The StoneZONE - Roger Stone - The Stone Zone | 01-09-26
Aired: 2026-01-10
Duration: 39:25


=== Portland Law Enforcement Controversy (14:33) ===

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[00:00:26]  Well, I'm really, I'm really kind of confused, but totally sure and on solid ground at the same time.
[00:00:39]  I know that that officer did nothing wrong and quite frankly should be at work, back at work, and no problem whatsoever.
[00:00:49]  There are United States senators calling for his prosecution.
[00:00:54]  This is, you know, you have to have a certain set of shared values, don't you?
[00:00:59]  Do we, now I'm even thrown further because there are some people.
[00:01:03]  Now, granted, they're all women.
[00:01:05]  And I say that, well, whatever.
[00:01:08]  I said it.
[00:01:08]  I know a few smart women who are telling me that this is, well, he could have done this.
[00:01:13]  He could have done that.
[00:01:14]  The cop.
[00:01:15]  And I'm just taking aback somewhat because these are conservatives, right?
[00:01:19]  And they're pretty sensible people.
[00:01:23]  But they're totally wrong on this one.
[00:01:25]  They're totally and completely wrong.
[00:01:29]  That poor guy is going through a lot right now.
[00:01:31]  The guy who did this.
[00:01:34]  Now, he's in the paper.
[00:01:36]  Have you seen the reporting about him?
[00:01:38]  All-round great guy, military veteran.
[00:01:43]  He is married with children, and he's going through potentially hell right now.
[00:01:49]  I mean, he doesn't deserve it.
[00:01:52]  Where is this all going?
[00:01:54]  It doesn't seem to be dying down.
[00:01:55]  I know they want to turn this into George Floyd part two, which would be terrible, but it could happen.
[00:02:03]  It could happen.
[00:02:04]  We're on the way.
[00:02:06]  A lot of spineless people out there just want this to, they're going to exploit it and try to make money out of it and gain power and the rest.
[00:02:16]  Really?
[00:02:16]  Tim Waltz said it all, didn't he?
[00:02:19]  Tim Waltz, he was on to something, wasn't he?
[00:02:23]  Cut four.
[00:02:24]  We've got a golden rule.
[00:02:26]  Mind your own damn business.
[00:02:28]  Mind your own damn business.
[00:02:30]  Just mind your own business.
[00:02:31]  Mind your own damn business on things.
[00:02:34]  And the thing that makes communities work really, really well is that golden rule.
[00:02:38]  Mind your own damn business.
[00:02:39]  Mind your own damn business.
[00:02:42]  She went and she parked at this at a law enforcement operation right in the middle of it.
[00:02:48]  And we believe she did it because she was basically a part-time agitator when it came to ICE.
[00:02:55]  She was using one of those apps that track ICE so people can show up and screw with ICE.
[00:03:02]  This is a thing they did.
[00:03:04]  They love to kind of is there's a program for this.
[00:03:07]  Listen to this.
[00:03:08]  Joshua Aaron, he created an app that would track ICE so members of the community could come out and screw with ICE.
[00:03:17]  Cut 10.
[00:03:17]  Well, IceBlock in itself is not a safety risk.
[00:03:20]  You know, IceBlock serves as an early warning system and was simply a crowdsourced early warning system where users could say, I publicly see ICE agents, immigration and custom enforcement agents doing something in public.
[00:03:34]  They have a raid, black issue, pull up, whatever.
[00:03:36]  When they report that on the app, it simply notifies people within a five-mile radius of that sighting so that they can avoid the area.
[00:03:47]  And then what?
[00:03:48]  Avoid the area.
[00:03:49]  Obviously, it can be used.
[00:03:50]  Oh, there they are.
[00:03:51]  Let's go to the area and mess with them and screw with them and make their lives difficult and break the law right in front of them.
[00:04:02]  And we'll break the law again.
[00:04:03]  And then we'll try to kill one of them and scream murder when they defend themselves.
[00:04:10]  And by the way, the woman who did this, according to the media, she's just a, you know, she's a 37-year-old mom.
[00:04:17]  That's it.
[00:04:18]  37-year-old mom.
[00:04:21]  It just sounds righteous somehow.
[00:04:23]  I don't think it makes any difference.
[00:04:25]  Just about all the presidential assassins, I mean, Lee R. V. Oswald, who was part of it, but wasn't the part of it.
[00:04:34]  He was a married father with children and a veteran.
[00:04:41]  Let's see here.
[00:04:42]  You can just, oh, the young man who shot Charlie Kirk was an aspiring college student.
[00:04:50]  These evil monsters here.
[00:04:51]  Listen to this little angel.
[00:04:52]  She's just an angel, right?
[00:04:53]  Cut nine, please.
[00:04:54]  Cut nine.
[00:04:56]  37-year-old Renee Goode.
[00:04:58]  She was the mother of a six-year-old.
[00:05:01]  We do understand, according to city leaders, that she was here as a legal observer.
[00:05:06]  She wasn't a terrorist.
[00:05:08]  She wasn't a criminal.
[00:05:10]  She was a mom.
[00:05:11]  We would believe this woman was some domestic terrorist, which she was not.
[00:05:16]  This is a 37-year-old woman, mother, white woman at that.
[00:05:22]  White woman at that.
[00:05:23]  What do you mean by that, Reverend Al?
[00:05:26]  What's that supposed to mean?
[00:05:28]  I don't know what that's actually supposed to mean, coming from Reverend Al.
[00:05:31]  A white woman at that.
[00:05:33]  Well, Al for a long time only thought injustice happened to people of color.
[00:05:40]  Not that this is an injustice.
[00:05:42]  We know it's not, but he thinks it is.
[00:05:44]  He usually only cares about injustice to people of color.
[00:05:46]  A white woman?
[00:05:47]  How about that?
[00:05:48]  I'm even commenting on a white woman.
[00:05:49]  I'm showing sympathy for a white woman.
[00:05:52]  I'm usually busy calling them Karens.
[00:05:55]  I'm looking at a situation in Minnesota.
[00:05:58]  Now these guys can barely move without Black Lives Matter and the sisterhood and everything else showing up.
[00:06:05]  The band of vegans, right?
[00:06:08]  Just every whack job group in the book is showing up.
[00:06:12]  Now for a change, it looks like, guess who's stepping in to help them?
[00:06:18]  Because I don't think they cannot help them at this point.
[00:06:23]  They would be violating the law is the local police, the local police in Minneapolis.
[00:06:30]  I think there's some provision under the law that they have to assist.
[00:06:33]  They weren't assisting the first time.
[00:06:36]  They only came once a person was dead.
[00:06:39]  Actually, what do we have here?
[00:06:43]  Oh, mayor of Portland, Keith Wilson.
[00:06:46]  Mayor of Portland.
[00:06:47]  Portland, Oregon is in the news because DHS agents fired upon a illegal alien criminal who was wanted.
[00:06:57]  We don't have all the circumstances, but all the information.
[00:07:00]  They didn't care.
[00:07:02]  All they wanted to do was hold a press conference and condemn ICE, CUT 12.
[00:07:07]  We shared not just our concerns, but our grief for the families who are suffering and grief for the recklessness of our federal government.
[00:07:17]  The administration is trying to divide us, to pit communities against one another, to make us fear one another.
[00:07:27]  Make us fear one another.
[00:07:29]  They had this thing.
[00:07:30]  They had about 75 people, including the governor, come out and make a statement complaining about the federal government.
[00:07:36]  All they knew that, well, basically, that an illegal sex offender was on the loose in Portland.
[00:07:43]  They got away from DHS and they came out and condemned the federal government.
[00:07:48]  This is the governor.
[00:07:50]  Everybody, they all kind of look the same, right?
[00:07:52]  Go ahead.
[00:07:53]  We are standing here today, united as a state, wanting peace and safety in our communities.
[00:08:01]  We are all shaken and outraged by another terrible, unnecessary, violent event instigated by the reckless agenda of the Trump administration.
[00:08:12]  This time in our own state, in our largest city, coming just one day after the tragedy in Minnesota.
[00:08:18]  Well, here's what she's moaning about.
[00:08:22]  From Homeland Security.
[00:08:23]  At 2.19 Pacific Time yesterday, U.S. Border Patrol agents were conducting a targeted vehicle stop in Portland, Oregon.
[00:08:30]  The passenger of the vehicle and target is a Venezuelan illegal alien affiliated with the transnational Trende Aragua prostitution ring and involved in a recent shooting in Portland.
[00:08:41]  The vehicle driver is believed to be a member of the vicious Venezuelan gang Trende Aragua.
[00:08:47]  When agents identify themselves to the vehicle occupants, the driver weaponized his vehicle and attempted to run over the law enforcement agents.
[00:08:54]  Fearing for his life and safety, an agent fired a defensive shot.
[00:08:59]  The driver drove off with the passenger fleeing the scene.
[00:09:01]  The situation is evolving.
[00:09:03]  More information is forthcoming.
[00:09:07]  And that's all that the governor and the mayor had at that moment.
[00:09:11]  Police are allowed to defend themselves and that their very legitimacy now is falling into question.
[00:09:19]  And I just, I kind of don't know where this, does it peter out like everything else tends to peter out?
[00:09:26]  Do we just kind of move on and people start looking at something else?
[00:09:29]  And you know what I'd love to do is talk to Victor Davis Hansen right now.
[00:09:32]  Unfortunately, he's undergoing treatment.
[00:09:35]  He's actually had cancer surgery.
[00:09:38]  So he won't be with us for a while, but he'll be back.
[00:09:41]  You know, there are a handful of wise men in America.
[00:09:46]  Victor Davis Hansen is definitely one of them.
[00:09:49]  Mark Levin is another.
[00:09:53]  You know, we used to have dozens.
[00:09:55]  I say Donald Trump and JD Vance, too.
[00:09:58]  And speaking of JD Vance, I think he kind of set the record straight and drew a line in the sand.
[00:10:06]  Okay.
[00:10:07]  Number one, six, six.
[00:10:09]  I stand with ICE.
[00:10:10]  We stand with all of our law enforcement officers.
[00:10:13]  And part of that is recognizing that you people in the media, not everybody in this room, but many people in this room have been lying about this attack.
[00:10:21]  She was trying to ram this guy with her car.
[00:10:26]  He shot back.
[00:10:27]  He defended himself.
[00:10:29]  He's already been seriously wounded in law enforcement operations before.
[00:10:32]  And everybody who's been repeating the lie that this is some innocent woman who was out for a drive in Minneapolis when a law enforcement officer shot at her, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
[00:10:42]  Every single one of you.
[00:10:43]  Questions?
[00:10:44]  Hey, stop everything.
[00:10:46]  Oh my gosh.
[00:10:48]  This is this is I have not seen this yet.
[00:10:52]  Let me see.
[00:10:52]  How old is this?
[00:10:54]  It just came out.
[00:10:55]  This is breaking news.
[00:10:56]  We have point of view footage from the ICE agent who was rammed by the anti-ICE activist Renee Goode in Minneapolis, and it's just been released.
[00:11:06]  He was clearly not just hit, but hit hard.
[00:11:10]  And we actually see, okay, do me a favor, take this right away.
[00:11:14]  It will only take me a moment.
[00:11:16]  We're going to make sure.
[00:11:18]  I'm sending it to you, Carlos, right now.
[00:11:20]  This is possibly going to settle it once and for all, but I'm watching it here.
[00:11:26]  Let's see.
[00:11:28]  Okay.
[00:11:30]  I have to turn the sound up and we can't do that until you have it.
[00:11:32]  And it's okay.
[00:11:33]  All right.
[00:11:34]  But this is the cleanest view we're going to have of anything.
[00:11:38]  And I see Renee Goode right in her face.
[00:11:41]  She says something to the cop.
[00:11:44]  How could you?
[00:11:44]  What's going on there?
[00:11:46]  I wonder if they're making.
[00:11:47]  Oh my God.
[00:11:49]  Tell me as soon as it's done.
[00:11:50]  Any bad words?
[00:11:52]  No bad words, right?
[00:11:53]  Okay, hit it.
[00:11:55]  Oh, there are some curses.
[00:11:57]  Damn it.
[00:11:58]  All right.
[00:12:00]  Alpha News.
[00:12:01]  I just had Liz Collin on one of my videos.
[00:12:03]  She's the founder of Alpha News up there in Minnesota.
[00:12:07]  It's interesting.
[00:12:08]  Sometimes you get dealt a bad break.
[00:12:10]  Her husband was a police officer during George Floyd, and she was one of their star news anchors.
[00:12:17]  After George Floyd, they started picketing his house.
[00:12:21]  Everybody knew he was like the top chief.
[00:12:24]  She worked at the TV station.
[00:12:26]  She had to quit.
[00:12:27]  I think he had to quit.
[00:12:28]  I can't wait to hear what she says here.
[00:12:32]  We see her look right in the camera and she says something to the cop.
[00:12:36]  And the cop is actually videoing it.
[00:12:39]  And the wife is videoing him.
[00:12:42]  We're going to hear a lot of information as soon as it ready.
[00:12:45]  Okay, we'll take a quick break.
[00:12:47]  All right.
[00:12:48]  And then I think we're going to be shocked.
[00:12:51]  All right.
[00:12:52]  Give me 90 seconds.
[00:12:53]  Okay.
[00:12:54]  We'll be right back with the newest piece of information.
[00:12:59]  Newest piece of evidence and the most important piece of evidence.
[00:13:02]  Be right back with that.
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[00:14:14]  All right, here it is.
[00:14:15]  It is the closest.
[00:14:16]  It is the best angle so far.
[00:14:20]  It tells a lot.
[00:14:22]  It doesn't tell everything.
[00:14:23]  You don't see the...
[00:14:24]  It looks...
[00:14:25]  Okay, what happens is this.
[00:14:28]  The man who ultimately pulls the trigger is approaching the vehicle from the other side.

=== Approaching From The Mad Side (15:04) ===

[00:14:34]  You know, those two officers who approach, right?
[00:14:37]  And they're the ones who say, get out of the car.
[00:14:39]  Well, just before that, the ICE officer who pulls the trigger ultimately is approaching from the other side.
[00:14:44]  And all he's doing is videotaping the vehicle.
[00:14:48]  He goes once around the vehicle.
[00:14:50]  The first voice you're going to hear is Renee Good, who is cheerful and says, I'm not mad at you.
[00:15:00]  Or, dude, you're fine.
[00:15:02]  I'm not going to, you know, I'm not mad at you.
[00:15:04]  And then right after that, he goes to the back of the car and the wife is there.
[00:15:12]  And the wife is taunting him.
[00:15:15]  It's just being so vicious and mean and stupid.
[00:15:18]  And then he goes further around.
[00:15:20]  She follows him, taunts him even more.
[00:15:23]  And then he does like a 360s all the way around.
[00:15:26]  And as the other cops come up, you hear, get out of the car, get out of the car.
[00:15:30]  That's when she hits the gas.
[00:15:32]  And then the camera, you hear him go, ooh, like he was hit by a car.
[00:15:38]  You don't see him pull the trigger because the camera is kind of like tumbling at that point.
[00:15:43]  But this is what we call very, very exculpatory.
[00:15:47]  All right.
[00:15:48]  Not probably the best video to have so far.
[00:15:51]  Well, this is just, this is the same.
[00:15:53]  This is pretty damn good.
[00:15:55]  Go ahead and hit it.
[00:15:56]  Let's see.
[00:16:11]  the driver.
[00:16:13]  I'm not mad at you.
[00:16:14]  No, you're fake.
[00:16:16]  I'm not mad at you.
[00:16:16]  It's okay.
[00:16:16]  We don't change our plates every morning.
[00:16:19]  Just so you know.
[00:16:19]  It's the wife.
[00:16:20]  It'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later.
[00:16:22]  That's fine.
[00:16:23]  You have citizen formal.
[00:16:26]  You want to come at us?
[00:16:27]  You want to come at us?
[00:16:29]  I said, go get yourself some lunch, big boy.
[00:16:31]  Go ahead.
[00:16:32]  Now the car.
[00:16:33]  Get out of the car.
[00:16:35]  Get out of the car.
[00:16:36]  I did not touch.
[00:16:37]  Whoa.
[00:16:41]  All right.
[00:16:45]  Does that kind of make sense?
[00:16:47]  Probably not.
[00:16:49]  Let's take it from the top.
[00:16:50]  All right.
[00:16:51]  We'll take it from the very top.
[00:16:53]  Just before we start, the officer who pulls the trigger, ultimately, right?
[00:16:58]  This is his camera, not his body camera, but a cell phone that he's holding up, recording, well, everything he's seeing.
[00:17:06]  He goes up to the Honda pilot parked in the middle of the street.
[00:17:11]  He's about at this point, maybe 15 feet away on the passenger's side.
[00:17:18]  Okay.
[00:17:18]  One, two, three, hit it.
[00:17:32]  He's now at the front of the car.
[00:17:37]  Driver's talking to him.
[00:17:38]  I'm not medicine.
[00:17:39]  I'm not mad at you, she said.
[00:17:41]  Just looking, we don't change our plates.
[00:17:42]  This is the wife outside the car.
[00:17:44]  It'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later.
[00:17:47]  She's holding up the camera.
[00:17:50]  You want to come at us?
[00:17:54]  She's talking to me.
[00:17:56]  Go ahead.
[00:17:56]  He's calling him fat.
[00:17:58]  Here come the other cops on the other side.
[00:18:00]  Now he's in front of the car.
[00:18:04]  She hit him.
[00:18:05]  She hit him.
[00:18:07]  She hit him with the car.
[00:18:08]  That's what's apparent here.
[00:18:10]  Also, that wife.
[00:18:12]  So nasty.
[00:18:14]  Nasty.
[00:18:15]  And the dumb woman going along with it.
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[00:18:28]  The video you're about to watch is disturbing, but we cannot look away.
[00:18:36]  Oh, my fing God!
[00:18:39]  What the f!
[00:18:40]  I am horrified by the footage that we just watched and eyewitness accounts of ICE agents shooting someone in the head and killing them.
[00:18:51]  Chrissy Noam and the Trump administration are lying.
[00:18:55]  This is not self-defense.
[00:18:57]  This is murder.
[00:19:00]  And this is what happens when a corrupt federal administration floods a city with masked ICE thugs and treats American cities like occupied territory.
[00:19:11]  I stand with Minnesota leaders.
[00:19:13]  ICE must get out of our cities now.
[00:19:16]  Christy Noam must go.
[00:19:19]  Now, that'd be one thing if you heard it from, I don't know, some disgruntled individual at Washington Square Park, right?
[00:19:26]  Smoking weed.
[00:19:27]  But that's the United States Senator.
[00:19:30]  And they're all like this, right?
[00:19:31]  This one happens to be Marky, Democrat from Massachusetts, right?
[00:19:35]  Calling it murder like that.
[00:19:37]  Now, whether he believes that or not, kind of irrelevant.
[00:19:41]  There's two things.
[00:19:42]  He might just believe it, or he's just so intimidated and scared by the hard left of his party because they call the shots.
[00:19:48]  You know, they really are in control and they're under enormous pressure, pressure to do more and be more outrageous and be more like them.
[00:19:56]  And they're vulnerable to it, especially a guy like Ed Markey, right?
[00:20:00]  Because for the Democrat wacko party, an older white man is like just not particularly cool.
[00:20:06]  And it's all about optics with these idiots, right?
[00:20:09]  All about what's on the outside, not what's on the inside, right?
[00:20:12]  So he's looking right in the camera.
[00:20:14]  It's the most bizarre thing.
[00:20:15]  He's like, really, it's desperate.
[00:20:18]  It's fierce.
[00:20:19]  It's all, it's, it's a lot of things all at the same time.
[00:20:22]  It's a really strange individual, but he's not the only one.
[00:20:27]  All right.
[00:20:27]  This is formerly sane people giving into the mob.
[00:20:31]  They join the mob, right?
[00:20:33]  They didn't want to, but they did.
[00:20:35]  And now they're full, compliant adherence to mob, the mob, the rule of the mob.
[00:20:41]  I want to play this video one more time.
[00:20:43]  The more I watch it, the more.
[00:20:45]  Yeah, this is a, this is, this shows that he got hit.
[00:20:48]  I think you can hear how he actually gets hit.
[00:20:50]  All right.
[00:20:50]  So does it work when I describe it?
[00:20:53]  I'll just describe it once.
[00:20:54]  I'll tell you what I'm seeing, and I'll get out whenever somebody is talking.
[00:20:58]  All right.
[00:20:58]  You'll play it.
[00:20:59]  This is the officer who pulls the trigger.
[00:21:01]  He's approaching the Honda pilot that has this Renee Good woman sitting in there.
[00:21:06]  Now she's smiling and happy, right?
[00:21:08]  She's breaking the law, but she's smiling.
[00:21:10]  Oh, oh, I'm not mad at you, officer.
[00:21:12]  I'm not mad at you.
[00:21:13]  You know, I don't know why she's saying that or not saying that.
[00:21:17]  I am slightly surprised, you know, that she does look rather cheerful, but I know the type of like, oh, I'm not mad at you.
[00:21:24]  I'm mad at the system.
[00:21:25]  You're just doing your job, bro.
[00:21:26]  I get that.
[00:21:27]  Yeah, I know, but you are hindering us from doing our job, right?
[00:21:31]  You're here in the middle of the street.
[00:21:32]  Again, you don't get shot for that.
[00:21:34]  But when you turn your vehicle into a weapon, whether it be intentional or unintentional, that's when fatal force can be used.
[00:21:42]  Because this man, I believe, had a reasonable expectation that if he did not shoot, he would be killed and/or seriously injured.
[00:21:52]  And that would make the use of deadly force completely justified.
[00:21:55]  All right.
[00:21:56]  So he's approaching the Honda pilot.
[00:21:58]  I can see about half the car.
[00:21:59]  He's 15 feet away approaching from the passenger side.
[00:22:03]  You do not see the officer who's holding this camera once.
[00:22:06]  It's not body camera.
[00:22:08]  It looks like it's personal cell phone camera that he took.
[00:22:11]  All right.
[00:22:11]  Let's do it again.
[00:22:12]  One, two, three, go.
[00:22:17]  He comes out of the car.
[00:22:22]  Going to the front of her car.
[00:22:24]  It's Honda.
[00:22:25]  All right.
[00:22:26]  I see the grill.
[00:22:26]  I see her in her seat.
[00:22:28]  She cleans out the car.
[00:22:30]  That's fine, dude.
[00:22:31]  I'm not mad at the wife.
[00:22:32]  That's fine, dude.
[00:22:32]  I'm not mad at you.
[00:22:33]  But what about the wife?
[00:22:34]  We don't change our plates every morning, just so you know.
[00:22:37]  And they'll be in the same fight when you come talk to us later.
[00:22:40]  That's fine.
[00:22:40]  You are citizen fully.
[00:22:43]  You want to come at us?
[00:22:45]  You want to come at us?
[00:22:46]  I said, go get yourself some lunch, big boy.
[00:22:48]  She's saying, you want to come at us as she follows him.
[00:22:51]  Now he's back in the front of the car.
[00:22:57]  Yeah.
[00:22:59]  At that point, he thought he might be dragged.
[00:23:03]  Who knows?
[00:23:04]  We'll find out from him.
[00:23:05]  But the car hit him.
[00:23:07]  There's a dog in the back seat, by the way.
[00:23:10]  Contrary to numerous reports, there was no passenger in this car.
[00:23:14]  The wife was trying to get back in.
[00:23:17]  Like the cops were trying to open the door on her.
[00:23:20]  She went, why would she be happy?
[00:23:23]  I don't have a problem with you as if she's calling all the shots.
[00:23:25]  I don't ever, I'm not angry at you, dude.
[00:23:29]  Well, again, her demeanor doesn't really matter.
[00:23:35]  It doesn't matter.
[00:23:36]  The wife is such a vicious B-I-T-C-H.
[00:23:40]  When they go to the back and she starts talking about license plates, we don't change our license plates every time.
[00:23:44]  It'll be the same when we get back, dude.
[00:23:46]  He takes a video.
[00:23:47]  He's taking a video of the license plate, which is from Missouri, by the way.
[00:23:51]  A lot of people are, you know, she's a Minnesota person, Minnesota person.
[00:23:54]  Turns out the reports of the Missouri connection are very, very true.
[00:23:58]  I want to do this one more time, all right?
[00:24:00]  Because I want to see everything we can possibly see in this thing and hear everything we can possibly hear.
[00:24:05]  Starting from the beginning, he's on the east side or the passenger side.
[00:24:08]  One, two, three, go.
[00:24:13]  Gets out of his car, approaches, goes to the front of the car, circles around to where the driver is.
[00:24:20]  She leans out.
[00:24:25]  That's fine.
[00:24:27]  That's fine, dude.
[00:24:28]  I'm not mad at you.
[00:24:28]  Her last words.
[00:24:29]  Look, hey, we don't change our plates every morning.
[00:24:35]  That's fine.
[00:24:36]  You have citizen points.
[00:24:37]  He's walking away back towards the front of the car.
[00:24:40]  She follows him.
[00:24:41]  You want to come?
[00:24:42]  Get yourself some lunch, big boy.
[00:24:44]  Go ahead.
[00:24:44]  Insults him for being overweight.
[00:24:47]  She tries to get back in.
[00:24:48]  He's crying.
[00:24:49]  She hits the gas.
[00:24:51]  Shoots.
[00:24:55]  Justified.
[00:24:56]  Justified.
[00:24:57]  Well, couldn't he have?
[00:24:58]  No, actually, the car hit him.
[00:25:01]  You know, I think you're if you're going to give me a gun and a car is about to run me over.
[00:25:07]  This is an option I have.
[00:25:08]  May not be a perfect option, but it's an option.
[00:25:12]  Let's see here.
[00:25:12]  Pamela, hello.
[00:25:14]  Hey, but these two were playing games.
[00:25:17]  They were playing Predator and Prey.
[00:25:19]  They were playing games with the agents.
[00:25:22]  And guess what?
[00:25:23]  They lost.
[00:25:24]  They meant business.
[00:25:25]  They were doing, they were up to no good.
[00:25:28]  They were luring them in, probably so they could get a better shot at them, you know, running them down.
[00:25:32]  And they played the game and they lost.
[00:25:36]  Well, listen, I don't like those phrases, to be honest.
[00:25:40]  I don't like, you know, you played the game, you got lost.
[00:25:42]  You effed around and you found out.
[00:25:45]  You know, I just, there's something I don't, I mean, I don't, I you're right.
[00:25:50]  They did all those things.
[00:25:52]  And you can do all those things without being shot, except to the point where she hit the gas and tried to run over the guy.
[00:25:58]  You know, that's not a game.
[00:25:59]  That's that's attempted murder, right?
[00:26:01]  All the other stuff is a bit of a game and also dangerous and law-breaking.
[00:26:05]  You know, she played a game and they lost.
[00:26:08]  You know, that's that's fake tough guy talk.
[00:26:11]  And I'm kind of done with that too.
[00:26:12]  I hear it on their side.
[00:26:13]  I hear it on our side.
[00:26:14]  I hear FO.
[00:26:15]  Both sides say F around and find out.
[00:26:17]  You know what I mean?
[00:26:19]  They broke the law.
[00:26:20]  Yes.
[00:26:22]  And none of that was under penalty of, you know, whatever the law says.
[00:26:26]  Parking your car in the middle of the street on purpose to obstruct a federal investigation.
[00:26:32]  I bet if that's prosecuted, it's a five-year prison sentence.
[00:26:36]  Resisting arrest?
[00:26:38]  I don't know.
[00:26:38]  What is that?
[00:26:39]  Actually, in New York City, I don't think it's even a crime anymore.
[00:26:42]  You're allowed to resist arrest.
[00:26:43]  Can you believe that?
[00:26:45]  I don't know.
[00:26:46]  They accumulated a lot of crime.
[00:26:48]  Probably wouldn't have gone to jail for it, but would have been convicted of something or pled to something.
[00:26:53]  But when she hit the gas pedal, that's when it ramped up to attempted murder or possible murder.
[00:26:59]  And that's the thing that you get shot for.
[00:27:01]  Does that make sense, Pamela?
[00:27:02]  I don't want to be, I'm not going squishy or weird or woke on you.
[00:27:07]  Hey, I had a job full of danger.
[00:27:11]  And you got a lot of it.
[00:27:13]  I taught emotionally disturbed high school level.
[00:27:16]  I taught the bloods in the crypts.
[00:27:18]  I had females who threatened my life.
[00:27:20]  Where the hell were you the teacher?
[00:27:22]  Why didn't you get a better school?
[00:27:23]  Where'd you go?
[00:27:24]  Where were you the teacher?
[00:27:25]  Well, I was good at my job.
[00:27:27]  I know, but where?
[00:27:28]  Well, I don't want to say.
[00:27:29]  Oh, give me a break.
[00:27:31]  It was probably Fort Lee, New Jersey.
[00:27:33]  It wasn't that bad.
[00:27:34]  No, it was the Patterson area.
[00:27:37]  Oh, Patterson.
[00:27:38]  Now that's the hood.
[00:27:39]  I hear you.
[00:27:41]  That's pretty serious stuff.
[00:27:42]  Although lately it's gone all Arab.
[00:27:44]  You know that, right?
[00:27:45]  Well, part of it is, yeah, a major part of it.
[00:27:48]  Yeah, that's where the crime is in New Jersey.
[00:27:50]  Oh, boy.
[00:27:51]  Well, I'm glad you got the hell out of there.
[00:27:53]  I'm sorry to be so blunt, but it's true.
[00:27:56]  The job in that school district had got, it's like 10 times, 1,000 times more challenging than doing it in, let's say, a different zip code.
[00:28:05]  I know what it's like to be threatened and to handle it.
[00:28:08]  And I was damn good at my job.
[00:28:09]  I won a governor's award from my colleagues for teacher of the year.
[00:28:12]  What governor was it?
[00:28:13]  Well, it doesn't make any problem.
[00:28:15]  I'm impressed.
[00:28:16]  I'm impressed, Pamela.
[00:28:17]  And all right, so you used to be getting, you know what danger's like.
[00:28:20]  Anybody ever pull a gun on you?
[00:28:22]  I had a girl tell me that she had a lot of knives at home.
[00:28:25]  Well, the hallway was crowded, and I felt a sharp pain in my back.
[00:28:32]  And I was like, oh, crap, she got me.
[00:28:36]  I mean, that's the way you do your job.
[00:28:38]  You know, it's like, oh, uh-oh.
[00:28:40]  But luckily, it was a, somebody smashed into me with a notebook, a sharp notebook, and I was relieved.
[00:28:45]  But she was expelled because she did threaten my life.
[00:28:48]  And then I had another one who threatened to kill all the cheerleaders.
[00:28:52]  And he, you know, he came to me because he trusted me that maybe in some weird way I would help him.
[00:28:59]  And I had to tell the cheerleaders, they were being very nice and trying to console him.
[00:29:03]  And I said, don't console him.
[00:29:05]  Don't console him.
[00:29:06]  Don't go near him.
[00:29:08]  Don't console him.
[00:29:09]  He wants the guy, the would-be cheerleader killer?
[00:29:11]  Yeah, the cheerleaders thought if they talked nice to him.
[00:29:14]  Oh, yeah, right.
[00:29:14]  No, that's not going to work.
[00:29:16]  No, that don't work.
[00:29:18]  That don't work with bad people.
[00:29:19]  And then I had a kid who I hope you didn't.
[00:29:21]  Never mind.
[00:29:21]  Keep going.
[00:29:22]  What?
[00:29:22]  You had a kid what?
[00:29:23]  And I had a young man, I should say, because my kids could be up to 21 years old.
[00:29:28]  And he decided to leave the room before the end of the day.
[00:29:33]  And he was in a just a threatening mood that day.
[00:29:36]  You know, his mind switched.
[00:29:37]  And he said, well, I'm leaving.

=== Dean's Plea To Defend (07:48) ===

[00:29:38]  And I said, oh, really?
[00:29:39]  And he said, what are you going to do about it?
[00:29:42]  So, you know, he's threatening me.
[00:29:43]  And I said, well, not much.
[00:29:45]  And he goes, well, what do you mean?
[00:29:46]  You're the teacher.
[00:29:46]  You got to do something.
[00:29:47]  I said, what am I going to do?
[00:29:49]  Pull you back in the room?
[00:29:50]  Are you kidding?
[00:29:51]  You're like close to six foot and I'm 5'5?
[00:29:53]  What are you talking about?
[00:29:54]  So he kind of giggled at that and he said, oh.
[00:29:56]  So then he gets closer to me and he's starting to threaten me, figuring, okay, we've got somebody easy here, maybe.
[00:30:02]  And so I'm looking at my teacher's chair, ready to pick it up.
[00:30:07]  And he goes, oh, what are you going to do if I attack you?
[00:30:09]  And I said, well, I'm going to defend myself.
[00:30:12]  And he said, well, what do you mean?
[00:30:13]  You can't defend yourself.
[00:30:14]  You're a teacher.
[00:30:15]  And I said, oh, no.
[00:30:16]  The minute you start threatening my life, my body, my person, I become, and I gave my name.
[00:30:21]  And I said, I'm a regular person and I can do whatever I want to do.
[00:30:24]  Okay, what happened then?
[00:30:26]  Did he stand down?
[00:30:27]  Something tells me he stood down and you stared him down.
[00:30:30]  Down and the other kids clapped and they had a lot of respect for me.
[00:30:34]  My students respected me.
[00:30:36]  All right.
[00:30:37]  And I never had to yell and scream.
[00:30:39]  I did it all through psychology and they trusted me.
[00:30:44]  They even told me one time when the child study team asked me to do something in front of them that I didn't want to do, give good grades to somebody who didn't deserve it.
[00:30:51]  And my students told me, Miss, Miss, why don't you just...
[00:30:55]  Hey, I know.
[00:30:55]  You already told us you're the teacher of the year, okay?
[00:30:58]  I mean, you can regale us with stories for the next six hours.
[00:31:02]  I appreciate it.
[00:31:03]  What's the bottom line on the ice thing?
[00:31:06]  Well, I was looking at some pictures and the way the mob is all over them.
[00:31:10]  DeSantis just passed a law.
[00:31:12]  All right, do me a favor.
[00:31:13]  Look at the new video.
[00:31:14]  Look at the new video.
[00:31:15]  Have you seen it yet?
[00:31:17]  Look at the new video.
[00:31:18]  It's not even on cable.
[00:31:19]  You've got Twitter.
[00:31:20]  Go ahead and look at it.
[00:31:21]  No one else has seen it.
[00:31:22]  It's not on any of the networks, but it's brand new video.
[00:31:25]  You got to go do that for me, Pamela.
[00:31:26]  That's your homework assignment.
[00:31:28]  Get it?
[00:31:28]  Yeah.
[00:31:29]  I'm the teacher.
[00:31:29]  That's your homework assignment.
[00:31:31]  I love it.
[00:31:31]  Thank you.
[00:31:31]  Dean, hello.
[00:31:33]  Is he there?
[00:31:34]  Good lord, Burbur.
[00:31:35]  Yeah.
[00:31:36]  How are you?
[00:31:36]  Yes.
[00:31:36]  You're going to hear me.
[00:31:37]  You know, I heard you say that these things peter out that you're talking about now.
[00:31:41]  I wondered.
[00:31:42]  I wonder, whoa, whoa, you know, I'm like, what, what, what happens next?
[00:31:46]  And things do peter out sometimes.
[00:31:48]  I don't know if this does or it doesn't.
[00:31:49]  And quite frankly, everything does peter out.
[00:31:51]  So I stand by it, I guess.
[00:31:53]  Why?
[00:31:53]  What's up, Dean?
[00:31:54]  Because of Trump, it doesn't peter out anymore.
[00:31:57]  We're seeing what they're doing.
[00:31:58]  Like you just said, they're resisting arrest in New York.
[00:32:01]  They got Mandani in New York.
[00:32:03]  You go to California and you find out how much residual effects have on these things.
[00:32:07]  They peter out in the news, but the left doesn't forget about it.
[00:32:11]  They build up from where that section starts dying and they start again where that left off.
[00:32:17]  It hasn't been petering out for the last 50 years.
[00:32:19]  And Trump let us, I mean, Pamela Peter Holroom school.
[00:32:23]  It peters out in the news cycle, but they take notice and they pick up where they left off.
[00:32:28]  Is that what you mean?
[00:32:29]  Bingo.
[00:32:30]  Thank you.
[00:32:30]  That's why you're on the show.
[00:32:32]  And I can't say those kind of things as succinct as you did, but that's exactly what I mean.
[00:32:36]  Trump exposed these guys.
[00:32:38]  Out of everything that Trump's doing, he did the best by exposing what the left is doing.
[00:32:44]  Can you imagine if Hillary would have won?
[00:32:46]  We would have no idea about any of this.
[00:32:49]  They'd just be creeping underneath everything.
[00:32:51]  Trump lifted up that rock and all those damn, they're even afraid of themselves now.
[00:32:56]  You know, it's also, I kind of think it's like, you know, when you get injected with something, you know, like a good injection, not the COVID injection, you know, not the bad flu shot, but I don't know, the polio shot or whatever, and you get sick before you get better.
[00:33:12]  I kind of feel like that's happening right now.
[00:33:14]  We're pretty sick.
[00:33:15]  As a country, we're pretty sick as these things are being exposed.
[00:33:18]  You know, and I think we're going to be better ultimately.
[00:33:21]  You're right.
[00:33:21]  Trump has changed everything.
[00:33:23]  And eyes have been open, including and especially mine.
[00:33:28]  Including and especially mine.
[00:33:29]  The people I used to trust, the institutions, all that stuff.
[00:33:33]  The New York Times, forget it.
[00:33:35]  In many ways, I was one of them, Dean.
[00:33:37]  I really, I'm just like, oh, dude, why would Hillary Clinton?
[00:33:39]  Hillary Clinton wouldn't be.
[00:33:41]  No, no, no, no.
[00:33:42]  Hillary Clinton is not a corrupt.
[00:33:43]  No, no.
[00:33:45]  I was so naive, you know?
[00:33:47]  But we all were until what was the moment for you when you realized it was all fake?
[00:33:52]  COVID.
[00:33:53]  COVID.
[00:33:54]  When they're telling me that they're going to close my businesses and they're going to open bars.
[00:34:01]  They're going to keep bars open, but they're going to close all the small businesses.
[00:34:04]  They're going to close the churches.
[00:34:05]  I'm saying, wait a minute.
[00:34:07]  Something is wrong there.
[00:34:08]  They're going and arresting families off of a beach or in the woods where they're hiking.
[00:34:14]  American citizens, they could do that.
[00:34:16]  The left love that, but they don't like the illegals being locked up.
[00:34:20]  Dean, thank you.
[00:34:21]  And it's beautiful to walk in the truth, isn't it?
[00:34:23]  We'll be right back.
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[00:34:47]  Crowds screaming in happiness.
[00:34:53]  Why are they so happy?
[00:34:56]  Why are they so happy?
[00:34:57]  That's the day that O.J. Simpson was found not guilty.
[00:35:01]  I think it was October of 1995.
[00:35:04]  I remember where I was.
[00:35:06]  I look, I would show you the white people reaction, but you can't hear anything.
[00:35:10]  They're all standing there stunned.
[00:35:13]  Can't believe what happened.
[00:35:15]  And black people were celebrating.
[00:35:18]  Granted, you know, plenty of notable exceptions.
[00:35:21]  We're speaking with the broad brush here, but yeah, generally speaking, white people were astonished and shocked and sad.
[00:35:28]  And black people were, you know, ecstatic.
[00:35:33]  And it kind of the same event happens and totally different reactions.
[00:35:38]  And it's kind of like what's going on here with this shooting ICE and all.
[00:35:44]  Now, although I am hearing from a couple of the conservatives out there who are like, I don't know, there's this kind of wish in conservative circles to, I don't want to call it compliant, but they want recognition.
[00:35:57]  They do want to fit in with the New York Times crowd.
[00:36:00]  They do.
[00:36:03]  There is a new video that we have played, and I think it's incredibly important, incredibly relevant.
[00:36:13]  It's the shooting as seen by the ICE officer who pulled the trigger.
[00:36:21]  And it ain't on the television yet.
[00:36:24]  I played it five times already.
[00:36:26]  Granted, you can't see it, but we were making arrangements.
[00:36:30]  But I can't, we've played it.
[00:36:33]  Why don't I see it on CNN?
[00:36:35]  Why don't I see it on MSNBC?
[00:36:38]  And why don't I see it on Fox?
[00:36:40]  Now, I'm sure I'll see it at the top of the hour, which is fast approaching, right?
[00:36:45]  What do we think?
[00:36:47]  You can never tell with Fox.
[00:36:49]  They're a little squishy over there.
[00:36:51]  They're a little bit weird.
[00:36:53]  It's important.
[00:36:54]  One other thing about this lady in the middle of the street on a Wednesday morning in January while her kid is in school.
[00:37:04]  Who has the time and who has the money to freak around like that on a workday morning?
[00:37:11]  I mean, remember what was the theme that the Democrats try to push down our throats?
[00:37:17]  Remember that one?
[00:37:19]  I'm fighting for you.
[00:37:21]  Yeah.
[00:37:22]  Cut five.
[00:37:23]  I'm fighting for affordability.
[00:37:25]  I'm fighting to get your costs down.

=== Fighting For Affordability (01:58) ===

[00:37:27]  We are going to work to lower costs of renting, buying, or staying in your home.
[00:37:32]  We are going to cut red tape and build homes families can actually afford.
[00:37:37]  Am I speaking directly to the crisis that working people were facing in this city, which is ultimately a crisis of affordability?
[00:37:43]  Affordability?
[00:37:44]  Nobody can afford anything.
[00:37:47]  These guys have enough money somehow to go out on a workday like that and screw around.
[00:37:52]  They're probably being paid.
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[00:38:46]  They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
[00:38:52]  Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
[00:39:04]  Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
[00:39:13]  Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
[00:39:15]  They employ our neighbors and keep our families healthy.
[00:39:18]  But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
[00:39:22]  Tell Congress, protect patient care to keep America strong.