The StoneZONE - Roger Stone - Dr. Michael Kirk Moore | 08-28-25
Aired: 2025-08-29
Duration: 17:00


=== Evidence and Intent (09:44) ===

[00:00:00]  Rural Americans deserve access to the best of what our nation has to offer, especially health care.
[00:00:06]  Across every state and every community, America's rural hospitals are the first line of defense, protecting our families, neighbors, and loved ones.
[00:00:15]  No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
[00:00:18]  They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
[00:00:23]  Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
[00:00:36]  Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
[00:00:44]  Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
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[00:01:01]  The Stone Zone.
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[00:01:07]  Joining me now is Dr. Kirk Moore.
[00:01:10]  Kirk Moore is a respected 59-year-old physician and former Navy flight surgeon from Utah.
[00:01:16]  He was facing up to 35 years in prison, not for harming his patients, but for honoring his oath to do no harm.
[00:01:25]  You see, with informed parental consent, Dr. Moore administered saline in the place of COVID vaccinations to children and adults who were facing coercive mandates that threatened their jobs, education, military service, and even life-threatening transplants.
[00:01:43]  Dr. Moore acted out of compassion and ethics, not criminal intent.
[00:01:47]  He treated patients for free during the COVID crisis.
[00:01:51]  He made house calls, and he stood by those whose medical autonomy was under attack.
[00:01:56]  Yet he was relentlessly prosecuted, jailed for 22 days, destroyed in the media, and stripped of hospital privileges and board certification, all because he put his medical ethics and his honor first, always prioritizing informed consent and patient safety.
[00:02:15]  This federal case was riddled with jurisdictional flaws, suppressed evidence, and procedural violations.
[00:02:21]  Boy, does that sound familiar.
[00:02:23]  Anyway, Dr. Moore, welcome to the Stone Zone.
[00:02:26]  Well, Roger, thanks for having me.
[00:02:28]  I certainly didn't go through what you went through from the standpoint of, you know, at gunpoint and all that, but yeah, it was pretty hairy.
[00:02:36]  Well, I want to get into this because, and I want to give enormous credit to Attorney General Pam Bondi and the Trump Justice Department for dismissing all charges against you.
[00:02:48]  That happened on July 12th, 2025.
[00:02:52]  The Attorney General publicly recognized the unjust nature of this prosecution.
[00:02:57]  Also, credit to my friend, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Senator Mike Lay of Utah for their advocacy in helping secure this happy outcome.
[00:03:09]  This was more than just a legal win.
[00:03:11]  It was a stand for truth.
[00:03:13]  So let me ask you, you were prosecuted by the Biden regime.
[00:03:17]  You were facing up to 35 years because of your refusal to submit to COVID-19 protocols during the pandemic.
[00:03:24]  Can you explain the particulars of how this unfolded and indignities that you were forced to endure during this prior administration?
[00:03:34]  Well, you know, Roger, you know all about it.
[00:03:36]  The process is the punishment out of all this.
[00:03:39]  And they did everything they could to make an example out of me.
[00:03:44]  All I did was just do what was right and what I felt was right, what my patients, you know, asked for.
[00:03:50]  You know, all they were looking for is to have a choice.
[00:03:53]  And most people, almost everybody that we treated, didn't have that choice.
[00:03:58]  Know, even my own judge during one of our hearings said that, well, the worst they could do is lose their job.
[00:04:07]  Yeah, I mean, the callousness of that kind of a statement is just, you know, it's just the way our system is kind of geared towards right now.
[00:04:15]  It's kind of like, do what the government wants you to do or else you're done.
[00:04:19]  And you don't, you know, you don't even, you don't deserve to be alive.
[00:04:22]  You don't deserve to kind of contribute to society.
[00:04:24]  That's the way the attitude is these days.
[00:04:26]  It's kind of scary.
[00:04:28]  You know, the politicization of our judicial branch is something I really never really imagined.
[00:04:33]  When I was falsely accused of covering up Russian collusion, which is, of course, an actual impossibility because one cannot cover up something that never actually happened.
[00:04:44]  So when they said you lied under oath, what would be my motive to lie?
[00:04:47]  What would I be covering up?
[00:04:48]  President Trump's involvement in exactly what?
[00:04:52]  Hakeem Jeffries, Congressman from New York, now the minority leader in the House, he actually says in a tweet that Donald Trump pardoned Roger Stone and in return, Stone maintained his silence about Trump's wrongdoing.
[00:05:07]  I say it yet again, Congressman, waive your congressional immunity and I'll sue you in a heartbeat because that's an egregious lie, but you won't because you know you're lying.
[00:05:17]  And I actually was, I don't know, naive enough to thought when I was charged that, well, I'll get a fair trial.
[00:05:24]  I'll be able to prove that there is no Russian collusion.
[00:05:27]  There was no collaboration with WikiLeaks.
[00:05:30]  Little did I know the judge would never allow me to enter any evidence on my own behalf.
[00:05:36]  She wouldn't allow me to call the witnesses I wanted to call.
[00:05:38]  It was a Soviet-style show trial start to finish.
[00:05:42]  And I have little doubt that had you proceeded to trial, this is exactly what would have happened to you.
[00:05:48]  Well, that's, Roger, that's exactly what they did to me.
[00:05:52]  You know, I was precluded from bringing to evidence any patients that came to me for the vaccine and for the saline shots or, you know, for the COVID cards.
[00:06:03]  I couldn't bring anybody in and have them testify as to their own reasoning.
[00:06:06]  I couldn't bring anybody that was vaccine injured.
[00:06:09]  And I couldn't bring any experts in to talk about all of the downsides of the vaccine and the shots that people were given.
[00:06:16]  So they were basically railroading me through.
[00:06:19]  They didn't want to talk about the COVID vaccine because they know all about the downsides of it.
[00:06:24]  But yet, and they knew that they were going to lose if that was the case.
[00:06:29]  So they did everything that they could, just like they did for you, in terms of limiting our ability to even defend myself.
[00:06:36]  I mean, ultimately, they accused me of fraud, and fraud requires intent.
[00:06:41]  And therefore, intent should allow me to tell the jury, hey, what was my intention?
[00:06:48]  What was I trying to achieve?
[00:06:49]  And weeks before trial, they filed four more motions that basically were going to preclude me from even talking about my own intent.
[00:06:59]  And I mean, the whole process, again, the process is the punishment.
[00:07:03]  They do this to, you know, they have, I mean, they have unlimited budgets.
[00:07:08]  I'm totally broke.
[00:07:10]  They've nearly bankrupted me, ruined my business, ruined my livelihood.
[00:07:17]  And that's their goal.
[00:07:18]  You know, that's what they're trying to do.
[00:07:19]  They did it to Mike Flynn.
[00:07:20]  They did it to you.
[00:07:21]  They're doing it to anybody that they can that pushes back against their narrative.
[00:07:25]  It's asinine.
[00:07:27]  It's just so the lawfare is unbelievable.
[00:07:30]  That's how it works, by the way.
[00:07:31]  They don't allow you to mount any reasonable legal defense.
[00:07:35]  In my case, for example, my whole case was based on the fact that the Russian intelligence hacked the Democrat National Committee and that I lied about it.
[00:07:45]  Well, there never was any online hack of the Democrat National Committee by the Russians or anyone else.
[00:07:53]  I wanted to bring expert testimony and forensic evidence from Bill Binney, who was the leading CIA counterintelligence IT expert, who could have proved to a jury of all Democrats that there was no hack of the DNC.
[00:08:13]  When at my trial, the FBI was forced to admit that they had never inspected the computer servers of the Democrat National Committee, and therefore they were relying solely on the opinion of a third-party IT firm called CrowdStrikes.
[00:08:32]  The judge refused to give my defense attorneys the CrowdStrikes report.
[00:08:38]  Now, you're supposed to be able to see the evidence against you as a fundamental matter of law, but now, of course, we know why.
[00:08:47]  The head of CrowdStrikes testified before the House Intelligence Committee under oath, as I did, and even he admitted there was no evidence whatsoever in his possession or in the possession of the FBI that showed that the Democrat National Committee had been the target of an online hack.
[00:09:07]  In fact, the forensic evidence was just the opposite.
[00:09:11]  It showed that based on the download times of the material that was purloined, that the material had been downloaded to a portable drive of some kind and most likely taken out the back door.
[00:09:23]  But my lawyers were not allowed to have that witness called.
[00:09:29]  They were allowed to introduce that evidence.
[00:09:32]  So I've been exactly where you were, and I'm grateful to the Attorney General and to the Department of Justice for stepping in before this went horribly wrong.

=== Pediatrician's Concerns (07:16) ===

[00:09:44]  In general, how would you say you feel about the whole COVID-19 pandemic era?
[00:09:50]  Well, look, I think the whole COVID thing is just a fraud, the whole thing from beginning to end.
[00:09:59]  And, you know, I don't believe there ever was a pandemic.
[00:10:03]  I think the actual disease and the COVID narrative was invented in order to launch the COVID vaccine.
[00:10:13]  And, you know, you can just look at everything.
[00:10:16]  There were no excess deaths in 2020.
[00:10:19]  Excess deaths didn't start until the vaccine was deployed in January of 2021.
[00:10:24]  There were 700 deaths that were reported to VARES by the end of January.
[00:10:29]  There were 1,700 deaths reported to VARES by the end of March.
[00:10:34]  And now there's 40,000 deaths that have been reported to VARES since the COVID vaccine was launched.
[00:10:43]  40,000 vaccine.
[00:10:44]  I mean, they took the swine flu vaccine off in 1975, 76 with reported 25.
[00:10:52]  Some people say 25, some people say 50.
[00:10:55]  But regardless, double-digit deaths.
[00:10:59]  And we have 40,000 people that have reportedly died that have been screened and approved and documented on the VERES database.
[00:11:10]  We have a study that was done in 2010, I believe, a Harvard study that said that those numbers only show anywhere from 1 to 10%.
[00:11:18]  So 40,000 deaths, that means that it's either 400,000 to 4 million deaths have been caused by the vaccine.
[00:11:28]  And it's just what's going on right now is absolutely, it's truly, it's truly scary.
[00:11:37]  And what they're doing to physicians and what they're doing to the population right now is a mass genocide as a democide, in my opinion.
[00:11:48]  I completely agree with you.
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[00:12:10]  Two things that interest me.
[00:12:12]  It's hard for me to understand how Dr. Anthony Fauci and his wife, who's also a high-level health official in our government, were allowed to directly profit from the very vaccinations that they were trying to mandate.
[00:12:27]  I mean, that should be illegal.
[00:12:30]  The Buy Doll Act allows them to do that.
[00:12:32]  You know, something else that I found out about this, Roger, is pediatricians directly profit from the number of vaccines that they give into their clinic, and they get bonuses based upon the percentage of their clinic that is vaccinated.
[00:12:45]  Oncologists make money from the actual chemotherapy that they prescribe.
[00:12:55]  They are directly reimbursed by the pharmaceutical companies based upon the protocol that they put their patients on.
[00:13:04]  We're not, as physicians, we're not even allowed to own a surgical center because they're worried about us self-referring to people.
[00:13:12]  How do pediatricians get paid?
[00:13:13]  I mean, it's not just pediatricians, anybody who takes care of kids.
[00:13:16]  So family practice docs, internists, general practice physicians, pediatricians, anybody who does vaccines, OBGYNs, they get paid a bonus based upon the number of people that they vaccinate.
[00:13:32]  How is that allowed?
[00:13:34]  Final question for you about the two minutes we have left.
[00:13:37]  There's a surprising spike in cancers among people in their 20s and 30s.
[00:13:43]  We had an excellent guest, Michael Caputo, the former assistant secretary of HHS, the other day commenting on that.
[00:13:49]  Your thoughts on that?
[00:13:51]  Oh, the number of cancer patients.
[00:13:53]  I mean, I talked to a guy the other day who said he saw a seven-year-old boy with metastatic pancreatic cancer.
[00:14:02]  I have a client, a friend of mine who's actually a plastic surgeon here locally who sees breast cancer patients.
[00:14:11]  And she sees on a regular basis women in their 20s with breast cancer with advanced breast cancer that she's taking and doing reconstructions on.
[00:14:20]  She used to see one or two of those a year.
[00:14:22]  Now she's seeing two or three a week.
[00:14:26]  The numbers are astronomically high.
[00:14:29]  I just watched a podcast with Dr. Chris Shoemaker who said that if kids aged 10 to 14, this was in, this was National Health Service in England, England and Scotland and Wales, that the increase in death in kids aged 10 to 14 was 82 times higher with kids that had had three COVID shots.
[00:14:54]  So 10-year-old to 10 to 14-year-old kids that get three COVID shots are dying at a rate that's 82 times higher than kids that don't get vaccinated at all.
[00:15:04]  So what the numbers are there, and we have to figure out how to stop this.
[00:15:09]  And that's my goal now.
[00:15:11]  I'm a free man.
[00:15:12]  I can speak freely.
[00:15:13]  But my goal is to get these COVID shots off the market and figure out how to try to stop killing humanity.
[00:15:22]  All right.
[00:15:22]  Well, it has been our great honor to have you today in the Stone Zone.
[00:15:25]  I want to thank you, and we are celebrating your freedom, my friend.
[00:15:28]  God bless you, Dr. Kirk Moore.
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[00:16:04]  Rural Americans deserve access to the best of what our country has to offer, especially health care.
[00:16:10]  Across every state, every community, America's rural hospitals are the first line of defense protecting our families, neighbors, and loved ones.
[00:16:19]  No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
[00:16:22]  They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
[00:16:27]  Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
[00:16:39]  Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
[00:16:46]  Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
[00:16:49]  They employ our neighbors and keep our families healthy.
[00:16:53]  But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
[00:16:56]  Tell Congress, protect patient care to keep America strong.