There's a lot of things you don't like that you're willing to uproot yourself to the West, to a Western country.
	Well, you're probably going to idolize things of the West, including its medicine and science.
	So when someone in the West, the white man, you know, maybe you tend to idolize, oh, the white man is good.
	You say the white man says wearing a mask all the time at home is going to protect me.
	And you're the immigrant who threw away his own country to come to the West.
	You're probably more inclined to just do whatever he says because you came for this.
	You idolize this.
	So I think that's why we see it.
	But other than that, I haven't seen the critical thinking in the immigrant communities.
	I just don't see it.
	I don't know if it's maybe they just don't have the time to do it because they're, God bless them, they have to work pretty hard for their daily bread and things like that.
	It's not like they can sit in front of live streams all day.
	So I see the what the problem is, and I was, I'm an example, is leaving your own country because it's uncomfortable.
	Who are you going to attract?
	Why did I leave the United States to cavort around the world?
	Because I wanted more comfort, more sexual comfort.
	I wanted women to please me.
	I wanted to feel better.
	So basically, I was doing evil.
	So I left.
	So I was an immigrant and you attract people who leave their countries that are not facing a war for they're leaving for comfort.
	If you're leaving your country for comfort, you are weak.
	You are a weak person because you don't want to carry, pick up and carry your cross.
	I didn't want to pick up and carry my cross in the United States.
	I wanted sex.
	People there, they don't want to pick up and carry their cross in a difficult country.
	They want comfort.
	And so they're uprooting themselves, leaving.
	I don't know if you heard of this show, 90 Day Beyonce.
	It's very popular.
	And it's a show about people in foreign countries who are dating an American person.
	And I'm looking at that show.
	I'm like, that was basically me in a nutshell, getting ready to leave my country just to date up.
	So I kind of see it now.
	So when guys tell me, oh, Rusha, things are getting bad here.
	I'm thinking of leaving.
	Don't stop.
	You are chasing after comfort.
	If you going to another country is to be a missionary or like a priest or you want to join a monastery in a foreign country, then do it because you're serving God.
	But if it's to serve yourself, you're going to leave your country, a place that God put you in, to serve yourself for comfort, just like I did, it was wrong.
	And the only thing that's going to happen is in a couple years, you're going to crap out in that new country because you're going to be just a glorified tourist forever and you're going to come back home.
	Yeah, well, I totally agree with that.
	And I'll end with this.
	I don't want to end with another black pill, but I'll end with a white pill.
	And I'll give you a little anecdote.
	A friend of mine teaches guitar class at a high school.
	And he's been teaching at this high school for six years and has noticed the steady decline intelligence-wise among the student body since he started.
	And it seems like bad news, but in my opinion, it's really a good sign because of exactly what you're talking about.
	You know, there's people that are going to want to leave.
	There's people that are going to want to move, and they're going to be weak, and they are looking for comfort.
	But the people that are staying put and the people that are getting ready to fight, I think every year they're only getting stronger.
	And their supposed enemy, you know, the leftist Liptards and like the other liberals, are only getting dumber and they're only getting weaker.
	So in theory, it's only making for an easier fight.
	Are you saying we are becoming that we're becoming a part of the master race?
	Nice.
	Okay, Colin.
	Maybe not so direct, but one could say that.
	So thank you.
	Okay.
	Thank you for calling.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	Now, I'm going to say something that's going to perhaps upset some of my Armenian brothers and sisters.
	But it has to be said.
	Because this goes on what I've been talking about.
	So, as you know, the recent war in Armenia ended very badly for us.
	About 3,000 soldiers, Armenian soldiers died.
	Even more of their soldiers died.
	But anyway, thanks to the Jewish tech that Israel gave to the Azerbaijanis.
	But anyway, so about 3,000 died.
	There was at church, there was, I guess, a ceremony for the dead.
	It was very sad.
	And I was saddened by the loss of life there.
	Now, I am half Armenian.
	I don't speak the language.
	I've never been there.
	So my connection to the homeland is non-existent currently.
	For other people there, they do have a connection.
	And they were maybe there was a mixture of anger and sadness.
	There was this utmost concern for Armenia, which is what you would expect to improve that country, to fight and so on.
	Now, a thought came in my mind, which I shared with a couple guys there, and they didn't really disagree with me.
	But if you love Armenia so much, why are you in the United States?
	Many Armenians who are in the United States are the best and the brightest.
	They left in the 90s and so on.
	Why are you here?
	Well, I think we know why.
	I already talked about it.
	They're here for the money or the money.
	Armenians financially do very well, very well.
	They're here for the money, the comfort, the Western lifestyle.
	So now, there's nothing wrong to weep for people you lost in the country.
	There's nothing.
	But if you really want to improve Armenia, go back.
	You have very little skin in the game right now.
	You have a life, lifestyle in the United States, in Washington, D.C., most Armenians live in California.
	You are living an easy life compared to what it is there.
	So I'm just saying, if you really want to put up or shut up, go back.
	I did that because I was in Europe going off, oh, U.S. is bad and so on.
	While I was doing what I shouldn't do, I was sleeping around with European girls, sipping on cafe espresso and chocolate croissants.
	Why was I complaining?
	Why was I complaining about the United States?
	I had no skin in the game complaining.
	I wasn't doing anything to make it better.
	So I'm back.
	And hey, now I can complain.
	So I have a right.
	And I'm trying my best.
	I can't wait to move into a place, form a tribe of like-minded men within a certain area, whether it's Virginia or West Virginia, and make an impact, make a positive impact.
	At least for a group of people, for a group of us, we can get through this.
	You know, we can form a community, some bonds, some relationships that help us get through a difficult time.
	But if I go to another country that's more comforting and I complain, oh, USA is bad, why aren't I helping?
	Why aren't I living the problem and being a positive force in a declining country?
	So we have to be a little bit careful.
	It's easy to complain when you have no skin in the game.
	Okay, let's take the next caller.
	Low caller, you're now live.
	Hi, Lucia.
	Hi, Lucia.
	How are you?
	Pretty good.
	And where are you calling from?
	I'm calling from Mexico City.
	I called in, I think, the last one in June or July.
	Okay, exactly one.
	What is going on there?
	Well, actually, the restrictions here in Mexico haven't been too bad.
	But then again, I haven't gone out a lot or really much at all.
	So I'm not really informed too much of the restrictions.
	But it's not that bad as far as I understand it.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah, you know, just one thing I wanted to add.
	I heard, you know, it's when you're in your own country, you don't hear about how bad the restrictions and others are.
	But I recently read an article that Argentina is very bad.
	A lot of these South American countries are bad.
	We all know Australia is bad.
	I know the UK is getting bad.
	So, you know, one thing in the USA, it's not as bad as other countries are.
	So it sounds like Mexico is not as bad easily.
	Yeah, thankfully so.
	You know, Archie, I had an anecdote.
	I wanted to ask you for advice, and I had a question for you.
	That's fine with you.
	Okay, so the anecdote would be, I've only voted once in my life, and it was here in Mexico, right?
	Now, I distinctly recall that I was required, was required to be one of the following things.
	First of all, I think two forms of IV, if not one, I remember exactly.
	And also, fingerprints, right?
	And it was a pretty involved process, believe it or not.
	So when I look at the U.S., and I just think to myself, you know, what an embarrassment that, you know, the supposedly the most grandiose, most important democracy in the world, you know, basically...
	The greatest country in the world.
	Quote, unquote.
	I love the U.S.
	I lived there for many years.
	I love Americans.
	But I mean, the electoral system, it's basically the electoral system in Mexico is less violable.
	It's more reputable than the one in the U.S., which is impressive to me.
	And, you know, being Mexican, I think you sort of know, you can recognize that there's voter fraud.
	If the sort of thing that's happened in the U.S. were to happen here, everybody would have, you know, everybody would be the wiser.
	Everybody would be like, come on, you expect us to believe that?
	Yeah, that's, I guess, my analysis as a Mexican of the American.
	And I can just say that the intention here is to cheat.
	They are so crazy with power, which, you know, politics is that game, that they provide plan Bs for if plan A doesn't work.
	So they create a system where every layer of the system, they have an opportunity to cheat.
	So it's like creating a back door for whatever plan, you know, if it could go wrong.
	Because one thing I noticed in this past election, if the evidence that Trump and his team presented are true, is that they cheated not just in one way, but every conceivable way.
	And even in ways that I'm sure we don't know about.
	From the mail-in ballots to the voting machines to dead people voting to switching votes, on and on.
	So they cheated in every single way.
	So then, of course, you start to think about past elections.
	You start to think of elections for congressmen, senators, and you realize, man, I think we're living a lie.
	I think this whole idea of democracy, which is flawed in itself, we don't even have that.
	We don't even have a flawed idea of government.
	We just have complete rule by those with power.
	They said, this is how it's going to be.
	We have power.
	We're going to win.
	So, you know, whether Trump can prevail or not, I guess we'll see.
	Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
	Now, I guess the piece of advice that I'd like to ask you for, I'm sure you've been asked this many times, but I guess how do you recommend going about looking for godly women, especially now, you know, with the coronavirus where it's hard to get face-to-face contact with people?
	And even going to mass, many people don't want to go to mass.
	They want to, you know, live stream mass or something.
	What are your best recommendations?
	I think a lot of men don't like the advice I have for this question because they are used to practical tips.
	They're used to a self-help culture where you read a book and you learn how to do this or that.
	I wrote many self-help books.
	So my advice is don't seek a godly woman.
	Seek God.
	Seek God as strongly, as fervently as you can.
	And then if he deems it, he will pair you up with a woman while you practice your faith, while you practice your faith in the real world through serving your neighbor, going to church and so on.
	But I don't see how it can work that I am now going to begin looking for a godly woman somewhere.
	I just don't see it.
	I don't see how that's going to work.
	Now, of course, I can give you a practical tip, like go to church.
	But that's still wrong because you don't go to church to find a woman.
	You go to church to serve God, to worship God.
	You know, so anything I tell you is putting the woman first.
	Now, how can I tell?
	So what the answer is, is to deepen your faith.
	That's what the answer is.
	And if God sees that a woman, if he pairs you with this person, both of your salvations will be aided through the pairing.
	Of course, he's going to do it.
	Of course, he is going to do it.
	But if he sees that you can be chaste, that you can make it on your own, then maybe he's not going to give you one.
	Maybe he's going to give another man a woman who is more dependent on having to serve God through a spouse.
	So we don't know.
	We don't know what God has in store for either of us.
	But I just don't buy the idea that you have to look for a woman.
	And I get it.
	A lot of men want to have a family, but then you have to ask yourself, why do you want a family?
	Is it to serve your will or God's will?
	And so again, then guys are going to get, this is when guys start to get upset.
	But God said to be fruitful and multiply.
	So he doesn't read his Bible, doesn't go to church, doesn't really have a working faith, but he can quote a verse which matches the will that he wants to perform.
	So then that's, then I tell them, look, you know, if you're looking for a godly woman, you're not going to find her.
	Where are they?
	Chances are they're already married.
	You know, a godly woman doesn't happen after she's 25 and banged 100 dudes.
	Usually she obeyed her father, went to church and found someone who was in her school at 18, 19, gets married 22 or 23.
	And some of those marriages, they fail too.
	But I mean, it's the kind of woman you are going to meet who is godly is going to be like me, who fell for a lot of tricks in the world, saw the light.
	But then you're going to say, well, she's been with this many guys and I don't know.
	So any way you look at it, if you use your own power or your own intelligence to find it, I don't know how it's going to work.
	I'm sure it's possible, you know, but I can't give you a strategy.
	I can't even give you a tip, like to say, go over here, you know, like I used to do, how to approach girls at the mall and things like that.
	So really, this is a problem of the faith, because if you trust in God and God deems that you're not going to have a wife, will you be upset?
	If you are upset, that means you're still not putting God first.
	For that reason, then, as a follow-up question, do you think many of us should accept the possibility that we won't find a suitable woman to marry?
	Under the conditions of modernity?
	Yeah, I think the way things are going, a lot of us are not going to get married.
	You know, I just think it's the way it is, the period of time that we were born in.
	I think a lot of us, not due to really any fault of our own, other than, I mean, assuming, I mean, our fault is that we didn't serve God early on.
	If currently now our faith is strong and we don't find a woman, you know, if you look outside, you look at the times, I mean, is it really a complete shock?
	You don't know how many conversations I get into men about this.
	In terms of finding a woman who is semi-good, it's very difficult, even in church, even in church.
	Even my church, even there, you know, that's all I'll say about it.
	It's tough.
	So, what I find, the men who are married basically married a woman that they shouldn't have because they didn't have the faith, but through the grace of God, they've both come to God at roughly the same time.
	So, they're on that path.
	So, it's kind of trying to rejigger a person that they shouldn't have been with, but now to serve God through them and to make it work regardless.
	I've seen that a lot, but it's not very common that she was a virgin and everything was perfect.
	Her faith, we would go pray in church on Saturday night.
	I mean, I haven't really found that.
	But it's usually men or men who accidentally impregnate their girlfriends.
	That's how guys are getting married now.
	Okay, well, yeah, it is tough to accept that, but I guess it's a reality that we face, and God put us in these times.
	And then, the question that I wanted to ask you: if it's controversial or if it's divisive, please feel free not to answer.
	But I guess I'd be curious to see why you're not Catholic.
	Are there specific doctrinal matters that you are not in agreement with?
	Or I guess what's the general reason?
	Why am I not Catholic?
	But you're making it seem like being Catholic should be the, well, maybe in your opinion, it is, but it should be the default choice.
	Like, this is it, right?
	So, you are saying, so you are implying that the Catholic Church is the one holy Catholic and apostolic church, right?
	I do believe that, but I understand, yes.
	I am obviously, uh, I guess, biased, yeah.
	No, and that's that's fine.
	A lot of Catholics ask me that too.
	And my answer is that I think that the that the Orthodox faith is has been resisting the secular world more effectively than the Catholic Church has.
	I think there are less church problems with the Catholics.
	And I'm not even talking about the doctrines.
	That can be like another topic.
	But just say, excluding the doctrines, let's assume the doctrines are exactly the same.
	Excluding that, the church itself, the Catholic Church, seems to be succumbing to secular problems.
	Would you say I'm wrong about that or would you agree?
	I am unfortunately in complete agreement.
	So now, if you're Catholic, I'm not saying to leave your church because it has these kinds of problems, but for me to convert to a church that is working through some things, a lot of things, it doesn't, you know, I just want to worship God in a church that is really close to him.
	I don't want to deal with church problems.
	I may have to at some point, but I just want to worship God.
	And it seems like the Catholic Church has a lot of things to work through.
	And really, your Pope, I don't think I, I don't see him as a fan.
	You know, I don't see him as, I guess, sound spiritual guide that I can look to in my walk with Christ.
	Maybe if you get, okay, how about this?
	If you get a new pope and he's good, then you can call, call back, and you can ask that again.
	Deal, Roosh, deal.
	I'll hold you to that.
	Okay.
	Perfect.
	Well, thank you very much, Roosh.
	You have a great day.
	God bless.
	Thank you.
	Bye-bye now.
	All right.
	So I have to apologize that the wait is very long.
	It's like going on like an hour.
	So you're not willing to wait an hour on the phone, then you can leave a super chat.
	Let me see.
	Actually, am I accepting super chats?
	Yes.
	So I am accepting super chats.
	I'm going to ask those in the end.
	So excuse me, answer those in the end.
	All right, let's get another.
	So I'm just going to go as fast as I can.
	But now, since the caller has been waiting for an hour, you know, I do want to say a few words to them to make their wait worth it.
	So I don't want to be very quick.
	Tell me your question.
	All right.
	Goodbye.
	You know, kind of like what they do on the radio shows.
	Well, caller, you're now live.
	Hi, Roosh.
	How's it going?
	And where are you calling from?
	It's going great.
	I'm calling from, well, it's going great, all things considered.
	I'm calling from Montana, the state of Montana.
	Montana, nice.
	How is it there?
	Well, I think it probably depends where in Montana.
	I mean, there are very, there are, for the most part, it's pretty red, but there are a few blue counties sprinkled throughout.
	And right now I'm currently living on a college campus, but I'm not going to say which.
	Sure, sure.
	I hear that a lot of Californians are coming there now because it's so great.
	That is, yep, that is what we keep hearing.
	I mean, I am from California, but I'm only in Montana for school.
	But I'm based, so I don't count as a parasite.
	I'm getting like an America First vibe from you, like a Groiper vibe.
	Oh, well, maybe that's just because I sound a little bit younger.
	But yeah, I would say the America First Agenda, I guess I kind of support that.
	But before I'm America First, I'm Orthodox.
	And like yourself, I was born into the Orthodox Church.
	And then once the lockdown started at the very beginning, you kind of, I feel a lot of young people who had a semblance or a little bit, a spark of faith, they kind of were presented with a choice of, well, death is really right next door, or at least that's so we thought at that time.
	And you kind of had to ask yourself, well, do I take this seriously?
	You know, I say I'm a Christian.
	I say that I'm a conservative, whatever you think it is.
	And then am I going to be really about it or am I just going to talk about it?
	And I chose to be about it.
	And that's when I started my prayer rule.
	It's when I found you, actually, and I felt like to kind of relate to you on that level, where we kind of came back to the Orthodox Church.
	So you are, okay, so your politics is good.
	You are in the Orthodox Church at a young age.
	I prophesy you're going to be a senator someday, young man.
	You know, I do.
	Sometimes people will tell me that, whether they're close to me and I talk about politics or whatever it is.
	And then, and when I catch myself thinking about that, thinking about a potential political career, it's almost like I feel arrogant.
	And, you know, when I first came back to the faith, I, the first demons, especially young men, have to battle are lust, you know, in fornication, masturbation, pornography, all those demons.
	And then once you maybe finish that battle and you're never completely finished, but once you get over that hill, then pride starts to seep in and it's much more difficult to find.
	Got it, yes.
	Was actually debating whether to give you the senator joke or not because, you know, while I was joking, it's compliments are very dangerous because if you believe in it, then you go down this road of temptation.
	I have remarked many times that I'm very careful with compliments because pride is right behind that door.
	It's ready to come in, ready to flood in.
	So I'm glad that you have an understanding of them.
	Well, thank you very much.
	And I agree with you about the compliments.
	I tend to, I will say, though, it's good to compliment others because I almost feel like you want to see the saint in other people before you look at the saint in yourself.
	And to bring you closer to Christ, you're going to see that other people are assuming, you assume that you give them the benefit of the doubt.
	And when I see people, you know, on a college campus, they make a lot of mistakes.
	They are, you know, a lot of promiscuity, especially you'll see young men, maybe they're falling into that trap of same-sex attraction or whatever it is.
	I feel like it's better to give them almost the benefit of the doubt.
	When you see a young man who's got a lot of makeup on, pants his nails, whatever it is.
	There's men on campus with makeup on?
	Oh, of course.
	That's every college campus now.
	It is?
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Hold on, I graduated from university in 2001.
	I never, now I went to a big public school, 30,000 students, the University of Maryland in College Park.
	I never, ever saw a man with makeup on unless it was Halloween and it was like a costume.
	But even that, I'm thinking, maybe not.
	So now you're telling me this is happening on campuses basically everywhere?
	Yeah, that's what I would assume.
	I mean, if it can happen in Montana, I'm fairly confident in every single thing.
	That's disgusting.
	What you'll see now, well, you even see straight men, they just kind of paint their nails black, and it's kind of part of this almost a new style where they're dressed up fairly feminine.
	And I think it's really, and there's kids with nose rings.
	There are kids who may put on a little bit of a mascara.
	It's not everywhere on campus, but you notice it.
	And of course, this is obviously a trap for females to fall for.
	It's very obvious that they're playing a role.
	I think Harry Styles is just on the cover of Vogue wearing a dress.
	And I don't know which team he plays for in that sense, but you get my point that it's kind of a, it's a weird, it is demonic in my opinion.
	So how are you able, I mean, based on where your faith is and your politics, how are you able to navigate this kind of hell, it sounds like, very difficult, where you're constantly reminded of the forces of evil when you're just trying to get an education.
	Well, or more likely, you're trying to get the certification so you can get a decent job.
	Yeah, I'd say that first and foremost, it's all about prayer.
	I mean, when you're on a college campus, you're on the front line of the spiritual warfare that's taking place individually and nationally because you see the demonic forces every single day.
	And you also see, and thankfully I was able to live in the dorms, but you'll see a lot of times on college campuses, these posters about mental health, do a mental health check.
	You can call your RA if you need someone to talk to.
	Like they kind of give the pseudotherapy type stuff.
	And it's really because I think that kids come here and they don't have any faith or they don't feed their faith.
	And what happens is they kind of drown.
	I mean, you go to the classroom or the class Zoom, how it is now, and they lie to you.
	They feed you poison about your country.
	They feed you poison about the truth.
	And then you get out of the classroom.
	You go back to your room and what happens in the dormitories.
	Well, the kids are trying to feed you poison with alcohol, with drugs, fornication.
	And if you don't have that grounding where you're praying three times a day, I like the three times a day rule, but if you're not praying every day, you will drown in all those forces.
	So I did.
	What time do you do the second prayer of the day?
	Do you do it at 3 p.m.?
	The second prayer, I try to do it around 3 p.m., but it's usually based on when I have my ninth hour.
	Okay, good.
	Yes, I like the ninth hour.
	I usually switch between the ninth hour and the sixth hour.
	So, okay, now the things you're telling me, maybe the people in the chat are like, what is this bad?
	Even me, I'm feeling a little black pill.
	So is there a white pill in this?
	The white pill is always the same.
	The white pill is that God is in control and he will only allow evil when a greater good comes out of it.
	I mean, that's why Christ died.
	I mean, he died.
	He was dead for three days and then he resurrected.
	And that just goes to show that he resurrection, that's what we celebrate.
	I mean, you were playing the song, you know, Christopho Sanese, Christ is risen.
	It just goes to show that, you know, no matter what happens, and I'm white-filled about the election, I think that it's going to go to the Supreme Court and Clarence Thomas is going to save the country.
	That's my hope.
	But at the end of the day, everything that happens around me only happens if God allows it.
	And he wants me to get closer to him.
	So at the end of the day, everything is kind of to that goal.
	So for me and for a lot of my friends who are very Christian, we see this stuff and it emboldens our faith because we know what the wrong path is and it becomes very visible to us.
	So it's very, it's much easier to get on the right path.
	I made an argument last week saying that if Joe Biden wins, if he gets inaugurated, spiritually, this will be a benefit because things will get so evil so fast that you will have no choice but to lean on God to help you get through.
	While Donald Trump, if he wins, which of course I'd rather him win, if he wins, really, he's going to buy us a little bit of time.
	Comfort is going to be a little bit high until things get bad.
	Would you agree with that?
	Or would you say, no, it doesn't matter, or maybe spiritually it's better if Trump wins?
	Well, I think I have to agree with you that I want Trump to win, and I really, really want him to win because I like him so much.
	And he always makes me smile when he's doing something funny.
	But I think there is some truth in that, that if we get put into hard times, you know, iron-sharpens iron, that it would probably bring about a greater resurgence in the faith.
	That is a good way to look at it.
	And that's also the way I've been looking at it.
	If Biden wins, I would say, well, people are going to wake up to the truth.
	You look at the October Revolution in Russia, and I think Father Sheriff and Rose brought this up in one of his lectures, that out of all of the suffering, all of the pain, all of the evil that was the Bolshevik Revolution, out came the holy new martyrs who inspired a great amount of Orthodox Christians abroad, abroad from Russia.
	And now you look at Russia, and it's far from perfect, but it is the biggest Orthodox country in the world.
	So there's always going to be evil, but evil has its hour.
	God has his day.
	Yes.
	I agree 100%.
	You know, it's when I am lucky enough to have been able to go to many Orthodox monasteries and churches across the country.
	And I have had conversations like this.
	And I feel Blessed too, because it's like, oh, yes, it's you know, things it's because you're seeing things that you read about coming to life in another person just like you.
	So, you know, and I hope that other people, once they find the true faith, you know, whatever they think it is, that they are able to have this too.
	But yeah, I mean, there's, I don't know if you were going to ask me a question or if that was just like the introduction.
	But yeah, I mean, what you're saying shows me that you're pretty close to the Orthodox faith and you understand.
	You can put things in context, which unfortunately, a lot of people, when they're in the news day to day, they get black pill, we're losing.
	But in the grand scheme of things, you know, I see the news as entertainment, and we don't need that because we have Christ.
	Yeah, that's exactly what I would say, too.
	The news, when you said on your last ruche hour, if it's on the TV, it's fake.
	That's just a good rule to live by.
	And I'm trying to get my family to also follow that rule.
	Stop listening to anything on the news.
	It doesn't work.
	I guess I kind of came on here to comment on the mask situation in the Orthodox Church.
	And the presupposition that we all have to have is that you cannot get sick in church.
	The only way people will die in church is if it's a martyrdom.
	That's what happened in Byzantium.
	That's what happened in Russia.
	They were coming to the church and you're dying for Christ.
	And we know that a martyrdom for Christ, the blood that comes out of your body when you're martyred, it baptizes and it also purifies you.
	That is like your purification.
	It's like a confession and a baptism in one go.
	A baptism if you're a catechuman or if you're looking into the faith.
	But I would say that the, I go to a church that is masked and it's only masked because our metropolitan has given that order.
	Now, we don't use the multiple spoons, but I think that a lot of the priests that have to go along with us are doing it because the bishop has ordained it.
	And the bishops are anointed by God.
	Whether or not we agree with them, they are anointed by God.
	And if you look at someone like Archbishop Elkido Floros, he is doing, yes, of course.
	He is doing a lot of stuff that the Orthodox community does not like.
	But look at the good that's come out of that.
	Because you see that what he's doing is wrong and it strengthens the faith among the followers because now they can recognize heresy.
	The first heresy I ever saw coming into faith was the multiple spoons.
	And I read that letter coming out of Manatos that the communion cannot transmit.
	And which church is doing that?
	I think that's like that is like an OCA thing or was or were other churches doing that?
	I think it depends on the metropolis.
	Okay, because there's some churches in each jurisdiction that are doing it, but it depends on the bishop in the area.
	But I think the point is, if you're coming to church, just go to church no matter what.
	The thing about Montana is all the Orthodox churches are spaced out between two hours, maybe it's like a two-hour drive, depending on where you're going and stuff like that.
	So just go to the church and put up with it, basically, because God knows that you're doing it not because you are testing him or not because that you are that you don't trust in him, but you're doing it because the shepherds that he has given us have told us to do this.
	Not that it's right, but that's what that's what they've ordained.
	That was kind of my comment on that.
	I don't know if you I know that you have some problems with the masks too, and believe it, I'm with you 100%.
	Yeah, I do.
	I can just tell you, though, when a couple of parishes I've been to, no masks at all.
	And I think the one story I can share is that I went to the Holy Trinity Monastery in Jordanville.
	I'm pretty sure you've heard of them or not.
	And I went there among the monks and the parish, I mean, the Parishioners, it was about a total of maybe 60 people.
	And I'm thinking, oh, there's going to be a lot of mask wearing here.
	There was not one mask out of all those people.
	This was in like September.
	Not one mask, even among the old.
	And I'm just like, my jaw is like, this is faith.
	This is faith.
	These people get it.
	I wanted to move there, you know.
	And unfortunately, and then I compare it to a parish church that is in Washington, D.C., specifically my church.
	And the priest is great.
	I mean, I don't have any issue with him.
	But the lay people, man, they are, I don't know.
	I think they believe too much in what they see on the TV.
	And it's just to go from no mask in the monastery to basically everyone masks but me in a parish church.
	It's a little depressing.
	But hey, that's what we have to work for.
	I mean, you know, the way I see it, our reward in the next life is going to be based on how hard we had to work through the problems here.
	So we have to be very careful.
	And I guess the theme of this stream is, you know, do we seek comfort or not?
	And I think a lot of men are itching for comfort because it's getting hard.
	It's getting harder.
	I sent a tweet out just the other day that says 2021 is going to be harder.
	And some people, they couldn't even get through 2020.
	So what does that say?
	It says that those without faith are not going to make it.
	They're not going to make it.
	They're going to beg for the government, beg for the doctors, the experts to save them.
	So I think that's what we are.
	And even among us, among men of the faith, even that temptation, oh, I just want a life a little bit easier, a little bit more comfortable.
	I think that's a temptation too.
	I think a lot of the people who come to you and they ask advice still ask advice about, well, how do I find a woman?
	I really want to have a family.
	I think it comes out of that desire for comfort.
	And that's part of the human condition.
	We want to be comfortable.
	We want to have it easy, but it's never going to be easy.
	I mean, the monks will, they never live easily.
	They deny themselves food so that they can get closer to Christ.
	And they deny themselves food knowing that they might have an apparition of Satan.
	I mean, that's what happened to St. Paisios.
	The devil came to him while he was on a 14-day fast.
	And they still, you know, it's a purification process.
	We're kind of in the midst of the great purifier.
	I think that's what COVID-19 has shown.
	To kind of touch more on the woman question, I will say as someone who is surrounded by lots of girls on a college campus and whether or not you should use game, I have chosen to completely give up flirtation.
	Any type of flirting or any type of game, it's not going to work.
	You know, I came from, before I returned to the faith, I kind of prided myself on being able to talk to girls and I can make some good jokes and I could have, I could find a girl at a party and then at the end of the party, we could, I could get her number, I could kiss her, whatever it is.
	And I've now noticed that if you still do that now, you will only attract a secular woman.
	And it's also just not the way that God will show you a woman.
	He will not show you a woman based on which one liked your jokes the most or which one liked your pickup lines the most.
	This man gets it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, we need more people to get it.
	But it's the kind of point of that is just, yeah, don't use, don't use the game.
	Just do the Jesus prayer.
	When you're doing the Jesus prayer, when you're asking for mercy, mercy means a lot of things.
	It means forgiveness, but it also means blessings.
	So when you have a blessing, a spouse and a family is a blessing.
	And I think, God, even if you may not need a family to be saved, or even if someone who can remain chased without a family, if God knows that you can raise a family that will orient themselves to you, I'm of the opinion that he will provide that person with a family.
	So, if someone like you, Rush, I think that you would be a great father to a young girl or a young boy, whatever it is.
	So, I would bet, now, of course, we're not supposed to make prophecy or anything, but I would bet that if God knows that you can raise a God-fearing family, then he will gift you that blessing.
	And if I cannot, then he's not, and that's fine.
	So, really, I accept it, you know, because I know that if God doesn't want me to marry, but I try to force it, and a lot of people do, it's going to end in disaster and it's going to screw up the mission that I have to serve in this earth.
	So, basically, it's accepting whatever is given to you.
	No complaints, no personal will, no desires, just accept it.
	Of course, you're serving God.
	You don't have to accept evil being done upon you, but even that has a purpose in the sense of, well, there's a reason God allowed that.
	He allowed it because when you lean on him to get through whatever problem you're going through, your faith is going to grow.
	Your salvation is going to be assured.
	Your rewards in heaven are going to be greater.
	So, really, there's no reason to complain, but easier said than done because we're going to encounter problems that are very, very difficult.
	And we don't want it.
	We don't want to experience this.
	We want to, God, I don't want to carry this cross.
	It's too, it's, it's too heavy.
	And he's going to say, all right, fine.
	And then you're free of it.
	And then a month after that, uh-oh, here's another cross.
	So.
	Yeah.
	And all I could say to that is glory to God in the highest.
	We just had the Akafe of Thanksgiving.
	And you really have to thank God for the good and the bad because if it wasn't meant to be, then he would not have allowed it.
	So glory to God in the highest for that.
	Before I drop off, I did want to make one comment about the Armenian-Azerbaijan conflict that I thought maybe could be a little bit of a white pill for any Orthodox people listening or watching the live stream.
	Saint Baesios, he was very specific on his prophecy about the conversion of Constantinople back to the Orthodox Church.
	And what he said was that Turkey and Russia were going to get into a war somehow, and it will end with the Greeks, whatever you want to call the ethnic group, but the Orthodox Church getting the Hajja Sophia back.
	So in that sense, a lot of geopolitical thinkers, they believe that the Armenia conflict was almost a proxy war between Russia and Turkey.
	I'm not as informed in that.
	And I don't know if you take the prophecies that recent saints give seriously.
	I tend to, but I still think they are.
	Learning them.
	I mean, I can tell you've been in the Orthodox Church for a long time, but me, I'm still like trying to catch up.
	So a lot of these things are new to me.
	I think you came back before I did.
	Believe me, I'm a very recent.
	You are a faster learner.
	Well, you want to have to read all the time.
	I think you know the importance of this.
	The spiritual reading is so great for your soul.
	I mean, it's like I don't even want to read.
	I was going to read a Pat Buchanan book because I know that he really gets what's going on in America.
	And then before I read that book, I read a book on St. Gregory Powell Mass, and I realized I don't even want to read any more politics books.
	I mean, I still keep up with politics.
	I keep up.
	I'm very involved in that.
	And I, you know, I'm going to hopefully go to law school.
	That was what the plan is right now, but that's always up in the air at this point.
	But my point is that the spiritual reading, that's where it's at.
	That's where we all need the.
	Once you read those books, to read like a secular book is very dry.
	It's like this does nothing.
	This serves me in no way.
	It's basic, basic entertainment, trivia.
	It doesn't serve a purpose on my spiritual path as much.
	It's just giving me facts, right?
	Yeah, honestly, that's a good way of putting it.
	I didn't think of it that way, but yes, that's exactly how I feel when I even try to pick up a book.
	I mean, I read when I was younger, I read Jordan Peterson's book, and I was like, oh, this guy gets all about responsibility and picking up.
	In his sense, he was taking up your responsibility.
	He liked that to picking up your cross.
	But you read like Jordan Peterson's book, and then you read a book like Father Arseny, who was a priest in the Gulags, and you realize that there is Jordan Peterson or a secular psychologist.
	It's almost like Aristotle, right?
	They're trying to get at the truth.
	They're looking at it through a keyhole.
	But when you look at it in light of orthodoxy, in light of theology and spiritual truth, that's the clear picture right there.
	That's where you get the light hitting your eyes.
	Yeah, if you try to pursue the truth without God, oh boy, you're going to have a lot of mud dragging through.
	It's going to, your truth will be greatly distorted.
	So that's one thing that I found out.
	Good.
	All right, I'm sure there's a lot of callers.
	This was a great question.
	Well, thank you, Caller.
	It was nice to experience some Orthodox fellowship, and I'm sure our paths will cross again.
	Yeah, for sure.
	I'll probably shoot you an email or something like that where, in case I'm ever in the East Coast again, which I probably will return to the East Coast soon.
	And then, or if you're ever coming to Montana, they're building a monastery in here.
	Oh, great.
	It's a lot being done.
	But if you ever want to come visit the monastery, we'll go.
	Perfect.
	So, yeah, you can get in touch then.
	Will do.
	All right.
	Okay, caller.
	Have a great night.
	You too.
	Bye-bye now.
	Oh, that was based.
	All right, I have to go use the bathroom.
	Let me put on some night driving for you, and then I'll take the next caller.
	Okay, so let's take another call.
	Hello, caller.
	You're now live.
	Yeah, hi, Rush.
	How's it going?
	Where are you calling from?
	I'm calling from Lakeland, Florida.
	You were kind of close to me on your Babylon Road trip.
	So I discovered you about three, I guess about three videos into your Babylon Road series that you had.
	But I know nothing about you prior to that, or I didn't.
	I've learned since.
	But I didn't know you before that, so I didn't see your conversion.
	I just knew you as Orthodox from that.
	That's probably a good thing.
	I am glad.
	So I do follow you as well on Twitter.
	And I know you've had some things to say about this crazy election going on.
	What I wanted to know is, for one thing, you seem pretty confident about maybe Trump will pull it off.
	But here's the thing.
	Really, what I see is: let's say this happened for Trump.
	Half this country is going to go bananas, and there'll probably be a civil war.
	If he doesn't win and Joe comes in, what we're going to have is a lot of disenfranchised people who aren't going to listen to that president.
	And that president's going to bring in lockdowns and everything else.
	And we're still going to have a civil war on our hands.
	So I don't see any of this going well.
	And I was wondering what your thoughts on this are.
	Yeah, I agree with you.
	This is why when I refer to Trump winning earlier, that would give us, our side, a little bit of comfort and a little bit of extra time.
	A little bit extra time until when?
	Until the country descends into a lot of violence or just breaks up completely.
	So me, I want Trump to win from the perspective of he's, I think, you know, he's on the side of God at least.
	You know, I see him, yeah, maybe his faith isn't very strong, but he is a Christian.
	He believes in the basic tenets of Christianity, let's say.
	And I don't think he has done, let's say, evil as much as Biden or his team has.
	So I think from the side of, if you're on the side of God, the side of truth, I would say Trump is more compatible with that.
	But that said, if Trump wins, if he gets in, we're going to see the biggest riots the world has ever seen.
	They're going to be huge.
	And they're going to, some of the cities, they may not be able to put them down.
	It's just going to bester, move into the suburbs and so on.
	So it's almost like the fate of this country, like all other countries that have ever existed, has been written.
	It's going to break up.
	It's going to collapse.
	So it's just a matter of when and specifically how.
	But for Trump, by hoping he wins, that gives us a little bit more time.
	Because who couldn't use a little bit more time to get ready for the immense changes that are definitely happening within this decade?
	So I could use time and maybe you can.
	So, okay, how much time is he going to give us?
	I would say two years, probably, which is, you want to say four years, but I know I don't even think we saw with his first term towards the end, they really started to push hard to get him out.
	I think for the second term, we'll have maybe two years of, I don't even want to say stability, but I want to say not chaos.
	So we'll have two years of not chaos.
	And two years, I think a lot of us could use that to build our faith to come into the position where we are more ready to serve God through the trials.
	And also, in like a practical sense, to move out of your mom's house.
	That could definitely help.
	But yeah, if our guy wins, they're going to be very passed, but they, excuse me, they're going to be very pissed, and they have the foot soldiers on the ground to transform that anger into violence.
	We, not as much.
	We, I think, if Biden gets in, we're going to end up, our side is going to probably lead to more of a mass disobedience, some sporadic militia activity.
	But I think if Trump wins, it's going to be overnight.
	You're going to see the violence.
	I think they're probably going to be able to put down this first wave of violence currently, but it's now they're going to start to do long, the side of evil.
	It's going to do long-term planning and strategizing on how to really throw Trump out.
	So it's going to be ugly.
	Yeah.
	I mean, but still, I'd rather Trump win for the reasons that I stated.
	That's understandable.
	I feel the same.
	The big deal for me is that I'm a single father and I'm raising my son all by myself full-time.
	He just turned 16, so he is older.
	So, I mean, it's not like he's a small child or anything.
	But, you know, in this life, there are many things worse than death.
	And something happening to him would obviously be worse than death to me.
	So I know that I can stand up to what's coming on my own, but I also worry about my child.
	That's tough.
	Yeah, but I mean, as long as your faith in God is there, and as long as your son is, you know, not an unrepentant sinner who spites God, you know, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
	He'll get up and go to liturgy without me, man.
	Yeah, I mean, I know you don't want your child to be harmed, to die.
	That's common.
	But if the trials come, you know, if your son doesn't see you in this life, if he stops, and then he'll see you in the next one.
	Both you and him will serve God with each other.
	So, yeah, I think your concern would be my son is doing really bad things, really evil things.
	His salvation I'm concerned about.
	And now the war is coming and he may die.
	And I don't want him to die in a state of sin.
	I think that would be something, yeah, very concerning.
	But other than that, I mean, yeah, there's no way you can protect him from the evils of the world.
	I think many parents try to shelter their children, but you know, that's not going to work.
	We can't also hijack their free will.
	So I mean, if you're a man of the faith, you've given your son as much of a catechism as you can and given him an opportunity to learn about God.
	You've done your duty.
	You know, you've done your duty.
	And now it's his choice.
	And unfortunately, some boys and girls, they don't want God.
	You know, they are so full of pride, like I was, and they have to fall for a long time.
	And I can see, well, we don't have that time.
	I can't allow my kid to fall because the world is going to fall soon.
	Well, you're just going to have to trust in God that he is provid.
	If your son or daughter's soul is good, he's going to provide a path for them to be saved because you definitely cannot affect by a whole degree how your child is saved or not.
	But yes, I think you have a valid concern.
	It sounds like you're on top of things and you're doing the most that you can actually do.
	Yeah, well, I try.
	And, you know, one other thing that I wanted to touch on is you mentioned the beard to the mask.
	It's funny because I've got the big long Orthodox beard going on.
	And I go walk into stores everywhere.
	Everyone has masks.
	I do not wear them.
	I refuse.
	But my county is different.
	We have a sheriff named Grady Judd.
	He's pretty popular all over the United States, kind of hardcore.
	And he's very conservative, so to speak.
	And plus, our governor, we don't have the restrictions, but people still mask up.
	I absolutely refuse, but nobody says anything to me.
	So there's that.
	So you're right about that.
	You know, and when you see all these people who are so scared, it's basically the Bible come to life.
	I mean, it's just people without faith.
	Now you can see it.
	Before coronavirus, you couldn't really tell a person's faith just by passing them along the supermarket.
	But now it's like a visible reminder of faith, especially in church.
	Okay, old person wears a mask in church, but a young person, you're 20-something, you're wearing a mask in church.
	Something about that, it kind of bugs me.
	It bugs me.
	But I think it reveals a lot about themselves.
	And we can only pray for people who are just so far from the truth that, you know, they're scared of dying.
	Look, I'm scared of the act of dying, you know, that last breath or when your heart stops.
	But I think as Christians, death itself, the idea of death, no, we're not scared of that.
	You know, I'll be kind of scared on the deathbed, you know, asking the Lord to help ease my transition.
	But in terms of death, to be scared of death, that says that you believe this is it.
	You believe this world is all.
	And I feel sorry for those people.
	Because if this world is all there is, and this one life is all that we have, and you happen to be alive in 2020 when Klaus Schwab and his oligarchs are trying to lock us up, what a crappy life that is.
	I mean, what a crappy life.
	Oops, I was born in the wrong time.
	I have to wear a mask for the rest of my life and be a prisoner in my own home.
	I can go to Walmart.
	That's the point of life.
	Well, if that is, man, then, you know, I feel sorry for you that you have that.
	And at least I grew up in a time where I had the freedom to chase after the flesh and the novelty around the world.
	I did that much more intensely than many other guys.
	But even I did that, that I see that that wasn't, that was a false row too.
	That led to misery too.
	Guilt, anger, dissatisfaction, even the pleasures, if even chasing after the flesh.
	And I could do this before Corona, you know, the past 20 years, let's say.
	Even that, the pleasures are a dead end.
	If you make the pleasures the point of your life, even that's pointless.
	So, like I talked to with the other caller, I think, you know, when evil is so manifest, that really provides a boost to your faith because you know, this, what Christ has given us, this is it.
	That's the answer.
	And I hope people, yeah, and I hope people, they can understand it before it's too late.
	All right, man.
	Thank you, Rosh.
	I appreciate you.
	Okay, sir.
	Thank you.
	And God bless you and your son.
	You as well.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye-bye.
	Yeah, to think that the point of life is to bang women that don't love you and to see new cities and different buildings and eat different foods.
	That's sad.
	To think that that's the point of life, that you're going to get happiness out of that.
	And that's something that a lot of men fell for.
	You know, I do wonder if there's some secular young people who are so sad that they can't travel the world and bang people.
	I'm like, oh, man, I wanted to travel and rack up notches and stuff.
	And they don't know how lucky they are that they're not going to spend thousands and thousands of hours doing that.
	But unfortunately, as long as they have the desire to do it, that's going to be a problem.
	They're going to have to really self-examine themselves and see where that desire is coming from.
	Is it coming from a place of good or not?
	All right.
	Hello, Caller.
	You're now live.
	Hey, what's going on, Rich?
	Just want to say you're a big inspiration to guys everywhere.
	So just putting out all the time.
	Sure.
	And where are you calling from?
	I'm in Tampa, Florida, right now.
	I know you got a lot of Florida callers tonight.
	But I grew up in Howard County, Maryland, actually.
	Oh, okay.
	Silver Springs when I was born in Silver Springs.
	I know that that federal zone that you're in is kind of stuck.
	It basically doesn't.
	When was the last time that you were in Howard County?
	I think last Christmas.
	Okay, because I mean, as you know, the past 10 years, it's starting to change there, you too.
	Oh, actually, no, I was up there for Labor Day.
	So, yeah, everyone was wearing masks.
	My whole family was wearing masks.
	It was weird.
	Yeah.
	Have you tried to tell your family about what's really going on?
	Because a lot of people, a lot of men, they have not been able to get through to their parents.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I've tried a lot.
	I've got my dad to come around a little bit.
	I haven't even really tried my mom.
	But my girlfriend, I've definitely got her to come around and she's in the medical field.
	So, yeah, there's hope, I think.
	But the main reason I was calling because I saw your Babylon Road series and I noticed that you went through St. Pete and you said some pretty good stuff about it.
	So I was wondering, I guess you didn't go downtown because there's like a gay flag on every lamppost down there.
	I was, I saw like a block or two.
	I just went for like a block to shoot the video.
	One thing I noticed, and maybe you can tell me, I saw a lot of Jewish things, like Jewish community centers, temples, or synagogues.
	It seemed like a Jewish city.
	Yeah, I actually, I looked up the mayor, and he's yeah, he's a tractor.
	So I don't, I can guess.
	I'm not really from that part of town, but I'm on the other side of the bay.
	But I'm down there a lot just for restaurants and things like that.
	Yeah, I think people just a lot of guys down here just don't wear masks.
	And definitely the beard helps.
	I've been growing my beard out.
	And you have a determined look on your face.
	I don't think anyone really messes with you.
	So what if you look like either you're homeless or you're a killer and nobody really bothers you.
	But if you look like a soy boy like me, if I shave, I mean, I'm not a tough guy or anything.
	I don't have a hard face, but if I pretty much shave, suddenly everyone thinks that they can push me around.
	I don't really get that.
	Oh, yeah.
	I look like I'm 15 without a beard, if I'm specially shaving.
	Anyway, just keep it up, man.
	Thank you.
	Okay, cool.
	Thank you very much.
	Bye-bye now.
	Okay, some more calls.
	Let's go here.
	Hello, Carla.
	You're now live.
	Hello?
	Yes.
	Roosh.
	You don't sound like a man.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm very excited to talk to you.
	You know, it's funny.
	I was calling actually to ask you a question, and I do want to ask you a question.
	Can you first just say where you are calling from?
	Because I pick up on a southern accent.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	I'm from Greensboro, North Carolina, but I moved to Monterey, California in 2003.
	Okay.
	So, and I started listening to you after my friend told me about you doing the tour across the country.
	And he had also given me some information about your background.
	Okay.
	Which, you know, anyway, after listening to some of your callers, I do believe that maybe that if you were to go to North Carolina or South Carolina or some of those states, you might have a better chance of meeting some quality women.
	I know for myself, just growing up in North Carolina, it's a good solid upbringing.
	I mean, yes, I went to college and partied and had fun, but I wasn't there looking for a husband, you know.
	And anyway, I think there are some good women out there.
	Yeah, I mean, it seems to be, though, the way you meet them is not just to kind of fly in and say, here I am, and then suddenly the best of them are going to want to be with you.
	It seems like you have to be a part of a community.
	It's not how I used to do it, which was really just to fly into a place and then start like an idiot walking up to girls.
	But I do, I have noticed that the default morals of women in some place is better.
	So, I mean, when you're talking about New York City, LA, D.C., I mean, what you really get is the women who have chosen to fall hard moving in to continue falling.
	So it's really, I can't participate in as much sin I want in my hometown.
	So I'm going to go to DC where I can go all out.
	So unfortunately, that's what a lot of men, and most people, they live in these big metropolitan places.
	That's what they have to deal with.
	Yeah, that's very true.
	So I wanted to ask you, and I hope this doesn't sound crazy, but the whole coronavirus and how it was developed or whatever, you know, oops.
	Do you feel like that somehow the liberals were behind creating the virus to take down Trump?
	You know, I've seen that theory a lot, and that's a tough one because really we can only speculate.
	There's no way we can confirm it.
	It would be something out of like a novel or a movie.
	You know, I mean, that would be a crazy thing to create a virus.
	I would imagine, though, if you really hated the politician, killing him would be a little bit simpler.
	I don't know.
	But I don't think they created it just for him.
	I think they have pushed the agenda behind the virus to hurt him as much as possible.
	So I think it's kind of like killing two birds with one stone type of deal where they had the plans for how to deal with the pandemic.
	And then it came and they're like, okay, now how can we also hurt this guy that we really hate?
	So that's how I, that's what my instinct says.
	But to, you know, I'm still not sold in designing a virus and unleashing it.
	I'm not, I'm sure they can do things in the laboratory, but I don't know.
	I'm not convinced on that yet.
	Oh, well, thank you.
	And one thing you were talking about earlier, one reason I moved to Monterey from North Carolina was for the weather.
	By the way, I have been there.
	I went to see that you guys have all of the seals hanging out by the canning, the canning, old canning, what are they called?
	Yep.
	The Canary Row.
	Right, right.
	So I was there.
	And so for you, did you move there as a single woman or?
	Yeah, I was in my 30s, and I was unattached.
	And my mom had just passed away, and I had no real ties, although I had plenty of friends and family.
	I just, I was always fascinated with California.
	And I came out here on vacation several times and just thought, God, what would it be like to live there?
	And the weather is just perfect, although I think it's probably really perfect in San Diego.
	But there's so many liberals here.
	I think I was a liberal.
	I was kind of a Democrat when I moved out here.
	And I have since become a staunch Republican because there's just, it's just so liberal out here.
	Like somebody was saying earlier, it's on a different scale from East Coast liberals.
	Yeah.
	And do you think you're going to stay there?
	Because I know California from what I hear is going down pretty quickly.
	Yeah, well, you know, the cost of living is crazy.
	And it's funny.
	I tried and tried and tried to meet a guy for so many years and went to bars and had a great time, really.
	But I didn't meet my husband until I think I really had kind of come to terms with myself.
	You know, when I first, when I finally started believing that, you know, I have a lot to offer, you know, I've got a good job.
	I've got a, you know, I can support.
	I know that sounds, you know, after what you've been talking about, that's not what's, you know, the most important.
	But to be able to be able to support yourself, feel good about yourself, feel like you have a lot to offer someone.
	I think when you really believe that, I think that's when you attract someone.
	And I happened to meet a guy that lives in my condo complex.
	And we got married about a year and a half later.
	Oh, great.
	Well, I'm glad you found someone.
	I hope the marriage continues and it gets stronger.
	Thank you.
	Well, you know, I tell you, it took, I'm 50.
	I'm 50 years old, so it took a long time.
	So don't give up.
	I know you're only 39.
	I'm a little bit older than that now, 41.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, thank you so much for taking my call.
	I really appreciate it.
	Thanks.
	Okay, good luck.
	Okay.
	Bye-bye.
	Yeah, I find that the southern accent is very pleasing.
	I'm a big fan.
	All right, let's go to the next caller.
	Hello, Carla.
	You're now live.
	Raush.
	That's me.
	How did you know that that's my actual name?
	My name is Roush.
	Somebody, I'm a bear.
	This is your buddy Joe Gagan in Albuquerque.
	I talked to you in April when you had that epic, epic stream.
	Okay.
	And somebody on my Instagram, probably through being a bear, Linked me to you doing that construction work down there, and it was very funny.
	Those guys are cool.
	Yeah, it was quite the experience.
	I'm still trying to process it, right?
	Well, I'm 60.
	I've got a beard that it's the longest beard I've ever grown.
	It's almost pure white, and I've got a pretty commanding presence.
	I haven't worn a mask.
	There's a lot of places I can't go in.
	I've been yelled at, and I want to fight them.
	One guy was being driven by his girlfriend away from an outdoor market where I was getting some green chili, and they saw me, you know, order my chili and didn't confront me until they were driving away in their car.
	Cowards.
	And they yelled at me, you know, wear a mask.
	But it was a guy being driven by his girlfriend.
	And I said, I just was yelling, come back here.
	You know, I'm the profanity, profanity.
	And everybody, so everybody in the market, there were, you know, because they roast the chili, everybody's waiting like, you know, 20 minutes to an hour to get their chili.
	So everybody's standing around.
	So everybody witnessed this, and I had to continue to hang out there for the next half an hour.
	But anyway, it was what you've been saying about faith has been so true in my life.
	I have so much peace around this election.
	I can't even describe it.
	I've been with my fiancé for 15 years.
	We've been living in sin, but I have a tax reason.
	I need to get my taxes before I can marry her.
	But she was 45 when we got together and had never lived with a guy, never got married, never had kids.
	But she was raised Christian in Pennsylvania and just an amazing person.
	We've been together 15 years.
	And she's brought me, she's helped me see the peace that comes from just having God have your back.
	Just walk with God.
	Yeah.
	I mean, when you have God on your side, how can you lose?
	How can you raise?
	No matter what the world does.
	Look, the world's going to do what the world wants to do.
	And with God, you can't lose.
	It's kind of, though, when you know how bad things are getting, you kind of take a deep breath and like, oh, oh, yeah, I guess this is what we have to endure.
	But then you get over it.
	Yeah, this is what you have to endure.
	Then you, if you read the lives of the saints and so on, you're like, well, they had to endure way worse than I did.
	So I can't, what can I complain about?
	You know, God has given me another day.
	He has given me another day, yet another day when I don't deserve it.
	You know, if God was all just, let's say, I would have been, he would have striked me down a long time ago for the evil that I was doing.
	So he keeps giving me chances.
	He's giving me another day to serve him, another day to serve him through my neighbor, through my family, through anyone.
	Even if it's something stupid, let's say like making a pizza for someone, making someone feel a little bit of joy for a moment in life, and maybe sharing a word of the gospel with them as they eat their homemade pizza.
	So I can't really complain.
	And when I do want to complain, which is very often because I'm weak, when I do want to complain, I have to stop.
	Like, look, you have nothing to complain about.
	Look at what you've done in the past.
	Look at the chances God has given you.
	Look at the Christians that God sends to you.
	So, yeah, I mean, sometimes I get these moments or maybe I am upset, but I try to get over it because, again, when you have God, like, there's really nothing to worry about.
	That's where I want to get my faith to, where I just don't worry at all.
	Because I can be honest to you, I do get my black pill moments.
	If there's a bad day in the news, you're like, oh, this sucks, man.
	But then you realize that.
	I just don't watch any news.
	I was just about to say, I have to stop that too, even.
	But then when people ask you to do a live stream where you analyze the news, you see the conundrum.
	Right.
	Right.
	Well, I think your point about how it's going to go on this recount or challenging the supposed election, I think either outcome is going to continue us down the road of this oligarchical control that they've apparently been planning to put into play.
	And I think Trump is part of that machine just like Biden is.
	And a lot of people tell me a lot of people tell me that.
	I don't agree with that.
	I don't think they're part of it.
	Now, I can agree that the machine is using Trump to still fulfill their goals.
	But to say that Trump is lying to us and a part of it, it could be.
	I'm not a God.
	I don't know.
	But I can't agree with that.
	There's a dude in England, Simon, I forget his last name.
	He's got an analysis and he's got some pretty solid evidence that the Heritage Foundation put Trump up to this.
	And then there's a whole bunch that's behind the Heritage Foundation.
	And I've come to this very reluctantly and slowly and with caution because I was a big Trump guy.
	I saw him live and when my dad was alive, he was really glad that Trump was doing what he was doing.
	It's easy to root for the guy that believes generally the way we do.
	I don't even think as a boomer, he shares a lot of beliefs.
	I don't.
	A lot.
	I don't even, there's not many things that I agree with him on, to be honest with you.
	Yeah, I kind of misspoke there.
	I know what you mean.
	Yeah.
	But that said, like I mentioned to the previous caller, he's more on the side of truth and God.
	More.
	Now, okay, if you want to present the argument that he's controlled, hey, you know what?
	It's possible.
	It's possible.
	I don't think so.
	But regardless, when you see Biden, who can't even finish a sentence, who is going to be, who, you know, Kamala, I would vote for Trump.
	I would want Trump to win just so we don't have a black woman be the president.
	And right now, I have offended nobody by saying that.
	Right.
	I mean, just to keep her eyes.
	Just to keep her eye.
	Listen, even if they're both controlled, just to keep Kamala, to everyone voting, we have a black female president.
	Just to stop that, I vote for Trump.
	Right.
	But so just on the bigger picture again, I am looking forward to next year.
	And I actually, I do like hardship.
	I love to work.
	So I'm just saying, bring it on.
	And, you know, it's in God's hands.
	I almost feel like I want the opportunity to prove my faith to God, to show God, hey, this is, I really do lean on you totally.
	But I have to be very careful what I wish for.
	So I'm not hoping that things go bad.
	But if it does, in my mind, I'm like, yes, I can prove it.
	I can prove that I'm counting on him to help me endure.
	But that's a hard thing.
	So I really do.
	This is why I want Trump to win.
	I am going to say, let's have a little bit more comfort for a couple more years to allow everyone to prepare.
	But if the hardship happens, I hope, I hope, I pray that my faith stays strong enough that I can prove to God, yes, I have put you first.
	And it's easy to say it when you're comfortable, when you're in a heated home, you have food on the table, there's no bullets flying through your window, there's no government aim.
	It's very easy to say that, but when things get tough, let's see what faith is left.
	Right.
	I did have one other test this week, and that is my mother is 84, and she's an author, a PhD counseling psychologist, very new agey.
	You know, she came up through that whole mind, you know, she came up through that whole business of psychology that just is like, you know, a flag whipping in the wind.
	You know, every three to five years, the whole thing changes.
	We don't believe in what we were talking about before.
	And her books are kind of kooky.
	But my four siblings have decided I can't see her if I won't wear a mask.
	And I'm adamant that I'm, that I am to, and I have done this up until now.
	I've visited her with no mask.
	She lives in Santa Fe, 60 miles away.
	I don't get to see her that often, but I've driven up to see her, and I don't wear the mask, and she's okay with it.
	But my brothers and sisters have stepped in and said I'm not allowed to see her anymore.
	So that is custodianship over her that they can make this call.
	You're going to love this.
	She just recently got scammed for $200,000 by people who take advantage of authors who they say you want an award and we need this money to print your books and get them into all the libraries.
	So they've, so here's the funny, the funny conundrum they've put themselves in.
	They've declared her her caretaker.
	See, I've been the black sheep forever, you know, because of my faith.
	My whole family is pretty secular.
	You know, all rejecting Catholicism from before.
	So, and I'm the only one that's really come back to a strong Christian faith out of the whole family, and they just consider me a kook.
	So they've been able to get together and say I don't have a say in anything.
	And even though I'm the oldest.
	So they do, because of what happened, this was all recent with the 200K going down the tubes.
	They've taken over all of her life.
	But now they're in this situation where they're telling me she wants you to wear the mask.
	So they are giving her say in certain areas of her life and not in other, you know, they're playing both sides of the ball game there.
	But I just have to be with it.
	And I know you're not going to like this piece of advice, but if it means to see your mom or not, I would wear the mask.
	Even though, okay.
	Even though I wouldn't, even though it goes against what you know.
	And wearing a mask for men like us is basically lying with our faith.
	But that said, in a case like this where you're outnumbered, the way I would see it is your siblings and maybe to a lesser extent your mom are deceived.
	They're deceived by Satan.
	They're falling for Satan's lies.
	They have fell for it maybe their entire life.
	So can you really be angry at them?
	You know, a lot of us fell for Satan's lies, maybe even including us.
	They're in a state of deception.
	Anything they do to hurt you is not so much coming from them, but the fact that they're controlled by the evil one.
	So if you look at it from that point, and I hope you can hear it in my voice.
	I am not angry at you.
	Yeah.
	But like me.
	Your advice is I would wear the mask.
	This is good.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	Even though, look, I'm as anti-mask as you can get, but for pragmatic reasons, I wear it sometimes, especially when I'm in public.
	Well, I've enjoyed being able to say I've never worn it, but this of all reasons.
	That is pride.
	To be able to say I've accomplished this thing is pride.
	100%.
	100% pride.
	So me, I can't say that.
	When you can quote an achievement, why would you do that?
	It's pride.
	And look, I got that too.
	You know, I was, dude, I was counting how many times in a row I would go to a store without having to wear it so that I can tell people, oh, I haven't worn a mask 10 times in a row.
	That is, that's, that's pride.
	Right.
	Okay.
	I'll go see her and I'll wear a mask.
	Thank you.
	Okay, buddy.
	all right bye-bye now yeah dang pride gets us gets us all Hey.
	Hello, Collier.
	You're now live.
	Hey, Roosh.
	And where are you calling from?
	I'm from Michigan.
	Michigan?
	Hey, what is going on there?
	Well, you might know we have this crazy governor, Gretchen Whitmer.
	Yeah.
	What's with her face?
	Has she had some plastic surgery or something?
	It looks like a mask.
	I think she was born that way.
	But she was just nominated by time, I guess, for person of the year.
	For doing what?
	She hasn't won it, but I guess she's been nominated.
	I don't know.
	Killing old people in nursing homes, maybe.
	How did she get in?
	I'm guessing you guys, I'm guessing the Democratic cities, Detroit and so on, they got her in.
	Yeah.
	I mean, my friend group really hates her.
	You know, we no one I know voted for her.
	But yeah, it's Detroit, Ann Arbor, all these really heavy left places.
	And now, with what we know about fraud coming out, it's possible she didn't even win anyway.
	Because now we don't even know if these people, if these Democratic governors and senators are really getting in in an honest way or not.
	Now I would really start to question everything.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't know what's going to happen with that.
	I think she might get elected again when her term comes for when her time comes to be up for re-election again.
	But anyway, I wanted to mention the book of Ecclesiastes.
	I don't know if you've done a lot of reading in there.
	I've read it a couple times, yes.
	Yeah, that's, I really find a lot of encouragement.
	I'm kind of a melancholy individual.
	Not necessarily black-pilled, but just, you know, I kind of have a chip on my shoulder sometimes about things.
	But I find a lot of encouragement in hearing the author say sort of the same things that I'm thinking a lot of times, you know, that life just sort of feels like a slog.
	And now, have you made it to the new testament yet?
	Yes, yeah.
	Okay, because that now, it's not a slog.
	Now, it's worth it, you know, for what there's a reason to it.
	So if you take Ecclesiastes alone, yeah, it's like nothing new under the sun.
	It's kind of like a black pill book.
	But with Christ, that puts it in perspective.
	Because this, you know, that was written.
	So you can't say it's accurate anymore.
	They said there's nothing new under the sun, but then Christ came, right?
	So that is something new under the sun.
	So it was at the time it was written as the best that they had, but then Christ came.
	So now I do, we have to be, I would be a little careful about using that book because that was written before Christ.
	And now with Christ, I mean, there's not much excuse to be blackpilled for more than a moment or two.
	You know, just from the other, I don't know if you could hear the other callers that I talked with, but there's not a whole lot of excuse.
	When we have Christ, there's not, yeah, I mean, you're a human being that comes with an inherent weakness to your flesh.
	And, you know, if your faith is in there, I'm still building mine.
	It's, you're going to get some moments where you don't want to deal with this stuff.
	You don't, you don't, things seem unfair and wrong and unjust.
	Where is the justice in this world?
	It seems like only evil people are going to win.
	Well, yeah, in this world, yes.
	So I think once you put it into context, you start to get out of that darkness, that black pill darkness, and into the light where, you know, everything is happening for our salvation, for our benefit, even though it doesn't seem that way.
	But everything that happens, God permits it for our benefit.
	And really, once you step back from all the events that seem like it's just happening to you and look at the big picture, it starts to make sense, but that's that comes with time.
	No, I will say a few years ago, as sort of a white pill, I was on a road trip from California back home to Michigan.
	And I was in Las Vegas and just driving through.
	I don't gamble or anything, but I had some family issues going on and ended up on the side of the highway in like a complete mental breakdown.
	And I was on the phone with my mom and was having a really hard time.
	And as I was sitting there, this car drove up behind me with lights flashing.
	And I thought it was a cop.
	I thought it was maybe going to get a ticket or something for being on the side of the highway for so long.
	And he came up to my window and said, it wasn't a cop.
	He came up to my window and said, hey, you know, are you doing all right?
	You know, I said, I'm just having a mental breakdown.
	I can't think straight right now.
	He's like, all right, man, well, just up ahead of, you know, there's an exit.
	Why don't you just go get some food and get a hotel and get some rest?
	And he said, I'll follow you to the exit, make sure you make it there okay.
	And I'll let you be on your way, you know.
	And so I just said, okay, thank you.
	You know, I was very, it was a very refreshing thing at the time.
	And I hung up the phone with my mom and drove off to the exit, you know, and got a hotel and everything.
	And now looking back years later, it's like, wow, that I was in a really dark place at the time and, you know, was suicidal even.
	And just hearing that in that moment, that's all I needed was someone to tell me that, you know, just relax.
	Everything's going to be all right.
	Here's some relief.
	And for me, that felt like a sort of God appointment, like someone working, God working through somebody, you know.
	Because I can tell you that if I right now pulled over my car and like in the Washington, D.C. area, we have this circular highway called the Beltway.
	I pulled over on the Beltway.
	No one's going to stop.
	I mean, odds are no one is going to stop unless you get out with a flare and start to weigh people in.
	So, based on your funny story, the funny thing is, it's in Sin City in Las Vegas, you know.
	So, where the last thing people want to do is help.
	But, I mean, when you're telling that story, I already heard similar things.
	I would say that man was enlightened by God to make that stop.
	Yeah.
	He was enlightened.
	Sometimes people send God sends people to me.
	Sometimes I'm the vehicle that God uses to people.
	And I don't, you know, the way I think it works is, you know, God gives the thought the impulse.
	And you make a choice whether to act on it or not.
	So I think God gave that man an impulse.
	Check on this car.
	Even though I don't think he does it every car that's pulled over, I doubt it.
	Check on this car.
	There was an impulse.
	And then if he was a God-fearing man, maybe as part of serving his neighbor, he wanted to.
	So God, I think from what you told me, God saw the state you were in.
	And out of his love for you, because he knows that your soul is not bad, that you will choose for him if you get out of that difficult place you were in, then you will make the right choice.
	And here you are calling on the show of a man who very zealously chose for Christ not very long ago.
	Well, I won't take too much more of your time, but I just wanted to mention: I bought recently I bought three acres of land here.
	Oh, nice.
	Kind of out in the country, and I want to start a little homestead type situation and have a house on it, or is it just not yet?
	Not yet.
	It's just land.
	I'm kind of slowly working towards getting the money to get a house built on it.
	But it's, you know, it's like I got all this ready and just in time for it to be auctioned off for reparations.
	You know, when Kamala Harris gets it.
	You know, well.
	So then, therefore, build something like really ugly with no AC or like heat.
	So they don't want to take it.
	But only bad news I can tell you is from my limited stint in construction that the price of lumber has like doubled.
	So now I've had a couple of quotes in the last month or so.
	It's a little bit.
	And they were saying like $200 a square foot.
	You know, one thing I've heard a little trend is building a metal house, like a metal outside, and then the wood is only on the inside.
	So you may have a couple of options there.
	But yeah, hey, congratulations on the land.
	I hope I can follow in your footsteps soon to get out of my mom's place.
	All right.
	Well, thanks.
	Have a good night, man.
	Okay, buddy.
	Bye-bye.
	Yep.
	Bye-bye.
	God sends you people.
	God sends you people.
	When you need help, if you look back in your life and look when you were really down, chances are something happened to get you out of that in a way that you can't really explain.
	Now, when you're in the secular mind frame, you think it's just luck.
	Well, if you believe in God, there is no luck.
	You know, God doesn't go to Vegas to roll the dice on his creatures.
	So that's it.
	Hello, caller.
	You're now live.
	Hey, Bruce, how are you?
	How's it going?
	And where are you calling from?
	Well, I'm calling from North Idaho.
	North Idaho.
	That's basically.
	But I'm not from here.
	It is base.
	Yeah.
	I'm from California, though.
	Okay.
	North Idaho.
	You know, I think there's like a movement of people to move to Idaho.
	I'm hearing about it.
	Yeah, there's definitely a lot of people that are moving here, especially from Cali and the West Coast and Washington and a lot of the liberal areas.
	No, don't worry.
	Before they move there, they're going to repent of all their old ways and then come to Idaho, you know, very conservative, Christian.
	They're not going to bring any of their baggage.
	I'm sure it's going to be fine.
	No, no, they won't.
	Actually, it's people like that that are the reason why they hate people from Cali out here.
	And they really do.
	That's not just a meme.
	I'll tell you, as somebody from California that moved here four months ago, it's absolutely real.
	Not that I blame them, really, but yeah, that's definitely.
	Is that a common thing?
	Have you heard a lot of people from California starting to move out?
	Because I've seen a couple of news articles, but it's hard to know if it's really happening or not.
	Yeah, it is really happening.
	And, you know, the people that live not just in Idaho, but a lot of these other states that Californians are fleeing to, they're well aware of it.
	I thought it was kind of a meme when I moved out here.
	I was like, oh, okay, yeah, sure.
	Californians are considered unwelcome.
	But no, it's really true.
	You see people with decals on their trucks that say, like, if you're from California, F all, you know, stuff like that.
	That's real.
	And I've been actually run off the road a few times.
	I had to change my plates as soon as I moved here basically because of that.
	So it's serious.
	Man, that's great.
	I need to move there now.
	I'm not joking.
	It is nice.
	It's a change of pace for sure.
	And I like the fact that it's somewhat minimally compliant with the COVID laws.
	Actually, I'm surprised at how many people out here are compliant with it.
	I would say, you know, I don't wear a mask ever.
	That's one of the reasons why I left home, actually.
	Because I used to have a pretty good job as a bartender.
	I mean, it wasn't like high status or anything like that, but I made decent money.
	I had an active social life and all this stuff.
	This is kind of why I'm calling, by the way.
	And then as soon as the COVID lockdowns hit, that was all over.
	I didn't want to go along with the mask thing.
	So I became kind of like, it just put a lot of stress on me.
	I was basically an outcast.
	And so I moved.
	I had a friend up here who lived a few miles away who runs a moving company.
	So now I load and unload trucks for a living up in North Idaho.
	It's a total change in my life.
	And it's completely like, you know, sent me into sort of a different situation.
	And I'm not really, you know, the reason why I'm calling is because, you know, it's kind of weird.
	Like, I feel like my whole world was just turned upside down.
	I know a lot of people have been affected negatively by the COVID thing, but I feel like in my case, it's like it hurts especially bad because I had a good job at a bar.
	Everyone liked me.
	I was a popular guy.
	And then all of a sudden, boom, just everything's gone.
	And now I'm loading and unloading trucks in a state that everyone hates me because of where I'm from.
	So what are you using?
	What approach are you using to get through these huge changes that have happened to you?
	I haven't had any approach.
	I've just been trying to roll with the crashing waves.
	Do you think that's going?
	Do you think you can roll with crashing waves if you don't have a surfboard?
	Absolutely not.
	So what is your problem then?
	So, what is the ultimate problem here?
	Well, that is the problem.
	I mean, that is the problem.
	I don't have God in my life, and I don't have like a surfboard to hang on to, really.
	I mean, I'm trying my best.
	I'm trying to keep my head above the water.
	And your strength on your own.
	Yeah, okay, maybe you'll survive 2020, maybe even 2021.
	But at some point, your own flesh strength is just not going to get you there.
	It's just not.
	So, unless you have, I mean, unless you get on the spiritual path and get on it soon, you're going to falter.
	You're just going to drown.
	You know, you're just going to drown.
	But you can't force someone to take up the faith if they're not there yet, if they have some kind of blockage.
	I would guess usually, I don't know you, but usually if someone who's there's a blockage to the faith, it's because they're participating in a sin that they want to keep doing.
	That's usually what the case is.
	And the sin could be just to think of yourself as God, to think of yourself as being having the strength to carry on and to deal with problems.
	So, I don't know you, and I'm not qualified to guide you on that front.
	But how do you think?
	I mean, do you think, oh, one question I can ask you: do you think the country is going to, from this point on, from the from the time that we're talking today on November 27th, 2020, the United States is going to get better or worse?
	Worse.
	Okay.
	So, if you're already, you know, having difficulty dealing with changes, and you should, I mean, there's all the changes you've made, even just changing states with keeping the same job is hard enough.
	If things are going to get worse and worse, and I think we all know how worse it's going to get, it's going to get real bad.
	How are you going to make it through based on no approach, even a secular approach of, let's say, coffee?
	I don't know.
	Let's just make up something.
	This caffeine gets me through the day.
	I have energy.
	With no approach, how are you going to make it through?
	So, I guess the obvious answer is you are not.
	So, are you just going to keep going until you just have a mental breakdown?
	That's a very good point.
	Well, I'll just add this: you know, I had this, I started drinking again when I moved here.
	I was sober for like a year before that.
	I mean, I've had alcohol problems in the past, and you know, right when I got here and I moved in with a friend for the first few weeks before I found my own place, but yeah, we, you know, he handed me a beer within five minutes of me arriving here, and yeah, and I drank, and that's been a problem since because I don't, it's just a way of kind of coping, I guess, with everything that's been going on.
	And when you drink, do you drink during the day or at nighttime?
	Uh, I usually don't drink before like five, but I still drink a lot and I drink like every day.
	So, it's how many hours how many hours of relief does the alcohol give you?
	Um, like, I guess maybe the last like six hours of the day is when I, you know, can indulge in that, and I feel kind of a relief of that.
	Is this something that you think in the long term you'll be able to keep up that every day for the rest of your life or six hours at the end of the day, which is just a quarter of your entire day, that that's going to be a reliable?
	Okay.
	Um, so one question I want to ask you is: do you believe in God?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Have you tried talking to him?
	Not in a long time.
	Okay, good.
	So, tech, so I have some good news.
	You just have to talk to him.
	And when I started talking to him, he did answer me immediately, immediately.
	From the time I, you know, really made the effort to pray to him in a serious way, not making up a prayer, but you can make up things too.
	But in a serious way, how the church wants me to pray, he answered that same night.
	Same night.
	My life changed.
	So I think the advice for you, I'm not going to tell you not to drink or this or that.
	Advice for you is to ask God for the help that you think that you need.
	And if you don't know how to pray, well, thankfully, there is a lot of places to help.
	But the one that I used to help me is orthodoxprayer.org.
	And it lays it out.
	It tells you how.
	I mean, you know, now you can learn anything these days.
	You can learn how to pray too.
	So I think I see what, I mean, I see a lot of me in you because when I was faced with a great difficulty when my sister died, do you know what I started doing?
	I started to drink every day.
	And it would give me like a couple hours at night of just, you know, my mind was shut off.
	It felt really good.
	But as you know, I think that lasted maybe six months or so or maybe less than that.
	I just couldn't keep on going.
	I saw this.
	This wasn't solving the root problem.
	And the root problem was I couldn't put my sister's death and my life in context.
	It made no sense.
	It made no sense because I didn't have God.
	So that's what I would say to you.
	I think for you, you have a spiritual problem.
	I mean, yeah, moving, people running you off the road, drinking.
	Yeah, all that.
	Those are problems too.
	But the root of the problem is you're not allowing God to work with you to do what you need to do.
	Okay, well, that makes sense.
	Yeah.
	So, but the first couple steps is hard because there's a reason you're counting on the bottle instead of the God who made you.
	You know, there's some pride there.
	I don't know.
	Again, I don't know your life.
	There's something there.
	There's some things there that are blocking you.
	Satan has you in some way.
	Satan has you in somewhere else.
	You would be already there.
	So I don't know.
	There's going to be, there's going to be hurdles.
	It's not just for me, I was so defeated.
	I was in such a humble state because I had so much grief.
	I think God immediately came in because I was mentally and spiritually ready to receive him.
	I don't know if you're in a humble state or not, but if you're calling me, talking to me on the phone and you're being open about your problems and what you think is wrong, I think it sounds to me that you're in a humble state.
	And if you start to pray and, you know, pray with your heart, not so much to receive benefits of this world.
	I'm praying to God because I want my life better, but just praying to him to really give you this meaning in life, to understand what you're supposed to do here and now until you meet him.
	I think he's going to answer you fast.
	Okay.
	That makes sense.
	If I could comment on one more thing, you mentioned earlier about leaving.
	I mean, you use this in the context of leaving the country for comfort reasons and how that's bad.
	And I agree with that.
	I can't help but compare what your intention was there with what I've done, which is leaving a liberal part of the country for a more conservative.
	We've all done it.
	And I don't – yeah, I don't have – the thing is I don't have kids or a wife or a family that I needed to move here for the purpose of their benefits.
	So I feel like what I've done is almost similar.
	Like I'm chasing the comfort of being in a more, you know, in a red state, which it's not 100% comfortable.
	It's just to trade off.
	Like there are things, there are things about the blue state lifestyle that I still miss, like having, you know, food that's good or whatever, stuff like that.
	So I'm just wondering, like, did I take comfort?
	Is that what, you know, should I consider that as, you know, in the future, maybe I should go back and help people fight for what's right there?
	I don't know.
	I kind of feel like I'm leaving people in the lurch.
	Okay, so one thing I would ask you: is there a duty that you left?
	Is there something that you should be doing that you say, I don't want to do this anymore?
	Is it maybe taking care of your parents?
	Well, not a duty, no.
	I mean, my parents, unfortunately, are like, you know, when I talk to them on the phone, they're like, oh, are you wearing a mask?
	You know, stuff like that.
	You know, but they're old, so I can't really expect much out of them.
	Because, I mean, it's easy to say don't leave for comfort, but I'm not in California.
	So, you know, that's like the one state.
	But I think once I would wait, I wouldn't make any more moves now.
	I would get your faith worked out first and then see what God wants you to do after that.
	Because I mean, I got my faith started to work it out in Eastern Europe, in Poland.
	And then pretty quickly, I realized after I turned to God that I have no reason to be there.
	There isn't a point.
	So I am in the process still even of moving into my own place in the Washington, D.C. area or somewhat close to it.
	So I wouldn't make any further moves.
	Stay where you are for now.
	Work out the faith.
	Work out why aren't you talking to God and can you start?
	And what is the blockage there that a priest could help you out with?
	Because this is a there is a blockage there.
	I can't explain it, but I can't bring myself to address God.
	Talk to a priest.
	Talk to a priest.
	Let's see what he thinks.
	You know, first, you may need to talk about God in an intellectual way.
	Like, I believe, but this and that.
	But to pray, I think if you pray, that's a direct line of communication.
	I would start there.
	Even you can talk to God about God.
	There is a blockage.
	God, remove, please remove this blockage because I know the path I'm on is not going to serve me.
	So whatever blockage you think you have, ask him to help you with that.
	So talk to him like he can solve this problem because he can.
	So I would, whatever problem you think that's blocking you towards God, ask him to help take it away because you don't want to live in a way that you know is going to fail you.
	Okay.
	Well, thanks a lot for the input.
	I really appreciate it.
	And I hope that things go well with you.
	And if you want to drop me like an update, if you have a follow-up question about churches or things like that, just please do not hesitate to get in touch.
	Okay, I won't.
	Thanks a lot.
	All right, buddy.
	Bye-bye.
	That man's close.
	He is closer than he thinks.
	Closer than he thinks.
	And the way I know this is because with people who are really don't want God, you couldn't even have a conversation like that with them.
	They start to blaspheme God or they wave their hand away, things like this.
	And they just don't even want to talk about it.
	The fact that he stood there and listened to my ideas about what he can do tells me that he is pretty dang close.
	If I hear from him in like a year from now, I wouldn't be surprised if he said he's a catechumen in this church or he got baptized.
	He is very close.
	Okay, I want to take a few more calls.
	Let me use the bathroom first.
	that creepy music going.
	Hey, I'm
	back.
	Still got some call.
	I feel bad for the callers.
	They've been on hold for a while.
	If I could clone myself, I would.
	Okay, enough chat.
	Let's get to it.
	Well, hello, caller.
	You're now live.
	Thank you for holding.
	Hey, Rush, how are you?
	How's it going?
	And where are you calling from?
	I'm calling from Chicago.
	Oh, and Chicago.
	That's a bad place.
	Yep.
	It is.
	So I'm actually in suburbs right now.
	It's a little bit better.
	Originally from Russia, I met you at a tour that you did in Chicago.
	Yep.
	Nice.
	I'm the guy that walked with you afterwards.
	Okay.
	If you're if you remember, you did what again?
	Say that again?
	I walked with you.
	Right now, yeah, you walk with me to my car in the garage.
	To your car.
	Yeah, okay, good.
	Yep.
	Yep, yep.
	So, how have you been doing since then?
	I'm okay.
	I mean, I'm better now.
	I think the city had sucked the life out of me, the soul.
	And so I moved actually back with my parents when the quarantine started.
	And, you know, since then, feel much better.
	Good.
	The city really does a trick on a person.
	It's, for the lack of a better word, is so evil that anything that I consider, you know, holy in me is just was gone.
	Yes.
	So I'm, yeah, it's suburbs is a little better, but the reason I actually, you know, gave you a call is just to be in kind of under the rubric of the comfort living.
	So my parents, my father, you know, came here 20 years ago.
	And the reason he did that is to actually learn more about God.
	So he had a personal quest for the truth for God.
	And he said that coming to America opened a lot of knowledge and information and people that he would not have access to back in Russia.
	He may be the only man outside of like a priest to come to America to get closer to God.
	God bless him.
	Yes.
	And he is very open about that.
	And the second reason he came here is because he was tired of dishonest living.
	Because in Russia, he was in charge of a science laboratory and he had to wash money in order just to pay his staff.
	And so, I mean, it's not always that, and I find other, because I'm in touch with all the, you know, with the Russian community here.
	And, you know, people do come here for various reasons.
	And most of the reasons are for their children, because they want to have, you know, better life for their children.
	And what do they really mean when they say a better life?
	You know, is that, does that mean they want a higher standard of living or is it to get away from some kind of persecution or war?
	For me, like, I can just tell you, my own mom and dad, they wanted like a better life for me, but it turns out it's really just getting a job.
	That's what it really meant to them.
	So, well, I mean, they talk about opportunities.
	So when they do talk about opportunities, I am supposing it is business opportunities and in terms of education.
	But yeah, like it's a good question, like, why do you need education?
	Well, in order to get a higher paying job, have family.
	But I mean, these are still good reasons, I think, if you want to have a better job so you can support your family and have children.
	But at the same time, I see the younger Russian people when they grow up here, many of them are drug addicts and many of them just plain old Americans with the same habits.
	So perhaps the parents make this, I don't want to say pilgrimage, but made this sacrifice to come here.
	But their kids just grow up just like they're, just like American children, with the same degenerate degeneracy and decadence.
	It happened to me, right?
	I mean, my, you know, and when I say people are leaving for comfort, I'm not trying to judge people.
	My mom and dad came here.
	I'm glad they did or else I wouldn't be here now.
	But I'm just trying to, we just have to examine for us now.
	Our parents already made their choices and so on.
	But for us, if we're thinking of leaving our country or where we're from, we really have to dig deep into why.
	Is it a spiritual reason or a material one?
	So if our decision is 100% material, it's probably the wrong choice.
	But if it's, you know, this country, the economy is going down, it's persecuting Christians, it's an evil place, and there's another country where the Christian community I can join is better, it's healthier, my wife is from there or something like that, then it starts to make sense.
	So do you understand what I'm trying to get at?
	Yes, yes, I do.
	I guess, yeah, it depends for what reasons.
	And yeah, if it's materialistic, then I can see your point that it is not serving some higher purpose.
	I mean, I'll be honest with you.
	I talked to, you know, I talked to my Russian schoolmates back in Russia when I went to school there.
	And many of them, they do consider themselves Orthodox, but they're not practicing and they are borderline atheists, but they do consider themselves Orthodox.
	Armenian church has that, too.
	Yeah, and I fall in that bracket as well, because I was just talking to my school friend, and I'm like, hey, I kind of told him my views.
	He's like, well, you're actually not far from all the Russians.
	Just like an average Russian person feels the same way.
	And so, I mean, I don't know where I was going with this, but it's just very inspiring to me to hear about your turnarounds, because every time I kind of look at your example, it always reminds me of Father Seraphim Rose, the American convert to Orthodoxy, not just because of your looks, but also because of your just thirst for orthodoxy and truth.
	Yeah, I mean, I think if you've been following me for a long time, you know, I've always been on this quest of truth, but unfortunately, I let my lust interfere with it.
	So it really was a blockage in terms of it tainted the truth I could see.
	Because when your mind is clouded with passions, the truth you see now is through a filter of a filter.
	It's not the purest form of truth.
	But I can say that when you heard me speak, I mean, during this tour, and I know that Chicago was one of my earlier talks, this was like, I was brand new.
	I was just into the faith, really excited.
	And I knew my life had changed.
	I knew it.
	And I tried to convey in my speech, you know, where I was and how I got here.
	But I was, now I look back at the talk and I'm working on a book where I go through a transcript of the speech.
	And the speech itself, honestly, I talked about banging girls and things like that.
	It's not something that I would want to talk about now.
	But I think I had to give that talk.
	I had to give it because that was like the bridge from that old me to where I am now.
	Well, let me ask you this question because I was a fervent believer before when I was like 18, 19, 20, and then I lost faith.
	And I think I lost faith because I kind of started my intellectual journey, kind of reading everything, researching.
	And I cannot unlearn the fact that God is irrelevant to me.
	Like, what do you say to such a person who just, like, you know, when you learn something, you cannot unlearn it, like, you know the truth.
	Like, for me, the truth is, is that I found that, you know, I don't want to say there is no God, but I'm saying, like, God became irrelevant to me.
	Like, what do you say to such a person?
	Like, and I'm not even interested in that regard.
	Like, the only reason, like, when I do talk about faith is when it's like orthodoxy, because it's like so culturally relevant to me.
	So it's more from an intellectual standpoint.
	Intellectual and also from the cultural perspective, because I do respect orthodoxy.
	And I occasionally go to a Russian Orthodox church here in Chicago.
	And I do read books by like Seraphim Rose.
	He's one of my favorite authors.
	But I lost faith in God and I just consider God irrelevant because I don't see him outside of our outside of our brains.
	I don't see God anywhere present in nature or present in other people.
	I just don't see it anymore.
	For me, it's impossible not to see him everywhere.
	And for you to say that he's not relevant, you are alive right now.
	He's allowing you to stay alive so you are not condemned.
	So your soul is not condemned.
	He's giving you time to wake up.
	It seems to me that a lie of Satan has burrowed really deep into your soul because that lie is allowing you to believe you're someone that you're not.
	That's what I sense.
	But again, I'm not like an expert.
	I don't know.
	So I can only guess.
	But something about the way you're talking about it, the pride is very heavy.
	It's very heavy pride.
	To say that you don't see God when you look outside, you look at the trees, the bird, the animals, all that is possible within the world to say you don't see God.
	To me, that is pride.
	Now, how to fix that?
	You know, I don't know.
	It's do you want it to be fixed?
	Do you want to believe that?
	I do not.
	Yeah, so okay, so I think we have to start there.
	Why don't you want to believe?
	What does believing in your lie, believing in what Satan has given you, Satan has given you this lie?
	What is it allowing you to do?
	Is it allowing you to think you're your own God?
	Is it allowing you to think you're some kind of special person, a smart person?
	What is it allowing you to do that you want to hang on to it?
	So it's basically you're like you like the trash that you're swimming in.
	So you're in trash, let's just say.
	You're in trash.
	It stinks.
	And I'm saying, hey, I want to give you a bath, soap.
	You're going to be clean.
	And you're telling me, no, I want, I like this trash.
	So why do you like it?
	But I don't think it's, I don't think I'm swimming in trash.
	And from the spiritual perspective, you can see why I would say that.
	If someone.
	Oh, no, I understand it.
	Yes.
	Okay, how about not trash?
	But in the darkness, right?
	So it's dark where you are.
	You can't see.
	I'm trying to give you a lie.
	You say, no, I don't want to see this light.
	I want to continue being in darkness.
	Sure.
	I was reading in Paul's letters, he mentions how you are either a slave of God or you're a slave of Satan.
	Well, when I read that, I had almost like a mini breakdown because my intellect told me that either way, I'm going to be a slave.
	And I heavily resisted that from an intellectual point of view.
	I said to myself, I don't want to be a slave of neither of those.
	I don't want to be a slave of God.
	I don't want to be a slave of Satan.
	But he was just, okay, when he said to be a slave to God, what he was really saying is being a voluntary slave, voluntary, in the sense of using your slave.
	You don't want to be a voluntary slave.
	Okay, but you are a slave right now.
	You're a slave to Satan right now.
	He has your soul.
	He owns it.
	You're his slave.
	But that's my problem with Christianity.
	Go ahead.
	No, so I think you think I'm free because I'm using my intellect, but this is an idea.
	This is an idea that Satan gave you.
	You're either a slave to Satan or through your own free will and through love, through you're voluntarily, you want to do that.
	You're serving God because by serving him, you're going to live in the best way possible in the way that is healthiest for you.
	You're going to get out of the darkness, out of the trash.
	So again, I'm not qualified to deal with the kind of spiritual issue that you have, but I'm just trying to say what I sense out of you.
	You've made an idol out of your intellect, out of your mind.
	It seems like you've made your mind this thing which is all giving is the purpose that you are here.
	Like you've made a God out of your mind.
	It seems.
	It seems.
	Well, I mean, if I would to summarize, I would say that my purpose in life became to open up my consciousness and to understand more and learn more.
	And God got into in a way because God confined me because I was not able to go into this intellectual journeys and take these leaps of intellect when I was delving into different subjects.
	And for me, God was a limit.
	And yeah.
	When you look at Father Seraphim Rose and you see the books that he wrote, I don't know how many books.
	Does it seem to you that God limited his intellectual ability?
	If anything, from my point of view, it seems to have enhanced it.
	I mean, he is right now, his work, even for men like me, for men who are alive right now, has connected so many dots, connecting not just the material world, but the spiritual.
	He kind of, he really unlocked a lot of doors for a lot of people.
	So, I mean, did you ever come to a conclusion that God stopped him?
	That God, he would have been smarter.
	He would have been a scientist or something.
	I came to the conclusion that his faith was to help him come to terms with his abnormality.
	Because if you read health, God healed his abnormality.
	God healed it.
	Yeah, I had something like this too.
	God healed it.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	But you see, if faith helps him, that's great.
	But as far as healing myself, I don't know if I need to be healed.
	Because, for example, when I'm with the woman that loves me, that's a healing to me.
	And she believes in God, but great.
	And she always tries to convince me to believe in God.
	But I'm like, I can't.
	It's impossible for me.
	Can you try?
	Have you tried to ask God about this?
	I can't.
	For me, it would be committing an intellectual suicide to talk to God.
	I used to.
	And I even had like, how should I say, like, out of, not out of body experience, but I had like experiences like spiritual rebirth, I guess.
	But then when I started learning about other religions, I started talking to other people who, you know, from different experiences.
	And that slowly eroded my faith in God.
	And believe me, I used to be like witnessing for Christ, give out brochures at work, about testimony about Christ and so forth.
	And then I just lost faith.
	And to be honest with you, I have no, I'm not eager, but when I see a person like yourself who is kind of going back to his roots, and that kind of, you know, I don't want to say makes me question, but it turns some wheels in my head as far as what is going on.
	Why?
	You know, I really wish that I was spiritually advanced enough to help you.
	I just, I think I see the problem a bit.
	I think you've made like an idol out of yourself, an idol.
	You've made an idol of what the thoughts in your mind tell you to do.
	But, you know, as you know, in the Orthodox Church, not all thoughts are ours.
	A lot of them are sent by demons.
	And if we grab on those thoughts and think it's ours, then we can fall into deception.
	So I think that's your problem.
	And don't get offended that I think that is.
	But I don't know how to solve that, honestly.
	I mean, I'm just, my faith started in a simple way.
	I was just in grief.
	I just needed help.
	I called out to God.
	And since then, I've been there.
	But this seems to me like a case where your heart is very hard.
	It's hard.
	I don't know why, but I agree.
	Yeah, I hope, you know, and I wish, I hope that you talking to me is a first step that you talk to other people too, other people connected to the church that who can do much better than me.
	But I wouldn't give up because I hope there's a part of you inside your heart that you can feel that, hey, this is, I'm in a danger.
	I'm in a serious danger that dying in this kind of state, a spiritually dead state, you know?
	Yeah, I mean, I would like to be hopeful that there is something after this life.
	And right now, I think I'm in terms that, you know, after this, nothing, but I do understand your point of kind of first step sometimes are the hardest steps.
	And perhaps it is a first step, I don't know.
	But the fact that I guess I'm asked, you know, posing that question.
	But yeah, you're right about the pride.
	I mean, the ancient Holy Fathers knew something when they were talking about pride.
	And in Orthodoxy, they have a concept called prelist.
	And I'm sure you're familiar with that.
	And I think that's exactly what you're referring to.
	But I don't want to take too much of your time.
	I just want to say, Ruth, that you've been very inspiring.
	For some reason, you have this gift of connecting things and making a sense out of it in simple terms.
	And I think that's what's valuable to us because I talk to other people that listen to you.
	And for us, it's just the way you formulate it.
	That's what helps us to understand things.
	So I appreciate your work.
	And just one more thing.
	I just would tell you just not just not to give up.
	Not to give up.
	Maybe now it's just hard for you, but don't give up.
	As you know, this is a spiritual battle.
	It's going to go on and on.
	So don't give up.
	And just keep in touch with me and let me know how things are going.
	But continue to reach out to people.
	Just talk to them.
	I think this is good so you can talk to people.
	But you have a lot of work and battling in front of you.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I agree.
	Well, thank you so much for taking my call.
	Sure thing.
	God bless you.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	Yeah, I've seen a couple cases like that where, you know, very similar to him.
	And I wish I had the magic words.
	It's very easy when someone is kind of new to the faith and they're ready.
	And then you just give them the first step.
	You have to pray or go to church.
	That's pretty easy.
	That was with me anyway.
	But someone who had faith and lost it, I don't know.
	Just don't know.
	But I hope he can get it back.
	Okay, let's take another call.
	Little caller, you're now live.
	Roof, what's up, buddy?
	What's going on?
	You have like a deep radio voice.
	Oh, cool.
	It's because I have a pro radio mic.
	Okay.
	And where are you calling from?
	I'm in beautiful San Diego, California.
	Are you the guy that does the movie trailers, like the voiceover?
	Because I'm being serious.
	That sounds cool.
	When I had to hire voice actors to record my books, some of the older books, I would have to go through like a hundred male voices to pick a good one.
	So I'd like to think I have an ear for like the voice actor.
	Nice, bro.
	Well, let me talk a little more before you decide if mine's the one for you.
	Sounds kind of creepy, but okay.
	But anyway, so what is going on in California?
	Is that where you said?
	Yep, North County, San Diego.
	All right.
	How is it there?
	It's wintertime.
	It's wintertime, so it's like a freezing cold, 62 degrees.
	Oh, nice.
	And sunny.
	And I don't even know what's going on.
	I stay home all the time unless I got to go out for some supplies, which is rare or walk the dog.
	Do you live with a mom and dad?
	There's a lot of boomers in MAGA hats.
	Okay.
	No.
	No, but I am laid off from COVID.
	Oh, all right.
	Yeah.
	I can just say that to engineering type of work.
	I see.
	I can say to the people that I went to San Diego.
	I was in San Diego last year, and it was the best Californian city I was in, which doesn't say a whole lot, but it wasn't that bad.
	I mean, I was told when I was there, oh, Rush, you didn't see it, but there's like homeless camps and so on.
	But when my little trip there, just going through the center, it seemed better, way better than LA.
	Oh, it's so much better.
	It's a whole different world.
	If you go to the downtown in San Diego, the homeless are all over the place.
	Still not as bad as LA.
	But the thing is, San Diego is mostly sprawled out into the you would call it suburbs, I guess, but it's just like little beach communities all over the place, and they're very cool and very conservative and based out here.
	I mean, it's mostly boomers and kind of rich people.
	A lot of hippies, I guess, but not a lot of super liberal Democrat types.
	Okay, good.
	So it's all right.
	A lot of Mexicans.
	I'm sure.
	I'm sure.
	So what is going on?
	Yo, big fan, by the way.
	And thank you for all you're doing.
	It's been very cool watching it go on.
	I tried to meet up with you in San Diego when you were here, but it didn't work out.
	But anyway, yeah, what's going on?
	I want to ask you a question that's like a theological Bible question because I'm not, I like to ask this one to Christians, but I don't know any Orthodox.
	So I wanted to see what's your take on it.
	So if you don't mind, then I'll ask you.
	So when Jesus was traveling with his disciples, right, he was teaching them the gospel and training them to preach it.
	And it's the Evangelion, right?
	Latin or Greek.
	So they were traveling around the cities in the area there around Galilee and then all the way up to Jerusalem.
	And they're preaching the gospel.
	What is the gospel?
	What were they preaching?
	That's my question.
	Who?
	Now, the apostles with Christ?
	What were they all saying?
	Jesus and his disciples, the evangelists, when they were traveling around, they were doing healing miracles, but they were also preaching and teaching people and gathering multitudes.
	What is the gospel message that Jesus was teaching and telling them to teach?
	This is a two-part question, by the way, because after you hear this one, I want to see you have a little follow-up, if it's all right.
	This isn't a personal question, the same as the others.
	So I don't know if this is appropriate, but I'm curious for your answer.
	Well, if Christ was alive, see, if the disciples were with Christ, yes, he was teaching, the disciples were teaching on behalf of Christ, right?
	You know, so it's really what was Christ here for?
	Why did Christ come to teach?
	That's kind of what you're asking.
	So why did God became man?
	Why did he come?
	You know, so the simple answer, the one of the most broad, is to save man, to save their souls, to provide a path for man to be saved, because man cannot save himself.
	So Christ came to take on the sins of man so that those who choose for Christ in faith can be saved and have eternal life.
	Okay, so if I hear you right, then they were teaching that if you would believe in Christ.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	I'm just saying, I'm just telling you, I mean, because what you're really asking is why did Christ come?
	Why did God become man?
	That's kind of what you're asking.
	Because I don't care about what the disciples were teaching with Christ.
	That's not important.
	Maybe after he was crucified.
	Yeah, but why are you trying to stress what the disciples were doing when they were with Christ?
	Well, the reason is because Christ was with them and he was teaching them and he was telling them what to teach.
	So it seems like we ought to know what that was.
	It seems like that would be of critical importance for us to understand teaching people stuff.
	Don't we have access to what Christ taught them?
	Because as far as I know, Christ didn't write with his hand what the current gospel, the four gospels.
	So what we read is what the disciples wrote, though Luke, I don't think he was one.
	So we read directly what Christ taught them.
	Okay, so I'll get to the second part then because this leads right into it.
	And this is the reason I'm asking you is because I've noticed an issue, and I'm wondering if you'll see it too.
	When Jesus is with his disciples, they're traveling around teaching one thing, and they're calling it the gospel.
	And then after Jesus is ascended and Peter and Paul take over, the gospel is something different.
	And that's what the church is built on.
	Something different than what Jesus was teaching.
	And I think that's what is the difference.
	Well, when Jesus was traveling and teaching, we have examples of what the teaching was in things like the Sermon on the Mount or other discussions that he has in private with his disciples.
	And what he's teaching them is about the gospel of the kingdom.
	And that's what he calls it.
	And the gospel of the kingdom is taught in ways like this, where he says, blessed are the meek.
	Blessed are those who are poor in spirit.
	Blessed are the peacemakers.
	If you forgive, then you will receive forgiveness.
	He teaches about the fruits of the Spirit.
	He's basically teaching about connection with the Father and then gaining access to the Father's love and sharing that love with each other.
	And he gives his great commission two commandments, love God and love your brethren the way I've loved you.
	And that's the gospel message.
	He's saying, I'm going to build a spiritual family of believers who are not interested in the way of the world.
	In fact, they despise the world.
	The world is satanic.
	You're going to get connected, reconnected with God's way, which this world was disconnected from during the rebellion.
	You're going to reconnect to my Father, and I'm demonstrating that for you.
	And in fact, if you've known me, you've known the Father because I'm a living example of living his will.
	And I want you guys to do the same thing.
	And if you all do that and love each other the way I'm showing you how to love, we're going to retake this planet and we're going to spread it to all nations.
	This is going to be God's new kingdom on the earth.
	So that's when we have to depart.
	We don't interpret him as saying we're going to take over the nation.
	This is an interpretation.
	Well, he said, okay, the Orthodox Church, all its church fathers and saints, does not interpret it in that manner.
	But since I'm a part of that church, I take their interpretation because who am I to interpret the Bible?
	But that said, one comment I wanted to add, you said there was a difference like after he was crucified.
	Christ did say that he would send the Holy Spirit to teach, right?
	So a lot of what was learned came from the Holy Spirit.
	So if you're only taking what Christ said, well, that's kind of going against him because he said that the Holy Spirit would be the teacher too.
	So we have to account for the teachings of the Holy Spirit through the disciples and through, hey, the Holy Spirit, I think you would agree, still works in the present time, right?
	So he's taught in, at least in the Orthodox Church, they've taught the saints.
	They've enlightened the saints and the holy fathers too.
	So I kind of see what you're saying, but I can't agree with it.
	Yeah, that's fair.
	Yeah.
	an orthodox perspective is definitely different because really i mean we that's kind of my point Go ahead.
	Well, yeah, you know, just to bring up a point of contention, not to argue or say anybody's wrong, but I just noticed that there's a lot of times when I'm meeting Christians, they seem to have faith in the institution, which is even what I is sort of what you're reflecting to me now is like you believe in the church is sort of what I heard.
	Like, who am I to interpret the Bible?
	I have to go by what Orthodoxy tells me it means.
	And I get it, but then it's like we have faith in the establishment or faith in these saints and priests who I don't know them.
	I don't have personal contact.
	I can read what they wrote.
	But it's I have faith in the institution versus an actual, like, what if that institution got off track back at the beginning?
	Okay.
	And that's what it seems to me like what happened.
	So it seems to me that when Peter and Paul got real actively involved, the gospel got turned into the gospel of the risen Christ, where it's about if you worship him and surrender to him and now he's the atonement of your sins.
	It seems like it got turned into that after Jesus had been ascended.
	Now, I can come to the agreement that church is the institution itself.
	It's run by human beings.
	It's flawed.
	It could go wrong.
	But there's a system in place, at least in the Orthodox Church, if you go off course to get back on course.
	But it's too much of a stretch to say that the entire church with all the saints, all the holy fathers, all you know, all of them, they're all wrong.
	And I'm not saying you're saying this, but they're all wrong.
	But I figured it out with the Bible.
	So I've encountered that.
	And that, again, I'm not saying you're saying that, but if they're wrong, you would have to go and, I guess, make your argument why.
	But I'm not even sure, you know, with the Peter and Paul that they changed things.
	I don't know from what.
	So I guess you would have to make the argument on what Christ intended versus the wrong practice that is being done currently, right?
	So that would be the argument.
	But maybe it's possible that the things that you think are wrong, the Orthodox Church doesn't do, or maybe as a concession to human weakness, they've allowed humans to do.
	One example is, I know Christ said you cannot divorce unless it was a case of infidelity.
	But the Orthodox Church in their concession has allowed people to get a divorce and to remarry again.
	So this is something that, okay, that's a point of argument that you can make.
	And I could agree with you.
	Like, yeah, I mean, I intend not to marry a woman who got divorced when infidelity wasn't involved.
	So that's something that I could.
	meet you halfway with.
	But in terms of from the very early days of the church, you know, I think Martin Luther, he came on the scene and him and his reformers, which were mostly lawyers, they basically wiped out, you know, the church never was correct.
	The entire, no one had it right, but we're here on the scene and we got it.
	You know, that kind of thing, I think it takes a lot away from the early Christians.
	I've read a lot of the writings from them.
	And, you know, I've been astounded by their faith, how strong, how strong it was.
	But I do see your point.
	And a lot of Protestants, I don't know if you are, but a lot of Protestants in the United States, they have an issue with any kind of church institution.
	They just hate it.
	They hate the fact that an institution contains what Christ gave freely, man to man, speaking to.
	But I see the institution itself as a guardian.
	I think if you don't have that guardian, then you get what you have in, say, the United States, all these denominations, thousands of them.
	And a lot of them, I'm sure I don't have to tell you, you've seen gay flags on churches or Black Lives Matter signs on churches.
	Without a good, strong guardian, even if you have the pure truth, it can get twisted.
	Satan can twist it.
	So that's the argument that I would say.
	Yeah, that's a good take.
	I think you're right.
	My perspective is becoming like this, just for sharing's sake.
	It's like all these people you're talking about who have faith, I think they're so epic.
	Like I have utmost respect for anybody with faith in God.
	If you're connecting with God's spirit, I think even if your theology or your doctrine, your concepts in your mind, for whatever reason, aren't 100% accurate, I think that doesn't actually matter that much if you've spiritually connected with God and his grace and you've become someone who's exhibiting those fruits of the spirit of love and kindness and patience and understanding and forgiveness and all those things that are the opposite of the spirit of selfishness,
	which is really like Satan's spirit on the world.
	And so when people are waking up to God's spirit, that's to me, I think that's what matters the most.
	And I'm not talking about just salvation, but I just mean like it's changing the world because we're in a state that needs to be like redeemed.
	But as far as getting the church, like the body of Christ, if you want to call it that, or the reconstitution of connection with God's kingdom on our planet, I don't think that we've seen it yet.
	Like the institution that's going to do that, I don't think the church we've seen so far, I think it's more like a time capsule that's carried Christ's spirit and his teachings forward into the future for us.
	But I wonder myself a little bit off at the beginning.
	You haven't?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm, you know, I'm a modern man with a modern.
	So when Christ said, my church will not fall, what was he talking about?
	Can you reference the conversation that that's from?
	Oh, boy.
	Do I know what you mean?
	Let me see.
	Fine, I'll google it.
	Let's see.
	You're making me work.
	Bible.
	You don't have it all memorized, bro.
	Come on.
	No, I don't.
	I don't.
	Okay.
	Sure, someone in the chat can help me out, but help me out right now.
	All right.
	This was, I believe, in Matthew.
	He says, he was talking to the disciples with Peter.
	He says, on this rock I will build my church on this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
	Now, that's actually a verse that the Catholics use to say that their church is the one true church.
	And I'm not giving that argument.
	But what Christ is saying is, I'm establishing a church now, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
	So that implies that from the time he was, that the church started to now, there is a church that is Christ's church.
	So now the Catholics say it's theirs, the Orthodox say it's theirs.
	That's not an argument that I care to make right now.
	But if, let's say, I believe that this verse is true, that Christ was not wrong, then that means there was a church that has continued from the time of the apostles to now.
	So really, there's only two options, in my opinion.
	It's the Catholic Church or the Orthodox Church.
	If you're a Protestant, then you're going to have to run some circles to justify why for the first, say, 1,500 years after Christ, there wasn't a church that provided his word.
	And that suddenly in 1500, a bunch of lawyers figured it out.
	So that's, I mean, that's a tough sell to a person like me.
	Well, check this out, Rouge V. If you take this verse that you just gave me and look at the context of the conversation that's happening there, Jesus had just asked his disciples, whose interpretation are you using right now to say this?
	To say this?
	Because when I'm speaking that verse, I am speaking to you what the church has taught me.
	So when you're saying, wait, if you check out the context, where are you getting that from?
	Is it your interpretation?
	Oh, I'm just saying, like, well, you're reading, you're reading verse 18.
	I'm like, if you could jump back to 15 and read 15, 16, 17, 18, you'll see the conversation that's happening there.
	And you'll know.
	No, I don't see anything.
	Only what the Orthodox church tells me.
	They've taught me about what this verse means.
	I don't have an opinion.
	I don't have an opinion.
	I apply.
	I read the Bible with my mind, and I look at what my Orthodox study Bible says it means.
	I don't interpret it.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Because who am I?
	I mean, you have the words of Christ right there.
	You're not interested in what he says.
	Where did the words of Christ come from?
	Who assembled the Bible?
	Did it come from the air?
	Was it written magically like the Muslim Quran, the Quran was written in heaven and just descended down.
	The Bible was assembled by the church.
	Members of the church gave us the Bible.
	They are intertwined.
	You cannot separate the Bible from the church.
	Trying to do that would be like trying to separate marriage and sex.
	You know, why did God give us sex to have fun?
	No, he gave it within the confines of the marriage.
	When you separate the two, you get some really demonic activity that I participated in.
	So you cannot say that I have to self-interpret a Bible that was given to me by the church and interpreted by the church itself.
	That's my argument.
	I don't interpret it.
	I don't know what it means.
	That's insanity, Roosh.
	That's insane, bro.
	That is pure craziness.
	Is that your argument?
	And I don't mean that in an insulting way, but that's fine.
	This is a big problemo, my bro.
	For who?
	Because for you.
	Why is that?
	Because you are taking a.
	Well, first of all, you're getting the meaning.
	They are giving you the wrong meaning, clearly, and you're not looking into it.
	You're taking the fake news version of the Bible and taking it as gospel.
	No, I'm sorry.
	So where are you getting your interpretation?
	Can I, I mean, who has taught you what the Bible means?
	This 2,000-year-old book that wasn't written in English, that was translated, interpreted.
	Where are you getting your interpretation from?
	Is it from your own mind?
	I guess I have to say yes, I suppose so.
	Do you think it's possible?
	But, but, but if I could follow up, my mind is connected to the Holy Spirit.
	And do you know who your mind can also be connected to?
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	No, you are not an angel.
	Do you know who also has access to your mind?
	Satan does.
	Satan does.
	And as you see.
	Okay.
	So you are a God.
	You are an angel, a saint.
	Even saints, they have to fight temptations from Satan.
	So you are an angel.
	You are an angel living on heaven who doesn't have any demonic thoughts entering your mind.
	Praise someone for me being able to talk to an angel who doesn't get evil thoughts, who Satan has never been able to tempt.
	You are above the saints.
	You are above the apostles, even the apostles.
	They were tempted.
	Christ had to tell Peter, get behind me, Satan, when Peter was tempted.
	You are above them.
	How lucky am I to speak to a man who only the Holy Spirit is working through?
	That's amazing.
	Dude, all sarcasm aside, I'm a son of God.
	And so are you.
	Right.
	But you see where we are, right?
	We're not in heaven.
	Okay.
	Right?
	So.
	Whatever voice you hear after that may not be God.
	See, oh man, that almost guarantees you are.
	Sorry to say it.
	That guarantees you are.
	Even saints, even saints complain.
	Well, according to what the Orthodox Church teaches.
	I mean, you can quote saints to me all day, but where are they?
	I mean, where are they?
	If saints are dealing with demons all the time, that kind of makes me not want to trust the saints, bro.
	Sounds like they're kind of like in a weird place if they're constantly getting tempted with demonic thoughts.
	Okay, I'm not here to make you upset.
	Maybe they're not very trusting.
	If I made you upset by saying you're being influenced by Satan, I apologize.
	It's not my job to say you are demonically influenced.
	It isn't.
	So, you know, I'm just The man, no, no, but still, but I want people who are watching to know it's not my job to tell you where your faith is.
	Okay, okay.
	Uh, that said, that's it, and we're not going to meet common common ground, so I don't want to waste too much of people's time who are not entertained by our little chat.
	Uh, but I sense from you a lot of pride.
	Are you not entertained?
	Okay, I think they're cheering, they're loving this.
	No, no, I mean, this is God is not a joke, you know, it isn't a joke.
	So, I mean, I, if you've been listening in, I've given my all to talk to people in a way that God would want me to talk to people.
	So, you, I don't know if you're joking.
	I hope, I kind of hope you are, or if you're seriously trying to make the arguments that you are, which to me, I can just say that I sense a lot of pride.
	Pride is a deadly sin.
	We're taught, you know, not to have this kind of pride.
	Even if you just read the Bible itself, it's pretty clear that pride is going to get you in a lot of trouble.
	And I think if we unpeel the layers of your life, I'm curious, you know, what your beliefs are allowing you to do.
	Because what I, my experience, finds that if someone is far from what the church does teach, there's some sins involved.
	You know, it's allowing you to do something.
	And it's none of my business.
	You don't have to answer.
	I don't want to know.
	But I do sense a lot of pride here.
	But anyway, I did answer you.
	Sure, I did give you answers as far as I understand them.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	Maybe some people whose faith is deeper than mine can say, hey, Rush, you should answer in this way, that way.
	But I gave you the best answers.
	I don't know if you're arguing in good faith.
	I don't know if you really want to come to an understanding or trying to assert your will onto me.
	That's what I sense.
	I don't think you came here to have a conversation.
	I think you tried to play like a gotcha game and it didn't go the way you thought.
	And now I don't know.
	I don't know what you want to do now.
	Oh, man.
	All right.
	Well, all right.
	You sound like you're kind of like wanting to drop it.
	So that's fine.
	No, no.
	I mean, listen, I have a limited amount.
	I can't talk for an hour to each person.
	You know, I think I've been very patient with you.
	I may have talked to you longer than anyone else.
	So.
	All right.
	All right.
	Well, whatever.
	I'm kind of surprised you went to like sarcasm mode and then personal judgment mode.
	That was kind of interesting.
	It's weird that you would do that.
	I didn't expect that.
	I thought that we would just have like kind of logical, rational talk.
	Well, when your intentions aren't good and you are arguing.
	I'm not bad at my intentions, bro.
	I'm not coming at bad faith here.
	I'm trying to talk to you from with a different perspective and maybe we'll debate, but in a helpful way, I think.
	I sense, okay, then if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
	I sense your intent, your intentions in this call.
	They were not good.
	But I was very patient with you.
	And I don't think I've been wrong in the things I've said.
	I think that I think even you would agree that your pride is probably high in order you to make a lot of the claims that you did to be so sure of them to not use any authority except your own self.
	That's the, I mean, to use yourself as an authority, the ultimate authority on the Bible in English without even looking at, say, at least it's so who's your, so who is your authority?
	Who has taught you this?
	Where is your authority?
	Who's your who is your teacher?
	How do you know Christ?
	See, but then when you said you're never, you can never be influenced.
	I don't know.
	It just seems like maybe your faith is different than mine.
	So we're going to have to agree to disagree.
	Wah wah.
	All right.
	Well, nice talking to you.
	All right.
	Take care, buddy.
	Okay.
	Have a good one.
	See ya.
	All right.
	Well, that was fun.
	Yeah, and for everyone, you know, I'm not a priest.
	I'm just a layman.
	So I may not have the best comebacks or the best or the best arguments, but I did sense something was off there.
	And, you know, I hope I was as respectful as I could be to him.
	But he was just making some wild claims, I thought.
	Someone in the chat said, Roosh is much more patient than us.
	Yeah, I mean, I think I like to give people a chance.
	I do want to hear people out.
	I want to see where they're getting, where are they getting this from, you know, and unfortunately, a lot of people, they come to me with the Bible and make all sorts of claims.
	And I don't have to play that game because I'm not a sola scriptura person.
	I don't, you know, whatever the Bible says, I don't interpret it anyway.
	So.
	Hey, let's go to the next caller.
	We're three hours and 37 minutes in.
	Well, just try here.
	Hello, Caller.
	You're now live.
	Oh, hello.
	Hey, what's up?
	Hello.
	And where are you calling from?
	Oh, hi.
	Actually, I am another person from San Diego.
	So I hope I don't say anything too silly.
	You are our second female caller.
	Yes, yes.
	And the second one is all right.
	So what is going on?
	Hello?
	Hello, Caller.
	Oh, yes.
	It cut me off.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	Hey, so how's it going?
	What's up?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I was just, thank you, first of all, for taking my call.
	Actually, I saw you in San Diego when you came here for your talk, and it was very nice to meet you.
	Were you there with your dad?
	Yes.
	Okay, so I know who I am talking to.
	All right.
	Good.
	Nice, nice.
	And thank you for signing the book, lady.
	I definitely appreciate that.
	That was really cool.
	So, anyway, I was, I've really been wondering some things during all of this craziness, right?
	I feel very alone being against masks and seeing through the mirage of the ridiculousness and the lies and such.
	And the problem that I keep coming across is, I mean, I'm hearing on this live stream, you know, men need to find a woman of God.
	And, you know, hopefully God will send them a good woman.
	From a female's perspective, it's gotten pretty bad because when everybody's wearing a mask, I've now noticed that men look at me in fear.
	And I haven't worn a mask since this has gone down.
	And it's very disheartening and disturbing, actually, to try and hope to find a good man when I don't even see them trying to defend themselves, let alone protect or defend me if anything were to go down.
	So I would like to ask your opinion if there are any ways that I can, or any female who feels the way I do about masks and the lie and all the craziness going on.
	How can men reattain their status as protectors and such instead of feeling more like I'm kind of fighting the battle while they're while men are just kind of going along you're in the status quo.
	Well, the one thing I would say is you don't have to worry about what all the men are doing.
	You only need one.
	So I mean there can be 99.9% of men are weak soy boys, but we can't control them and you're not going to deal with them anyway.
	So don't let the mob, the crowd kind of get you down.
	Because as a man, I feel the same way.
	I mean, it's even, in some cases, it's worse if you're a man because not only are the women wearing masks, but they're trying to look sexy too.
	So, I mean, they're trying to still present their sexuality out there.
	And it's like a double dose of, oh, this woman is not the right one.
	So if you use what you see in public, if you use what you see in public to kind of indicate the health of a country, you're going to go crazy.
	I mean, you are just going to lose it.
	Because, I mean, at least in San Diego, you see somewhat Americanized people.
	I mean, can you imagine in Washington, D.C., what I see when I go to a supermarket?
	I don't even know what country I'm in anymore.
	It's just that bad.
	So if I were to use that public scene as a sign of what's going on, I would be depressed too.
	So really, the question is, anyway, and also, you don't want to be meeting men in public or, you know, to have to encourage men in public to approach you with a game and how confident they are.
	That's kind of a false confidence.
	Like, when I was approaching girls, I could present confidence, but how confident was I when I was depending on a woman for all my happiness?
	You know, I think it was a fake kind of, it was something that if you do enough times, you can seem like the smoothest guy ever.
	But it's not, there's no foundation that that confidence is on.
	Because why would you be confident just because you can sleep with some a couple of easy girls?
	So for you, I think the problem is, is where is best for you to meet a man?
	It's not in public.
	So, you know, we got some calls earlier on from guys trying to meet girls, and I believe that the right man will be sent to you while practicing or strengthening your faith in a practical manner, whether it's part of a church or whether it's engaging in fellowship with other Christians, whether it's volunteering for charities, something like this.
	But I don't know what your life is, and you don't, I mean, you don't have to go into it.
	But it seems like what actions does your faith encourage you to do that allow you to feel closer to God?
	And it's probably through those actions and events and situations, environments that, you know, when God is ready to send you a man, it's going to be during those times.
	Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
	That's basically been the mentality I've been running with.
	And I've been hopeful.
	I've been trying not to go crazy with all of the gullibility out there.
	And unfortunately, I actually was in a serious relationship.
	And when all of this stuff went down, in private, he would agree with everything I would say.
	Like, yeah, you know, it's all bull.
	It's all fake.
	It's wrong.
	But in real life, you know, he'd be the first one to put on the mask and obey the social distancing.
	And I realized I could not be with a man who talks the talk, but does not walk the walk.
	And I see that a lot in San Diego.
	But I see what you're saying.
	I see what you're saying.
	Work on myself, have faith, and, you know, hopefully be.
	But when I say to work on yourself, I don't mean that from a, I mean, I don't mean that in a self-improvement type of way because what is yourself?
	Yeah, right.
	But I mean, for a guy to lie and say he's against the mask and then he breaks up with you and he wears it.
	So that means that he was lying to be with you.
	Now, I don't want to know whether you were intimate with him or not.
	But if intimacy was involved, I could see why he would lie because a man, and I'm one, will kind of stretch the truth in order to get you into bed.
	You know, a man will make up stories to get you into bed.
	A man will pretend.
	Now, for me, I had that problem from my girlfriend, my ex-girlfriend.
	She would lie about what she believed in.
	And then it turns out she didn't really believe in those things.
	So I must have been such a good sex, casual sex partner, I guess.
	I mean, even though we were boyfriend, girlfriend.
	But anyway, the point I'm trying to make is passion clouds the mind.
	You know, if you're committing, say, I don't want to, you know, accuse you, but if a man is accusing the sin of lust, what's lying now?
	I mean, I am already in sin, right?
	So really, what you want to see is, you know, how can you create a relationship where there would be no motivation to lie?
	Because I'm serving Christ and I know lying is just going to be damaging to my soul.
	So I think that's going to fix itself when you meet a man of the faith.
	Now, you say confidence a lot.
	It seems like that's important to you.
	Like you want a man, but that's still a material goal.
	That's like me saying I want a good-looking girl.
	And of course, I want a good-looking girl.
	And of course, you want a confident guy, but this shouldn't be the first thing.
	We have to be a little bit careful because if you only seek out a confident guy, maybe that's all that you'll get.
	So you'll get a confident guy who has a lot of other problems and like a bad boy type.
	So, or me, if I want a good-looking girl, I'll get like, yeah, I'll just get that.
	I'll get a good-looking girl who's basically an empty shell.
	So we have to be a little bit careful what we desire because that desire is going to get us in trouble when it's all we get.
	It's kind of like that, you know, be careful what you wish for because you just may get it, but then you're not going to get anything else.
	So how about this?
	How about we count on Christ to know what is best for us and to trust in him to give us what we don't even know that we need?
	Hey, hey, that sounds good.
	I like that.
	And I appreciate your input on this because I've really been going over this in my head as, you know, the doomsdays are going on with what they're saying and everything.
	So I appreciate the encouraging words and everything.
	And just to actually clarify, it's not so much a confident man that I want, it's just an honest, loyal man.
	Okay, but first, he has to be honest and loyal to Christ.
	If he's not honest and loyal to Christ, you think he's going to be honest to you, a mere human being?
	Why?
	If he can't even be honest to the God who created him, why would he be honest to a person?
	So I think I'm sensing, I'm sensing that you're not meeting men of the faith.
	So I think, you know, if you work on your own faith and become a member of a church, I don't know if you are, but the, but as you know, I think that the Orthodox church is worth it in terms of being able to build your faith away from as much of the secular harm as possible.
	I think if you get involved in a church and build your faith, one thing you'll notice is that you'll be better able to judge men based on the traits that you want.
	Because until then, a guy can kind of, you know, if you're in a situation of passion and he can pretend he's honest, pretend he's this.
	But once you start to have the faith, that's hard to lie about.
	It's really hard to fake the faith, to fake the faith to someone who has it.
	So that's something that I think for you could definitely be helpful.
	No, no, those are wise words.
	And I'll definitely think on that.
	And I appreciate your input indeed.
	And actually, I wanted to go on to another point just for the other listeners and the people in the chat and everything.
	I would highly encourage any, you know, any other men who are against all of this craziness going on or against masks and all that stuff to try and go by lead by example.
	You know, don't wear the masks.
	Don't necessarily put it on because, oh, I'm going into a store and everyone's going to yell at me and look at me weird if I don't wear one because I don't know.
	It just sets a pattern where everyone else does it.
	So, you know, it's easier to just go along with it.
	And I'm very fight the power.
	Exactly, exactly.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, basically just, you know, if you believe in something, act on it.
	Do it.
	Do it in real life.
	Don't just say it to sound cool amongst your friends or peers or whatever the like.
	Truly mean it and truly do it, even when it's a pain in the ass and you have to work yourself up to you know go in to pay for your gas or whatever.
	Like, you know, that's that's the cards we've been built.
	Those are those are the cards we've been built.
	And I don't know.
	I think women will respect that.
	And I know I would.
	And yeah, yeah.
	So let me.
	Maybe soon I have to matchmake, you know, can pair up the women who follow me with the man, with the men.
	That could be like a future project.
	Hey, that would be interesting.
	That's a cool idea.
	It's yeah, it's just strange because a lot of people who say all these things against masks, against everything, I see them later and they're adhering to the social protocol.
	And it's it's ingenuine and it's really bothersome because I could see the masks a stumbling block for you.
	It's kind of getting you worked up.
	Hugely.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, we can't let things in the secular world affect us too deeply.
	It's just things that will fade away at this at the same time.
	But I can see your point, but at the same time, you know, we can't let the secular authorities make us upset too.
	So we have to be a little bit careful.
	Oh, very true.
	Very true.
	May I ask if you would have any advice for any of the men as to how to maintain their role as hunters and seekers?
	You know, men seeking out the women instead of the women going after men, because that's not natural to me.
	You know, it's kind of weird.
	And during these times, like, I just see people in public just shy away from each other.
	They don't even make eye contact.
	I don't even see people connecting.
	We can't solve these problems.
	We can't solve.
	The only problem we can solve is the one that's looking at us in the mirror.
	That's really it.
	That's all that we can do.
	We can solve our vices and passions, our spiritual problems.
	But now you're talking about problems involving millions of people.
	I can come up with a solution right now.
	That's not going to change a dang thing unless those people make a choice for pursuing the truth or doing the right thing.
	So I don't know.
	I don't think it's really helpful to think in terms of improving the world.
	I just don't see it happening.
	I have a hard enough time improving my faith.
	And actually, as the world gets more deranged, improving my faith is getting a little bit easier because it's so obvious now that, hey, the world is controlled by Satan.
	I don't want anything to do with him.
	So just do the opposite of what the world says.
	But unfortunately, a lot of people, I think we have to be a little patient on them to allow them to get over their fears and blockages.
	And some men call today.
	They have a blockage or two to have the patience so they can get over it and come to the truth.
	No, absolutely.
	That does make sense.
	And perhaps one thing that might help people, because I do this, I live in San Diego.
	People are very, very big on, you know, ordering others to adhere to guidelines and stuff.
	I would suggest for people to go on their local government's websites, federally, state, local, the health and human services, and actually print out the laws because there are guidelines and there are laws.
	And if you actually carry these laws around with you when you are not wearing a mask or adhering to certain crazy rules, you can actually show the people it's like, hey, what you're doing is unjust.
	Just because this is store policy or your policy doesn't mean that it makes it legally permissible.
	And it's just a nice tool to have on hand.
	So if somebody starts getting really aggressive, you can doctor.
	There was a caller earlier who did that too, and that could be helpful.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't travel anywhere without my California Constitution, my U.S. Constitution, and San Diego laws.
	And that has actually helped me greatly.
	So yeah, that's been good.
	But I don't want to take up too much of your time.
	I know you've been talking to a lot of people.
	That's all right.
	But I definitely appreciate your doing this live stream.
	And thank you for supporting my tour to last year.
	And I hope things with your things with your dad is going well.
	Oh, no, no.
	They're actually going wonderfully.
	And I still love how you autographed his book, Game.
	You know, use this for good, not evil.
	I love that.
	So, yeah, that was great.
	And that's what gave me the courage to give you a call and just see your opinion.
	So I'm glad you called.
	All right, cool.
	Well, from San Diego, we're not all crazy.
	Most of us all are, but some of us were still fighting the good fight.
	And thank you very much for spearheading the same thing.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	You have a great night.
	You too.
	Bye-bye.
	Bye.
	Yeah.
	You know, one thing I didn't want to break it to her is that a lot of men don't like receiving advice or tips from a woman.
	So, I mean, I wanted her to share what she thought, though.
	But if a woman tries to tell me what to do, I wouldn't, I mean, unless it's a nun who has been a nun for a long time, I would wonder why she's telling me what to do.
	But in that case, she was giving general advice, which is fine.
	I feel really bad for the callers on hold.
	They've been on hold for a long time.
	So I understand if they want to chat a bit.
	I'm getting a little bit tired.
	This is, we're going on hour four, people.
	For another mega stream.
	I guess to ask your opinion, should I make this ruche hour number 56?
	Do you think there were some gold nuggets in here that should be a canonized ruche hour?
	Please let me know because I was going to do like a throwaway stream, but I don't know.
	I'm kind of a nice chill, chill stream.
	I think maybe some of the things here could be hold the test of time.
	Okay, that said, let's go to the next one.
	Oh, Collie, you're now live.
	Hi, yeah.
	I wanted to talk to you about the giants.
	First, telling me where are you?
	Where are you calling from?
	I'm calling from Virginia.
	Virginia, okay.
	That is a state I may want to move to.
	Yeah, it's pretty nice up here.
	I live in a rural area out in the woods.
	Well, water, you know, clear sky.
	Nice.
	All right.
	So you wanted to talk about the giants?
	Yeah.
	When I read the Bible for myself, the story was totally different from what I learned in church.
	And one of the fascinating parts of it that I found fascinating was the list of the giants.
	And unraveling that just made it seem it made everything make sense for me.
	And I didn't know if what your take was on it or, you know, if you elaborated upon it in your mind or thought about it more.
	But yeah, what do you know about the giants?
	Yeah, I know the verse it's in, I think, in Genesis.
	Yeah, where they're, you know, trying to explain.
	I think the interpretation, I don't know what the official Orthodox interpretation is.
	It could be some demonic type of deal.
	But honestly, I'm not, I don't know.
	You know, I really don't know.
	I don't venture into the Old Testament that often because I'm still getting firm ground on the New Testament on the teachings of Christ.
	So I only venture into the Old Testament when I hear enough of the verses in church and I think, okay, Isaiah, I think I should read this book or one of those books.
	But I haven't become like a, I'm not a Bible expert or anything like that.
	Well, when I read it, it made the entire Bible make sense.
	And what I got from it was the entire Bible seems to be a DNA war.
	A what war?
	A DNA war.
	DNA war.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Like, you know, the things that make up yourselves, DNA.
	And it, you know, it seems the whole fall of man, when I read it, was when the angels fell because they wanted to have wives.
	Like, they were a little upset that God placed man before them.
	Because, you know, the angels said, well, wait, we were made before them.
	You know, we're brilliant.
	We're shining.
	The Bible refers to them as stars.
	Like, they're actually stars, not luminaries.
	And I guess they looked down on earth and they saw, well, men have wives, why can't we have wives?
	So they come down and form a pack and they take human wives and you have children, and your children lack the growing hormone that limits their growth.
	The same thing happens when you mix tigers and lions, and you get a liger, it just keeps growing.
	And so their children became giants.
	And this was not a plan for earth.
	God did not plan for that kind to be on earth.
	This new race, they call them Nephilim.
	And so he caused the flood.
	He says, they became so big, they consumed everything.
	They started consuming people.
	And they just wanted on their minds, it was like evil incarnate all the time.
	So God's like, I've got to get rid of this DNA.
	It says that he found Noah, and Noah was perfect in his generations being a genealogically.
	He had no giant blood in him.
	He was an entire family.
	So he put Noah aside.
	He caused the flood to wipe out all the giant DNA.
	And whatever they, their DNA was so pure and open, whatever they had sex with, whatever they made it with, they would have children.
	So they made it with bull, they would create mimota.
	They made it with goats.
	They created Saturn.
	Fish, whale, you get the mermaids, the Neptune, and all that, right?
	The Bible's all the DNA.
	I have to ask, where did you get this interpretation from?
	It's the book of Genesis.
	I know, but the interpretation itself, not the Bible, but the interpretation that you're speaking about, is it your interpretation or did you read about it from someone else?
	I read it in the book of Enoch and the book of Enoch.
	No, no, I know, but that's a Bible book, right?
	Or that's like a non-canonized book or something?
	A non-canonized books of the Bible that Jesus refers to several times.
	Okay.
	And what is it in that book that connects with what you're talking about?
	Because I know that book doesn't go into like the DNA stuff or anything.
	So where are you getting like the DNA thing?
	No, it does.
	It does.
	The Bible calls it seed.
	Your seed, his feed, everything has a seed.
	The seed carries your DNA.
	Okay.
	And this is how you pass on your DNA to your children.
	And Enoch goes into it verbatim.
	It tells you the names of the angels, what they taught men.
	Certain angels taught men how to map the stars.
	One angel taught men how to pull metal from the earth to make swords.
	Another angel taught men how to put makeup and paint on to beautify the women.
	It goes very deeply.
	That could be just enlightenment of God to inspire man to create.
	It doesn't have to be like we don't have to accept it in a literal sense that there was an angel with wings right next to this human teaching him how to build a fire, right?
	Well, I thought that too.
	But once you read through it, you then begin to understand that there were two races upon the earth.
	And so when people would say, well, God is not loving, because in the Old Testament, he would tell David, go into the land and kill everyone, man, woman, child, and the animals.
	But what he was doing was he was wiping out giant DNA.
	David fought Goliath.
	He was one of the giants.
	He had brothers, Ah, Magog.
	They were all kings.
	The one problem, the book of Enoch has not been accepted into the Orthodox Church.
	So in terms of that interpretation, I can't accept it.
	Well, you know, it was interesting because you were talking to Paula before, and you were asking, you know, where do you get your authority from?
	He said, you got it from the church.
	But before we had our canonized Bible, these stories were all read by all Christians or really Hebrews.
	Well, define, how do you know?
	They were all?
	They were read by all of them?
	They were read.
	Yeah, they were all read and read.
	They were read by Hebrews.
	We are not Jews, though.
	I am not a Jewish person.
	I don't, you know, I'm not taking just their books that weren't incorporated into the church.
	So if there's something that Jews they read, but the church hasn't deemed it scripture that is incorporating the Bible, I ignore it.
	That's not for me.
	Actually, the church did not make the Bible.
	The Bible was made by the Council of Nicaea.
	I think you got your councils wrong.
	I think it's the Council of Trent.
	But anyway, the church didn't make, didn't, no, they assembled it.
	They said which books would be included.
	So they didn't write it.
	They took the writings there and they said what is divinely inspired or not.
	They said the book of Enoch is not divinely inspired.
	Not.
	So what is that book?
	Why are you putting weight on that?
	Well, Jesus refers to that.
	Jesus refers to that book by its name in the New Testament.
	And he refers to it himself.
	So what you're saying is there was all these godly inspired writings, people who wrote these things down, and then later a council decides, no, that this book wasn't godly inspired.
	To me, that's a bureaucratic thing.
	If you really look at it, these people were inspired by God to write these things.
	Is that your?
	You said that Nicaea decided what was godly inspired.
	Right, right, right.
	So they did, but in terms of the book that's not included, who says the book that's not included is divinely inspired?
	Jesus himself referred to it.
	Jesus himself refers in the church include that book to hide this knowledge.
	Okay, but what I'm trying to get at is what is the knowledge?
	That there's two seeds upon the earth.
	There's a seed of the fallen angels, and there's a seed of the actual endemic bloodline.
	This is why the Bible tracks who begot who begot whom, because they're tracking the endemic blood bloodline.
	But what I'm trying to get at is what does that, okay, now, so let's say we accept your book.
	Your book is divinely inspired.
	What is that going to do?
	How would that impact your faith, or why would you need the knowledge that's in there to serve Christ?
	Oh, it's fundamental because when the angels came down and had children, they became yeah, but why is that important?
	I mean, I'm trying to say, okay, I'm a human being right now, and so are you.
	We have a mission to save our souls, right?
	To serve our saviors.
	I can really tell you.
	I can really tell you.
	It'll only take me, it won't take me 15 seconds.
	Okay.
	That when they came upon the earth, we worshiped them as gods.
	This is where the Bible talks about false gods.
	And their children became our kings, these tall, gigantic people.
	If you look throughout the world, all of our kings and presidents have always been tall or nearly tall.
	We're mimicking what we did in the past.
	And God told the Azimuth bloodline: do not worship these kingdoms.
	They set up kingdoms upon the earth.
	You're not supposed to be of those kingdoms.
	You don't need a fleshly God.
	I am your God.
	So after all these people were destroyed by the kingdom system, pulled away by the kingdom system, God finally sent his son Jesus to be the one true king and the sacrifice that could pull these people away from the kingdom system.
	Sin does not manifest itself until you go into the kingdom system.
	Okay, but you're going in the but you're going into the story.
	That's not what I asked.
	I asked, how does this fact that you're trying to say this thing, how does it help me serve Christ right now?
	How does knowing that there are multiple seeds and so on and there are giants, how does that help me right now today to serve Christ?
	Well, one, we're talking about masks, right?
	You're getting, people are rejecting it because it's coming from the kingdom system that's placed upon the America and the world.
	They're trying to make a one world kingdom.
	And so we have these preppers.
	The church teaches Satan.
	Yes, this is coming from the dark side, right?
	But what preppers are pulling themselves out of the kingdom system?
	They're learning to live off the land like in the garden setting, like we were supposed to.
	What does this have to do with the giants?
	The giants brought the kingdom system.
	They were the false.
	So what?
	Why do I need to know?
	Why do I need to buy that for my faith?
	Like, you haven't really answered the question: why should anyone entertain this extra-biblical book?
	And you can argue it's Jesus Christ, whatever.
	I don't know.
	I don't know the full Bible as well as, say, someone who's been into it.
	But I don't see what this is giving you.
	I don't see what.
	I mean, you're talking more about giants than, say, Christ.
	Like, where is what?
	What is kingdoms?
	But why does it matter about okay, but we already have what the church teaches?
	Evil comes from Satan and the demons.
	They fell.
	Yes.
	But what is this extra?
	I don't know what this is, mystical stuff.
	I just don't really get the point of it.
	I mean, why?
	Okay, what you're really saying to me is throw away all your orthodox teachings for this and at least sell it to me.
	Why should I believe in what you're, what you are telling me if it wasn't given to me by everything you're saying is exactly this.
	You haven't convinced me of that.
	You have not persuaded me that what you're saying is in any way, in any way connected.
	So you're saying it is, but you haven't provided an argument of why.
	Okay, let me try to do it with a link.
	You can go.
	No, I can't deal with it.
	No, no, I can't do links.
	We are talking now.
	We're using vocal communication.
	You have to persuade me of your argument.
	I'm trying to speak.
	You're talking over me.
	I'm just trying to get out simple points.
	I pause.
	I don't speak over you.
	I'm just trying to get them out.
	Don't get upset.
	I'm not.
	you're rejecting everything i was saying without letting you say it because to be honest let's be honest it's a lot to be honest you have a spirit of rejection You won't let me know that they still along.
	Okay, so I reject your extra-biblical book.
	Yes, I reject it.
	I reject a book that the church says is apocryphal.
	The church did not say it.
	The Council of Nicaea said it.
	Okay.
	I accept what the church teaches.
	I think you have a problem with the church.
	Can I ask you something?
	Okay, fine.
	That's fine.
	I want to see what the idea is.
	I mean, there's no harm in that.
	But are you a member of a church?
	Yes.
	Can you share which one it is?
	It's a G7 or G12 church.
	G12?
	Yeah, but basically Baptists, but our Bible studies are done in groups of 12 at people's homes.
	So we have regular services and our Bible studies.
	Is this taught by your church?
	Is this taught by?
	No, I'm not taught by the church this.
	I know, but does your church teach what you're teaching me?
	It's almost as though you don't want me to put this information out.
	You don't threaten, I mean, it's not a, your information is not, I'm not trying to censor you, but it's just how much time can I give to something that is, to me, sounds a bit silly.
	How much time can you give to something you don't know of?
	Because you haven't let me tell you.
	I'm sorry, I don't agree with what you are trying to teach me.
	You don't have to get upset about it.
	You don't know what I'm teaching you yet.
	No, I think I do know.
	You are teaching a book that's not in the Bible.
	That you've kind of putting a lot of weight into.
	Now, maybe.
	I don't understand your interpretation.
	It's in Genesis 6.
	Yes.
	I do know that verse.
	Okay, so it's in the Bible.
	What I'm talking about is in the Bible.
	The Bible brings them up.
	He calls them giants.
	And then the Bible says, because there's evil in the land thereof, and their children, it causes the flesh.
	This is what I'm talking about.
	And what those people did is they brought about the kingdom structure upon the earth.
	And the kingdom structure is what causes sin and causes the downfall of man.
	You just kind of shifted away where evil comes from.
	So what the church teaches is Satan is the source of it.
	The demons are.
	So you've just kind of given a new name to Satan and the demons.
	Our fallen angels who fell upon the earth and put their kingdoms upon the earth.
	Okay, that's fine.
	But you've just given like a new name to Satan's activities with the introduction of kingdoms and so on.
	But it's nothing that would is God has a kingdom in the earth.
	God had a kingdom in heaven, in heaven, and the angels were so envious, they put their kingdoms upon the earth.
	And their bloodline.
	But here's the deal.
	When Jesus came, he didn't care.
	God kept trying to wipe out the bloodlines with David, with the flood.
	But when Jesus came, he said, okay, I don't care if you're Jew or Gentile.
	I don't care if you have giant blood or not.
	If you believe in me and that I will be your Savior and Judy, you'll have salvation, then that's what will happen.
	So he wipes out these new requirements.
	People in my chat, they're getting upset at me.
	They're getting upset at me because they are not interested in this topic.
	Thank you, though, for sharing it.
	I don't agree with it, but you're free to send me a link and I'll check it out.
	But from what you've said, it seems like totally unnecessary, Gnostic something or the other.
	But again, just to look at it, I'll look at it.
	Okay.
	We call them ancient Williams, but there were the giants.
	Okay, so thank you for calling, though.
	Have a good night.
	Okay, now.
	Bye-bye.
	Now, don't get offended by what I'm going to say right now.
	But Protestantism, never.
	Never.
	Do you see?
	I think, listen, maybe he's right about some.
	Maybe there were giants.
	I don't know.
	But why are you going into this?
	I don't get it.
	I don't get it.
	It doesn't matter.
	DNA.
	I'm sorry.
	I just, you know, I just don't understand it.
	And you see, when self-interpretation takes over, we've had a couple callers now.
	When self-interpretation takes over, you can go down a weird road, a non-orthodox road.
	But hey, there's a lot of Protestants I met and know that are base, so not attacking them.
	But man, you can get deceived very easily.
	Very easily.
	You're just, yeah, a non-biblical book I'm going to use as apparently the sole topic of what I'm going to talk to this guy about.
	I'm sorry.
	I just, I don't see the point of it.
	What do you get out of this?
	Oh, my God.
	I don't know what that is.
	I really don't know what it is.
	I mean, I couldn't even understand it half the time.
	So I feel bad for the person before who's after him who has to follow that because now I'm a little bit agitated.
	All right, caller, you're not alive.
	Bruce, what's going on?
	Did you hear the call that I just had?
	I did.
	I did.
	And my similar topic, so feel free to ignore it.
	Can you explain this?
	What is this?
	I don't even know what he was talking about.
	I think the Nephilim, you know, it's a little bit interesting.
	There's giants.
	They're probably the fallen angels.
	But yeah, you're right.
	What does it matter?
	How does it impact us today?
	No, I don't know.
	It's kind of like, you know, the earth is really 8,000 years old.
	No, it's 6,000 years old.
	And it's like, does it matter?
	It doesn't.
	It doesn't help me.
	Your knowledge, his knowledge doesn't help me serve Christ.
	But anyway, so where are you calling from?
	California, People's Republic of the United States.
	Another California.
	Man, you guys are stuck there, huh?
	Stuck like rats.
	You wouldn't even believe it.
	Oh boy.
	So what is going on?
	So not to go down another conspiracy rabbit hole.
	That's okay.
	I'm already, I mean, we're already there.
	And I had the super chat, so it's repetitive if you see that.
	Okay.
	I just wanted to get your take on what you think of the QAnon, you know, deep state Trump white hats that are, you know, for whatever it is, you know, and we'll see what happens with the election.
	I don't know.
	But it's very interesting to me.
	Yeah, me, I think that generally QAnon is a really good LARP.
	I think it's a really, it's done by like an insider, but not the insider.
	And it seems one step above astrology.
	You know, like a broken clock is right twice a day type of deal.
	I don't, it's not something that I go by.
	It's something that I can only look at for entertainment purposes.
	So I wouldn't use that to give hope.
	I mean, I think some people use QAnon for, you know, hope, but it's a false hope.
	And I agree with you, and there's a lot of side ventures and they get into the numbers, but what about just the fact that Admiral Rogers did go visit Trump at Trump Towers after he was elected?
	Right.
	And, you know, he probably said something to the effect of, hey, bro, you know, they're wiretapping you.
	Everyone that this guy touches is being wiretapped.
	Just the fact that the military intelligence probably can see pretty much all traffic, you know, from the trunks of the internet, the fiber lines.
	You know, they've got everything in Utah and they can analyze it as they see fit.
	So probably since that technology has existed, I don't know, 20, 30 years, they've been seeing all this kind of selling out of our country, the pedophilia amongst the people that are in charge, for nothing else, just the outright normal political corruption.
	And, you know, if they were sworn military patriots, they're not allowed to intervene in anything domestic.
	You know, they follow the Constitution.
	I would be pretty pissed off if I was in some NSA dark room listening into all the Epstein Island stuff, you know, the stuff that we don't even know about that was 30 years prior to what we see now.
	I mean, I don't have a problem with people who believe it's real.
	I don't have a problem with that.
	I just don't think QAnon Q is a real insider thing.
	But all the things you talk about, yeah, I mean, I think there are some insider activities going.
	I think there is some insider battles between the white hats and the black hats.
	I do think that.
	But I don't think Q is the prophet of this.
	I think it's just like a LARP.
	Or I think it's someone who works there and who's making himself bigger than he really is.
	So he's like a low-level person who has a little bit of access.
	And it's pretty interesting.
	I mean, he tries to connect various obscure things and it's like reading the tea leaves.
	And I think you can have fun with that.
	And maybe he's right some of the time.
	But I think if I try to do a LARP, if I try to do a LARP on his scale, I think I could, and no one knew that it was me.
	Let's say I pretended I was like a CIA guy.
	I think I could probably trick a lot of people.
	Because I follow the news often.
	I can take a guess.
	But I would need to know some of the government agencies and how the bureaucracy, it works to make it like a good LARP.
	Like what is the level GS20 of the staff and things like that?
	If I knew a little bit of that and connect with my general knowledge, I'm pretty sure I could make a LARP too.
	And maybe even you can.
	Yeah, that's true.
	But if it just, let's pretend it was true.
	You would kind of need a way to prep people to kind of, you know, get the information out there as a source multiplier.
	A friend tells a friend, you know, you're hearing it from maybe a family member as opposed to all of a sudden Trump comes on every channel, my fellow Americans, and lays it out.
	You know, you might, it could be.
	I can see that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	This is why I don't attack the Q people.
	I don't attack it.
	I don't mock it.
	I don't really care.
	But yeah, how can you get the truth out there?
	Maybe this is a way.
	It could be.
	It could be.
	Because it could be that Q is a vehicle for normies to find that we're basically ruled by satanic pedophiles.
	Yeah.
	And that's kind of how I took it.
	You know, the other thing related to the 2016 election, I think that was a total shock to everybody, especially when Weiner's laptop came up.
	You know, Comey had to get back on the air.
	He had to say, oh, excuse me, we found more emails.
	We got to check through these.
	And then you fast forward to Trump winning.
	He probably wasn't supposed to.
	He probably overpowered whatever algorithms they're running.
	And then to see the NYPD guys on Epstein Island during the raid, that's very interesting to me because that'd probably be the same task force that whoever was dealing with Anthony Weiner's laptop and the Hillary Cuma emails.
	It just interests me.
	That part sparks my curiosity.
	I'm just kind of curious, how many laptops of incriminating evidence and child porn do they have to find for some justice to be done?
	I mean, it's like they're literally getting away with everything, with everything, any crime you can think of.
	It seems like the whole point of the FBI is to protect those in the insider club.
	I mean, I don't, it's just so blatant, and I don't know how much longer they can maintain this system with so many people with the awareness of what is going on.
	And I think even with Trump getting defrauded in the election has served a purpose.
	It has awoken a lot of people to a lot of conservatives to the fact that elections can be rigged.
	So it's like everything is serving a purpose.
	It's serving a purpose.
	We're going somewhere.
	There is a big showdown coming.
	I just don't know how it's going to happen and when it's going to happen.
	But I think we can all feel it.
	I don't think you need to be an expert of the news to know that something is coming.
	And it's probably coming soon.
	Yes, I agree.
	Well, that's really all I had.
	Thanks for your insight.
	Glad to support you.
	Hopefully you can do another tour, maybe.
	Yeah, you know, it's looking like that's not going to happen with where the country is going.
	But I may have to do like one big event somewhere and you can take like a road trip there.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Okay.
	Thank you for calling.
	Bye, Rich.
	Thank you.
	Bye-bye.
	Man, I was young.
	I used to do like a six-hour stream.
	Now I'm getting old.
	How many hours have I been doing this?
	Four and a half hours.
	Super chats, too.
	Let's check a couple of the super chats to see if I can get these done fast.
	Maybe I'll take a call or two.
	Okay, Gage Benson donates $5.
	He says, please add this in the last video to BitChute.
	Any thoughts on Parlor and it being hacked?
	Love the stream as always.
	Plumber friend who emails you from Utah.
	God bless Rauschbest.
	Parlor.
	You know, Parlor is now funded by the Mercers.
	So that's like a neocon outfit.
	You can't talk about the Jews, and they're going to ban and censor.
	So it's a viable alternative for a period.
	I think Gab is pretty good.
	I haven't heard many people getting banned on Gab, so I would prefer that if I get banned from Twitter.
	And the reason I'm not on Gab much now is because when you have 80,000 followers on Twitter, you kind of don't want to go somewhere else.
	Jeremy Vial said, Bless you, my man.
	Thank you, Jeremy.
	Israel Shalom Henthorne says, Raush, can you demo some guns for us and fire a few shots into the ground so that we can see how the weapon is?
	So my last stream, I talked about how when I was in Alabama, some guy told me to shoot his gun into the ground to try it out.
	Thank you for that inside joke.
	JLNC says, We're reliving Isaiah chapter 3, which brings us to chapter 4 regarding relationships.
	And seven women shall take hold of one man in that day, saying, We will eat our own bread and wear our own clothes.
	Only let us be called by your name.
	Take away our reproach.
	So I think he's referring to when you're basically going to be dominated by women and children.
	Yeah, we are kind of there.
	You know, there was the most female Republican congressmen were elected, and I'm supposed to celebrate that.
	Oh, we got some Republicans one, and they're women.
	That's not good because once the going gets tough and they're threatened to not vote for truth, then they're going to get scared very easily and be utterly useless.
	Israel Shalom, wow, the Jews donating a lot.
	Thank you.
	He says, Thanks for speaking the truth and keeping it in a world of fake news.
	Oh, hold on.
	Thanks for speaking the truth and keeping it real in a world of fake news and fake pandemics and fake brick wallpaper.
	What?
	Fake brick wallpaper?
	What do you mean?
	There's no gaps between the see how a Jew can't even give money in a nice way.
	They have to insult me.
	Okay.
	And actually, he asked another question.
	He says, Never thought I'd ask advice from a man living with his mom.
	But what would you say to those who say asking God for all the answers is slacking since he already gave us a mind to reason and problem solve?
	Thanks.
	Yeah, he gave us a mind to reason and problem solve while serving him.
	While serving him.
	If you don't serve him, guess what's going to happen when you use your mind?
	It's going to be used for evil ends, just like I did.
	You know, I wasn't serving God.
	I think I'm a smart guy at times.
	You know, I have my moments, and I was so smart, I wrote how many books on how to fornicate, how to bang girls, how to just basically be enslaved to your lusts.
	So where was my intelligence there to help me out?
	Where was my reason there?
	Oh, well, intelligence and reason has to be harnessed, has to be harnessed by God, or else it's being harnessed by Satan.
	So that's what I would say to that.
	But now, when you are serving God, you can trust your intelligence a bit more, a bit more, but it has to be in servitude to God.
	So I use my intelligence to do streams like this, to preach the gospel or a word of it from time to time, or to write articles that I hope helps increase people's faith.
	And if I was a scientist, let's say, then I would use my intelligence to give glory to what God has given us.
	Q Encrypted says, I work law enforcement as a detective.
	I think Trump's victory was God's will.
	The Wiener laptop.
	Oh, I think this is the guy who I just talked to.
	The wiener laptop showed the evil, and NSA Admiral Rogers told Trump he was wire-tapped.
	I think Q is real.
	God wins.
	You know, Q could be real.
	I just think it doesn't even matter now, I guess, because the point he made was that a lot of people are finding the truth through Q, which is good.
	Mr. Shalom said, Thank you for speaking the truth and keeping it.
	Oh, I already read that.
	I think I read all.
	You know, the good thing about when you do get off YouTube, you don't get a lot of super chats, not as much.
	I guess I'm done with that.
	So let me take another call.
	Hello, caller.
	You're now live.
	Caller.
	Caller, you have to mute the feed and listen to me.
	Caller, I'm talking to you.
	Soon he's going to hear me talking to him from his feed.
	I don't think he knows.
	Hello.
	There he is.
	Hello, caller.
	Do I have you?
	Yes.
	Okay, you have to meet the feed.
	Yeah, okay.
	How's it going?
	Good, good.
	How are you?
	Good.
	And where are you calling from?
	Australia.
	Oh, Australia.
	And what time is it there now?
	Three.
	No, sorry.
	Two, two o'clock.
	Two in the afternoon.
	Yes, yes.
	First.
	Sure, thanks.
	Before you start, I have to almost sympathize with your plight, how severe the lockdowns have been there.
	Oh, thanks.
	Actually, that's why I wanted to call, too, because I'm living in Queensland, and there's no lockdown here, and nobody wears masks here.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So it's funny because you see one thing in the news and you only see one side of the story.
	So maybe I should.
	Maybe I should move there then.
	I should move to Queenland.
	Queensland.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Move down.
	Yeah, it's a nice place.
	Great to see you.
	I'm on my way.
	Yeah.
	But soon you're going to need a vaccine to take a plane trip.
	And so, and that might go against your religion as an Orthodox.
	Oh, it doesn't technically.
	But also, one thing, how come you don't have like a thick Australian accent?
	I'm not originally.
	I'm originally from California.
	Jeez, a lot of Californians.
	Okay.
	So, in terms of the vaccine, I don't know if you're asking, I'm not going to take it.
	And not from a religious perspective.
	Well, I mean, it could in the sense of if that vaccine modifies the creation itself.
	It could be like a DNA thing.
	That was like a, reminded me about what that guy was talking about about the DNA wars.
	Okay.
	Oh, no.
	With the Nephilim.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And the Q-tards, too.
	You know, we all kind of have these conspiracy theories, and it seems to me right now they're all kind of coming together and coagulating into some sort of new age Christian, red-pilled crusade.
	I mean, why should happen?
	What's wrong with what the church teaches, with what the Orthodox Church teaches?
	It gives answers.
	It gives metaphysical answers, answers of the faith, of why the world is.
	Why do we have to go down these weird roads through self-interpretation, new age, like you said, or taking the Q stuff?
	I mean, maybe taking it further than what even Q says to believe in.
	I'm all for believing in a conspiracy theory, but some of them, I just don't even know where they come from.
	So I don't know what's wrong with just doing a boring thing.
	And hey, this is the faith.
	It was cultivated for you in 2,000 years.
	Just believe in it.
	Apply it using your intelligence that God gives you.
	I don't know.
	Why is that so hard for people?
	Well, I think it's not hard because that's when I really look at my favorite book of the Bible is the Apocalypse and John's Revelation.
	And when you start to read into the codes and the symbology and all that, he's pointing, he's warning about something coming that really was hard to understand for people for so long.
	And now with our technology, especially with the vaccinations and the digital tracking and the idea of a digital cryptocurrency.
	So this conspiracy theory is coming into reality and it does reflect some of the teachings of the Orthodox.
	So then I think people are starting to really wake up to it.
	And like you said, if Q is just helping people, I don't know what you meant when you said, you know, like, do you agree that there's this satanic pedophile ruling the world?
	Right.
	And if that's what I'm saying, yeah, so you're with the Q in that, like, you agree.
	And Q has done something really phenomenal by taking all these information, all these links, and creating a network where you can, you could, if you were a lawyer, you could use all of this to create a case in court.
	And that's hard work.
	And he's been able to do it and be really diligent about it.
	Keep everybody on.
	And I may have said some, you know, hard work that Q is fake, but even if it's fake, like he's not the insider.
	If he's bringing the truth to people, and all truth is from God, and then he's doing God's work.
	So I don't want to be too hard on Q.
	This is why I don't attack or I don't pay much attention.
	But, you know, is it?
	I just want to put my hope in Q.
	I think that's the point I was trying to get across.
	Yeah.
	Well, have you heard of Archbishop Vigano, Carlo Maria Viganeau?
	Yeah, he sent the he's a Catholic, right?
	So he sent a letter to Trump, and his letter was very red-pilled.
	He knows, I think he knows more than us, and he knows what's going on.
	He knows exactly how it is, how it's run.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and he wrote two letters.
	One was in June, and then one was in October, at the end of October, right before the elections.
	And he does sound like a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory kind of guy, like that reads Q, you know, and follows Q.
	And when I heard that, you know, being from a Roman Catholic family, I was like, okay, this is it.
	Like, this is what I needed to know that I'm on the right track here.
	And then we saw what happened with the election, and we're seeing now that there's a lot on the line, but I think a lot of people forget to acknowledge what the real enemy is.
	And that's this communist.
	Yeah, Satan, of course, but he has his system, just like Christians have our system through Orthodoxy.
	And it's a communist.
	And it can change, but right now we're going up against this communist entity, and it's really the center of it is out of China.
	Right.
	I mean, it seems like the powers that be has given a lot of, they want China to be the next in line.
	They want China to be the superpower.
	So it seems like, now, one thing that I've didn't understand, but I do now, is that a lot of our politicians are bought from China.
	So it seems like China is like they're trying to give the mantle of world supremacy from the United States to China.
	And while they're doing that, they're going to grind us down.
	And they're grinding Australians down.
	They're grinding us down with these phony lockdowns that just reduce economic activity and make us utterly dependent on the state and Amazon and Walmart.
	So, yeah, it's this communist idea.
	It's like Satan is trying it again in a different way.
	So instead of putting everyone in the gulags, like that's takes, that's hard to do.
	It takes a lot of force to do.
	He's basically locking us in our own homes.
	So our own homes will be the gulag under this medical tyranny, which they're going full steam ahead with this.
	And I think they're, unfortunately, when we look back a couple of years from now, we're going to be like, wow, I guess this is when it started in 2020.
	But yeah, I agree.
	But we're in a lot of trouble right now.
	And a lot of people know and feel it.
	And Trump, I just get a little bit irritated because I see how God's given us this clear path to victory with Trump as our leader.
	And we can distinguish between good from evil and the righteousness that we need.
	And we need a leader.
	And America is the only thing standing in the way with the right leadership with Trump.
	And we have it.
	And we have to use our military.
	And we have to stand up and face this thing.
	And I see so many people that are like wishy-washy.
	They don't want to support, you know, they don't really want to put all their chips in on Trump.
	And they don't see that.
	If we don't come through this and stand up and really hold all of these traitors accountable, we're going to be, like you said, under this medical, we have to destroy the head of the serpent now.
	And so it's coming really down to the wire.
	And so it is, anyone who's living in a metropolitan area right now, you know, I'd say, you know, think about where you're going to go, you know, if you need to leave and what you're going to do and who you can depend on because that's going to be, and in the end, we might have to sort of sacrifice some of those places.
	And I really feel for you, Roosh, knowing that you live in D.C., but I know if we can, you know, turn the tide and then hopefully Washington will be protected as a capital.
	Yeah, hopefully.
	But yeah, I mean, there is, I think if you're a man, you definitely, you have a bit of fight in you.
	Like me, it kind of makes me mad at times what's going on.
	And I want to fight.
	But at the same time, we have to be a little bit careful, too, because we are not going to improve the world.
	We have to understand why we are fighting.
	If it's to improve the world, to increase comfort, that may not be a righteous cause that Christ is going to help us with.
	But it's to serve him.
	It has to, what I'm trying to get at, is it has to be through the frame of serving him.
	It has to be through the lens of serving God.
	If it's serving our own comforts, we're going to get into trouble.
	So as long as we don't sin in our activism, we don't let pride enter, then we'll be fine.
	But we also have to be careful is not telling people to resist in a way that their non-existent faith cannot handle.
	A lot of people cannot handle not wearing a mask because they have no faith and they're scared of dying.
	And by you telling them or really convincing them not to wear it and they get sick, now they're going to have like a breakdown.
	So we have to be a little bit careful too.
	So for men who want to fight and fight again in a righteous way, then yeah, I mean, I think, you know, every time I go to the supermarket, I'm ready to fight if I have to, if I feel that this is it, if this is the battle.
	So far, it really hasn't been.
	But it's, I'm not too concerned about what the world is going to do and what's going to happen to the world.
	The world is going to fade away anyway.
	So I don't know how much it's worth to dedicate our lives to a world.
	But if we can serve God while, you know, putting the truth out there, while speaking the truth, and helping our neighbor overcome evil that is forced upon them, then that to me makes a lot of sense.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't know how much you get into the eschatology and the apocalypse, but you know, you see the dragon in there and the way that that points back to the Chinese and their dragon and that they've been persecuting people there more than anyone and doing so many bad things to their own people and what they want to do to us and the rest of the world.
	And what you know about the Great Reset and this idea that they can change us on a genetic level with DNA through the vaccines.
	And the vaccines are like a curse upon mankind because it's from the aborted fetal cells.
	It's from these things that are like a curse on our soul.
	And once they can cut us off from our eternal life, then they'll be able to usher in this new world order.
	And in order for us to stop that, we need to be sure-footed.
	And when people don't know what's going on, there's a lot of confusion around us.
	To play contrarian, why do you want to stop it?
	Well, I want to stop it just because I don't want to see the bad guy win.
	Okay, but is with Christ, how will the bad guy win?
	Is it even possible?
	Well, no.
	Okay.
	No.
	So when you say you want to stop it, I mean, if God wanted to stop it, don't you think He could stop it right away?
	He wants to stop.
	Our mission.
	Yeah, so he's allowing this to happen.
	Okay, so what is the mission that you have?
	Yeah, so I mean to save, yeah, to save people, souls.
	Okay, well, tell them what's good.
	Help them through the truth by really clearly defining the truth, especially in the face of all the lies from the media.
	And so many people are confused.
	And usually, you know, the people you can really have the most influence on are your family and close friends.
	But then by being able to say, look, I know this is what's happening and not beating around the bush.
	And I really do think it's up to us to say this is what we're going to have to do.
	A lot of people are going to have to leave the cities maybe and to be more like shepherds or whatever you can imagine that would be because they will succeed in implementing the smart cities, the vaccines, and you won't be able to go in the cities.
	You won't be able to do any of the stuff that requires this digital ID.
	I can tell you that for me, I mean, I don't think we, anyway, we don't have the power alone to stop this, but to speak the truth and not to participate in the lies, I think if everyone did that, we'd be fine, right?
	If everyone spoke the truth and didn't participate in lies, we wouldn't need a big battle.
	But unfortunately, what you will find in the next years is the enemy is not just those at the top who are controlling this, but your neighbor who believes the lies and sees you as the enemy because you don't believe in them too.
	So I think unfortunately, most of our time is going to be spent with those useful idiots at the bottom who believe in the lies and who are serving as foot soldiers for the oligarchs at the top.
	But hey, we have a hard battle in front of us.
	But one thing, one piece of advice I can give you is to pace yourself.
	This is going to last a long time.
	It's not going to be like a one-year thing.
	It's going to be a decade thing.
	So just save your strength up.
	You know, don't blow all your energy in 2021.
	Thanks, Rush.
	Okay, buddy.
	Thank you for calling.
	God bless.
	God bless you.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm going to take one more caller.
	So there's about five of you on hold.
	Actually, let me get this caller once he connects before you start hanging up.
	But we're going on five hours, people.
	Five hours.
	I must have taken 20 plus calls, and they've been very good.
	Even the bad ones have been good because I was able to share my viewpoints on some things.
	So let's take this caller.
	Hello, caller.
	You are last.
	Who is last is first?
	Oh, is that some kind of biblical quote?
	Yes, it is.
	Oh, hi, Roche.
	How are you?
	How are you?
	And where are you calling from?
	I'm calling from the great state of Rhode Island.
	Rhode Island.
	Okay.
	I haven't heard much out of Rhode Island lately.
	It's Sass Pitt, as usual.
	Okay.
	Now, I was there.
	I'm trying to think, where was I?
	I don't remember.
	You know, I've been to so many places now.
	You went to the Newport Mansions.
	Yes.
	I went to the Breakers.
	Breakers.
	Ocean Drive.
	So that's where it is.
	Yeah, that's where I learned to drive, actually, on Ocean Drive.
	That was the first vehicle I ever drove.
	You know, I get the feeling, though, like the rich, rich aren't there anymore.
	I think it's like an upper middle class type of deal now, no?
	Or is it what?
	I really don't know.
	I mean, you're talking to a Rhode Islander.
	Rhode Islanders don't really know much about anything outside of their particular region.
	So I'm well away from Aquidneck.
	Okay.
	Which is the island that Newport is on.
	Yeah, we're kind of like very provincial people.
	We don't usually go two centimeters outside if we don't have to.
	Nice.
	Well, I would say that Ocean Drive, if you haven't been there, that road made me wish I had a convertible.
	Like that, that would be so cool.
	You know, just driving on Ocean Drive with that sea breeze window blowing.
	Typically, people who drive convertibles are bald.
	Yeah, I noticed that.
	I wonder if it's like a compensation thing.
	Like they feel old, but they want to, they are getting old, but they want to feel young again.
	So it's like the midlife crisis type of deal.
	I don't know.
	But anyway, so what is going on?
	I'm having an interesting time.
	Really, I want to get your impression on this just because you have a variety of different experiences that I don't have.
	Okay.
	It's a lady issue, of course, but this is of a different variety.
	Okay, I'm really excited at this one.
	I haven't gotten a question about a girl yet.
	All right.
	All right.
	Well, a bit about my life.
	I'm very reclusive.
	I've lived alone, kind of away from everybody for quite a long time.
	I'm a 24.
	I'm a virgin.
	I've never had a relationship, though women are interested in me mostly because of my eccentric nature, I would think, if I had to pin it down to one particular thing.
	How are they able to find you?
	Is this like, do you meet them on the internet?
	No, I go out and go someplace.
	And at school, it was particularly prevalent because, you know, I'm a good public speaker, so I would, you know, make cases and things like that.
	And people tend to like people who stand up and speak.
	Do you have like a goth kind of look or?
	A goth kind of look.
	I don't know what, like, I mean, because me, when I was a long time ago in high school, like these types, like the recluse types, they were goth.
	Maybe the times have changed.
	I wear jeans.
	I wear jeans and button-down shirts all the time.
	Okay, so you are not.
	And I sat alone, didn't talk to anybody, would make fun of people a lot.
	Now, if girls are interested in you, is it just the vibe or do you have like a look too, like a look that they like?
	I really don't know.
	I'm scrawny.
	I think my face is above average.
	I've been considered handsome before.
	Has anyone called you like a are you like a Chad, like a Chad face?
	A Chad face.
	I've got a little bit of a draw.
	I wouldn't say I'm walking around with the triangular hair yet, but let's call you a Chad Light.
	Okay.
	Okay, a Chad Light, yes.
	And, you know, I've never really dealt with relationships.
	I didn't understand even the point of them for most of my life, honestly.
	I was kind of the best of a particular Chad cell.
	A Chad Cell.
	Yes, I've heard that term before kicked around.
	Okay.
	Anyway.
	But yeah, anyway, I never actually wanted a relationship in my life until April.
	Something very strange happened to me in April where I woke up and I could almost, I don't know if you want to call it a vision or something, but I could almost see my past self when I was a teenager, really.
	And previously, I had a lot of issues when I was a teenager, just to make a long story short, and I was suicidal essentially.
	And I struggled with that for years.
	And so that dominated my life for a while.
	But then I could see myself as not as a victim, but also as an aggressor in a way.
	And I repented essentially for all the kind of morphic things that I did.
	And things changed for me instantly.
	I became attracted to women again.
	For the first time in my life, this has happened.
	So it's very new to me.
	Now, when you say you repented, do you mean you prayed or go to church?
	I prayed.
	Okay.
	All right.
	It's because it was so sudden and shocking.
	It affected my physiology.
	You know, my heart kind of was beating rapidly.
	There was a lot of things in my head.
	I had to get up.
	I was sweating.
	It was very intensive.
	And it lasted for like a week.
	And when you prayed, what is the Christian background that you had that kind of helped you in that?
	Were you Protestant, Catholic?
	I'm Protestant, so absolutely nothing.
	Okay, so you kind of just spoke to God based on what you felt.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	That's essentially what it is.
	That's fine.
	Sometimes that's all that we need to do.
	Anyway.
	Yeah.
	I have to call you because there's no people who are spiritual in my life or who can dispense with this kind of advice or, you know, people they just don't understand these kinds of things.
	It's kind of a difficult thing to discuss with a lot of people.
	Sure.
	That's why you are the last caller.
	Because I knew it.
	Yeah.
	Because I knew the last caller had to talk.
	How fortuitous?
	No, I really did not know.
	But yeah, I think there is a bit of quote-unquote luck.
	But anyway.
	Anyway, so getting to present day, I've been taking a lot of my work.
	I do a lot of like drafting, drawing work, and I go into the cafe to do that.
	And I had an encounter with one of the baristas who I thought was particularly, you know, pleasant.
	I had asked her out on a date out of a half a full of nothing.
	I saw how she treated the other customers, and I thought that she was well-mannered.
	You know, this was over an observation over a series of months, so it wasn't some split-second decision.
	And then she had a boyfriend, blah, blah, blah.
	And so I didn't go anywhere.
	But this kind of passionate intensity came over me suddenly.
	It kind of like a passionate intensity?
	Yes, this passion, like something like deep in my gut, kind of burning.
	Burning.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Was it in your gut or was it in your groin?
	My gut, not my groin.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Very much so in my body, my actual stomach.
	But that kind of speltered over me.
	It's the first time I've ever really experienced something like that before.
	I'm not asking so much for your prescriptive method on how to deal with the situation.
	Because I know, you know, it's far removed from you.
	And, you know, you really don't know me.
	But I kind of already know that I'm being tempted right now.
	And I kind of already know that she's into me.
	She's been giving like signals and such.
	But I want your take a synopsis on the situation as a whole in terms of both the odd event in April and what I'm experiencing now.
	Now, has anything happened yet?
	So have you guys gone out yet?
	No, she was dating somebody else.
	Okay.
	Are you still in touch with her, or is there still a flirtation going on in some manner when I arrive there?
	So I do go there regularly in order to do my work.
	It's very distracting now because I get that kind of burning sensation that I'm not used to that.
	Not in your groin, though, right?
	It's not there.
	Not in my groin.
	I promise you.
	Because if it's there, I think I know what the issue is.
	Now, what you experience in April, you know, again, it's very hard for me to diagnose or to none, but it seemed like grace was coming into you.
	That if you had the urge to repent and you have basically no church background and you felt the urge to maybe say apologize to God or to change your life in a moral way, to me, that sounds like grace.
	Now, everyone experiences grace in a different way, but that's what it sounds like.
	Now, grace is the turbo boost that God gives you to start your new life with Him.
	But generally speaking, after you receive grace, you want to start to find a church, read the Bible, read the New Testament, start to pray daily.
	So you kind of got a shot of grace, but it seems like you didn't feed it.
	It seems like you just kind of let it be a soul experience that maybe is carrying on a bit.
	I think maybe you have changed in some ways, but you didn't.
	It's kind of like you weren't, you didn't use it correctly, or you didn't amplify it to where it could really change you.
	It could really help you.
	That's what I sense.
	Is that something that sounds right?
	I mean, have you, after that experience in April, have you sought out like a deeper spiritual life or not?
	I started doing a prayer before and before I go to bed and after I rise in the morning.
	Okay, great.
	And do you do that still?
	Yes.
	Okay, good.
	Okay, good.
	Okay, so you did use that grace.
	Okay, so I was wrong.
	Okay, so you did use that grace.
	All right, great.
	So this is why I'm very hesitant to diagnose and give advice.
	There's only so much that you can guess.
	Anyway, so I'm glad that I did ask.
	So, okay, so you experience some grace and you're praying daily.
	Okay.
	And do you find that the prayers are comforting to you, helpful?
	Not so much comforting, but I noticed essentially that they can ground me a little bit in essence, just because my mind tends to go on far off tangents a lot.
	Okay.
	So in particular, it's difficult with the encounter with the woman for the first time to have to kind of deal with that, you know.
	Okay.
	With a careening mind.
	So now, when so now you're starting since April to serve God's will.
	That's what he's trying to guide you with, right?
	So trying to serve his will instead of your own will.
	So now let's get.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, I think that's what he does with people when he gives them a dose of grace like that to change their life almost overnight.
	So now we have the woman.
	What you're describing to me sounds like lust.
	That's what it sounds like.
	Unless you're looking at her as like a wife that you want to marry.
	If you look at her and said, that seems like a good woman, I want to marry her.
	It's possible.
	But you've been at home for a long time and now you don't really talk to a lot of people.
	You go out and here's a good-looking girl.
	To me, it sounds like lust.
	It seems like an open and shut case, which is normal.
	Even when you're in God's grace, yeah, Satan is going to tempt you.
	I mean, I'm going to put out a book in March that shows how once I was still in the app in the glow of this grace, the temptations I had to face were pretty hard.
	And I'm going to write about that.
	And well, the book is almost done.
	But anyway, the point is: so it sounds to me, unless your goal with her is just to marry her, anything outside of a standard Christian courtship where there's no intimacy and then a marriage that follows is going to be a temptation.
	So what does God want us to do?
	Does he want us to fornicate or to imagine having intimacy with a woman who's not a wife?
	At least what the Orthodox Church teaches is no.
	So now there's nothing wrong with talking to her and getting to know her, but as long as your goal is a courtship.
	And the problem is, what are the odds that she's down with that?
	Is she sexually active with the man that she's seeing now?
	I wouldn't understand the reason of dating someone for three years if there wasn't some sexual activity there.
	I mean, yeah.
	So, okay, she's a woman who has not the level of faith that you have right now.
	So your faith, maybe you may think your faith is small, but I mean, compared to the world where the world is going, your faith is strong, actually.
	So, okay, she's a woman who hasn't come to Christ and who's, let's put it in the stark terms, getting banged out.
	I mean, that's just kind of how it is.
	I'm guessing, is she a good-looking girl?
	Yes.
	Yeah, of course.
	So, I mean, if she wasn't like an ugly girl, that a lot of people didn't see the beauty in it.
	And you were like, I feel something in the gut.
	That could be God.
	But if she's a good-looking girl who works at your neighborhood coffee shop, that to me, it sounds like lust.
	And that's normal.
	It's okay.
	It's not wrong to have to allow to have these feelings at first, but you're going to have to fight this one because this doesn't sound like the right girl.
	And I know for a guy, and I just wanted to add before you go on, I'll give you time.
	Is that I know for you, if you've never been with a girl, yeah, there's that I'm missing out, you know, I'm missing out.
	But I hope my example of a guy who did that extensively and who does everything in his power and through prayer and through will of the mind to not remember those things I did should, I think, give you a moment to be a little bit pleased that you don't have, you're not burdened by these sins that you did because it is a burden.
	You cannot erase the sins.
	God forgives you, but your flesh remembers and it haunts you.
	So I wish, man, my walk with Christ would be a lot more peaceful.
	It would be a lot easier if I didn't do these horrible things.
	But then you can say, well, you would have come to Christ in a different way, which is fine.
	But the point I'm trying to make is don't get into it because you want to experience it.
	You know, and so then a lot of men are just not going to be able to accept what I'm telling them.
	So you want me to risk being a virgin for the rest of my life if I don't meet the right girl so that I can serve Christ in the kingdom of heaven with greater rewards for being chaste my life.
	Yes, that's what I'm saying.
	Because if you can maintain your walk with Christ, and it's still early on, and I pray that you can, your rewards for being chaste, for being pure as God intended, I would imagine it's going to be higher than mine.
	Yeah, I did come to Christ, but those sins are going to block how high I can go because I'm just, again, it's, you know, once your brain is wired in the wrong way, Christ can heal a lot of that, can heal a lot of that.
	But unless you get amnesia and forget everything, it still haunts you.
	It just, it's still there.
	And, you know, thank God that I think I've healed 80% or more from what I've done, but it's still there.
	It's still there.
	I have to be careful.
	You know, I'm careful the way I look at a woman.
	Unfortunately, sometimes the old game me when I'm talking to one comes on and I don't, you know, it's not, I'm not even doing it in a conscious way because I wired my brain in a sinful way.
	So that's something that I'm only on year two, going on year two, and I have a good feeling that give me a few more years, it's going to be better and better.
	But you're not missing out on anything, on anything.
	I don't care how hot these girls are, how sexy.
	You're not missing out on anything.
	You're missing out on a momentary dose of pleasure that condemns you for eternity.
	That's it.
	Again, you're not missing out.
	Please do not masturbate.
	No pornography.
	I mean, your spiritual state could be very, very high.
	It could end up very, very high.
	I mean, you're, you know, I'm jealous.
	You know, I know a lot of men when I was deep in the game, they were jealous of me.
	And I look back and like, they were jealous of a dang fool.
	A dang fool.
	I'm jealous of a guy like you who didn't fall that hard or who hardly fell, let's say.
	But, but Satan is going to work on you.
	He's going to work on you every single day.
	He's not going to stop.
	He's not going to stop.
	And he doesn't stop on me either.
	So what you're going to have to do is kind of, I think you have started off pretty good.
	This temptation from the girl, you know, that's going to happen again and again.
	And I think as Christ, he changes you, he takes you out into the world.
	I think he's going to want to bring you out into the world to be a witness, to be a witness to what God can do, like he's doing to me.
	So he's going to take you out into the world.
	And if you are a Chad Light, then yeah, there's going to be other girls.
	But hey, they have to do it in the right way.
	If I were you, I would look into joining a church.
	I think that the Orthodox Church can handle where you are and can guide you.
	I would strongly urge you to check it out.
	I recently in my blog wrote an article how to join the Orthodox Church.
	It's just, you have to scroll down.
	I actually took some of that advice.
	I went to, how does it pronounce?
	The Antiochian Church?
	Yes, yes.
	That is how it's called.
	Yes.
	And how did you go?
	It was strange.
	It was quite strange because people were wearing masks everywhere.
	And, you know, a lot of pew-sitting.
	And, you know, I'm not used to the whole iconography thing, but it was very cool.
	I must admit.
	Very cool.
	Have you also?
	Oh, yeah.
	The tones, too, the whole, you know, I really can't do it.
	I don't want to mock it, you know.
	But the whole enunciation of things.
	The tones, how they, you know, Lord, have mercy.
	Lord, the intonations.
	God, I love it.
	It was kind of weird in that way.
	One other option for you that could have less masks is the Russian Orthodox Church.
	They're pretty good with that.
	So if you're out of the city, I would try them too.
	But the service itself is not that different.
	If you go from the liturgy, from the Antiochian to the Russian Orthodox Church abroad, which does the English, it's not that different.
	But I can tell you, if you've never been to the Orthodox Church and you go, yeah, it's something else.
	It's very different.
	It takes about five or six times of going till you start to get used to it.
	And soon you're like me, you start to crave it.
	You feel most comfortable there.
	But give it a bit of time.
	See if there's a Russian Orthodox Church there.
	All right.
	And that's what I would say.
	But have you, did you talk to the priest there?
	There was essentially no time to talk to him.
	It was very unfortunate.
	I've had that.
	Because the coffee hours are closed.
	The whole after hours are closed.
	I find theirs is a little bit less fear-based, unfortunately.
	And I like the Antiochian church.
	But yeah, from parish to parish, you can get some that are, I mean, what?
	You profess belief in God and you can't even talk to me without a mask.
	Yeah, I mean, those kind of thoughts come into my head, whether they're correct or not.
	I don't know.
	But yeah, don't give up.
	I know some people, they had to search for a church for a, it seemed like weeks and weeks and weeks until they found something.
	So don't give up on that.
	But I think to go to go it without a church, to not have a priest to talk to about this concern that you're talking to me, because I'm not going to always be here to guide you, let's say.
	But a priest will.
	And he's going to have way more spiritual knowledge than me.
	Well, I pretend to agree with that, most certainly.
	Okay, good.
	I think you're on the right path.
	And the fact that you called, you know, is a good sign.
	So, yeah, I think you're doing pretty well for where you are in terms of your age, too.
	Hello?
	Caller?
	Oh, I guess he got disconnected.
	That's okay.
	We were towards the end.
	Or, you know what?
	I think I got disconnected.
	Oh, that's actually me.
	Well, I think we got to the end anyway, so I was able to help him.
	Hopefully, yeah, it looks like my thing went out anyway.
	Oh, because they have a five-hour limit or something.
	So I hit the limit for the caller because it's inhuman for anyone to go this long.
	All right.
	So, I, guys, I'm done.
	I'm tired.
	Tired.
	We did five hours and ten minutes.
	I wanted to thank all of the callers, even the ones who were difficult.
	You know, I appreciate all calls just because I don't agree with you.
	What else do I have to say?
	We didn't talk about any news today, really.
	No up-to-date news, which is good.
	But my next live stream will be like the standard one.
	I think I'm going to make this ruche hour number 56.
	So, just for people who want some extra content, they're bored and they're in the bar, but I'm not going to feature this as like a must-watch.
	But I think it was fun.
	We talked to a lot of people.
	I think you can see where a lot of men are at, where they are in terms of their faith and life and how they're dealing with the lockdowns.
	And it's good.
	It's good that we can see that and we can talk to these people and know what is going on.
	Hopefully, we can get through all of the difficulties.
	You know, I pray that God helps us to endure, to endure.
	And I think he will.
	I think as long as you make the choice to get your strength from God, he's going to give you all the strength that you can deal with.
	That's one thing I've been learning the past couple of months.
	But you have to make that choice.
	You really have to say, God, I trust you.
	Give me strength to deal with this.
	If you don't, He's not going to force you.
	He's not going to force His grace upon you.
	He's not going to force anything.
	But the more I accept I am weak, the more God is there for me.
	Because what did He say?
	He said, His strength, His strength is made perfect in weakness.
	So I think that's what St. Paul said.
	Okay, everyone.
	And thank you for all of the super chats and the lemons on D Live.
	I appreciate that.
	I had a nice talk with you all in the chats.
	You had some funny chats in there.
	Thank you, everyone.

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