Oct. 15, 2025 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| I'm pissed about what happened there. | ||
| It should have never been able to happen. | ||
| It's a travesty that it did. | ||
| The whole country was lied to in the aftermath by Kimberly Cheadle coming out and saying, you know, they didn't have counter-sniper teams on the rooftop because there was too much slope. | ||
| And yet the roof was like this. | ||
| Like you had like, you know, Jerry, you had old men walking across the rooftop from Congress two days later. | ||
| Like, give me a break. | ||
| We were lied to. | ||
| The fact that somebody got on a roof with a modern day rifle with modern day optics at 130 yards from a former commander in chief and somebody who was very well going to be this commander-in-chief based on polls was insane. | ||
| And they've never gotten to the bottom of it. | ||
| I mean, they got into the cell phones of every January 6th protester, grandmother who walked through the Capitol and took a selfie, but somehow they can't get into the phones, the multiple phones of somebody who tried to assassinate my father. | ||
| And the body was cremated about four days later or five days later. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| Something doesn't feel right. | ||
| And I am wholly unsatisfied. | ||
| And I go into it in pretty great detail in the book. | ||
| All right, I'm Dave Rubin. | ||
| This is the Rubin Report. | ||
| And in this case, it is cliché, but my guest needs no introduction. | ||
| But I will give him an introduction. | ||
| Nonetheless, he is the executive vice president of the Trump organization and author of the new book, Under Siege, My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation. | ||
| Eric Trump, how are you? | ||
| I'm doing well, my friend. | ||
| The books just went to number one in just about every category. | ||
| So I never thought I was going to be an author, but obviously we're making some kind of statement right now in the universe. | ||
| I'm pretty proud of it. | ||
| Is that the ultimate comeuppance for these people that they tried to destroy your family, which obviously is the whole backing of the book, and yet the book has sold well already? | ||
| Is that proof that Trump has won? | ||
| You know, they try and destroy us, and yet we win. | ||
| And, you know, I think people are voting with their pocketbooks at this point. | ||
| And no, it's amazing. | ||
| Again, I never thought I'd be number one in biographies, number one in memoirs, number one in government, number one nationally across every category. | ||
| It's a lot of fun. | ||
| But listen, Dave, I came up with the name two years ago, and they tried everything they could to destroy our company, obviously, which I run. | ||
| I run the Trump organization. | ||
| I run every single one of our family assets. | ||
| I run everything outside of Washington, D.C. They impeached my father the first time. | ||
| They impeached him the second time. | ||
| They made up dirty dossiers. | ||
| I mean, they made up the Russia hoax. | ||
| I was right in the center of that when they said that we had secret servers communicating with the Kremlin. | ||
| They gagged us. | ||
| They tried to silence us. | ||
| They threw us off of every social media platform, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. | ||
| They weaponized every DA and every AG in this country to come after us. | ||
| I became the most subpoenaed person in American history, 112 subpoenas for doing absolutely nothing wrong. | ||
| I was a far crying, my friend from Hunter Biden, who has a laptop from hell and cocaine and heroin and prostitution. | ||
| And yet they wanted to kill us. | ||
| They wanted to debank us. | ||
| And I had the title under siege. | ||
| And then I saw what happened at Butler. | ||
| And I saw what happened 12 weeks later at a golf course I run in Palm Beach when they tried to kill my father the second time. | ||
| And then I saw what happened to our dear friend Charlie Kirk. | ||
| They want to eliminate all of us. | ||
| You, me, all the independent voices, all the loud voices, the Charlie Kirks, the My Fathers. | ||
| They think if they do that, they can win this movement. | ||
| They can destroy this movement. | ||
| And they can't, and they haven't been effective. | ||
| And they just had the biggest political disgrace in American history. | ||
| And I could not be more proud of all of that. | ||
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| So before we get into all of that, I must ask you, since we are of a certain age, the two of us, Under Siege, the title, I mean, is Jean-Claude Van Damme going to come at you for a lawsuit on this thing? | ||
| It's a pretty solid movie. | ||
| The sequel wasn't bad either on the train. | ||
| I mean, how'd you get the best? | ||
| I'm very disappointed. | ||
| It wasn't John Claude. | ||
| It was none other than Stephen Segal. | ||
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Oh, God, sorry. | |
| Yeah, it was the same era. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Now, if I named this Bloodsport, that would have been a great Seagal movie, all right? | ||
| But this is named after none other than the The greatest Steven Seagal, who was who was fantastic. | ||
| And no, listen, I think we all grew up watching Under Siege on the battleship with Gary Busey and the rest of them. | ||
| But Tommy Lee Jones, Tommy Lee Jones was the bad guy. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Okay, man, I just lost all. | ||
| I blew it up. | ||
| Hey, trust me, I was under much bigger siege than that battleship was with, you know. | ||
| Well, all right. | ||
| So let's dive into some of that stuff because, you know, you mentioned right before we started recording that you said to me, moving to Florida was the best thing you ever did. | ||
| And obviously, I very publicly moved to Florida as well. | ||
| But your father, obviously, you guys were in New York originally. | ||
| You've always had Mar-a-Lago and all that. | ||
| But that this place has become the center of freedom. | ||
| And it sort of exemplifies you guys built. | ||
| I lived in New York City. | ||
| I lived on the Upper West with the Trump skyline on the Hudson River and, you know, Midtown and all the stuff. | ||
| I mean, you helped build that city. | ||
| The city's about to turn into a communist nightmare, whatever adjective you want to put to it. | ||
| Is that the perfect example of the divide in the country right now? | ||
| 100%. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Kicking you guys out to go that direction. | ||
| I'm going to think, you know, Letitia James literally had an entire campaign of just, she's going to come in as Attorney General and just come after our family. | ||
| I mean, she said it. | ||
| She said on video, I'm going to go in. | ||
| I'm going to sue the hell out of him. | ||
| I'm going to go into an office in the morning. | ||
| I'm going to sue him. | ||
| I'm going to leave. | ||
| And you know what I did? | ||
| I took the company and I left New York, a state that I absolutely adore. | ||
| I mean, we have skyscrapers all over New York. | ||
| I built a lot of the city. | ||
| My father built the entire city. | ||
| I can't tell you how much my life was dedicated to New York real estate. | ||
| I know it as well as anyone. | ||
| And yet I pulled all our executives out there because I said, I can't do it. | ||
| I had the same thing with one of my kids in school. | ||
| I mean, the indoctrination, the nonsense. | ||
| You know, when my father went to Walter Reed, I talk about in the book, you know, he has COVID. | ||
| And I'll never forget. | ||
| I got a call from the principal, actually a text message from her in the middle of the night. | ||
| You know, she probably had a couple of glasses of wine. | ||
| Don't even think about dropping your kids off at school. | ||
| I go, excuse me? | ||
| Like, why not? | ||
| Our faculty is petrified of getting COVID from your family. | ||
| I go, listen, my father's a Walter Reed, but you know I live in New York. | ||
| I live like 230 miles away from him. | ||
| And I go, this is insane. | ||
| I mean, and the great irony is a week later, she got COVID and had to shut down the entire school. | ||
| But this is the craziness we were dealing with. | ||
| I mean, we were dealing with Alvin Bragg. | ||
| We were dealing with Letitia James. | ||
| They were coming after us. | ||
| They were trying to bankrupt the Trump organization. | ||
| They were trying to get us debanked in every way possible. | ||
| Every day I was getting another subpoena. | ||
| And finally, I just look at Laura and I say, what the hell? | ||
| Why are we still here? | ||
| And honestly, moving to Florida has been the greatest thing I've ever done. | ||
| How was that first round? | ||
| 10 years ago, your dad comes down the escalator. | ||
| He had been through a lot of the battles before, but I know your brother a bit better than I know you. | ||
| How was that for you guys when it really started to turn into hate? | ||
| Because it's one thing for your dad to dive in, having the career he had, been through all the media stuff. | ||
| Obviously, you guys had been on TV and were well known, but you're younger. | ||
| You're still, you have young families, all that stuff. | ||
| Like when it first started, because now you've been through it, so it's easier to talk about. | ||
| But what about that beginning phase when it started going crazy? | ||
| Well, I think honestly, we were all naive, everybody. | ||
| But I do remember when my father called me, he goes, you know, get the kids, bring them up to my office, you know, and, you know, and that's obviously when he told us he was going to run for president. | ||
| He goes, honey, we're, you know, kids, we're going to learn who our true friends are. | ||
| We're going to do so very quickly. | ||
| You know, we're going to learn who our true friends are. | ||
| And we went down that escalator. | ||
| And I think you could safely say that there's probably no one that stood on the stage like I did, right? | ||
| Among anyone. | ||
| I mean, I was on the stage the entire 10 years. | ||
| I was everywhere with him. | ||
| I mean, I did thousands of events and every swing stay I was on TV every single night. | ||
| I never thought they were going to lash out the way they did. | ||
| I mean, he asked me to obviously run the Trump organization, and I thought I'd be building hotels and doing great things. | ||
| Instead, I was keeping the animals off of the company. | ||
| I mean, I literally spent 80% of my time, you know, keeping the Russia hoaxes, all these, this fake nonsense away from our company as they were trying to indict employees for doing absolutely nothing wrong, as they were, you know, calling up every single big bank, Capital One, to try and de-platform us for doing absolutely nothing wrong. | ||
| And they put a siege on our family, but they were also putting a siege on him. | ||
| They were putting a siege on the movement. | ||
| They were putting a siege on our country, all because we dared to stand up and fight for basic things like the Constitution, the First Amendment, freedom of religion, wanting to not get absolutely ripped off by every country around the world, believing in red, white, and blue, thinking that's an absolute disgrace to have people like Colin Kaepernick, you know, kneel for the, you know, the national anthem when you're making $30 million a year and so on and so forth. | ||
| We were a family that did not need politics and we were doing this because we were citing, you know, we're fighting for the heart and soul of this nation and they came after us viciously. | ||
| They wanted to see us in jail. | ||
| They wanted to see us bankrupt. | ||
| They wanted to see us destroyed. | ||
| They wanted to see our family split up and they would use every bit of law enforcement to do it, whether it's raiding Mar-a-Lago, whether it's raiding Melania's closet, whether it's raiding Barron's room, whether it's subpoenaing me. | ||
| You know, we probably spent $400 million in defense of the company on sham cases, all because they were trying to take us out. | ||
| And honestly, Dave, obviously, it didn't work and we won in a spectacular fashion. | ||
| Were there any moments where you thought they actually were going to get you guys on something? | ||
| One moment that I know really turned me because I did not support your dad the first time around. | ||
| I voted for the libertarian candidate, which I totally regret in retrospect. | ||
| But I remember once when I started to come around, it was during the height of the Russian nonsense and there was some congressional hearing about it. | ||
| And you and your brother were live tweeting it. | ||
| And I was like, there is no way that any of this could be legit. | ||
| And they'd be live tweeting about it. | ||
| It would be such a ridiculously legal, insane thing to do. | ||
| I was like, there's just no way. | ||
| But was there any moment that you thought they're going to get him on? | ||
| Not that he did anything, but they'll just figure out a way or they're going to get us or we're going to lose the business or any version of that. | ||
| So many. | ||
| I mean, I sat with my father every day in those courtrooms in New York. | ||
| You know, the Mershon, the Ngorin trials. | ||
| And I'll never forget, you know, I sat there and everybody in that courtroom, every journalist left and right, you know, knew that the case was a sham. | ||
| We've had all of them overturned since. | ||
| And they got up and they read 34 guilty felony counts, guilty, guilty, guilty, 34 times. | ||
| My father stands up, turns around, we shake hands, we walk out of that courtroom. | ||
| We actually went right to a fundraiser. | ||
| That's how hard we are working. | ||
| We'd be in court by day and fundraising and on TV by night. | ||
| But in the car, I'll never forget. | ||
| He goes, honey, I don't know how, but we're going to win this thing. | ||
| And he wasn't just talking about the court case. | ||
| I mean, he was talking about the entire election. | ||
| And I said, we either win the White House or we're all in jail. | ||
| And by the way, Dave, and that's for doing nothing wrong. | ||
| That's the system that was weaponized against us. | ||
| We either win this, we either win the White House. | ||
| It's a White House or a jail cell. | ||
| And that's what they wanted for all of us. | ||
| And here you are a year later, a year and a half later, and we've won every single one of the cases. | ||
| I mean, they also imposed a $600 million penalty on us for doing nothing wrong when every bank that we ever had in a company went in and testified that we're the greatest borrower that they've ever had and that they've never enjoyed an account more than ours. | ||
| And somehow using a crooked judge through a crooked system, they get a $600 million penalty. | ||
| Again, another thing that's totally been reversed by the appellate courts. | ||
| But yeah, there were a lot of dark moments. | ||
| I mean, Butler was another dark moment when I see my father on the ground bleeding, you know, with blood flowing down his face and his arms. | ||
| And, you know, there were a lot of dark moments. | ||
| And exactly 48 hours after that moment, I was the Republican delegate. | ||
| I was a delegate for the state of Florida. | ||
| They made my father the Republican nominee for president of the United States. | ||
| And so you want to talk about highs and lows in the campaign. | ||
| We saw every single one of them. | ||
| That Butler day, so tell me a little bit more on the personal side about that because we all think of him as the president and the leader of the country. | ||
| And he's become sort of an avatar of everything that people either love or hate and all of those things. | ||
| But he's your dad. | ||
| He's the grandfather to your kids. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I go into it in great detail in the book because I'm pissed. | ||
| I'm pissed about what happened there. | ||
| It should have never been able to happen. | ||
| It's a travesty that it did. | ||
| The whole country was lied to in the aftermath by Kimberly Cheadle coming out and saying, you know, they didn't have counter sniper teams on the rooftop because there was too much slope and yet the roof was like this. | ||
| Like you had like, you know, Jerry, you had old men walking across the rooftop from Congress two days later. | ||
| Like, give me a break. | ||
| We were lied to. | ||
| The fact that somebody got on a roof with a modern day rifle with modern day optics at 130 yards from a former commander in chief and somebody who was very well going to be this commander-in-chief based on polls was insane. | ||
| And they've never gotten to the bottom of it. | ||
| I mean, they got into the cell phones of every January 6th protester, grandmother who walked through the Capitol and took a selfie, but somehow they can't get into the phones, the multiple phones of somebody who tried to assassinate my father. | ||
| And the body was cremated about four days later or five days later. | ||
| I mean, I don't know, something doesn't feel right. | ||
| And I am wholly unsatisfied. | ||
| And I go into it in pretty great detail in the book. | ||
| How did you explain what happened to your kids or what kind of conversations were there around that sort of thing? | ||
| Well, my kids were sitting on my lap. | ||
| We were at home. | ||
| I was working on email and obviously it was in the background. | ||
| You'll remember that was the, you know, Butler was, all the channels were speculating that that's when he was going to pick his vice president. | ||
| So everybody was live streaming it. | ||
| And my kids were on the lap and they're watching grandpa as they see him go down and they see the blood. | ||
| And Laura grabbed them and ran them into the other room. | ||
| And I'm sitting there. | ||
| My face is practically touching the TV screen. | ||
| I mean, I'm trying to see if he has chest wounds. | ||
| I'm trying to see if, you know, he's wearing a dark suit. | ||
| So, you know, you get hit in a certain spot, you're not going to you're not going to be able to see it because of the dark color of your suit. | ||
| You're not going to be able to see the blood. | ||
| And and, you know, I mean, thank God he turned his head when he did. | ||
| But again, you know, I remain wholly unsatisfied about what happened there. | ||
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| Is is some of the irony is it just baked into the equation, meaning you mentioned the Biden family before and we could talk about the auto pen and the corruption, the corruption and the cover up around his mental health and Ukraine and all of those things. | ||
| But also the family stuff versus you guys who I feel like I know decently. | ||
| Well, the last time I saw you is probably about six months ago at Mar-a-Lago because you guys do curativity and you take care of all of these kids that have cancer. | ||
| I mean, it's it was one of the most wonderful events I've been to in the last couple of years, like seemingly such a good group of people. | ||
| And that's such a complete stark difference between the Biden thing. | ||
| And yet you're treated in completely the reverse ways. | ||
| Like it's almost it's almost beyond it's beyond the pale in a sense. | ||
| Well, I mean, I think I took four cases up to the Supreme Court over the emoluments clause. | ||
| And I'm laughing about that. | ||
| You know, you sold a glass of wine to somebody at market rates who walked into Trump International Hotel, sat down the bar. | ||
| You didn't know who they were. | ||
| Or, you know, emoluments clause, emoluments clause. | ||
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Right. | |
| And yet, you know, I've never seen some have somebody have so many entities for, you know, somebody that doesn't have a business like what does Hunter Biden do? | ||
| Like, what does Joe Biden do? | ||
| Like what what product do they have? | ||
| Like, you know what I do? | ||
| I sell hotel rooms. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, we're in the golf business. | ||
| We're in the commercial real estate business. | ||
| We're in, you know, we're in residential and everything else. | ||
| I mean, what product are they selling? | ||
| Why do you need, you know, dozens of entities that are all linked in kind of clandestine ways? | ||
| You know, this this web of entities. | ||
| What's he selling? | ||
| Like, where's Hunter Biden's website? | ||
| I know he's selling very expensive paintings for access for his dad. | ||
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Right. | |
| I mean, you know what? | ||
| I'm sure I could be a phenomenal painter. | ||
| I ought to start finger painting and maybe I should start selling paintings right now. | ||
| And and by the way, if I start selling paintings right now, I'm sure the media would have no problem with it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If I if I found some nice Chinese national and sold them a nice painting for a million dollars, I'm sure the media would be a OK with it. | ||
| Because I'm a wonderful artist. | ||
| I mean, give me a break. | ||
| No one buys it. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| It was the greatest cover up. | ||
| But but Dave, here's what I'll tell you. | ||
| And I say this all the time and no one's focused on this. | ||
| The media has lost all their juice. | ||
| If you go back to 2016, the media had real power. | ||
| The media has no power anymore. | ||
| And that's because of independent voices like you. | ||
| And because I was willing to stand on the stage and people like my father and people like Charlie Kirk and the Joe Rogans of the world. | ||
| And, you know, you know, Patrick David's of the world and so many guys who have loud, independent voices that aren't controlled by anybody will say whatever's on their mind will say whatever's right. | ||
| right at the right time the media is so diminished that in 2024 the democrats don't have the same they don't have the same game plan before before they could they could call up and say you know what trump is colluding with russia and guess what nbc abc they would they would all run that for for years on end you know trump colluded with russia and we would have to dig ourselves out of this horrible hole that was just totally false and defamatory and they could get away with it the reality is no one listens to the mainstream media anymore. | ||
| We've we've killed them. | ||
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I mean does your dad does your dad like that? | |
| I assume your dad agrees with that, but he obviously still likes poking the bear, you know, making fun of CNN or Jimmy Kimmel or that kind of stuff. | ||
| So does he does he like just like the idea of it still more than the sort of grip that they have over everyone's minds? | ||
| I mean, I think we all kind of struggle with that. | ||
| I don't think he likes Pokémon the Bear. | ||
| I don't think he likes Pokemon the Bear. | ||
| I think he freaking loves Pokemon the Bear, especially at this point. | ||
| I mean, I did a few weeks ago. | ||
| I put it on the Trump 2028 hat. | ||
| I posted a picture with nothing else said. | ||
| I mean, people went crazy. | ||
| Elon's retweeting it. | ||
| Everybody's retweeting the thing. | ||
| And the media is going crazy. | ||
| They're melting down. | ||
| Does this mean that you plan to subvert democracy? | ||
| Like, I'm literally just trolling the mainstream media and having a great time doing it. | ||
| But, you know, it shows how kind of gullible they are. | ||
| It also shows who they are and exactly the fact that they really are the lobbyist party for the Democrats. | ||
| And they've lost all their power. | ||
| And so, you know, first term, it was very hard. | ||
| Like, you know, they started a narrative. | ||
| It was very hard to beat that narrative off you. | ||
| Now it's like they can't even start a narrative. | ||
| They don't have enough respect anymore. | ||
| People don't trust them. | ||
| They don't have the hearts and minds of the American people because the American people realize that they've been lied to over and over and over again. | ||
| And it actually is making my father so much more effective in 2024. | ||
| He was so effective in 2016, but he's also throwing so much lead in the air right now that they literally can't counter narrative it. | ||
| So between that and not having a coherent media and having the weakest Democratic party probably in history, he's just having a field day and doing great, incredible things. | ||
| I mean, this is going to sound like almost to like pat everybody on the back, but do you think he is better now than he's ever been? | ||
| I mean, I watch him now and his, it's not only the policies, which I've basically across the board have been, I think, phenomenal, but the way he responds to the media now, the way he's not taking the bait on certain things still will hit them when needed. | ||
| Like it seems like he's just measured it out and it's pretty damn perfect. | ||
| We went into Washington in 2017. | ||
| We didn't know what a delegate was. | ||
| I mean, Dave, we built hotels. | ||
| I remember a 22-year-old staffer came up to me, sir, we'd like you to speak at the Iowa caucuses in two days. | ||
| And I was campaigning all over the state. | ||
| No problem, guys. | ||
| Happy to speak anywhere. | ||
| Put me on any stage. | ||
| Give me a microphone. | ||
| I'm happy to speak. | ||
| But what the hell is a caucus? | ||
| Can somebody finally get somebody? | ||
| That's not what we did, right? | ||
| But yet, yet we had an amazing voice. | ||
| Yet, you were able to speak about a person you really loved. | ||
| America saw a family on that stage, not just a candidate. | ||
| They saw love and they saw fight and they saw work ethic. | ||
| And that ultimately won the day. | ||
| And there's no question we've all matured. | ||
| I've matured in a major way. | ||
| I know what fights to pick, what fights to not. | ||
| I have a level of confidence that I never had before. | ||
| And clearly, my father does as well. | ||
| One other thing, losing in 2020, and I say losing, right? | ||
| Because it's, give me a break. | ||
| No one actually believes that Joe Biden got 16 million more votes than Barack Obama did in 2012, a guy who didn't leave a basement, like a guy who couldn't put together a coherent sentence. | ||
| 81 million votes. | ||
| Let's just do this. | ||
| So losing in 2020 was actually the greatest thing that ever happened to us. | ||
| And that now all of a sudden we have the House, we have the Senate, we have a 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court. | ||
| We have obviously the executive branch, but we also, my father has a killer cabinet. | ||
| I mean, these are people who are battle-tested. | ||
| They were the people who were there in the roughest times and never left his side. | ||
| And they're having an absolute field day and they can't be deterred. | ||
| It's very different than 2018 where you had the Rex Tillersons who are running for the Hills and you had the, I mean, I can name 30 of them that spent more time working against my father than they did actually working for the administration, despite how incredibly effective he was during those years. | ||
| And so there's no question that there's a level of maturity. | ||
| There's no question that all the chips are just lined up in a better fashion now. | ||
| And man, the amount he's getting done is awesome to see. | ||
| It's amazing to see. | ||
| So putting the politics aside for a second, on the roller coaster ride of running the businesses, obviously the businesses are even before the lawsuits and everything, you know, your dad became so polarizing. | ||
| How did you manage, okay, we've still got to sell hotel rooms. | ||
| We've got all these other products. | ||
| Now we've got a certain set of the country that's just not going to touch these things that loved it, that loved all these products, you know, four years ago. | ||
| How did you manage just sort of to traverse that landscape? | ||
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| And listen, you had 50% of the country that walked to the end of earth for my father. | ||
| And so listen, there's no question it came with challenging time. | ||
| Were we canceled? | ||
| Did a lot of group business go elsewhere? | ||
| Because frankly, it's obviously we became political, sure. | ||
| But the exact opposite is happening now. | ||
| I think we have the greatest brand in the world. | ||
| I'm so fortunate to run the company. | ||
| We're the best company that we've ever had by a factor of a lot, but they wanted to see us dead. | ||
| I mean, every Fortune 500 CEO of a big bank was calling us up. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| We're canceling your accounts. | ||
| Capital One, Chase, Bank of America. | ||
| They were doing everything that they could to pull the rails out from under us. | ||
| Every attorney general was attacking us and suing us. | ||
| We're getting subpoenaed every single day. | ||
| Tens and tens of millions of dollars or documents in discovery production on every front. | ||
| The raids on Mar-a-Lago, the attacks on our employees, the attacks on me personally and everybody in the family. | ||
| They were trying to divide the family. | ||
| They were trying to split up the family. | ||
| That was the nature of the siege. | ||
| And that's before they turned to physical violence, i.e. | ||
| Butler, i.e. | ||
| the golf course incident, i.e. | ||
| Charlie Kirk, right? | ||
| I mean, they wanted to do anything they could to silence our voice and put us under siege. | ||
| And it's a beautiful story and it's a story that we won. | ||
| And it's a story I'm incredibly proud of. | ||
| I'm not sure how many people would have had the backbone and tenacity to fight through what my father fought through and fight through what we fought through. | ||
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| I know we've only got a couple of minutes left. | ||
| Do you miss that DC hotel? | ||
| Because the vibe in that hotel during your dad's first go-around was so absolutely electric. | ||
| And it's a Waldorf now. | ||
| It's a perfectly nice hotel, but it's just not the same. | ||
| Do you miss that at all? | ||
| Everybody tells me that Eric is not the same. | ||
| Eric is not the same. | ||
| That was like the one bastion of conservative thought in all of Washington, D.C. So people just flopped to it. | ||
| It became a frat party every night of the greatest people in the world. | ||
| And no, I very much do. | ||
| And hopefully we'll be back in some way, shape, or form in D.C. with some hospitality in the future. | ||
| But no, no question, I miss it. | ||
| And it was a great place during the first term. | ||
| Let me ask you one other thing, not book related, but sort of politics related, which is that I'm completely on board what you said before. | ||
| The Democrat Party's been demolished. | ||
| There's so many good things coming out of the administration. | ||
| We're seeing a certain amount of infighting on the right right now, which I think most of us are trying to calm everybody down. | ||
| But there is some fighting there. | ||
| I want what your dad created, this incredible wide tent, MAGA. | ||
| If you love America, you're in. | ||
| We can set aside some of the differences. | ||
| Are you seeing some of that? | ||
| And what do you think we can do to calm it down? | ||
| Because I think you and your brother outside of your dad could really help put this thing together. | ||
| Yeah, there's no question. | ||
| Listen, Republicans have always been interesting. | ||
| Democrats always just march in lockstep. | ||
| Republicans so oftentimes came out of business, came out of small business, were independent thinkers, had careers before politics, typically didn't just go right in. | ||
| And so many of them are type A people and they believe in their way or the highway. | ||
| And that's not a bad thing. | ||
| I certainly do as well in my own life and you probably do in your career. | ||
| But oftentimes it's harder to bring those people together when their entire lives they've built incredible buildings and incredible industries and incredible careers and professions and everything else, doing whatever they did the way they did it. | ||
| And so all of a sudden you have to follow the horse in front of you, the donkey in front of you. | ||
| Democrats are great at that. | ||
| The Republicans are really bad at that and they traditionally have been. | ||
| But I will say we have the most united Republican Party that we've ever had before. | ||
| My father's killed more rhinos than anybody in the history of rhino hunting. | ||
| I mean, go back to the Ben Sasse days. | ||
| Go back to the Paul Ryan days. | ||
| Go back to the Mitt Romney days. | ||
| I mean, let's go through all of them, the McCain days and the Cheney days. | ||
| And my father has a perfect rhino hunting record. | ||
| So I think we have got the strongest Republican Party ever. | ||
| And one other thing, he's actually created a party that's willing to fight and willing to be loud and won't back down and won't put up with nonsense. | ||
| They have backbone. | ||
| It's very different than the Republican Party that you and I grew up under in this country, which was pretty much irrelevant and had no juice and had no message and had no love. | ||
| And it certainly wasn't a movement. | ||
| It was not the movement that Make America Great Again is. | ||
| The book is under siege, and I never thought I'd have to end an interview with Eric Trump by apologizing to Stephen Seagal, but here we are. | ||
| It was good to see you, my friend. | ||
| Hopefully I'm making you very proud. | ||
| I cannot believe I butchered that. | ||
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