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dave rubin
Previously on the Ruben.
unidentified
Pete Hex said, say, kill them all.
dave rubin
Don't kill the other guy on the boat.
unidentified
The ruthless Venezuelan gang, Trende Aragua.
dave rubin
My transnational terrorist organization.
unidentified
Poured alcohol on the floor and couch and then set it on fire.
dave rubin
You could try to burn that woman alive.
Let him out one more time.
Sup, yo, I'm Dave Rubin.
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And as I mentioned at the end of the show last night, or yesterday, last night, I was at Mar-a-Lago for the Prager U annual gala.
I think we've got a couple pictures here.
One of the things that they announced at the Gala is there's a new board of advisors.
As you guys know, Dennis Prager, who's obviously pictured in the center there, he took a spill about a year ago.
It was right after the election last year, and he is actually, he's unable to move below his neck.
It's quite a tragedy, but he still has his mind.
He can still speak.
He gave an audio message last night.
But in light of his absence, a few of us, and obviously you recognize some of the people there, Larry Elder and Dinesh and Glenn Beck and Konstantin Kissen and Ben, etc.
We are on the board of advisors of Prager U now, and they did a really cool, it was like a Harry Potter, all of our images were moving kind of thing.
And they announced that.
That was very nice.
And then I got to spend the evening with some of my good friends.
I gave a little talk and introduced my old friend Larry Elder.
And there I am with Glenn Beck, who Glenn is just, I got to tell you, I mean, you guys know I love Larry.
Glenn did just such a wonderful job.
He brings up artifacts, historical artifacts from American history and gave a wonderful, wonderful talk.
There's Dinesh D'Souza, who gave the invocation, and Marissa Strite, who's the Prager UCO.
And it's just cool to be, you know, at Mar-a-Lago.
It's the president's house.
He wasn't there, but it's the president's house.
It's pretty cool.
And I was reminded, actually, it was a bit emotional in some sense, because actually the last time that I saw Charlie Kirk in person, I didn't even realize it until last night, but it was a year ago at the very same event.
Charlie and I had spoke over the last couple months of his life.
But the last time I saw him in person was at that very event, and we were standing down by the pool.
And I've had this story just sitting in my head, and I didn't want to mention it.
It sounded almost a little bit corny to me in a way to say on, you know, when I was doing all the television appearances about his death, so I didn't bring it up.
But since I mentioned it last night, I'll just quickly tell you.
Charlie and I were standing downstairs during the cocktail hour at this Prager U event just a year ago.
And Trump walked by on the, he was upstairs on the balcony and he walked by and he waved to everybody.
And eventually he came down and he talked to everybody.
But I was standing, Charlie was basically standing between me and looking up at Trump.
So I'm looking at Trump and I see Charlie and those of you that knew Charlie, if you're seeing the videos of him, I mean, he was really tall.
The guy was about 6'4, 6'5.
And I'm looking up at Trump and I say, you know, that could be you one of these days.
And he said, God help us all.
And then he had that kind of funny, like, crooked smile where he looks away a little bit.
So anyway, I had forgotten that story.
So today's show, however, putting all that aside, it was a great night and Prager is doing really great work and they raised over $2 million and I'm thrilled to be part of what they're doing.
Today's show is really mostly focusing, although we're going to get into a lot of the stories that we covered yesterday.
We're going to really, really focus in on the media coverage of all of this and the ridiculousness, particularly as it relates to what's going on with Venezuela right now, where we know that narco-terrorists are loading up boats filled with fentanyl.
They are speeding to them.
They are speeding them to America and we're blowing them up.
And even if they didn't have fentanyl on them and cocaine and all sorts of other drugs, if you just get a bunch of guys hopping in a boat, speeding to America, you can't come here anymore.
Like we're just a serious country again.
We were not for four plus years, but we are again.
And we're going to cover that.
But really, as you guys know, I'm always interested in the narrative around things more than the story.
So we're really going to cover the narrative of how the media is kind of lying to you about this, that they are spending more time, in essence, defending narco-terrorists, even than criticizing Trump.
It's rather extraordinary.
And let's start with the ladies of the view.
Here is Whoopi Goldberg claiming that Pete Hegseth will be pardoned for his war crimes.
As far as I know, he has not committed any war crimes, but that she's basically making the argument someone will else, this guy Admiral Brady, will take Bradley will take the fall and Pete will be pardoned.
For what?
I have no idea.
whoopi goldberg
I do believe we said yesterday that this is exactly what they were going to do.
They were going to blame the folks who worked in that plane.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's like that.
whoopi goldberg
Because they knew that Pete would, he's going to get a pardon.
So he's not going to be held.
unidentified
The blaming.
whoopi goldberg
It's like, I didn't do what he did and I didn't do what he did.
This is what they did.
Look, watch this.
See this?
See the bus over there?
unidentified
Yeah.
sunny hostin
Yeah.
unidentified
Under the bus.
sunny hostin
That's the Admiral.
unidentified
Yeah.
sunny hostin
That's the Admiral.
When you're really a leader, you take responsibility and accountability for the wins and the losses for all the decisions that are made.
That is true leader.
With the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of War, whatever he wants to call himself.
dave rubin
Okay, so of course they're going to go after Hegseth for this.
Now, I'm getting this live on the fly right now.
So this is a tweet from Nicholas Fonde Caro, who's quite a good media analyst.
So I have not read this before.
The guys just threw this in just now, and it's regarding the clip we just showed you.
The View claims Admiral Bradley was the pilot flying the plane to take out the alleged narco-terrorists.
And despite playing clips of the administration defending Bradley, they claim the administration is throwing him under the bus and Secretary Hegseth is going to receive a pardon for war crimes.
Okay, so there's a couple things here.
Again, let's put aside some of the legal stuff for just a second.
And as I said yesterday, there really is no such thing as international law.
The President of the United States swears an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States.
And if he feels that people are bringing drugs into the country, which you can absolutely argue is an act of war and a breach of our national sovereignty and all of those things, he can do what he wants.
But let's put the legal side aside for a moment.
On the narrative side, what is wrong with you, Whoopi and Sonny, and the rest of you crazy harpies?
Why is it that you are, I get it, you have Trump Derrangement Syndrome, and I get it you hate Trump and you want, and anything that you can do to destroy this administration, you will do.
But maybe you want to pause for just a moment when it is obvious that we have a massive, massive drug problem in this country.
Go to our big cities and look at the streets.
You guys, the View studios are on, I think it's 66th and West End over there.
That's not too druggy in that area.
But why don't you go a little more towards Hell's Kitchen and see what's going on?
Because it's right in your neck of the woods.
Now, you guys don't live in that area.
You live in nicer areas.
But why don't you care about that?
Instead, you're just getting hung up on whether we did a second strike on these people or anything else.
Anyway, you can see that they really want to pin this on Hegseth right now.
And I told you guys way back when, when he was just before he was even confirmed, that this guy in some sense was going to be the number one guy they would want to take out because not only did he have the pedigree, but he had the TV chops as a news host on Fox to deal with the BS media.
And here he gives me a perfect example of that.
pete hegseth
I did not personally see survivors, but I stand because the thing was on fire.
It was exploded and fired and smoke.
You can't see anything.
You got digital.
This is called the fog of war.
This is what you and the press don't understand.
You sit in your air-conditioned offices or up on Capitol Hill and you nitpick and you plant fake stories in the Washington Post about kill everybody phrases on anonymous sources not based in anything, not based in any truth at all.
And then you want to throw up really irresponsible terms about American heroes, about the judgment that they made.
I wrote a whole book on this topic because what politicians and the press does to warfighters.
dave rubin
You get it.
You get it.
And that's why they hated him because he's clearly laying out something that's real.
There is the notion of fog of war.
Stuff is happening and it's happening on the fly and unfolding right in front of our eyes.
And you think that the members of our military are either being instructed, kill as many people as possible or kill that person, kill this person.
No, they're doing their job.
And then there are times when you can't see exactly what's happening.
You don't know exactly what's happening.
Things are blowing up.
You don't have perfect imagery or anything else.
Now, again, that's putting aside the specifics of the legality or the argument around do you do a secondary strike?
And, you know, if you blow up a boat and you kill eight of the 10 drug traffickers, but two of them are swimming there, what do you do with them?
You can have that debate.
But this just, this whole thing, and especially the way the media is going after Trump and Hegseth on this, just to me, this is a huge win for Trump.
The average person at the end of the day that is not purely political, that's just at home.
If you say to them, do you want more illegal drugs coming into this country?
They say no.
Are you okay with Trump killing the people that are speedboating massive quantities of deadly fentanyl onto our streets?
Yes, they are okay with that.
So this is just a win.
And Trump is basically not going to back down on this one.
It's extremely, extremely obvious.
Take a look.
unidentified
You just mentioned that it's official signs, Gregs.
Can you elaborate anything on that?
donald j trump
Yeah, if they come into a certain country or any country, or if we think they're building mills for whether it's fentanyl or cocaine, I hear Colombia, the country of Colombia, is making cocaine.
They have cocaine manufacturing plants, okay?
And then they sell us their cocaine.
We appreciate that very much.
But yeah, anybody that's doing that and selling it into our country is subject to attack.
brian ohara
So not necessarily just Venezuela.
donald j trump
No, not just Venezuela.
unidentified
No.
donald j trump
Venezuela has been very bad.
unidentified
Venezuela has been really bad.
dave rubin
That's what we voted for.
It's just clean and clear and everything else.
And he's not getting lost in the minutiae and he's not taking the bait with the questions.
If you are making and or sending drugs to the United States of America, we are going to deal with you.
It's kind of funny the way he said.
He's like, and Colombia's making cocaine.
I had no idea about that.
I'm pretty sure that's a well-known thing.
But you get the point.
He's just not messing around anymore.
And that is what a serious America first administration would do.
And again, it's not even about, oh, that we're going to have to blow up boats every day.
Like there's going to be this endless onslaught of boats always coming.
Once you do it a couple times, then the average drug runner is like, you know, maybe I'm a little less inclined to hop on the boat because they're blowing up the boats.
So it's the signal you send to the world.
It's exactly what we did with the border.
The reason the border is closed right now is not just because we physically did some things at the border and we monitored the border better and put troops down there and all of those things.
It's because we said to the world, don't come or you're in deep doo-doo.
Speaking of doo-doo, here's several people in the mainstream media and they're upset that Donald Trump is protecting the sovereignty of the United States.
rachel maddow
It's taking a step back from this, Nicole.
I don't understand why we're going to war with Venezuela.
And I'm not sure the administration has even bothered to try to come up with anything even internally coherent in terms of explaining why Trump has proclaimed that we are at war with Venezuela.
adam smith
People on a boat in the middle of the Caribbean carrying cocaine are not a direct threat to the lives of our service members or Americans.
jim himes
There is no such thing as a narcoterrorist.
There are very, very bad narcotics people, cartels, et cetera, but they're desperate to make this look like it's ISIS or al-Qaeda.
leon panetta
As far as I'm concerned, there is a war crime involved here.
dave rubin
What is wrong with these people?
I don't know.
I actually don't know.
Like, what is wrong with you?
And maybe the answer is that Trump derangement syndrome is actually a genuine mental disorder that could be studied and diagnosed.
That's what it seems to me.
Because if you care about anyone like Leon Panetta or Rachel Mattow or any of you people, do you have children?
Do you have brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles?
It can kill anyone.
And again, it's not just the fentanyl addict that you think of, you know, in downtown Chicago doing that fent fold that we've talked about.
It's literally, it could be a 16-year-old kid that's smoking weed for the first time that's laced with something and they just drop dead like that.
Why do you not care about that?
And why are you more concerned about quote-unquote international law?
Now, that was Leon Panetta, who was the last guy that we showed you there, who was Secretary of Defense under Barack Obama.
unidentified
He also was one of these, whoops.
dave rubin
Yeah, he was one of the spies who lied.
He was one of the 51 intelligence experts who falsely discredited Hunter Biden's laptop.
There he is.
They even circled him on the internet over there.
And it's like, why do you guys not care?
So when we were putting this segment together, it's like there's a plethora, plethora, literally an unending deluge of videos we can show you of American cities where people are dying and in just horrible, destitute shape with these drugs.
And we've shown them all the time.
But I want to show you one that I shot myself.
You've seen this one before.
You've been watching the show for a while.
This is quite literally 15 minutes after the first time that I went to Twitter, then Twitter, now X, in San Francisco.
This is the first time that I met with Elon personally.
So I'm upstairs in San Francisco, meeting with the world's richest man.
And then I walk downstairs and this is the video that I took.
So someone explained to me, Rachel Maddow, Leon Panetta, the rest of you clowns, explain to me why do you not care about that?
By the way, that was also at the height of COVID, and some of those drug addicts were not wearing masks.
And that was very upsetting to me.
Ironically, me, who did not wear a mask during all of COVID and often got yelled for it, yelled at for it, that was one of the few moments I did want to wear a mask because the smell was horrible.
Obviously, you didn't want to breathe in whatever was going on there.
But why do you guys not care about that?
And not only do you not care about that, you seem to care more about the people who are bringing the drugs in than those people that we showed you right there, or just the average person who maybe is trying to just walk down the street and doesn't want to walk through that.
don't care about the average American person to Abby Phillip over at CNN.
abby phillip
I think that's, again, a basic question in all of this.
Do we know for sure that all of these people were involved in the drug trade?
Do we even know what drugs we're talking about here?
kaitlan collins
But in a sense, it doesn't matter.
dave rubin
Well, yes, lady, you got that right.
I can't remember her name.
I interviewed her years and years and years ago.
But Abby, your question is wrong.
Let's pretend that there's 10 guys on the boat with all of the fentanyl and seven of them aren't even exactly sure what they're doing.
You know, they're just out there for a boat ride and three of them are really aware of the drugs.
It just doesn't matter.
Even if they had no drugs, let's try it this way.
Just think about it in any other situation.
Imagine if 10 people from America got on a speedboat.
They had drugs or didn't have drugs.
In a weird way, it doesn't matter.
You can't just burst into another country's sovereign territory.
They then have every right to do whatever the F they want to stop you, right?
So imagine if just 10 people, again, with drugs, without drugs, pick your people, pick what they look like, pick their race, pick their gender, pick their genitals, the entire thing, put them in a dress, I don't care what you do.
And they hopped on a boat and they went as fast as they could to Mexico, right?
They go from here in Florida.
They hop on a boat, Miami port, and they're on their way to Puerto Vallarta, okay?
Or a little closer, let's go to Cancun.
And they're just speaking.
Well, I would expect that the Mexicans could do whatever the high hell they want to those people.
So it's just, why are you guys always concerned about the wrong people?
We did finally find a politician, Congressman Carlos Jimenez, who went on CNN and explained the sort of hypocrisy around all of this because Obama used to drone strike the hell out of everybody.
carlos gimenez
I'm confident that the Admiral thought he was carrying out his mission.
unidentified
Why is it questionable to order a strike to kill individuals who are survivors?
carlos gimenez
Terrorists.
Okay, these are absolute terrorists.
unidentified
But there wouldn't be anything.
carlos gimenez
I didn't see this kind of scrutiny when the Obama administration was launching drone strikes against terrorist organizations in the Middle East.
I mean, that happened all the time, okay?
And so, you know, I didn't see this kind of scrutiny about the survivors, et cetera.
These are terrorists.
They're bringing poison into the United States.
They have killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.
And we need to understand that.
Killed far more Americans than al-Qaeda or Wolfie.
dave rubin
Why do you care?
Why should we as Americans care if the guy bringing the drugs whose boat got blown up is then wounded?
Why is that what you care about?
And Jimenez is completely right.
You hypocrites would not care in the least if Barack Obama did this.
Barack Obama literally via drone strikes killed American citizens overseas.
You guys did not care at all.
And try it this way.
Drugs are a weapon, right?
Remember the opium war is like drugs actually are a weapon.
If you couldn't beat America militarily, which nobody can beat us militarily in a conventional war, what would be a way that you could maybe beat America?
Well, you could culturally kind of destroy us and that sort of thing.
You might also drug a certain portion of our population, which then just decays everything slowly.
So it is a tool of war in some sense.
So when Jimenez says it's killed hundreds of thousands of people, he's right.
You have to figure out, okay, is this coming from China?
Is this coming from Venezuela, et cetera, et cetera?
And imagine if a boat was coming.
Let's try it this way.
How about a boat's coming with a bunch of parts to make a dirty bomb?
Would we blow up that boat and would it be within our right?
It damn well would.
And then should we give a shit about the guy who's wounded?
No.
And a dirty bomb could kill a couple hundred thousand people.
Well, that's what fentanyl and these other drugs have done.
So this is just so simple and obvious and they are trying to guilt you.
And this is what they do with everything.
They are fake good guys.
We're so good.
We care about the injured drug dealer who might drown.
Sorry, dude.
Get on it, find the door like it's Titanic and you're Jack and just get on the door and you're going to hang as long as you can, but it probably will not end well for you.
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Okay, so we will be focusing, as I said, mostly on the media today, but I want to jump to Nashville because we played a couple videos in the last few days over this woman, this crazy leftist progressive by the name of Afton Ben, who there had been leaked audio that came out, her talking about how much she quite literally hates Nashville and doesn't like country music and doesn't like the people and doesn't like all the girls that have their bridesmaids' parties there and all of these things.
Well, it turns out that if you say on video that you don't like the place that you're running for, you might lose.
And hallelujah.
Yes, she lost.
The new congressman in the special election from Tennessee's 7th District, which covers Nashville, is Matt Van Effs, the Republican.
And he won pretty handily, actually.
He won.
He had 53.3% of the vote.
Afton Ben got 45.6% of the vote.
So that's just great.
And here is Scott Jennings over on CNN, as usual, explaining simple, basic common sense logic to a bunch of dullards.
scott jennings
Well, first of all, there's lessons to be learned from everything.
When you win, there's lessons.
When you lose, there's lessons.
And so I'm sure they'll look and see who turned out and what messages were effective and which ones weren't.
And that'll be something the party can move going forward.
I still think they are in position to make an argument that their economic theories are better than the Democratic theories.
And Democrats, after all, took prices to the moon.
And now they want to forget the last four years and pretend like this just started 10 months ago.
And I think she and her brand of politics are the median Democrat.
This is the basic Democrat you're going to get in most races around the country.
This person running on defund the police, radical progressive positions, whether you're in Nashville or Manhattan or Florida or Cal, wherever you happen to be, this is what the Democratic base wants.
dave rubin
That is correct.
That is correct.
The Democratic base has gone bananas.
You guys know that there are a couple outliers, couple lonely guys, John Fetterman and a friend of his, that's pretty much it, that are trying to keep the party from going completely insane.
And we now know that the progressives are even going to run a primary against John Fetterman, the one sane Democrat.
So they thought, and they're going to try this everywhere.
And in certain places, they will win.
I mean, look, they just won in New York.
They ran an absolute communist, leftist, collectivist, quasi-jihadist concoction.
That's what he is.
He's barely a person in some sense.
He's just like a groupthink bleh, Zorhan Mamdami.
There, I said his real name.
Wasn't that nice of me?
I was trying to say moron Zamboni.
Anyway, but he's right.
They're going to keep running this test all over the place.
thankfully a place like Nashville, which actually is a little more lefty than most of the state of Tennessee, they made the right choice.
Now, so that, now let's go to Scott Jennings after, oh, wait, no, we already did that.
Let's do, where are we here?
Sorry.
Here they are.
We're jumping before the election now.
This is Jennings checking Caitlin Collins as she defends Afton Ben's Defund the Police Commons.
kaitlan collins
Because you said that she ran on defund the police.
There were her past comments on that, but she said that that was basically when she was a private citizen, before she was representing the state legislature.
I mean, that wasn't like a core tenet of her campaign.
She talked about affordability.
So I think my question is, is do you really think every that's what every Democrat looks like?
I mean, I don't think that was the main, that was something that is of hers, obviously, in past comments, but that wasn't the tenet of her campaign or anything.
scott jennings
She got asked about it repeatedly and refused to back away from it.
And look, I'm just telling you, this is what Democrats believe and this is what their base wants.
It's why she wouldn't go back on it.
I was just a private citizen.
Oh my gosh, we've never held what you said as a private citizen against you in a political campaign.
For goodness sakes.
dave rubin
Okay, sorry, I think I might have misspoke there.
The prompter freaked for a second.
That was obviously post-election.
And Scott calmly, as always, explaining that this woman, you can't run away from these crazy comments anymore.
And by the way, in a normal world, no one that was ever for defunding the police or any of that craziness would even be considered by a mainstream political party.
But that is what the left has become.
So now we'll go to a video.
So this is Afton Ben herself, just a day or two before the election, refusing to admit that funding the police is actually good.
unidentified
Would you like more money for more cops on the streets in your district?
aftyn behn
So those past comments were at a time when I was a private citizen as an activist and organizer.
And now as a Tennessee lawmaker, I represent 40,000 individual opinions and political thoughts.
What do you think now?
unidentified
Would more money for cops be good or bad?
I think it depends on what the community wants.
dave rubin
You're supposed to lead, lady.
You're supposed to, it's just endless drivel.
We're not going to hear much more about this lady, thankfully.
But it wasn't just that she was a radical when it came to policing.
This, this image popped up.
I mean, need an abortion.
We're here to help.
It's like, why are you glorifying abortion?
We can all have a debate about abortion.
We can have a debate about the heartbeat bill.
Or should it be six weeks or 12 weeks?
Or some people don't want it to be at all.
Or should it be a state's rights issue?
But it's like the glorification of it.
We found this image, which I, oh, there's, if you need an abortion, there she is for you.
Wire hanger.
That might be AI.
I'm going to have to, we will do some research on that.
One more from Scott Jennings, though, because I think he's just nailing how radical the Democrats have become.
And this is why, you know, with some of the fighting that we've seen on the right lately, it's been so disappointing.
It's like the left has gone so bananas that for whatever the differences are on the right, whether they're foreign policy or economic or whatever, it's like, man, if you love this country and if you're not like completely brainbroken, we should all be in on this together and put aside little petty differences.
And we should be lining up behind Trump and MAGA because we have such an opportunity to continue this.
And yet we seem to be fighting a bit.
But it's like, man, listen to just how crazy these people are, which is why Scott Jennings has become a star.
scott jennings
He likes to define the party around the issues on which the lines are the brightest.
You mentioned men and women's sports.
This issue sunk the Democrats in 2024.
And, you know, if I can't trust you not to put a boy in a girl's locker room, why would I ever listen to you about tax or health care policy?
You know, I wouldn't because you're a lunatic.
I mean, it's obvious.
And so, and so Trump instinctively knows this, and he is a master at putting these issues front and center.
And of course, if we're the party of common sense, they are reflexively the party of uncommon nonsense.
And they take the opposite to him on every single thing.
dave rubin
Yeah, and that really is the point right now, guys.
Trump is going for basic mainstream common sense logic.
Again, like dealing with drug dealers that are coming over.
Like it's a fringe minority.
A lot of them happen to be in the media, but it's a fringe minority of people that really care about the injured guy in the boat who was bringing the fentanyl over.
And is he going to drown?
Like people just don't care about that.
I don't even want to get into the gender thing.
We're past that.
We're past the obsession with racism and all of that.
And again, so this would be my message to people on the right.
That's the opportunity.
Listen to what Scott is saying right now.
Put aside petty differences because we got a freaking, in less than one year, we have midterms coming up.
And if the Democrats win, the destruction they will wrought across this country, not only because that's what they literally openly state they want to do.
I mean, they are not proud of this country.
They want to fundamentally alter it.
They do not like capitalism, et cetera, et cetera.
But then you also have Donald Trump in a lame duck period, right?
Without any real control out of the house.
It would be an absolute nightmare.
So take the warning, people.
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You say Minnesota, I say Somalia.
It's all the same, people.
And Donald Trump has had it with people coming to this country, either illegally, which is a big problem, or legally, and they're not integrating properly.
And he is going to do something about it.
Listen to this from Red Wave Press on the Twitter machine.
Just in, the Trump administration has officially halted all immigration applications, including citizenship ceremonies for people from 19 countries.
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services policy memorandum, effective immediately.
This memorandum directs U.S. citizenship and immigration services personnel to place a hold on all Form 1589 or I-589 application for asylum and withholding of removal, regardless of the alien's country of nationality, pending a comprehensive review.
Two, place a hold on pending benefits requests for aliens from countries listed in Presidential Proclamation 10949, restricting the entry of foreign nationals to protect the United States from foreign terrorists and other national security and public safety threats pending a comprehensive review regardless of entry date.
And three, conduct a comprehensive re-review of approved benefit requests for aliens from countries listed in PP 10949 who entered the United States honor after January 20th, 21.
Now, that's the interesting date there because you know what happened on that date.
That was the first day of the Biden administration.
And we simply still do not know how many people came in, right?
We hear estimates of 10, 15.
I think the highest estimate I've heard is 21 million people in four years.
That's more people than most countries on earth.
It is an untenable number.
You have no idea how many of those people, even if 90% of 20 million people are great human beings that are productive and functional and everything else.
First off, they're illegal, but putting that aside for a second, that means 10% of the 20 million people, that's a pretty significant number, right?
That's about 2 mil are bad guys.
And if only 10%, I do this math all the time, it means that there's probably a lot of bad people here.
And we've only kicked out, even though Trump is doing everything he can, and we'll have more from home in a second.
They've only booted about 650,000 people in 10 months.
So I would say to Trump, you got to keep going on this thing.
You've got to keep going.
But at the very least, shut down the border.
And now we are pausing on 19 countries and trying to figure out who is here.
Again, if you think about the country like your house, you cannot fix the rest of your neighborhood or anything else if you don't know who is in your house.
How did they get in your house?
Do the locks work?
Are they just putting a ladder up and climbing in upstairs and hanging out there and you don't even know that they are there?
And then they're eating your food and you're going, where's all my food?
Like that, we have to deal with our shit first.
And then we can be good.
The American people are good and are not isolationists and want to help people when and where we can, but not at the expense of America.
One of the people who's become the avatar for this absolute lunacy is a woman who married her brother, which is a violation of federal immigration law.
Her name is Ilhan Omar from Minnesota, and Trump doesn't like her very much.
donald j trump
We could go one way or the other, and we're going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into our country.
Ilan Omar is garbage.
She's garbage.
Her friends are garbage.
These aren't people that work.
These aren't people that say, let's go.
Come on, let's make this place great.
unidentified
These are people that do nothing but complain.
donald j trump
They complain.
And from where they came from, they got nothing.
You know, they came from paradise and they said this isn't paradise.
But when they come from hell and they complain and do nothing but bitch, we don't want them in our country.
Let them go back to where they came from and fix it.
dave rubin
You know, I have to say, when I was watching that clip this morning, I was thinking, you know, is this a little bit of like the part of Trump that people don't like, you know, calling people garbage?
Like, is it a bit much?
And then I watched the clip two or three times this morning.
And then having watched it again just now, in a weird way, I think that's actually Trump at his best.
Because what he's saying something deeply true.
Why is it that people have come from terrible places?
Somalia is a pretty terrible place with unbelievable sectarian violence that they're now importing into Minnesota, that doesn't have freedoms, that women are treated horribly.
Don't ask about the gays and other minorities and blah, blah, blah.
Like, why do you come from there?
And then you come here and you bitch and you moan and you complain about our services and you drain the system as opposed to, and by the way, that's not every single Somali, obviously, but there are people who come here.
Senegal is a great example of it.
And most of the people that come here from Senegal happen to be black.
They come here and they bust their asses, probably like your ancestors did.
And they work real hard and they don't ask for handouts and everything else.
And they understand that they fled that place to come to this magical place that we are at.
And then they produce and they actually create value.
So we showed you that chart the other day about net value that various people from different countries bring.
And Somalis, basically, it's about a million dollar deficit per Somali that comes to America in terms of economic value because they are taking without producing a lot.
There are plenty of other people that come from all other countries in the world that produce a lot.
So in a weird way, even though, yes, the language, okay, do you want the president calling people garbage or whatever, like I'm past that.
I'm just past that personally.
Like Trump is Trump and he says true things often in a bit of a loose way, let's say.
And well, here he is on that exact point.
donald j trump
I don't want them in our country, I'll be honest with you.
Somebody would say, oh, that's not politically correct.
I don't care.
I don't want them in our country.
Their country is no good for a reason.
Their country stakes, and we don't want them in our country.
I could say that about other countries, too.
dave rubin
Yeah, I like the dismissiveness there.
I'm not going to be politically correct.
And you know, it's also interesting.
Trump loves success more than anything else.
What Trump doesn't like are woe-was me people.
Like, think about somebody walking into the Oval Office that's doing something.
One thing that's so obvious about Trump is he likes success.
He likes builders.
He likes creators.
He doesn't even have to like, this is my general sense of him.
He doesn't have to like exactly what you're doing, but he likes people that are passionate and doing something.
So the thing that the obvious opposite of that would be that the thing that he hates most are lazy people.
This is a guy who's busting his ass.
You can actually see he's a little tired right now, and it's well deserved.
The guy could use a couple days off, I think.
But it's like he's still working, working, working, working.
It's almost impossible to picture Trump not working.
So he's telling you something very true.
He doesn't like when people come here, then bitch and moan about our country, then get on all of these extra services, which then, of course, once you're on those services, the Democrats are usually providing those services, so you end up being a Democrat.
But that's a secondary thing.
At the psychological level, Donald Trump does not like people who demand things from the system.
He likes people who build.
And that is now a notion that I think is proliferating throughout the entire administration.
It's a winning message for America.
Like, come here and pursue happiness.
Don't expect shit.
And Marco Rubio, our Secretary of State, who I think potentially could be the next president of the United States, here he is talking about, yeah, we are allowed to protect our borders and our culture and figure out who's here and why they're here and the rest of it.
marco rubio
It's look, the bottom line is there is no effective way to allow hundreds of thousands of people to enter any country in the world and not face consequences.
You take 100,000 people from anywhere in the world, and you're going to have some percentage of them that turn out bad, either to turn into criminals or potentially terrorists.
I think that threat is heightened when you come from places that have terrorist movements that would target these people for radicalization once they enter our country.
dave rubin
Again, guys, obvious and true.
And it's the common sense thing.
It's what Scott Jennings is talking about.
You can clearly and cleanly explain this stuff.
And if someone, it's just hard for me to imagine that someone would be watching that and go, that's not right.
We all know that that's right.
And it's funny because he just said 100,000 people.
No country in the world could take 100,000 people.
Except we think we might have about 20 million people.
So if you took in 100,000 people and 10% of them turned out to be bad, what are you at?
You're at about 10,000 people.
And if 10% of those 10,000 who were bad were seriously bad, you're at about 1,000 people.
1,000 people that are really, really bad can do some horrible things.
And then if you took the worst of the worst of the worst, you got the numbers already.
Like, you get it, right?
Of course you get it.
But Minneapolis has become, Dearborn's probably ground zero for this.
That's Rashida Talib.
Minneapolis, they're probably running neck and neck.
That's Ilhan Omar's district.
They got this mayor, Jacob Fry, which is the craziest thing.
This guy is the worst sort of pathetic, pandering, ridiculous, progressive put.
put that, do something with that, would you?
And he somehow beat this guy, Omar Fattah, because who is Somali, but there was an inter-Somali war and they liked the fray guy more than, anyway, here he is giving a press conference talking about how he will not cooperate with ISIS.
And then he busts out into apparently his native dialect, which is Somali.
unidentified
That's not American.
That's not what we are about.
And we're going to do right by every single person in our cities.
And so to our Somali community.
Daman Shabka, Somali Aid, Kunul, Minnesota, Garahan, Minneapolis, Waan Kuji, Janila Hai, Waan Ku.
dave rubin
Connor, could you translate that for me?
Does anyone here speak, Joseph?
Could you a little Somali?
Anything?
I assume he said you're illegal, you got to go?
Oh, no, probably.
We don't need to translate it.
Do you understand what they're doing?
What he said was, we are here to protect every person.
He didn't say every citizen.
He said every person.
So he is telling you that his job, as he speaks in another language, is to protect people who are not citizens of the United States.
In a normal functional society, that man should not be allowed to be mayor.
And by the way, let me read you section 118, USC 11A, which is a summary of the legal code as it relates to what you're allowed to do when you're a mayor or a governor when it comes to immigration.
Listen to this.
Whoever by force or threat thereof assaults, resists, opposes, impedes, intimidates, or otherwise interfere with any officer or employee of the United States while such officer is engaged in the lawful performance of official duties shall be subject to fine or imprisonment or imprisonment pursuant to federal law.
Okay, you get that?
So when they say we will not cooperate with ICE, we will not have our police work with them.
We will hide these people.
They have an app where they are literally telling people where ICE is so they can move them and everything else.
And he's clearly in on it.
He's breaking federal law.
So when Trump really, really wants to get serious about it, it's not just Ilhan Omar he's going to have to go after for banging her brother.
It's also going to be this guy.
And it's going to be the police chief of Minneapolis because here he is literally warning people, giving people ways out if ICE shows up in their neighborhood.
brian ohara
Folks that are mask, that they're not sure if they're law enforcement, that they may be kidnapping people.
Like we have had those reports.
I want to be clear to the community.
The community should know that if you see something like that that is legitimate, that you don't know if someone is law enforcement, you should call 911 and you should provide as much information as possible because let's not forget we very recently had tragedy in this state by someone who is who is purporting to be law enforcement.
So please let's be clear.
That's something everyone should report and that we will immediately respond.
unidentified
All right.
I will try to give the devil his due here.
dave rubin
Yes, if someone is trying to kidnap somebody, some random person is trying to kidnap somebody, then yes, call 911, obviously.
But he's doing this to the backdrop of the implication of what he is doing is that if ICE shows up, call 911.
He basically wants the police to be his local police, of which he is in charge, to be at war with the federal government and the ICE agents.
Here's Tom Homan on that police chief.
tom homan
Look, I'll say the same thing I said to other chiefs of police in Sanctuary City.
Shame on you.
I mean, your number one responsibility is the safety and security of your communities.
And ICE is targeting criminals.
Criminals.
So for you not to partner with ICE to make your community safer is shameful.
He ought to put his badge in the desk drawer and walk away because he stopped being a cop, become a politician.
dave rubin
Yeah, that's the line.
He stopped becoming a cop and he became a politician.
That is right.
What is it?
I know nothing about that police chief, but it's like, dude, when you were in the academy or before that, when you were a kid and you were like, I wanted to be a police officer, was the idea in your head, your seventh grader, thinking about what you want to be when you're older, like, I want to be a police officer so I can help illegal people here hide from the federal government?
Or was it probably that you watched some movie and police officers were pretty cool and you were like, I want to wear that uniform.
I want to help people who need it.
Which one was it?
So what happened to you, dude?
Well, politics happened to you.
And it's embarrassing and it's sad and pathetic for the people of Minneapolis.
We will put them aside for a moment and we will jump across the world to Russia and Ukraine where there's some good stuff happening thanks to Donald Trump in just a second.
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All right, so let's jump across the world.
Enough with little Somalia in Minnesota.
Let's jump over to Russia-Ukraine because some good things are happening over there.
Here is Secretary of State Marco Rubio giving an update on a possible, possible, possible, who the hell knows peace deal.
marco rubio
There's more work to be done.
This is delicate.
It's complicated.
There are a lot of moving parts.
And obviously, there's another party involved here that'll have to be a part of the equation.
And that'll continue later this week when Mr. Woodkoff travels to Moscow.
Although we've also been in touch to varying degrees with the Russian side, but we have a pretty good understanding of their views as well.
So much work remains, but today was, again, a very productive and useful session where I think additional progress was made.
And we continue to be realistic about how difficult this is, but optimistic, particularly given the fact that as we've made progress, I think there is a shared vision here that this is not just about ending the war, which is very important.
It is about securing Ukraine's future, a future that we hope will be more prosperous.
dave rubin
Realistic but optimistic.
That's a good line.
You know, I always say to my, people always say to me, are you an optimist?
I always say, I'm a world-weary optimist, right?
Like, I don't think I can do this for a living and talk about this stuff all the time and pay attention to it without being an optimist.
Like, if I didn't think that you could angle the world a little bit better, like, how could I do this?
It would be utterly impossible.
I'd lose my mind, right?
So what he's saying is you got to be realistic, but you got to hope, right?
You don't just go put on rose-colored glasses and, oh, my God, everything's just going to be wonderful.
No, you got to be realistic and optimistic that you can do something.
And if you think about it, now they're sending Kushner and Witkoff over there.
These are the same guys that brokered the peace in the Middle East.
No one's dying right now in the Middle East.
There are no rockets being shot into Israel.
Israel isn't going into Gaza.
There is a new border, a yellow line that has separated the people.
There's some reconstruction.
It doesn't mean that peace is going to be magical.
It doesn't mean that everything's going to be great forever.
But it wrapped up.
And I would also say, because I mentioned some of the infighting on the right, a lot of it seems to have to do with Trump's foreign policy.
And it's like Trump is using the strength, a peace-through-strength attitude of the United States to wrap up wars.
Does anyone think Trump is trying to invade countries and trying to topple regimes and trying to build nations or anything else?
No, he's actually, through American strength, he's wrapping things up so that the Middle East will be more peaceful.
And perhaps that will now happen here with Russia and Ukraine.
Here's a bit more from Rubio on what the other side of this could look like.
marco rubio
The end goal is obviously not just the end of the war.
Obviously, that's central and fundamental.
We want to see the end of the killing and the death and the suffering.
And I'm sure the Ukrainian side, I know they do as well.
They want peace.
But it's also about securing an end to the war that leaves Ukraine sovereign and independent and with an opportunity of real prosperity.
So this is not just about ending a war.
This is about ending a war in a way that creates a mechanism and a way forward that will allow them to be independent and sovereign, never have another war again, and create tremendous prosperity for its people.
dave rubin
Long story short, too long, don't read, we're trying, right?
It's not going to be easy.
The borders might shift a little bit, which they likely will, which you can go back to my videos two years ago, and that's what I was saying was likely going to be the end of this thing.
Ukraine was never going to beat Russia militarily.
There was no amount of stuff we could give them or money we could throw that was going to beat Russia, who has nukes at the end.
So Russia is going to get some territorial win.
They're going to have NATO a little bit off their borders.
Ukraine will probably be a little bit smaller, but there are a lot of native Russians in Ukraine.
I don't want to do a whole history lesson of the fall of the Soviet Union, but most of you sort of get that at some level, right?
And there's going to be some difference there.
But what he's really talking about is, but how is there a mechanism to make sure that it's a final deal?
It's like no more of this afterwards.
We're going to sign something.
Here's the new border.
And that's it.
We're not going to do it again.
And interestingly, as Trump has wrapped up eight wars and continues to put pressure on Russia, well, now Putin is even kind of dialing back some of the rhetoric.
Listen to him talking about actually not wanting war with the rest of Europe.
unidentified
We have to translate it into diplomatic language.
One thing is to say that Russia is to say that Russia is not going to attack Europe.
It's funny for us.
It's laughable because we never wanted to attack Europe.
Okay, let's put it in writing.
But there are some people who are not particularly shocked with us.
dave rubin
Okay.
It's funny, you know, hearing some of that in translation, you know, it's like, okay, there's a certain degree of sarcasm in what he's saying or like a little bit of humor, like we were never attacking Europe anyway.
But him getting out there and kind of being like, yeah, we're not going to wreck Europe in the name of this thing is pretty good.
So something seems to be shifting with this.
And as I predicted, I think it's about six months ago.
My guess is we are going to get a peace deal before the midterms.
Trump will need some more wins, right?
He needs some wins.
Otherwise, we're going to likely have a bloodbath and will have very little to do with Trump's policies.
It's just the nature of politics for an incumbent president in midterms.
He's going to need a big win before then.
And I just think this is all going to shake out over the next eight or so months and there will be a win.
But listen to this from Fox.
A White House envoy, Steve Witkoff, is in Moscow and is set to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin Tuesday after a whirlwind weekend of negotiations with Ukraine aimed at securing a peace deal.
All eyes are on Putin as Witkoff and Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump's son-in-law and occasional foreign policy envoy, feel out whether Putin might agree to the 19-point proposal they finalized with Ukrainian counterparts following initial U.S.-Russia talks.
The latest round of diplomacy represents the most active push towards a potential settlement since the full-scale invasion in 2022.
But negotiators acknowledge that significant obstacles remain.
Core disputes over territory, Ukraine's long-term security arrangements, and the conditions for any ceasefire are unresolved.
And officials say progress will depend on whether Putin shows flexibility during this week's meetings.
Both sides said that the talks were productive, but offered no specifics on wish issues, still divide them.
There is a good chance we can make a deal, Trump said.
So, look, a lot of that, some of the language in there even sounds like it could have been applicable to what was going on with Israel and Gaza, right?
Borders, ceasefire.
Not everybody's going to get exactly what they want.
All of those things.
And by the way, who were the people that helped broker the end of the Israel-Gaza war?
Witkoff and Kushner.
So they know how to do this stuff.
Kushner, who was basically the architect of the Abraham Accords.
So there is some movement there.
They have a 19-point plan that Ukraine has signed on to now, right?
Because we said to Ukraine, we're going to stop giving you endless everything.
So Ukraine was running out of leverage.
So my guess is Zelensky was probably not thrilled with the 19 points, but he was like, oh, shit, I better sign this thing or I'm in trouble.
And now they have to bring it to Putin.
And maybe Putin will be like, you know, 14 of the 19 are okay, but I can't deal with these last five.
And then they'll have to hash it out.
That's diplomacy.
That's how it works.
But the core of all of this is that Donald Trump is relentlessly driving the ship or he is driving the car so that the American people won't have to think about all of this foreign nonsense as much.
That's the, again, it's the irony.
The people who are angry at Trump over foreign policy, he's wrapping up these things.
Give the guy a freaking chance.
Here's Marco Rubio about Trump's intentions.
marco rubio
Everything this president does is driven by the American people.
unidentified
Whether you, you don't have to agree with the actual move, but understand the motivation.
marco rubio
The motivation is always you, the American people, and what's good for you, for your family, for the country, and for our economy.
dave rubin
I believe that.
Do you believe that?
I believe Rubio right there.
I really do.
That Trump, when he is making decisions, is thinking about the American people.
He is thinking about, he does not like war.
I think we all obviously know that.
He does really like negotiations.
He likes dealing with people that are difficult.
And you are seeing the fruits of all of that.
It doesn't always mean that you're going to agree with every policy.
It doesn't always mean that everything's going to work out exactly as we want.
But the guy actually is trying in a whole new way and completely has ripped up foreign policy, conventional wisdom, and all of that.
And it seems to me that good things are happening.
And I also think he is going to really, really, over the next 10 months or so, focus on the economy because that foreign policy aside, it's usually about stuff world away.
It doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
But at the end of the day, people want to see that they've got some money in the bank.
They can do some of the things they want to do.
They can afford a home and to build a family and a business and all of those things.
And obviously there's some concern over the economy right now.
Here is Trump talking about Michael and Susan Dell, who are billionaire, billionaire billionaires, and how they are donating $6.25 billion to the Trump Accounts Program for 25 million children.
Just a new way of thinking about how we can start kids right out of the gate to start saving some money for their future.
donald j trump
Giving Tuesday.
I don't know if anybody's heard that one before, but it is indeed Giving Tuesday, one of the biggest days of the year for philanthropy and charitable giving.
And this afternoon, Michael and Susan Dell are committing to one of the largest private donations in American history, which will directly benefit the next generation of American children through the new Trump Accounts Program.
dave rubin
Okay, so what are the Trump accounts?
Well, here is Ted Cruz, who at one time was a big enemy of Donald Trump, now one of his, if not his biggest supporter in all of the Senate, explaining a bit more on what will happen starting this July 4th, literally the day that is our 250th anniversary.
ted cruz
Starting on July 4th, every child in America will have a personal investment account opened for them.
Newborn children will have it seeded with $1,000.
Parents and family and employers can contribute up to $5,000 a year in a tax-advantaged account.
That money will be invested in the S ⁇ P 500 in the stock market, broad-based equity index account.
Take a little girl born next year.
She's born next year.
She has the account opened for her.
$1,000 is automatically seeded.
Her parents, her family, or an employer puts $5,000 a year each year into that account.
If you assume the historic rate of growth of the S ⁇ P 500, which is 7% a year, by the time that little girl is 18, she will have $170,000 in that account.
dave rubin
Guys, I don't think it can be overstated how good this is.
This is what capitalism and personal altruism without fake altruism, without the force of the government doing something is all about.
The Dells did not have to do this.
They're donating a ton of money.
So you're going to seed these accounts.
Then it's going to be tax-benefited, as Ted Cruz just said right there.
So not only does the original money has a tax benefit to it, but your employer, your family can keep putting money in.
And then over time, that money then is invested into the American economy.
So the money can still work.
It doesn't just sit in the account.
It's working for all of those years.
And then 18 years later, you've got this girl who hopefully, if other things kind of work out right and education is cleaned up a bit and everything else, has a correct head on her shoulders and has some cash to go do whatever it is she or he wants to do.
It's pretty great.
Here's Fox explaining a bit more on how there is incredible growth potential of these accounts.
Watch this.
martha maccallum
Sense of where this goes from zero to 2.25 million over the course of 60 years.
That's a pretty nice nest egg for retirement if people continue to put into it.
Your thoughts on this account?
unidentified
Well, you know, on Fox Business, we talk all the time about the importance of time in the market.
Start saving early.
Teach kids why invest.
dave rubin
You guys see how great this is?
So that was the chart that you were seeing there that was starting to go hockey stick was showing that if you start this account, government gives you a thousand bucks and you do the max entered into it each year.
That means your family's going to have to put a little something.
Maybe your business puts in a little something.
18, you're at, what was it, about 180,000 bucks or something like that.
And by the time, and if you don't touch it, now hopefully you're working, you're adding money in over the years, you're doing other things.
But if you don't touch that, I think it said by the time you're 60, it's about $2.2 million.
Now, who knows what $2.2 million will be in 60 years from now with inflation and everything else.
But it's a chance.
It's a chance to have a sort of public, a private Dell, public government partnership to think about investing in America's children in a different way.
This is really good.
It's kind of like peace in the Middle East.
It's kind of like trying for peace with Russia, Ukraine, and everything else, right?
Like, but instead, instead of focusing on all of the positives, we know that a certain set of people who think that Donald Trump is the sun and the moon and the stars and everything revolves around him, they will endlessly, endlessly try to destroy him.
Now let's go back to the view because we are a bludgeon.
We are just punishing you.
That's it.
Here is Whoopee.
She was away for a few days.
She went to Italy to shoot a soap opera.
And she's, well, they weren't so thrilled with America, apparently, according to her.
whoopi goldberg
Well, we had the best time.
unidentified
I will say starring in a fake soap opera sounds so much better than living through the real one.
whoopi goldberg
Well, one doesn't ever stop living in the real one.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
whoopi goldberg
You know, I didn't need to take it with me because everyone there is aware.
Are they?
Are they?
Oh, yeah.
But, you know, this is the thing about other countries.
They've lived through this.
unidentified
Yeah.
whoopi goldberg
They've gone through this.
They know what this is like.
And they're just biding their time saying, when the people decide enough is enough, it will be enough.
And so that's going to take...
unidentified
What a group of horrible people.
dave rubin
Just terrible people.
First off, America is still the jealousy of the world.
There are literally billions, billions with a bee of people who love America and who wish they were in America.
And as always, no one leaves.
But you went to Italy, you poor millionaire sitting with other millionaires at a table, all TV stars.
Sonny is worth $450 million.
You're sitting there bitching and moaning about this place.
If we could just get through this, how many hours did you sit in hair and makeup before they put you out there to spout that utter nonsense?
You ridiculous buffoons.
Whoopee, stop smoking your hair.
Okay, you live in the greatest country in the history of the world.
But we went there and I talked to people.
unidentified
Oh my God, the people of Italy wanted me to get through this.
dave rubin
I hope you'll get through this, whoopee.
It's just ridiculous, but that is what mainstream media is.
And I saw this.
It was sort of interesting.
Barack Obama, you remember him?
He was president for a couple of years.
It's largely destroyed his legacy.
I think he was married to a guy named Mike or something.
Anyway, he was interviewed here and he was asked about what mainstream media does he trust and pay attention to.
unidentified
Is there one outlet out there that you would consider the least bias, sort of the most straight news?
You know, here's the thing.
barack obama
I actually think that the mainstream news still does a very good job of just presenting facts.
dave rubin
What planet is that?
Do we know what planet that was from?
Did they do that from planet Earth?
I have no idea.
What are you talking about?
COVID, Russia, Russia, Russia, Hunter Biden laptop, very fine people, which you pulled the day before the election.
Like we could do this all day long.
The mainstream media does a pretty good job.
What you mean by that?
He doesn't believe that.
What he means is the mainstream media agrees with his political outlook.
So thus they are pretty good.
Like, Barack, couldn't you, if you were just trying, like, but I get it, the people you're talking to are idiots, basically.
But if you were just trying to be a little more honest, you could be like, you know, the mainstream media has screwed up a lot of stuff.
You know, in retrospect, I guess COVID wasn't great.
And, you know, there was some stank around Trump and Russia that maybe didn't quite make sense.
And, you know, like you could, there's a way you could do it that would feel remotely honest, but still you want to sit.
And he's also terrible off the prompter.
No, he really has trouble speaking off the prompter because his mind is not clear.
Well, maybe it's clear on what he thinks, but to convey the propaganda which he wants to get out, I think is more difficult for him when he has to think it through rather than put it on the prompter.
I want to show you one more thing related to mainstream media and their lives, because one of the big stories on X over the last couple of days is that the New York Times wrote an insane hit piece on David Sachs.
David Sachs is not only a friend of mine, but he's co-hosted the all-in podcast.
Now he's on temporary hiatus as he is the White House AI and crypto czar.
Listen to this from the New York Times.
Silicon Valley's man in the White House is benefiting himself and his friends.
David Sachs, the Trump administration's AI and crypto czar, has helped formulate policies that aid his Silicon Valley friends and many of his own tech investments.
And it was just an unbelievable hit job, scary black and white picture and everything else.
David Sachs, first off, he divested in almost all of his cryptocurrency to be part of this administration.
I have to tell you, as someone that started a tech company, Locals, which David actually invested in, and you know why David invested in it?
He invested in it because I met his wife.
I met him and his wife at a party and I had no idea who he was.
This was a couple of years ago.
And his wife, lovely Lady Jacqueline, comes up to me and she's going on, Dave, I'm a big fan, blah, blah, blah, blah.
We talk for a while.
I take a picture with the two of them.
Some guy comes up to me after and he goes, oh, you know David Sachs?
He's great.
I was like, I don't know.
Who is that?
Some guy, he said his name was David.
And he's like, oh, well, it's this legendary tech guy, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, I get on the phone with Sachs a couple days later.
I explain what we're doing with locals and I'm fighting for free speech.
He looks at the numbers quick.
And within five minutes, he invested in what we were doing because he believed in, he's like, Dave, I like you.
I believe in free speech.
Let's try it.
And that opened up so many doors for us.
I know him to be nothing other than a good man.
But what does the New York Times do if you are a good person and if you divest yourself from as much as you can to be crypto and AIs?
Is it going to help?
Is David Sachs, who is bullish on crypto and AI, inherently, so it's his job to figure out policy related around that?
Is that going to be good for some of the people in his world, like Elon and others?
Well, of course it is.
And it's good for everybody, right?
Because everyone can get in the crypto and AI game.
Everyone can be part of it.
And you can put a few dollars aside every day and buy some Bitcoin or whatever you want to do.
So they just run these absolutely insane stories and no one's buying it anymore.
unidentified
Here is friend of David Sachs, Elon Musk.
elon musk
The whole thing's probably crazy.
I mean, the media is incredibly partisan.
I mean, they're not.
I mean, almost all the media is left-shifted.
unidentified
Yeah.
elon musk
So it's kind of weird.
If you talk to somebody who gets all their information from what I call legacy media, they're living in a different world than if they, say, are listening to your podcast or getting the news from X.
It's kind of wild.
It is very wild.
It's like they're living in an ultimate reality.
unidentified
Oh, there's a lot of people that I talk to that I have to go, where did you hear that?
Yeah.
dave rubin
You know, it's really interesting because I know, obviously, you're familiar with that notion before, and I talk about it all the time.
Like, we're all watching the same movie and just seeing two completely different things.
That's an idea that I got from Scott Adams.
I think it's quite right.
Like, you just, if your neighbor is paying attention to mainstream media and you're getting all your stuff from X or watching this show, you guys have a fundamental disconnect in reality.
We all get that.
By the way, it doesn't mean that just because you get all your news from X or you watch Rogan or you watch me or anything else, that you are getting everything right.
You obviously aren't.
And it's very hard to tell.
One of the things that I struggle with all the time is it's very hard to tell how much what's happening online is actually translating into the real world.
It used to be that social media was a mirror.
It's become a bit of a funhouse mirror now and it's algorithmically manipulated.
And we talked last week about all of the foreign bots and trolls and these accounts that pretend they're American, that have hundreds of thousands of followers, and it turns out they're in Pakistan or elsewhere.
So there's all sorts of craziness around here.
But at the end of the day, more voices countering the lies of the mainstream media, which Barack Obama seems to think are pretty good, I think is pretty solid.
Like more is better.
How about that?
Speaking of more, we've got more post-game show in just moments at rubinreport.locals.com.
I thank you for watching.
We'll be back tomorrow.
unidentified
When I first met this guy, the pirate from movie Captain Phillips, you know, the one that says, look at me, I'm the captain now.
I thought he was kind of hot, you know, all malnourished.
But I cannot sleep with money if he's not my brother.
So I go to ancestry.com to see if he related to me and bam, I find out he is my brother.
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