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Bill Maher’s Crowd Stunned as Van Jones Gives a Brutal Message to Liberal Media

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00:32

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dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if the glue that they are putting your eyelashes on is seeping into your brain, but you are an idiot.
		You just beheaded that guy?
		You're supposed to give head, not behead.
		Remember January 6th?
		That was the day that I had just switched over.
		I'd been chewing eggs with olive oil, and I switched back to real hard that morning.
		And then I was watching TV and people were freaking out because a few people with a Lego set or something showed up at the Capitol.
		Anyway, let's talk about boner pills for a minute and then we'll move on the other side.
		Sidney Sweeney's bath water here.
		Pretty good.
		All right, everybody.
		Happy Monday.
		How you doing?
		I'm Dave Rubin.
		This is the Rubin Report.
		It is October 6th, 2025.
		And yes, Australia, in about a week and a half, I will be in you, DaveRubin.com/slash events.
		Join us for live Rubin Report episodes and bouncing around the country and doing all sorts of crazy hijinks down under.
		And I should put a little warning before today's show.
		It's October 6th.
		Today is Luke's third birthday.
		We celebrated yesterday.
		I had a lot of ice cream.
		I had a lot of cake.
		I've been basically off the sugar.
		I don't know how that's going to affect me on today's program.
		I'm going to try.
		I'm extracaffeinated to stay focused, but anything could happen at any point.
		And the show today, as I just noted when we were doing the run-through, it's pretty intense.
		So I hope you're ready for an intense show because we're doing sort of, well, is the West going to survive?
		That's the theme today.
		And there's a lot of signs that the West is not going to survive.
		Sorry, spoiler alert.
		But I think that there's a lot of good people out there.
		And I think we are trying to fight for the right things.
		And I do think we still have a chance.
		It's just going to take some work.
		So why don't we start because it is a Monday on Fridays, real time with Bill Maher.
		He had Van Jones on.
		And I think you guys know my feelings about Van Jones.
		He's a lefty, but he is in that small crew of people that is not completely insane.
		He gets most things wrong or, you know, a year later says what we're all saying or all that kind of stuff.
		But he's not a wackadoodle progressive.
		He's not like a crazed racist.
		He doesn't hate the West or capitalism or any of those things.
		Okay, fine.
		And he went on real time on Friday night and they were talking about, Bill actually brought it up that there actually is a real-time genocide happening, but it's not the one that the media and the lefties keep pretend is pretending is happening.
		It's of it's happening to Christians in Nigeria who are being slaughtered by jihadists.
		And they got into that, and I think you'll see why this will frame the show nicely, because so much of what we talk about only depends, at least from a mainstream perspective, only depends on whether it fits the narrative.
unidentified		Go.
bill maher ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about young people.
		A lot of them seem to know one thing.
		White people did some very bad things in this world, and they certainly did.
		But there are other things to know.
unidentified		Yes.
van jones ▲ ● ▼		And including the fact that in Sudan right now, which nobody is talking about, you have Arab militia murdering people by the wheelbarrow, including the fact that Africa right now is being overrun by Islamist terrorists, including Boko Rob, with no conversation about that at all.
bill maher ▲ ● ▼		I did it last week.
		Nigeria.
		Yeah, I mean, this is an actual planned genocide.
van jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
bill maher ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they really want to kill all the Christians in that country, and they are systematically doing it.
van jones ▲ ● ▼		And the fact that there's almost no response from the global left and no attention from mainstream media is a crime against African people, black people, and human rights.
		I agree with that 100%.
		It turns out that there's a double standard for Jews.
		That is true.
		No Jews, no news.
		As long as you can put the Jewish state in the conversation, it's going to be a big conversation.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		you can't you get no attention at all this is a big okay so first off I should have a bit of a mea culpa here because we're going to talk about what's going on in Nigeria obviously for a second but But I have not talked about it on this show.
		There's been a lot of other things going on.
		I've tweeted about it a couple of times, but I haven't brought it up.
		But now we are going to bring it up and we'll compare it to the way the media reacts when it comes to, as Van Jones pointed out, no Jews, no news.
		So over 7,000 Christians have been killed in Nigeria just in the last little while.
		Basically 35 Christians killed per day because of their religion.
		It's these jihadists that are hunting them down.
		And one of the problems that, well, that in and of itself is a problem, right?
		When people are just being killed for their religion and they just want to live and they've lived in these communities forever.
		But from a media perspective, that's what I'm always interested in is the media perspective around this.
		And as he points out, if Israel does anything, unless a bunch of Jews die, which kind of fits the equation, if they do anything to fight back, then people go bananas.
		The same people who then don't say anything as Christians are being slaughtered.
		So we should focus on that a little bit more, right?
		Of course, what we focus on in this country, unfortunately, is problems that don't really exist.
		So now let's jump over to Ilhan Omar.
		This is last week, and she's talking about how the idea that America as a white nation is disgusting.
		Now, there's virtually nobody that thinks that America should be an exclusively white nation, and that has nothing to do with our founding or anything else, but take a look.
ilhan omar ▲ ● ▼		I do think that majority of the conversation is driven by white supremacs who believe in the replacement theory and who think that by allowing immigrants in this country that their supposed white nation is going to end.
ilhan omar ▲ ● ▼		The idea that this is a white nation that needs to be preserved is a fascinatingly disgusting view because this country is one for the many.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, Ilhan, I actually agree that America is not a white nation and shouldn't be a white nation.
		It is a nation for all people who partake and would like to participate in the dream of America, as our founders laid out.
		You are not somebody that should be here, but I don't think that necessarily has anything to do with your skin color.
		It has far more to do with your ideology.
		But the reason I'm jumping from the Nigeria situation to that is notice that Ilhan Omar, who deeply cares about people's skin color and seems to really care about black people, and that's just fine, she won't say a word about what's going on in Africa.
		Why not?
		Why won't Ilhan Omar and her ilk, who purport to care about skin color, right?
		Everything around, everything that they talk about, what does it focus on?
		What is circles around it?
		It's skin color.
		Why do they not care about, you know, the black people?
		Let's get the numbers this weekend in Chicago.
		How many black people were killed by black people?
		Oh, that's right.
		That's why you don't care because it was black people that shot them also.
		So part of what's going on here as a, I would say all over the globe right now is as horrible things are happening, usually race space, horrible things, if they don't fit the intersectional calculator, then nobody on the left nor the mainstream media machine cares.
		I'm getting the numbers on Chicago right now.
		25 people were shot in Chicago this weekend and five dead.
		So I'd say that's basically an average weekend.
		Didn't happen here in Miami.
		I wonder why.
		Let's jump back, though, to 2023.
		We haven't talked about Ibram X. Kendi for a while.
		This has been one of the great race hustlers of all time, someone who has pushed so much of what has become institutionally racist in our schools and colleges and all of these things.
		And really has just become a racist.
		He calls all of us racist, but he really was just an anti-white racist and he's largely been removed from the equation.
		But listen to him in 2023.
ibram x kendi ▲ ● ▼		I don't think white people worldwide have really reckoned with how much their own personal identity is shaped by constructions of whiteness and how much that construction of whiteness prevents white people from connecting to humanity.
ibram x kendi ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		White people can't Connor.
		You're pretty white.
		As far as I'm concerned, you're the whitest.
		You're one of the top three white people I know.
		How you doing with connecting with humanity?
		You seem just fine this morning.
		Yeah, after coffee, you're better about it.
		But it's just dribble.
		It's overly intellectualized nonsense that you could never say about any other group.
		Trust me, you're going to see where we're going with all this.
		So now let's jump to last year, October of 2024, when you see these intellectuals.
		So you've got your Ilhan Omars.
		Everybody's a white supremacist.
		Somehow they let you into the country, but they're all white supremacists.
		Then you have your leftist thought leaders, Ibram X. Kendi, white people basically don't know how to be human.
		I mean, that's basically what he said.
		And here's from a year ago, October of 2024, Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott on how America doesn't even deserve black people, particularly black women.
unidentified		It is really on my heart this morning to say that as a man, but more importantly, as a black man, that this country does not deserve black women or black people, but specifically black women.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Really think about the gall of these people.
		And this is what this intersexual lunacy breaks brains.
		This is why we call it a woke mind virus.
		There you have a young black man who I'm going to guess doesn't have a lot of great qualifications.
		He is now the mayor of Baltimore.
		Baltimore is a crime-ridden shithole, although the aquarium is pretty nice.
		Have you ever been there?
		They got this giant pool right in the middle where the scuba diver can jump in right with the sharks.
		Pretty cool.
		But this guy, America doesn't deserve black men.
		Okay, you're a black guy and you became the mayor of Baltimore somehow.
		And it really doesn't deserve black women.
		I know plenty of black women that are doing just fine and that are happy to be here.
		You don't see black women at the border like, let me out of America.
		I can't take it here anymore.
		But now, watch this.
		I told you we're doing a deep dive today.
		I thought this was a joke when I saw it at first.
		And in some sense, it is a joke.
		Just not a literal joke.
		At the African American Museum in D.C., which is one of the ugliest buildings you have ever seen if you have not seen this thing.
		It's an absolute monstrosity.
		I don't know what they were thinking when they built this.
unidentified		Well, everything's just an assault on your senses these days.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Here is an older white woman being put into shackles and having to explain herself to a black man because parody is dead.
unidentified		Welcome to America.
stephen a smith ▲ ● ▼		Tell me what you're thinking.
unidentified		Just so much.
stephen a smith ▲ ● ▼		Kleenex is blue.
unidentified		I've always been interested in history and the history of black people.
		I took Amphorocentric classes at UDL.
		My grandma lived at 2821 West Kentucky Street.
		I've read so many books and now I belong to a church that's primarily African American and I wouldn't be anywhere else.
		Beautiful.
stephen a smith ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Now suck my dick, Honkin.
		Reparations.
		Like, what is that?
		Look, there should be, if you want, there should be every museum to anything and everyone can talk about their history and do all those things.
		That's just fine.
		But what kind of insane situation?
		Like, it would be interesting, I suppose, at the museum.
		You know, we'll go next time we go to DC just to see.
		But I'm not talking to that guy, I promise you.
		But like, it would be interesting.
		There's something to be said.
		Like, you could put on the handcuffs, right?
		And feel what a slave had to feel.
		There is something about that.
		But to then have to explain yourself to a random black man there is, it's the worst kind of, we've seen this.
		Remember during the BLM, the riots when there were white people on their knees bowing to black people and shining their shoes and all that stuff?
		So again, you're going to see where we're going with all of this.
		So what they do, they don't care when really bad things are happening, when genocides are happening across the world.
		They like pretend genocides, not real ones.
		They want everyone here to be endlessly focused on race and really to bow to you, right?
		That's the purpose of all of this, to bow to you.
		And then they will tell you that the people who are trying to clean up the mess that we have here are the real bad guys.
		Here is Tennessee state representative Justin Pearson explaining that Stephen Miller, noted Jew, is a white nationalist.
unidentified		Particularly cities with black leadership.
		Stephen Miller is a known white nationalist and supports white supremacist ideology.
		And so the fact that our city is going to be targeted, that my constituents and people who I care for.
		Right.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		We have Joseph Googling it right now.
		But can a Jew be a white nationalist?
		That is one confused Jew.
		It's just so idiotic.
		What are you talking about?
		You're telling me that Stephen Miller, or point to me somebody that genuinely in the Trump administration wants America to be a white nationalist country.
		Do they have different opinions than you, Tennessee state representative?
		Do they have different opinions when it comes to borders and legal versus illegal immigration and, I don't know, crime in cities and things.
		Of course they have differences of opinions, but that doesn't mean that they are white nationalists.
		Joseph did Google it, and according to Google, Jews cannot be white nationalists.
		Also, like lady on MSNBC, I get it.
		You have your thick rim glasses, so you think you'll look smart and all that stuff.
		But when someone just out of nowhere says, oh, that guy, it doesn't even matter.
		He's Jewish.
		That guy is a white supremacist.
		What you might want to say if you were a journalist is, could you give me a little evidence of that?
		Could you give me a little evidence?
		But now let's go back to Van Jones and the key part of what he said, and then we'll connect it to everything else.
van jones ▲ ● ▼		There's a double standard for Jews.
		That is true.
		No Jews, no news.
		As long as you can put the Jewish state in the conversation, it's going to be a big conversation.
		If you can't, you get no attention at all.
		This is a big deal.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Okay, and we all know that.
		You know, tomorrow obviously is the second anniversary of October 7th.
		You know, Trump, we're going to discuss this more tomorrow because we couldn't quite fit it in here.
		But there is this potential deal to get not only the remaining, what they think are 20 living hostages out, but it's unclear to me how many.
		I think there's about 40 bodies that are probably rotting somewhere under Gaza that they're in the process supposedly of moving right now and they'll get them all out.
		And then this war, at least this version of it, it's not going to be kumbaya peace tomorrow, obviously, but within about 72 hours from now, it could be the ending of this thing.
		But his point is, no Jews, no news, that for some reason, we only focus on these things when people can figure out a way to basically attack Israel more than anything else.
		So now I want to jump.
		You know, I had Dinesh D'Souza in studio on Friday, and we got into a bit of what's been going on on the right.
		And I think you know my feelings on this.
		I haven't been too deeply involved in some of this fighting on the right because I am desperately trying, and I think it is the best thing for America for the right to have as wide a tent as possible.
		You love America, then I don't really care.
		Then we can disagree on some foreign policy stuff, or we can disagree on some tax stuff.
		We can do all the things, but if you basically love America, we should be on the same side.
		So in a normal world, if some of these people were not behaving this way, I would be on the same side as them, but they seem to be going off the deep end.
		And I think this is a good example of instead of worrying about what real problems are, actually running cover for them.
		So here is Tucker Carlson on Sharia law.
		Listen to this.
		This is mind-blowing.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		And you should know, Seth, that the real danger is Sharia law.
		Sharia law.
		And you can tell when you go to a place like Abu Dhabi or Riyadh, like, oh, man, I hope we don't ever wind up with a society like this with a rape rate of zero where you leave your keys in your Lamborghini and don't ever worry about it being stolen.
		And, you know, if people want to get wasted, they do it at home.
		You know what I mean?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Boy, I hope we don't wind up with that.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		You see what he just did right there?
		Why are you running cover for Sharia law?
		You know, we did a little checking, Tucker.
		I know you're not a big fan of fact-checking things, but there are about 132,000 people who are, in essence, modern slaves in the UAE.
		So the guy who can leave his keys in his Lamborghini, it's because there is a slave system built there that is building those beautiful buildings and all of those things, right?
		Like, why don't you care about that?
		As far as I know, Tucker has not done a thing, has not said a word about the Christian genocide.
		Every episode that he does now has become about the Jews and Israel, right?
		Every single episode.
		This is complete, it's completely absurd.
		Tucker, if you like Donald Trump, which there's a lot of texts from back in the day saying how much you hate him, but if you like Donald Trump, if you like MAGA, then focus on some of the positive things.
		Stop trying to put this crazy wedge in the right that is fixing the freaking country right now because we have major problems, major problems that are leaking across the pond right now.
		But before we get to that, this is a video from about a year ago, but for some reason this weekend, it just went bananas viral.
		This is Scott Galloway, professor of business actually at NYU, who I've had on the show, and I think he'll be on in a couple of weeks when we get back from Australia as well, talking about the double standard as it pertains to these war, these wars, these military adventures that are happening across the world.
scott galloway ▲ ● ▼		2,200 American servicemen killed at Pearl Harbor.
		We go on to kill 3.5 million Japanese, including 100,000 in one night.
		2,800 Americans in 9-11, we go on to kill 400,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq.
		We weren't accused of genocide.
		You had, if Mexico had elected a jihadist cartel to run their country and then they incurred into Texas and on a per capita basis killed 35,000 people of the population of the University of Texas and on the way back took the freshman class at SMU hostage and hid them under tunnels, what would we do?
		It'd be the great Sonora radioactive parking lot.
		But Jews are not allowed and Israel is not allowed to prosecute a war.
		And they are prosecuting a war more humanely than we have done.
		The ratio of combatants to civilians is of civilian death to combatant mortality is lower than it was in Mosul, lower than it was in Japan, lower it was in Germany.
		So there's just a different standard for Jews in Israel when it comes to prosecuting a war.
		They're allowed to fight back to a truce, but unlike America or any other Western nation that is attacked this viciously, they're not allowed to win a war.
		It's a double standard.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so I don't know what caused that suddenly this weekend to go viral.
		Maybe it has something to do with this Trump peace plan.
		But the point there is there's this endless focus and defamation and lying machine, always as it pertains to Israel and largely as it's connected to the Jews, which is just, I would prefer to never say, if I never on this show said had to say Israel or Jews again, it would be a pleasure because then that would mean everything is basically fine.
		Just if you could all accept that they've got this little sliver of land there.
		Stop trying to kill all these people.
		You're going to be fine.
		They don't want anything to do with you at this point.
		But when we have this strange double standard, and to connect it to the earlier part of the show, when people racialize everything in the wrong way, so when you have all of these people that are constantly telling you America is a white supremacist nation and Stephen Miller, the Jew is a white supremacist and all of these things, the intersexual calculator ends up breaking brains.
		And over time, when you have enough broken brains, you will have a broken society.
		So we will connect that to what's going on in the UK right now.
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dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right, so what happens when you put ideology over truth?
		When you decide, I'll care about this issue because it fits my ideology and I won't look at that issue or I won't cover that because the race component doesn't quite fit or it just largely doesn't fit whatever my ideology is.
		Well, then people start dying.
		That's how it works.
		As you know, last Thursday, which was the holiest day of the Jewish year, Yom Kippur, at a synagogue in Manchester, two people were killed.
		We're going to recap that and then we'll get to the fallout.
		This from time.
		An attack at a synagogue in Manchester, north of England on Thursday that left two victims dead and four others injured is being treated as a terrorist incident.
		Police confirmed.
		The suspect was fatally shot by Greater Manchester Police, firearms officers at the scene, and three arrests have since been made in relation to the attack.
		Although a formal identification is yet to take place, police said they believe the person responsible for the attacks is 35-year-old Jihad Al-Shami.
		The two male victims who died were members of Greater Manchester's Jewish community, Chief Constable, Sir Stephen Watson, Constable Steer Stephen Watson confirmed.
		Formal identification is pending, but police announce on Friday morning that the deceased victims are believed to be Adrian Dalby, 53, and Melvin Kravitz, 66, both from Crumpsell, Manchester.
		GMP also said Friday morning that one of the deceased victims, Dalby, appears to have suffered a wound consistent with a gunshot injury, which may have been sustained as a tragic and unforeseen consequence of the actions taken by police officers.
		The suspect was notably not in possession of a firearm.
		This has been determined from a preliminary examination of the victims.
		A full post-mortem is expected to take place later this, later on Friday.
		Okay, so it's one of those things.
		It's sort of like, it's sort of like when Charlie was killed.
		It was shocking, but not surprising, right?
		So it's shocking if someone anywhere in the Western world just gets killed at their place of worship, murdered for practicing their religion on the holiest day of the year.
		But it's certainly not surprising that it's happened, right?
		Like, of course, these jihadists that are roaming the streets of the UK are going to start doing these things.
		Also, Jihad, which the Syrian immigrant named Jihad, who came to the UK to obviously make a better life for him and his family, he was on bail after a rape arrest.
		But okay, let's put that aside for a second.
		So let's connect this to the earlier stuff.
		There is a set of people on the left and in the media who will never let you call balls and strikes on these things.
		They never want to blame who's doing this, who's doing the bad stuff, who's killing the people, who's going after their own citizens.
		They always want to figure out something else.
		So listen to this.
		I mean, this is just insane.
		This is a guy by the name of Gary Neville.
		He's a BBC host.
		And here he is, hours after the jihadist named Jihad, good title for a book, the jihadist named Jihad, killed a couple Jews on the holiest day of the Jewish calendar.
		Who is the BBC's Gary Neville blaming?
		you know, you know, sorry, you know, spoiler alert, you know.
unidentified		So I've just left my house and walking into the office, waking up obviously, seeing the news last night and the news this morning dominated by the horrific attacks within the Jewish community, just about a mile from here.
		Got the Jewish community right at its heart and they're out on the streets, defiant, not hiding or in fear.
		And I just kept thinking as I was driving home last night that we're all being turned on each other.
		And the division that's being created is absolutely disgusting.
		Mainly created by angry, middle-aged white men who know exactly what they're doing.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		That is just so incredible.
		Isn't that something that video that you can see why I want to show it to you?
		He's like making sense.
		It's all making sense.
		Then you hear like an explosion in the background, but okay, it's all making sense.
		And then as he's talking about jihad, literal little jihad who killed the Jews on the holy day, who does he blame?
		But mainly created by angry white men.
		It is so profoundly absurd and it is destroying your nation.
		We did show you some videos, but we'll show you an image right now.
		Here are some angry white men.
		Yeah, these are the angry white men that he's talking about.
		This is about two weeks ago at the Unite the Kingdom rally from September 13th, so a little more than two weeks ago.
		And look at all those angry white men with their British flags protesting for free speech and protesting for Western society to continue and so that their country isn't taken over by, I don't know, guys named Jihad.
		But okay, BBC reporter, that's perfectly consistent with the BBC.
		So then, okay, so then they, so jihad, this is so insane.
		So jihad kills a couple Jews.
		And then what do the pro-Hamas people who are taking over the streets of London every day do?
		Well, in honor of Jihad killing the Jews, they get out there and do what they do.
		You'd think maybe if these people were very principled and this was really about saving the Palestinians and everything else.
		Well, of course, the simple thing would be to just ask Egypt to open up the door because there is a border there and they could have saved everybody two years ago.
		But okay, I know that's a little confusing because it involves geopolitics and whatever.
		But you'd think that if those are good, decent British citizens, maybe you take a night off calling for more jihad when one of your guys just killed a couple random people.
		But they didn't.
		They use it as fodder.
		It is fuel for them.
		So when the BBC reporters talk about the angry white men, well, those angry white men, they didn't crash into police officers and call for genocide and all of those things.
		They were perfectly peaceful.
		And what they want to do is restore the country that will allow you to live there.
		But I hate to tell you, BBC reporter, it doesn't even matter what his name is.
		I don't even remember.
		It's like, sorry, buddy.
		It just, when they come, Gary Neville, that's his name.
		When they come, Gary Neville, they're not going to be that nice to you either.
		But there have been some people in the UK that have been warning about this for years.
		And I would put Douglas Murray at the top of that list.
		For over a decade, Douglas has been screaming.
		Well, screaming.
		He's Douglas Murray, so he does it more like this.
		It's not very screamy.
		But he has been warning.
		He has written several books about it.
		One night about 10, was it maybe eight years ago, I took a walk with Douglas through London about 10 p.m.
		We walked around for about two hours and we walked through.
		He kept showing me all the places that terrorist attacks had occurred or where stabbings had occurred or where they now had to have barriers so that cars couldn't go through.
		And he no longer lives in the UK.
		He lives in America now because he was warning about this.
		He was telling people, hey, guys, the barbarians are at the gate and they just kept letting the barbarians in.
		Here they are.
		And here's Douglas Murray.
douglas murray ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		Just bear with me because I know better than you what I think.
		This country has had a wildly stupid and lax immigration policy for decades.
		And we allowed people like the Abaydi family, a family of jihadists who'd fallen out with Colonel Gaddafi because they were from rival jihadist groups.
		When the Abedi family fell out with Colonel Gaddafi, they came first to London and then to Manchester.
		And one of the sons they gave this country was Salman Abedi, who at the age of 22 killed 22 young girls at the Manchester Arena in a suicide bomb.
		One, by the way, for every year of life this country gave him.
		His brothers just stabbed and thrown boiling oil at three prisoners.
		Don't you bear with me, why were they obeying...
unidentified		Hang on.
douglas murray ▲ ● ▼		Why were the Abadi family in the UK?
		Why is nobody interested in asking that?
		And I'll tell you what the problem here is.
		There are lots of types of extremism.
		You get far-right extremism, far-left extremism.
		When it comes to jihadist extremism, jihadism comes from Islam.
		Therefore, if it's 1%, 5%, 15% of people of the Muslim faith who follow that version of it, you've got a hell of a problem.
unidentified		And the more people, the larger, this is simple math.
douglas murray ▲ ● ▼		The larger the number of people who are followers of a faith that has not solved the extremism problem in its midst or drawn suitable lines, the more extremism you will have.
		You don't get that from the Catholic Church in 2023 or 4.
		You don't get it from the Methodists.
		You won't get it from the Quakers and you won't get it from the Anglicans.
unidentified		Of course that.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so there's a couple things here.
		Do you think that anything that Douglas Murray said there is because Douglas is racist?
		Do you think if there had been a decent policy of immigration in the UK over the last 20 years and they had vetted people properly and they had figured out what the numbers are and they looked at the systems and they were like, well, actually, we can support this many people and they will have jobs and they'll integrate properly and blah.
		Had it all been right, do you think Douglas Murray is up there given that talk?
		The answer obviously is no.
		Instead, you create a situation where you dump all of these people into a country.
		You don't know exactly why.
		They don't have anything in common with the native population.
		As a matter of fact, they have, I would say, you could almost say diametrically opposed views in most situations.
		They want to become a dominating culture.
		And then you have someone like Douglas Murray who was sounding the alarm on this thing over a decade ago.
		Everyone was calling him a right-wing extremist.
		And finally now, likely when it is too late for the UK, because I don't think they'll do what they have to do.
		America, we're much stronger for a million reasons.
		Now it's like you can talk about it, right?
		Like Elon's tweeting about this stuff.
		There's more and more people talking about it.
		But Douglas was early in on it and he warned you guys.
		And good luck with all of that.
		But that is where we are at, that if you only look at things through the intersexual, intersexual.
		That's funny.
		That's funny.
		The intersexual lens.
		If you only look at things through the intersectional lens, you are going to get most things wrong.
		And speaking of most things wrong, we will have Greta Thunberg, a woman who, a young lady who, she should be a 12-year-old girl.
		She's aging like a 78-year-old ogre.
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		All right, climate cunt.
		Greta Thunberg can now officially be called Jihadis Jezebel Greta Thunberg.
		I was working on that one all morning.
		She got on the boat again.
		You know, she keeps hopping on these boats and she gets on with a bunch of jihadi adjacent people and they sing songs and they bang little drums and they wear their little jihad scarves and they take a trip to Gaza and they do this every few months and then Israel has to arrest them and they give them a little holla and they give them a little hummus and they put them on a plane and the plane burns you know gas and then it's like well she doesn't care about the climate anymore fine well here is Greta she did it again she showed up and yes they had to arrest her how old is she
		I mean, she is aging horribly.
		I mean, she has such hatred in her cold, coal-like heart that she's just aging terribly.
		We have this from Breaking.
		She's 22 years old, right?
		She looks like she's 72.
		Breaking Israeli military, so several boats in Gaza aid flotilla have been safely stopped and passengers are being transferred to an Israeli port.
		That's according to Sky News.
		And here is Greta on getting intercepted.
		Well, here she is getting intercepted, actually.
		And look, they're so mean to her that they actually, it was a little chilly, a little chilly this time of year right off the coast over there in the Mediterranean.
		They gave her a coat.
		We're so mean.
		Would you, can I put your coat on?
		Would you want me to zip it?
		And here she is explaining her horrific ordeal.
unidentified		My name is Greta Jumlay.
		I'm a citizen of Sweden.
		If you are watching this video, I have been abducted and taken against my will by Israeli forces.
		Our humanitarian mission was non-violent and abiding by international law.
		Please tell my government to demand my and the others immediate.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Well, it wasn't abiding by international law, but putting that aside for just a second, she said she was on a humanitarian mission and this was all about getting aid to the people of Gaza who need it.
		Well, it turns out you're not going to believe this.
		Flotilla to Gaza had no humanitarian supplies.
		I watched a video this morning.
		They take a camera under the boat right after they get the, all these little LARPing jihad morons off the boat.
		There was nothing.
		They weren't bringing band-aids.
		They didn't bring a juice box.
		Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
		And again, to connect this to the top of the show.
		So you have these lunatics, these absolute lunatics.
		I mean, Greta is at the top of the list because for 10 years, they took this little child who was 12 at the time.
		Now she's 22.
		And they made her a huge star because she ranted and raved about the climate.
		And then when people got sick of it and realized that the entire climate change conversation has been abject bullshit, it has been lied about.
		The earth is going to be just fine.
		Everything is going to, actually, everything is going to be just fine at the end of the day.
		She decided to jump over and get in on the new thing because it was just like your leftists seem to love these people.
		Well, here's footage from an imam over at the Al-Aqsa Mosque.
		And as you guys know, we discussed this on Friday with Dinesh, the Al-Aqsa Mosque is in Jerusalem.
		It was built on top of the remains of the old holy temple that Jesus used to pray at.
		So who do you think was there first?
		Because they built it on top of the remains of the thing.
		You don't have to be a wizard.
		But listen to this to just show you how ridiculous the intersectional calculator is.
		Do you think this guy would be welcomed at an LGBTQ for Palestine party?
unidentified		you don't have to be a person who lives with the racism and indigenous people.
		you don't have to be a person who lives with the latter of the people who lives with the wicked people and the uniting people?
		And that is not a person who lives and to mess the rules of the shriya by a false or a false or false or not be responsible for the misdemeanor.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		for those of you that were listening on the audio podcast, that was a lot of words to say we're going to kill all the gays and how much we like Sharia law.
		Tucker, that's interesting.
		Do you agree with that part of Sharia?
		Maybe you do, but have the balls to say it if you do.
		But so that is what Palestine wants for queers.
		What do queers for Palestine want?
		Well, look at them when they're out here in the West.
		They're out there.
		And oh my God, we've got our colored placards.
		And oh, look, and there's a guy in a dress in the back.
		Look at that low-cut thing showing off his chest.
		And look at all these people.
		It's, oh, my, and if you took vacation there, it wouldn't end well.
		But the problem, actually, guys, and this is what the West is now going to have to confront.
		This is what Douglas Murray has been worried about for over a decade, is that it is being exported all over the West.
		And because we are focused on so many other idiotic issues, because we have a half of a, well, we have a full political party, but half the political establishment is constantly calling us white supremacists and neo-Nazis.
		Our eye isn't on the ball and we are allowing this now to take root.
		Even here in America, here is Dearborn, Michigan.
		And you tell me, is this what you want in America?
		I mean, I literally had to take my earpiece out.
		Like, no American should be subjected to that.
		You want to play your call to prayer.
		What do they do five times a day?
		Do it in your mosque.
		You guys don't have a right to disturb the public.
		Now, I think in Dearborn, they somehow have figured out to skirt their way around laws to allow it to happen.
		By the way, it's happening in Minnesota now, too.
		But how do you think the other people feel?
		How do you think those pesky Jews, but forget the Jews?
		How do you think just the average person, you want to hear that in the morning?
		You think, I would imagine Dearborn if some, if a couple Christians moved in and they wanted to have blaring Christian hymns, but Christians would never do it.
		You get the point.
		You get the point.
		But by the way, it is coming to New York City too.
		Eric Adams, who just dropped out, he already had changed the laws so that they were allowed, they were going to be allowed to do more of these Muslim call to prayers publicly, which is just absolutely insane.
		That is an infringement on other people's pursuit of happiness.
		If you're walking down the street and you have to hear that, do it in your private place.
		But they don't want to do it just in their private place because this is a dominant ideology that is designed to make everyone submit.
		It is coming to New York City in the name, or it is coming to New York City masked as a lo-fi, soft lens communist, trying to be nice here.
		Zorhan Mom Dami, here he is.
unidentified		Interviews to speak to reporters across the city, across the country.
		They've asked me, what does it mean that you are Muslim?
		What does your faith mean to you?
		And I tell them about my grandparents.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
		Well, that's just fine.
		You can tell them about your grandparents.
		But what are you doing here?
		What are you doing here, Mom Dami?
		I mean, you're here.
		I get it.
		What you're doing is you're doing the Red, Green Alliance thing.
		They put you in a nice suit and they shaved you properly.
		And you're faking it as some sort of cleaned up version of a communist.
		And you're going to usher in communism and it's going to come with a dash of jihad.
		That's coming to New York City.
		You know my feelings about the people that live there.
		I spoke to my real estate agent this weekend, actually, and he said Florida right now is having this other boom.
		Like it actually is happening.
		It's not just a notion.
		It's not just an idea.
		People are getting the high hell out right now.
		And of course, they're coming down here and hopefully, God help us all that they will vote the right way.
		I saw an interesting tweet about what's going on with the Mom Dami situation because, you know, there's a feeling amongst a lot of people, and I have it to a degree myself.
		It's like, you know what?
		New York City deserves it at this point.
		You guys just deserve it.
		And it's like, there's some partly that is true.
		Like if people want to vote for this thing, then you're going to get what you asked for.
		And congratulations and good luck with all of that.
		But you also have to feel bad to some extent for the, let's say, 40 plus percentage of people who are not going to vote for it and just going to be subjected to it.
		You might feel bad for the people that are going to get killed in the suicide bomb wave and that aren't going to be able to get food when the government run food stores run out.
		You might feel bad for them.
		But a guy by the name of Jacob King, he's the CEO of Swandesk Crypto.
		He put up this tweet that I thought was quite good.
		He said, this may be controversial, but Momdami should win the election.
		New York City was the most capitalistic city in the world.
		It's no longer the world-class metropolis it once was and is slowly succumbing to the disease of socialism.
		Society cannot be convinced through argument alone that socialism fails.
		They must live through it.
		That experience will serve as a reminder of why it collapses every time, and the lesson is essential.
		Americans once understood this threat.
		During the Cold War, the entire nation feared socialism spread.
		Immigrants who fled the Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, China, and Eastern Europe came here and warned of its destruction.
		Their stories were not theoretical.
		They had lived through the collapse, censorship, poverty, and the authoritarian control that followed.
		Mamdami's victory next month will usher in a period of despair and crisis for the city, but in the long run, will harden its resilience and spark a return to the true capitalistic values that built New York into the great city it once was.
		Look, that probably is right.
		The question is how much destruction in those bad years will be wrought.
		The question is, what is the bottom of that hole, right?
		How deep do you have to go?
		How many people will have to die?
		How much more crime will there be?
		How many more jihadis will you import?
		How many more good people will you force out?
		So what is it?
		What is rock bottom of the communist dream?
		So that is what they are going to do.
		And I certainly hope he is right that I don't know, six, seven, eight, nine, 12, 15 years from now, New York suddenly has, and by the way, it does happen.
		It has a rebirth.
		So you have four horrendous years of progressive socialist communist David Dinkins.
		And then what happened?
		You got Rudy Giuliani and he fixed the whole thing.
		Ironically, Momdami, we played you the video, I think, two weeks ago.
		He was like, well, I'm not the first Democrat socialist to be mayor of New York City because we had Dinkins.
		Yes, Dinkins who destroyed the city.
		So once again, they're just going to usher in all these things.
		And I would liken what that guy wrote right there to Douglas Murray.
	What is the point if you are in the UK that you will push back?
	So they're going to do an experiment now, a giant multicultural experiment where you're going to import people who don't like you, who will literally have rallies hours after their own people killed random people at a temple, and they'll still do it.
	And they never have the flag of their country.
	They only have the Palestinian flag, which is a state that never existed, designed only to destroy states that do exist, right?
	They'll do that.
	They'll do that.
	And at what point do we push back?
	And I would say, I would say we in the United States.
	At what point are we like, you know, there's a real problem?
	We have a city that is that is basically breaking out of the American the American experiment, which is Dearborn, Michigan.
	And there are other cities and there's a couple popping up in Texas right now.
	At what point does this no longer work?
	I don't know what the answer to that is.
	I'm just posing the question.
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unidentified		All right.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		So in some sense, today's show so far has been ringing the bell, right?
		Sounding the alarm.
		There's problems.
		People have been warning about it.
		We have a media here that just keeps confusing you of what the real issues are as the inmates start running the asylum, all of those things.
		And one of the reasons that I've been so, it's not one of the reasons.
		Trump, from where I sit, has basically done everything right so far.
		And what he's doing in the cities by reclaiming our cities from leftist mayors and DAs and institutions that are wrecking the cities, he's going in and saying, hey, you're still part of America and we're going to have to fix this.
		And I wonder over time what he would do in a place like Dearborn, right?
		Like, how is Dearborn?
		How is hearing all of that stuff?
		How is having an Islamized city in the United States?
		How is that fair to the citizens that live there that are not of that faith?
		How's that working out?
		So let's jump over to Portland.
		As you know, Portland has been ground zero for Antifa lunacy.
		They have lit the Portland federal courthouse on fire multiple times.
		The drugs, all the zombies, all of the stuff.
		Well, Trump is sending in the protesters, but here are officers.
		I think, if I'm not mistaken, some of these are local officers too, outside of the Portland ICE Detention Center because the protesters and the Antifa lunatics are attacking them and they've had just about enough.
		So maybe the West, this is an instance of the West standing up for itself.
		So, you know, if you don't want to have the shit kicked out of you by an ICE soldier or a local law enforcement or the feds or whatever, stop showing up to the Portland or stop showing up to any ICE facility and trying to break in or trying to cut through the barbed wire or whatever it might be.
		If you don't like what ICE is doing and you guys don't like it and you want more illegals here and all of those things, then you can voice your opinions publicly, but you can't just wander into these facilities.
		So they're literally throwing Molotov cocktails at these people.
		They're throwing smoke bombs, all of this crazy stuff.
		But Trump is going ahead and he's trying to fix these places.
		And then the unspoken person of Portland, three years from now, that probably didn't vote for Trump will be like, you know, Portland's okay again.
		I can go to a Trailblazer game without being butt-raped.
unidentified		That's pretty, that's pretty good.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		But it's not just in Portland.
		Here, Chicago, we're going to cut the audio on this one because there's some music.
		We don't want to get hit with a copyright strike.
		But this is a 1 a.m. raid in Chicago.
		Look at this.
		Look, does anyone, do we like the idea?
		Like, I don't love the idea of soldiers wandering through our metropolitan cities.
		I don't love the idea of them having to do that.
		But they are going in and they are getting illegals.
		They're not just, as they keep trying to tell you on The View and on CNN and Ilhan and the rest of them every day, just going in and like, let's find some brown people.
		No, they're going in and they are finding people who are illegal.
		And you might think, but you know, sometimes that's someone's housekeeper or whatever.
		And there is some legitimacy to that.
		But you guys created a situation where we let in so many people that there's going to be some eggs cracked.
		That's just the reality of it.
		The sympathies, the sympathies that most people would have for the person that's been here for 15 years has been law abiding and all of those things.
		Like, I don't even know how I feel about that exactly if they were to just get caught up.
		If there was someone that was here that was 50 years old and had lived a good life and was working and like, was the idea that we were going to get rid of all these people, not really.
		But are some people going to be caught up in that?
		And are those people still doing something illegal, by the way?
		The answer obviously is yes.
		And because you guys allowed so many people in, then you might argue, I'm not even making the argument, but you might make the argument that there might be a bit of an overreaction here and you're going to catch some people that it wasn't really intended to catch.
		Here is video of Brandon Johnson on the recent immigration raid.
		And yes, you already got what he's going to say.
brandon johnson ▲ ● ▼		Well, the tensions are certainly high in the city of Chicago.
		What the president is doing is absolutely dangerous and unconstitutional.
		But our position is clear.
		We're going to remain resolved and firm in our position to protect the rights of all of our residents.
		What you are describing is something that we have been warning about for some time, that there are a number of people, including the president of the United States of America, that have decided to declare war on poor people and on working people across the country.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Trump is not going after poor people.
		Do you think they have ICE out there?
		Like, find out how much those people have in their checking account and then arrest them?
		No, you ding bat.
		He says that he's going to protect the rights of all of our residents.
		It's interesting.
		None of your residents, your legal residents, are having their rights violated.
		He, Trump, is going in and cleaning up the thing that you won't clean up.
		What was the numbers you just told me before?
		Five people were shot.
		No, I think it was five people killed and 25 shot in Chicago this weekend, despite Trump sending in some of the feds.
		Why do you not care about that, Brandon Johnson?
		But of course, it's not just you.
		You just happen to be the mayor of Chicago doing a piss-poor job.
		Let's go to the governor of Illinois, J.B. Pritzker, who I think they've got him on the Ozempic because they're on the way to having him run in 2028.
		Here he is with Jake Tapper, and he completely makes up that Donald Trump is detaining U.S. citizens.
		No evidence of it, but it's CNN.
		So you can just say whatever shit you want.
unidentified		Governor Pritzker, what's your response to Secretary Noam?
unidentified		And as a practical matter, since you oppose this troop deployment, is there anything you can do?
jb pritzker ▲ ● ▼		Well, good morning, Jake.
		And let me just say that the Secretary doesn't know what she's talking about.
		She frankly says that people are clapping.
		They're not.
		They're booing her on the street and they're booing ICE and CBP.
		They're marching the CBP marching on a beautiful Sunday in Michigan Avenue in downtown Chicago.
		They're raiding neighborhoods where instead of going after the bad guys, they're just picking up people who are brown and black and then checking their credentials.
		Are you a U.S. citizen?
		They are the ones that are making it a war zone.
		They need to get out of Chicago.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you need to get out of Chicago, man.
		Maybe you need to get out.
		I have a friend that I went to high school with moved to Chicago for 20 years.
		He just left.
		He's down here too now.
		He wanted to stay there.
		Lifelong Bulls fan, even though we were from New York.
		Love those Jordaniers, but now he's here in Florida because he didn't want to put up with that nonsense, right?
		Why do you not care about the mayhem happening in your city?
		And again, show me the video.
		Show me the video where ICE is just wandering down a street and they're like, there's a couple black people over there and they're, you know, playing stickball.
		What are kids playing on the street these days?
		Little, they're playing, they're playing a card game.
		They're playing a little.
		And that they arrest them.
		Like, it's just not happening.
unidentified		Okay.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		It's just absurd.
		Let's keep moving.
		So what this does when they do this obvious nonsense is it takes the centrists and it brings them more to our side.
		And that is great.
		And that's why when I'm critical of these people on the right, it's like, guys, stop doing all, stop running cover for Sharia.
		Stop being obsessed with the Jews in Israel because everyone could still be coming our way right now.
		We have the president we want.
		We have the VP we want.
		We have the entire administration across the board, whether it's Marco or Tulsi or Bobby or all these people.
		We have all the people we want.
		We got Bongino involved.
		We have everything we need right here.
		We have a crazy party on the left that's pushing people our way.
		How about we focus on solidifying that?
		That's the future of America, a future that will bring in people like my friend Stephen A. Smith, who's still not quite there yet, but seemingly on the way.
stephen a smith ▲ ● ▼		But I'm not sure I disagree with the terrorists just yet.
		I certainly don't disagree with what he's done with immigration because I thought it was necessary because of what Biden did.
		Last time I checked, the economy hasn't collapsed.
		Inflation may be imminent, if not already here, but we haven't felt the profound effects of that yet.
		Maybe it's coming, maybe it won't.
		And I'm not worried about people being in jail and being let out the same day like I was under the previous administration.
		I ain't apologizing for that.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		So there what you have: a guy like Stephen A. who did not, as he sat in this very studio like a week after the election, did not vote for Donald Trump, still does not consider himself a Trump supporter.
		I'm not exactly sure why.
		It's a little bit of that Mar thing.
		But there he's going.
		Look, you guys screwed up the immigration.
		So I'm more on the side of Trump.
		You guys screwed up the economy.
		So I'm more on the side of Trump.
		You guys screwed up crime.
		And you have these rotating people going in and out of prison.
		So I'm more on the side of Trump.
		So that gives us virtually everyone that is sane if we would just push the crazies aside.
		And if you want to see how crazy these people are, and they are, what are they?
		They're always crazy while pretending they're the good guys.
		That's the trick that we have to learn how to see through because they're very, very good at leading with the heart and with empathy.
		And most of the things that they say kind of sound good.
		But what do I always say?
		It's like the most thin veneer.
		And when you peel back the thin veneer of kindness and decency of a progressive underneath is something really, really nasty.
		It's usually the results of their tolerance.
		I cannot believe this is real.
		I saw this over the weekend.
		This is Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell.
		And listen to him talk about a repeat offender who has done multiple crimes, multiple stops in prison, and what his philosophy is on someone like this.
unidentified		The criminal system has had a disparate impact on black and brown communities.
		Let me lead with that.
		So when this person is committing six or seven crimes, I don't know his or her story.
		I don't know.
		Maybe they were abused as a child.
		Maybe they're hungry.
		So my remedy is to find their life story to see how we could help first.
		I have no desire to put them in jail, but I need to protect you.
		And that's the calibration.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Well, you should not be mayor.
		You know, if somebody raped your sister, would it matter if they were hungry?
		I was so hungry, I just felt like I had to rape somebody.
		Would it matter?
		They were abused as a child.
		Okay, nobody wants anyone to be abused as a child.
		But if you're abused as a child and then you behead somebody, well, what should we do about that?
		You people, by leading with empathy, are actually ushering in the destruction of your city, Seattle.
		We know what's going on in Portland.
		We did the version of it in the UK.
		We're empathetic.
		Come here.
unidentified		Oh, you had a rival feud with the Qaddafi gang.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Come live with us in the UK.
		Oh, and it turns out your 22-year-old son strapped on a suicide bomb and killed 22-year-old kids at a concert in Manchester.
		Do you want to keep doing it?
		I don't think Douglas Murray wants to.
douglas murray ▲ ● ▼		I do not want to live in a country with Hamas supporters.
		I want them deported.
		I want them chucked out.
		Simple.
		And I will do everything I can to ensure that happens.
		I am fed up, by the way, of the centrist dad hand-wringing era where people say, oh, but might it be against our liberal values and might our liberalism.
		I'm not as interested in that as I am in Britain remaining Britain.
		I am much more interested in that.
		At every time of national emergency in our nation's history, we gave something up to survive.
		We did in the Napoleonic Wars, we did in the wars of the 20th century, and we will have to now.
		This is the thing we give up.
		Extending tolerance to people who do not extend it back to us.
unidentified		It should be over that era.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that it?
		I don't know anyone in the public sphere that over the last however many years has defended classical liberalism.
		I wrote a best-selling book on it.
		I believe that it is still the guiding set of values that our founders had that most people abide by in their own life.
		And then they have their own religious values or whatever it might be.
		But what he's basically saying there is, you liberals are allowing all of this nonsense.
		And enough is enough.
		So either level up, join us and get serious about defending our countries, or we're all going to go down the pit.
		We're all going to end up in that horrific, we're going to end up in the bottom.
		We're going to end up at the bottom of the pit.
		And at the bottom of the pit, it's going to be a lot of death and a lot of destruction.
		And it's going to be a spit in the face of all of our forefathers who fought a hell of a lot harder to create the great countries like Britain and like America than we've ever had to fight.
		But perhaps we are getting to that point.
		Man, this was a freaking alarm.
		This is a five-alarm Monday show.
		Was it all the sugar over the weekend?
		I don't know what it was.
		That is our show for today.
		the rest of the week we're gonna can we do something a little more you know we got to tone it down tomorrow tomorrow we'll ease well you know what I can't make any promises.
		Western civilization.
		What do you want me to do?
		Just try to save the world, guys.
		Nothing better to do than save the world.

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