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dave rubin
Previously on the Ruben.
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And it's being used, as you said, Brianna as a political symbol.
jasmine crockett
Law enforcement isn't to prevent crime.
dave rubin
You're supposed to give head, not the head.
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There are more than 1,500 people on records who have been held there more than a year.
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dave rubin
Are the police coming?
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dave rubin
All right, people, we are live.
I'm Dave Rubin.
This is the Ruben Report.
It is September 10th, 2025.
We are live streaming as we are one to do on Rumble YouTube and locals.
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I will be in Australia.
As you know, DaveRubin.com/slash events join me, special guests, all sorts of hijinks down under October.
And there is a rumor going around Miami that Copal will be back in stock on Monday.
Somebody, I heard it somewhere, and I also heard that if you go right now to drinkcopal.com, you can get on the email list so you will be the first to be notified.
That's just what I heard when I was walking the dog this morning.
Uh today's show, um, well, it's it's it's a real jump off of what we did yesterday.
And although, as you can see in the cold open there, we were able to do some, let's say, uh blue.
We worked blue a little bit in the humor, made some sexual jokes, that sort of thing.
Uh, there's really a uh disastrous problem happening in the country right now.
And this one, I think is connecting the the culture war, it's connecting the online wars, it's collect connecting the political wars, like it really has a little bit of everything, and of course you know what I'm talking about about this uh beautiful young 23-year-old refugee from Ukraine who was murdered in cold blood for no other reason,
although perhaps it had something to do with her race uh on the light rail in Charlotte, and then the the subtext to that or the side story of that is how the media covered it up, and then how they hid it and all of these things.
So we're we're gonna do a deep dive here.
We're also finding a little bit more about how this guy was let out of jail, a 14-time offender who had 16 mugshots.
I mean, it's really, really banana stuff.
So we're we're really doing a deep dive today, so all right, let's jump right in.
Uh so first off, yesterday, you may have seen it online.
We had a little internal debate as to whether we were gonna show it.
There's issues around whether we would have been demonetized or even if we would have had the this live stream taken out altogether.
The video from the light rail, the full video uh of her being stabbed, of the of her just sitting there quietly minding her own business, and then the guy sitting right behind her just stabbing and murdering her in cold blood.
That video is available.
It's out.
I saw it yesterday on X. It's unbearable.
It will be likely sort of like the October 7th video that I saw when I was in Israel, that 47-minute thing will be etched in my brain forever.
It's it's unimaginably awful.
We are not going to show you the whole video.
We're gonna show you three screenshots here.
So you've seen the first two already, of course.
Here are the images of when she's just realizing uh what has happened.
Uh, and then we will show you one other image.
It's slightly blurred out here.
Uh this is after.
So the guy, the the murderer, walks away, and that is her body on the floor, and one guy a few, you know, like moments later sort of gets involved to see if he can help her, but you can see there's blood everywhere.
It's it's just unimaginable.
So the reason I want to show you those images to start is that we really need to realize, like that girl, whether she was a Ukrainian refugee or not, whether she's white or black or anything else, whatever her political beliefs are, it could have been your mom, it could have been your sister, it could have been anyone, right?
Like even remove gender from it for a second.
It could have been literally anyone.
And until we're gonna confront some of the problems that are leading to leading people to doing things like this, then we're never gonna get out of this.
Um let's talk first about how the media kind of hid this for a little bit, right?
And you know this, because this happened actually in August.
And the only reason we it we found out about over the last couple days is because the original video was leaked online, and then everyone started talking about it online.
It got framed as a, oh my god, it's MAGA people talking about it.
But then finally it burst forth, it broke through that airlock that I'm always talking about, and mainstream had to cover it.
Here is White House spokesperson Caroline Levitt talking about how the mainstream and the Dems were ignoring this because it didn't fit the narrative.
karoline leavitt
Today I would like to address the tragedy that has not received nearly enough media attention.
The brutal murder of Arena Zarutska.
Here are the facts that many outlets have shamefully and intentionally failed to report until President Trump drew attention to it.
This beautiful, innocent 23-year-old young woman was a Ukrainian refugee who had recently fled her country for a chance at a safer life and a promising new beginning here in the United States of America.
But tragically, a public transportation system in a major American city was more dangerous than the active war zone that she left.
The president and the entire White House are praying for her family and friends during this unimaginably difficult time.
But while we extend our thoughts and prayers, we must also seek justice for this crime and call attention to this heinous incident.
De Carlos Brown Jr.
Pull out a knife, get up from his seat behind Arena, and prepare to thrust a blade into her neck.
The most enraging and unacceptable part of this story is that her death was entirely preventable.
De Carlos Brown never should have been on that train that night.
In fact, he should have been behind bars.
De Carlos Brown has been charged with crimes no fewer than 14 times, dating back to 2011, including for armed robbery, felony larceny, breaking and entering in shoplifting.
dave rubin
Alright, so it's just worth noting for a second.
Like, think really how much better she is than Jen Saki or Corinne Jean Pierre.
Just imagine what not only is she better at her job because she's a better communicator and she knows what she's talking about, but think about the ways they would be spinning this and all that.
She's just laying out flat truth.
So okay, I want to just lay this out this way.
There are four parts I would say to this story.
There's, you know, that well, I guess there's five.
There's a murder.
There is a murder that should not have taken place.
That's number one.
Okay, so then the other four would be this is this illustrates the chaos that is happening in blue cities that you are well aware of.
Then there's the racial element, which doesn't fit the intersectional calculator.
That's number two.
Then there's the criminal justice portion of it, which is that we have this rotating uh system where people can be convicted of things 14 times, have 16 mugshots, et cetera, et cetera, and still get out.
And then, of course, there's the the big one, which is the media reaction, or I suppose I should say, lack of reaction to it until we force them to do it.
Here's a bit more from Levitt about the Democrat judge who released DeCarlos Brown.
karoline leavitt
Brown was arrested yet again in January of this past year.
A Democrat judge, who will I will add, was a supporter, a strong supporter of former vice president Kamala Harris, released this insane criminal once again, without requiring him to pay any bail.
He simply had to sign a written promise to return for his court hearing.
Think about how crazy it is to ask a career criminal, someone who by definition repeatedly breaks the law to just sign a written promise and come back again another day.
This is madness.
This monster should have been locked up, and Arena should still be alive.
But Democrat politicians, liberal judges, and weak prosecutors would rather virtue signal than lock up criminals and protect their communities.
And perhaps most shamefully of all, the majority of the media, many outlets in this room decided that her murder was not worth reporting on originally because it does not fit a preferred narrative.
Many of the journalists in this room spilled plenty of ink, trying to smear Daniel Penny for defending a subway car from a deranged lunatic in New York City.
But none of those same reporters lift a finger to write stories about an actual murderer.
dave rubin
Alright, so I think you understand why this story is so important now, because it's hitting so many touch points.
Uh, Phoenix just made a good point.
So I said there were five parts.
There's really six parts.
So murder, like just that there is just murder happening.
Okay, so that's the easy one, right?
Then I said there's this issue about blue city crime.
We get that.
So that's number two.
There's the race element and how it's sort of backwards in this one.
There's the criminal justice element of these people that go into jail and then just get out by, oh, I signed a note saying I won't do it again.
And then the other one, what I would say, which is really interesting, is that at the most human level, this woman, 23-year-old refugee from Ukraine, put aside what your feelings about Ukraine, Russia, and everything else.
She fled a war.
She was a refugee from a war zone, who then accomplished the dream, the dream of people all over the world, which is to come to the United States of America to pursue her happiness, to live a free life, to see if she could make it.
And then, I mean, think about the the just like existentially what that is.
Like a I don't know how long ago she got here, but let's say it was about a year ago that she got here.
But she led left the war zone only to be murdered on the streets of New York City.
It's like, or I'm sorry, of Charlotte.
It's like it's really hard to kind of wrap your brain around that.
So she survived a war but couldn't survive a U.S. city.
Now I want to show you Donald Trump's statement on this, and then we'll have a bit more on that judge.
donald j trump
For far too long, Americans have been forced to put up with Democrat-run cities that set loose savage, bloodthirsty criminals to prey on innocent people.
Really very, very innocent people.
In every place they control radical left judges, politicians, and activists, and they've adopted a policy of catch and release for thugs and killers.
In Charlotte, North Carolina, we saw the results of these policies when a 23-year-old woman who came here from Ukraine, met her bloody end on a public train.
And here's a picture of it.
This is the picture of it.
And this is a picture of the woman, a beautiful young girl that never had problems in life.
With a magnificent future in this country.
And now she's dead.
She was slaughtered by a deranged monster who was roaming free after 14 prior arrests.
We have to respond with force and strength.
We have to be vicious just like they are.
It's the only thing they understand.
Twenty-four of the top 25 most dangerous cities in America run by Democrat mayors.
Fifth were murdered in Chicago in recent weeks with hundreds being shot.
And it's time to stop this madness.
dave rubin
Yeah, it is time to stop this madness, right?
Why is it that in our inner cities, people are now afraid to go out at night?
We played you the video yesterday of that young woman in New York City who did a selfie video because a guy was chasing her around the subway.
Why is it people are just afraid to go to the subway altogether?
Like all of the things, the drug addicts on the streets, all of that stuff.
Also, kind of keep in mind for a moment that had Donald Trump not won this election, and it was Kamala or even it was autopengai or whatever, it's like they would never be giving that speech right there.
And thank God, once again, that we have the alt media and that Elon bought X because this never would have even bubbled up.
Now there's a bit more coming out about the judge here, and we did a little research, and there's something really interesting happening here.
So first listen to this.
This is from Lauren Whitska, who is uh commentator on X. The judge who released the Carlos Brown Jr.'s uh murderer of Irina Zarutska was magistrate judge Teresa Stokes.
She freed Brown in January of 2025, approximately seven months before the fatal stabbing on August 22nd, 2025.
She did not attend law school, she did not have to pass the bar.
She was completely unqualified and hand-selected and appointed to the position to protect criminal blacks in her community.
It's time for white people to start doing the same.
Okay, so she editorializes a little bit at the end there.
But when I read this tweet, I was actually shocked.
Are you telling me that a judge, a magistrate or regular judge, somehow doesn't have to pass the bar exam?
How is that possible?
How is the person who's ruling on the law can actually have sort of less qualifications than the people who were making the arguments?
So we did a little research on this, and it is in fact true.
Listen to this from ChatGPT.
Some judges don't need to pass the bar because certain roles, like Local or magistrate judges handle limited routine cases.
States allow non-lawyers in these positions relying on training instead of full attorney qualifications.
Boy, do you guys see now if we were to start connecting this to a little bit of DEI and everything else, how corrupt a system would become?
So you allow there's routine cases.
You could sort of think about it probably as remember, if you're a child of the 80s, remember the show Night Court, right?
So as people come in for little things, petty larceny, you know, someone was drinking out on the street at night, whatever it might be.
The judge who is put in place there, even though the lawyers have to pass the bar, of course, to practice law in any state in the union, the judge there can just be appointed by somebody and trained.
Well, now do you see?
Look, I don't have the exact connection to the DEI part, but do you see why this would make sense if you just have a system?
Well, we just have to train people.
They don't have to know anything particular about the law, but we have to train them.
And then you could see how ideology would leak in.
Uh listen to this from North Carolina Congressman uh Tim Moore.
Today I led a letter calling for the removal of magistrate judge Teresa Stokes, who released a 14-time offender who went on to murder Arena Zarutska in Charlotte.
This tragedy was preventable.
There must be accountability.
North Carolinians deserve better, and they damn well do.
This woman should never step foot into court again.
I think we should start, hopefully, someone over there, maybe this congressman.
How about we do a little research?
Let's find out about her training.
Let's find out a little bit more about her and her political beliefs.
Let's find out about the entire system.
And then maybe you need to rethink the idea of magistrate judges who don't have to say pass the bar exam and who just have to be trained, likely by activists who are in the system.
A bit more on everything happening here from Colin Rugg.
Breaking the Department of Justice has uh smacked De Carlos Dewan Brown Jr. with a federal charge after the horrific slaying of Ukrainian refugee Arena Zarutska.
FBI Director Cash Patel and Attorney General Pam Bondi say they're seeking maximum penalty.
The brutal attack on Arena Zarutska on the Charlotte Light Rail was a disgraceful act that should never happen in America.
Patel said the FBI jumped in to assist in this investigation immediately to ensure justice is served, and the perpetrator is never released from jail to kill again.
I want to thank Attorney General Pam Bondi for her pursuit of today's federal charges, which are the first step towards delivering justice for Arena and her family, as well as the millions of Americans who deserve to live in our great American cities free from being targeted by violent criminals.
I've directed my attorneys to federally prosecute to Carlos Brown Jr., a repeat offender with a history of violent crime for murder, Bondi said.
We will seek the maximum penalty for this unforgivable act of violence.
He will never again see the light of day as a free man.
So the question now is if is this happened in Charlotte, so what does this have to do with the federal government?
So the federal government's going to go after him as well.
In a normal murder case, this would be left to the state to deal with it.
But there may be something here as it pertains to federal hate crimes.
This is U.S. Attorney General from North Carolina, Russ Ferguson talking about hate crimes as it pertains to DeCarlos.
It's a flip on what we think of as hate crimes.
Hate crimes are supposed to only be white people against brown people.
This one's different.
Listen to Ferguson.
unidentified
That there's potential for other federal charges.
Maybe it includes hate crime or racially motivated crime, some sort of definition.
Looking into, yes, we're looking into every available charge in this case.
If we find facts that this was gender motivated or race motivated, we will absolutely bring a federal civil rights charge in this case.
dave rubin
Okay, so a federal civil rights charge.
So do you understand that?
That's what's going on here.
There, it's not, you can't just magically be like, oh, this case is really, really big.
We're gonna suddenly make it a federal case.
There has to be a reason for it.
And the reason for it in this case, if they're coming with the hate crime charge, that is gonna be it.
And we checked and let me just read to you what a federal hate crime actually Let me read the actual uh textbook definition.
A federal hate crime is a hate crime, is a cr uh a hate crime is a criminal offense, such as assault or vandalism that is motivated in whole or in part by offenders' bias against a victim's protected characteristic, including race, religion, sexual orientation, gender disability, or national origin.
Now, what's interesting about this, now you might argue, and I think you can make a cogent argument that that hate crimes shouldn't exist, meaning the idea that just because you do it because of someone's race, that that shouldn't make it any worse, right?
So you randomly attack a black person, you randomly attack a Jew or a white person or an Asian person, that inherently doesn't make the crime worse.
So there's some argument around that.
However, these laws exist.
I'm not even making that argument, I'm just trying to be fair about it.
Uh, but can you put can you go put that back up?
Note, it doesn't say it doesn't count to white people.
So the offender's bias against a victim protected protected characteristics, including race, religion, sexual orientation, gender disability, or national origin.
So the idea there is, oh, sexual orientation.
If a gay person is attacked over their sexual orientation, however, you could attack someone just because they're straight, some crazed trans lunatic could attack a straight person.
Guess what?
That would then be a hate crime.
A black person attacking a white person by this definition is a hate crime.
So this is going to be considered a federal hate crime, and we shall see where it falls out.
Now we're gonna get, we're gonna jump to a little bit of the media portion of this, which again, I'm I'm always interested in that, because you know the truth exists, and they're always muddling it, so we can't quite see it.
But this is gonna get a little harder for them to muddle, thank God.
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All right, so now let's get to the media portion of this.
Of course, the meta story around everything is that the media wants you to see certain things when it fits and doesn't want you to see other things when it doesn't fit.
Let's jump over to CNN and Abby Phillip, who, as I always say, this is the dumbest woman on television.
There is simply nothing behind her eyes.
She is up there temporarily at eight o'clock, I guess the show is on, and they will put her up for a year and then they'll replace her.
It's just about the chair that sits there.
Uh anyway, here they are.
Uh, this is from I think two days ago.
And they are, as she's with Van Jones, and they somehow try to make this about Charlie Kirk, of course, MAGA, Charlie Kirk, and that there's no evidence that this was racially motivated, take a look.
abby phillip
It's an above force to be there.
When you are mentally ill, you have a hard time knowing that you are mentally ill.
But also, I mean, people like Charlie Kirk Van, they've been looking for opportunities to make this some sort of like reciprocal George Floyd situation.
And I I that's the part that I think he's almost giving away the game, and uh it it it's sad to see a lot of people going along with it.
van jones
You know, let me just say a couple of things.
One is I mean, what happened to that young woman was horrible.
And it's everybody's nightmare, if you're in a public space, uh subway, whatever, that something bad's gonna happen to you or somebody you care about.
So it does strike a chord.
We don't know why that man did what he did.
And for Charlie Kirk to say, we know he did it because she's white when there's no evidence of that, is just pure race uh race mongering, hate mongering, it's wrong.
dave rubin
Okay, so first off, let me just tell you a little about a little bit about how these shows work.
That was absolutely intentional.
Abby Phillips spoke to producers and they wanted to make this about Charlie Kirk.
He's uh he's an avatar for sort of MAGA right, he's very outspoken.
Okay, fine.
Uh but then Van goes in there and he says the nice part first.
He often is crying, but he says the nice part first, which is the true part, that this is an unimaginable nightmare, nobody would want this to happen, you know, blah, blah, blah.
But then he makes it seem that this has nothing to do with race.
Um, well, why don't we show you something that will uh perhaps slightly blow the Van Jones spot?
van jones
We don't know why that man did what he did.
And for Charlie Kirk to say, "We know he did it because she's white," when there's no evidence of that, it's just pure race mongering, hate mongering.
unidentified
Oh, you got it, I got it, y'all.
You got it, I got it, y'all.
Oh, shit.
Oh, oh, oh.
dave rubin
you Okay, so there you have Van saying that Charlie's making this up for political purposes, and then only hours later, more video is released.
I got that white girl, I got that white girl.
Again, I know that you watching this and me, we don't care about the racial angle.
It's a horrific thing that happens either way, but we do know that if the races had been flipped, that Van would be making this about race.
Um and this is just the standard way that these people play all of these games.
And the more that they've hidden all of this racial stuff, the more that it's bubbling up.
If you're concerned that Charlie Kirk and a portion of the right or a portion of the people online are becoming racist, it probably has more to do with your behavior than anything else.
Now, I saw that clip that uh Van saying that this was about Charlie and he was looking for it and whatever, and then I saw the video of the guy saying I got that white girl.
I tweeted this out, it went it went pretty crazy online.
Van Jones, this was yesterday afternoon.
Van Jones has to issue an apology to Charlie live on air today or should never be allowed in the CNN building again.
As far as I know, can we check Van's feed?
Did we check it in the last 20 minutes or so?
He has not issued an apology.
Abby Phillips should have opened her show last night and said, on my show yesterday, one of my guests said something that has been proven to be demonstrably false because there is video of it.
But she didn't do that either.
So Van was acting as an activist, which is which is what he is.
I don't know if he considers himself a journalist, but he's he's an activist and he just he got one wrong because it didn't fit his it didn't fit his narrative, right?
But Abby Phillip and the people at CNN, how does CNN forget Abby Phillip having to issue the apology?
CNN at the top of the show, yesterday on our show.
Yes, it's an opinion show, but someone said something that was so profoundly 180 of the truth that we have to address that actually the killer himself moments later said, I got that white girl.
But I'm guessing CNN didn't do it last night.
I will gladly correct myself if someone can show me that they did do it last night.
And is there anything on Van's Twitter feed?
And of course on Van's Twitter feed, think how easy it would be.
Think how easy it would be.
You know my policy on corrections here, and if I make a mistake or I misspeak or whatever, I love doing it.
I love doing it because, well, I don't know, for some for some reason I suppose it comes natural to me, but I like doing it because it's like I'm a human.
I'm a human being sitting in a chair wearing a jacket telling you the news, just like these people.
I'm a human being, and human beings are flawed.
So why is it that you guys can't even do that?
I had one other tweet that that a lot of people thought and um encapsulated this quite well.
Uh the left has cried false racism for so long that they now have to bury their heads in the sand when real racism literally murders a young woman in cold blood.
So if that quote right there, I got that white girl, if that's not enough to show you that this was racist, I don't know what it is.
Now again, you can make a cogent argument that whether it was racist or not is irrelevant, right?
If it had been a black man stabbing a black woman for no reason, a young 23-year-old beautiful black woman for no reason, does that make it worse or better?
Like you absolutely can make that argument.
But in a world where we are where they push a fake racist narrative on us all the time, then when something real pops up, they have to run and hide from it, right?
And that is the deranged part.
Uh, here's uh an edit of Van Jones that I think you'll understand why we're showing.
van jones
It is very clear that this country is is is uh still struggling with racism.
We still have racism showing up in almost every institution.
We don't know why that man did what he did.
And for Charlie Kirk to say, we know he did it because she's white, when there's no evidence of that, is just pure race uh race mongering, hate mongering.
It's wrong.
dave rubin
Yeah, so Van, it's like I I know he's not horrible.
He's not a horrible person in in the scheme of like where a lot of these people shake out, right?
He's not one of the worst.
But dude, you're on TV years ago telling us that our institutions are racist and everything else, and there's all this racism here.
So You're going out of your way to say that.
Even though I guess in some sense you were right, our institutions were racist.
They were racist against Asians and Jews and white people, but that's not exactly what you were talking about, of course.
Um, and here in this case, when it actually is about racism, you go out of your way to say it's not about racism, only to be proven wrong moments later, and then not have the like the decency as a human being.
Like you got to apologize to Charlie Kirk.
You may hate Charlie Kirk, you may disagree with everything Charlie Kirk says, but you you guys intentionally, that's what the producers did.
We're gonna make this segment about this murder about Charlie Kirk, and then you absolutely lied about his position.
So I guess you don't have to do anything because you're on CNN and there's no standards there.
You're not gonna be smacked on the wrist, and they're not gonna dock your pay.
You don't have to do anything.
But my recommendation as a human being, uh, Van Jones would be just go ahead and do it, and you'll gain a little bit of respect, maybe from people that you don't respect.
I guess that would be the problem.
My friend Winston Marshall was on Fox last night with Jesse Waters talking about this, of course, asymmetry when you when it comes to race and these murders.
winston marshall
That I'm witnessing a two-tier America.
And it seems to me without question, had the perpetrator been a white male of the same victim, we'd have been told, oh, look, America is systemically misogynistic, toxic masculinity.
If it had been a black perpetrator with a white vic uh uh uh if it had been a white perpetrator with a black victim, we'd have been told America is uh systemically racist.
Racist to the core.
In fact, that has happened on several occasions.
When this happens, what do we hear in response?
Well, actually, it seems that most of the corporate media have been shhtum about the thing.
And you mentioned DEI there.
DEI is the same thing.
It's two-tier.
It's one rule for one group of people and another rule for another group of people.
I say this coming from Britain.
In Britain, we have had decades of two-tier system, and there are terrible consequences.
First of all, there are more victims.
If you don't punish these people, if they are not incarcerated and properly dealt with, if they don't meet the heavy hand of the law, they commit offenses again.
Secondly, and now this is what we're seeing in Britain uh uh every weekend, almost every day, is protests.
People have had enough.
If people feel that the system is treating one group differently to another, they don't present the system, they resent the other group.
dave rubin
Ah, that's a great line.
They don't resist, they don't resent the system, they resent the other group.
So you want racists, you're making racists.
It reminds me of that clip that I show you all the time of uh Peterson, Jordan Peterson on Rogan a couple of years ago, where he's talking about boy, you crazy lefties, you guys are ruining so many things that wait till you see what happens on the right, and God forbid this thing, the Pandora's box get full gets fully opened here, and we will end up in some sort of crazy race riot.
That's again why I'm saying if you just remove race from this altogether, if you j if you actually were trying to be a colorblind society, it shouldn't matter to anyone the race of any of this.
But within the prism that these people are always making us look at everything through, where we should always see race all the time, whether you're watching a children's show or it's something breaking in the news, or whether it has something to do with sports or anything else, you're everything's always about race.
Well, congratulations now.
Now you got one that doesn't fit the the cyst, it doesn't fit the narrative that you like.
And the fallout from that I think is gonna be quite disastrous across the board.
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Okay, so it does not have to be like this, and it is not this way in all of the states in the United States.
And here is a line from a guy that I often quote that proves just that.
ron desantis
I believe that decline is a choice.
I believe success is attainable, and I know that freedom is worth fighting for.
dave rubin
Okay, so decline is a choice if you live in a place that releases criminals without them having done their whole sentence.
That allows people to not go to jail, even though they've, you know, been a repeat offender 14 times.
That that encourages mayhem that says, you know what?
Oh, jump the turnstile.
Don't pay.
The rest of you who pay you are all suckers.
That allows drugs on the streets.
That allows petty theft.
Oh, you want to sell uh you want to steal $700 worth of deodorant.
It's a lot of a lot of things of degree from CBS.
Go ahead and do it.
It it is a choice.
It is a choice.
It's a choice by you, the people, because you, the people, we the people are the ones that elect these buffoons.
So since DeSantis was the one that coined that phrase, as far as I know, decline is the choice.
Let's find out a little bit about what's going on here in Florida where we choose something a little bit different.
ron desantis
It should come as no surprise to anybody who's been alive for the past six years that Florida's a law and order state.
Uh, we believe in supporting the people that wear the uniform.
We believe in holding criminals accountable.
Uh the result has been our crime rate is at a 50-year low.
Uh, you didn't see cities burning down during the BLM riots here when Hamas tried to take over roads in Orlando and Miami.
Uh, they were removed in 11 and 13 minutes, respectively, including by Florida Highway Patrol in Central Florida.
Uh, we don't let the inmates run the asylum.
We're not gonna let people's quality of life be destroyed because we're embracing toxic ideologies and the woke agenda, and we've been very clear on that.
dave rubin
So it's a choice, and if you live in a place that has made the choice, well, then you're in a lot of trouble because when the power is taken away from the people, oh, the system will just protect me and do all these things.
We see what the fruits of that are.
We showed you this video yesterday.
We've shown it to you before, but I love it.
It is worth showing again, and we're gonna show it to you many other times.
What will happen to you if you walk into my house in Florida?
unidentified
Uh, as to the person, we don't know what homeowner which homeowner shot at him.
Um, I guess they think that they did something wrong, which they did not.
If somebody's breaking in your house, you're more than welcome to shoot them in Santa Rosa County.
We prefer that you do, actually.
Um, so whoever that was, you're not in trouble.
Come see us.
We have a gun safety class we put on every other Saturday, and if you take that, you'll shoot a lot better, and hopefully you'll save taxpayers' money.
dave rubin
That's how we do it, and it's not just about saving taxpayers' money.
You're gonna save lives, actually, if someone because you're because the very threat of knowing, oh, you're gonna break into someone's house and they might be armed and shoot you will increase uh or will decrease the desire of the criminal to break into the house.
I love it's just like uh it's a throwaway line.
We'd prefer if you do.
And it's like, yeah, you're gonna make it easier for the police to do policing if people properly can take care of their property and their family, etc.
etc.
So that's Florida.
Now let's jump to a place that really became the epicenter of all this.
Obviously, we're talking about Charlotte right now as it pertains to this specific case.
Uh but the city that we've been talking about for about a week, uh, because of the general mayhem and 7,000 murders in 10 years, of course, is Chicago.
Nick Shirley, who's uh he's a great, he gets out on the ground in some really wacky situations.
Well, he went to the hood in Chicago and he talked to some of the locals.
unidentified
And what would happen if a cop pulled up right now and they saw us with this thing?
van jones
Uh I'm belling.
unidentified
And now, if you brother got shot, how do you feel about gun violence?
And yeah, you ready for the gun violence to stop?
Or no.
Living here in Chicago, we've been talking with these guys right here, and is it pretty dangerous to be walking around these streets?
Hell yeah, I ain't gonna bow.
Is that why you're walking out with a shot?
I got up thrown by four pipes in one day.
And that was that was the first day I ever even knew how to hit a lady.
dave rubin
Omar Garmo.
van jones
Don't come through plan.
We're gonna leave your ass right hand is live.
unidentified
That threat.
van jones
However, you want to take it.
unidentified
Okay.
Now the sun has set, and it's getting a little dark out here.
You're just out here puffing.
Don't puff in my face.
I don't give me a headache.
How old are the kids out here when they first get their first guns?
Initiative.
14 and sh like that.
van jones
11.
Man, they out, they just trying to do what they're trying to do.
unidentified
You You switch me side, don't want me next time.
You got me covered, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You are state.
van jones
You know what's going on.
unidentified
Okay, so we do got some backup if anything does happen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got one bullet shot right here, one right there, and then you have a literal bullet in your rib.
Yeah.
What kind of bullet you got in here?
Uh there's like a 40.
40.
That hurt when I go like that.
Yeah, no, I can't feel that.
What do the girls think about the bullet when they take the shirt off?
They're like, dang, this guy got some respect on his name.
I'm a little survivor.
They be trying to touch with him.
Y'all know how we coming.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
dave rubin
Nick, I have two words for you.
Health insurance.
Let's make sure that you're paying your premiums and you're caught up, man, because this is not going to end well.
I mean, he's brave for doing that.
But look, it illustrates what's going on in these inner cities.
What is happening?
Why do those young people have guns?
Why are they proud about the criminality and the shooting and all of those things?
And again, why is it that for years when anyone talked about this on mainstream media, and it really was only two people, Hannity and O'Reilly on Fox, uh, they were called racists.
They were absolutely called racist for caring about the fact that young black people were in this situation getting killed and everything else.
So you know, look, most of the national conversation right now is about policing, but there is something else that needs to be discussed here because people don't just start murdering people for no reason, right?
Like, the yes, is there a mental health component to this?
So is our do a certain amount of people have like screwy brain chemistry and do awful things and maybe don't get the help that they need, yes.
But there's another portion of this, something that my friend Larry Elder has been talking about for decades.
Decades of Thomas Sol was talking about it, Larry Elder's been talking about many people have actually been talking about over the last couple years, or at least it's become a little more okay to talk about, uh, which is around family and the percentage of families that are broken uh within the white and black community.
So I'm just gonna read some numbers to you.
These are just these are just the numbers.
So black families, this is from Chat GPT, black families in 1960, 65 to 75 percent of children lived with two parents.
That's pretty good 1960.
In 2020, only 37% lived with two biological parents.
In 1965, 24% of black babies were born out of wedlock.
In 2020, 70% of black babies now occur outside of marriage.
55% of children live in father-absent homes.
In white families, 1960, 93% lived with two parents.
2020, 75% live with two parents.
1965, only three to four percent of births were outside of wedlock.
In 2020, 27 to 28% of births outside wedlock.
So it's going in the wrong direction on both white and black.
And again, I don't really care about the race thing.
But if you were to say, do you think there's maybe a connection between young people who get involved in drugs and criminality and everything else because there's an absentee father or there's some other stuff, you know, going on at home that's not proper, and blah, blah, blah.
Like we all kind of know that that's fundamentally right.
Like if you have a good family structure at home, and of course, I absolutely believe families can come in all sorts of colors and stripes and everything else.
But if you have a good structure at home, that's kind of the basis for everything.
That's why the family is the basic building block of a functional society.
Um, this is a this is a video from a couple of months ago, but I think it also illustrates how they never want you to see reality.
And Jasmine Crockett, Lady Eyelashes, who's become a big star, big star with the Democrats, who apparently was a lawyer.
She passed the bar exam.
The magistrate judge can't pass the bar exam, but this woman passed the bar exam.
I mean, that's a pretty low, that's a pretty low bar.
Thank you.
Um here she is talking about how 80% of the violent crimes in our country are done by white supremacists.
jasmine crockett
And if you really want to know who the criminals are in this country, you can Google it.
You don't have to trust me.
But the people that commit 80% of the most violent crimes in this country are white supremacists.
Yet for whatever reason, they sit and they serve at the pleasure of the president.
They are the ones that were there on January 6th, tearing our democracy down physically, and now we have them tearing us down right here from the usual January 6th, but you don't have she says you don't have to trust me.
dave rubin
Well, hot damn, I don't trust you, lady, and that's why we did a little research here.
Uh, this from ChatGPT.
80% she said 80% of the most violent crimes, white supremacists.
That seemed a bit much to me.
Uh, while white supremacists are indeed responsible for some extremist violence, the data does not support the broader claim that they commit 80% of the most violent crimes overall.
A Reuters' summary of ADL data shows that in 2022, over 80% of extremist-related murders were committed by white supremacists, but that refers strictly to extremist murders, not all violent crime in the US.
Uh house documents and another source indicates that in 2019, 78% of domestic extremist killings were by white supremacists within the subset of right-wing extremist violence.
We I don't have to read the rest.
The point is, if you look at it in a very, very narrow lens, something she said there is kind of true, but that's you'd have to admit all of the other murder, all of the other murder that takes place.
But also putting all of that aside, lady, why does that excite you?
Why are you so excited to tell us about white extremist murder?
You are black.
I don't care that you're black, but you are black.
And I would imagine as a black person that is always telling us how we are all racist white supremacists, it seems to me you would care about the people of Chicago or maybe of Houston who are getting killed who happen to be black, but you never do that.
Uh this next clip, well, chalk it up to a broken clock is right twice a day, because Joe Scarborough, who's obviously an utter buffoon and a ridiculous clown of a human being over on the televised mental institution over there, he gets on with this guy, Eddie Glaude.
We've shown you a couple clips of him in the last few days.
He's usually crying.
This guy again, he does not cry here, so that's he's definitely toughening up in these hard times.
Uh but Eddie's trying to explain how uh more cops doesn't reduce crime.
And even Joe, even Joe is like, uh, dude, why?
eddie glaude
Let's think about policing differently as we try to address an issue of safety, which every community deserves.
Does that make sense?
mika brzezinski
It does.
Well, Joe, take it.
joe scarborough
Um, but the thing is, uh you you you you talk about how cops on the streets won't make a difference.
I will tell you that one poll after another uh has suggested otherwise when you speak to black Americans, when you speak to poorer Americans.
eddie glaude
No, Joe, I'm not just speaking as an academic.
I'm speaking as a black man who has been reared in the United States with a deep-seated suspicion about whether or not police actually are engaged in protecting our communities.
Right?
Having having had to talk right from from a from a young man, from a young boy.
So there's not this relationship to the police that you're that you're presupposing.
And let me just say this, I think.
joe scarborough
No, no, no, no, no, no.
eddie glaude
Let me just make this point.
joe scarborough
Hold on, hold on, Addie.
I'm not presuming I'm not presupposing anything.
I am giving you data.
And by the way, are you live are you living the same experience that you're talking about that we've talked about on this show for 18 years with you and Gene Robertson, everybody else?
But is your experience in Princeton the same as somebody's an anacoscopy?
eddie glaude
Of course not.
Of course not.
There are class differences, they're class differences.
dave rubin
Yeah.
Well done, Joe.
I I can't believe it.
I'll give you some credit here.
Like, well done, man.
First off, he you see what the what uh Glaude tries to do there.
Everything is about his lived experience.
It has nothing to do with data or anything else, right?
Uh but the point is, you're your what did he say, where is he?
He's in uh in Princeton, right?
So it's like, yeah, you're in a place that has probably high economic status and safety with police and everything else, so you're not that concerned about policing.
Why wouldn't you want more?
Are you saying, are you saying that in the inner cities where these young people are being killed, are you saying that if they sent more cops in there, the cops would be just looking to execute these people?
That seems to be the inclination or the implication of what they are always saying.
That sending police into places where there is mayhem means that we're gonna start executing young black people.
It's completely psychotic.
If two blocks from my house, regardless of race, there was a drug den, we knew that there were young people wandering around with machine guns or series of other things, and there was just general criminality happening.
Do you would I want the police or not want?
No, no, I'll just let it be.
Let it be.
I wouldn't want to upset anybody.
It's just profoundly absurd.
But if your intersectional matrix, if your view of the world puts everything is about racism at the top, your policy positions are going to be quite stupid and actually, as I said earlier, probably create conditions for other people to actually become racist.
We're going to connect some of this to the Sanctuary City part of this, which is an immigration thing, but these things are not disconnected.
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All right, so we're going to connect this to the illegal illegal immigration situation and the Sanctuary City situation.
Uh, and these stories, this the meta story around it is very similar.
What were we told for years about illegal immigration?
It's not happening, don't worry about it.
Then finally the videos break online.
Mainstream media tells you, oh, you're not really seeing what you're seeing, or it's only because racist or people are telling you you're seeing what you're seeing, and then eventually they realize it's a problem.
It's the exact same thing as the criminal thing, right?
It's not what's happening in the cities, don't worry about it.
Oh, the videos are only being shown because crazy right-wingers like Charlie Kirkworth, oh, it's actually happening.
Watch this.
This is former ICE Director Jonathan Fahy explaining exactly what was always true and everyone should have always known was true, which is that sanctuary cities should not exist in the first place.
brianna keilar
As you're watching this and we're expecting this impending action in Chicago and other sanctuary cities, do you see this as the most effective approach?
jonathan fahey
Yes, I do in a couple of ways.
One, the sanctuary cities, as you know, like Chicago, when they arrest an illegal alien on another crime, a state crime, they will not even turn them over to ICE.
They'll release them back in the community, making it harder for ICE to do their job, which is to deport the most serious criminal aliens.
So that part of it is effective to get the most serious criminals out.
The second part of it is a deterrent aspect because some of these sanctuary cities like Chicago probably are not going to change their policies because Governor Prisker wants to be the Democratic nominee for president, but many others will.
So this will make advice easier for to do their jobs when they can get criminals arrested in jail rather than having to go out in the community, which they're having to do in Chicago and Boston and places like that.
So this is gonna be incredibly effective.
The citizens of Chicago will be thankful most of them will be safer because of this.
And I think all overall it's a major win, and and it's very important that it's done because Chicago, Illinois, Boston, Massachusetts, any of those places, they're not a title have their own immigration policy is Yes.
dave rubin
First off, every word he said there was absolutely true.
How did we let how did things get so far down the rabbit hole here that anyone thought the idea of a sanctuary city was was right or legal in the first place, right?
The federal government's in charge of the border, and the fact that some cities were like, okay, you can just come here, just come here and you're gonna use our services and whatever, like that in and of itself was wrong, right?
And never put to a referendum of the people.
That's one thing.
But then the fact that local law enforcement, as he points out, they would arrest people for, say, some sort of petty crime, and then they would be look at their record and be like, oh, and you're not even a legal member of the United States, but then because we're a sanctuary city, we're just not even gonna put in a phone call.
Hey, FYI, we got the MS-13 guy here.
He was still on a Pepsi.
Like, It's just, it's just profoundly absurd, and people are realizing that this is not tenable much longer.
It just is not.
Now let's jump over to the televised mental institution known as MSNBC, at least for a little while longer.
And they had Tom Homan on, uh, and Tom Homan, of course, is in charge of taking the illegals and getting them out of the country.
And Mika Brzezinski, who's married to Joe Scarborough in a marriage made in Mordor itself.
Um here she is completely making up that the this notion, we've talked about it before, that ICE is disappearing people.
They're just di people are just wandering, and then it's like uh what's his name?
Uh not Bain, uh it's like Thanos, boom, they're just gone.
mika brzezinski
I'd like to, I'd love some transparency as to why a lot of these people have been disappeared.
You say you have d data, uh we we would love to see it.
The American people should see this data.
tom homan
Well, here's the rhetoric again, right?
You just meant disappeared.
That was ridiculous thing to say.
Because ISIS is doing the same thing we've done for decades.
But because of the last four years, ICE wasn't allowed to enforce a law.
ICE was told to sit back and and you can't arrest an illegal alien for simply being here legally.
You gotta wait till they commit a serious crime and can conviction of that crime.
That's the Secretary of Majorca's instructions work.
And that's why you saw so much there's so much crime in this country coming from the illegal alien population because there's no there's no law law enforcement.
But we're doing the same thing right now that we've done when I started back in 1984.
ICE agents are enforcing the laws enacted by Congress.
They're appropriate to funding them for seeing laws.
If you don't like ICE is doing, then go protest Congress.
However, to say we disappeared people, no, we're arresting people that are in the country legally and they are public safety threat.
dave rubin
Yeah, so show me someone who has disappeared, Mika.
You just say it, and it's you put it out there, and you think by the by the very nature of you saying it, it's true.
It's just not how it works.
Again, he perfectly illustrates the point I made earlier that Mayorchus was telling these sanctuary cities, and it was the mayors in these cities and the governors.
Like, okay, if they commit some they're here illegally in the first place, which is illegal, but if they commit some kind of crime, don't coordinate with ICE.
Don't coordinate.
So actively break the law.
And all that Trump and and Holman and the rest of them are trying to do is just get back get things back to an even playing field.
You break the law, you're illegal, you gotta go.
It's not racist, it has nothing to do with disappearing.
You don't need five righteous gemstones to put in a big glove to do it.
It's just, it's just that's it.
That's it.
Uh I thought this was an interesting one.
This is from the leading report yesterday.
Breaking ICE arrests Guatemalan illegal alien sexual predator, and uh he appears to be a little person or a dwarf, and uh, you know, what do you call a criminal dwarf going down the stairs?
A little con descending.
So I mean, I should have had a pie thrown in my face for that one.
That was that was just terrible.
Uh let's uh shift for a moment all together and talk about the uh overdrugging of America.
Because there's a guy by the name of Bobby Kennedy, and he would prefer that you have a little less poison in your system, that you stop giving your children cereal that's going to kill them, things of that nature.
Thus he's become a crazed right-wing maniac and everything else.
Uh, and because he now is is actually changing things, a lot of people are really pissed at him.
Uh, but here he is talking about how yesterday Donald Trump signed an executive order uh so that we will not have TV drug ads that hide what they might actually do to you, kind of like every other country in the nation in the world.
robert f kennedy-jr
The president just signed an executive order that's an historic change in the way that pharmaceutical advertising is done on television.
And the order basically reinstates or gives us now the the opportunity to reinstate the 1997 rules.
Prior to 1997, pharmaceutical advertisers were required to put all the side effects on their ads.
Many of them didn't advertise because it lengthened the it because of what it did to the length of the advertising.
And that the removal of that requirement uh uh direct in 1997, FDA changed the rule to allow them to report the side effects on a website or on a telephone.
And they know they only had to report a few of them on television.
And that triggered a proliferation of these ads.
dave rubin
Think how crazy this is.
So Trump signs the executive order, so they're gonna have to do this.
But when you watch all of these ads that we see all the time, they st they've already been putting a huge amount of them in there.
What he's saying is that there's actually way more, and we know this because you know, at the end of all of these ads where the Cartoon Cloud's following the guy because he's depressed, which that would make anyone depressed if Cartoon Cloud was following you.
They tell you, and then okay, you're gonna have restless leg syndrome, you're gonna shit in your pants, you're gonna have thoughts of suicide, you're gonna kill your sister.
And then they do that real quick.
But then at the end of that, then there's all this text that's tiny that you can't read.
Well, they're not going to be allowed to do that anymore.
And that obviously is good.
This is the guy that every that the entire machine thinks is so evil and everything else.
And all he's doing is saying, hey, the companies that are putting some weird shit in your system should just have to tell you what it might do to you.
Uh, here's a bit more from RFK talking about how pharma ads have hurt Americans.
robert f kennedy-jr
We have there's only two countries in the world that allowed direct to consumer advertising by pharmaceutical companies on television.
We're one of those countries, New Zealand is the other.
It's had a disastrous impact on human health, on people's relationships with their doctors, and really on uh the entire gestalt where Americans are led to believe that there's a pill for every L. And that you don't have to exercise, you don't have to attach your diet.
Whatever goes wrong with you, you can fix with a drug.
dave rubin
First off, the entire gestalt.
Great word, Bobby.
That was fantastic.
But again, of course, why is it that we in New Zealand are the only two that have done this?
And we are just getting this back to a little more transparency.
And of course, what was his red pill if we're talking about drugs?
Well, Bobby's red pill, although he's been fighting a lot of this related to vaccines for a long time, was everything that happened during COVID.
And here he is talking about how they're gonna actually get some people involved who suffered vaccine injuries and myocarditis and others, so that they can learn more about side effects of vaccines.
This guy is just the devil, I'll tell you.
robert f kennedy-jr
Individuals who suffer them will not be denied or marginalized or vilified or gaslighted.
It will be welcome.
And we will learn everything that we can about them so that we can improve the safety of these products.
dave rubin
I'm gonna do a quick segue here, because there he is saying, hey, we just want to welcome the people who've been injured by these things so that you know maybe it won't happen again.
Here is big pharma sellout, useless socialist who's never accomplished anything in his life other than becoming a millionaire with three houses, Bernie Sanders.
bernie sanders
Uh, let me be as clear as I can be.
We are now witnessing a full-blown war on science, on public health, and on truth itself.
That is what we are confronting right now.
At this unprecedented moment in American history, it is important to share the facts as clearly as we can.
So I will take this opportunity to make a very simple point.
Can't be simpler.
Vaccines work, period.
dave rubin
I honestly can't believe anyone believes that like bloviating, useless communist old fart bag anymore.
Do we have a picture of Bernie in a mask?
Yes, Bernie, that's science right there.
Look at science all over his face.
You know, he's sitting outdoors wearing a mask, that there's air going in this way and that way and up and down and everything else.
That's science, man.
That's science.
And Bernie, why is it that you don't care about all of the young people who have myocarditis?
Why do you not care?
I have a friend who's 22 or 23, he's a somewhat public person, actually, but I'm not gonna mention his name here, who was perfectly healthy his entire life, got the COVID vax because at that time he wanted to be able to uh do his last year in college and now has a heart condition.
Why don't you care about that?
And we can do the long list of people who suddenly have autoimmune diseases, rates of shingles are going up, all this weird stuff on top of the fact that the vaccine didn't really work.
And now, by the way, it's you when you at the end goes you stand under a bumper, vaccines work, and you tell us vaccines work.
Well, now people are starting to get curious about all sorts of things.
So there might be some other vaccines that do work that have better efficacy and it and the systems in place years ago had much better research behind them, right?
But you don't care about any of that.
You don't care about any of that.
Here is former Biden COVID advisor Michael Esterholm, and he's also freaking out because the one thing these people have is well, they have two things, your money and fear.
willie geist
You are so instrumental in guiding us through the pandemic through all those years.
So fascinated to talk about your book, but I'm also curious, as a physician, and given your area of expertise, what you made of what we saw yesterday on Capitol Hill in the testimony from RFK Jr.
michael osterholm
Well, I think first of all, cutting through the political theater, I have to say, in my 50 years in the business, I've never seen a more dangerous time for public health.
We're watching this destruction, not just in this country, but throughout the world, largely because the U.S. pullback on things as PEPFAR, the USAID of being part of the WHO.
And when you add that all up right now, uh, this is a serious challenge that uh I don't think people really realize the extent to which that threatens the very public health structure that we've so relied upon for the last hundred years.
dave rubin
If you want to understand what the deep state is, that guy is a perfect example of what the deep state is.
Yes, if we don't fund all of these things, if we don't fund people not getting monkeypox in Africa, stop fucking monkeys, um, then all hell is going to break loose.
It's completely absurd.
All Bobby is doing is saying, I'd like better research on this, I'd like to peep talk to people who have been harmed by those things.
And I love how what's his name?
Will Geist, Willie Geist, whatever his name is.
He's like, and you were so integral in everything related to COVID.
Okay, did any of it work?
Did any of it work?
How about that video we showed you from the former head of the CDC a couple days ago where she was like, you know, we had all these meetings, and nobody was like, you know, the variants might change and there might be a degradation of the vaccine.
Nobody brought it up.
I don't know.
How the hell am I supposed to know?
I'm just the head of the fucking CDC.
Crazy, crazy.
So you can either trust your own intuition, you can do research on your own, you can try to find alt sources for information, or you can just listen to a machine that had you literally put a diaper on your chin and not see grandma, you know, in her last days.
Like, I don't know, it's up to you.
Uh, listen to this.
Well, which is the other part is we had a very, very dark conversation in this studio before the show today about where this could all go.
Uh, but this is president of the EU, Ursula von der Lane, uh, which sounds like the perfect name of someone who's the president of the EU.
And she's already warning us that we are on the brink of another health crisis.
Almost as if these people, Bill Gates, maybe, could actually start viruses to kill a lot of us.
Is that crazy?
Am I nuts?
ursula von der leyen
We are on the brink, if not even at the start, of another global health crisis.
And as a medical doctor by training, I'm appalled by the disinformation that threatens global progress on everything.
This summer showed us that there's simply no room or no time for nostalgia.
Battle lines for new world order based on power are being drawn right now.
dave rubin
Lady, might I ask, how do you know we're on the brink of another world health crisis?
How do you have some information?
Do you work with people that maybe release things out of China?
Like, I don't know exactly, but I do know that if you care about your health, you should try to eat right.
You should try to get outside.
You should try to have community around you.
You should try to take a little stock in your own personal spiritual, physical uh being and see if you know you can better that rather than turning to a bunch of people who literally locked us up in our own homes.
That's what I would do.
And here's one more.
This is the guy they hate.
Remember, this is the guy who they all loved, who they all hate, and this is the guy they want you to think is the bad guy in this movie.
robert f kennedy-jr
I got involved with chronic disease 20 years ago, not because I chose to or wanted to.
It was essentially thrust upon me.
I watched generations of children get sicker and sicker.
I had 11 siblings, and I had seven kids myself.
I was conscious of what was happening in their classrooms and to their friends, and I watched these sick kids, these damaged kids.
In that generation, almost all of them are damaged.
And nobody in power seemed to care or to even notice.
For 19 years, I prayed every morning that God Would put me in a position to end this calamity.
I have the certainty that this is what I've meant to do.
And that certainty gives me internal peace, even in storms.
This is a spiritual journey for me.
I reached my decision through deep prayer, through hard-nosed logic, and I asked myself, what choices must I make to maximize my chances to save America's children and restore national health.
I felt that if I refused this opportunity, I would not be able to look myself in the mirror, knowing that I could have saved lives of countless children and reverse this country's chronic disease epidemic.
dave rubin
Does that seem like the bad guy in this story?
The guy who can tell you how he was dragged in some sense because he saw what was happening with his siblings and his children and all of that and a generation, a guy who survived drug addiction, all the horrific things that have happened to his family, the murders, assassinations, etc., etc.
He came this far to have now his entire the entire Kennedy family is turned against him.
He allied with Trump, who he used to hate, like all of the stuff.
And all he talks about is can we just make this stuff safer?
Can we really make sense of some of the science and everything else?
Or you can choose the other one.
You can say, no, that guy, the he is the bad guy here.
Who's the good guy?
And the good guy is Ursula, who is telling you that we're on the brink of another uh disastrous worldwide epidemic, even though she doesn't give you any information about it, which leaves you to it would only take a little bit of a conspiracy theorist to think, boy, these guys really can just kind of release things when they want.
What what would the next COVID look like?
And the the really dark conversation we had right before the show was basically like if man, they have so many people now who are skeptical of all this stuff.
If they really wanted us all to bow, could they release something that was 10 times as deadly as COVID just to show us who's boss?
I mean, I don't want to think about that, but like if you're just seeing this all as a game in a grand game in some sense, well, that's depressing.
That's how we're ending the show.
We're all dying.
Well, I don't know, having a filet mignon and a little watermelon for lunch, so that's pretty good.
See you tomorrow.
jasmine crockett
Don't try to come up, mate.
unidentified
Cut.
robert f kennedy-jr
That's a cut.
unidentified
What you can't use that kind of language on TV.
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