The StoneZONE - Roger Stone - The Stone Zone | 03-06-25
Aired: 2025-03-07
Duration: 41:38


=== Nixon's Vision for America (11:25) ===

[00:00:00]  Rural Americans deserve access to the best of what our nation has to offer, especially health care.
[00:00:06]  Across every state and every community, America's rural hospitals are the first line of defense, protecting our families, neighbors, and loved ones.
[00:00:15]  No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
[00:00:18]  They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
[00:00:23]  Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
[00:00:36]  Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
[00:00:44]  Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
[00:00:46]  They employ our neighbors and keep our families healthy.
[00:00:49]  But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
[00:00:53]  Tell Congress, protect patient care to keep America strong.
[00:00:57]  Don't cut rule health care.
[00:01:10]  This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
[00:01:14]  People love him and respect him.
[00:01:15]  Roger Stone.
[00:01:17]  Now, get him a zone.
[00:01:18]  It's the Stone Zone.
[00:01:20]  Here's Roger Stone.
[00:01:26]  Welcome.
[00:01:28]  I'm Roger Stone, and you are entering the Stone Zone.
[00:01:32]  If you're interested in American politics, this is the place to be.
[00:01:38]  A massive presidential political comeback that most mainstream pundits thought was impossible.
[00:01:44]  A president with deep distrust of D.C. bureaucrats and the liberal media.
[00:01:50]  A president trying to extract America from a costly war, trying to reinvigorate the nation with new tariffs on foreign competitors.
[00:01:58]  Sounds like Donald Trump, right?
[00:02:00]  No, but the president I'm describing is Richard Milhouse Nixon.
[00:02:05]  When Nixon took office in 1969, it became after 1960 loss to JFK by a whisker and after he had lost a disastrous 1962 race for governor of California.
[00:02:23]  Nixon, like Trump, distrusted DC, distrusted the media, and wanted to get America out of Vietnam.
[00:02:30]  And on August 15th, 1971, he slapped a 10% tariff on all imported goods.
[00:02:39]  Whether Nixon, pardon me, whether Trump is conspicuously borrowing from Nixon's playbook or not, the parallels are all there.
[00:02:46]  I see them.
[00:02:47]  He's hitting Canada, Mexico, and China with tariffs, pausing military aid to Ukraine, and defying the DC and media establishments.
[00:02:57]  And like Nixon, he's trying to end a sticky war.
[00:03:01]  Trump, like Nixon, sees the extreme costs both in Ukraine and allowing a massive trade deficit to go unrectified.
[00:03:09]  Nixon actually predicted this war in Ukraine, as Luke Nickner wrote recently, the historian.
[00:03:19]  Nixon based his foreign policy on the balance of power and believed in the most responsible participation by our foreign friends in our own defense.
[00:03:31]  Few realize that Nixon and then Reagan, Nixon and Trump, pardon me, actually corresponded regularly in the 1980s and early 1990s.
[00:03:41]  It's interesting, they met in George Steinbrenner's box when they were both invited to Yankee Stadium on opening day.
[00:03:49]  The very next day, President Nixon said to me, well, I met your man.
[00:03:54]  I said, well, sir, what did you think?
[00:03:56]  I'm telling you, that guy, if he ever gets into politics, he could go all the way.
[00:04:02]  Then in December, days later, that was 1987, right after their encounter at Yankee Stadium, Nixon wrote Trump a letter saying that Pat Nixon had seen Trump on the Phil Donahue talk show.
[00:04:17]  And quote, as you can imagine, Nixon wrote, she's an expert on politics and she predicts whenever you decide to run for office, you will be the winner.
[00:04:27]  And I agree, Nixon wrote.
[00:04:31]  In 1993, on the occasion of President Nixon's 80th birthday, Trump told Nixon, you are a great man, and I have had and always will have the utmost respect for you and admiration.
[00:04:44]  I'm proud to know you.
[00:04:45]  In this second administration, President Trump is finishing the job that President Nixon didn't have a chance to do.
[00:04:54]  In the meantime, Hunter Biden has decided to ask a judge to toss his own laptop lawsuit, claiming he's millions in debt.
[00:05:03]  Hunter Biden has asked a judge to dismiss his own lawsuit against Garrett Ziegler, the head of Marco Polo USA, a nonprofit that is committed to publishing with the annotated version of Hunter Biden's laptop.
[00:05:24]  Garrett Ziegler is the hard-charging nephew of Nixon White House press secretary Ron Ziegler, and he worked in the Trump White House.
[00:05:34]  He published the entire volume, which you can get by going to marcopolousa.org.
[00:05:42]  Court filings now show that Joe Biden is out of the White House.
[00:05:46]  No one is buying Hunter's extraordinarily expensive paintings.
[00:05:51]  I'm glad to see this lawsuit has been dismissed or, pardon me, withdrawn because Hunter Biden's lawyers were trying to subpoena me to find out what I knew about the laptop.
[00:06:04]  When everything I knew about the laptop, I read it either in the New York Post or the terrific reporting of Miranda Devine or Breitbart News.
[00:06:15]  It is incredible that they harassed me with a subpoena about which I know nothing.
[00:06:22]  Court filings showed that the two or three years prior to December 2023, Hunter Biden sold 27 pieces of art at an average price of $54,000.
[00:06:34]  But since then, he has only sold one piece of art, Biden complained in his filing.
[00:06:40]  Hunter has suffered a significant downturn in his income and his significant debt in the millions of dollars range, as attorneys lawyers argued, claiming that his financial troubles were exacerbated by the prolific Pacific Palisades wildfires in January.
[00:06:58]  Like many others in that situation, I've had difficulty finding a new permanent place to live, Biden claimed.
[00:07:06]  What of the 51 intelligence officers, current and former, who co-signed the letter insisting that Hunter Biden's laptop was most likely Russian disinformation, when they knew, of course, that it wasn't.
[00:07:21]  It was completely real, authentic, and genuine.
[00:07:26]  Polls showed that 17% of voters would have swung from Biden to Trump had they known that.
[00:07:34]  It was a lie then.
[00:07:36]  It was a lie now, folks.
[00:07:37]  Last week, it was February 20th, 2025.
[00:07:41]  UPI helpfully noted that it was four years ago that day that I was sentenced to 40 months in prison based on my conviction in the Soviet-style show trial that I was subjected to in Washington, D.C. in 2020.
[00:07:56]  complete with a rigged jury, a corrupt jury for a woman, and a hateful anti-Trump judge.
[00:08:04]  Needless to say, UPI neglected to mention that President Donald Trump not only commuted my sentence, but on December 23rd, 2020, issued me a full and unconditional presidential pardon.
[00:08:18]  But don't look for that fact on the internet, folks.
[00:08:21]  It's buried.
[00:08:22]  Most strikingly, UPI failed to note that after my trial, a lawsuit brought by the liberal outfit BuzzFeed of all people against the Department of Justice forced the department to finally release the long-hidden, long-redacted final report of special counsel Robert Mueller.
[00:08:44]  The entire section of his report on Roger Stone had been redacted when released and never given to me either by the court.
[00:08:52]  But once we saw the full report, we can see that even Mueller could not sugarcoat the fact that he found no evidence of Russian collusion, Wikileaks collaboration, or any other crime.
[00:09:05]  In fact, Mueller's final full report says that there was, quote, no factual basis to prosecute me for Russian collusion, collaboration with Wikileaks.
[00:09:16]  And even though they admitted they had found no evidence thereof, they also said had they found such evidence, they had concluded that it would not have been a crime, but would have been First Amendment-protected political activity.
[00:09:31]  I was indicted on these clever and convoluted process charges in order to pressure me to testify falsely against President Donald Trump, which I, of course, refused to do.
[00:09:44]  Judge Amy Berman Jackson, who presided over my trial, withheld this exculpatory evidence at the trial.
[00:09:54]  We specifically asked the judge for Mueller's unredacted report, and she said she would read it in her chambers and give us the portions that were relevant to our defense and our trial.
[00:10:06]  Needless to say, she didn't give us the part that the Department of Justice released, and they released it on November 3rd, 2020.
[00:10:16]  Why, wait a minute, that's Election Day, the busiest media day of the year.
[00:10:22]  If you don't want something to get any media coverage, that's the time to drop it.
[00:10:27]  Mueller's dirty cops concluded in their report that I had done nothing wrong, so they cooked up these charges of lying under oath in my voluntary testimony to the Congress, when in fact I did make misstatements, but none of them were relevant or material.
[00:10:46]  They hid no underlying crime because there was no crime to hid.
[00:10:51]  The whole thing was a hoax.
[00:10:53]  I was convicted of lying to Congress when I had no motive to lie.
[00:10:58]  But one thing about the left, you see it right now.
[00:11:02]  Doesn't matter how discredited, debunked, or disproved any of their crazy left-wing conspiracy theories like the Russian collusion hoax are, wait a few weeks and they'll be back to recycle it.
[00:11:15]  You see them doing it right now with Donald Trump.
[00:11:17]  Oh, he's controlled by Putin.
[00:11:19]  No, he's trying to end an expensive and pointless war, and he is committed to do it.

=== Democrats Recycled (07:16) ===

[00:11:26]  He ran as the candidate of peace, and he is a deal maker, but it takes two to tango.
[00:11:32]  I'm convinced Donald Trump can get Putin to the table.
[00:11:34]  No, Putin doesn't control him.
[00:11:36]  Nobody controls Donald Trump.
[00:11:38]  Now, if he can get Zelensky to the table and the Europeans to agree to that, he can get us peace.
[00:11:45]  Now, if he gets us peace, will he get the Nobel Peace Prize?
[00:11:49]  They gave it to Barack Obama when he did nothing to earn it that I could see.
[00:11:54]  I think he dropped more bombs and probably caused more havoc on the world stage in terms of military than any recent president.
[00:12:04]  But they gave him a Nobel Peace Prize.
[00:12:06]  Will they give Donald Trump the Nobel Peace Prize?
[00:12:10]  I think if he pulls this off, he more than deserves it.
[00:12:14]  Watching him the other night, I could not help but marvel at the greatest single comeback in American political history.
[00:12:24]  And I'm convinced that we're going to a golden age, an unprecedented age of peace, prosperity, security, justice, and law and order.
[00:12:34]  Keep your seats buckled.
[00:12:36]  You're in the stone zone.
[00:12:38]  And we'll be back with more political analysis and Eduardo Bolsonaro, the son of former Brazil President Bolsonaro, who they're trying to lock up.
[00:12:49]  This is the stone zone with Roger Stone.
[00:12:52]  Not just stepping stone.
[00:12:54]  The stone zone zone.
[00:12:56]  Not just stepping stone.
[00:13:02]  Rural Americans deserve access to the best our nation has to offer, especially when it comes to health care.
[00:13:08]  Across every state and every community, America's rural hospitals are the first line of defense, protecting our families, neighbors, and loved ones.
[00:13:16]  No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
[00:13:19]  They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
[00:13:24]  Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
[00:13:36]  Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
[00:13:43]  Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
[00:13:45]  They employ our neighbors and keep our families health.
[00:13:48]  But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
[00:13:51]  Tell Congress, protect patient care to keep America strong.
[00:13:56]  Don't cut rural health care.
[00:14:11]  This is the stone zone.
[00:14:14]  Give us all.
[00:14:15]  It's the stone zone.
[00:14:17]  Here's Roger Stone.
[00:14:21]  And we're back.
[00:14:24]  President Trump gave his first address to Congress after being re-elected to his second term.
[00:14:29]  And while the Democrat theatrics were all too predictable, I thought it was one of Trump's greatest speeches.
[00:14:35]  I told him so in a text, and he responded by saying, it felt pretty good up there.
[00:14:40]  Democrats held up signs with trite clichés like, this is not normal, Musk steals, and false throughout Trump's speech.
[00:14:49]  It was very childish.
[00:14:50]  Then Congressman Al Green, no, not the singer, the ponytailed congressman from Texas, a far-left lawmaker, caused a scene and had to be ushered out of the chamber as he swung his cane like a 2 a.m. homeless why now outside a Houston liquor store.
[00:15:08]  Now, Congressman Green says that he is drafting his new articles of impeachment.
[00:15:14]  But Congressman Green introduced his first articles of impeachment against Donald Trump the day after he was sworn in in 2017.
[00:15:24]  So I would say this is Al Green's greatest hit.
[00:15:28]  Rather than showing their moral high ground, the Democrats just came off like immature sore losers who wouldn't even applaud when they were shown a 13-year-old boy who is dying of cancer or has fought cancer, I should say.
[00:15:51]  A poll conducted after the speech showed only 20% of respondents thought Representative Green was out of line.
[00:16:02]  Pardon me, 80% said he was not, that he was out of line, whereas only 26 said that he wasn't.
[00:16:10]  Meanwhile, a survey conducted by CBS News showed that 76% of those who were watching thought they approved of the president's address.
[00:16:22]  60% of respondents said they believe Trump spends a lot of time speaking on issues that matter to the American people.
[00:16:32]  68% in that same poll said Trump's words left them feeling hopeful.
[00:16:39]  The public response shows that Trump's agenda now has the mandate to, I would say, put the support of the American people fully behind it.
[00:16:50]  And Trump has risen above all the divisiveness promoted by his enemies in the fake news media and their allies in the Democratic Party, not to mention the permanent government establishment.
[00:17:03]  Trump has become normalized while the Democrats are going in the opposite direction.
[00:17:08]  The Democrats are too deep in with the woke left.
[00:17:11]  The old Democrat Party, the party of John F. Kennedy, the party of Harry Truman, the party that supported capitalism and free enterprise and religion.
[00:17:22]  Sure, they wanted to spend a bit more and tax a bit more, but they still believed in democracy.
[00:17:28]  That Democrat Party no longer exists.
[00:17:31]  It has been hijacked by a Marxist woke left.
[00:17:37]  And they're going to have a hard time regaining the middle ground.
[00:17:41]  See, under Donald Trump, he hijacked the Republican Party, so it is no longer the party of the country clubs, no longer the party of the Wall Street elite, no longer the party of big money and the corporate interests.
[00:17:55]  Under Donald Trump, the Republican Party has returned to being the party of blue-collar working-class Americans.
[00:18:02]  It has returned to being the party of the family, returned to be the party of the middle class, and it has returned to be the party of common sense.
[00:18:13]  Notice that theme throughout the president's entire speech, common sense.
[00:18:18]  That's because common sense Democrats like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard and Governor Rod Blagojevich have joined the America First Crusade of President Donald Trump.
[00:18:34]  It's a realignment, folks.
[00:18:36]  Stop thinking in terms of Republicans and Democrats.
[00:18:38]  Think in terms of insiders and outsiders.

=== Eduardo Bolsonaro's Election Threat (15:42) ===

[00:18:42]  Think in the terms of the difference between globalists and those who are nationalists in that they believe in America and their party.
[00:18:50]  In a moment, we're going to talk to Jer Bolsonaro.
[00:18:54]  He is a member of the parliament.
[00:18:57]  He's actually a member of the Chamber of Deputies in his home country of Brazil.
[00:19:04]  His father is a former president who has been subjected to the same kind of lawfare that Donald Trump was subjected to.
[00:19:13]  And now there are reports that they are seeking to revoke his father's ability to travel and may be on the verge of arresting him.
[00:19:23]  We'll be right back with Jer Bolsonaro.
[00:19:26]  are here in the stone zone is the stone zone with roger stone Not just stepping stone.
[00:19:50]  The stone zone zone.
[00:20:09]  is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
[00:20:13]  They went after a guy named Roger Stone who's sitting in the office.
[00:20:16]  And I'll say this to Trudeau Roger.
[00:20:18]  He's no baby.
[00:20:19]  And right now he's cleaner than anybody in this place.
[00:20:22]  Now, as they treated him very unfairly.
[00:20:25]  Now, give him a zone.
[00:20:27]  It's the stone zone.
[00:20:29]  Here's Roger Stone.
[00:20:34]  The left-wing Supreme Court of Brazil is attempting to seize the passport of Jair Bolsonaro, who is an elected member of the Chamber of Deputies, has been since 2015.
[00:20:49]  He's affiliated with the Social Liberal Party.
[00:20:52]  In 2018, he was re-elected to a second term as a federal deputy, having received the most votes of any lawmaker in Brazilian history.
[00:21:03]  But the left-wing Supreme Court is seeking to lift his passport, alleging that he is guilty of committing crimes against sovereignty, specifically criticizing the left-wing Supreme Court.
[00:21:19]  To put this in some perspective, you need to understand that Eduardo Bolsonaro's father, Jair Bolsonaro, lost the Brazilian presidential election in 2022.
[00:21:30]  In the first round, which was October 2nd, 2022, he received 53.20% of the vote, while Luis Ignacio Lula de Silva received 48.43%.
[00:21:45]  Silva, however, had been convicted for corruption and was not eligible to run for president, except for the same left-wing, politicized Supreme Court now trying to lift the passport of Eduardo Bolsonaro, ruled that Lula could run again.
[00:22:06]  In an election that was marked with widespread fraud, Lula defeated Bolsonaro in the second round, 49.10% to Bolsonaro to 50.90% for Lula.
[00:22:24]  Does this sound familiar?
[00:22:25]  Does this sound like what happened in the United States in 2020?
[00:22:29]  Anyway, joining us now to talk about what has happened and where we go from here is Eduardo Bolsonaro, son of the former president, but a distinguished statesman in his own right serving in the Chamber of Deputies since 2015.
[00:22:47]  Eduardo, welcome to the Stone Zone.
[00:22:51]  Thank you very much, Roger.
[00:22:53]  I'm very happy to be at the Roger Stone Show, and I'm open for all kinds of questions.
[00:22:59]  I have no doubt that we have the truth on our side, and we are talking from an audience that is familiar with the lawfare.
[00:23:07]  Just the fact that the Supreme Court ruled that Lula, who had been convicted of very serious corruption and therefore was ineligible to run, that they would change the law to make him eligible to run, that is in itself an outrage.
[00:23:23]  But the election itself was marked by a number of anomalies and irregularities.
[00:23:33]  For example, there was incredible vulnerability in the electronic voting machines.
[00:23:39]  The media, the open-minded media, reported that Brazil's electronic voting machines were susceptible to tampering and full adequate security measures were never put in place.
[00:23:55]  There were also other irregularities regarding printed votes.
[00:24:01]  Many, many problems.
[00:24:03]  Talk to us about the flaws in the 2020 election.
[00:24:08]  or the 2022 election, pardon me.
[00:24:11]  Yeah, it's the method is different.
[00:24:17]  But the fraud is pretty clear to everybody.
[00:24:21]  It's just pretty much what happened in the United States in the previous election, 2020, when you had all of those mailing votes and ID problems in the United States, people that were dead voting and all of that.
[00:24:38]  In Brazil, what happened is the system that we use to vote is fully electronic.
[00:24:44]  So in Brazil, you go to a place, you dial the number of your candidate in a machine, then you play for God that in Brasilia, in the capital of Brazil, the electoral courts, the superior electoral court, they are going to count that properly.
[00:24:58]  But the fact is, before the election, the Congress, we tried to approve the printed vote bill, which means that we should have a way to recount or in case of suspicions, to do a proper audit to see if the electronic votes match with the paper votes.
[00:25:19]  I don't think this is a threat for democracy, but anyway, the president of the electoral court, which is also a justice of the Supreme Court, his name is Luis Roberto Bajoso.
[00:25:29]  In 2021, he did go to the Congress and talked with 11 presidents of political parties and changed their minds.
[00:25:39]  So a bill that was going easily to be approved then was disapproved.
[00:25:47]  This is only one chapter of the fight that we have to bring more transparency and integrity to our election.
[00:25:55]  But to finish this answer, I only would like to highlight that United States as the number one country in the world, when you talk about democracy and freedom, you should not recognize elections where you do not have a proper way to recount the votes or a proper audit, you know, or at least let the opposition to run.
[00:26:17]  Because my father cannot run for the elections until 2030.
[00:26:22]  We have a hope to overturn that in the electoral court.
[00:26:26]  But look for Venezuela.
[00:26:27]  Maria Curinamachado is the same thing.
[00:26:30]  The electoral court of Venezuela didn't allow her to run.
[00:26:35]  And this is not a democracy for sure.
[00:26:38]  Yeah, they have no paper trail, which was opposed.
[00:26:43]  There was substantial evidence that the electronic voting machines were hacked.
[00:26:50]  The geographic pattern was very interesting.
[00:26:55]  They loaded up a giant lead in the province where the capital is, but in the other areas of the state, Bolsonaro won, as I recall.
[00:27:09]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:27:10]  And if you look, Roger, even nowadays, if you go to social media, Jerry Bolsonaro, my father, he's not a president anymore.
[00:27:17]  And he cannot run until 2030 for two reasons.
[00:27:22]  First, because he met 40 ambassadors, and during a press conference, he criticized our electoral process, which is a thing that he's doing for the last, I don't know, 15 years, even when he was congressman.
[00:27:35]  And the second reason that my father cannot run is because after the military parade of our Independence Day in 2022, after that, he crossed the street, he went to a square and did a speech for almost 1 million people that were waiting, the President Bolsonaro, to do that.
[00:27:55]  And the electoral court, they considered this fact as abuse of a political power.
[00:28:01]  So it's not about corrupt.
[00:28:04]  We are not in the same occasion of Lula da Silva.
[00:28:06]  Lula was convicted because of laundering money and corruption.
[00:28:10]  And he had a first trial, a second trial, a third trial.
[00:28:15]  And then when the case went to the Supreme Court, where the most part of the 11 justices of the Supreme Court in Brazil were appointed by Lula da Silva and his colleague from the former president, Jim Joseph, because both are from the semi-party, when his case went to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court said, well, you know, Lula didn't, he wasn't sued in the right city.
[00:28:41]  He should be sued in other cities.
[00:28:44]  So we need to come back from the ground all of the case of Lula da Silva.
[00:28:50]  So it's not that he's innocent, but his process got back again from the ground.
[00:28:55]  So he had a chance to run in the 2022 election.
[00:29:00]  It was a trick inside of the Supreme Court.
[00:29:03]  But Bolsonaro, if you look at him on social media, even nowadays, that again, he's not a president.
[00:29:08]  He cannot run for president.
[00:29:11]  But everywhere he goes, every street, every bakery, every restaurant, beaches, doesn't matter, he goes and appear, he show up surprisingly, and everybody wants to take pictures of him.
[00:29:23]  And he's leading the pool, Roger.
[00:29:25]  He's leading the pools.
[00:29:27]  That's why the establishment of Brazil is really hard working to avoid him, to run on the next year election, because the Brazilian establishment learned with the United States establishment that they cannot give the opportunity for the one who is leading the pools to run for president.
[00:29:48]  Because if it happens, maybe we are going to be back in Brazil with the Trump of the Tropics, Jerry Bolsonaro.
[00:29:56]  So here's my first question for you.
[00:29:58]  It really is, how intensive is the censorship in the country?
[00:30:06]  In other words, one of our horrific problems in 2020 was the absolute tsunami of censorship and the cancellation of anyone who was a supporter of Donald Trump, anyone who questioned Hunter Biden's laptop or the Russian collusion hoax or the facts regarding the COVID-19 pandemic.
[00:30:33]  How extensive is censorship today in Brazil?
[00:30:39]  It's very, very sensitive.
[00:30:40]  All the problems that we had in the United States, we had in Brazil when talking about the pandemics.
[00:30:46]  So words like vaccine or hydroxychloroquine, invermectin, or all of these, it was forbidden in Brazil.
[00:30:54]  All the social media, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, all of that, they shut you down, they block your profile, they do whatever to censor you.
[00:31:04]  But the main problem that we had in Brazil come after that, because the censorship became something normal.
[00:31:10]  So in 2022 elections, our electoral court was chaired by the Supreme Court Justice Alejandro Gimorais.
[00:31:19]  He's the one who is fighting against Elon Musk.
[00:31:21]  Alejandro de Morais, he was the president of the electoral court, and he gave to him very special and unique powers to do whatever he wants in the social media.
[00:31:32]  Doesn't matter what says the Attorney General or any other authority in Brazil.
[00:31:37]  So what we had in Brazil, we now know that about 100 right-wing profiles were shut down at that time during the electoral period of 2022.
[00:31:52]  And we only know that because Elon Musk bought Twitter right during the Brazilian elections of 2022.
[00:32:01]  And when Elan started to fight against Alejandris Morais, the chairman of the Justice Committee, Representative Gene Jordan, he asked Elon to bring to his committee all of the emails that Twitter changed with the electoral court in the Supreme Court of Brazil in 2022.
[00:32:24]  And then they made a report of more than 400 pages showing how was this communication.
[00:32:31]  And in this report, you can see Alejandris Morais sending emails to Twitter with orders to shut down a lot of users, a lot of right-wing users in Twitter and do not let them know that this order was coming from a justice of the Supreme Court.
[00:32:53]  So in fact, in Brazil, we had our Tucker Carlson was shut down.
[00:32:57]  We had Fox News shut it down, you know, our 01.
[00:33:02]  It was really unfair, despite you believe or not, in our machines, in our voting system.
[00:33:09]  So let me stop you there.
[00:33:12]  This kind of censorship, of course, is a major factor when you have a stolen election, as I believe they did in Brazil.
[00:33:21]  We've been talking to Eduardo Bolsonaro, the son of former President Jer Bolsonaro.
[00:33:28]  When I get back, I want to ask him about his father, and he's currently prohibited from leaving the country.
[00:33:35]  They have seized his passport.
[00:33:37]  I want to talk to him about that when we return.
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[00:33:49]  We'll be right back with more of Jer Bolsonaro.
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=== Eduardo Bolsonaro In Brazil (05:07) ===

[00:34:24]  Now, get in the zone.
[00:34:26]  It's the stone zone.
[00:34:28]  Here's Roger Stone.
[00:34:33]  We're back.
[00:34:34]  You entered the stone zone earlier.
[00:34:37]  We're talking politics.
[00:34:39]  My guest is Eduardo Bolsonaro.
[00:34:42]  He is the son of former President Jer Bolsonaro, a great favorite of President Donald Trump, a free pro-freedom, pro-capitalism,
[00:34:54]  pro-liberty conservative who was changing Brazil into a much more economically strong and freer society when essentially the last election was hijacked by a left-wing Supreme Court.
[00:35:14]  Now they are seeking to strip Eduardo Bolsonaro of his passport so that he cannot travel.
[00:35:22]  What is your father's status, Eduardo, in terms of the restrictions on him?
[00:35:29]  So he cannot get outside of the country.
[00:35:32]  He doesn't have his passport.
[00:35:34]  And this is really very unique in the Brazilian judicial history.
[00:35:39]  He was indicted a couple of weeks ago with the accusation of attempt coup d'état.
[00:35:47]  In a moment that he was in Disneyland, it was in January 8th of 2023.
[00:35:52]  It was pretty much a thing that you had in the United States with your January 6th.
[00:35:58]  So this is how he cannot attend events like CIPEC or come to Trump's inauguration.
[00:36:03]  President Trump invited him to come to Brazil.
[00:36:06]  He tried to come.
[00:36:08]  He tried to get back his passport, but this crazy justice of the Supreme Court, Alec Morais, didn't let.
[00:36:16]  That is extraordinary.
[00:36:18]  Well, what are the chances that the law will be challenged so that he can run before 2030?
[00:36:25]  Because I don't think, given the downward spiral on the authoritarian actor government of Lula, where by every measure, their country is failing.
[00:36:38]  What are the chances that the election date will be changed?
[00:36:45]  The judges of the electoral court, they change time after time.
[00:36:49]  So Alec Moraes is not the president of the electoral court anymore.
[00:36:53]  We are going to have on the end of this year a new judges on our electoral court.
[00:37:00]  So this will be the right time to ask for a fair judgment.
[00:37:04]  So maybe we have a chance to overturn all of that.
[00:37:07]  But the problem is Alicia Moraes and his friends in the Supreme Court, they are speeding up the process against Jerry Bolsonaro.
[00:37:15]  They really want to jail him before the elections, because if they do that, for sure, Bolsonaro, by the Brazilian law, he cannot run for president.
[00:37:25]  Doesn't matter.
[00:37:26]  He's nowadays leading all of the major pools of Brazil.
[00:37:30]  So this is the scenario.
[00:37:32]  And I really believe, as in the 2022 elections, we had a partnership of our electoral court with USAID, NED, and Atlantic Council.
[00:37:42]  And they had contracts with millions and millions of dollars, dollars of the American taxpayer.
[00:37:48]  I guess now that Elen blocked, now he froze his assets to come to Brazil.
[00:37:54]  Now I guess it's time to do a second step to fix that all.
[00:37:58]  That's why I'm claiming United States, all the Americans, to support elections in Latin America where only recognize places where you have free and fair elections, where the opposition can run and not this fake democracy, just like you have in Venezuela.
[00:38:15]  And now the Brazilian establishment is copying the semi-system, avoiding the main leaders of the opposition to run for president.
[00:38:23]  If it happens, China will dominate Brazil.
[00:38:27]  All right.
[00:38:27]  I'm afraid we have to leave it there.
[00:38:28]  My good friend.
[00:38:30]  Thank you, Roger.
[00:38:31]  Eduardo joined us.
[00:38:36]  Bolosaro, sorry, pardon me.
[00:38:38]  Bolsonaro is a good idea.
[00:38:40]  Bolsonaro.
[00:38:41]  I'm trying to make you Italian.
[00:38:43]  What can I say?
[00:38:44]  All right.
[00:38:45]  I want to thank you so much for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
[00:38:49]  In the meantime, Tulsi Gabbard visited the southern border.
[00:38:53]  I have to say that she attended with Vice President, Vice President Vance.
[00:38:59]  She continues to impress me as she did recently in Munich.
[00:39:04]  She is mostly talented political communicator that I've seen.
[00:39:08]  And I predict to you on this show, please mark it down.
[00:39:11]  And remember, I said it, she will be the first woman president.
[00:39:15]  Not necessarily in 2028, but I have every confidence that she will be the first woman president.
[00:39:22]  And of course, she is now a Republican.
[00:39:24]  Thank you for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
[00:39:27]  I'm Roger Stone.
[00:39:28]  Until tomorrow, remember, this is the place for news.

=== Roger Stone's Prediction (02:06) ===

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