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Jan. 19, 2024 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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TRUMP’S ENERGY REVOLUTION — The StoneZONE w/ Roger Stone
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The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
And now, here's your host, Roger Stone!
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Troy Smith.
I am the co-host here on The Stone Zone, and today I am filling in for your host, Roger Stone.
As we move forward towards the 2024 election, there are so many questions and concerns that the American people have on their minds that we often kind of lose track of what is most important.
And when that happens, there is kind of a cascading effect that occurs.
Where the most loud subject is often not the most important subject.
So while we focus on things that are cultural, things that are political and governmental kind of get lost.
And what happens is the people that are in control of government, the same people who targeted President Donald Trump, And his administration over the four years and facilitated the FISA spying and facilitated the lawless wiretapping.
Those people end up making the decisions that put us in a position in the future where we are weaker.
And I think the result of Bill Clinton, the result of the Bushes, the result of Barack Obama has been the chaos and dysfunction that we see in the Biden administration.
I don't think looking at the Biden administration that this is the result of one election, folks.
This is the culmination of decades of political control.
And the reason that it is so formidable right now, the reason that it is so large and lurking over our country and having such an effect on the average American at this point is because Donald Trump and his supporters decided to stand up.
And when they decided to stand up, it was at that point that those in control of our government and those in control of our world decided that it was worth plunging the world into a global pandemic in order to regain their political control over the United States.
It was worth them sacrificing our cities in the BLM riots of 2020.
It was worth them destroying our country and handing over the presidency to a shell of a man, Joe Biden, to regain political control of our country.
Now, since this has happened, it's gone in a completely different direction worldwide and China is surging across the globe.
China is taking a foothold in South America, in Central America, in other parts of Asia, in Africa.
China is surging, including in the Middle East, which we're going to get to here.
And just in a few minutes, we're going to bring on a guest, a friend of mine from Maryland who's running for Congress, a great guy who's done a lot to kind of strengthen the political positioning of the Trump administration and the America First movement and to help kind of guide where the Trump policies are in terms of energy.
And that man is Dave Wallace.
He's running for Congress in Maryland, too, and he'll be on here in just a minute.
But as we're talking about where we're heading into here, folks, as far as 2024 is concerned, it cannot be stated heavily enough that Donald Trump is a break from the 28 years of consistency.
Consistency as it pertains to failure that we saw prior to his presidency.
And I'm talking about Bush Senior, Clinton, Bush Jr.
and Barack Obama.
Through their presidencies, the United States slipped and slipped and slipped and slipped, and that has all culminated now in China rising across the globe and the United States continuing to fall.
And as we continue to get weaker, the attempts by the people in control of our country to humiliate us, to denigrate our country, and to make life harder for the average American only increase.
And things get more difficult and more difficult and more difficult.
And quite possibly the most interesting aspect of this is the dichotomy of opinions on where things are at.
Because if you look on MSNBC and NBC News and ABC, they assure you that the stock market is at an all time high and that the economy is doing great.
Meanwhile, the average American struggles to pay for the grocery bill.
The average American struggles to be able to pay to fill up their automobile to drive to work so that they can provide for the family.
The average American has never had a more difficult time existing.
Yet the people in power say things have never been better.
Of course, that means they've never been better for the people in power.
As things have gotten worse for the average American, things are great in Washington, D.C.
Everyone's fine.
Because the mean man, the man that threatened their order, the man that threatened their corruption, and the man that stood in the way Of their total monopolistic domination of this country is gone.
And they have brought 91 counts of fraudulent charges against him in courtrooms across the country with judges that have no interest in the rule of law, that have no interest in decency, that have no interest in the Constitution, and simply seek to meet the political demands of the Democrat and Republican establishments in Washington, D.C.
So...
As we look at the Republican primary field and we look at the results from Iowa, people keep talking about DeSantis.
They keep talking about Nikki Haley and saying, oh, well these people, you know, they showed Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis' speech on MSNBC.
They didn't show Donald Trump.
And that's because there is a concerted effort within the political establishment on both sides of the political aisle to move on from Donald Trump.
That is their goal.
And with Dave being on today, I think it would be interesting to open the show up.
For those that don't know, I got my start with a website called LaunchLiberty.com.
And I founded that and I did a show from my house in Maryland.
And I actually continued that work a year into being down here in Florida.
So Maryland is a state that I pay very close attention to.
And during the last gubernatorial race, there was a man running as a Uh, you know, no, unaffiliated candidate.
His name is Kyle Sefchik.
Good man.
Now, Kyle...
Run several.
I mean, we're talking big charities where Hispanic American charities for homeless Christian charities.
This guy is almost a saint.
I mean, if you looked at what he actually does and how much money he puts back into play.
I mean, this guy is a seriously connected individual.
Now, he attempted to run as an unaffiliated candidate for governor of Maryland.
And upon doing so, he had to get, I think it was 10,000 signatures from random people around the state.
The voters, 10,000 voters had to sign this petition in order for him to get on the ballot.
So he would turn in a sheet of, say, 200, 300 people.
And the State Board of Elections would come back and say, well, actually, like every third name is wrong.
Or this person put the wrong letter.
We can't really tell what this letter is.
Or this person didn't do this right.
So we're crossing the name off.
And basically what it came down to was a third of the names that he collected were pushed away.
Now, going into this election cycle, the next election cycle, there's been a party that has been given ballot access in the state of Maryland.
Now that The party is the No Labels Party.
Now, if you know anything about No Labels, No Labels was created by former Maryland Governor Larry Hogan.
So, Kyle Sefchak, a well-connected guy who does a lot of good charity work, unable to get on the ballot.
Yet, Larry Hogan, with his No Labels Party, instant ballot access.
They already have ballot access heading into 2024.
Now, how would that happen?
Well, I know a lot of people in Maryland, and I know I pay attention to the politics, and I asked everybody I know, hey, have you heard about this petition to get No Labels on the ballot?
Have you heard anything?
Do you know anybody who signed this thing?
And nobody has.
There's not that many people paying attention to the Maryland political scene.
So you're looking at this and saying, OK, they didn't get the signatures, but they got ballot access.
So what does that tell you?
Well, it appears to me that Larry Hogan, who For all intents and purposes, destroyed the Maryland Republican Party is now trying to come up with an alternative to the Republican Party.
And we're seeing this across the board with people like Joe Manchin.
We're seeing this with people like Larry Hogan.
We're seeing this with people like Chris Christie.
We're seeing this across the board where people are trying to adopt this no labels kind of thing.
And we have to examine that and say, well, what is that?
Well, All we have to do is look at Iowa, folks.
The Republican Party is the party of Donald Trump.
And the people like Larry Hogan, the political hacks who spent their entire careers grifting and moving and shaking to try to get to the top so they would have a little bit of power, They are rendered powerless by the people because the people stand behind Donald Trump.
And as we go forward here, we're going to see more people like Larry Hogan on the left and the right continue to levy attacks against Trump and his base in an attempt to To weaken the Republican Party, because if the Republican establishment can't win the fight for the soul of the Republican Party, they will simply steal it.
That's how these people operate.
That's how they operate.
And just, if you want an idea of how these Republicans operate, folks, It was 30 years before Trump stood on the debate stage and said, our industry is being shipped off the shore.
Our industry is being shipped off the shore.
And it took Donald Trump being elected to stand before the executives in this country and say, if you take your plant out of the United States and you put it in Mexico, I'm going to charge you a 40% tariff on every single vehicle you send into this country.
And all of a sudden the plants stayed in America.
All of a sudden, people started building in America.
It took Donald Trump to do that.
Before that, the Republican politicians were absolutely fine watching your jobs shipped off the shore and then watching your family become addicted to opioids as the opioid pandemic just blows up.
And now it's gotten even to the point where they're putting fentanyl in it.
It's not enough that they have you on opioids.
They're going to put fentanyl on top of it to kill even more of us.
And that's the point, folks.
The industry left, and the Republicans did nothing.
The Democrats encouraged it.
Donald Trump changed that.
And the same establishment bureaucrats that sat and watched your country get destroyed, that sat and sold you out, and sold everything across the oceans, Those same people now want control of their party back.
And their horse in this race is Nikki Haley.
Nikki Haley is the globalist establishment Republican candidate in this race.
And if we don't identify that, and we continue to go out there and let her put on her little sweetheart message, It's going to be a massive problem.
It's going to be a massive problem.
And you see people are calling her out.
And trust me, she wouldn't have any support if it wasn't for the millionaire and billionaires dumping money down her back so she could run television ads every second of every day.
It's the only support she gets.
The only support she gets is because she has millions and millions of dollars in the bank from people who want to see this country raped and pillaged, and who have done that raping and pillaging over many, many years.
So the choice, folks, in 2024 is very clear.
We have the established order, the thing that has brought us to the brink of chaos, or the solution to that chaos.
You can either pick the establishment or the anti-establishment.
And what we choose as a nation will determine whether we succeed and whether we continue to have a future.
It will determine whether the fate of mankind will fall off or will continue to grow, expand into enlightenment.
The United States is the watchdog.
The United States is the leader of the free world.
China is trying to supplant us.
But they can't.
They can't because this is not a country that is ready to take things over.
This is not a country that's going to run in and shoulder us out of the way.
As we talk about so many times, China Lays down and lets things happen over hundreds of years, maybe even thousands of years.
Eventually they feel as if they will be in control of the destiny of mankind.
It is our duty as Americans to stand up to them and say, no, this is our world.
This is the United States world.
It is our world and we will control the fate of humanity.
We will enlighten our people and we will expand upon where we are as a species.
We want to see improvement, folks.
We don't want to see this continual backsliding and infighting.
We want to see humanity expand and technology expand, and we want to see the wonders of humankind develop.
We don't want to see them fall into some kind of Chinese dark age of censorship.
So, Moving forward, folks, just keep in mind we can pick the establishment that has destroyed this country or the anti-establishment that serves as an antidote to the chaos.
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Now, ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, I would like to introduce my guest, my good friend.
He's running for Congress in Maryland's 2nd District.
He's also the founder of the Free Energy Foundation.
And as far as I'm concerned, Dave Wallace is about as smart as they come.
When it comes to energy and understanding world politics, it's an honor to have him here.
So welcome on my guest, Dave Wallace.
Well, thanks very much.
Not affiliated with my campaign is Fair Energy Foundation.
And it's such a joy to be on the air with you, seeing you face to face through the digital media that we're using today.
And I want to thank you, Troy, for asking me to come on the air to To enjoy the show with you to the extent you will allow it.
And also, I want to thank Roger Stone, who's a fantastic man.
He's taken a lot of hits by the current Biden administration and Mayorkas and the FBI.
And they're just really doing everything they can to destroy those people.
Who really care about the direction of the United States, where on one side you have fascism, socialism, and they're not too far apart.
They're really not that far apart.
But then on the other hand, there are those people who seek the triumph of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
So children can be raised in loving homes in the nuclear family with a mother and a father.
They're trying to destroy that with cultural Marxism.
They're going to be trying to utilize diversity, inclusion, and equity.
Let's not reverse those letters because it spells die.
It's meant to kill our culture.
We then see the impediments of a fascist control through regulation of our private corporations, as well as even small business.
Every level, especially energy, with the advancement of the Inflation Reduction Act and the impediments against fossil fuels, which are now being directed and huge funds of the federal government are being directed on an open-ended policy of green energy across every dynamic
Across every model, so we can't get investment, which is going to lower the price of energy, including refineries, because everybody's in the Biden administration, the globalists, they've all decided they want to destroy America's energy opportunity and hand it over to the Chinese who will make our solar and wind while they're using coal, the least expensive cost energy,
And they don't care about the pollution like we do.
And we have clean, relative to pollutants, true pollutants, coal production.
We have the opportunities to advance that even further through innovation, ingenuity, and engineering.
But instead they want to destroy us.
So I want to mention that we have a model that is going to propel all conservatives All Americans across the aisle, Democrat, Republican, Independents, of which overall within the United States, we have 27% Republicans, 27% Democrats.
Those two parties are losing constituency.
The American people, because neither party has really focused until Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.
Donald Trump has been the first president since Ronald Reagan to advance the American model.
So when I've been launching and discussing my campaign, I put it in the model of restoring America's mission.
And I've been put on the premise of restore America's mission.
That means restore America's culture, restore America's economy, restore America's security and safety.
Both on our border, our southern border, our ports of entry, as well as resettlement that's being funded and supplied by our U.S.
government, as well as making sure our local communities right here in the Baltimore metropolitan area, Carroll County and Baltimore County, as well as Baltimore City, Are safe and secure, prosperous, and one where we can grow beautiful families where moms and dads can love their kids in safety and in harmony.
And we've got to pull everybody together.
It's the left's job, the most critical job they have, is to divide us, create tribalism, to create envy, greed, jealousy, so that everyone is fighting amongst one another while the leftist establishment and those that are in actuality fascist, based on our American model, who hate the American model,
Caused us to look at each other and not the problem, which is government.
And that's why I'm running.
I love America.
I'm a lifelong Marylander.
I'm a lifelong Marylander who has been raised in this district, at least adjacent, if not directly in it.
I've raised my family in it.
I was educated in science in a Maryland university.
I'm not a carpetbagger.
I'm not a guy who came out of DC and just decided, Hey, look, I've moved to Maryland in the last six years.
I've been working for President Obama, President Biden, even President Trump.
I'm in.
The area that you know as being one of the most, if not the most, industrialized cities in the United States, as well as in the world.
We have the best port, we have the best geography, we have the best placement.
And we all know, when it comes to real estate for industrial capacity, as well as home building and so forth, it's location, location, location, and Maryland
is America in Miniature and when we run and we win in the Maryland Second Congressional District, we as America in Miniature will start taking back America through Maryland, through Baltimore, giving every single
including every minority who's a legal citizen of the United States, the opportunity to thrive, to flourish, to have prosperity, wealth, and human dignity.
And my premise is all based on human dignity and thriving of humanity.
And Dave, I think that's an important, you make a very important point about Maryland in general right there.
It's just, it's such a beautiful place, and it's such a place that kind of represents the United States.
And as we've kind of seen time go on here, it's become sadder and sadder to go into places like Baltimore City.
You know, I, I think if people are not from that area or haven't been there, they don't understand the devastation that has occurred.
As we're talking here, the subject that we really wanted to tackle this episode is Trump's energy revolution.
And you're just the guy that I wanted to talk about this with because you've actually had interactions with the EPA.
You've sued the EPA through the First Energy Foundation.
Fair.
The Fair Energy Foundation, and it's very important for people to understand how the kind of greater picture here of how big energy is of a player when it comes to politics and things of that nature.
So I'd like you to kind of just give us the basic rundown.
What was Trump's big energy revolution?
What was the thing that he brought to the energy industry that kind of revived it to the extent that it did?
Could you start there?
Well, it's very simple.
You unleash the ingenuity of every single American worker, American engineer, the American energy industry, and you don't hamstring it with the regulations and the destruction of all facets upstream, which is drilling, midstream, which is
Transportation, including pipelines, which we know now is being destroyed because President Trump made sure that we had the greatest amount of energy production, the greatest opening of the spigot, so our pipelines and other means of transportation, including tankers that are carrying liquefied natural gas all over the world.
And there were no restrictions.
The only one that is always the premise of any good government is safety and security and the protection of those people who reside near the refineries, reside near the liquefaction plants.
And although there have been circumstances where things haven't been perfect, we see the growth of energy.
And the driver, this is the driver of our entire industrial economy that's based on fossil fuels, whether it's the production of steel using energy like coke.
You can't do everything with electricity as much as Nucor is a phenomenal steel company.
You still need coke-fired steel mills.
We need, in addition to that, concrete production.
And the EPA has been so detrimental.
And the president put restrictions.
He held back the EPA.
He tried to get people into the EPA who would allow America's economy to grow while we grew our energy production.
He also made sure that when our allies and our frenemies needed U.S.
coverage because of the risks posed by Russia, by China, and especially by Iran in the Middle East, where they could choke off the Strait of Hormuz, they could choke off the outlet from the Red Sea into the Gulf of Aden, we made sure That those passageways, those straits, were all safe to travel.
And now we see chaos because of a failed, feeble administration driven by a failed, feeble president who has no direction, no purpose, and his only purpose is to drive the globalist agenda as well as the China agenda over and above every single American
Who wants a good paying job, who wants to see the American economy thrive, so they can have great paying wages, not minimum wages.
Let's remember, when we lost steel because of China, because of Russia, manipulating our market, even manipulating the Bethlehem Steel Works, when RK Steel purchased it, they disassembled it.
Now, was that by mistake or was that by intent?
And how dare we sell off our industrial production to Russian interests, Chinese interests, whether it's land or our industrial base.
Remember, Smithfield Foods, which used to be Smithfield Ham, and everybody knows the Smithfield Ham, that's been sold to China, our land near all of our air bases.
and our military bases, besides air, as well as our missile batteries, our Minuteman missile batteries, our B-52 bomber strategic forces, as well as our B-1, our B-2, and our new bombers, our strategic bombers, are all at grave risk.
Because right now, what do we have?
We have an American Soil being sold off to China and these people are specifically purchasing land close to our strategic bases in the heartland of America.
They're also buying strategic port facilities at every one of the strategic points.
And if we can recall, There was a great general, Sun Tzu, who said the best war is one where you can win without ever firing a shot.
Well, if we see every single one of these international waterways choked off, the United States' vigor will be choked off with it.
And we can't be reliant on China anymore.
Now, You can talk about the problems all you want, but we need real, sound solutions to these problems.
Not ones that are going to be born on the back of Americans, but be born on the backs of the Chinese, the Iranians, and the Russians, who are doing everything they can to marginalize the United States, destroy our friends, the people around the world who have similar and cohesive interests with the United States, This is the War of Aggression.
No doubt about it.
On the middle of October, shortly after the attack on Israel, the cleric in Tehran said that they had coalesced around the axis of resistance and the demarcation point in history was going to be October 7th.
Pre-October 7th and post-October 7th.
And now, They have a war of aggression, low-grade, as you've mentioned on your show in the past, right prior to us, you being on the air, you and I discussed it, where they are doing every single thing they can to degrade America's interests around the world, and they see the future as theirs unless we stand up to them.
We will lose the Middle East.
We will lose our other allies around the world.
And I appreciate, and I didn't want to interfere with your comment.
Oh, no, no, no.
No problem, Dave.
There's a lot to unpack here, so I think everybody, you know, and I think it's, we have your website here, too.
I want everybody to check that out as well.
It's DaveWallace.us.
People can check that out.
And it's, I don't know if we're going to put it up on the screen or not.
Either way, you can just check it out.
It's DaveWallace.us.
You know, Dave, one thing that I think people, you know, because I saw this yesterday, too, and we talked a little bit about this.
There are a tremendous amount of people there who are looking at fossil fuels and they're saying, well, you know, we have to get away from fossil fuels and we have to ban them.
I mean, that's what the green, you know, activists say.
And it's not just people on the street.
I think it's important for the people at home to understand that the really radical climate change green activists They're in Congress, too.
These people are really out there as far as it concerns fossil fuels.
You mentioned there the new Axis.
Now, this is what the new Arab nations are calling themselves in their new alliance.
And it's very important because a lot of their efforts are funded based on energy.
And we look at Iran, and just the amount of oil that Iran is sending to China alone is something like over $50 billion worth a year that it brings into their country.
Exactly.
That's at $80 a barrel.
Anything over that, they get excess.
In addition to that, they're supplying because of the Biden administration's decision to allow Iran to have free energy flowing out of their country, their total income per year is over $100 billion.
$100 billion.
And they're giving that to those people who are not our friends.
Well, exactly.
And you see, as they've been able to kind of expand and kind of have more exports, especially to China.
I mean, I believe they're the number two exporter to China now of all the countries.
They just recently surpassed Russia.
Oh, they're number one now?
A lot of people aren't aware.
They've just surpassed Russia.
So now that number will fluctuate back and forth.
But there are weeks that China receives more.
Natural gas from at least the natural gas from Iran than they will get from Russia and you know there's one thing I want to mention and I want to make sure there's a distinction a strong distinction between the leadership of these Arab countries compared to the Iranian-backed militias within these countries.
And they call out the Iranian-backed militias coming to blows with every United States installation.
They're calling for the destruction.
These are all Iranian-backed militias, whether they're called Hamas, whether they're called Hezbollah, whether they're called the Houthis.
And yet, when you talk to the rank and file, and you know I've been there, I've been there a number of times.
I've been in the United Arab Emirates.
I've been in Kurdistan, Iraq.
I've met with Sunni Iraqis, as well as those people on the ground, even in Beirut.
When I visited Beirut, I've also visited, I have very close knowledge of the situation in Egypt.
They couldn't stand the Arab Spring.
Because we allowed under President Obama, whether you liked him or not at the time, the Arab Spring to give full control, that revolution that appeared and occurred for approximately two years, the Egyptian country over to the Muslim Brotherhood.
And who was the Muslim Brotherhood?
They are the founders of Hamas.
They helped create many of these terrorist organizations.
And although they don't work hand in hand with Iran per se, they utilize the model, an enemy of my enemy is my friend.
And in turn, they build alliances along with them.
But I want to tell you, when this attack occurred on October 7th, It was the day that was just prior, in 1981, that the Muslim Brotherhood killed a man who pulled together a peace treaty with Israel, Anwar Sadat.
October 6th.
So when they did this October 7th attack, I believe, and in fact there are many Israeli news reports that say
The hard left in Israel knew of these attacks, but their blinders to the attack were so strong they ignored them, even though they received a report at 3.30 in the morning from the intelligence services that were gathering information on Hamas and the leader of the organization for security who headed up that ministry,
As a leftist and a holdover from the prior government, he said it can wait until nine o'clock.
And now because of that, we had 1,200-plus, we had 200-plus murdered, butchered, and we had 200-plus who were kidnapped, many of whom had been raped and murdered since then because they didn't want to see them go, including one of those
Who happened to be in the security office where they had intelligence gathering and they were overrun by the small Israeli force.
So we have all of these elements there and we right now, as you are aware, we have Ariane Tabatabai.
Who's a chief of staff for our low intensity warfare.
And whether she's a spy or not, it's not yet been determined.
But she has a strong allegiance, which could give her blinders to the true threats that we see right now, knowing that Iran is becoming momentarily, if not already, a nuclear power.
And with missile technology that can not only be launched in the Middle East, But it could easily be launched off of a freighter off the U.S.
coast, whether it's in the Gulf of Mexico or whether it's off the Atlantic or Pacific coast.
And now, because of our relinquishing the Panama Canal and the Chinese having control over both the Caribbean port, as well as the Pacific port, the Caribbean port on the Gulf of Mexico in the underbelly of the United States,
They have frigates because the Chinese have given marching orders to one of our allies because the Biden administration doesn't stand up to China and Panama, the country of Panama, which is the isthmus of Central America that connects Colombia to Central and North America.
And what they've done is they have allowed these frigates, Iranian frigates, to have direct passage from the Pacific Ocean into the Caribbean.
And what are they carrying?
Are we stopping them with our Coast Guard?
Are we stopping them to assure that they don't have missile technology launched, whether it's rudimentary or not?
Any missile with even a 30 bomb With nuclear radiation on it, even if it doesn't detonate, would destroy the United States.
It would destroy our civility, it would destroy our sense of safety, and it would make 9-11 look like a small pinprick compared to what four or five or a hundred missiles launched from multiple frigates
It really is terrifying, Dave, and I think, you know, for a lot of people, it's got to be tough to hear this kind of information, but it's very important that we do because the stakes are really high.
And when we look at the border, it's exactly the same thing like you're talking about.
We're not looking at things.
We're simply kind of allowing ourselves to be taken over here.
And, you know, Like we said, the distinction here to be made, folks, is that the energy revolution is funding both sides of this.
It was funding America's resurgence under Trump, and now it's funding the resurgence of these terrorist groups who have kind of taken over oil and natural gas production in the Middle East, as Dave pointed out, with the Iranian-backed militias.
Now, Dave, I don't think a lot of people understand the depth And the abundance of natural resources that God has given the United States right under our feet.
So while we hear so much, I'm a firm believer in that politics is downstream from the culture.
That's a Breitbart statement.
He made that in his book many years ago.
I firmly believe in that.
And the culture states that the United States got into the wars in the Middle East over energy.
When in actuality, we have more energy under our own feet than is in the Middle East, don't we?
Absolutely.
For coal, we have four to five hundred years.
And that's, you know, one of the things we want to remember.
That's with current state-of-the-art technology, not future technology.
Those are known, proved reserves.
That we have full knowledge of.
So when we look at oil, we have a few hundred years of oil now.
We have multiple hundred years of natural gas.
And yet this is all being restricted.
What was that?
And that's with no improvements.
Like you're saying, this is going to last much longer.
Remember, we used to look at the oil.
As a depleted reserve, that would force us to go to wind and solar and nuclear.
Nuclear isn't bad, but there's one thing about nuclear we have to worry about.
It becomes the full domain of government, and when government decides to flip it off, shut it down, it would be just as if all of a sudden your internet went down with the snap of a finger.
Where are we going to get our backup reserve?
Where is the diffuse energy model where we have multiple energy sources that not only create balance but give the power to the people of the United States?
That's when we have greater security because then the leftists who want to dominate the United States And use energy as a weapon against the American people, whether they're the globalists, the communists, the Islamists, or our own American socialists, who with power, they themselves would be communists.
I believe the only difference between a socialist and a communist is how much power they have within their fists.
Because when they grab a hold of it with their fist, they're going to squeeze as tight as they can.
When they squeeze, they're not squeezing their fists.
They're squeezing every single American.
And I'm against that.
And although I'm vociferous against the elitist establishment, where they want to see life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for 10% of the people, I'm for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for 100% of the people.
And that's the bottom line.
And that's why I'm running for office, as a matter of fact.
And before that, that's why I founded Fair Energy Foundation, so we could strike back at the left.
We could strike back at those people who want to destroy American lives.
We want to strike back against the people who would destroy our production, industrialized economy for the American worker, where instead of having great paying jobs, they get minimum wage paying jobs.
And we've seen with the destruction of our industrial capacity since 2000, that our wages have only gone up about $3,000.
This is what's causing moms not to want to go to work, but be forced to go to work.
And we need to have an opportunity to fix these problems and in fixing them,
We've been working hard at Fair Energy Foundation, as well as with conservatives around the country, as well as in Maryland, to not just fix America's problems of culture, of economics, and jobs, and also our security, where we maintain and restore our arsenal of democracy,
We have solutions to these as my team that I have put together with some of the greatest minds from across the United States that belong to one of my think tanks, as well as those ideas that are structurally so critical to the Baltimore marketplace.
And one of the things I didn't say about Maryland, as Helen Dealers Bentley said, As others have echoed from her, including William Donald Schaeffer, a great Maryland Democrat.
And that is the way Baltimore goes, the way our port of Baltimore goes, as well as all of its industrial capacity, so goes the economy for the entire state of Maryland.
For good, hardworking, blue-collar workers, White collar workers, tan collar workers.
And this is why I'm fighting for the American people.
This is why I'm in this.
To win it and not to stop until we're victorious.
Well, Dave, I think for the people of Maryland, that would be a welcome change.
I think, you know, living in that state for as long as I did, I understand that there is a little bit of a lack of hope, and your message definitely provides a lot of hope to people who are looking for answers and not just this kind of, you know, this idealism, these bumper sticker words.
You seem to bring a lot more substance, and knowing you, I know you really do bring that substance to the table.
You really are involved in a lot of this stuff.
I would encourage everybody, please check out Dave's website, DaveWallace.us.
Check him out on Twitter.
He's on all the social medias.
And I think you'll be impressed with what you see because the stuff that he puts out there is not bumper sticker, hey vote for me stuff.
It's actual issues and he's tackling real problems.
And I think it's something that is very respectable and something that a lot of candidates could learn from.
So Dave, we've got just a few minutes here.
Before we have to head out of here and enjoy our lovely weekend.
Roger's already got ahead of us here, so he's already enjoying the weekend.
But I think, you know, the one main piece of pushback that I receive on the fossil fuels is talking about climate change.
Because this kind of narrative of climate change has been, you know, it's been hammered over and over again.
People say that if you had your way, that if fossil fuels were unleashed, and that Trump had his way, and that the American people had free and easy access to energy, or I should say cheap and easy access to energy, that our planet would simply boil, that temperatures would increase, that plant life would die.
I mean, they've come up with all kinds of things.
So I'd like you to talk about The effect that carbon dioxide has on our environment and what you found, because it so contradicts everything we've been told, and it's so important for people to understand.
Well, first of all, we want to know that without greenhouse gases, the United States, as well as the entire globe, would be uninhabitable.
We would go from extreme temperatures at night to extreme temperatures in the day.
As soon as the sun would come up, we'd have that immediate heating effect, but because we have water vapor, we do not have that effect.
It is the singular greenhouse gas that has the greatest impact on our atmosphere and on temperatures around the globe.
Now, remember back in the late 60s, 68, 69, It was the beginning of the notorious Ice Age period that was going to envelop the world.
And we were going to have an overnight freeze over, like a cold snap from an Alberta clipper, as Marylanders understand, as well as people in Montana, NIDA.
Yet today, we don't see that.
We're hearing all about Climate change from the standpoint of the gradient of temperatures.
Now, one of the things that dogmatists talk about is cold air is climate change.
Hot air is climate change.
Drought is climate change.
Ocean temperatures.
But the funny thing is, when everything is climate change, you then have to ask, are these people Trying to buffalo me.
So what we do is we look at the number one greenhouse gas, and then we look at the number two greenhouse gas, and then we see what is man's impact on the one greenhouse gas that we've done a little bit with.
And that's the number one greenhouse gas, who the greatest majority is water vapor.
And then people say to me, but, you know, we have so much CO2 in the atmosphere.
How much CO2 is there?
We have 21%.
of the atmosphere.
That's the oxygen.
We know we have a carbon cycle between oxygen and carbon dioxide.
It's not carbon.
It's not coal floating in the air.
It's an odorless, tasteless, non-toxic, non-acerbic gas.
It doesn't burn you up.
It doesn't burn up your lungs.
You have 30,000 parts per million in your lungs even before your brain says, I have to take a breath.
That's 30,000 parts per million.
So they say, what's the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere when we know we have 21% oxygen?
I ask people on the street, I do the man on the street interview, every single taxi driver around the world, they say, well, we know it's a problem.
And how much did you say oxygen was?
I say 21%.
Well, it must be 79 or 80%.
They think the atmosphere is super saturated with CO2.
And then I say, well, you're a little high.
They go 60.
Well, you're still a little high.
40.
You're still a little high.
Well, it's got to be over 21%.
I say, no, as a matter of fact, it's less than 21%.
Really?
So it must be 15 or 18%.
I say, no, it's not 10%.
It's not 5%.
It's not even 1%.
I say, no, it's not 10%.
It's not 5%.
It's not even 1%.
Well, you got to have at least 1% of CO2 in the atmosphere.
And I say, no, it's actually less than a fraction of a percent.
So they say, is it 0.1%?
And I still say, it's still lower.
And these are all facts that can be borne out.
The actual number today is 0.04%.
And if you want to go down one more decimal point, it's 0.042%.
Now are you telling me, with all of the carbon dioxide that's always been in the atmosphere, and we're only responsible for about three of those molecules of CO2, are we the ones responsible?
Or maybe is it that the Earth gases all of those elements that have already been deposited into the soil through all of the geological ages, All of that biomass is finally breaking down.
It comes up through fissures in the earth, and I want to thank you for having me on the show.
I don't know how much longer we have.
We might be only down to the last few seconds, but CO2 is not man-made cause, and CO2 does not affect or impact our atmosphere, and it is not creating climate change.
It is not creating global warming or global cooling.
It is an integral part of the atmosphere that has little, if nothing, to do with the impact on our atmosphere.
Well, Dave, I've met a lot of people doing this.
I've been doing this for almost two years, and you are by far the person that I've met that just understands things at a level that I think I don't really see in government in general.
And that's why you got my full support there in Maryland, of course, as always.
I think there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be supporting you as well because you bring some substance to a field of people that usually and typically do not have that.
So, Dave Wallace, it's an honor, sir.
Thanks very much.
Troy, it's been a real pleasure.
People can go to my website, DaveWallace.us.
We are building a really big ground game and a grassroots game, but if you have $5, $10, $15, or $1,000, whatever you can do,
To make our race winnable based on the fact that it takes money to run your ads and to create knowledge of your campaign and the person who's running and getting voter ID up so we have a real chance of beating a guy who's a go along to get along with President Biden, Dutch Ruppersberger.
He's an elderly man and he's becoming more and more feeble.
I don't believe he's going to be able to handle this in the next term.
I'm here to make sure we have real change for the American worker, the American family, and American security.
Safety in the homes, safety in the streets, safety at our border, and safety for American workers.
So we can produce goods like never before.
We can have the great paying jobs.
And so I just want to thank you for your time.
I want to thank Roger as well.
Mr. Stone for having me on the air.
And your producer and all the people out there who have listened, we want to thank you so much for tuning in.
I'm Dave Wallace, and I approve this message.
Better throw in his tagline there.
I like that.
You know, like I said, folks, the energy revolution is really, it's a centerpiece of the America First movement.
And without it, the whole thing doesn't really work.
And when you contrast and you really look at the whole picture, you see That Dave's right.
The people that are coming after America and really coming after us and coming after our interests, they're being funded by their own energy.
So we can either equal them and we can build our own nation and we can move forward ourselves or we can lose.
And I don't want to lose.
And that's not what we're trying to do here.
We want America to win.
We want Americans to be successful.
And we can do that by getting 100% into the energy field and understanding this whole climate change thing that they're pushing on us are really handcuffs for our economy.
Just one last thing, and I want to mention this.
This is an interdiction of our free market on the kinds of cars you own, the kind of gas stove or electric stove that you purchase.
In every facet, they're destroying our economy.
And also, we no longer have the balance between coal and natural gas and others, because the base fuel is only natural gas.
And when the cost of natural gas goes up, there's no relief valve where we can push back on the amount of coal.
Why?
Because there aren't enough coal-fired power plants.
And when we have electrical production that doesn't meet The demand, because we have so many electric cars, on a cold day like this, you get stuck in the snow, you keep the heater on, eventually that electric car, in a very rapid amount of time, because they push the limits for mileage and the extent that the battery can be used, is destroyed.
And you're out there sitting in the cold, freezing to death.
And that can happen literally, like it's happened in Texas, Where we had the freeze-out a few years ago, as well as California, where they're seeing brownouts.
And thank you very much for having me.
Awesome, Dave.
No, I really appreciate it.
And we have so much to talk about here, it's just hard to fit it all in an hour.
So Dave Wallace.us.
I'd love to have you bring me back.
Oh yeah, yeah, of course, we'll bring it back.
With good information like that, it's important to get your message out there, and it's important for the American people to understand what we are up against, and that's what I hope we're able to do here, folks.
So, I'm Troy Smith, filling in for Roger Stone today on The Stone's End.
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Again, my guest was Dave Wallace.
He's running for Congress in District 2 in Maryland.
You can check him out at DaveWallace.us.
I'm Troy Smith, the Editor-in-Chief of Rare.us and your co-host, or actually your fill-in host today.
I hope you enjoyed the show.
Thanks to Mike as well.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, all of you for watching and I hope you have a beautiful weekend.
We will see you bright and early on Monday.
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