The StoneZONE - Roger Stone - The Stone Zone | 12-23-25
Aired: 2025-12-24
Duration: 39:11


=== Jeffrey Epstein's Documentary Mystery (14:38) ===

[00:00:00]  Rural Americans deserve access to the best of what our country has to offer, especially health care.
[00:00:05]  Across every state, every community, America's rural hospitals are the first line of defense protecting our families, neighbors, and loved ones.
[00:00:14]  No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
[00:00:18]  They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
[00:00:23]  Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
[00:00:35]  Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
[00:00:42]  Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
[00:00:45]  They employ our neighbors and keep our families healthy.
[00:00:48]  But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
[00:00:52]  Tell Congress, protect patient care to keep America strong.
[00:00:56]  Don't cut rural health care.
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[00:01:10]  Well, New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, perhaps the greatest mayor in New York City history, has been completely and totally vindicated.
[00:01:21]  For the mere act of zealously representing the interests of his client, President Donald Trump, the far left, rather than actually consider the legal arguments that he was making, silenced him, debanked him, disbarred him, and tried to bury him in egregious, aggressive lawsuits.
[00:01:46]  They've done everything humanly possible to break this man, and yet he still does a stirring podcast every single day.
[00:01:58]  He is a tough Italian American, and they cannot break his spirit or his lifelong habit of telling the truth.
[00:02:07]  But incredibly, a citizen investigation into the 2020 election in Fulton County, Georgia has proven that Rudy Giuliani was right when he said that major voter fraud did in fact occur in Fulton County in that pivotal year.
[00:02:23]  After an open records litigation costing more than $15,000, investigator David Cross obtained nearly all of the county's election records and found that at least 134 tabulator tapes that would cover roughly 315,000 votes were missing the legally required signatures of poll workers.
[00:02:48]  Under Georgia law, unsigned tapes must be uncertified.
[00:02:52]  Cross testified before the Georgia State Election Board that every early morning tabulator tape had actually lacked signatures, accounting for more than 60% of the county's 2020 votes.
[00:03:06]  There were also additional irregularities, including missing tapes, identical protective counters across polling places, polls open days late, closing after 2 p.m., mismatched serial numbers, a number of questions regarding the chain of custody.
[00:03:23]  So in other words, Rudy Giuliani was right about all of it.
[00:03:28]  And then Jack Smith invented a crime.
[00:03:30]  That would be the formation of an electoral college board of electors.
[00:03:38]  Throughout our history, in 1877 and 1960, when there have been election disputes, the parties have always formed Electoral College slates in the event that they've prevailed in litigation over the outcome of the election and they would therefore be seated.
[00:03:56]  It's like preserving your rights.
[00:03:59]  But somehow Jack Smith and Merrick Garland decided that this was actually a crime, that it was a crime to organize politically.
[00:04:09]  If you read the minutes of the electors in Georgia, all of whom were charged, that case was ultimately dismissed.
[00:04:19]  All they did, if you read their minutes, is to say to protect our rights because we are suing, we're forming this alternative slate.
[00:04:26]  It's there in black and white, yet they tried to send President Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, many others to prison over that remarkable act of lawfare.
[00:04:42]  So it is great to see Giuliani on this Christmas completely and totally exonerated based on everything we know in Georgia.
[00:04:54]  If the official county officials don't even dispute the core facts now, the county attorney Ann Brumbau conceded that the tapefront signed and acknowledged that it was a violation of election laws.
[00:05:07]  The vice chairman of the election board, Janice Johnson, said the country's records were woefully incomplete.
[00:05:14]  They don't even deny this theft.
[00:05:17]  The executive director James Mills called the situation one of the most egregious breakdowns he's ever seen.
[00:05:23]  These kind of failures matter because Georgia's statewide races are always razor-thin.
[00:05:28]  If you look at it historically, Joe Biden carried Georgia, we're sold by fewer than 12,000 votes.
[00:05:35]  This, of course, all means that when Donald Trump was on the phone with Secretary of State Raffensperger, with I believe as many as seven other lawyers on the line, he did not tell Raffensburger to find 17,000 votes.
[00:05:53]  He told them he had counted far more than 17,000 illegal votes than the margin of victory, and that Trump would win.
[00:06:04]  Not anything like go out and manufacture these, which is, of course, what they tried to say to the media.
[00:06:13]  Same time, Senator David Perdue, a great patriot, narrowly missed outright victory over challenger John Oslo, triggering actual runoff.
[00:06:22]  It's very clear that that race was rigged in the same manner.
[00:06:27]  Cross has not called for overturning the results, but Raffensberger should never have accepted these uncertified numbers and counting them.
[00:06:35]  He was the Republican Secretary of State.
[00:06:39]  The elections board agreed that they would levy a fine of $670,000 against Fulton County.
[00:06:49]  So everything that we were told, of course, is true.
[00:06:53]  And of course, then you look at the Silver State, Nevada, where voter theft is a way of life.
[00:07:00]  As long as the state of Nevada has, as its state law, a provision that everyone on the voter rolls be mailed a mail-in ballot when they have requested one or not, victory for Republicans remained elusive.
[00:07:14]  The last time I spoke in Las Vegas to a conference, a man walked up and showed me five mail-in ballots.
[00:07:24]  This was before the last election, five mail-in ballots, all addressed to him at the same address.
[00:07:30]  He pointed at one and said that it was him.
[00:07:33]  The other four, he said, were people who had rented his apartment prior to his renting it.
[00:07:41]  I asked him if he knew anything about them.
[00:07:43]  He said two of them have moved out of the state and one of them is deceased, but they're still all getting ballots.
[00:07:49]  Now, if he were a dishonest person, he, of course, could have cast all of those votes, but he did not do so.
[00:07:56]  Until Republicans figure out how to fix that problem in the Silver State, which was once a reliably Republican state producing such giants as Senator and Governor Paul Laxall, who was the chairman of Ronald Reagan's campaign in 1980, and as governor Nevada became a close friend of neighboring governor Ronald Reagan.
[00:08:16]  That is a key state on the path to 270 electoral votes.
[00:08:24]  Meanwhile, the Epstein furor is back up in the air.
[00:08:30]  The New York Post breaks a story which really is not a story, reporting all of which had been previously reported that Trump was on several occasions on Jeffrey Epstein's private plane.
[00:08:44]  They really don't harp on the fact that this is a flight that never went to Epstein Island but flew on a weekend on Fridays to Palm Beach and back to New York, and that Marlon Maples, the president's then wife and his daughter Tiffany, were on the flight with them along with a nanny.
[00:09:04]  But that, of course, is not the focus.
[00:09:06]  This is the same recycled garbage.
[00:09:08]  Look, that Trump had a relationship with Epstein is not a secret.
[00:09:12]  And all of these photos that have been released, it's interesting to me that all of the women and other people seen in photos of Trump are all adults, most of them models.
[00:09:24]  This proves nothing, of course, other than invading the privacy of those individuals.
[00:09:29]  Trump has actually commented on that.
[00:09:32]  And interestingly enough, we were told in a formal statement by Bill Clinton, now running for months, but Clinton denied ever being on Epstein Island, period.
[00:09:43]  End of story.
[00:09:44]  The problem was that is that in my 2015 book, The Clinton's War on Women, I established through both the FAA manifest showing who was on the airplane and also in the sworn testimony of three different litigants,
[00:10:05]  victims of Epstein, including Virginia Roberts Guffray, who I did two three-hour sessions with, and I read all of her sworn testimony.
[00:10:16]  Very clearly, Bill Clinton was on the island.
[00:10:18]  Now, these documents that have been released show Bill on the island.
[00:10:26]  Bill Clinton put out a feisty statement saying that the documents were somehow being manipulated, that he didn't understand why these docs were being shown and not documents of others.
[00:10:38]  It was very spooky.
[00:10:41]  But the point, of course, is that these documents are released by the House Democrats and came from the Epstein estate.
[00:10:50]  Epstein's siblings and his living relatives are all major left-wing donors.
[00:10:55]  There's a surprise.
[00:10:56]  So once again, it's incumbent to point out the facts here.
[00:11:01]  Yes, Trump and Epstein had a relationship, but Trump and Epstein fell out in 2004.
[00:11:06]  This is before he even owned that airplane.
[00:11:10]  And Trump banned him from all of his properties and from his life.
[00:11:14]  And this was after, reportedly, Epstein made an indecent advance against Virginia Roberts Juffray, who was working part-time, under 18, part-time, in the spa.
[00:11:29]  And that litigation raged on for years.
[00:11:32]  I read all of it.
[00:11:36]  It is the same recycling that we have tried to do.
[00:11:40]  It is in smear and innuendo.
[00:11:42]  Trump was never on the island.
[00:11:43]  Trump was never in his New York home.
[00:11:45]  Trump was never on his Arizona ranch.
[00:11:48]  Trump never went to his Paris apartment.
[00:11:51]  Steve Bannon did visit him in both New York and in Paris after being fired from the Trump White House.
[00:11:59]  Those emails are intriguing.
[00:12:01]  They show an intimate relationship, and you can clearly see that Bannon is coaching Epstein on his PR rehabilitation.
[00:12:10]  I believe that the 10 hours of video that Steve Bannon shot with Jeffrey Epstein, which he tells us is for a documentary that is yet to be released, is in fact mostly practice footage for a 60-minutes interview that Epstein had scheduled, which of course fell away when Epstein was arrested.
[00:12:31]  It is very clear.
[00:12:32]  If you look at Michael Wolfe's books, if you look at the emails, that is clearly the role that Steve Bannon was playing.
[00:12:41]  It's interesting that when one of his lawyers says in shock after Trump is elected, he emails Epstein and says, Trump actually won.
[00:12:50]  And Epstein's response is, no problem, Bannon, with me.
[00:12:56]  So there it is.
[00:12:58]  And people say, oh, what's your beef with him?
[00:13:00]  Yeah, he did perjure himself at my trial.
[00:13:02]  He did tell the House Intelligence Committee that he and I had never discussed WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, or these allegedly stolen emails that weren't even taken by, other than out the back door on some portable disc.
[00:13:18]  And then he said no to that question several times.
[00:13:21]  Then he shows up at my trial, sweeps to the jury box, dressed kind of like a fat Johnny Cash, all in black, a lot of dandruff, unshaven, won't look me in the eye, and asked the exact same question.
[00:13:34]  He says, yes, Stone raised WikiLeaks in these emails in every phone conversation we had in 2016.
[00:13:41]  And then to put a point on it, he said, I considered him the campaign's access point to WikiLeaks.
[00:13:48]  That headline bounced around CNN for a week.
[00:13:51]  Seth, the problem was it was not true.
[00:13:54]  I'd actually taken two polygraph tests that proved it was not true.
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[00:14:32]  I had a blast at the Turning Point USA's America Fest in Phoenix.

=== Shared Stage Spotlight (04:50) ===

[00:14:38]  I now can honestly say I've shared the stage with President Donald Trump.
[00:14:43]  I've shared the stage with RFK.
[00:14:46]  I've shared the stage with Charlie Kirk, of course.
[00:14:51]  I've shared the stage with Tulsi Gabbert, Pete Hegseth, Tucker Carlson.
[00:14:58]  It is a great, great experience.
[00:15:00]  I think JD Vance kind of really captured the moment.
[00:15:05]  A very powerful speech, which he stressed that we conservatives and Trump supporters and free thinkers need to stop fighting amongst ourselves and focus on a very dangerous and lethal enemy, the progressive, vicious progressive left, the Marxist clique that has taken control of the once great Democrat Party of patriots like John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., all ardent anti-communists.
[00:15:35]  That Democrat Party no longer exists.
[00:15:39]  The other big hit, of course, and I don't know a lot about rap culture, but Nikki Minaj, who was savaged by the left because she expressed COVID-19 vaccine skepticism, and at the time Charlie Kirk publicly defended her, calling out Democrats for the attacks on her.
[00:16:01]  She made a surprise appearance at Turning Points conference in Phoenix, closing the event with a message that cut against the grain of modern identity politics.
[00:16:13]  Minaj urged young women to be confident in who they are, reject bitterness, and start tearing others down over background or appearance.
[00:16:21]  She had a surprise appearance where she was interviewed with Erica Kirk, who I think has conducted herself with dignity and grace under enormous pressure in the face of the horrific murder of her husband, has picked up his mission.
[00:16:39]  Minaj says, I don't want any child feeling that way.
[00:16:42]  If as black women we feel that we are not being representative, not being admired for our beauty, if we feel that as black women, why would we want to do that to other women?
[00:16:52]  Why would we now need to make other people downplay their beauty?
[00:16:56]  I don't need somebody, she said, with blonde hair and blue eyes to downplay their beauty because I know my beauty.
[00:17:03]  Why have we gotten to a point where certain colors, certain kinds of people have to be afraid of loving themselves and loving the way they look?
[00:17:12]  This is precisely what was preached by Dr. King.
[00:17:16]  It is precisely what it was preached by Marcus Garvey, the early civil rights leader, which is just self-identity.
[00:17:27]  Richard Nixon wrote about it as black capitalism, the fact that African Americans wanted what all Americans wanted, a piece of the economic pie.
[00:17:36]  That's why he started the Small Business Administration, the Office of Minority Business Enterprise.
[00:17:43]  It is why he gave us the affirmative action policies that many, many conservatives dislike, but gave black and minority-owned businesses a legal up in federal contracting.
[00:17:58]  He also desegregated the construction trade unions nationwide.
[00:18:05]  So Minaj really, I think, grabbed the moment there.
[00:18:10]  She's been on her ex-file where she literally has millions of fans.
[00:18:16]  She has been a staunch defender of free speech, a staunch defender of Donald Trump, to the surprise, I think, of many.
[00:18:29]  But she is truly a superstar, and she was, I don't even say she eclipsed JD Vance, but she certainly emerged from this conference with a lot of coverage over her very positive and upbeat message of self-responsibility, self-reliance, patriotism, love of country.
[00:18:52]  It was really amazing to watch.
[00:18:54]  I'm Roger Stone.
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[00:18:59]  So whatever you do, don't go away.
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[00:19:15]  Present Richard Nixon.
[00:19:17]  I used to secretly watch all the family.
[00:19:20]  Carol Connor and Archie Bunker and the Stapleton woman and the two famous actresses played Edith.

=== Rob Reiner's Troubled Son (03:26) ===

[00:19:29]  And of course, Rob Reiner played the hippie liberal son meathead.
[00:19:36]  Trump would rail against Meathead on television.
[00:19:41]  He was mesmerized by the series.
[00:19:43]  Of course, we only know this through the White House tapes.
[00:19:46]  Nixon publicly insisted that he never watched TV.
[00:19:50]  I really did not like what Rob Reiner became in his mania to destroy Donald Trump.
[00:19:58]  It went way beyond political opposition.
[00:20:01]  Nonetheless, I do not in any way celebrate his death.
[00:20:05]  The vicious killing of Rob Reiner, the famous actor, son of Carl Reiner, one of the funniest men alive, particularly when he was teamed with Mel Brooks and the thousand-year-old man recordings.
[00:20:19]  Check those out.
[00:20:21]  And his actress wife, Michelle Reiner, may have been shaped by years of psychiatric intervention, powerful prescription drugs, which unfortunately appear to have warped the mind of the alleged killer, Nick Reiner.
[00:20:34]  The Reiner's son stands accused of killing both of his parents by kniving them to death.
[00:20:41]  His defense attorney Alan Jackson acknowledged at a press conference that the case involves some very complex and serious issues.
[00:20:49]  These issues center on a lifetime of mental illness diagnoses and drug regimens.
[00:20:55]  Reports indicate that Nick Reiner, the accused killer, spent much of his youth cycling through rehab facilities and psychiatric treatment.
[00:21:04]  A recent schizophrenia diagnosis from Nick Reiner put him on a new powerful cocktail of different mind-bending drugs, which, according to the reports, could have caused him to totally lose touch with reality.
[00:21:20]  Many times, big pharma's profit-driven tendency to shove pills down our throats so everyone can backfire.
[00:21:25]  And that may sadly have been the case here with the Reiner family.
[00:21:29]  One of the unwritten stories is whenever you have any of these mass killings, these horrific mass killings, which are becoming all too common in America today, you never see a report on how many of the killers are using psychotropic drugs.
[00:21:49]  It is a much underestimated question.
[00:21:52]  The unquestioned authority of psychiatric experts in this case say, and this is a problem in all society.
[00:22:02]  It facilitates, I think, the widespread use of these mind-altering drugs, making giant profits for big pharma when some of their side effects are still listed as unknown by regulators like the FDA.
[00:22:17]  Antipsychotics, antidepressants, anti-anxiety medication, all carrying warnings for side effects, including aggression, agitation, hallucinations, emotional instability, symptoms disturbingly relevant in these violent cases.
[00:22:32]  Yet the courts routinely keep sealing the medical records and these situations that involved mass killings.
[00:22:40]  So we can't find out if that is driving some to these extraordinarily violent acts.
[00:22:49]  It is a daunting question.
[00:22:53]  I'm looking forward to these holidays.

=== Hunter Biden's Tax Contributions (15:23) ===

[00:22:55]  I'm going to use the time to finish a book, a project that I have been working on for some time.
[00:23:03]  It is a book on the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan.
[00:23:07]  The book is finished.
[00:23:08]  It needs a final edit, and I have to choose cover art.
[00:23:11]  And I'll probably put it up online.
[00:23:14]  But the name of the book is Bushwhacked, The Real Story of the Attempted Assassination of President Ronald Reagan.
[00:23:23]  And I do make a compelling case and document to the extent possible the involvement of Deep State, the Central Intelligence Agency, and yes, Vice President George Bush.
[00:23:37]  I've been working on this for several years.
[00:23:39]  It would be nice to have the quiet to finish it, but it's nice when the phone is not ringing.
[00:23:45]  President Trump is bouncing back in the polls.
[00:23:48]  This is not surprising.
[00:23:50]  It's very important when you look at polling to recognize how volatile and fluid it is in our politics today and that in politics a week can become a lifetime.
[00:24:02]  President Trump seems now to be regaining momentum with a new poll showing his job approval beginning to climb to a three-month high after a period of decline earlier this year.
[00:24:13]  And therefore, those who are trying to now figure count him out, I think, are making a horrific mistake.
[00:24:19]  I spoke to this question when I spoke in Phoenix at the terrific turning point event.
[00:24:25]  And that is to say, those who say, well, the 2026 elections are lost and Trump is doomed to have two years of phony impeachments and investigations and subpoenas and witch hunts.
[00:24:41]  It's just way too early to make that decision because we don't have enough information in politics.
[00:24:47]  As this poll shows, a week is a lifetime.
[00:24:49]  Trump, after a round of very successful trade negotiations, moves up to the highest mark.
[00:24:59]  First time he's hit 50 since late September, but it's a nine-point net advantage approval over disapproval, which is the widest it's been since August.
[00:25:08]  This shows that things are beginning to move in the right direction.
[00:25:12]  It's important to recognize that Trump's December 17th address to the country when he released the latest inflation report caused a spike.
[00:25:23]  Inflation is down under Donald Trump.
[00:25:26]  Unemployment is down under Donald Trump.
[00:25:30]  Food prices are down under Donald Trump.
[00:25:32]  They're not down as low as they need to be.
[00:25:36]  When you ask voters how they measure their own financial strength or weakness, 33 of them speak immediately to food prices, grocery prices.
[00:25:49]  Gasoline, of course, which was the second largest concern, has dropped as a concern.
[00:25:55]  It's logical.
[00:25:56]  The cost of gasoline is dropping.
[00:25:59]  So as it is cheaper, it is less a boiling issue for the voters.
[00:26:05]  Housing is emerging as a major battleground.
[00:26:09]  And Donald Trump's expertise here as a homebuilder and his ability to use Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and a very aggressive posture there.
[00:26:20]  He's been talking for some time about the government owns those entities.
[00:26:25]  He's been talking about taking them private, reaping huge rewards for the taxpayers, at the same time, I think, keeping control of them.
[00:26:35]  And if they can create certain mortgage vehicles that are designed for young people starting out because of a stronger economy and a better interest rate, I think we could have a sea of Trump homes across the country by the time of at least the 2028 election.
[00:26:58]  Trump is in very much the same position that Reagan was in.
[00:27:02]  Reagan's tax cuts, his regulatory cuts, and his muscular position towards the Soviet Union, which was not inexpensive, because we ended up having to spend the Russians in the ground.
[00:27:14]  They lost the arms race because they could no longer keep up with us because Trump, pardon me, Reagan rebuilt our national defenses, which had really woefully been allowed to atrophy under Jimmy Carter.
[00:27:29]  Trump and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth are doing that now.
[00:27:34]  They have done away with the DEI policies.
[00:27:39]  They have arranged for those who were forced out of the service because of their refusal to take a vaccination against their will.
[00:27:48]  They have resolved that.
[00:27:50]  And they're rebuilding a military that's a lethal fighting force that's meant to defend the country.
[00:27:58]  It's interesting that enlistments in our military are up sharply, which reverses a very long-term trend.
[00:28:09]  So I still think that through the tax cuts, through the regulatory cuts, through his trade policies, which is literally bringing in billions of dollars of capital into the government, capital that can be used for tax reduction and debt reduction, which is what conservatives are supposed to be for.
[00:28:32]  When people start getting their refund checks, that will have a very positive effect because it is a first-hand demonstration that voters are, in fact, very, will act, I think, very positively.
[00:28:47]  Trump's focus on combating inflation, providing strong leadership on immigration, national security, and fostering economic stability.
[00:28:56]  There is no question that the very broad deportation policies for illegals, I think, has some political problems in that there are instances when people who are here illegally but have been here for 25 years, have been gainfully employed, have been dutifully paying taxes, have jobs and families, and have never had any problem with the law, are being sent out of the country.
[00:29:26]  I think you're going to get some type of backlash, and I think that is problematic.
[00:29:31]  I agree with the need to get the violent gangbangers and the criminals who have charges against them either in this country or charges against them in the country from which they came out of the country.
[00:29:42]  I think my friend Tom Holman has done that, but the optics of rounding up Abuela is not positive politically.
[00:29:52]  I hope that the president will examine these policies.
[00:29:57]  I recognize the desire to reduce the fact that Joe Biden had a wide open border, and we probably had as many as 30 million people, 30 million, that's what the real experts will tell you, enter the country.
[00:30:10]  We don't know who they are.
[00:30:12]  We don't know where they are.
[00:30:13]  We don't know how many of them are terrorists.
[00:30:16]  And the weaponry that they have brought into the country is extraordinary.
[00:30:21]  And not to mention the social cost of fentanyl and other heavy drugs going across our porous border during the time that Biden was president.
[00:30:35]  The Chinese were literally making millions of dollars poisoning us.
[00:30:39]  That's what I believe the fight in Venezuela is really about for Trump.
[00:30:43]  I mean, he says it's about the oil, and he's right about them taking some of our oil rights from U.S. companies, but what's far more egregious is that Venezuela is really not a country, not the way we think of one.
[00:30:56]  This is a mafia-run, drug-running, narco-Marxist operation.
[00:31:02]  It is dedicated solely to that.
[00:31:07]  They are transporting deadly drugs into the United States.
[00:31:11]  The same deadly drugs are being sent from Honduras as well as some from Cuba into the United States.
[00:31:18]  Donald Trump's moves on Maduro and above all are to end this deadly flow of both fentanyl supplies by the Chinese and cocaine from these countries across our border.
[00:31:32]  And what ultimately happens here remains to be seen.
[00:31:36]  Trump is not a man to challenge and be trifled with.
[00:31:39]  Will Maduro is reported ready to abandon the island and seeks safe passage.
[00:31:47]  It was reported that he asked Trump to be allowed to continue to have control of the military, which, of course, Trump said no.
[00:31:56]  I'm Roger Stone to listen to the Stone Zone, and we'll be back with more in just a bit.
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[00:32:12]  Remember when the New York Post, just days before the 2020 election, broke an incredible story about Hunter Biden's laptop, which, according to the paper, he had left at a repair shop in Delaware.
[00:32:27]  The repair shop owner, a man named John Paul McIsaac, turned it over to the FBI because the contents were so shocking.
[00:32:37]  They showed pornography, they showed drugs, but more importantly, they showed egregious pay-for-play and enormous payments, including apparently some reserved for his father, who was then vice president.
[00:32:52]  That, of course, would be a crime.
[00:32:54]  He's referred to as the big guy.
[00:32:57]  Most of those stories were broken by Miranda Devine of the New York Post, who's a great reporter and a great lady.
[00:33:05]  But Hunter Biden viciously attacked her weeks ago or days ago, I should say, in the New York Post.
[00:33:13]  Now Hunter Biden is back at it again.
[00:33:17]  He did a podcast interview with the former CIA contractor Sean Ryans, very popular.
[00:33:23]  And this guy is truly demented.
[00:33:26]  He once again attempts to dismiss the infamous laptop stories reported by the New York Post in October 2020 as in claiming in some convoluted way that the laptop was fabricated, insisting that while a physical laptop may exist, the data was allegedly stitched together from years of emails by foreign actors and political operatives.
[00:33:48]  All of this is disproven.
[00:33:50]  You can go to marcopolo.org.
[00:33:53]  MarcoPolo.org is a nonprofit organization that has meticulously preserved and footnoted the entire IRV of Hunter Biden's laptop.
[00:34:06]  It is shocking in terms of the number of state and federal crimes revealed.
[00:34:12]  I believe that Garrett Ziegler and the folks at marcopolo.org have evidence of direct crimes of about 158, I believe, state and federal crimes.
[00:34:29]  It is really incredible that he's doing this media tour, trying to claim once again that the laptop was not his, despite multiple forensic analysis, sworn testimony, federal investigations that have now completely and authenticated the laptop's contents.
[00:34:49]  The Democrats, as you recall, were desperate to make sure this story died quickly.
[00:34:55]  51 current or former intelligence officers organized by Mike Morrell, who at that point was working for the Central Intelligency, co-signed a letter, all of which they knew was false, claiming that there was some evidence that Hunter Biden's laptop was a fabrication, indeed Russian disinformation.
[00:35:17]  They said it had all of the hallmarks of it.
[00:35:20]  It had none of the hallmarks of it because it was 100% real.
[00:35:24]  Hunter Biden's lawyer, Abby Lowell, actually sent me a letter demanding I preserve any information or evidence that I have regarding the laptop, including communications with Rudy Giuliani, Steve Bannon, and others.
[00:35:42]  I have no such communications.
[00:35:45]  I learned about the story in the New York Post and a shocking story by Miranda Devine, who broke most of this.
[00:35:55]  There's also some good coverage of it over at Breitbart.news.
[00:36:01]  But Hunter Biden was allowed to walk out on a $15 million tax debt.
[00:36:07]  He and I both had our tangles with the IRS, but in his case, I reported every penny to them.
[00:36:13]  I reported all my assets to them.
[00:36:14]  I simply could not pay.
[00:36:16]  And I owe the IRS a large amount of taxes, and I have paying them down.
[00:36:22]  I probably will for the rest of my life.
[00:36:24]  But in his case, he failed to report.
[00:36:26]  That's tax evasion.
[00:36:28]  He failed to report $15 million of income.
[00:36:31]  The U.S. attorney in Delaware, who was a loyal Democrat, let that very serious charge expire.
[00:36:39]  So this whole, oh, Roger Stone and Hunter Biden are being treated differently, he committed a crime.
[00:36:45]  I committed no crime other than the crime of running out of money because I was economically and financially destroyed in the mueller investigation.
[00:36:56]  I mean, we lost our home, our car, our savings, our insurance, my ability to continue to make an income and support my wife and I.
[00:37:06]  So Hunter Biden now, just these pictures, when you go to get this book from marcopolo.org, the more raunchy pictures will be pixelated out so it is suitable to have around the house children seeing it.
[00:37:23]  Anyway, that's it for Hunter Biden.
[00:37:26]  I can't believe this guy is not in jail.
[00:37:27]  But remember, he got a full and complete pardon, and his pardon was not done by Autopen.
[00:37:34]  It was signed by the man that CIA director called a veritable vegetable, Joe Biden.
[00:37:41]  You've been listening to the Roger Stone Zone show here.
[00:37:45]  This is the Stone Zone.
[00:37:46]  Thanks for joining us, and we look forward to these Christmas holidays together.
[00:37:52]  The writing, the lighting of the tree at Rockefeller Center, followed by dinner at the 21 Club, used to be my favorite thing about being a New Yorker at Christmastime.
[00:38:03]  We'll see you tomorrow.
[00:38:05]  God bless you and Godspeed.
[00:38:09]  Thanks for listening to the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
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