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March 12, 2025 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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The Stone Zone | 03-11-25

Roger Stone dissects Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger’s resignation amid $2.3B lobbying wins for Biden and a 1963 JFK memo—authenticated but buried—revealing UFO briefings tied to Cold War paranoia, fueling assassination theories despite Trump’s partial file release. Meanwhile, Hunter Biden’s sealed warrants spark DOJ favoritism claims, while Biden’s "AutoPen" pardons for criminals like Pelosi and Schiff face scrutiny over cognitive decline allegations. A $375B Podesta-managed climate fund, including a $7B no-strings Harris donation to Climate United, raises fraud flags as Abrams’ nonprofit hid a $2B EPA grant. Geopolitically, Trump’s 1988 NATO critique now aligns with his $800B European defense push post-Ukraine aid halt, while Colonel John Mills warns U.S. Syria intervention backfired, Ukraine’s ceasefire looms, and Blinken-Vindman’s Logan Act violations may have sabotaged Trump’s peace deal. Cyber threats and a 355-ship Navy by 2030 demand shipbuilding overhauls, but Stone circles back to Manger’s exit as rural healthcare access takes center stage. [Automatically generated summary]

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Documents On Kennedy Assassination Still Missing 00:10:48
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We have breaking news.
Yesterday, we had an exclusive report that a man was detained in the U.S. Capitol in the very room where President Donald Trump was on the night of his State of the Union address.
We also reported that a man had been detained with a gun inside the Capitol the very same day that President Trump was inaugurated in the Capitol Rotunda.
We can now report, based on our exclusive report, that the Capitol Hill Police Chief, Thomas Manger, has resigned.
Adding to our report is the fact that Manger worked as a lobbyist from 2019 to 2020, getting over $2.3 billion from the Biden administration for his client L3.
Again, the breaking news, the chief of the Capitol Hill Police Department has resigned on the basis of our report yesterday.
It's kind of tomorrow's news today.
With the John F. Kennedy assassination files set to be released to the public, a memo written by the former president 10 days before his death has now resurfaced.
In the letter dated November 12, 1963, JFK allegedly requested that the CIA director brief him on all UFO intelligence.
The president's letter stressed the importance of knowing what objects in the skies are unknown in the events that the Soviets at the time mistake a UFO as an America vessel spying on the Russians' defenses.
The president's letter says, and I quote, when this data has been sorted out, I would like you to arrange a program of data sharing with NASA, the National Space Administration, where unknowns are a factor, the memo said.
This will help NASA in its mission in terms of their defensive responsibilities.
This document was obtained by William Lester, a man who claimed it was released to him under the Freedom of Information Act while researchering a book that he wrote in 2011.
The letter has not appeared anywhere else but in Lester's books, but we have confirmed its authenticity.
This letter from President Kennedy, or I should say memo, came during the Cold War and during the space race and almost two months before JFK proposed a joint lunar program with the Soviets because he believed more discoveries would be made if the two nations worked together.
The memo states that JFK instructed James Webb, who was then the administrator of NASA, to, quote, develop a program with the Soviet Union in joint space and lunar exploration.
Kennedy said in September 1963 that if the U.S. and the Soviets were to come together in space, they would need a new approach to the war.
That included, quote, a desire not to bury one's adversary, but to compete in a host of peaceful arenas in ideas, in production, and ultimately in service to all mankind.
So the question obviously is raised as to whether one of the reasons that President John F. Kennedy was murdered was because he was asking about UFOs.
In late January, of course, President Donald Trump signed an executive order authorizing the release of all of the remaining classified records regarding the 1963 shooting of Kennedy.
The problem with that is that the president specifically ordered the release of all of the materials that are contained in the JFK assassinations record archive that is maintained by the archivist.
As I have pointed out, however, there are documents pertaining to Kennedy's murder still in the possession of the Central Intelligence Agency, the FBI, the IRS, the Department of State, as well as the Department of Defense.
Until all of those documents are collected and released unclassified, I doubt we will know the truth about the murder of John F. Kennedy.
In fact, I'm not sure this will tell us anything other, quite likely, cementing the role of the Central Intelligence Agency in the murder of an American president.
Meanwhile, a radio talk show host in Delaware filed a letter with the U.S. District Court for Delaware requesting that the court unseal the search warrant applications and the affidavits in Hunter Biden's criminal case.
This happened last Friday.
The judge gave all parties, Hunter Biden and his attorneys, as well as the applicant in court, one week to follow their responses.
President Joe Biden's son was pardoned by his father back on December 1st after being convicted on federal gun and tax evasion charges, a move that you may remember was blasted by both Republicans and some Biden supporters.
Pursuant to that pardon, the judge terminated the case against Hunter Biden back on December 2nd.
The letter that was sent to a Delaware federal court was sent by Jake Smith, a talk show host at WGMD, a station that serves five counties in Delaware.
Smith wrote that he was making the request as a member of the public and press and as a broadcaster here in Delaware.
He asked the judge to unseal the search warrant applications and the affidavits corresponding to warrants in Hunter Biden's case.
Smith concluded his letter by asking the courts to unseal the requested records without redactions.
The goal here, obviously, is to determine whether Hunter Biden was given favorable treatment by the Biden Justice Department.
We'll be following this story and happy to say that WGMD is one of the many stations that carries this very show on the Red Apple Audio Network.
Six criminals who were pardoned with Joe Biden's auto pen, those pardons were signed in the city of Washington, D.C. on the same day that Joe Biden was actually on the island of St. Croix vacationing.
Obviously not possible for the president to be in two places.
Last week, Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey asked the Justice Department to investigate whether White House staffers exploited Joe Biden's cognitive decline and issued far-left orders at the end of his presidency without his knowledge.
That would make some sense when you look at the fact that Joe Biden in several cases pardoned hardened criminals who had shown remorse but been convicted of murder when their families had not even petitioned for such pardon.
Andrew Bailey, the Attorney General of Missouri, said, I am demanding the DOJ investigate whether President Trump's cognitive decline allowed unelected staff to push through radical policies without his knowing approval.
Bailey went on to say, if in fact Biden staffers were exploiting his mental decline, those orders signed by Joe Biden would be null and void.
That would mean, of course, that all of those preemptive pardons, Nancy Pelosi, for example, Adam Schiff, and many others, would be avoided.
Now, Bailey cited Joe Biden's decision to commute the death sentences of nearly 40 prisoners on death row.
The Heritage Foundation's oversight project uncovered this truth that many executive orders signed by former President Biden were authorized with identical AutoPen signatures.
This all raises the question, well, who was really running the country?
Stacey Abrams is back in the news.
You remember her.
She was the twice defeated candidate for governor of Georgia.
She has now, under oath, admitted that her nonprofit obscured a massive grant from the Biden administration.
This is part and parcel of the kind of information that Elon Musk is undercovering in his Doge project, where he is diving deeply into waste, fraud, and corruption.
This one, however, is extraordinary.
Abrams actually said on MSNBC that a $2 billion EPA grant was used to buy votes of Georgia by purchasing them new appliances.
All of this fraudulent use of U.S. taxpayer dollars.
So the EPA administrator Lee Zeldin of New York, former congressman, slammed Abrams this past Sunday, saying that Stacey Abrams-linked Powered Forward Communities received $2 billion in tax dollars in 2024 after reporting just $100 of revenue the very year before.
Leadership Thread 2024 00:06:37
These people were so unqualified for the grant agreement that the NGO was required to complete how to develop a budget training within 90 days.
That is what they allegedly got the $2 billion for.
Former President Joe Biden paved the way for this fraud with several major rules that had impacted home appliances during his presidency.
These rules, efficiency standards, with the alleged goal of saving consumers money and reducing pollution over the course of several years, were taken advantage of by Abrams, who used those programs to buy appliances and trade them for votes.
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This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
They went after a guy named Roger Stone, who's sitting in the office.
And I'll say this to Trevor Roger.
He's no baby.
And right now, he's cleaner than anybody in this place.
Now they treated him very unfairly.
Now, get in the zone.
It's the stone zone.
Here's Roger Stone.
And you're back in the Stone Zone.
Again, the breaking news based on our report on the Stone Zone yesterday, the chief of the Capitol Hill Police has resigned, Thomas Manger.
We revealed that a man had been apprehended twice in the Capitol, once on the very night that Donald Trump was in the Capitol to give his State of the Union address, and then on another occasion when he was there to be sworn in as president in the Capitol Rotunda.
We also revealed that the police chief worked as a lobbyist and got a two-plus billion dollar grant for one of his clients out of the Biden administration.
Now, if you think that the fraud that Stacey Abrams engaged in that we just spoke about, essentially buying appliances using a federal grant and then trading them for votes, here's an even bigger scandal.
A $375 billion slush fund was handed to John Podesta.
You remember him.
He was Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, who then went back into the Biden White House to try to work the levers of government to affect the 2024 election.
The Biden administration funneled at least $20 billion into environmental groups, some of which had only recently been founded.
In one case, former Vice President Kamala Harris handed over a check for nearly $7 billion to a Bethesda, Maryland-based group, Climate United, which does not appear in the IRS's charity databases and has no known federal filings.
The nonprofit fund had only been incorporated in Delaware on November 30th, 2020 33, according to public records examined by us here at the Stone Zone, five months before Harris handed over the cash in April 2024.
Quite extraordinary.
There is no publicly published accounting of how a climate-united fund plans to spend that $7 billion at the time.
Ethically speaking, it's very concerning, said Laurie Steyron, the CEO of Charity Watch, an independent charity watchdog group.
The huge $370 billion climate slush fund of taxpayer money paying these exorbitant sums of money was overseen again by John Podesta, the failed chairman of Hillary Clinton's 2016 bid for president.
Podesta, you may remember, was famously disgraced in the satanic spirit cooking scandal.
It is also interesting, a report I saw this morning, way back in 1988 when I visited New Hampshire with New York developer Donald Trump first sticking his toe in the water regarding a presidential bid, he specifically raised the question that our NATO allies are not and were not paying their fair share for their own defense.
Now, President Trump has induced the European nations to spend $800 billion on their own defense.
Even today, we have given $200 billion more for the war in Ukraine than any of the NATO member nations.
Thanks to the negotiating America First positions of Donald Trump, the European Union has announced that it will now spend an extra $800 billion of their own money for the defense of their own region.
That announcement came after President Trump halted U.S. military raid aid to Ukraine.
European leaders held emergency talks in Brussels before agreeing on this massive increase in defense spending.
Ukraine Defense Spending 00:15:37
The French president, Emmanuel Macron, said, the only imperial power I see today in Europe is Russia, and called Putin an imperialist who seeks to rewrite history.
Only two days ago, President Donald Trump said that if the Russians did not come to the peace talk tables with Ukraine, that he would hit them with sanctions and other punitive action.
It is absolutely clear that the president understands that it takes two to tango and that he is committed to a peace process.
This idea that he is in the pocket of Putin is disproved by his recent threats to the Russians that they must come to the bargaining cable.
When we come back, Colonel John Mills joins us to talk about the situation in Syria and more.
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Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
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Joining me now is Colonel John Mills.
He's the former director of cybersecurity policy, strategy, and international affairs at the U.S. Department of Defense.
He has served his country in four eras, the Cold War, during the peace dividend, the war on terror, and now today, the world in chaos.
Colonel Mills is a senior fellow at the Center for Security Policy, and he writes a very, very lively column at Substack.
I urge you to check that out.
Colonel Mills, thank you for joining us.
Roger, just always an honor to be on the show with you.
Thank you.
So I saw a great video last night, almost 10 years ago.
Donald Trump, in an interview, expressed a concern about Syria, saying that although he did not love Assad in every regard, that he feared that if Assad were to be toppled in Syria, what would come afterwards would be much, much worse.
Tulsi Gabbard, who is now the Director of National Intelligence, then a Democrat congresswoman, expressed the same concern.
She visited Assad, as did, by the way, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
And at the time, she expressed concern about the potential mass slaughter of Christians if Islamic extremists were allowed to retake control of the country.
Now, for anybody who can see, that is precisely what has happened.
The footage that we're seeing of video and reports from Syria, very reminiscent of the mass slaughter in Libya, assess for us what is going on in the ground today in Syria.
Colonel Mills.
Well, Roger, it's horrible.
This is what this has been a multi-faction, multi-party civil war.
It is an absolute mess.
And one of the reasons we really should not have gotten involved, the, yeah, Assad was a thug.
And I'm not in any way advocating for him, but we really, the Biden team really created this mess.
They were just obsessed with toppling Assad.
And then what?
But we've seen this before.
They were obsessed with toppling Muammar Gaddafi in Libya.
They were obsessed with the Arab Spring.
And then what?
It is just, it's an absolute mess and violence and bloodshed.
There's a number of minority groups.
And Assad was part of the Alawites, are a minority group in the Islamic faith.
But they are getting slaughtered right now.
They were able to take control.
His father was able to take control, but now they are being very roughly treated and executed on a large scale.
But this is what happens.
They're obsessed.
The Obama-Biden team, the globalists, are obsessed with getting involved.
And then what?
Yeah, it is interesting.
We seem to be moving closer to the possibility of peace.
The Ukrainians, I think hours ago, agreed to a ceasefire.
I believe that report is correct.
I saw it just before we began the show.
President Trump putting pressure on the Russians last week, saying that if they did not come to the table, that he would resort to sanctions and worse, said that on his Truth social posting.
So much for the idea that he is in bed with Putin.
What do you think our prospects are of a negotiated settlement or at least a negotiated ceasefire at this point?
Well, peace making 101 is you can't do it unless both sides are interested in ceasing a conflict.
I think we might be at that point.
I think Zelensky, I think, overplayed his hand.
I think he was really, this was almost a January 6-like setup when he came to the White House.
It didn't turn out well for Zelensky and all the folks who put him up to this.
But I think we're at the point.
And Zelensky went back, tried to make amends for the mess he had made in the White House.
And I think he's ready.
Getting back immediately large swaths of land is just that's not a starting point.
And their Kursk salient seems to be under duress and even shrinking with the cutoff of aid to the Ukrainians.
So I think he's ready to settle down and talk peace.
It appears that way.
Did you see reports that said that former Biden administration officials, including Anthony Blinken, former Assistant Secretary Victoria Newland, who is herself,
I think, the architect of the disaster that we call Ukraine, also Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman and Congressman, pardon me, Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut, all met prior to his meeting with the president, all met with Zelensky and urged him not to take the mineral deal that the president had on the table or any peace deal.
Now, by my reading, I think that that is a violation of the Logan Act.
You can only have one foreign policy.
Private citizens cannot conduct foreign policy.
And foreign policy is defined as meeting and talking with foreign leaders.
Do you agree with me that this is if an investigation proved that they did indeed meet with either as a group or individually or speak with Zelensky prior to his meeting with Trump, that they have seriously violated the law and they ought to be prosecuted?
Yeah, well, the Logan Act is just one of those laws that is only invoked or has meaning if it's being used against somebody with an R behind their name.
I mean, let's just get real on this.
Yeah, I think we should absolutely, the whirlwind of activity by the just the lightning movement of the different Trump appointees and the departments and agencies, I think Pam Bonte should make this a priority and give it as a task or to Kash Patel to investigate.
Because this is just absolutely sick.
They played this game against General Flynn, who was not violating the Logan Act.
He actually was the incoming National Security Advisor.
Reasonable for him to have some engagements with foreign powers.
And here they are just, I mean, we got a throne, Eric Ciarmella, one of the just thugs of the whole coup when he was inside CIA.
Now he was an advisor to Ukraine, and he was getting paid with taxpayer dollars.
So another variation of the laundering campaign.
So, absolutely, every one of these needs to be investigated.
And of course, he was, as we now know, the so-called whistleblower who came forward or was recruited by Adam Schiff to pull together the Ukrainian impeachment hoax.
You wonder whether there's going to be any consequences for these people.
I just pulled up President Trump's exact posting on True Social.
He says, based on the fact that Russia is absolutely pounding Ukraine on the battlefield right now, I'm strongly considering large-scale banking sanctions, sanctions, and tariffs on Russia until a ceasefire and final settlement agreement on peace is reached.
To Russia and Ukraine, I say, get to the table right now before it's too late.
So much for the idea that Donald Trump is somehow controlled by Vladimir Putin.
You are an expert on cybersecurity.
A U.S. tanker was on fire in the North Sea, one of only 10 that supports the Department of Defense.
I think this shows an extraordinarily weak maritime position.
You wrote about this.
Was this a cyber attack?
Well, I think that is absolutely something that has to stay on the table, just like the Baltimore Bridge.
Maritime cybersecurity is a very weak and nascent area.
And we're also weak and nascent in maritime.
You know, we're the largest economy in the world, have the smallest merchant fleet in the world.
This doesn't make any sense.
We have no representation at the key UN body, the International Maritime Organization, which is totally bat guano crazy on woke issues.
But cybersecurity is a very, it's a very nascent issue and is just not being addressed.
But let's go back to the Evergreen ship that decided to take a hard left turn and got stuck in the Suez Canal.
You think I just came out of nowhere?
Our folks don't even know how to look for indicators of cyber intrusion in these different maritime systems.
So, you know, the Boston, or excuse me, the Baltimore Bridge episode of last year, you know, within seconds, you had the FBI typically saying no foreign involvement.
How do you even know within 30 seconds of such a catastrophe whether there's a four?
These are absolutely reasonable concerns.
You can push malware through radio frequency to download onto a ship.
And a ship, one of the basic systems that is used that has been shown it can be spoofed over and over again is AIS, the automatic identification system, which is essentially the equivalent of ADS-B for aircraft, which we now know there was issues with ADS-B on the air crash in Washington, D.C.
But yeah, I mean, who look, the Portuguese tanker T-boned and ran at speed into a moored, we were at, the American tanker was at, it was at anchor.
And the Portuguese tanker ran right into it, T-boned.
And whether it did not appear, visibility did not appear to have been an issue.
I think it's absolutely reasonable to be concerned.
And my understanding is that the new office in the White House is absolutely keeping this on the table in the investigation.
Folks, if you're just tuning in, we're talking to Colonel John Mills.
He is the former Director of Cybersecurity Policy Strategy and International Affairs for the U.S. Department of Defense.
He's also a senior fellow at the Center for Security Policy.
We've been talking about the situation in Ukraine.
We've been talking about our cyber security.
And when we come back, we're going to continue this discussion.
Colonel Mills believes that our Navy needs a lot more ships by 2030.
I'm going to ask him to tell us why and what can be done to bolster the strength of our Navy.
So whatever you do, don't go away.
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Civilian Infrastructure Focus 00:06:33
He's no baby.
And right now he's cleaner than anybody in this place.
Now, as they treated him very unfairly.
Now, get him a zone.
It's the stone zone.
Here's Roger Stone.
And we're back with Colonel John Mills.
Colonel John Mills is a national security professional.
He is, as I say, the former Director of Cybersecurity, Policy, Strategy, and International Affairs for the U.S. Department of Defense, currently a senior fellow at the Center for Security Policy.
And again, he has a very lively and informative column at Substack.
I urge you to check that out.
Colonel Mills, you have said that our U.S. Navy needs 355 new ships by 2030.
Why do we need this?
And do you think we're going to achieve that goal?
Okay.
Yeah, the exact number has been elusive for the last 10 years.
It's in the Navy staff, it's an organization called N9 that's supposed to come up with the correct number.
This spreadsheet is just, I mean, this is a bit harder to do than find out the reason behind Vince Foster's passing.
I mean, this has just been, this number has been all over the map.
And just a litany of Navy captains, Navy admirals have failed to come up with a consistent number.
But the reality is, our industrial base is an absolute whisper of what it used to be.
And so we have essentially the smallest fleet since before the mid-1930s.
And frankly, we just don't have the capacity to even meet 355, 400, 455, whatever the correct number is.
We do have a ship building office now for the president in the White House.
I believe it's a retired Navy captain, Dr. Goes by Jimmy Hendricks, is the leader, very qualified, very competent, a great individual.
But we have a gaping canyon between the size today and just even this small growth that we want to make.
Why?
Because our shipyard capacity is just atrophied to an incredible level.
So what is this going to take?
I think it takes a comprehensive maritime strategy.
First and foremost, it actually focuses on the civilian size.
Because the reason we were able to create the Arsenal Democracy in World War II was because we had a pretty robust manufacturing capacity in the United States.
We could just pivot over.
We don't have that anymore because of decades of globalism.
We have just eviscerated.
And yes, it's making a comeback.
Yes, that's a priority of President Trump and Dr. Navarro, but we're going to have to think things differently.
But we're going to have to focus on the civilian side and the civilian infrastructure.
We're going to have to do things like targeted capital gains tax cuts, targeted corporate tax cuts.
We're going to have to do things like, you know, be careful about government money, but this is one where we create what are called government-owned contractor-operated yards where we do use government money to create absolutely brand new sparkling facilities, but then we're going to have contractors operate them.
And that's actually been a very good model despite the dysfunction of the Department of Defense in many other ways.
We're going to have to leverage key foreign partners such as South Korea, the world's largest shipbuilder, and Taiwan.
And if it means they make parts of our ships and then they are brought over here on what are called float-on, float-off vessels, then we do that.
It's just like the Japanese auto industry saved America in the 70s.
The big three were an absolute mess, producing everything the customer didn't want and doing it very inefficiently.
The Japanese came in and totally turned around the American car system.
We may have to do that, but also we have to focus on new types of approaches to the defense industrial base, not the classic big companies that have evolved because they can accept and survive in the absolute dysfunction of the Department of Defense acquisition process.
We're going to have to bring in new companies that actually innovate.
And I will shout out one, Anderill is a model for this.
They make incredible defense products.
And then if the government wants them, the government can go and get them.
But they don't sit there and they have not focused on hovering over and fawning over the Department of Defense in the current dysfunctional process and trying to get the government to pay them to develop something that they want in the dysfunctional process.
We're going to have to think differently on this buildup.
All right.
I'm afraid we're going to have to leave it there.
I want to thank our guest, Colonel John Mills.
I urge you to check out his lively writing at substack.com.
And thank you, Colonel Mills, for joining us in the Stone Zone.
Again, the breaking news today: the police chief of the Capitol Hill Police resigned after it was revealed here on the Stone Zone that on two occasions, both during the inauguration and during the State of the Union, a man was apprehended with a gun inside the Capitol.
The Capitol Hill Police Chief Thomas Meaning has resigned.
We thank you again for joining us in the Stone Zone, where we always try to bring you the inside story on what's happening in our nation's capital and across the country.
Until the next time, God bless you and Godspeed.
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