The StoneZONE - Roger Stone - The Stone Zone | 10-28-25
Aired: 2025-10-29
Duration: 40:57


=== Biden's Pardons and Beyond (13:23) ===

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[00:01:45]  I know one thing, when they tried to frame me in the Russian collusion hoax, and President Donald Trump realized that I was merely being pressured to give false testimony against him, something I refused to do, I got a full and unconditional presidential pardon.
[00:02:05]  Strangely enough, that's a little hard to find on the internet.
[00:02:09]  You can find many stories that say the president commuted my sentence, which he had done earlier, to avoid my having to go to a dank Georgia prison, where at 68 years old, I was being put in the general population with at least 80 people, we were told, who had COVID.
[00:02:27]  Fortunately, the president's swift action saved me and answered my prayers to God.
[00:02:36]  But I know that Donald Trump signed my pardon.
[00:02:39]  What I wonder about is the Biden Autopen pardons.
[00:02:43]  The House Oversight Committee has now released a report describing the use of the Auto Pen for signing pardons in the final days of the Biden administration.
[00:02:52]  Committee Chairman James Comer, this guy's a tiger, conducted an investigation into whether senior Biden White House officials possibly exercised the authority of the former president or intentionally concealed Joe Biden's rapidly worsening mental and physical state.
[00:03:09]  In other words, did Biden even know that he was pardoning these people because they were using an auto pen?
[00:03:15]  Turns out that the White House aides had no idea who was operating the Autopen to sign official documents and issue the pardons.
[00:03:22]  The lights were on, but evidently nobody was home, just not inside of Joe Biden's head, but obviously inside of his White House as well.
[00:03:31]  They learned that Joe Biden's personal physician, a Dr. Kenneth O'Connor, did not ever perform a cognitive assessment of Joe Biden and invokes his Fifth Amendment right when questioned by Comer's committee and added that O'Connor's financial ties to the Biden family presented very deep conflicts of interest.
[00:03:53]  In other words, They paid the doctor well to shut up about how much Joe had degenerated.
[00:04:01]  They also stated that political hacks actively interfered with decisions regarding President Biden's medical evaluations, explicitly rejecting calls for cognitive testing to protect his reelection prospects.
[00:04:14]  In other words, they didn't want anyone to know that Joe is almost a vegetable.
[00:04:20]  Additionally, they found that no proper chain of custody for the documents which predicated the president's executive orders or a quarter of people, including resident staff, had access to.
[00:04:32]  So they confirmed it's obvious.
[00:04:34]  Biden had no idea what was going on in his own administration.
[00:04:37]  Decisions were being made in abstentia by somebody or perhaps many somebodies.
[00:04:43]  This should, in my opinion, erase all the final pardons in Biden's final days in office.
[00:04:49]  But what's particularly interesting is not just the big names, the Anthony Fauci's, the General Mark Milley, the Hunter Bidens, not just them, but the entire January 6th committee and all those who ran the two phony impeachments and the January 6 investigation, all pardoned by Biden on his way out the door.
[00:05:18]  The way this is going to get finally adjudicated is very simple.
[00:05:22]  It really lies in the hands of Pam Bondi and the Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, and that is until someone who has been pardoned is charged, that defendant will then argue, you can't charge me.
[00:05:41]  I have a presidential pardon, and the pardon will then be tested in the courts.
[00:05:46]  And the courts, I think you could make the case at trial that Joe Biden didn't authorize these pardons, and therefore they're invalid.
[00:05:56]  I think that Fauci is a perfect case.
[00:06:00]  I mean, I don't understand, first of all, how it is legal for Dr. Fauci to serve in his position, to have his wife serve in an equally powerful federal position, yet have them personally benefit through their stock holdings in big pharma and certain vaccinations, reap millions and millions of dollars at the same time they're attempting to mandate the use of these very products.
[00:06:26]  To me, that should be illegal.
[00:06:28]  It is evidently not illegal.
[00:06:30]  That is something that needs to be made illegal.
[00:06:34]  It is disgraceful, but charging Fauci, which I think you have enough evidence to do, Mark Milley, you remember him.
[00:06:40]  He's the guy who called the head of China and said, don't worry if that madman Trump tells us to launch an attack on you, I'll stop it and let you know.
[00:06:51]  That guy, Hunter Biden, who they let walk out on massive amount of federal taxes.
[00:06:58]  They always say, oh, Roger Stone didn't pay false.
[00:07:02]  I reported every penny, unlike him, who didn't report $10 million.
[00:07:07]  And I have paid everything.
[00:07:09]  I have paid all of my obligations to the IRS.
[00:07:12]  Unfortunately, I will continue to do so for the rest of my life, thanks to my settlement with them.
[00:07:18]  But he walked out on $10 million.
[00:07:20]  They let the government purposely let the statute of limitations run, yet he still failed to report $10 million worth of income.
[00:07:28]  That's income tax evasion.
[00:07:30]  It has nothing to do with the fact that they bankrupted me and I could simply no longer meet my obligations to the IRS.
[00:07:38]  They filed a ridiculous civil lawsuit claiming that I had personally hidden money.
[00:07:44]  They proved none of that because it was all false.
[00:07:47]  My wife is the most meticulous bookkeeper in the world.
[00:07:50]  If I bought a ham sandwich in 1979, she's got a receipt for it.
[00:07:54]  We reported all of our assets.
[00:07:56]  We paid all of our taxes.
[00:07:57]  And when we couldn't, we continue to pay, like every other American.
[00:08:02]  In the meantime, the border control commander in Chicago stated that there have been over 3,000 arrests in the Chicago area, something that they're calling Operation Midway Blitz, which is designed to restore order to a city that is, at this point, besieged by gang violence and illegal immigration because of the derelict Democrat leadership.
[00:08:25]  It was amazing to see J.B. Pritzker, when confronted on television with the murder rate in the city of Chicago, try to argue that, no, no, Chicago is among the lowest.
[00:08:38]  Don't believe what your eyes shall believe what I'm telling you.
[00:08:42]  It was a pathetic performance.
[00:08:44]  I actually believed that because J.B. Pritzker, the rotund governor of Illinois, who would be president, a man so fat, I met him on the corner of 31st, 32nd, and 33rd Street.
[00:08:58]  I mean, when he sits around the house, he sits around the house.
[00:09:03]  He's a big guy.
[00:09:05]  It's interesting.
[00:09:06]  He's one of the wealthiest people in the country.
[00:09:08]  The Pritzker family, of course, made a fortune in the Hyatt hotels.
[00:09:12]  He lives in a very exclusive neighborhood.
[00:09:15]  He didn't want any neighbors.
[00:09:16]  So he bought the multi-million dollar house next to his for quite a bit.
[00:09:22]  I mean, millions of dollars.
[00:09:24]  But then he figured out that if he ripped the toilets out of it, he would not have to pay property taxes or he would get some substantial deductions of property taxes.
[00:09:33]  So he ripped out the toilets.
[00:09:34]  This is the kind of guy we're talking about.
[00:09:36]  A billionaire.
[00:09:37]  He doesn't want to pay the property taxes on a property he owns.
[00:09:42]  Those two, I think, really have endangered the people of Chicago by, when I say those two, meaning J.B. Pritzker and Mayor Brandon Johnson, a man with a 6% approval rating, 6%.
[00:09:55]  A man who incredibly insists that the problems that are beleaguing the cities are the fault of Richard Nixon, a man who hasn't been in public office for over 50 years.
[00:10:08]  A Nixon who desegregated the schools, who gave us affirmative action for maximum African-American hiring, who started the Office of Minority Business Enterprise to give minority-owned firms a leg up.
[00:10:23]  The man who rounded up the votes in 1958 for the passage of the first civil rights legislation since the Civil War.
[00:10:31]  That Richard Nixon.
[00:10:33]  This guy's a clown.
[00:10:35]  But he and Pritzker have ordered the Chicago police that they are not to come to the aid of ICE agents who are surrounded by thugs and endangered as they go about performing their duties in extracting and deporting some of the most violent criminals in the country.
[00:10:56]  It is quite extraordinary.
[00:10:58]  The folks at the Border Control operation have launched a new operation that they are using in honor of Katie Abraham, who was murdered in a hit-and-run accident by a drunk driver, Julio Kakul Bull, who was an illegal immigrant.
[00:11:14]  They're making it clear that the administration stands for law and order, while J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson stand with the criminals and continue to insist that there is no crime problem in Chicago, which is pretty laughable.
[00:11:32]  The Trump administration's bold actions against crime and illegal immigration have resulted in Democrats essentially ripping their masks off and showing that they really stand for anarcho-tyranny in essence, a system where the ordinary person has no protections from the law for their family or their property, while a totalitarian bureaucracy lords over every one of us, punishing us capriciously whenever possible.
[00:12:01]  Former Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot stated that she's creating the LICE, the ICE Accountability Project to form a centralized archive of all the purported criminal actions of ICE and CBP agents.
[00:12:16]  So they'll be profiling law enforcement agencies, and we know why.
[00:12:20]  It's so that they can dox them as they have done in the past, putting their families and their lives in danger.
[00:12:27]  These people are, that is illegal, and J.B. Pritzker and Brandon Johnson could be held liable.
[00:12:35]  There's something called the Supremacy Clause.
[00:12:38]  The federal law supersedes any city or state law regarding the conduct and treatment of federal agents.
[00:12:46]  So this, I think, will be an extraordinary error for the Democrats, this embrace of violent criminals.
[00:12:56]  But remember, their real agenda here is to change the makeup of the electorate so that they have a political majority.
[00:13:04]  So the idea of bringing all these illegals here and essentially letting them do whatever they want is to ultimately get them citizenship either illegally, which many of them have already done, or legally, so they can all be registered to vote as Democrats, keeping these people in power forever.

=== Democrats' Political Agenda (15:04) ===

[00:13:23]  Meanwhile, all eyes on New York City's volatile race for mayors is an exciting race.
[00:13:31]  I had the privilege of being on the Larry Kudlow show on the weekend, and I just watched the debate.
[00:13:38]  My conclusion here was that Andrew Cuomo proved his superior knowledge of government.
[00:13:46]  Zoran Miamdami, who I call the Ayatollah Miam Dami, proved his superior understanding of politics, dodging and weaving, Miam Dodgy, they call him, and trying to hide the fact that he is a Marxist jihadi who will defund the police, do away with cash bail, and who will, his own words,
[00:14:12]  raise taxes on white people to pay for all of his get-it-for-free schemes.
[00:14:19]  It should come as no shock to anyone who's paying attention that Miam Dami's campaign is being run by socialists and communists.
[00:14:27]  The Democratic Socialists of America are really the breeding ground for Miam Dami, running his campaign and crafting his strategy.
[00:14:35]  He is, like Obama, he is a creation.
[00:14:38]  He used to have a heavy accent.
[00:14:39]  It's very clear how training, voice training, speech training has done away with his accent.
[00:14:46]  And they are crafting his strategy.
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[00:15:45]  President Donald Trump wrapping up a quick Asia trip, landing in Japan, where there was recently a political shocker in Japan's more conservative party, which was out of power, formed a coalition with a small libertarian party to get control of the parliament, and they elected a new first-time woman prime minister.
[00:16:10]  The prime minister is a conservative, a libertarian, very pro-Trump, very pro-United States, very anti-illegal immigration, and very hard line when it comes to pressure from communist China.
[00:16:27]  Japan's current ruling party, the party of the left, is widely believed to have been heavily infiltrated by Japan's longtime enemy, the communist Chinese.
[00:16:39]  This incredible political upset was reportedly engineered by former prime minister Taro Aso, a crafty 85-year-old who during Shinto Abe, Shinto Abe, to say it correctly, and previous, had served his own stand as prime ministers, really fostered the strong economic growth of Japan.
[00:17:04]  President Trump met with the new lady prime minister, Takeichi, praised her for her plan to raise defense spending by 2%, which is a sign to the communists that they're awake and they will fight.
[00:17:20]  And the president also praised her ironclad commitment to supporting the U.S., saying that our allyship with Japan was at a strongest level ever.
[00:17:33]  Trump said, I don't want to just let you know anytime you have any question, any doubt, anything you want, any favors you need, anything I could do to help Japan.
[00:17:40]  He was very warm.
[00:17:42]  He says, we will be there.
[00:17:43]  We are an ally at the strongest level.
[00:17:45]  This is a great development for the president, election of a pro-Western country, by the way, with huge reserves of gold and very, very substantial control of rare earth minerals, something the Chinese have been trying to corner the market on.
[00:18:01]  The president has a very important initiative to get back in the rare earth market, mineral market.
[00:18:09]  He's announced a number of deals, allying U.S. companies with foreign sources.
[00:18:15]  It's one of the trademark success endeavors of this presidency.
[00:18:22]  The president and Taigichi came to terms that are mutually beneficial at the same time regarding trade, the minerals we spoke of, as well as a $550 billion investment pledge to the Japanese to bolster U.S. projects.
[00:18:37]  As a result, the United States will only impose a milder 15% on Japanese goods.
[00:18:43]  You see, Trump is a master negotiator, and you help your friends.
[00:18:47]  The president said he believes the beginning of a new golden age of trade and friendship with the two nations.
[00:18:53]  It's another example of President Trump's diplomatic prowess in office.
[00:18:59]  He is, after all, a deal maker, not a diplomat, which is why he gets things done.
[00:19:04]  The rise of Takeichi is a very good sign for the president.
[00:19:08]  This entire Asian trip is a big win for the administration.
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[00:19:52]  Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
[00:19:55]  Well, the federal shutdown continues.
[00:19:59]  And I ask all of my listeners and readers, how is this affecting your everyday life?
[00:20:05]  I mean, they're still delivering the Social Security checks.
[00:20:08]  The police are still on the job.
[00:20:11]  One American patriot came forward and put $130 million, a donation of the government to pay some in our military during the shutdown.
[00:20:22]  That's a true patriot, a scion of the Mellon family, a reclusive billionaire.
[00:20:30]  But it is very clear that unlike past shutdowns, where I think the Republicans suffered politically, people recognize the Republicans are prepared to continue the government's operations at current levels of spending, but no increased spending and a continuing resolution.
[00:20:47]  We don't love these, but we do need to run the government.
[00:20:50]  We do need some spending rescission bills.
[00:20:53]  It's clear Stephen Miller plans them.
[00:20:55]  Some of them have already been moved because we are spending is out of control.
[00:20:59]  And Elon Musk proved in his Doge investigation that there was not billions, not trillions, not millions, not billions, but trillions of dollars in waste, fraud, and abuse that could be sliced out of government.
[00:21:13]  The fact that the government shut down and it's not affecting your everyday life kind of proves it.
[00:21:18]  It's amazing.
[00:21:18]  General Flynn told me recently that there were people who would show up at the Pentagon, hundreds of them, reporting to desks.
[00:21:27]  These are the days when people came to work, collecting a salary, but literally they had no projects or work to do because of these stuff, the programs they were put in place to work on had been canceled.
[00:21:39]  And then, of course, more recently, after post-COVID, most federal employees, many federal employees, let's be fair, just stopped showing up at all because they didn't have to.
[00:21:49]  And Donald Trump has to follow through on the traditional Republican pledge to shrink government.
[00:21:57]  I do have a very high regard for Russ Vogt, who I think is a smart guy.
[00:22:03]  It's harder to end a federal program and defund it than perhaps you might think.
[00:22:07]  There are many Republicans in the legislature who have ties to these special interests.
[00:22:12]  So they like the idea of cutting spending in the larger sense, but don't touch anybody close to me when you have the knife out.
[00:22:21]  The American Federation of Government Employees, that's a union, a left of center union, mostly pro-Democrat, as you might imagine, that represents more than 800,000 federal D.C. and government workers, said that they've had it with the political games of the Democrats and are calling specifically on the Democrats to make a deal with Republicans and support a clean, short-term government funding bill, which is called the Continuing Resolution,
[00:22:49]  that would open the government back up immediately.
[00:22:53]  AFGE President Everett Kelly says both political parties have made it their point and still there is no clear ending side.
[00:23:00]  It's time to pass a clean, continuing resolution to end this shutdown today.
[00:23:05]  Now, again, just to be clear, the Democrats are insisting on $1.5 trillion worth of new spending, at least some portion of which will go to health care for illegal immigrants in this country.
[00:23:18]  Just not a priority when you want, we have our own problems, and we want to make and put America first.
[00:23:26]  Last week, the Senate rejected a Republican bill that would have paid active duty military during the shutdown.
[00:23:33]  So Democrats even refused to budge unless Republicans agreed to return wages to all federal workers and to ban President Trump from firing any federal worker during the shutdown.
[00:23:46]  This kind of gamesmanship is at the expense of the American people, in my opinion.
[00:23:50]  This is why more Americans are blaming the Democrats for the shutdown of the Republicans.
[00:23:54]  Poll after poll after poll shows it.
[00:23:57]  A major difference from the previous shutdowns, frankly, where I think the Republicans usually got the blame.
[00:24:02]  In many cases, they deserved it.
[00:24:05]  The Democrats right now are causing chaos because they hope they can blame it all on Donald Trump.
[00:24:10]  But it's not working out that way because they are so naked in their maneuvers.
[00:24:18]  In essence, Chuck Schumer, who's not a dumb guy, as much as I don't care for him, but he's being held captive by the progressive Marxist wing of his party that is demanding all this new federal spending for illegals.
[00:24:33]  And he cannot stand up to AOC and Jasmine Crockett and that tired old windbag, Bernie Sanders.
[00:24:42]  So he has to kowtow to them.
[00:24:44]  Or if there is a New York primary between the former bartender AOC and Chuck Schumer, veteran Democrat legislator, Chuck Schumer's headed to retirement, and he knows it.
[00:24:58]  There are no more moderate Democrats.
[00:25:00]  It's a very sad thing.
[00:25:02]  But that party has been taken captive by a elitist Marxist clique.
[00:25:10]  As Sam Antar over at whitecollarfraud.com proves yet again today, Miam Dami's campaign is not some grassroots uprising, not some progressive wave.
[00:25:21]  It is a very cleverly funded operation in which they use nonprofits, political parties, other C3s and C4s to move around vast amounts of money to fund a campaign that is top-down, not grassroots.
[00:25:40]  In their earlier campaign filings, they actually showed that he had taken in no small donations from his website.
[00:25:47]  And then we pointed that out, that all his money had come from bundlers.
[00:25:51]  That means rich people, folks.
[00:25:54]  The rich people who go around and collect checks from other rich people so they can know the mayor, those people.
[00:26:01]  When we pointed that out, the Mandami campaign very quickly reposted their filings to produce a list of small donors, many of whom I think are fraudulent.
[00:26:16]  So that uprising is not some grassroots thing.
[00:26:20]  I really think Miam Dami is benefiting from the hope in change and the generalities.
[00:26:26]  But anyone who will look hard at him will see that this is a very dangerous agenda, defunding the police, doing away with cash bail, higher taxes on white people, as I said earlier, and I say it again, he said it, not me.
[00:26:40]  Employers, both big and small, are going to flee New York.
[00:26:44]  Unfortunately, many of them will come to Florida, where I live.
[00:26:48]  But it is, there's only one sad silver lining.
[00:26:52]  I think, first of all, that this race is, the coverage of it has been exciting.
[00:26:59]  I have to say, Curtis Sliwa, I think, has run a very effective campaign on lesser resources than the other candidates.
[00:27:06]  The truth is, Andrew Cuomo, like Joe Biden, he has to campaign from the basement.
[00:27:11]  He cannot risk that viral moment in which somebody says, hey, Cuomo, my grandfather died in a nursing home because of you, because you put the COVID patients in a nursing home.
[00:27:24]  He can't have that moment go viral to remind every New Yorker of that.
[00:27:30]  He would like us forget that he resigned ahead of impeachment because of charges that he inappropriately had interaction with women.
[00:27:41]  I guess you call it sexual harassment.
[00:27:45]  I think he actually should have gone down for the nursing home fiasco in which he put COVID patients in with the most vulnerable citizens.
[00:27:59]  I think his campaign is out of gas.
[00:28:01]  His only shot was in the Democrat primary, and he had the unions, he had all the key players, but he got outplayed by Miam Dami.
[00:28:12]  His unfavorable ratings are the second highest in the race.
[00:28:17]  No, probably they're now the highest in the race, now that Eric Adams is out.
[00:28:22]  Eric Adams' name, by the way, remains on the ballot.
[00:28:25]  It's too late to take it off.

=== Unfavorable Ratings Dominating Primary (05:09) ===

[00:28:28]  Be interesting to see how many vote for the mayor, given the many corruption scandals continuing to swirl around his administration.
[00:28:35]  He dropped out because he was down to 11 points, and he had a 72% unfavorable rating.
[00:28:44]  It is amazing that he was able to skip on the very serious charges against him.
[00:28:50]  If you're under the impression that he got an upgrade on Turkish Airlines and they gave him an extra bloody Mary, then you didn't look at the allegations against him.
[00:29:01]  But he is a non-factor.
[00:29:03]  I saw that he endorsed Andrew Cuomo, but I don't think that moved any votes.
[00:29:08]  So this race continues to be volatile.
[00:29:14]  It is essential, I think, that between Cuomo and Sliwa, they have to better expose who Miam Dami really is and what his agenda really means for New York.
[00:29:25]  He has the lowest unfavorable ratings in the race.
[00:29:28]  Last poll I showed, I saw showed him in the high 30s, which is Cuomo's unfavorable in the high 60s that I recall.
[00:29:38]  And Curtis Sliwa, reasonable, having had a 20-plus year career on New York radio, his unfavorables were the lowest of the three candidates other than Miam Dami, who is a new creation.
[00:29:54]  I think Curtis has run a scrappy campaign, and we don't endorse candidates here.
[00:30:01]  You know, we just talk about politics, but that's my assessment of the race.
[00:30:05]  The Republican registration in New York City is down to 10%.
[00:30:08]  I thought it was 13.
[00:30:09]  I was actually had to look it up.
[00:30:11]  I was wrong about that.
[00:30:13]  It was much stronger when Rudy Giuliani was elected.
[00:30:17]  There have been very substantial demographic change in New York City.
[00:30:22]  About 23% of voters in this upcoming election will be Hispanic.
[00:30:28]  Only about 26% of the voters in this upcoming election will be Catholic, Roman Catholic in a state that was once dominated by the Roman Catholics.
[00:30:40]  The African American population is still in the overall electorate.
[00:30:45]  While it's disproportionate in the Democrat primary, within the overall electorate, it's still about a quarter of the vote, which is very substantial.
[00:30:54]  Republicans starting to slowly make inroads among Republican voters.
[00:30:59]  Elise Stefanik, I think, is off to a very interesting start.
[00:31:03]  It's very clear to me that she is going to run for governor.
[00:31:08]  And some credible polling showed her only five points behind Kathy Hokul, which is not surprising.
[00:31:15]  A friend of mine decided to run in a special election in upstate New York, Anthony Constantino, and he took an in-depth poll to look at both the general election and the primary.
[00:31:28]  In a 14-plus Republican district, it's understandable that Kathy Oko would have a net unfavorable rating, but she actually had a 72% net unfavorable rating among voters in that poll.
[00:31:41]  And it was 41 very unfavorable, 31 somewhat unfavorable.
[00:31:47]  You don't ever see that kind of polarization.
[00:31:50]  Kathy Hochul is, of course, in my view, exceedingly vulnerable in the Democrat primary.
[00:31:55]  I don't know who beats her.
[00:31:57]  The ideal candidate would be a Hispanic, a qualified Hispanic woman who has strong ties to the progressive wing of the party that is now dominant, the AOC wing of the party, the working families wing of the Democrat Party, because that's who they really are.
[00:32:16]  But it's interesting to see the race unfold.
[00:32:22]  No amount of pressure is going to get Curtis Lee out of this race, in my opinion, because remember, he's running with candidates for the city council, with candidates for civil court judgeships.
[00:32:31]  He's the nominee of a major party.
[00:32:34]  Even the worst polling for him, and I've seen good polls, I've seen polling that shows he runs a stronger one-on-one race against Miam Dami than Cuomo does.
[00:32:44]  Miam Dami was up 48.40 over Curtis, and he was up, I think, over Cuomo, 42 to 38.6, as I recall.
[00:32:58]  Credible poll published the other day.
[00:33:01]  I think that feels right to me.
[00:33:03]  Polling, you have to recognize, is a snapshot in time.
[00:33:07]  That any poll you actually take, if you really want to find out what's going on, you have to ask the questions in a proper order, in an unbiased way, in the way the question is worded, such things as order bias.
[00:33:21]  And you have to have a large enough sample to be meaningful.
[00:33:24]  You can rig a poll to say whatever you want if you kind of like use it for PR or fundraising, but that's not the point of sophisticated polling.
[00:33:32]  I've been studying the polling in this New York City mayor's race, and it is very, very interesting.

=== Polling Pitfalls (06:24) ===

[00:33:37]  We'll talk a little bit more about that.
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[00:33:57]  I think a very successful diplomatic trip for the president in which he announced trade deals with numerous countries along the way.
[00:34:05]  This is the most activist president you're ever going to have.
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[00:34:10]  I really don't.
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[00:34:53]  A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him.
[00:35:00]  Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.
[00:35:03]  Roger Stone, where's Rogers?
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[00:35:10]  You know, I really like Elon Musk.
[00:35:12]  You know, there was a time when I was completely canceled because of my support for Donald Trump and my criticism of the Russian collusion hoax.
[00:35:21]  all about which I turned out to be right.
[00:35:24]  I went from having 980,000 followers, almost a million on what was then Twitter, to being banned for life, also banned for life at Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and so on.
[00:35:40]  It was part of this coordinated war.
[00:35:43]  When Elon Musk bought Twitter and released the Twitter files, it proves that our intelligence agencies, meaning the government, worked hand in glove with the executives at Twitter to cancel, censor, and basically turn off anyone who was pro-Trump, anyone who questioned the safety and effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccination, anyone who questioned the outcome of the 2020 election, anyone who questioned whether Joe Biden's,
[00:36:13]  Hunter Biden's laptop contents were real or whether they were Russian disinformation.
[00:36:20]  P.S.
[00:36:21]  They were 100% real, as both the New York Post and Breitbart News proved.
[00:36:28]  So I was very excited to hear Elon say that he's going to launch a competitor to Wikipedia.
[00:36:34]  Wikipedia is a fraud.
[00:36:36]  Wikipedia's version of history is the left-wing version of history.
[00:36:40]  There's so many mistakes and errors and slurs and misstatements on my profile that I don't have enough time left here in the segment to go through them.
[00:36:50]  You can hire somebody to go in and fix them for you, by the way, that they just fix them back.
[00:36:54]  So they use far-left sources like Mother Jones and the Southern Poverty Law Center, neither of which has any credibility.
[00:37:02]  Those are hack partisan organizations designed to destroy and defame conservatives.
[00:37:08]  So I'm really glad to see that Elon is going to step up and challenge Wikipedia.
[00:37:15]  It has really become the most partisan when it comes to telling of facts.
[00:37:20]  MSNBC and CNN receive a green, a positive rating for information on Wikipedia, while Fox News only gets a yellow rating claiming it is marginally reliable.
[00:37:33]  That's what Wikipedia says.
[00:37:35]  Any source that publishes so-called conspiracy theories, meaning narratives or facts that are unapproved by the political establishment or might question the conventional wisdom, well, you get a red rating or essentially blacklisted from the platform.
[00:37:50]  This is a joke.
[00:37:53]  This is why I'm glad to see Elon Musk step up and announce that he is going to market Grokapedia and have it be a far more balanced presentation of information.
[00:38:07]  Now, if that's true, frankly, Grok needs some work.
[00:38:10]  I'm tired of arguing with the computer over the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't kill Lyndon Baines Johnson late at night.
[00:38:17]  I'm tired of it, to be honest with you.
[00:38:19]  Then I wake up and then I realize that I'm arguing with the computer.
[00:38:22]  It makes very little sense.
[00:38:25]  But I find Grok to be very helpful most of the time, a good source of information.
[00:38:30]  Sometimes politically, they get it wrong.
[00:38:33]  But AI can be very dangerous.
[00:38:36]  I think you have to restrict the impersonation.
[00:38:39]  You shouldn't be able to make a video or an audio of Roger Stone saying things about January 6th that he never actually said.
[00:38:46]  I proved using two different software programs that can detect AI that that was done for the January 6th committee.
[00:38:58]  It is dangerous in the wrong hands, but I'm glad to see that Elon Musk is getting into this arena.
[00:39:06]  All right, that's it for today.
[00:39:07]  Thanks for joining us here in the Stone Zone.
[00:39:10]  Back tomorrow with more of the inside skinny on what's going on in Washington.
[00:39:16]  what's going on in this administration, and particularly focus on whether those responsible for the Russian collusion hoax, the seditious conspiracy to remove Donald Trump and the resultant state wafer attacks on him in New York, Georgia, Arizona, and Georgia, will those people be brought to justice?
[00:39:37]  Coming up on the Stone Zone.
[00:39:39]  Talk to you then.
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=== Americans Deserve Best Care (00:56) ===

[00:40:01]  Americans deserve access to the best of what our nation has to offer, especially health care.
[00:40:07]  Across every state and every community, America's rural hospitals are the first line of defense, protecting our families, neighbors, and loved ones.
[00:40:16]  No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
[00:40:18]  They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
[00:40:24]  Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
[00:40:36]  Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
[00:40:45]  Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
[00:40:47]  They employ our neighbors and keep our families healthy.
[00:40:50]  But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
[00:40:54]  Tell Congress, protect patient care to keep America strong.