Isabel Brown defends her CPAC remarks against "The View's" criticism, arguing hosts like Sonny Hostin and Anna Navarro elitistically discourage motherhood while enjoying their own wealthy families. She rejects the claim that women's worth depends on childbirth, highlighting the $400,000 childcare cost crisis ignored by critics who project their issues onto her. Despite offering to fly to New York for dialogue, Brown notes executives declined, suggesting an unwillingness to engage in honest conversation about balancing careers and raising children like her daughter Isla. [Automatically generated summary]
The funny thing is, they never once reached out to me before they did this segment.
They didn't give me a heads up that they were going to be calling me out by name the entire time.
And so I found out about this because a Fox News digital reporter reached out to me and said, Hey, do you care to comment on anything that's going on with The View?
I said, What the heck are you talking about?
I don't even know what you're talking about.
So I ended up Googling it, did a little Google.
This is my new favorite phase, and watched the whole segment to be completely flabbergasted that not only was this an attack on motherhood, it was an attack about me the entire time for having the audacity to just be happy, I guess, as a wife and a mom.
I'm Dave Rubin, and this is The Rubin Report, and we've We've got an early evening show for you because my friend Isabel Brown just decided to upset the ladies of the View.
And conservative activist Isabel Brown had a message for her fellow Gen Z women who reportedly are the least likely group in America to get married and have kids.
If you're not encouraging your children to grow up and have the courage to get married and have kids, more kids than they can afford before they think they're ready, it is high time to start.
It is these choices like deleting our dating apps and putting birth control pills and saying I do at the altar that ultimately trickle down into the political policies that we will see save our country.
I think it's just really reckless to be suggesting that people should have children when you now know in this country there's this affordability crisis.
And for a two-person household, a married household, you need over $400,000 for childcare.
Honest to God, I said this before we started recording today, too, but I literally had no idea that this was going to be looked back as one of the most controversial things I've ever said.
This was the last answer to the last question on a 30-minute panel that I was on last week at CPAC about the importance of the family.
And I probably repeat this same mantra like 400 times a day when I'm doing speaking engagements, when I'm on social media, when I'm down at the White House and talking about what young people care about.
Like this is easily one of the least controversial things I've ever said.
And yet, this is what The View has decided to attempt to cancel me for.
And I think it has profound spiritual implications.
I gave a quote to Entertainment Weekly because that's how I found out all of this happened in the first place: somebody sent me the Entertainment Weekly headline with my name in it as the stupidest person on the planet.
But I gave them a quote and they ran this headline this morning: The View co-host.
Oh, that's the wrong one.
That's the old one.
I don't know if I have the new one.
Anyway, essentially saying these women are shrieking like demons.
And they published that in the headline of Entertainment Weekly.
And I left, but it's also like profoundly true.
There is very dark spiritual, demonic level energy that came out of this seven minute segment from these women who never gave me a heads up, didn't invite me on, didn't want to have an interesting conversation about the role of the family, but made infinite assumptions about me, my husband, my daughter, all of whom you know, simply because I had the audacity to say, hey, I love being married.
I love being a mom.
Other people should want to be married and be a mom.
There was so much packed into the idiocy of the seven minutes, but the general notion that, you know, five women of a certain age and certain means and certain success on a show that was designed to show you the panoply of opinions that women have, that they would all, all of them in unison be upset by this is rather extraordinary to me.
I'm going to talk about the emotional bandwidth too.
Whitney Cummings, their little guest host comedian who's filling in for Alyssa Farah, ironically, I believe while she's on maternity leave, you can't make this stuff up, said to me on this show directly that, you know, all sorts of crazy things.
I should leave my husband.
We should check in with you and your boobs.
And if your boobs are too sore, maybe you're not going to want more kids after you've been breastfeeding.
But she said, I did a little Google on our Isabelle to find out she has a one-year-old.
So I, Dave, did a little Google on all of the other hosts of The View.
And it turns out around this table of five women, every single one of them but one has children.
And every single one of them but one has been married or is currently engaged to be married.
And so what's ironic to me and really disturbing, honestly, is that this is good enough for these women who are making millions upon millions of dollars and then get to go home after running their mouth all day on national television to snuggle their babies in bed and make that the most important thing in their life.
But it's not good enough for young women who may be experiencing economic hardship, who are just starting out in life, who haven't found their forever person yet.
That's never something to strive for for the average person because it's an elitist thing, apparently, to want to have children.
What did you make of the line that Sonny Hostin, who I truly think is the most unlikable racist person on television, when she said that it costs $400,000 worth of childcare to raise a child?
I mean, I know that, and I said this on my show this morning, one of the reasons that you guys left Miami was that you were pregnant.
I was thrilled when we came to your house and you told us we were both thrilled for you, obviously, but you didn't have family here and you wanted to be a little bit closer to family.
That's one of the reasons you guys moved to DC.
But she just picked, I mean, $400,000 a child?
I don't know where I have no idea where that came from.
It is meant to scare and lie to you to fearmonger to the point that you'll never think it's possible for you, which is really pathetic and shallow and sad.
I remember that conversation like it was yesterday.
And now my daughter Isla is going to be one next month, which is crazy.
That went way too fast.
But we did come to DC partially because our village is here.
So many of my friends are here.
We have extended family nearby.
People fly in all the time to help us.
And it really does take a team to raise a child.
What's worse, Dave, you said she said it costs $400,000 in childcare to raise a child.
It's actually more outrageous.
She doubled down, insisting it costs $400,000 a year in childcare to make sure that you can provide for your child.
Now, if you're paying that, I don't even want to know all the services that are coming with that package because that's a level of wealth I will never understand.
But the average American family is paying about $10,000 to $15,000 in child care if they're sending their baby to daycare.
And that is expensive.
That's something that we should be talking about.
It's why I fight for stronger parental leave policies across this country, why we want more child tax credits, why we want to make it easier for young people instead of huge corporations to buy houses.
It's why our vice president, when he was in the Senate, introduced a bill to make childbirth free.
And this is part of the conversation.
We need to be banding arms together across the party line instead of just pointing the finger and saying, well, I make thousands upon millions of dollars a year.
So I can pay $400,000 annually to take care of my baby, but you can never do that.
The worst part, though, of all, and then I promise I'll let you back in, Dave, is that while she's screaming at you about the affordability crisis, I looked it up, did a little Google, so to speak, and Sonny Hosting was wearing an $800 jacket while telling you that.
Or if they want to have children, although my guess is that a bunch of their children don't like them very much.
And that's actually what they were projecting onto you more than anything else.
But what about the component?
I think it was Anna Navarro, who's another gem over there.
It really is just like it's just incredible what's happening there.
But basically, you know, saying, you know, feminism was sort of the promise of you could get out to work and you didn't, oh, she said, I think you didn't have to just be about your ovaries, something to that effect.
Well, that's where I defended Brock because she also then said, you know, she didn't bring up the man in all of this.
And it's like, well, I know Brock and he's a wonderful guy and he has a job and is thrilled to be a father and all that stuff.
But what they've sort of sold young women, and you've written about this and we've talked about it before, what they've sold young women in terms of making a life.
Like you've been able to balance both in that you have a career and you're a very proud mama.
And I have a feeling there's going to be more on the way very quickly if you want to break some news right here.
I don't know, but that's just my feeling.
I just have a feeling.
But that they've sold basically a bill of goods that's not legit.
And it was honestly gross just seeing these high-powered career women who are also moms and figuring out a way to make it all work tell you that it's not possible for you, that it's demeaning to suggest that for women.
Many times they used the phrase, it's out of date or it's something that we should leave behind.
I mean, Whoopi Goldberg ended the segment saying, Isabelle, you're telling women to have as many children as they want to.
I'm going to send you back to the past.
That is a direct quote.
So you literally can't even want children at this point.
And honestly, it reminds me a lot when we talk about this conversation related to systemic racism, right?
Because it is the same bigotry of low expectations.
The women of the left look at young women today and they genuinely think that you are not smart enough.
You don't work hard enough.
You are not capable enough.
You are not strong enough to handle the challenge of having a successful, thriving career and a beautiful, thriving family life.
That's always going to be more important than your career.
And if you want to choose not to have a career, that's wonderful too.
That's something worth pursuing.
The job of being a mom is 24-7, 365.
It is infinitely harder than collecting a paycheck.
But I'm so grateful that when I was growing up, my parents told me you can do anything.
You can accomplish anything.
You can have it all, although maybe not at the same time.
It takes a team to do that and you need some extra hands on deck, but never let anyone tell you that you are incapable of accomplishing something.
That's the message of the left.
And ironically, the not feminists, the anti-feminists are the ones telling you that you are strong and capable enough to do it.
Yeah, I'm just so appreciative that my mom had a career.
I'm the oldest of three.
She worked before I was born.
Then she was home all of those years so that my brother, sister, and I all had breakfast and then came home to a snack and was there.
And then when my sister, who was the youngest, when she was of age, my mom went back to work.
And it's like, yeah, maybe it can't all be done perfectly at the exact same time, but there are things that matter more than work.
Let me ask you one last thing, which is, will you sit down with the ladies of the view?
Because you know that somewhere in New York right now, there is a board meeting and they're having that kind of, uh-oh, are you breaking news right there?
I just want to read their exact statement because, yes, I've been asked this question multiple times today.
And the funny thing is, they never once reached out to me before they did this segment.
They didn't give me a heads up that they were going to be calling me out by name the entire time.
And so I found out about this because a Fox News digital reporter reached out to me and said, hey, do you care to comment on anything that's going on with The View?
And watched the whole segment to be completely flabbergasted that not only was this an attack on motherhood, it was an attack about me the entire time for having the audacity to just be happy, I guess, as a wife and a mom.
So immediately we reached out.
I said, I would love to come on the View and have this conversation.
I'll fly up to New York tomorrow.
And I asked my team over at the Daily Wire to give them a call immediately.
I also had some friends in the government who I've been friends with for a long time.
That's all I'll say.
Text the executives at ABC News and tell them I would be more than happy to get on a plane to New York tomorrow and talk about this.
They said this, good to hear from you.
They talked about Isabel today.
Yeah, no, no wonder.
And we will definitely keep in mind we're booked up for the next few weeks, but I'll keep her on our radar.
So I don't think they're remotely interested in having an honest conversation at all.