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April 17, 2026 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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Press Corp Humiliated as Press Sec Makes Them Regret Ignoring Swalwell’s Open Secret

Dave Rubin hosts Katie Pavlich and Mikhail Olson to dissect the Eric Swalwell scandal, alleging years of protected sexual misconduct and a $20 million congressional slush fund rejected by 357 lawmakers. The discussion critiques Democratic alliances with figures like Hassan Piker, warns of rising gas prices due to the Iran war, and contrasts these political failures with the heroism of teacher Kirk Moore, who stopped an armed student. Ultimately, the episode argues that ignoring such open secrets signals a dangerous ideological shift within the party. [Automatically generated summary]

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dave rubin
blaze 15:02
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katie pavlich
fox 10:31
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mikale olson
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karoline leavitt
admin 00:54
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stephen miller
admin 00:41
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adam schiff
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jesse watters
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john fetterman
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kamala harris
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kasie hunt
cnn 00:13
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ro khanna
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scott bessent
admin 00:27
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ted lieu
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Personal Responsibility and Political Leverage 00:15:01
unidentified
you All right.
dave rubin
I'm Dave Rubin.
This is the Rubin Report.
It's Friday, April 17th, which means it's time for another Friday roundtable extravaganza.
And joining me, I can't believe this, but our both first time guests, uh, one, the host of News Nations, Katie Pavlich tonight.
Katie Pavlich and an author at the Christian Post, Mikhail Olson.
Guys, welcome to the show.
And before we do anything here, I want Mikhail to quickly introduce himself.
But Katie, I don't know how you have not been on this show before.
You mentioned to me right before we started.
Fox had you under lockdown.
It was hard for you to do other appearances, but this is very, very long overdue.
So I'm happy to have you on.
katie pavlich
I'm happy to be here.
So thanks for having me.
dave rubin
And Mikhail, you have been absolutely on fire on X.
I started following you about six months ago amidst some of the craziness on the right.
And you've just been one of the great communicators as to what's really been going on here.
Maybe for just 20 or 30 seconds, you can just tell the audience a bit about yourself and then we'll dive in.
unidentified
Yeah.
mikale olson
So I started contributing over at the Federalist about 2024, kind of mid 2024.
I did that for a few months.
And then I got hired over at Not the Bee as a news writer, kind of contract news writer over there.
I did that for almost a year, um, and stopped doing that somewhat recently.
And now I'm primarily just over at the Christian Post, uh, writing about the woke right and Christian nationalism and all this fun stuff that we've all been dealing with for the last year or two.
So, yeah.
dave rubin
Excellent.
unidentified
All right.
dave rubin
Let's leave that there.
We'll dive in to the week that was, we'll start with the scandals.
Eric Swalwell, a man who for years, literally years, everyone has known, banged a Chinese spy named Fang Fang.
That's not even what's taking him out.
It's now all of these other accusations of rape and drugging women and a series of other things.
The video that leaked where there were several people in the room where they think at least one of the people was a sex worker and it's like, who the hell was taping that thing?
And that somebody might be underage.
I mean, it's just an absolute, it's like a little bit of everything here.
Uh, here's Caroline Levitt responding to some of the flip-flopping around Ruben Gallego and some of the other Democrats.
Ruben Gallego, who said he was Eric Swalwell's best friend.
karoline leavitt
Look, I think the accusations and allegations against former Representative Smallwell are despicable and disgusting.
I think it's also quite plausible, as you point out, Jack, that there were many other Democrats in this town on Capitol Hill who knew about his perhaps illegal behavior, certainly his disgusting and inappropriate behavior.
And why were they silent for so long?
I think those are questions that must be raised of these sitting representatives, including Mr. Gallego.
And I hope that the journalists in this room will do their jobs, and the journalists on Capitol Hill will do their jobs to ask.
Democrats in power, how they knew about such despicable behavior from one of their elected representatives for so long, but never said or did anything about it.
dave rubin
Katie, can I call you a DC insider?
Is that offensive?
katie pavlich
I'm in DC, but I'm not of DC.
So I've been here long enough that I know what's going on, unfortunately.
I can walk around and go, yeah, this place is disgusting.
dave rubin
All right, fair enough.
So to that point, earlier in the week when this story broke, one of the things I kept saying was that in DC, there are no secrets, meaning you go out to dinner.
It's all staffers and it's the Congress people and senators.
Everything, everyone's talking to everybody.
They're all out drunk all night long.
The idea that, the idea that People were keeping this a secret, or that certain people didn't know, or something like that.
As Pelosi said, nobody had a clue about any of this stuff.
That's just completely insane relative to the culture around DC, right?
katie pavlich
It's absurd to say that.
I mean, this has been an open secret on Capitol Hill for years, and it just shows how dirty the Democrats are willing to play.
I mean, Nancy Pelosi was Eric Swalwell's mentor.
She protected him when the Fang Fang scandal broke.
Let's not forget that Eric Swalwell was on the House Intelligence Committee.
Uh, at the time he was having this, um, situation occurring.
He was ripe for blackmail.
Uh, and then he got a free pass on that.
So he decided to continue on with, uh, overindulging in his new position of power.
And the Democrats just kind of put these things in their back pocket until they needed to use them.
Uh, and now all of a sudden they need someone to drop out of the California governor's race so that Republicans don't take the two slot, top slots on the, the jungle primary ticket, uh, starting to panic.
They're going to lose the governorship of California.
And all of a sudden, um, Eric Spawwell and all of his dirty laundry that's been out in the open, really, but, Excuse for so long, uh, forces him to get out of the race.
Now, I'm not saying that the accusations are false.
Uh, the accusations against him are absolutely horrific.
And I hope that if they're true, the women who he victimized, uh, get justice.
However, his overall behavior, uh, was tolerated because he was willing to go out on TV.
He was willing to go out and be the bulldog, the pit bull, uh, for the Democratic Party, uh, especially in the age of Donald Trump over the past 10 years.
Um, so that's why this is excused.
And for people in DC to say, especially Ruben Gallego, who's a senator from Arizona who Is speculated to possibly have been in that video, went on a number of trips with Eric Spawo.
There's a photo of them on an official Kodel riding camels with no shirts on.
To say that he didn't know anything and that Eric Spawo was leading a double life is just absolutely laughable.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
And also, if someone is.
katie pavlich
Disrespectful to the people watching.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
And if someone is your best friend, I mean, they claim that they have been best friends.
Like, you're going to tell me you just had no idea.
And yet, when the story breaks, you immediately throw them under the bus.
katie pavlich
Especially when you're a dirtbag yourself.
Ruben Gaego is also a dirtbag.
mikale olson
So, Mikhail, I was going to say, it's all these people that are up in arms right now about the Epstein files and they're yelling at Trump or whoever else that might be allegedly named in the files.
And who knows what's actually accurate in there and what's not.
But they're up in arms and using this as political ammunition against the right while their own people are being caught doing this and they've kept quiet about it for years.
It's this DC hypocrisy, which is why I'm glad I'm not a DC insider and I never will be.
So, I will stay far away.
I will stay far away.
dave rubin
You're safe somewhere in Wisconsin, apparently.
Let me show you this quick compilation.
This is Ro Khanna, Adam Schiff, and Ted Lieu.
I mean, this is like a laundry list of just the worst kind of guys.
And no, we had no idea.
Nobody had a freaking clue what was going on.
kasie hunt
Why were Democrats on Capitol Hill silent for so long when, in many cases, we're learning some aspects of this behavior, alleged behavior of Swallwell's, was an open secret, quote unquote?
ro khanna
Well, a guy had heard rumors that he was a womanizer, and that's one of the reasons that I endorse.
Tom Steyer in the race and didn't go along with a lot of the other California establishment that was lining up behind Swalwal.
But I certainly didn't know that he was abusing staff, let alone that there were allegations of rape or date rape.
adam schiff
I certainly didn't know that he was involved in any conduct along the lines of what has come out since Friday.
And if I had, I wouldn't have gone near him with a 10 foot pole.
ted lieu
I had no idea until I read the San Francisco Chronicle article when it was published.
and I believe Representative Swalwell did the right thing by resigning.
dave rubin
Guys, it's worth mentioning that there was a vote on whether to release the, the, uh, people who have been named in payments, congressional payments to all of these staffers over the years who have been harassed.
And it's a crazy amount of people.
357 members of Congress, including Rohanna, decided to vote against releasing that information.
Only 65 voted for it.
Mikael, I guess none of this should surprise us.
Like, this is the swamp.
mikale olson
This is the swampy swamp in Swamptown.
I don't want to hear another word from any of these people about the Epstein files, especially Rokhana.
Because it's, again, it's like, it's rules for thee, not for me.
It's, I'll use this sort of political leverage against my opponents.
But when it applies to my team, I'm going to vote against transparency.
I'm going to vote against accountability.
I'm going to play dumb.
I'm going to deny and deflect.
This is the classic pattern.
It's crazy.
katie pavlich
Well, and on this exact issue, Dave, you mentioned the slush fund.
So we had Anna Polina Luna on my News Nation show on Wednesday night because she's the one leading the charge to get this list exposed of, The people who have been using this slush fund, which is taxpayer money that was codified into law by Congress to pay out settlements for sexual harassment or sexual abuse cases committed by lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
It's to the tune of something like $20 million, millions and millions of dollars.
So she's working to get that list.
Speaking of lists, that list released.
But when it comes to accountability, she talked about look, we're also, I don't care whose party it is, I don't care if we're Republican or Democrat.
If you're engaged in this gross, creepy, inappropriate, unprofessional behavior, especially with subordinates who are working for you, your staffers who are trying to come to DC and have a career, we are going to make sure that you're held accountable.
I mean, uh, Tony Gonzalez, who is a Republican, also resigned this week because there are threats of expulsion against him.
He had an affair with a staffer who then lit herself on fire, uh, committed suicide.
Uh, then you have Corey Mills, who is a Republican as well, also under fire, uh, for having a number of inappropriate relationships.
And these things vary.
They're not the same as the swallow accusations.
His are Right.
dave rubin
And that's not even to talk about the Democrats who obviously have ties with terrorist organizations like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib and everything else.
But just think how crazy it is that there is a slush fund set aside because these people are all harassed.
Like, I don't have a slush fund at this company.
If you harass this guy, you're fired.
You don't, you don't get money to harass him.
unidentified
I have a slush fund.
I'm just kidding.
It's just so insane.
dave rubin
Like, I'm going to set aside some money every year so that in case these people start harassing each other, we'll just quiet them.
It's bananas.
I want to get your guys' money.
katie pavlich
I'd rather take money from people in Kansas and then give it to people in D.C. to be discussed.
dave rubin
Right, exactly.
unidentified
Great.
dave rubin
Here's White House spokesman Stephen Miller talking to Jesse Waters about how actually all of this blackmail and the slush funds and everything, this is all baked into how the Democrat Party operates.
jesse watters
Has the president said anything about Swalwell?
I don't know if he's said anything.
Has he been following that?
stephen miller
Why, has he had a bad week, Jesse?
I haven't been watching.
He might be busy with bigger matters than what we're going to have to have.
Couldn't have happened to a better person.
But look, here's the most important thing if we have 10 seconds on this, and I'm sure you would agree with this.
The most important part about this story, and look, Swalwell is a scumbag.
He is a terrible person, the worst of the worst, the lowest of the low, the most dishonest of the most dishonest.
But the real story here is how the Democrat Party controls its members through blackmail.
It's got a blackmail file on all of its politicians, and it uses them to leverage and control them until it's time to release it.
That is how sick and twisted the Democrat Party is.
That's the next thread we've got to pull out here.
dave rubin
Katie, I mean, that's quite an accusation.
It doesn't ring untrue to me that when you see Democrats consistently take sort of crazy position after crazy position, that there actually might be a reason behind that beyond the ideological lunacy of the left.
unidentified
Yeah.
katie pavlich
And like people also from a policy perspective, Democrats are willing to tolerate a lot of this behavior and they have for decades, um, to get what they want politically.
So for example, everybody's kind of like, how did they tolerate Eric Swallow's disgusting behavior against women when they claim to stand up for women, especially women's rights, blah, blah, blah.
It's like, I remember being at the 2012 DNC convention and it was all about how Mitt Romney himself and the Republican party was waging a war on women.
dave rubin
He had a binder.
unidentified
He had a binder.
katie pavlich
He had a binder full of women that women were, Going to have a war against them if Mitt Romney were to win the election.
And during a break in between speakers, they played a seven minute long tribute video to Ted Kennedy.
And on it, they stamped the words women's rights champion.
And I was like, didn't this guy like crash his car into a river and leave this woman to drown, but then she suffocated to death because he didn't call the police in time?
And the reason they tolerated that is because they're doing that so long as you vote for abortion, you can do whatever you want to women.
You can sexually harass them.
You can.
Bill Clinton's a good example of that.
You can sexually abuse them.
You can leave them there in your car to drown so long as you support, uh, the policy positions that they want.
dave rubin
Uh, Mikel, do you think it's as bad in the Republican party?
I mean, Katie mentioned there, we got, what's his name?
Uh, was it Gonzalez in Texas?
So there's some stuff going on with Republicans and Mills is probably in some deep doo-doo.
And I have no doubt it's a both sides thing.
However, the, the extortion portion, portion of it seems more obviously bad on the Democrat side.
unidentified
Yeah.
mikale olson
I think it's worse on the Democrat side.
If I had to guess, obviously, I'm not the, the DC insider, so I don't know.
But, um, if I had to guess, I mean, even, even looking at who these people support politically, like kind of what you said, where they're, claiming to champion women's rights.
They're, they're, but they're supporting abortion.
They're supporting all these things that are very anti women at the end of the day.
They're also, you know, championing, which I'm sure we'll get into this later.
They're championing Hamas and Islamic radical terrorist organizations while also claiming to be feminists and pro women and pro women's rights.
And they care about women, but they're tongue kissing these radical Islamists who hate women like objectively and overtly.
And so I don't think we can expect anything else in their private life if this is, or if this is what their public life looks like.
Um, I, we don't see that as obvious on the, on the right.
I think there's a little bit more of a culture of obviously there's parts of it that are bad, I'm sure, but generally speaking, it seems like more of a culture of actual decency and honor and conservatism that still at some level exists on the right that we just don't see anymore on the left.
dave rubin
There's some level of belief in personal responsibility.
At least there's just something there.
mikale olson
Maybe not much left.
dave rubin
Maybe not much, but there's a little flicker in the face.
mikale olson
They're not going to wave it in your face.
dave rubin
But you gave me an action, you gave me a perfect segue to the next thing that I wanted to hit on, which is that this guy, Hassan Piker, who, believe it or not, I worked with at the Young Turks many lifetimes ago, he is one of the worst human beings I have ever come across.
He is a multi-millionaire, communist, quasi-Islamist, who is telling his kids, and it's kids that are watching him on Twitch, literally how to build suicide drones, that 9-11 was good, that Hamas is good, uh, that he has nothing, he walked the streets of China and said he has nothing to be proud of as an American.
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dave rubin
He went on one of these Obama bro podcasts, and here he is saying that Hamas is better than Israel.
And actually, he would vote for Hamas.
unidentified
When you say Hamas is a thousand times better, do you actually mean that?
Or is that a rhetorical move or like a solidarity signal?
Like, what?
I mean, it's all of the above.
I do mean it.
I think it's a rhetorical move because it frustrates a lot of people.
I've also said I'm a harm reduction voter, I'm a lesser evil voter, and therefore I would vote for Hamas over Israel every single time.
dave rubin
Katie, I mean, what?
What?
katie pavlich
I go from laughing to like, this is super dangerous.
I mean, this guy is on the record multiple times, dozens of times, calling for murder of people he disagrees with politically, just like a good Hamas supporter would do.
dave rubin
Yeah, blood in the streets.
katie pavlich
And yet, Democrats are campaigning with him for the midterm elections.
This is not some guy who's on the far fringes of the internet.
He is actively working with the Democratic Party on the campaign trail.
And it just goes to show how far the left has gone to.
solidify this communist Islamist partnership that they're using, uh, this anti-Americanism that they are not just shying away from, but fully endorsing and embracing.
I mean, it's, it's wild.
He was at Yale University.
I believe it was on Tuesday talking about again, which he said before that the fall of the, the communist USSR was one of the worst thing that's, that's ever happened to, to the country.
I mean, it's absolutely crazy that the Democrats are endorsing this guy.
dave rubin
So, Mikhail, for those of us that don't want the Democrats to be in power or win the midterms or whatever, we should sort of want them to attach themselves to this guy, right?
Because at some point, if you push the average person far enough with the rhetoric, for example, I'm, I vote for Hamas who killed, put aside Jews in Israel, they killed 47 Americans.
unidentified
Right.
Right.
dave rubin
It might, it might actually backfire.
unidentified
For sure.
Yeah.
mikale olson
I mean, you can't go around saying that I'm going to vote for a terrorist organization because I, I, I'm a, what did he say?
Safety voter.
I care about safety or however he worded it.
It's, it's obviously ridiculous to the average person, to the normal person who's not in this, you know, this, this swamp that we mentioned in the first section.
Most people are going to see this and be immediately repulsed.
They're going to want to vomit.
And so I'm not sure how this is in any way different than what they've done in the past, which is what led to them losing the last election.
They were saying crazy stuff under Biden.
They were doing crazy stuff under Biden.
Kamala Harris was saying crazy stuff and people rejected it.
People rejected this woke mind virus because of it.
And Donald Trump won.
And I don't know why they're running the same op again.
It's almost worse this time.
dave rubin
This is a- Well, it seems like it's going to its final form, which is the morphing into Islamism or jihadism or whatever you want to call it.
But I want to show you this.
I don't know if you guys saw this.
This is absolutely wild.
So the New York Times, which is, it is pure propaganda that would make Pravda red in the face.
So I think it was the day before that piece that we just showed you there where he sat down with the Obama bro, this Hassan Piker guy.
There was a piece written by Ezra Klein, who's just kind of one of these limp wristed Democrat, whatever.
He wrote, and it was an op-ed piece, but he wrote, uh, the headline is Hassan Piker is not the enemy.
Then that piece comes out, that interview comes out where Uh, where he says he would vote for Hamas.
And then they subtly and quietly change the headline to, This is Why There's No Liberal Joe Rogan.
I mean, Katie, to me, that is the perfect example of everything.
It's the perfect example of the media lying.
It's the perfect example of running cover for these crazy leftists.
Like, it's ju- it shows you the radical-ness of their positions.
It's just got a little bit of everything.
katie pavlich
So there's, there's two things that are happening here.
There's the first, there's like the camp that are true believers, like the Hassan Piker wing where they, they truly believe that Hamas is better and that the communism is better than the capitalism.
They're the true believers.
But when it comes to, um, like Ezra Klein, they're trying to kind of say in the Obama bros, and they did this in this podcast, they try to kind of say like, you don't really mean that, right?
Like you're just being, you're exaggerating.
Like they try to kind of sanitize it and make it palpable for the average person.
And then the people are like, Hassan Piker's like, no, like, I actually believe in terrorism.
And they don't know what to do with it.
So then they have to, like, change their position.
They're kind of like, oh my God, you know?
Um, so there's the denial people, the delusional people, and then the true believers who are taking over the party.
dave rubin
Katie, at what point, at what stage do you think a guy like Ezra Klein gets beheaded?
So he runs cover them for a while, but what do you think?
It buys him an extra month when the revolution comes, or you think he's got a couple of weeks?
What do you think?
katie pavlich
With a name like Klein, I think he'll be first on the list.
unidentified
Yeah.
Ding, ding.
katie pavlich
Unfortunately.
unidentified
Like, come on.
mikale olson
This guy's the Nick Fuentes of the, of the left at this point.
It's the same kind of thing.
We saw this with Tucker Carlson when he interviewed Nick Fuentes when Nick Fuentes was saying crazy stuff like, oh, I actually really admire Joseph Stalin.
And then Tucker was just kind of like, wait, what?
Like, he kind of had this like, you don't really mean that, right?
Okay, let's just move on.
It's like, not really pressing him.
It's the same thing.
It's the same kind of, as Ben Shapiro says, um, you know, they're laundering bad ideas to the American public so they can have this plausible deniability.
So then when, This Obama, you know, mainstream Democrat gets questioned on this.
He can say, well, I didn't actually say it.
I tried to give him an out.
I don't actually blah, blah, blah.
You know, what you could see how this could go.
It's the exact same thing we're seeing with the woke right.
We're seeing this with the woke left.
And I think most Americans are just, we're just tired of it.
dave rubin
We're all tired of it.
I think people are starting to widen up and we just have to show them better ideas.
There is one sane Democrat.
He is a man who a few years ago had brain damage.
And as his brain has healed, he has become more conservative.
Obviously, I'm talking about John Fetterman.
Here's Fetterman on Piker.
unidentified
Do you feel isolated with your views?
Do you think that, because the Democrats usually, they all stay in the same line.
They get in line.
john fetterman
Well, it's like if you're going to embrace a guy that's proud he loves Hamas, I mean, you're going to, like, I don't care who says that.
If someone decides, oh, I love Hamas, I'm never going to, you know, partner with them.
dave rubin
Katie, how much longer until the Democrats go in full revolution mode on Fetterman?
I mean, they've basically got him in the Senate.
I don't know how many sane Congress people they have.
Nobody that really rushes to mind.
And they've got half of Bill Maher at the media level, but they're coming for this guy, right?
katie pavlich
Yeah, absolutely.
When he's up for his seat, there's going to be a lot of money poured in from the far left of the party.
The Democratic Socialists, for example, who are openly pro Hamas, they're the ones who got Mom Dhani into office.
They have a plan for the rest of the country.
You know, everyone kept saying, oh, Mom Dhani's kind of a joke.
And it's like, no, it's actually a test case for how to get these radical people.
Pro Hamas, pro terrorism, anti American candidates into office.
And Fetterman is certainly on the top of their list, unfortunately.
I mean, it's crazy how normal Democrats have just gone extinct in the party.
And the ones that are left, like Elise Slotkin in Michigan, for example, I wouldn't say she's super moderate, but she's not as moderate.
She's not great, but she's not like Hassan Piker.
And she's changing her votes to appease this wing of the party.
It's absolutely insane.
mikale olson
Yeah, you really see that.
You see these kind of, and this is how the radicals take over.
They.
And you can go back to what we talked about in the first section with blackmail in the Democrat Party, where they'll use things like that in order to force people to vote radical, even though they themselves don't actually probably believe this crazy stuff, but they'll go along with it anyways.
It's like party loyalty is the highest value to these people instead of actually telling the truth, actually being honest and serving the American people, like what they swore an oath to do.
It's just all about dollars and party loyalty and all this.
And at this point, honestly, I think that Fetterman's probably the only person in the Democrat Party that doesn't have brain damage.
dave rubin
It's just like if you were writing the script, It's just too obvious.
unidentified
It's too good.
Yeah.
dave rubin
Do you guys remember there was this woman?
I can't remember her name.
Maybe you guys remember.
She was really into concentric circles.
She knew a tremendous amount about geography.
I remember at one point she knew that Russia was big and Ukraine was small.
She was always studying maps of things.
Do we have a video of this woman?
unidentified
What was it?
kamala harris
Everyone, so I'm here in Charlotte.
Since the start of Trump's war of choice, it's $15 more every time you fill up your tank of gas.
The price of diesel has now gone up 80% since the start of the war.
And you best believe that's going to carry over to how much you're paying for all the goods that are being transported on those semis.
We've got a president who is paying more attention to what he thinks is in his best political interest and personal interest as opposed to what is in the best interest of working people in America.
dave rubin
Katie, I'm pretty sure she was just sniffing the diesel there.
katie pavlich
Yeah.
Where do we begin with this?
Uh, the woman who was pledged to prosecute oil companies is now going to say that we, we need oil and that, you know, we, we actually have to make sure that people have access to things that cause climate change, in her opinion.
dave rubin
I mean, it's just not only that, she also pledged to not let Iran get a nuke.
Remember, don't.
She said the word don't.
That's a very scary word.
unidentified
Oh, God.
Yes.
katie pavlich
I'm so tired of Democrats also using this term war of choice.
Uh, that, that along with, uh, it wasn't an imminent threat.
It's like, okay, so do they have to be, you know, pointing a nuke at your face before you get to call it an imminent threat?
Clearly, she's thinking about running again.
She talked about this week with Al Sharpton that she was considering going another presidential run.
She apparently wants to go back to trying to do math by standing in front of California gas prices, not mentioning, of course, that California has the highest gas prices in the country because of all of the rules and regulations they put on the gas companies there and also the taxes that they put.
Onto everyday people who are just trying to get back to and from work.
So I don't think this message is going to resonate, especially given during the Biden administration, the reason why things were so expensive at the grocery store and all that is because of gas prices.
But that was something they inflicted on the country through their overspending and policies against the oil and gas industry.
dave rubin
Mikhail, as I mentioned right at the top, I sort of got started paying attention to you when you started talking about this woke right stuff.
And you're now seeing this weird coalescence of these guys.
It's the horseshoe theory of politics, you know, basically that you now have.
These far lefties who are in bed with the far righties.
And right now, their main focus happens to either be a hatred of Israel or the West or now of Trump and the Iran stuff and all that.
So, can you maybe take the other side of this?
Forget Kamala for a second, but the people on the right who are sort of taking the same position on all of this stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
mikale olson
You're seeing this weird emergence because, I mean, I think, again, to reference Ben Shapiro, I think he's been saying a lot of good stuff about this lately, where he put this video, or maybe.
Couple days ago, where he said something along the lines of there's not a Democrat Republican as much anymore as there is a America, you know, you actually care about America.
unidentified
Right.
mikale olson
American exceptionalism.
American exceptionalism versus people that hate the United States.
And so everything you're seeing, whether it's the woke right or the woke left, the trying to rehabilitate Adolf Hitler to the crazy stuff going on in the Democrat party, it all serves one central purpose.
That is to demoralize the American people, get them to hate their own country.
That's why you have Kamala up there.
You know, talking about gas prices the way she is.
She doesn't actually care about the consumer good.
She doesn't actually care about the voter.
She wants you to hate the current administration and as a result, hate the country and, and, and become black-pilled essentially against the United States at large.
And so I think this is what we're seeing on both sides.
And they're, they're trying to attack middle America.
They're trying to attack the middle class as best that they can and get us to hate the country we live in because historically that's been the problem with communism is they've had a really hard time attacking the middle class.
That's why it wasn't successful in the West like it wasn't Eastern Europe and other places because we had a strong middle class.
And so that is their primary target right now.
dave rubin
I will say that.
katie pavlich
Americans have the attitude too of just like not having a grievance policy.
unidentified
Yes.
katie pavlich
Like most Americans want to make it on their own.
They don't want to blame other people for their problems.
They want to stand on their own two feet.
And that's why you're seeing this argument of grievance policy because it's so toxic.
And that's what communism is.
Communism is all about being jealous of your neighbor and therefore the government has to control and make sure everybody has the same thing because people have grievances and, and they're envious of the success of others.
The American family and the American people, especially the middle class, Generally does not have that attitude.
It's actually what sets America apart from the rest of the world is to reject that grievance ideology.
And you're seeing it infecting, uh, the, the discourse on both the right and the left.
dave rubin
I also think they're making just a tactical mistake here because if your whole argument is Iran war bad because temporarily oil prices are high, then all Trump has to do before the midterms is one way or another get them low, which I think will happen.
And then suddenly the argument disappears.
Actually, here's, uh, Caroline Levitt and Scott Besson on that.
karoline leavitt
You know, the president's been very clear again, as the secretary just said, this is a short term disruption for the long term strategic goal of the United States to ensure that the world's leading state sponsor of terror cannot obtain a nuclear weapon.
scott bessent
I'm optimistic that sometime between June 20th and September 20th, we can have $3 gas again.
And as I said this morning, too, we are going to be watching the gas stations because they raise prices very quickly when they stated.
When the crude oil prices went up, we hope they'll bring them down just as quickly as crude oil prices have come down, which they've come down substantially just in the past 10 days.
dave rubin
So, Katie, one of the things I've been talking about on the show a lot lately is how does Trump frame things?
What has to happen, basically, before the midterm so that the Republicans win?
And to me, if gas prices magically go down, that's what Besson's predicting right there.
We get a wrap up of the Iran war and an expansion of Abraham Accords, and I bet you something's going to happen on that over the summer.
We're just seeing, you know, right after tax day that people are getting more rebates and big, beautiful bill.
The economy is going to start chugging along.
So, in some sense, should everyone just kind of calm for the people, for the panicking?
Should the panicans just calm down for a second?
katie pavlich
Everyone needs to chill just for a sec.
Stop black billing.
There's a lot of good ingredients right now that just need to cook together over the course of the next couple of months for Republicans to be successful.
Now, historically, it's very difficult for presidents to hold on to a majority.
If the president were to lose the House, that would not be abnormal.
That would be actually very normal.
And then Democrats will use their time.
Exactly.
Democrats will then use their time and their power to impeach the president again, which they've openly stated.
That's something that voters should actually think about too.
Like if Democrats win, do I really want them to spend the time impeaching the president for a third time?
Um, but there's a lot happening with the economy.
The tax rebates are coming.
Tax day was yesterday.
It was on Wednesday.
Um, you have GDP cooking along the, the economy as a whole, which the president talked about on the campaign trail is shifting from a government jobs program based economy to having the lowest federal government workers in something like 50 years.
The government is shrinking.
Impeachment Threats for Voters 00:02:04
katie pavlich
Which means that the economy is more capable of producing on its own without having it taken away from them.
So there's a lot happening, and six months in political years is a long time.
mikale olson
Unless you're in New York City.
unidentified
Right, yeah.
katie pavlich
Unless you're in New York City.
dave rubin
If you're in New York City, get out now.
unidentified
Get out.
dave rubin
But don't come to Florida.
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Mikael, can I ask how old you are?
unidentified
30.
dave rubin
You're 30, okay.
So you're young, you're in the middle of the country, you're wearing a hoodie, so you're a normal guy.
mikale olson
I've got my camo hoodie.
unidentified
I represent.
mikale olson
You can't even see my body right now.
It's just a bloody guy.
dave rubin
Right, exactly.
That's what I'm trying to illustrate.
You're just kind of a normal guy.
mikale olson
For sure, yeah.
dave rubin
What else besides the stuff that we just mentioned?
Okay, so economics, maybe the war calms down, gas prices go down.
mikale olson
What else do you think the average 30 year old guy in the middle of the country needs to hear or see happen so that we don't get Yeah, I think, and again, this goes back to what I've done a lot of writing on, which is how we got connected in the first place, is right now you're hearing a message identical to the woke left from these woke right people, people that a lot of us trusted at one point, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly got on the list.
We're all familiar probably at this point.
You're seeing this message, this grievance, kind of what Katie said, this grievance study style message against the United States, and they're using the conflict in Iran.
They're using the Israel conversation.
They're using The economy, or whatever it might be, as the wedge to convince young Americans like myself that it's hopeless, it's lost, everything's doomed.
Conflict Rhetoric vs Reality Disconnect 00:03:52
mikale olson
And therefore, the only proper solution is to make sure everything is torn down.
And this is why you see people like Dave Smith, Nick Fuentes, and others openly telling young Americans, young conservative Americans like myself, to go and vote for the Democrat Party.
They're openly saying this.
And so, in order for young people like myself to understand that, especially with a conflict like this, there might be high gas prices for a short time.
But we have to have a long term strategy.
We have to look at the whole picture and we can't get caught up in these internal grievances that will literally never end.
That's what critical theory is.
The purpose of why it exists is to create constant conflict.
They want you in a perpetual state of conflict so that you revolt and violently against the entire system that you live in.
And they're going to use every anecdotal set of information to try to convince you to do that.
You just have to tune it out because it's not real life.
Take ownership of your own life in any way that you can.
That's the solution.
dave rubin
You know, I'm sure you're constantly in conflict.
katie pavlich
You're not working on yourself.
unidentified
Yes.
katie pavlich
You're not meeting your own goals.
There's a distraction from your own individual response to your greatness as an American.
unidentified
Yeah.
mikale olson
I mean, honestly, get off, not right now, during this episode.
unidentified
After watching the show, yeah.
dave rubin
No, but I always tell people that.
Yeah, get offline for the weekend.
You know, I do my August off the grid.
Like, you have to connect to some of that other stuff because the disconnect between the rhetoric online and what's happening in reality just seems to be widening and widening.
But to that point, I always like ending the shows, particularly on Fridays, so that people can roll into the weekend feeling good about.
There is an incredible story.
Like, you want to find, like, a great human being, a wonderful American, and someone that's educating kids that actually should be doing it.
Listen to this story from the New York Post, and we're going to show you some video.
Kirk Moore 60 charged at 20-year-old Victor Lee Hawkins, who was armed with two loaded semi-automatic pistols in the lobby of Paul's Valley High School last Tuesday afternoon, according to surveillance footage obtained by KOCO.
The crazed gunman's weapon malfunctioned before he aimed his pistol at another student who begged him not to open fire.
Moore, who has worked in the school district for more than 35 years, rushed to the school lobby to investigate the commotion.
Hawkins was seen pointing his weapon at Moore's head and firing a shot, which struck the educator's right leg before he was tackled.
The principal shoved the gunman toward a bench before getting on top of him while the terrified student fled.
Hawkins admitted to stealing the gun from his dad and told investigators he wanted to conduct his own school shooting like the Columbine school shooters did, referring to the 1999 massacre that left 14 victims dead.
Hawkins has been charged with Shooting with intent to kill and other firearms related charges and will appear in court on May 8th.
Meanwhile, Moore said he's healthy and recovering after being hospitalized.
Just watch this footage.
unidentified
Watch this.
dave rubin
And obviously there's no audio here because this is closed circuit television.
Running at the guy, literally saving that guy's life, that kid's life, getting shot.
He's 60 years old.
And it goes on.
We can, uh, the reason I wanted to end with this is we forget that there are heroes out there.
There are good people out there.
It's easy to do the panic and doomsday or black pill thing, but it's not everybody.
And let's find more of these guys, right, Katie?
katie pavlich
Yeah.
We need more good news.
And guess what?
There's a lot of it.
So highlighting it is really important.
And, uh, Amazing that someone would risk their life to make sure that others are safe.
So, kudos to him.
And we know that there's a lot more Americans out there every day, maybe not stopping a school shooting, but doing absolutely heroic things to help people in need and strangers who they don't even know.
dave rubin
Mikhail, slightly strange to give you the last word about a shooting warrior in Camo, but here we are.
Heroes Amidst Internet Insanity 00:04:39
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
mikale olson
Yeah.
I mean, similar to what Katie said, I think it just goes to show that that is like the American spirit personified this heroic, I'm going to go sacrifice myself.
Potentially for somebody else.
That's a value that seems to be lost on a lot of young people these days.
It's all about the self and self help and self preservation and me, That's what we constantly hear from the media these days and on social media.
And it's like the, the, the reason why this country is so great in the first place is because we used to be a group of people that didn't think that way.
It was about others.
It was about serving others.
It was about sacrificing yourself and working for other people for the benefit of other people and seeing a story like that.
I mean, that's exactly what this is.
dave rubin
So on that note, everyone can get offline in five.
unidentified
Four.
katie pavlich
Have a great weekend.
unidentified
Have a great weekend.
Thank you.
Yeah, make yourself comfortable.
dave rubin
And this week on the internet, fans of Sabrina Carpenter criticized her for mocking an Arabic call during her show at Coachella.
unidentified
Is that what you're doing?
I don't like it.
dave rubin
Man, she's even got that look when you try to mansplain how to drive to a chick, which is oddly similar to the look that Arnold used to give Willis when he was up to one of his harebrained schemes.
Speaking of Coachella, concertgoers from around the world paid thousands of dollars to watch Justin Bieber play D's Nuts on stage.
unidentified
D's Nuts?
Got it.
Got it.
dave rubin
I don't even know what D's Nuts is, but my guys told me that you kids out there like brain rot, so we gave that to you.
And speaking of brain rot, rumor has it that Rosie O'Donnell will be a possible contestant for season 35.
Of Dancing with the Stars, even though judges are worried she'll hog up the floor.
I mean, she's kind of a pig deal.
unidentified
Lesbo.
dave rubin
This week, Eric Swalwell resigned, an unhappy ending for a guy who apparently got a lot of happy endings.
And with all these Swalwell accusers coming forward, I'm shocked not one has said, Officer, he farted on me.
unidentified
The evidence is uncontradicted that the president used taxpayer dollars.
To ask the Ukrainians to help him cheat an election.
dave rubin
That's a weapon of ass destruction.
All jokes aside, these are serious allegations and they're not something to take lightly.
Laura after Taco Bell.
You know, Swalwell was actually the one guy in Congress who literally looks like the dictionary definition of the word douchebag.
In fact, I had Joseph over here look up the word on dictionary.com, and sure enough, this is what we found.
Now that Eric Swalwell has dropped out of the race for California, Governor, billionaire Tom Steyer is projected to win the coveted seat.
Yeah, this guy.
I assume that was him with D's nuts.
This shows, of course, that with the dream, perseverance, and at least $2 billion in the bank, you too can join crackers with attitudes.
unidentified
Oh, that's who that was.
Okay.
dave rubin
Like them.
Well, from crackers to crackheads, it was revealed this week that Hunter Biden is no longer living in the United States and is $17 million in debt.
He's so broke that he's offering to fight Don Jr. and Eric Trump in a cage match for money.
Of course, with that money, he'll likely buy a lifetime supply of ass pillows on Amazon.
Is that not what same day shipping is for?
This week, Britney Spears checked herself into rehab after her latest DUI.
And before going in, knowing she might be gone for a while, she made sure to post one more butt slapping video on Instagram.
You know, you may think that's in poor taste, but Eric Swalwell.
Paid good money for that show.
In other news, Madonna's releasing a new album, her first in seven years.
She says making the album made her feel like a virgin again, something she hasn't been since the Hindenburg disaster.
And that's why I'm always grateful to do This Week on the Internet, because if it wasn't for the Internet, we wouldn't know half of this insanity, and guys like Eric Swalwell wouldn't get exposed, and guys like Hunter Biden wouldn't expose themselves.
And that is This Week on the Internet.
unidentified
Now get off.
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