The StoneZONE - Roger Stone - The Stone Zone | 04-07-25
Aired: 2025-04-08
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=== Alex Jones: A Survivor And Patriot (03:15) ===

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[00:00:30]  This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
[00:00:44]  People love him and respect him.
[00:00:46]  Roger Stone.
[00:00:47]  Now, get him a zone.
[00:00:49]  It's the Stone Zone.
[00:00:51]  Here's Roger Stone.
[00:00:55]  Welcome.
[00:00:56]  You are entering the Stone Zone.
[00:00:58]  And tonight, you get to be a front row seat in an historic broadcast because tonight my guest is the one and only Alex Jones.
[00:01:10]  Now, it's very appropriate that I interview Alex Jones on radio because Alex Jones himself began his career in the 1990s as a radio host in Austin, Texas on KJFK, FM, quickly gaining attention for his distinctive style and his independent commentary.
[00:01:30]  Over the years, he's expanded his reach through digital platforms, founding Infowars, which became probably the most famous online hub for alternative media.
[00:01:42]  And just as they tried to destroy President Donald Trump, just as they tried to destroy General Michael Flynn, just as they tried to destroy me, they tried to destroy Alex Jones, but they have failed because Alex Jones is a winner.
[00:01:57]  Alex Jones is a warrior.
[00:01:59]  Alex Jones is a survivor, and Alex Jones is a patriot.
[00:02:04]  I'll tell you one other thing.
[00:02:05]  Alex Jones is the most loyal friend that a man can have.
[00:02:09]  And as my family and I face the wrath of a politicized Justice Department, Alex Jones stood by my side, broadcast the truth about their efforts to destroy me, just as I have stood by him.
[00:02:24]  They put him through a ridiculous trial in Connecticut for exercising his First Amendment rights.
[00:02:30]  Now, Alex Jones and I don't always agree on everything.
[00:02:34]  We disagree on a few things, but it is notable that things that Alex Jones predicted or declared years ago that many scoffed at as conspiracy theories turned out to be absolutely correct.
[00:02:48]  Alex Jones, welcome to the Stone Zone.
[00:02:52]  Well, Roger, that's quite the intro, but for some of the listeners out there on this huge station in New York and listening on the internet, they might have heard things people claim I said, but if you didn't see me say it, and you have to make sure it's not AI, then I didn't say it.
[00:03:07]  It's kind of like Trump said, there were a lot of fine people in Charlottesville, but not the white supremacists.
[00:03:12]  They were horrible.
[00:03:12]  They're terrible.
[00:03:13]  I repudiate them.
[00:03:14]  They just cut that part off.

=== Claims and Controversies (03:42) ===

[00:03:15]  So that's what goes on.
[00:03:17]  Most of the bad things attributed to me, I didn't do anything near it, anything close to it.
[00:03:21]  It's just, it's these hoaxes saying that Trump says he hates all Mexicans.
[00:03:26]  He never said anything even close.
[00:03:28]  It's just a giant hoax, a giant lie.
[00:03:30]  But the good news is America and the world are awake to these hoaxes now and take everything with a giant grain of salt.
[00:03:37]  That is exactly true.
[00:03:38]  The other thing people do not understand, but I detail in my book, Making of the President 2016, is the crucial role that you and InfoWars played in the nomination of President Donald Trump.
[00:03:50]  I looked at the polling, and it was shocking how many Republican primary voters in Iowa and New Hampshire and across the country were also listeners to InfoWars.
[00:03:59]  I remember Alex and I first met on the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination.
[00:04:06]  I told him about my theory that Lyndon Baines Johnson played the crucial role in orchestrating the murder of Kennedy.
[00:04:13]  As a Texan, he knew all about it.
[00:04:15]  In fact, he had interviewed Lyndon Johnson's mistress, Madeline Brown, who had confirmed to Alex Jones that the night before and the morning of Kennedy's murder, that Lyndon Baines Johnson said after tomorrow, November 22nd, 1963, I won't ever have to worry about those Kennedys embarrassing me again.
[00:04:36]  Let's go to one of the most famous ones because I've had 100 text messages today about this.
[00:04:41]  You have said that certain chemicals in our water turn the frogs gay.
[00:04:45]  Now, many, many people mocked you, but ultimately, you turned out to be correct about that.
[00:04:51]  Please explain.
[00:04:54]  Well, sure.
[00:04:54]  That was like 16, 17 years ago.
[00:04:56]  I did like a 30-minute report with the University of Berkeley, California, and the University of Durban, South Africa, and a university out of Japan that atrazine at allowable levels in the U.S. in the water were bending the gender of the majority of frogs, turning some trans, and then a large portion were literally gay.
[00:05:18]  They would not try to have sex with females or fertilize the eggs.
[00:05:22]  They sit on top of the female and then do that way as the eggs come out.
[00:05:25]  They would instead try to procreate with the male frogs.
[00:05:29]  And, of course, their populations plummet down to almost nothing.
[00:05:32]  And it happens all over the country in the world where atrazine is used, the second most popular herbicide.
[00:05:39]  And so I was covering that, but at the end, I said, listen, I'm not against gay people in general.
[00:05:44]  What I'm saying is I don't want chemicals in the water that turn the friggin frogs gay.
[00:05:47]  And so the late night comics got that.
[00:05:49]  They all got it.
[00:05:50]  They ran with it and said, this person is insane.
[00:05:52]  So they ignored 30 minutes of me reading studies, just took that 15-second clip and said, this person is totally insane.
[00:05:59]  So again, that's how they deceive by editing things.
[00:06:04]  But absolutely, and that's what Robert F. Tennady Jr., as the name of HHH said, is moving in to deal with because it's cut and dry that so-called fluoride in the water is really hydrofluorosilicic acid, a weaponized, really cranked up form of fluoride.
[00:06:17]  Because it's true, you need, my dad's a dentist, you need a little bit of sodium fluoride as a trace element in your diet, a tiny amount.
[00:06:28]  And it is true that fluoride is used when you're a fetus forming what will later become your teeth.
[00:06:33]  But the hydrofluorosic acid is very, very toxic, very, very deadly, causes cancer, lower IQs, dental fluorosis, a lot of things.
[00:06:42]  And so they're now admitting the FDA last year that it does lower IQ and does cause infertility and bone cancer.
[00:06:50]  And it's the same thing with atrazine that's in almost all the water supply in the United States.
[00:06:55]  And it's a big issue.

=== Concerns About Fluoride Use (15:36) ===

[00:06:58]  And Kennedy's also just come out.
[00:07:01]  They had a grandfather clause that thousands of chemicals that are food additives never had to be studied and never had to be looked at for any type of danger.
[00:07:12]  And so many of them have been linked, like red dye number three and others to serious behavioral problems.
[00:07:17]  And they're also very, very addictive.
[00:07:19]  So it's not just the cigarette makers that were famously adding chemicals to cigarettes, which are more addictive.
[00:07:27]  It's actually big food that's been doing it.
[00:07:30]  So Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is going after that a lot more.
[00:07:32]  So just what Trump's done, getting Kennedy in, is just really beautiful and really paying some major dividends for health.
[00:07:40]  I could not agree more.
[00:07:41]  Look, the president is trying to reset the American economy.
[00:07:45]  There's three legs on this stool.
[00:07:47]  Yes, we're going to use tariffs and we're going to use them as a cudgel to make our trading partners trade fairly with us.
[00:07:54]  If the president, who I've known for 50 years, had his way, there'd be no tariffs whatsoever.
[00:07:58]  And if other countries will drop all of their tariffs, we'll go to zero tariffs.
[00:08:02]  But also, there's two other legs of the stool.
[00:08:04]  We need to renew the Trump across-the-board tax cuts before January.
[00:08:10]  Failure to do so would be actually de facto approval of the largest single tax increase in American history.
[00:08:17]  And then we need to cut federal spending.
[00:08:20]  I mean, Elon Musk has shown the way here.
[00:08:23]  $140 million from taxpayers to the New York Times, $90 million to Politico, $5 million to Reuters, $150 million to Brown University.
[00:08:38]  Why?
[00:08:40]  So I think the globalists are trying to crash our stock market.
[00:08:44]  I think this giant sell-off, our institutional investors purposely trying to crash the stock market.
[00:08:52]  I think the SEC or Doge should conduct a forensic audit immediately on the large trades.
[00:08:58]  What's going on in the market today, Alex?
[00:09:01]  Well, Roger, I was able to predict when President Trump was president-elect that in March and April, they're going to try to crash the stock market because there was record big brokerage firm naked shorts and put options coming up.
[00:09:15]  And then when Trump first announced he'd do it in March, they placed most of their put options to the middle of March, but he moved it back a month, which was very strategic.
[00:09:24]  So you saw that little dip in March.
[00:09:26]  So they had to move it around.
[00:09:27]  And then $3 trillion in the last three months has been moved into the EU stock market.
[00:09:34]  And so they're actually quite honest about the fact that they're trying to spook everybody onto supporting this because Trump said in his first administration, about three years in, he said, you know, I thought I knew about trade, and I did, but he said I learned, we got the numbers from China and India and other countries that I thought they were the ones only ripping us off.
[00:09:51]  It turns out there were these big middlemen, these big banks and groups that had gone and made these deals and controlled our politicians in America to where we wouldn't have tariffs on their countries, but they'd have to go through these middlemen who Trump learned were getting most of the profit.
[00:10:07]  And so Trump is literally, I mean, we'd hold all the cards.
[00:10:10]  Would most of these countries have a 90-10 trade deficit?
[00:10:14]  They have all these other hidden non-monetary tariffs like the VAT taxes and the currency manipulations and so many other things.
[00:10:21]  And so, I mean, we have all the cards right now because we're the biggest market in the world.
[00:10:26]  We still have the World Reserve Currency.
[00:10:28]  And our politicians, and he's right, I love Reagan.
[00:10:31]  Trump loves Reagan.
[00:10:33]  But Reagan really was the first to go along with this.
[00:10:36]  It was Reagan's big mistake.
[00:10:37]  He was manipulated into it.
[00:10:39]  I don't blame him.
[00:10:40]  But that's when it started.
[00:10:41]  It got much worse under Herbert Walker Bush.
[00:10:43]  Then it got really bad under Clinton, bringing China, most favorite trading status into the World Trade Organization.
[00:10:50]  And Trump's effectively pulled out of the World Trade Organization saying, well, we'll handle policy back to Congress, back to him.
[00:10:55]  He's also cut the funding to the World Trade Organization that's been suing us over trade disputes.
[00:11:02]  And so he's effectively returned trade to the United States that made us the wealthiest, greatest country on earth, the industrial juggernaut, second to none.
[00:11:12]  And so as Trump said, look, don't be spooked.
[00:11:14]  Don't be weak.
[00:11:15]  Don't be cowards.
[00:11:17]  He invented this new word, don't be a panic.
[00:11:21]  So be an American, don't be a panikin.
[00:11:25]  And so it just comes out of that.
[00:11:27]  We hold all the cards.
[00:11:28]  Only the American people can grab defeat from the jaws of victory.
[00:11:33]  This is going to make us fabulously wealthy.
[00:11:35]  It's going to build up our industrial base.
[00:11:37]  And look, Trump's always said this.
[00:11:38]  They try to drive a wedge between Elon and Trump in the public side saying, oh, Elon came out in a speech this weekend and said the goal is zero tariffs in global free trade.
[00:11:48]  We've got speech after speech after speech of Trump saying that at the EU in 2018 and saying it, you know, 30, 40 years ago and saying it a month ago.
[00:11:57]  So I played all these clips on my show yesterday where Trump says the goal is to get them to go to zero tariffs and real open free trade.
[00:12:03]  But until they do it, we're going to do this.
[00:12:06]  And look, Trump had the EU agree in 2018, you pulled the clips up, that they were going to go to zero tariffs, but then they didn't do it.
[00:12:14]  So that's why Trump said today with Netanyahu, he said, listen, they always say they're going to do it.
[00:12:18]  They don't do it.
[00:12:18]  So I'm going ahead and doing this up front to make them make the deal.
[00:12:22]  Just like Zelensky six times has said he'll sign the minerals deal.
[00:12:26]  He really already signed it secretly with Jerusalem four or five months ago.
[00:12:30]  And then he comes to the White House and gets spanked saying he was coming to sign it, then wouldn't sign it, meeting with Democrats that morning saying on TV he wouldn't sign it.
[00:12:39]  And then I've told people, I said, he'll go back again.
[00:12:41]  Then a few weeks ago, he says, I'm not doing the deal.
[00:12:43]  Now the headlines are, oh, Zelensky made a mistake.
[00:12:45]  He's sending representatives to do this minerals deal.
[00:12:49]  Look, look, if we end this war that we got Hoodwinks into funding with $300 billion at least, we have to get paid back or we basically lost that war.
[00:12:58]  Trump's trying to end the war, get American taxpayers their money back and do the right thing and have them do a minerals deal because their minerals aren't even discovered yet.
[00:13:07]  I mean, most of them, you know, but the point is we know they're there.
[00:13:09]  So Trump is literally going to bat for us on every front.
[00:13:13]  And people are politically, culturally, economically suicidal if they don't get behind him.
[00:13:18]  If you're just tuning in, we're talking to the one and only Alex Jones here in the Stone Zone, and we'll be right back.
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[00:14:35]  This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
[00:14:39]  They went after a guy named Roger Stone, who's sitting in the office.
[00:14:43]  And I'll say this to Trevor Rogers.
[00:14:44]  He's no baby.
[00:14:45]  And right now, he's cleaner than anybody in this place.
[00:14:49]  Now, they treated him very unfairly.
[00:14:51]  Now, give him a zone.
[00:14:53]  It's the stone zone.
[00:14:55]  Here's Roger Stone.
[00:15:01]  And we're back in the Stone Zone.
[00:15:03]  We're talking to Alex Jones.
[00:15:05]  You can watch him at Infowars.com and make sure to watch him at RealAlex Jones on X. Alex, President Trump met with President Netanyahu of Israel today.
[00:15:17]  Do you think Netanyahu will be able to drag President Trump into war with Iran or will Trump continue to be the world's peacemaker?
[00:15:26]  Well, I'm going to be 100% clear.
[00:15:28]  I'm not anti-Israel, but I see Israel coming out to the United States, a great country, great people, but a lot of potential to get into wars we shouldn't be getting into.
[00:15:38]  And I hated October 7th, and, you know, that was terrible.
[00:15:42]  But then I also, you know, don't like seeing some of the overreaction.
[00:15:45]  My larger concern is that Iran is allied with Russia and China and has a defense alliance.
[00:15:53]  And so if Israel really obliterates them, what they're talking about to do, undoubtedly the United States is probably going to get drawn into that.
[00:16:00]  And my concern is Russia and China.
[00:16:02]  So that's why Trump's trying to end another reason he's trying to end the Ukraine war, not just the hundreds of millions and the million dead and the fact that Russia's nuclear power, but the fact that if Israel does need to go into Iran, you don't want to be fighting a two-front war.
[00:16:17]  So as critical as I am of Israel sometimes, like I am our own government, I am really critical of the Iranians and the fact that they have encircled Israel with all these proxy armies in Hezbollah, in Lebanon, in Gaza, in the West Bank, and in, you know, you've got the Houthis and all the rest of it.
[00:16:38]  You know, in other countries firing ballistic missiles in.
[00:16:41]  So whereas I don't want war and I've never supported any of these wars in my 30 years on air, Iran is really out of control.
[00:16:49]  So at the same time, I'm just extremely concerned, and that's why Trump's trying to get a deal.
[00:16:55]  He said to Netanyahu the other day in the world, he said, listen, I hope we get a deal because we don't want to do the other obvious thing, which is a war.
[00:17:02]  Look, the Iranians have already had their ass kicked.
[00:17:06]  Israel has already taken them out in Lebanon.
[00:17:10]  They've already taken them out in the other areas.
[00:17:12]  The U.S. has taken out the Houthis, spent a billion bucks on bombs, reportedly knocked back into the Stone Age.
[00:17:19]  Sure, Iran, notice that Israel, and so does Trump, wants them to not just give up a nuclear program, but now they're ballistic missiles.
[00:17:26]  From my intel, and Netanyahu said this 23 years ago, Iran's two weeks away from MANUC.
[00:17:32]  Well, they've had it for at least 15 years, according to my sources that are very high level.
[00:17:36]  What they didn't have is a delivery system.
[00:17:38]  Now, because China and Russia have given it to them, they have a later generation.
[00:17:45]  They're still 1980s version compared to the U.S., and it's still way better than Scott missiles they had.
[00:17:51]  And so Iran now has ballistic missiles that most of them can get through.
[00:17:56]  They fire five or six of them in an Israeli base.
[00:17:58]  Remember last year, some Israeli bases at headquarters got hit by ballistic missiles, and they said, oh, there wasn't even a bomb on it.
[00:18:05]  These are weak.
[00:18:05]  No, the Iranians were demonstrating that they can deliver a nuclear weapon, that that was a test, just like when Putin hit that base in Ukraine with that new ballistic missile, and then it just launched like eight warheads on re-entry and punched a hole in each warehouse.
[00:18:24]  And they said, oh, it didn't really blow anything up.
[00:18:26]  What is this?
[00:18:26]  And Putin said, I'm demonstrating that could be tipped with nuclear weapons.
[00:18:30]  It's a MERV multiple re-entry device, ICBM system.
[00:18:35]  And so that's really the issue here: Iran now has delivery system.
[00:18:40]  So Iran's asking for it.
[00:18:42]  I don't support Israel hitting them because it can get out of hand.
[00:18:46]  But you've got like two pit bulls in a cage that want to kill each other.
[00:18:51]  And I agree with Senator Paul.
[00:18:52]  I wish we weren't involved.
[00:18:54]  The problem is we're being sucked into this.
[00:18:56]  So it's really something that has a hard answer to.
[00:18:59]  All right.
[00:18:59]  You're tuned into the stone zone when we come back.
[00:19:02]  I guess Alex Jones about the chemtrails and the fact that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says he's going to investigate them.
[00:19:20]  I'm not just stepping stones.
[00:19:23]  This is the stone zone.
[00:19:25]  Now, in the zone, it's the stone zone.
[00:19:29]  Here's Roger Stone.
[00:19:33]  And we're back in the stone zone.
[00:19:35]  We're talking to Alex Jones, host of the Alex Jones Show.
[00:19:38]  You can see it at Infowars.com or watch it on X, where he is real Alex Jones.
[00:19:45]  It is the marketplace for free thinkers.
[00:19:48]  Alex, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Announced that he's putting together a team to investigate the potential harms of geoengineering, what many call chemtrails.
[00:19:59]  You've been talking about this for years.
[00:20:02]  What is RFK Jr.'s team going to discover?
[00:20:06]  All right, for your listeners, who I'm sure a lot of them are super informed, but for those that may not be aware of this, there's been a lot of mainstream TV shows, news programs debunking the word chemtrails.
[00:20:16]  And if you do a FORA request to the Department of Energy or the Pentagon or any of these groups or NOAA, the federal government's weather bureau, and you say, give me documents on chemtrails, they won't give you any because that's not the technical name.
[00:20:33]  It's like if you sent in a document to health and human services that said, give me FORA requests for anything to deal with abroad.
[00:20:41]  Well, that's a 1950s term for a woman.
[00:20:44]  They said, we don't have any documents on broads.
[00:20:46]  But if you ask for female adult women, they would have millions and billions of documents.
[00:20:50]  So they play this game saying there's no such thing as chemtrails because, yeah, there's not.
[00:20:55]  That's a layperson's term.
[00:20:57]  But in the early 1990s, there was a two scientists won a Nobel Prize for a plan to add barium salt aluminum to jet fuel or kerosene.
[00:21:06]  And then there's a patent that the jet engines, any jet engine, will create nuclei that forms these little ionized particles that accelerate water droplet formation, then forms clouds and then rain.
[00:21:21]  And they said that they would add this to jet fuel to mitigate and block UV radiation from the sun that is responsible for most global warming.
[00:21:30]  And anybody, unless you're hiding under a rock or you can just search engine in the last decade, Bill Gates has proposed adding chemicals to jet fuel to, quote, create a sunscreen to save the Earth.
[00:21:40]  Then we had John Brennan out going out of the CIA about 10 years ago do a C-SPAN talk where he said, yeah, we have a weather treaty with the UN 1977, and we've got really powerful geoengineering aerosol spray campaigns that we've been testing.
[00:21:57]  That's what they call the operation.
[00:21:58]  It's really already operational.
[00:21:59]  But there's a lot of lawsuits with the citizenry and with government, so we've kept it secret.
[00:22:04]  But he said we'd like to develop a plan to roll this out publicly.
[00:22:07]  And then you've got a bunch of Middle Eastern countries like Dubai and others, and also China and Russia admit that they have this geoengineering.
[00:22:15]  And I'm not talking about written some planes to spray some clouds to create snow for a snow resort, for a ski resort.
[00:22:22]  I'm not talking about that stuff's been around for 80 years.
[00:22:24]  Everybody knows about that.
[00:22:25]  I'm talking about industrial level, basically they call it geoengineering, but the real term is terraforming.

=== Operation Globalist Tyranny (15:12) ===

[00:22:34]  And the chemicals they use are very, very toxic.
[00:22:36]  It's much bigger than the Manhattan Project that was kept secret for four years to create the atom bomb.
[00:22:41]  And they've been able to keep it quasi-secret.
[00:22:44]  But meanwhile, they have these big geoengineering summits with world leaders and others.
[00:22:49]  And again, John Brennan, just, oh, yeah, you can go to the CFR website right there in New York there at Prat House.
[00:22:55]  And they talk about the ongoing geoengineering program.
[00:22:58]  So, you know, they're having this open discussion about this global weather modification program and the treaties and all of it.
[00:23:06]  And then we raise it.
[00:23:07]  They go, oh, you're crazy.
[00:23:08]  But Robert F. Kennedy Jr. knows it's real.
[00:23:10]  It's in literally so many documents, it makes your head spin if you use the right terms.
[00:23:15]  And so he has pledged, because it is a health and human service issue, to look at this and to get into this.
[00:23:22]  I've yet to hear Trump talk about it.
[00:23:24]  His fan base would go wild because, you know, just like we know there's a secret space program, we don't know the details, but they admit it's there, 80% of NASA's secret.
[00:23:33]  Just like the JFK thing has been secret, so much has been kept from us.
[00:23:39]  But this whole geoengineering, that's a scientific name or lay term, chemtrails is just a huge, huge area.
[00:23:48]  And so I'm very excited about that coming out.
[00:23:51]  Alex, Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum announced that he's stepping down.
[00:23:56]  David Rockefeller is dead.
[00:23:58]  George Soros is getting on in years.
[00:24:02]  The EU, I think, is on the verge of collapse.
[00:24:06]  Their countries are being overrun due to illegal and legal immigration.
[00:24:12]  Are the globalists in free fall?
[00:24:15]  Are they suffering a crisis of competence?
[00:24:18]  And is the radical left in America today more dangerous because they're cornered than ever before?
[00:24:26]  Well, I think you just answered your own question.
[00:24:29]  Let me explain it this way.
[00:24:31]  The globalist corporate neoliberal system, that's their own names for themselves, for decades they would deny they existed on the New York Times and CNN while they wrote books and had summits and Davos and admitted for their plan for private corporate world government, for austerity for us under carbon taxes and fake environmental rules.
[00:24:53]  And they all fly around on private jets within palaces that we debug.
[00:24:56]  But that didn't work.
[00:24:57]  So we identified their program.
[00:24:59]  We exposed their technocracies, what they call themselves technocrats, ruled by the technological elite over the public.
[00:25:06]  So you have Schwab leaving as the chairman.
[00:25:09]  You have Kiera Starmer over the weekend saying globalism is dead in an op-ed, admitting it was bad for humanity and that Trump and the tariffs is right, that he's going to submit.
[00:25:18]  You have Ursula van der Leyden, the head of the unelected EU Commission.
[00:25:22]  That's right.
[00:25:23]  The EU folks has a ceremonial parliament that's elected.
[00:25:25]  But the 756 is a trade deal called the Treaty of Rome on steel.
[00:25:31]  And just like they tried with NAPTA and GATT, the North American Union that Lou Dobbs exposed, and I did it at the same time, but it wasn't as big as him back when he was doing it.
[00:25:39]  We really owe it to Lou and Ron Paul, then a congressman.
[00:25:42]  They were using trade deals to get us to sign away our sovereignty to these international groups.
[00:25:47]  So we were able to kill most of that.
[00:25:50]  And then Trump's pulled us out of the Paris Accord and the carbon tax that's meant to fund all this.
[00:25:55]  So globalism is dying.
[00:25:59]  It will never take over.
[00:26:00]  Its plan will never succeed.
[00:26:02]  Populism's rising, but it's not dead yet.
[00:26:05]  It's trying to claw Western civilization into a hole with it.
[00:26:08]  So yes, they're dead.
[00:26:09]  They're just not dead yet.
[00:26:11]  So there's the paradox of that.
[00:26:14]  They'll never have their new world order.
[00:26:15]  They'll never have their globalist plan realized now.
[00:26:18]  I mean, you've got Colleen Georgescu wins an election, arrested, banned from running.
[00:26:24]  Marine Le Pen, the consummate patriot, Trump, the French model of that for decades.
[00:26:30]  Her father, incredible patriot, anti-globalist.
[00:26:33]  A judge finds her guilty of nothing for campaign stuff when she's 10 points ahead in the polls.
[00:26:39]  The EU saying they'll cancel the Hungarian election if they don't like it.
[00:26:43]  They'll cancel the German election if they don't like it.
[00:26:45]  They'll cancel the Polish election.
[00:26:47]  Similar to the State Department under Biden advising Lula, the communist, to indict Alsonaro, the patriot, and then ban him from the ballot.
[00:26:56]  So people see that and go, oh my God, they're arresting everybody.
[00:26:59]  But that's the last gasp of tyrants to make them openly engage in totalitarian activity with the mask off.
[00:27:09]  And so, yes, I mean, look, Europe has a negative birth rate.
[00:27:12]  Europe's imported, you know, 80% of these migrant illegals are military-aged men that don't get jobs.
[00:27:19]  So about 80% aren't military-aged men.
[00:27:21]  About 85% never get a job ever.
[00:27:23]  They just sit around in no-go zones, collect welfare and pimp and deal drugs and throw hang grenades at people literally and just rape at leisure.
[00:27:30]  A German woman got raped by one of them and complained.
[00:27:33]  She got three years in prison.
[00:27:34]  The guy that did it got four months.
[00:27:36]  And it's the same thing in the UK.
[00:27:39]  So they thought they could go ahead with this plan, but the EU was so dumb, they thought they'd have austerity and cut off the resources and support Biden blowing up their gas supply, the Russian pipeline Nord Stream.
[00:27:50]  And instead, the public has turned against them because the old days, people didn't know about the globalists.
[00:27:55]  Now they're exposed.
[00:27:56]  So yeah, they're in free fall right now.
[00:27:59]  And Trump is rightfully calling out the arrest of Marine Le Pen, the frontrunner.
[00:28:04]  And they go, oh, you're meddling in our elections.
[00:28:06]  The EU is suing Elon Musk, billion-dollar fines.
[00:28:09]  They're suing thousands of U.S. companies.
[00:28:11]  British government saying they'll arrest citizens here for our speech.
[00:28:14]  So anybody that says it's election meddling for America to say we'll put more sanctions on you or we'll put more tariffs on you if you engage in tyranny against your population.
[00:28:24]  Now, that's what we're supposed to do.
[00:28:25]  Like when Russia was the Soviet Union and we had a Cold War with them because we opposed their ideology.
[00:28:31]  Well, today it's not even so much Russia, though it's strongman-run and thuggish.
[00:28:36]  It's a minor issue tyranny-wise compared to the EU and China.
[00:28:40]  And China, for those that don't know, 15 years ago, double-crossed the globalists.
[00:28:44]  They were supposed to have no military expansion, but they'd be dominant in trade with the globalists as middlemen.
[00:28:50]  They double-crossed Obama, expanded all over the world, not just the South China Sea.
[00:28:54]  So the globalism fell apart really then.
[00:28:55]  That was the beginning of their death.
[00:28:58]  That was the grievous blow.
[00:28:59]  Now they've got gangrene from that.
[00:29:02]  And so now publicly, China is allied with the EU against the United States.
[00:29:07]  Starmer and the King have come to Trump and said, we wanted a new alliance with you.
[00:29:12]  And they've publicly been begging for that.
[00:29:14]  Now Starmer has surrendered Friday and said, okay, Trump's right.
[00:29:19]  We're not going to retaliate.
[00:29:21]  He's right.
[00:29:21]  We shouldn't be charging you these huge tariffs when you don't charge us.
[00:29:25]  50-plus countries have now lined up, Vietnam, South Korea, Taiwan, Israel, joining us.
[00:29:31]  So we had all the cards.
[00:29:33]  We're the biggest market, as I said earlier, and they've all got 90-10 on average trade splits.
[00:29:39]  And it's over.
[00:29:42]  And so this is a real revolution.
[00:29:44]  And Trump has said a month ago, he doesn't just want to be the biggest energy exporter, as we are again.
[00:29:49]  He wants to cut energy prices worldwide because that's good for commerce and trade.
[00:29:53]  And he wants open free trade and reciprocal trade.
[00:29:56]  That's the real Wall Wall West dynamo.
[00:29:59]  But he's got to do this because, again, these countries never negotiate in good faith.
[00:30:03]  They promise, they promise, they promise, but they never actually do the agreements.
[00:30:07]  And so Trump is exercising this power for America.
[00:30:12]  And it's just, it's so refreshing to live through decades of tyranny and corrupt Republicans and Democrats that were busy selling out America's largesse to now have Trump at the 11th hour snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and really turn the country around.
[00:30:26]  The only way we fail, as he said, is if we're weak.
[00:30:30]  And if we are panicked, and if we buy into this mirage, but all the numbers are so far, we've had some choppy stuff that's happened.
[00:30:40]  That's what happens in a revolution economically.
[00:30:42]  But overall, this is going really, really well.
[00:30:45]  We will not fail.
[00:30:46]  We will not fold.
[00:30:48]  We will not bend and we will not falter.
[00:30:50]  And we'll be back with Alex Jones.
[00:30:52]  I want to ask him about the Supreme Court ruling correctly to stop a federal judge who was trying to end the deportation of violent criminals and terrorists.
[00:31:03]  So don't go away.
[00:31:04]  We'll be right back in the stone zone with Alex Jones.
[00:31:07]  Don't touch that dial.
[00:31:20]  This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
[00:31:24]  They went after a guy named Roger Stone who's sitting in the office.
[00:31:27]  And I'll say this in front of Roger.
[00:31:29]  He's no baby.
[00:31:30]  And right now he's cleaner than anybody in this place.
[00:31:34]  Now, as they treated him very unfairly.
[00:31:36]  Now, get in the zone.
[00:31:38]  It's the stone zone.
[00:31:40]  Here's Roger Stone.
[00:31:46]  And we're back with Alex Jones, the host of the Alex Jones Show.
[00:31:51]  You can watch him at Infowars.com or catch him on X at RealAlex Jones.
[00:31:57]  Alex, I noticed that the 90-minute show you and I did on the Kennedy assassination and the documents which have been released, which are far, far from complete, has 63 million views online.
[00:32:13]  Thank you, my friend.
[00:32:15]  I want to ask you.
[00:32:16]  Yeah, that was just that one interview.
[00:32:18]  And by the way, Trump called up after it.
[00:32:21]  He really liked that interview.
[00:32:22]  He did.
[00:32:22]  He loved that interview.
[00:32:23]  I was with the president Saturday night at Mar-Lago.
[00:32:25]  Judge Janine Pirro was there, also Secretary State Marco Rubio.
[00:32:31]  I must say the president has never looked better.
[00:32:34]  He was in an excellent mood.
[00:32:36]  I notice his hair color is almost the same as mine now.
[00:32:40]  It's like he's gotten blonder and blinder.
[00:32:42]  No, I noticed he's going with the gray fox look.
[00:32:44]  I think it looks good.
[00:32:45]  Yeah, I do.
[00:32:46]  The silver fox, we call it.
[00:32:47]  I think he's looking great.
[00:32:48]  I want to ask you about Owen Schroer.
[00:32:51]  Owen Schroyer and I co-hosted a show called The War Room over at Infowars.com for 18 months.
[00:32:57]  It was the happiest period of my life, I must say.
[00:33:00]  But recently, he was swatted.
[00:33:02]  This is when somebody calls in a fake emergency call to 911 and says that, oh, Owen Schroyer has killed several people and he's keeping others hostage in his home.
[00:33:13]  And then they rush to the home.
[00:33:14]  It's very, very difficult.
[00:33:16]  They're trying to get you killed.
[00:33:17]  It's attempted murder.
[00:33:18]  It really is.
[00:33:19]  And then InfoWars writer Jamie White, who I also worked with, was tragically murdered only last month.
[00:33:25]  Do you think that these attacks, or some of them, are related to the Ukrainian kill list that was published?
[00:33:32]  They specifically named members of the InfoWars staff?
[00:33:38]  Yeah, I really do.
[00:33:39]  And it's not just me.
[00:33:40]  We've talked to the FBI about it.
[00:33:42]  Everyone being swatted is on this Ukrainian hit list, and they killed American journalist Gonzalo Lira.
[00:33:49]  And they call you a Russian agent.
[00:33:51]  I have nothing to do with the Russians, just like you, like Trump.
[00:33:54]  But we are, again, spending hundreds of millions of dollars in a senseless war that threatens nuclear war.
[00:33:59]  So, yeah, I'm very, very concerned about it.
[00:34:02]  And, you know, we're just so in the battle.
[00:34:04]  We just move home.
[00:34:04]  We're so sad for Jamie.
[00:34:05]  Shot execution style, but I'm all from my studio at night through the neck.
[00:34:10]  And everybody that has, I mean, it's hundreds of people have been swatted now.
[00:34:15]  And it's everybody that's on this Ukrainian hit list, Ukrainian government hit list.
[00:34:22]  And the guy that tried to come kill Trump at Mar-Lago was a big leftist with all these six phones and multiple passports working with connections to the U.S. intelligence agencies over the left who was recruiting fighters for Ukraine.
[00:34:36]  So General Flynn, who you know well, as a frequent guest with you, has explained all this, and he got high-level government contact data.
[00:34:46]  And I got this as well from the feds that came and visited us, that there is actually a hit out.
[00:34:52]  Previously, it was on Trump and his family through the globalist, but now they're saying Iran is funding the cartels to try to kill Trump and his family.
[00:35:04]  And then I'm kind of proud of it, but they say I'm on the list.
[00:35:07]  I'm not sure it's not some globalist group saying they're Iranians doing it.
[00:35:11]  I'm certainly not lionizing the Iranians.
[00:35:13]  It's just that they tried to say that Crooks in Butler PA that tried to kill Trump on July 13th last year was, quote, tied to the Iranians.
[00:35:22]  That story went nowhere because it wasn't true.
[00:35:24]  But regardless, there was a big Rutgers study out of liberals, of Democrats, and 55% say they support the assassination of Trump and basically domestic terrorism.
[00:35:36]  So we don't need to bring Iranians in here.
[00:35:38]  It's not Iranians burning down Tesla dealerships and beating up women driving Teslas.
[00:35:43]  It's not Iranians planting bombs at Tesla dealerships in Austin where I live, where I was at a protest, counter-protesting one week before.
[00:35:50]  We don't need the Iranians for that.
[00:35:52]  We've got our own leftists here, and it's a very serious situation.
[00:35:56]  Yeah, I'm very familiar with this.
[00:35:57]  As you know, the FBI approached me and my attorney during the recent presidential election to tell me that my personal emails, two different ones, had been hacked.
[00:36:07]  I could find no evidence of this alleged hacking by the Iranians.
[00:36:11]  But then I reminded my lawyer, these are the same people who said that the Russians colluded with the Trump campaign, which turned out to be 100% false.
[00:36:22]  Scientists announced recently they brought back dire wolves using ancient DNA with the first new dire wolf being born in October of 2024.
[00:36:35]  This is after 10,000 years of this particular type of wolf being extinct.
[00:36:40]  Now, you previously discussed hybrid monstrosities being created with similar technology.
[00:36:46]  What type of cloning or gene-altering technology do you think has been developed here that the American people are not aware of?
[00:36:55]  Well, again, this is something like the gay frogs thing I got criticized for.
[00:37:00]  I was just killing off documents.
[00:37:02]  Anybody can type in, you know, frogs becoming transgender or gay from atrazine.
[00:37:06]  You'll be looking at major studies going back 40 years.
[00:37:09]  Yeah, I've been on there 31 years next week, and I remember I was on local talk radio, so I didn't know much, but listeners, because Austin was still a big tech city then, a lot smaller, would send me like MIT quarterly.
[00:37:23]  So I remember getting MIT magazines and stuff.
[00:37:26]  I mean, they were academic, but they were journals, about how they had spliced humans with animals like 35 years ago and were implanting them in cow uteruses and bringing them to turn for organ harvesting.
[00:37:41]  Now, if you look at the news last week, it was everywhere.
[00:37:43]  Oh, scientists say we can grow humanoid clones for organ harvesting.

=== Humanoid Clones for Organ Harvesting (03:57) ===

[00:37:46]  It's no big deal.
[00:37:47]  It was all over the news.
[00:37:48]  They were PRing it.
[00:37:49]  So, yeah, we're really in the future now.
[00:37:51]  You know, it's been said by many futurists that the future is here.
[00:37:54]  It's just not evenly distributed.
[00:37:56]  So, yeah, they can bring back woolly mammoths, dire wolves, all of this.
[00:38:01]  And the way they get around creating these human clones in laboratories that they now want to commercialize to grow organs is by saying, well, they're not fully human.
[00:38:11]  So they'll add some cow to it so that it'll be the cow is a clone.
[00:38:16]  This is just some of the studies, some of the things.
[00:38:19]  The cow itself is a clone that's part human.
[00:38:21]  It looks like a cow, but it's small part human.
[00:38:24]  Then they'll create a human clone that's also part of that cow so it doesn't get rejected and so the organs don't get rejected.
[00:38:31]  I'm oversimplifying it, but anybody can pull this up.
[00:38:33]  People are like, I never heard of this.
[00:38:34]  Well, you didn't look it up, folks.
[00:38:35]  You'll be like scientific American.
[00:38:38]  And so you've got all that.
[00:38:39]  Then there's another issue with zoological viruses.
[00:38:42]  We were all worried when they dug up the 1918 Spanish flu at the North Pole with some of these dead Eskimos because that flu was gone.
[00:38:49]  We don't have the immunity to it today.
[00:38:51]  It killed 50 million people conservatively or more.
[00:38:54]  Well, it's the same thing with zoological viruses.
[00:38:57]  We now know viruses embed even in DNA structure.
[00:39:01]  That's part of what DNA absorbs and learns to deal with.
[00:39:04]  And so when they're bringing back these tissues with DNA, there's contamination with other RNA and things that are in there.
[00:39:11]  So they're really concerned about bringing back extinct species because they could then slough off new viruses.
[00:39:17]  So this is definitely Pandora's box.
[00:39:19]  We are in the island of Dr. Maru for real.
[00:39:22]  We have about two minutes.
[00:39:23]  Alex, you supported Donald Trump in 2016.
[00:39:28]  You supported him in 2020.
[00:39:30]  You supported him in 2024.
[00:39:33]  You don't always agree with him.
[00:39:34]  Neither do I.
[00:39:36]  We think he's right.
[00:39:37]  I would say 80% of the time.
[00:39:38]  There's a few times I disagree with him, but I think he is a different man.
[00:39:44]  I think he was great during his first term, but I think he is even greater today.
[00:39:49]  I think he is going to be a transformational president.
[00:39:51]  I think he's going to lead us to a golden age of peace, prosperity, security, and justice.
[00:39:58]  In the time we have left, about two minutes, how do you think he's doing?
[00:40:01]  And if you had any one recommendation, because I know the president watches you and he listens to you.
[00:40:06]  I actually know he loves you.
[00:40:08]  And I have to give the people over at the Daily Beast something to write about.
[00:40:12]  How do you think he's doing?
[00:40:13]  And if you had one recommendation for him in the minute and a half we have left, what would it be?
[00:40:18]  Well, hey, I disagree with everything you've said that I accept thing.
[00:40:22]  I agree with 95% of the old Trump.
[00:40:25]  He's definitely 2.0 now.
[00:40:26]  I agree with about 99%.
[00:40:29]  And so his energy, his stamina, his will, his truthfulness, the fact that he says what he means, he does what he says.
[00:40:36]  I mean, I just think he's knocking out of the park.
[00:40:38]  He's doing the very best job he can cutting off the funding to the deep state.
[00:40:41]  It takes time and the wheels of justice to indict people.
[00:40:44]  But overall, I mean, I think he is really doing a great job.
[00:40:48]  And, you know, I just think that he should keep going after big tech to stop the censorship.
[00:40:54]  He should go after election fraud.
[00:40:56]  He's doing that.
[00:40:57]  I mean, quite frankly, I have no complaints.
[00:40:59]  I mean, I just think Trump's doing the best job we can.
[00:41:01]  He's a gift from God.
[00:41:02]  And I'll see folks over at Infowars.com.
[00:41:05]  Roger, love you.
[00:41:06]  All right.
[00:41:07]  I want to thank our guest, Alex Jones.
[00:41:09]  You can see him over there at Infowars.com.
[00:41:11]  Check it out.
[00:41:11]  Alex, God bless you and Godspeed.
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