The Stone Zone dissects rural hospitals’ 24/7 lifeline role while defending Susie Wiles as Trump’s loyal, outsider-backed COS, slamming DeSantis for her alleged sidelining. It ties L.A. riots to 2020 BLM violence, blaming leftist groups funded by Singham and federal grants, and compares Trump’s troop deployment to Eisenhower’s desegregation move. A House vote blocks D.C. non-citizen voting as a citizen-rights stand, while Lee Smith’s Disappearing the President exposes anti-Trump activists—Elias, Brooks, McCord—orchestrating protests and legal warfare, from Russia hoaxes to election sabotage. The episode frames Trump’s battles as a fight for borders and electoral integrity against deep-state obstructionists like Powell and James. [Automatically generated summary]
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President Donald Trump today hailed his chief of staff.
She is the first woman to serve as the White House Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles.
Let's listen to the president.
Susie, the most powerful woman in the world.
I agree with that.
I agree.
Now, the job of White House Chief of Staff is an extraordinarily difficult one, and Susie Wiles has come in for her share of praise and criticism.
Much of the criticism, I think, unfounded.
It's kind of they hate us because they ain't us.
I mean, I've known President Trump's campaign manager, Susie Wiles, for over 30 years.
And I must tell you, these claims on the internet, these ornate charts showing that she's a globalist affiliated with the World Economic Forum or that she carries water for big pharma or any special interest within Trump's orbit is categorically false.
She did at one time work for Mercury, a well-known lobbying firm.
She was never a stakeholder or a partner or an equity holder, but she did not represent Pfizer, has been widely reported.
In fact, she hasn't represented as a lobbyist any pharmaceutical company.
She also, prior to that, owned her own small public affairs firm, and she didn't represent any foreign countries or pharmaceutical firms or defense contractors there.
The reason she is so good at her job is that she has no agenda other than the agenda of her boss, Donald J. Trump.
But when you are the gatekeeper, you have to say no to a lot of people.
H.R. Bob Haldeman, who really set up the modern White House staff system used by every president since then, was called the abominable no man because, of course, the blame can never be put on the president when he doesn't want to see you.
Susie Wiles has done an extraordinary job of representing Donald Trump and having a very smooth running, virtually leak-free White House.
That has never happened before either.
But if you look at Susie Wiles' pedigree, you learn a great deal more.
First of all, she is the daughter of the legendary sportscaster Pat Semerall.
And through her entire political career, rather than work for the establishment, she has always worked for the outsider.
She and I worked together in Ronald Reagan's campaign in 1980.
She could have gone to work for George H.W. Bush.
She declined.
She was at the helm of Rick Scott's campaign for governor of Florida.
Rick Scott was an absolute outsider opposed by the Florida Republican establishment.
Like Trump, a businessman.
Once again, she successfully helmed the campaign of the outsider.
In 2016, Susie Wiles could have gone to work for Governor Jeb Bush or Senator Marco Rubio, both of whom she's friendly with, but she ended up working for President Donald Trump.
And I can tell you that Trump's narrow victory in Florida is due to the skillful management of resources by Susie Wiles.
Now, Susie Wiles is also the most recent White House chief of staff who really escues the spotlight.
I think I've only seen her do one interview in the last year.
She is press shy.
She does not talk on the record to reporters.
And that makes her a bit mysterious, I suspect.
She's also very hard to read.
I mean, when Susie Wiles looks at you, you don't know whether she's about to kneecap you or bake you a casserole.
She is deadly efficient, fiercely loyal to the president.
She has a superb judgment.
And for those who say that she's somehow acted on behalf of Big Pharma, you'd be interested to know that it was really Susie Wiles, more than any other individual person, who helped pull together the alliance of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the Maha people and Donald Trump.
In fact, Susie Wiles was a proponent of Callie Means and her book long before I ever heard of Callie Means or the fact that he was friends with Donald Trump.
The other notable thing, of course, is in 2018, Susie Wiles managed the campaign of Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
She did that at Governor, at President Trump's request, only, in my opinion, to be treated most shabbily by Governor DeSantis and his wife after his razor-thin win.
DeSantis won by 25,000 votes out of 8.9 cast.
Wiles was briefly banished from the DeSantis Circle and from the State Republican Party and the Trump 2020 re-election for reasons that neither Wiles nor DeSantis has ever publicly commented on.
I told Politico at that time, I think Susie Wiles' unique understanding of Ron DeSantis and his wife and their limitations gave Donald Trump a key edge in defeating this ungrateful, treacherous, backstabbing ingrate, Ron DeSantis.
I'm sure Ron DeSantis was shocked when President Donald Trump turned to Susie Wiles in 2023 to bring her back not only as his chief of staff, but as the architect, along with Chris Lasavita and my good friend Tony Fabrizio, with the most stunning political comeback in American history.
So if anybody asks you who is Susie Wiles, I'll tell you who she is.
She's a winner.
She excels in management skills.
Her budgeting expertise and understanding how to budget a presidential campaign so you have money when you need it is among her forte.
But above all, it is her loyalty.
I can tell you that she is loyal to the president and she carries out his wishes.
And perhaps sometimes she gets to blame for decisions she did not make, but she is by far, I think, perhaps the greatest White House Chief of Staff that we've had.
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And that includes not only Bob Haldeman, but Sherman Adams, a number of legendary chiefs of staff.
Now you know who Susie Wiles is.
President Donald Trump gave a speech honoring soldiers on Tuesday, discussing his decision to deploy troops to Los Angeles to stop the anti-ICE riots.
Generations of Army heroes did not shed their blood on distant shores only to watch our country be destroyed by invasion and third world lawlessness, Trump told in an incredible speech at the Army base in Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
What you're witnessing in California, the president said, is a full-blown assault on peace, on public order, and on national sovereignty carried out by rioters bearing forward flags.
Trump added his administration would liberate Los Angeles.
Trump's visit to Fort Bragg, home to some 50,000 active duty soldiers, came on the heels of his move to deploy 700 Marines and 4,000 National Guard troops to Los Angeles in response to riots over the deportation of violent illegal aliens.
The governor, Gavin Newsom, immediately challenged the president's authority to mobilize the National Guard, saying that he, as governor, had not requested the Guard.
Obviously, oblivious to the long history of this, some folks listening to this will remember when Governor Orval Faubus of Arkansas was ignored and Eisenhower sent the troops to Arkansas to desegregate that state, or when John Kennedy sent National Guard troops to Alabama over the wishes of Governor George Wallace.
That's where Gavin Newsom is going to end up in the dustbin of history with George Wallace.
The California Democrats have tried to insist that the protests are peaceful, but our eyes show us otherwise.
Burning cars, demonstrators flinging rocks, chunks of cement, bricks, bottles, little baggies of feces and urine at ICE agents and local and state police officers.
The president said that the military deployment was needed to protect federal property and personnel, and indeed, the original demonstration surrounded a federal courthouse, which was, among other buildings, set on fire.
I mean, California's insane Democrat-led state government tried to sue, and they were immediately pushed back by the appeals court, who insisted that the president has the authority to send in the Marines.
There was a hearing on this today.
It is unbelievable that the president continues to call out Gavin Newsom.
Newsom is trying to use this horrible, horrible situation in Los Angeles to reboot his political prospects.
I mean, based on his record, the Zorin crime, the out-of-control taxes, the widespread drug addiction and homelessness in California, he doesn't have much of a record to run for president on.
He also had the minor problem of Kamala Harris, the former vice president, now mulling a gubernatorial bid of her own.
She would certainly be in his way, although Gavin Newsom is a Getty, so he comes from incredible personal wealth.
He could finance his entire campaign.
After he's giving his speech in Port Bragg, President Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Eggseth took part in a long-scheduled commemoration of the U.S. Army's 250th anniversary, watching soldiers demonstrate a special forces assault and use a long-range Mitchell missile launcher.
It was the first in a series of celebrations of the Army anniversaries involving Trump ahead of what is going to be what they're now calling the Big Beautiful Parade.
This is the first major parade in Washington on a Saturday.
The Army was established 250 years ago on July 14th, 1775, and more than a year before the Declaration of Independence.
I am really tempted to hop a plane and go to the Big Beautiful parade.
Speaking to reporters earlier on Tuesday in the Oval Office, Trump warned again against demonstrations at the parade.
Some radical groups have announced that they will attempt to disrupt the parade, but Trump says they're going to be met with a very big force.
Donald Trump is not a man to trifle with.
While funded activists in a coordinated social media campaign helped spark that pro-illegal migrant protest on Friday that descended into days of violence, injury, property damage, and rioting in Los Angeles, left-wing groups posted calls to action with a location to gather on Friday in unison after the arrest of a local SEIU union leader on Friday.
The subsequent uprising echoes scenes of the Black Lives Matter riots.
Remember those of 2020, which brought activists such as professional legal observers into the streets during a wave of protests that led to fires, looting, vandalism, and over 54 deaths.
$2 billion worth of property damage in the 2020 riots.
President Donald Trump decided then to let the governors individually decide when to and if to bring out the National Guard.
Governor Tim Walsh, notably, is one of those who delayed, which is why you had so many injuries, so many deaths, and so much damage in Minneapolis-St. Paul.
It is obvious to anyone who looks at this that what we're looking at are these are not indigenous grassroots uprisings of people who are unhappy with Donald Trump's record.
This is nothing less than an attempt to destabilize his administration through violence.
The co-sponsors of the No King rallies, which I predict you will descend into violence, are the Party for Socialism and Liberation, backed by a private billionaire by the name of Neville Roy Singham, who's donated over $20 million to such radical causes.
Also, the Democratic Socialists of America, the largest socialist group in the country, they actually get $280,000 from our own federal government.
Can you believe that?
We are financing people who are attacking the country.
There is also Indivisible.
They reported nearly $2.5 million in funds in 2024.
Their fundraising remains somewhat opaque, but I think it should be examined.
And then the 50501 movement, which is another leftist grassroots radical organization.
I think Pat Kash Patel, the FBI director, needs to be looking at every one of these because those pallets of bricks are coming from someone.
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Those legal observers and the lawyers standing by to bail out those who are arrested.
They are coming from someone.
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The U.S. House of Representatives voted on Tuesday to scrap a Washington, D.C. law permitting non-citizens to vote in local elections and overturning another local law curtailing law enforcement liability protections.
In a 266 to 148 vote with one president, the House moved to NICS the 2022 Local Resident Voting Rights Amendment Act that would ensure that only U.S. citizens can vote in D.C. elections.
D.C., of course, is not a state.
It is a federal protectorate, so why non-citizens should be allowed to vote seems like a pretty common sense question to me.
Free and fair elections are a prerequisite for a healthy republic, said Congressman August Pfluger from Texas, who probably looks just like he sounds, and introduced this bill.
The radical DC Council's decision to allow non-citizens, including illegal aliens and foreign asset agents, to vote in local elections dilutes the voting power of the citizens' vote.
That power must be defended.
Republicans acted in the House to do so.
We also have illegals voting in local elections in New York until that was challenged.
Now, under the D.C. Home Rule Act of 1973, the nation's capital has certain authorities, such as the ability to elect its own mayor, its own city council.
Although Congress can cancel any law and Congress funds the local government.
Congress has gone over 30 years without meddling in D.C. affairs, but ended that streak in 2023 when it first nixed a law that rolled back penalties for certain felonies, such as armed robbery.
Former Joe Biden backed the overturning of that law, which is incredible.
It's interesting to note that since Donald Trump became president, and you've had two different U.S. attorneys in the U.S. Attorney's Office, Ed Martin and Judge Gene Piro, there has been a 93% drop in crime in the District of Columbia.
This is Donald Trump.
Coming up next, author of the New York Times bestseller, The Plot Against the President, Lee Smith, is going to outline for us how these unfolding demonstrations in Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, and elsewhere were anticipated and planned more than a year ago.
Don't go away.
We'll be right back with the incredible Lee Smith.
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We're back in the Stone Zone.
Joining me now is Lee Smith.
Lee Smith is the author of the New York Times bestseller, The Plot Against the President, which also became an incredible documentary.
He's written a number of other books, but his most disturbing book is his latest book, Disappearing the President.
I guess because what we see unfolding in Los Angeles is foretold in this book.
Lee Smith essentially says, even before a would-be killer tried to murder President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, a clique of political assassins set about eliminating him from public life entirely.
In his new book, Disappearing the President, Lee Smith exposes how a shadow network of powerful partisan activists has waged a year-long scorched earth war to eradicate President Trump and any vestige of his influence, resorting to an unprecedented campaign of domestic spying, election rigging, brute force censorship, and political violence.
These Trump Zalots appear to be at it again in Los Angeles.
This appears to be splitting to New York, Chicago, Dallas, and Atlanta.
Lee Smith, thank you so much for joining us in the Stone Zone.
Yeah, thank you so much, Roger.
Always nice to speak with you.
So lay this out for us because your book really does seem precinct.
I thought at the time, this is mostly groundbreaking.
I knew parts of this, not all of it, but you clear to have clearly foresaw all of this.
Well, one of the things that Tiffs had offer are the people who are involved, the people who've been talking about this since at least January 2024.
What was interesting was that even back then, they'd anticipated or gamed out the possibility of a Trump victory in November 2024.
And so they reasoned that since the deportation operation was going to be so big on Trump's agenda, that this was also a place where they could attack Trump.
And the way that they would attack Donald Trump is what we're seeing today.
The first part is to get people out on the street.
And there's many other people who have covered this, who have said who are the people who are involved, who are paying to put people on the streets.
And that would prompt the president to call out National Guard units as well as regular military units.
And that's what we're seeing in Los Angeles.
Then the design is to have people inside the Pentagon object to Trump's moves, and that will split the Pentagon and presumably split the armed forces and destabilize the American government.
The people in there, the people who are involved who are behind this, are some familiar names, including a man named Mark Elias, who was formerly a lawyer at Perkins Coy.
And he was the person who essentially funded the steal dossier.
Another one of these people is a woman named Rosa Brooks, who was an Obama Pentagon official.
And she was behind the Transition Integrity Project, which basically gamed out the election irregularities and what that would lead to, including not just the election, but the aftermath where Trump's supporters would be rolled up.
And then another person is someone, Roger, I suspect that your audience will know her name too.
That name is Mary McCord, and she was a Justice Department official, and she was lead on this unlawful investigation of Donald Trump, the Russia collusion probe.
After that, McCord has worked in a variety of places, including, I believe that she worked for Adam Schiff for a brief period, and then she was on the January 6th committee attacking, impoverishing, and imprisoning Trump supporters, or helping to impoverish and imprison Trump supporters.
So all these names are pretty well known to people, and these are the same people who have been writing about this, the same people who have been wargaming this, and what I mean about wargaming, they've been wargaming these protests, how they would spread, how they would grow bigger,
how the president would be compelled to invoke all sorts of different statutes to send out the, to send out not just that, to bypass governors who would not cooperate like Gavin Newsom, and also to send out regular military units.
So I'm concerned that what we're seeing unfold right here is something that these people, anti-Trump plotters, have been, again, planning since at least January 2024, probably much earlier.
Yeah, I'm very familiar with almost everyone on your list.
Mark Elias appeared at my trial on behalf of the Democrat National Committee and made a motion granted by the judge that the so-called crowd strikes memo, which allegedly proved that the Russian intelligence had hacked the DNC, not be released to my defense attorneys.
He won that motion.
How, not surprisingly.
If you're just tuning in, folks, we're talking to Lee Smith.
President Donald Trump said Lee Smith is a great American patriot who has understood that the threat from the beginning, the radical left is the true threat to our democracy.
That's what he said about Lee Smith.
I urge you to get his new book, Disappearing the President.
He also writes regularly for the Tablet magazine.
He has a new piece up now that ties what we are seeing unfolding before our very eyes to this group of radicals.
I think Lee and I both agree that the Russian collusion hoax is the greatest single dirty trick in American politics.
It is an abuse of power in which the full authority of the United States government and the incredible capability of our intelligence agencies was utilized using two pieces of evidence that they knew from the beginning were fraudulent.
The so-called steel dossier, which alleges that Donald Trump frolicked with Russian prostitutes when visiting Moscow as a private citizen, was a total fraud, paid for by Hillary Clinton, whose campaign actually paid a fine for trying to disguise the payments for that document as legal fees rather than what they really were.
And of course, the false claim that the Russians hacked the DNC.
This is a figment of John Brennan's imagination that they built an entire federal investigation around.
Let me just ask you, you asked me this, Lamar asked you.
How do you think President Trump is doing overall fighting these pernicious influences, both inside and sadly, outside and sadly inside his own government?
Well, I think he's doing a terrific job.
And I think that Secretary Hegset over at the Pentagon is doing a great job, too.
And, you know, I mean, there's been some issues over there, not due to the Secretary himself, but there's, you know, there's been some people who appear to be leaking against them or trying to hurt him.
So again, I'm just concerned looking at this particular operation since the Pentagon is part of the target.
And this is how these people, they gamed it out.
Their whole point was, and this is a very important thing, Roger, because I suspect that most of your listeners will be thinking that DOD, the uniformed military, is solidly red and solidly behind Donald Trump.
And there's a lot of them, thank goodness, who are.
But there's also a lot of people in there who owe their rank to the Democrats.
And these people have been curated to become good blue Clinton, then Obama Democrats.
That's been going on for about nearly, well, for about 25 years.
There's a number of different Washington institutions that take young officers, and the job is to turn them into Democrats.
So, yeah, there are people over in that building who can cause a lot of trouble for the Trump administration and for Secretary Hegseth.
So, you know, but I think they've been very much on the ball.
And they have the support of, you know, they have the support of God-fearing, patriotic Americans who think it's a terrible thing that even if they don't love Los Angeles or New York or Chicago, think it's a terrible thing that our beautiful American cities are being turned into dangerous, squalid third world cesspools, and that this violence is a terrible thing.
So they know they have the support of Americans.
Yeah, you're absolutely right about the fact that it is entirely outdated thinking to believe that there are people inside the upper, middle, and to a great extent even the lower levels of our military who are not leftists, not globalists.
I mean, Barack Obama over his eight years systematically retired.
He promoted those who were globalists.
He retired those who were just straight ad soldiers without any political beliefs or anyone who, God forbid, leaned right or maybe revered the Constitution.
So, and this is not just true, sadly, of our military, but Donald Trump is still dealing with a captive government.
I mean, he may name the U.S. Attorney General, for example.
He may even name the U.S. attorneys in a given jurisdiction, but everyone working below that interim U.S. attorney is a leftist Democrat activist or a careerist who is a Democrat posing as a civil servant.
Turning around the government, it's like turning around an ocean liner.
So let's take Kash Patel, who's both a friend of yours and a friend of mine, a very good man, I think uniquely qualified for the job of FBI director, largely because he not only served as a government prosecutor, he was the chief of staff of a major department, the Department of Defense, demonstrating he has the administrative experience.
And he was, of course, the man who led the Russian collusion investigation for Congressman Devin Nunes, who was my first choice for Vice President Donald Trump.
Not that I don't like JD Vance, but I was for that.
Well, that's right.
I remember you saying that now.
That was great.
I think speaking to former Congressman Nunes once he started seeing that groundswell of support, he was surprised and honored.
And I think he didn't want, he didn't want nothing to do with it.
But I remember that now.
I'm so glad you mentioned that.
Well, look, I think he is uniquely qualified, and I'll tell you why.
There are very few people who go to Washington for as long as he was there and rise to a powerful position, as he did as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, who don't lose their souls.
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Devin Nunes is the same guy he was when he left for his first term for Congress.
He's a patriot.
He's a nationalist in the sense that he loves his country.
He reveres the Constitution.
You can't buy him if you're a lobbyist, so don't even try.
He's a person of enormous integrity and common sense.
Now, that's how John McCain was when he left for Washington as a member of the House.
And look at the way he ended up.
No, I think he would have been a great vice president.
Who knows?
He may yet be a great vice president someday.
He's a relatively young man.
But you make a larger point here, and that is there has been this kind of shadow operation that includes Norm Eisen and Andrew Weissman, also known as the single most corrupt prosecutor in U.S. history, along with Mary McCord and these others, who are operating, I think, in violation of the Constitution and to abuse their power in the Biden administration,
try to lock up Donald Trump, put him in jail, try to bankrupt him, try to keep him off the ballot in all 50 states.
They call it lawfare, and they're right back to it.
Norm Eisen, who actually one of the most odious characters I've ever seen, bragging the other night on how many lawsuits that he's filed.
So what they do is they go forum shopping.
So they look for a jurisdiction that has a particularly left-wing activist judge, and then they go there with litigation, which has already been decided in other jurisdictions.
So for example, President Trump has the authority to return a violent illegal immigrant to their home.
He has that constitutional authority.
But in D.C., they try to tell him that he didn't.
He has the authority to negotiate tariff deals with other nations.
But the International Court of Trade in Manhattan, New York, that's a good one, Lee.
I never even heard of them before.
They hopped up and said, no, he didn't.
Now, ultimately, the courts have, when we got to the Supreme Court, in every case so far, the courts have ruled for the president.
But all of this is designed to delay the president's success.
And when you add it to the refusal by the head of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, who is acting politically to refuse to cut interest rates, even though the inflation rate today is almost exactly where it was when they cut them for Joe Biden,
you see that what this is really about, which is to say, to stop Donald Trump's agenda, to derail, defund or dismiss the fundamental changes the American people voted for in the last election.
It's terrible because, look, I mean, of course, there are political rivalries.
There are political enemies.
And I guess that's not surprising that people would target their enemies.
But the fact is, look at how many American people are hurt by this.
I mean, you're talking about refusing to lower the interest rates.
I mean, there's young families who'd like to get a house or someone needs a new car or someone wants to get a used car.
And, you know, it just helped people out.
What we're talking about is something even worse because of the violence involved in these protests.
And look at these animals sending dangerous, violent people into the streets to hurt the Donald Trump agenda.
How many Americans are going to get hurt by this?
I mean, actually, actually pay a physical price.
Businesses are being destroyed.
People are being threatened.
It's just a terrible thing to doing.
And it's really just more evidence that these people are effectively, if not in reality, communists, right?
Their total disconcern for other Americans.
It's just despicable.
All right.
If you just tune in, folks, we're talking to Lee Smith, the New York Times best-selling author, and we'll be right back with more of his political observations.
He kind of connecting the dots for us here in terms of who is funding this insurrection that's taking place in America.
We'll be right back.
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And you're back in the Stone Zone.
Talking to Lee Smith, the author of the New York Times bestseller, The Plot Against the President, his latest book, even more disturbing, disappearing the president, really a synoptis of the last several years of lawfare in which our constitutional system was bent, particularly in New York State.
Remains to be seen whether Letitia James, the Attorney General of New York, among those trying to derail Trump's reelection by prosecuting him under a law in which no one else has ever in the history of the state been prosecuted.
Prosecuting him specifically because she claimed that he inflated the value of his assets in order to obtain real estate loans that he paid back in full and where those lending the money made $40 million in interest.
Every one of them said they would do it again.
The most bogus case I have ever seen.
Lee, how's this all come out?
In other words, I think that the president, I think he's got an incredible constitution, incredible energy, but the far left is really embedded here.
I mean, they're not giving up.
And, you know, I think that understandably, Americans were so overjoyed that Donald Trump won in November.
And we've been celebrating.
We've been enjoying our liberation from forces of darkness.
We feel that we're no longer at the edge of the abyss.
And that's right.
But we also have to keep in mind that this is a very short term.
It can go by awfully quickly.
And the people who've been targeting Donald Trump since 2015, since late 2015, are not going away.
And that's what these protests are about.
And that's what everything is about.
And I think it's also very important to recognize that we flatter many of our neighbors and fellow Americans to say, well, look, now that things are back to normal, people can see that this is better than living in this madness as it was under Joe Biden.
Again, we have to keep in mind that Kamala Harris got an awful lot of votes, and those people are still there.
So I think it's urgent.
It's important that we keep our heads up and see what's going on because Donald Trump does need our support, our vigilance.
Our country needs our support and our vigilance.
Because again, the people who have been targeting Trump for the last decade are not going to give up now.
For them, it's going to get more urgent, more serious.
And open borders is a crucial issue for them, just as it is for us.
For normal Americans who think that if you want to come into the country, you should do it legally.
For them, it's very important.
It's an electoral tool, right?
This is an important part to try to bring these people, to try to bring a potential client base to recreate the electorate.
It's very important for Democratic Party bosses.
So they're going to be out there.
This is what they're fighting for.
It's not because they're kind people who want to give the world a chance to share in the American dream, even if it's illegal.
They're looking at their own electoral fortune.
That's why it's vital to them.
They can't give this up.
So this fight, what we're seeing unfolding now, is again, another, really is an existential battle, right?
The future of America depends on Donald Trump winning on America winning this particular fight over the people who are burning down American cities to get their way and to keep borders open.
It's very serious.
I could not have said it better myself.
I'm afraid we have to wrap it up there.
I want to thank our guest, Elise Smith, and all of you who joined us today in the Stone Zone.
God bless you and Godspeed.
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Choose from their new Master of Science degrees in healthcare, informatics, digital marketing and analytics, business analytics, or financial analytics.
All built around hands-on learning and industry partnerships.
Graduate ready to lead, not just work.
Take the next step at manhattan.edu slash graduate.