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Sept. 2, 2025 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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Dave Rubin Can’t Believe This Happened While He Was Off the Grid | Jillian Michaels Guest-Hosts
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dave rubin
What are the chances that I don't get kicked off Twitter and YouTube just for talking to you?
donald j trump
Well, I think you have about a 10% chance, a good solid 10%.
dave rubin
10% getting kicked off or 10% staying on.
donald j trump
10% staying on.
unidentified
action By the way, anyone can be pretty.
I'm sick of this.
Just try harder.
dave rubin
You're about to give the keynote.
We got 10 minutes.
How do we do this?
How do we do it?
bill maher
Badly and quick.
unidentified
Nice.
Okay, so this is it.
Sydney Sweeney's bathwater.
dave rubin
That's pretty good.
She's half Job of the Hutt, half Predator.
It's like, what is that?
unidentified
Exactly.
dave rubin
And you cut it, you could actually fold it in a way that her knees would look like her boobs.
Has anyone ever seen that before?
You could probably get an image.
I don't know if we can put that on YouTube.
And what are Democrats good at besides sort of talking like this with their limb press?
I pay these people in Chipotle guacamole.
unidentified
I pay these people in the same way.
jillian michaels
Okay, team, I'm in the boss's chair today.
It is the recap episode.
Dave has been out all month.
Okay, so you got to catch the show on Rumble, YouTube, Locals, click share, subscribe, click the notification.
All transparency.
I was on a 14 hour journey to get to Dave yesterday and I got about three hours of sleep.
No amount of Nootropics or coffee or nicotine gum is really helping so things could go south quick.
Warning, I said, would I say Pakistan to your team a little earlier when I was rehearsing?
dave rubin
Is that a bit of news that there's a new country?
We have to wait a bit.
jillian michaels
I feel bad.
It's like, I think I might have to get comfortable.
I wanted to wear the shoes for the intro, but this is going to be a long one.
I feel like I'm about to club a baby seal.
So, okay, get comfortable.
Where were you?
How are you?
How are you feeling?
dave rubin
Well, first of all, Jillian Michaels, it's nice to see you, my friend.
I don't know that anyone is better suited to bring me back on the grid.
unidentified
Yes, it is true.
dave rubin
I know nothing that has happened since the day I went off the grid last day of July.
I avoided television.
I avoided the internet.
I avoided social media, all of the stuff.
Unfortunately, this year, because of the way the phones have just infiltrated our lives in every which way, I had my phone a little bit for controlling lights in my house and alarms and turning on things and like moving blinds and like, so like getting off the grid in like little house on the prairieway is getting increasingly harder and harder and harder to do.
But in terms of getting out of the system and the machine and the rat race and the hamster wheel, I completely did it.
I do have to say, so I scribbled down a few things real quick before we get to the news.
I will say one thing about the news before I get to just like some random stuff that happened over the month.
I don't get the sense that anything major happened.
jillian michaels
I was going to ask if you have predictions.
dave rubin
Yeah, so my sense is that nothing like absolutely crazy happened, like some kind of big war or like an assassination or a it's like I don't get a sense of that because when I was out and about either at the airport or at the supermarket or whatever when people were coming up to me everybody like nobody was like jumping at the gun like oh my god the thing like it wasn't there wasn't like a lot of that like we were in the bar nobody was killed and nobody dropped a nuke so nothing major happened right like there
There weren't any power outages here.
So my general sense is that it was a relatively quiet month.
I'm probably going to eat those words in just moments.
But I scribbled down a few things because, you know.
jillian michaels
Are you sure?
dave rubin
Getting away.
Well, I don't know.
You have a lot of paper there and you were laughing hysterically right before we started.
But I thought I would just mention a few things having nothing to do with the news before we get back on.
Because when I. Get it out of your system.
This is my ninth year of doing this.
And like you, I'm a creature of all of this.
I love the news.
I love the cycle.
I love the culture stuff and all of that stuff but also the escape is to for me it's to like reconnect with something else something that we all were part of way before the internet began where we were just here and present all the time and I have spent a month being really really present the last the last interview that I did I think it was on July 31st and then we put it up on August 1st was with Eckhart Tolle and we talked about present and taking a break.
And I really like took that in this month.
So just like a couple of things that I scribbled down.
I won't spend too much time on it because I know every.
Well, I know everybody wants to get to the news that I missed more important.
jillian michaels
Well, they know it.
So I think they probably actually want to hear about your month away.
dave rubin
So let me just offer up.
Let me offer up a couple of things.
Well, first off, the only thing that I watched today, so finally today, for a split second, I opened up YouTube.
I didn't look at anything.
But one thought that was popping in my head for the entire month, almost every day, is that I'm the luckiest guy in the world.
kept thinking that over and over.
Like, I spent so much time with my kids who are doing, you just saw them, they came in here, like, who are doing so great and learning how to swim now and taking them to the beach and going in the ocean and like, just watching them develop a sense of humor and all of this stuff.
jillian michaels
And it gets better.
dave rubin
And I have no doubt it gets better and then it probably gets worse and crazy and awesome and like, all of that stuff.
But like, I had so much time with that.
David and I got to escape for a while.
We had 10 days, just the two of us to kind of reconnect.
It was our 10th anniversary last week.
We've been together 15 years, but Matt married 10 years we got to escape and like have some solo time which is also important and all that but the one thing that i did watch it's only two minutes long but i watched the lou gehrig speak speech from God, I don't even know what year it is, the black and white speech that he gave at Yankee Stadium, his last public appearance, you know, when he had what came to be known as Lou Gehrig's disease.
But he talks about, you know, he now knows that he has this affliction.
I don't have any affliction.
But how he's the luckiest man alive.
And I just kept thinking that throughout the month.
Like, I get to escape.
I do what I want 11 months of the year.
I have an incredible team.
I have great colleagues and coworkers and employees and friends and family and all these things.
And then I get to escape and have nothing to do with any of it.
And that's great too.
So I, just more than anything else, whatever you're going to tell me, I'm incredibly appreciative of everyone that I'm around.
You, these guys, like, so appreciative of everything.
And it really, that just hit me over and over and over and over.
So that's one nice thing.
Now I'll just tell you like a couple of random.
jillian michaels
But one comment on that.
One comment real quick is, I listen, it's hard.
dave rubin
It's hard.
unidentified
It's just luck.
jillian michaels
It's opportunity and preparation.
You've put in a lot of work to have this life.
So I just, I want to be really clear that this isn't luck in the traditional sense of the word.
You've worked real hard to have this team and to cultivate this crew and to build this channel and to work on your relationships and to have this great team dynamic with David and the kids, like, that's a lot of work.
unidentified
Yeah, it's work.
jillian michaels
You've learned all that.
dave rubin
It's work.
Yeah, I guess.
Well, I guess that was partly what I was appreciative of.
Like part of the appreciation is that I do work hard to create those things.
And then to have this month where I was able to like step back for a second.
Like one thing that was really good this month, it was really nice to not have everything be about me all the time.
You know what I mean?
Like that's like a weird thing.
Like when you're a public person, like people know you.
They expect things from you.
They want things from you.
You want to give them things.
Like there's, but there's this weird public thing that like a lot of it's about you all the time and then And then the social media part makes it like, you know, ramped up on steroids.
So to escape a little bit of that and to just like be more present, literally, whether it was with a cashier or a waitress or whatever, I think was like, was unbelievable.
Now, let me just tell you a couple of funny things, though.
So I am sure that I am in the Guinness Book of World Records now for something that happened this month.
I listen, and maybe David's with me on this, but I think I might have even beat him.
We listened to the theme song of Ghostbusters more times than anyone in the history of the world in any 30-day period on around August 1st, somehow the kids heard Ghostbusters.
It just popped up on something, I don't know.
They are obsessed.
And we listened to that song.
It could be 10 to 20 times a day, including when we drove across Alligator Alley about a three and a half hour ride, basically nonstop Ghostbusters.
You saw them this morning, they're in Ghostbusters, where it's like Ghostbusters.
And it was really weird because it's a great song.
Actually, it so captures the eighties and blah, blah, blah.
But then, but there's a weird thing that happens when you hear something over and over.
Like, you're like, I like it, I like it, I like it.
Then you go to like some crescendo.
Then you start hating it.
Then because the kids are loving it, you start loving it again and then it almost becomes like it's almost like religious in nature after you've heard it so many times and then by the end by yesterday I was like I wouldn't mind hearing Ghostbusters right now like so I am in some sort of that was one thing the other thing I hold that record for Frozen by the way for what's the main song in Frozen?
unidentified
Oh my god I've actually blocked it out but it's What is it?
What is it?
dave rubin
Let it go, let it go.
That's Connor's favorite song.
unidentified
Oh my god.
dave rubin
Yeah.
The other thing, I ate a tremendous amount of watermelon this month.
I think I ate probably half a watermelon a day for a month.
A lot of potassium.
You're a health lady.
I don't know where that puts me, but I just love watermelon.
I ate a lot of watermelon.
This one you'll find interesting.
And this actually, I think, is really...
We'll get to all the evil in a minute.
unidentified
I'm like, I ate watermelon.
karoline leavitt
I'm like, oh, Dave.
dave rubin
I know we're going to raw dog this thing in a minute.
Just let me ease in right now.
jillian michaels
I know.
It's okay.
dave rubin
What?
It's okay, Dave.
I took a nap every day.
Every single day.
without fail.
So for 30 straight days, I took a nap at some point.
Sometimes it was only like a 15 minute nap.
Sometimes it was an hour nap on the beach.
Sometimes it was when the kids went down for a nap and I passed out on the couch.
But like, the privilege to take a nap, to have the space in your life to take a nap.
I know that sounds ridiculous probably, but something about it, like I am going to try to incorporate naps into my life more like a little siesta.
Siesta, I know, I know.
Another thing, and this maybe I'm going to have to spin off a show, but one thing I really got into with the kids at night, so I had more time to like put them down at night and read stories and stuff, which I love doing.
We got a couple of puppets, and I've been putting up puppet shows for them at night and doing all these different characters, the wizard and the robot and the old lady, and I do all the voices and everything for like an hour.
I'm putting up like an hour show a night, and I like kind of incorporating that.
kamala harris
We could get those real quick.
dave rubin
Probably not for a long time.
No, okay.
But I may be doing a puppet show soon.
What else?
I trained for the first time in my life.
I've never had a trainer ever, but I was training three days a week, mostly working on legs and getting some stability and core and stuff.
But I feel really good.
I ate right.
I didn't have one bad meal.
Like, now I just ate right the entire time, which was good.
And then I'll just say, well, let's see.
Oh, and the kids swimming.
Like, to watch them learn how to swim now is just so cool.
And taking them out into the ocean.
So it's great.
And then we did go to Mexico for 10 days, just the two of us.
And, you know, I started my.
tequila a couple months ago, Copal.
jillian michaels
I was thinking tequila and puffs could go.
dave rubin
Actually.
That's not a bad idea.
I know.
But I took, we brought tequila there.
Our distillery actually wasn't far from where we stayed, so they brought it over to us.
And we had some of the best tequila somaliers in all of Mexico come and taste our tequila.
And they loved it, loved it, loved it.
So that was so affirming because this is something I've been working on for years, so that was lovely.
And then let me just share one broad thought about politics and culture and life, and then you can take over.
Okay.
I really was thinking a lot.
And I think one of the things that was driving me crazy for the last, maybe like four months before going off is there's been so much fighting on the right, like for people that I thought were like, just everyone, we thought we were all kind of roughly on the same side.
Maybe we think different things about this or that or whatever.
But so much fighting on the right.
And it all, when you get...
I don't mean the news doesn't matter.
Of course it matters.
I don't mean culture doesn't matter or current events don't matter.
But like the bickering of who's going to destroy who and I got this guy and this one went after, it just is so silly and ridiculous and it has so little translation into reality.
Like I talked to so many different people this month.
who and very little about no nothing about politics came up but just talked to people from every walk of life wherever i went i was really aware that just like if i could just say hi to somebody on the beach or just like just chat with people and like there's so much goodness and so one other of the things that I'm really going to try to do for this season of the show,
which will roll into 2026, which is America's 250th birthday, is I'm going to double down on finding all of the good people that want to do great things with this country and fight for all of the freedom and beauty and goodness that there is, like the bitterness and the fighting and all of the stuff.
It's just, it's just utterly nonsensical.
And I'm going to do my best not to take part.
I could rattle off a million more things, but I think that I had to get a few things just out of my system.
jillian michaels
You never do though.
You're always above it and you're always a class ac act, and I think that's one of the reasons people love you and they trust you.
unidentified
I feel kind of bad, simply because I was also away for a little while.
jillian michaels
I was away for almost a month starting in mid July, so I had to catch up on all of it as well.
unidentified
And I remember coming home and thinking, like, how am I going to jump back into this stuff?
jillian michaels
And if you do it with this renewed sense of purpose, like, what's the bigger vision?
What am I going to try to tackle here when addressing this stuff?
And it's about bringing goodness into the world and platforming great ideas and trying to make the country a better place, and you do that so well.
dave rubin
I try, and I will do it.
But it does.
It is weird.
This year more than any other year, it feels weird to come back in some sense.
unidentified
Why do you think that is?
jillian michaels
Because I felt it too.
unidentified
I felt it too.
jillian michaels
You're like, okay, hold on.
We're going from zero to fifth gear.
dave rubin
You know, this is like probably the easy version, so maybe I have to think it through a little bit more.
The easy version would be that last year we were in the middle of an election year.
So it was like, I had to come back.
I felt the need to come back.
The year before that there were primaries.
And it was like, oh my God, the primaries and who's going to be the VP and blah blah.
Like all the political stuff.
This year, because it's like Trump's president, when I left, I felt like there were so many good things happening.
I mean, that's what I'm talking about on the show all the time despite the whatever bickering there is and everything so i so it was easier to get off you know what i mean like it was just easier to like get off the crazy train so coming back on the crazy train it just it definitely feels weird i think it's gonna take me a couple days now to get my sea legs and get back into this is my goal but now you can bludgeon me you want to just paper cut me for two hours you got a lot of paper there i'm gonna ease you into it and
i i want to try to make it as funny as i possibly can but i'll be honest some of it's alarming can i ask you is my general estimation don't tell know if you think I'm if it's going to blow anything, but is my general estimation that nothing like really crazy happened?
Is that kind of right?
Like, that's just my That's my It's all really crazy.
Right, I can't say everything.
jillian michaels
But that's kind of the point.
So, like, we haven't hit, you know, DEFCON one, right?
Like, nobody's about to press the button.
But it's pretty kind of, it is a little dystopian.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to bullshit, yeah.
We, you know, it's a little, like, a lot of there's some crazy stuff going on in the country, but nothing you haven't seen before.
But it, you know, okay.
Well, some steps forward., some steps back.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
All right.
Well, just one last thing to that and then take it away, which is that a few times, you know, David doesn't really care about politics the way I do, and we both, he basically disconnects too so that he doesn't have to know things that I don't know, and then that becomes like really strange or whatever.
But he did keep saying, which I thought was interesting, and also will help me frame how I want to do the show for the next year, is that, you know, that everything has felt so crazy for so long, if you think of everything related to Trump and everything related to COVID and the way social media has shredded us and all these things, that, you know, things can only burn like that for so long.
And then it becomes like a need for something else.
And that's what I'm trying to figure out here.
Like, something about that.
The only, oh wait, I do want to mention one more thing, sorry.
The only two movies that I watched during the entire month was about halfway through, I watched Weekend at Bernie's.
Because I was just like, I want something completely idiotic that only has good feelings to me.
And it's just like joy.
And it was like, man, the 80s, our thing, the thing that was our formative thing, was so freaking great.
and I've said it before, but I think America has to get back to that somehow, of the 80s if we can capture that again I think that's the off-road of the craziness and then the other thing that I watch and it's connected to this and I promise you can take over is I watched the new Jurassic Park a few days ago.
Did you see it by chance?
jillian michaels
I think I saw part of it.
dave rubin
Yeah.
So it was, I thought, pretty terrible.
And the only the only reason I'm even mentioning this is I think it's senior.
jillian michaels
That's the only reason I saw part of it.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
I don't want to say anything shitty, but but but you said it.
dave rubin
It was pretty terrible.
But the reason I'm mentioning it is because it gets to the heart of what I'm what I think we need in culture, what we have to figure out is we keep re-treading all these things, right?
We can't seem to come up with something new anymore, new scripts, new ideas, like new art.
When was the last time you listened to new music?
I listened to music all month.
Like we had music playing ten hours a day a day.
jillian michaels
And this is in the Stones, Tupac, Aretha, Amy Winehouse.
dave rubin
Which is all awesome, but it would be nice if someone could create a new two things.
jillian michaels
Yeah.
dave rubin
So I'm watching this Jurassic Park and it's stiff and it's terrible and it's like they've done it all before, but not only have they done it all before, they did the original three.
The original one was a really good one, the two kind of after that.
pretty crappy.
Then they rebooted it and it was like just kind of redoing it again and now they're redoing the redo and it just makes me wonder like what part of what part of the thing are we in right now where we're redoing the redoes?
Like we need something new and I'm gonna really say that.
jillian michaels
Nobody wants to take a risk.
So it's like, oh, that worked, so let's make the sixteenth iteration of it.
Because if you take a risk, you get fired.
You know, gone are the days when they could let Cheers roll season after season as a failure with the knowledge that it's inherently good and will become one of the top shows of all time.
dave rubin
100 episodes later.
jillian michaels
You'd be fired for doing that now.
It will tank episode two, they'll pull it off the air, and that's it.
So people just come from fear constantly.
dave rubin
We just need to renew some things, and I think we can do it.
I'm going to do it with you.
unidentified
Okay.
dave rubin
Let's go.
jillian michaels
Okay, what do you have?
dave rubin
Now tell me about all the people you have.
jillian michaels
I can't even here we go.
unidentified
I feel better for you.
jillian michaels
So the first thing is we're going to break this into three parts.
So we have national politics and Trump.
Additional political news.
Pop culture news, which is batch it.
unidentified
But first, you're going on tour in Australia.
Do we have a book?
dave rubin
Yes, I have.
Oh, do we?
Oh, look at me.
jillian michaels
Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane.
Very, very exciting.
dave rubin
Wow.
I'm getting right on the grid and I'm going across the world.
Okay.
jillian michaels
Good for me.
You're going for five minutes and now you're going to, yeah.
dave rubin
You're going to.
Okay.
Thank you for promoting the stuff.
jillian michaels
Oh, any time.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
I do have some good news.
dave rubin
Okay, I'll start with good news.
unidentified
Good.
jillian michaels
Kamla, I still to this day, I can't pronounce her name right, so forgive me, is not going to run for governor or president.
And she went on Colbert and announced it.
Take a look.
stephen colbert
Yesterday you made an announcement that you're not running for the governor of California.
kamala harris
Correct.
stephen colbert
You said you're going to sit this one out.
Why are you sitting this one out?
Are you saving yourself for a different office that might be No, no.
kamala harris
I made the decision that I just for now, I don't want to go back in the system.
I think it's broken.
stephen colbert
Who's leading the Democratic Party?
I'm just curious.
kamala harris
There are lots of leaders.
stephen colbert
And so generally a leader of the Democratic Party, you know, like, oh, that's a leader of the Democratic party.
Who comes to mind?
kamala harris
I think there are a lot of, I'm not going to go through names because then I'm going to leave someone out and then I'm going to hear about it.
dave rubin
Oh, God, that's like watching a movie.
When you stop watching that stuff for a while, that feels like watching a scripted movie.
First of all, the failed guy who's going to get kicked out, the woman who was attacked, no, not attacked, the woman who was justly criticized for never having a declarative sentence about anything.
She can't name who's going to be the leader of the party.
jillian michaels
No.
dave rubin
She's nothing.
Like, that's the thing.
We were, do people realize, like, what was the reaction to it nationally?
Because do people realize we were on the precipice of electing nothing.
Like we were just electing the next cog in the system.
That's what it was.
Dementia guide to the cog.
jillian michaels
I'm like, you are the system.
dave rubin
Right.
unidentified
That is true.
dave rubin
See the system's broken, lady.
jillian michaels
That's the definition of the system.
dave rubin
Lady, the system literally re jiggered itself in front of our eyes to make you the candidate.
And now you don't like the system.
Well, it's kind of like Colbert.
He doesn't like the system very much anymore because when they pull your twenty million bucks a year to have a fifty million dollar deficit on your show, you're suddenly not.
So did people care?
Like, she's nothing.
She's nobody.
She's going to be a footnote.
That's it.
If I never have to say her name again, that would be a pleasure.
jillian michaels
I cared simply because I thought if she became the next governor of California, it is the only way things could get worse there.
dave rubin
Oh, you still have hope for that plan?
unidentified
I do.
I do.
dave rubin
I don't.
jillian michaels
You know, I get into fights with people about it that stay.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
And I'm like, don't.
Get out now.
Run while you can.
But being a native daughter of the state, having grown up there, thinking it's so beautiful, it has so much potential, and watching it being systematically destroyed by Gavin Newsom, and then knowing she was next in line, there is some relief for me there.
I'm not going to lie.
unidentified
And the best part is like, oh no, I'm just such a good person.
jillian michaels
I want to work outside the system.
It's like, no, you know you can't win.
Right.
You knew you can't win.
And if you need to save face and bow out gracefully, I'm going to let her have it.
dave rubin
Right.
But also, what has she done?
What has she ever actually I know she put a lot of people in jail for minor weed offenses as Attorney General, but she should never have been running in the first place.
She should never have been Vice President in the first place.
So it's not that she's not happy with the system.
The system's done with you.
You have no use.
That's when these people, these people are just cogs for the system.
The system no longer is use for you.
It would have had use for her if she had won.
Then it could have used her to further whatever its agenda is, right?
I don't even mean that in some crazy conspiracy way.
Like there is a system that's in place.
We don't I don't know that anyone knows exactly what it is.
There's something that is in place that orders this stuff.
It no longer has use for a person who can only talk about concentric circles and Russia big, Ukraine small.
So adios lady.
Don't let the door hit you on the wall.
jillian michaels
That was literally yesterday's news for that party, and we'll get into that in a little bit.
But speaking of individuals that the system no longer has use for.
dave rubin
So far one for one.
We got one good one.
jillian michaels
They just trotted out.
dave rubin
We should be here.
unidentified
I'll keep a little tally on you.
jillian michaels
So Biden appeared at the National Bar Association Gala and he just looks Oh, God.
Yeah, I don't know why they keep doing this.
Take a look.
unidentified
And he brought his granddaughters to celebrate with him.
It has been to ease all the gains we've made in my administration.
To erase history rather than make it.
To erase fairness, equality, to erase justice and itself.
And that's not hyperbole.
That's a fact.
dave rubin
So he No, that's hyperbole.
jillian michaels
To talk about how Trump has erased his legacy, of which I'm still trying to figure out what that is outside of the auto pen and inflation and naps and the botched Afghanistan withdrawal.
And that's kind of the point, by the way.
unidentified
Yes.
jillian michaels
That we wanted to erase that.
dave rubin
Well, you know, I said that watching Kamala and Colbert is like watching a movie.
Like watching him, it's just like watching a movie.
Oh, you're an old man that they put up there to poorly read a script.
What actually, my first reaction to seeing him again was, man, can you believe that it was just over a year ago where they were still telling us he was supposed to be president right he didn't step down until i think it was july or when they forced him out actually which we'll find out more about years from now it was july of last year so it's just over a year ago they were going to pretend that that man was supposed to be president right now and that so many people participated in that jake tapper participated in it and then wrote a book about it like what an utter utter farce but you're so
right about the the legacy like sorry dude what is your legacy well you were in government for 50 plus years you broke the border you you know had draconian lockdowns during covid you forced vaxes you weakened us across the world.
Like, what is, like, and then what at the end of all of that is like, what are, what are you even going out there for at this point?
Doctor Jill, it's because Doctor Jill won't let the guy just take it.
jillian michaels
It's got to be because it's because of someone else taking it.
Honestly, like abuse.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Like, stop trotting the guy out there.
dave rubin
Well, did you see, remember right before the election?
I think it was a day before the election, they trotted, I mean, this was the most sad of all of them.
They trotted out Jimmy Carter's body and he literally looked like the Cripkeeper.
No one should have seen him.
He could not move, mouth agape, you know, hollow eyes.
And they said his last wish was to vote for Kamala Harris.
Like stuff like I don't know if it's like somehow if you step away for a month like the lies right it's like we all know they're lying all the time but you step away for a month and then the lies seem like really it's like it's like really obvious.
jillian michaels
That's what I mean when you're like well I you know I think all the countries are still there and no one died.
Right.
But when you when you gain some perspective, man, this is pretty pretty crazy.
There's a lot of work to be done here.
dave rubin
Okay, well look, I wrote Good, Bad.
I have a tally now.
So I'm gonna say I'm gonna say that one was good.
Like it's probably we're not gonna see much more of him.
So I have two good, you've given me two good ones.
jillian michaels
Okay, I got this one's just funny.
dave rubin
Okay.
It's funny I can work with.
jillian michaels
So Hunter Biden has begun working as the Director of Development for an LA homelessness prevention organization called Bosta.
Now, Hunter said that Bosta protects people from eviction, and they're the only group, at least in Southern California, that represents undocumented, so they don't take federal money.
So his mission is to prevent the eviction of illegals that don't pay rent.
dave rubin
Now, he's running drug rehab to prevent the No, it's some sort of organization where you can't get kicked out of your home.
Oh wait, did I just add drug rehab into that myself?
I'm just wow., my brain is coming back online.
I heard Hunter Biden.
And then I immediately thought, drug rehab, that's funny.
See what's happening?
The thing is like starting to work again.
It's like when you, remember the old days you turn on a computer, it would be like ring, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Like, yeah, something's happening.
So I just completely made that up.
All right, put that aside for a sec.
Well, that's just, well, congratulations.
He's probably the new party leader.
jillian michaels
Well, but I figured that he saw they lost $24 billion to these NGOs.
dave rubin
Yeah.
Oh, that's incredible.
jillian michaels
And, you know, saw opportunity there.
dave rubin
I just don't understand.
I genuinely do not understand the mindset of someone who now, at this point, is...
Like, it's so, it's so profoundly insane.
Like, if I illegally got name a country, literally any country.
jillian michaels
Okay, Nigeria.
dave rubin
If I literally showed up in Nigeria one day as a visitor, and then six years later, I had just never left, would I, and then the Nigerians came to my door and were like, Dave, what are you doing here still?
That you were supposed to be here on vacation.
I wouldn't expect the Nigerians to keep me there.
jillian michaels
But I was in Minnesota.
dave rubin
It's profoundly insane.
jillian michaels
I had to show proof that I was leaving.
They're like, and when are you exiting the country?
I'm like, oh, okay.
dave rubin
Just to get in, you had to prove that you were breathing.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jillian michaels
Like, when's your exit ticket?
dave rubin
I really want to do safari in Rwanda.
I think I think I have to.
Was it a safari that you did?
jillian michaels
It was to go see the gorillas.
So gorilla safari.
unidentified
Yeah.
The gorillas.
jillian michaels
And then one to Tanzania and Kenya.
But you know what's crazy?
I just picked up my kids because they were with my ex in Los Angeles.
So I go to LA to get the kids.
And I actually posted this video.
This was in July.
So you were still here.
And it looked like the I know it's not politically correct to say it, but I want the impact.
It looked like the Third World.
And it was ten minutes from Beverly Hills.
It wasn't Skid Row.
It was garbage everywhere and ten cities.
It just it looked Oh yeah, I lived there.
unidentified
I've seen it.
jillian michaels
Then I go to Rwanda.
There's kids playing soccer at 10 o'clock at night.
There's not a bit of trash on the street.
dave rubin
There's like gorillas building nice hospitals.
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Dave and I was like, wow, talk about a upside down world right now.
So you make a very good point.
I have a lot to talk to you about immigration, so I'm not going to get into it right now.
Okay.
Hunter went on, by the way, to talk about how Melania Trump was introduced to DJT by Epstein.
There's a video of this, of course, take a look.
hunter biden
Epstein introduced Melania to Trump.
The connections are like, so wonderful.
unidentified
Anyway, why do we think they don't want the files released?
dave rubin
And do we believe the crack at it?
jillian michaels
No, of course not.
But here's what I did find interesting.
So I guess Daily Beast kind of ran with this and long story short, But Daily Beast is utter garbage.
dave rubin
Utter, utter, utter garbage.
They're all garbage.
I mean, they're all garbage.
jillian michaels
It's all lies and it's lies on purpose.
And the only way I'm beginning to realize personally that you can stop it is by pursuing it legally.
So she turned around and threatened Hunter Biden with a billion dollar lawsuit.
dave rubin
Oh, wow.
jillian michaels
Over his defamatory remarks.
He demanded a retraction and removal and an apology.
But basically they forced the Daily Beast to retract it.
dave rubin
Wow.
And did he personally retract it too?
So he didn't, but I don't believe he did.
jillian michaels
Phoenix, am I wrong about that?
I don't think he did, David.
Yeah.
But the Daily Beast did.
dave rubin
Interesting.
jillian michaels
I know.
And I'll tell you, he has been obviously on a tear going after all of these legacy media.
I might even call it.
dave rubin
One of the last things before I left was his crazy podcast where he just like tore everyone a new one, all the Democrats.
And yeah.
jillian michaels
It's working though.
It's working.
And I personally am taking a few, you know, tricks from him right now.
Because if you don't do that, they'll just fly out lie.
dave rubin
Right.
jillian michaels
And it's wild.
You can provide proof like this is not true.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
And they do it anyway and completely ignore it.
Because the narrative is so strong.
The incentive to paint certain pictures is so strong and so divisive.
So he's been pursuing all this legally and it is working.
And you see it with The Daily Beast, which is somewhat encouraging, but who has hundreds of thousands of dollars to go after it legally all the time.
dave rubin
It is partly when I mentioned that the only sort of political thing I was thinking about was this inviting on the right thing.
So much of it is just based in how social media is exacerbating and amplifying lies, just lies and nonsense and reconstructionist history and just all of this craziness.
But what do we do about that?
I don't know that there really is no truly clean answer if you're for free speech.
And then we have this weird thing where at some level, if you don't have moments like this where someone who has the means will use the machine to push back on a lie.
then there will be no way to decipher truth at all.
So it's like you don't want the wife of the president to have to feel like she has to sue a freaking stupid rag, you know?
But on the other hand, otherwise it just goes and goes and goes and goes.
And what is that?
Like we need something.
Like the truth is like the anchor basically.
jillian michaels
They have no consequences.
unidentified
Yeah.
jillian michaels
And again, I'll fill you in on some of it as the show goes on.
on but i've experienced it now personally and you oh yeah you can just take action you can provide like this didn't happen i have the proof and they just negated.
dave rubin
Gillian, my friend, it's right out of camera over there, but that is a front page New York Times Sunday piece from about six years ago with me on the front page calling me basically the head of the alt right.
I mean, what do you do?
What do you do?
I talked to lawyers about suing them and they were basically like, yeah, if you want to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to be in an endless lawsuit that you probably won't win because you're a public person, they'll drain you forever and they have endless resources.
So what do you do?
Again, like that's something that we all are just going to have to figure out more and more, especially as AI continues and fakes and blah, blah, blah.
Okay, so far I'm not feeling anything too crazy here.
jillian michaels
Okay, this is a little bit.
dave rubin
Kamala's out, Biden, crack, okay.
jillian michaels
Okay, so this is a little bit nuts.
So Tulsi Gabbard and Russia Gate, you didn't catch anything of this, did you?
dave rubin
I know she's been trying to expose some things.
unidentified
Okay.
dave rubin
And she, yeah, well, I think that like, yeah, two days before I left, she basically said that Hillary, there was some stuff around Hillary and Russia Gate.
jillian michaels
The long and the short of this, and then I'll break it down bit by bit here, is she's basically saying that Obama and Hillary Clinton and now George Soros' Open Society Foundation Oh.
concocted this entire Russia Gate thing.
That Obama was told by Clapper, his DNI, right?
Like, this is, there's nothing to see here.
That Russia didn't collude in any effective way on behalf of Trump.
And they said, kind of, do it anyway, right?
dave rubin
So some of that was breaking just as I left.
jillian michaels
Okay.
Now, there were some emails that were purportedly found from this guy, Leonard Bernardo.
Okay, so this guy was the regional director for Eurasia at the Open Society Foundations.
Okay, now this guy claims he's never seen these emails before.
But I copied one for you because I wanted to read it verbatim.
It forbade him this little section from it.
So, one of these emails stated that Hillary Clinton had approved a campaign advisor's idea, quote, about Trump and Russia hackers tampering with US elections.
That should distract people from her own missing email, especially if the affair goes to the Olympic level.
The point is making the Russian play a US domestic issue, say something like a critical infrastructure threat for the election to feel menaced since both POTUS and VPOTUS have acknowledged the fact IC would speed up searching for evidence that is regrettably still unavailable.
This is supposedly a direct email from this guy.
dave rubin
That all sounds like exactly what happened.
Okay.
jillian michaels
Of course, you know, they deny all of it now.
August 4th, Pam Bondi orders the DOJ to launch a grand jury probe into Russia gates.
We've got a video on that.
Take a look.
david spunt
Well, we'll good to be with you.
This is coming out of the Justice Department.
Fox News can confirm that Attorney General Pam Bondi today signed an order directing an unnamed US federal prosecutor to take evidence to a grand jury relating to an alleged conspiracy to tie then 2016 candidate Donald Trump to the country of Russia.
Now Fox News reviewed the one page order just hours ago signed by the Attorney General.
A source familiar with the probe confirms this as well.
While a DOJ spokesperson declined to comment on this report of an investigation, Fox is told Attorney General Bondi is taking the referrals from Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, quote, very seriously.
The spokesperson says that Bondi believes there is, quote, clear cause for deep concern, end quote, and a need for the next step.
jillian michaels
Okay, so now Taibi tells Cuomo that he thinks indictments are going to come down from this.
So take a look at this one.
unidentified
I think there are going to be indictments.
I was very skeptical on on that question even a couple of weeks ago, but I have heard repeatedly from these folks that they understand that this is not a hearts and minds contest and that they are not doing this for show and that if they don't end up in a courtroom that they will, this will be a massive political failure for them.
So I do think that there will be significant indictments.
I just don't know what for.
dave rubin
Well, that's interesting.
Well, has anything else happened subsequently before I come out?
jillian michaels
I mean, it's more of the same.
Tulsi declassifies files that show the former director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, in December complied with Obama's orders to fabricate the Russia hoax before Trump took office.
DNI Gabbard reveals Clapper sought to compromise normal procedures to rush the Russia Gate hoax intelligence report.
It kind of goes on and on like this.
Then the administration revoked security clearances for thirty seven officials alleging that they weaponized intelligence.
So that's But here's what's scary about this is, sort of, no one cares.
dave rubin
So that actually is kind of what I was going to say.
jillian michaels
That, yeah, sort of, no one cares.
dave rubin
Right, because the top of that you mentioned was right at the beginning of the month and now we're already in September and these things they burn hot for a second and then everyone just moves on it's like anything as it relates to covid no matter how many people you killed or you threw people back in old age homes or you injected children with things nobody nobody pays the price and when anyone pays the price it's always the wrong person or a patsy or something yeah so the only difference i would say and this is what i've you know tulsi a little bit right i feel like maybe we've never have you never met listen but we've chatted on the phone a couple times what i can tell you about tulsi no I know her
fairly well.
I would say she is a good, decent human being who loves this country and really wants to do the right thing.
I don't know exactly everything in her brain and heart, but to the extent that I know her on camera and off, I can absolutely say.
that with confidence about her.
I don't, she does not strike me as the type of person that would just come in and just kind of make up stuff or placate to the system or whatever you.
It's a little bit like Dan Bongino.
You could say whatever you want about Dan.
And I know a lot of people kind of turned on him a few months ago around some Epstein stuff.
And I was like, this guy has fought for every good thing forever.
Like, maybe he's not giving you exactly what you want right now, but you got to give him a little bit of grace.
So look, if indictments start coming, that's different than just, okay, we found some emails and this or that or the other thing.
So, all right, that's interesting.
that's something that feels like some newsworthy thing, but to your point, it just kind of, Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
And the right kind of, oh, something, maybe indict, maybe there's something there.
jillian michaels
Oh my God.
unidentified
Prison.
jillian michaels
You know, every Twitter feed.
Prison.
We want jail check.
dave rubin
It's also why I'm really trying to focus on the positive stuff happening in the country all the time.
jillian michaels
I think that's right.
dave rubin
Because it's the only thing that solves any of this.
Like whether you indict somebody or you arrest, like, like, are we better?
I'm not saying Hillary Clinton.
jillian michaels
Where's that going to go?
unidentified
Right.
jillian michaels
And then, oh, you're jailing your opponents.
And then it's a slippery slope.
And then everything's vindictive.
And that's right.
dave rubin
So like, it's, so we have to be careful.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
So we have to be careful what we ask for with that stuff.
And I think, again, the only thing that solves this, and this is why I'm so bullish on this 2250th anniversary of America thing coming up next year, is that the only thing that solves it is success.
Success of the country solves it.
Success is the thing that makes racists be a little less racist.
You know, like when things are going well.
Success is the thing that makes you be a little less jealous, that makes you be a little more humble, that makes more people want to cooperate with each other and everything else.
When things aren't going well, that's when everybody's turned to try to get everybody and destroy everything.
And unfortunately, the left has been really good at decimating so many of the good things that I think a lot of people..
jillian michaels
Completely, everything is just resist.
unidentified
Yeah.
jillian michaels
That's the whole thing that's all they're about.
dave rubin
Oh, how boring.
jillian michaels
It's just resist no matter what.
I've got some good stuff for you on that one that is so freaking crazy that will illustrate the point, I think, better than anything.
Okay.
And I'll get to that in a minute, and I'm sure the audience is pretty clear on what I'm referring to, but we'll get to that.
But everything is just resist at all costs, no matter what, and you're going to see it in the newspapers.
dave rubin
Yes, we must stop all this good stuff from happening.
Because then they won't need us.
That's the thing.
That's the thing, yeah.
jillian michaels
Or we'll never be in power again.
dave rubin
Right.
jillian michaels
So if we don't position it as crime is good and homelessness is good and illegal immigration is good and red food diet is good, then where are we?
unidentified
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Because you didn't fix it.
If anything, it all got worse.
So I have something cute for you.
dave rubin
Okay, something cute.
jillian michaels
It looks like Trump is doing renovations.
So take a look.
dave rubin
Oh, they were going to build a ballroom or something?
unidentified
That's kind of cute.
jillian michaels
Mr President, what are you doing up there?
unidentified
Come down and talk to us.
jillian michaels
But what are you building?
unidentified
Are you considering more renovations, sir?
Hello, Peter.
Hello, Peter.
dave rubin
I actually couldn't quite hear what he said, but we really don't deserve the guy.
We really don't.
It is never going to get more real and ridiculous in the good sense and functional in the best sense.
It's just never going to get better than this.
We can't do what needs to be done sort of politically to turn around some of the stuff that we're always talking about.
If this isn't it, if this isn't enough, how does it...
What are they doing?
They're building a second level.
jillian michaels
But that's the thing.
unidentified
I'm like, well, if he's doing a ballroom, why is he on the roof?
Yeah.
I don't know, he's such a lunatic, but like, anything's possible.
jillian michaels
He might be, you know, I thought, is he?
dave rubin
Wait, you'll love this.
unidentified
Like, what are the zoning laws with the White House, do you think?
dave rubin
You'll love this.
So we go away with the kids.
These last few days were at a little beach place not too far from here.
And the kids, Luke kept saying, I want to go back to the White House.
I want to go back to the White House.
And I'm like, what is he talking about?
The White House.
He wants to go to the White House.
You know, we've read those books about the Statue of Liberty and whatever.
He wants to go back to the White House.
And then we realized, my house is, it's a big white house.
And he wanted to go back to the White House the whole time.
So now he's back at the White end of the day.
jillian michaels
They get a little older though, and then you can take them on kind of crazy adventures.
dave rubin
But I mean, and we are doing renovations here, which Donald Trump could probably do a lot faster and cheaper than what I'm paying the contractors in Miami.
unidentified
Are you?
dave rubin
I'll show you what's going on in the background.
jillian michaels
I'm just wrapping one up in Jackson, and it has taken years out of my life.
So, good luck with that.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Yeah, okay.
Keep me in loop.
It's good you have a tequila company.
unidentified
Yeah.
We've got a lot to cover, but just make sure you pay for it or to drink through my sorrow.
My baby.
jillian michaels
We'll wait till they don't show up.
unidentified
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Oh, wait till they're three quarters of the way through the job and they don't show up..
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
And then they just disappear and everything is ten times more.
And oh, yeah.
Anyway.
So that was cute.
Okay.
dave rubin
Again, so far I'm not sensing anything crazy or anything.
Okay.
No.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
Anyway, we'll get there.
Stuff that I don't like that I'll share with you.
Okay.
I'll give you a little precursor.
I think No, I'm not.
We'll get there when we get there.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
Because this is a good one.
Okay.
So Trump got the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan to sign peace agreements and shake hands after 35 years of conflict.
dave rubin
So it's not surprising.
jillian michaels
It's a great one to take a look at.
unidentified
Thank you.
The President of the United States, the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan, and the Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia will now sign the joint declaration on the outcomes of the Trump Route for International Peace and Prosperity Summit.
donald j trump
That's really cool.
unidentified
They will sign three copies in.
dave rubin
Yeah, reminds me of Hitler.
jillian michaels
I was just about to give I wanted to give the guy his due here.
nancy pelosi
Yeah.
jillian michaels
So you know this, but just for anyone watching, I mean, he negotiated peace, even though there's still some little bit of fighting on the borders of Congo and Rwanda.
I mean, the guy de-escalated the situation in India and Pakistan, Cambodia and Thailand border dispute, put it to bed, Egypt and Ethiopia negotiations he hosted in August 2025, put that to bed, the Iran and Israel situation seems to be under a ceasefire still, the US and the Houthi ceasefire was announced.
unidentified
I mean, like, he is a president for peace.
dave rubin
It's almost like America is supposed to lead the world, that it's a heavy burden and someone has to do it, and if it's not us, it's going to be much worse.
And when we abdicated the duties, as we did for four years under a president whose brain wasn't in his head, that was a problem.
and now we're trying to fix it.
It's almost like that, but don't you think?
jillian michaels
What I find crazy is the people who can't stand him somehow manage to not see anything.
dave rubin
They never see the good stuff.
jillian michaels
None of it.
dave rubin
Never see the good stuff.
unidentified
Zero.
jillian michaels
Yeah.
Now, I do have to give you a little bit of an update on the Ukraine situation.
dave rubin
Okay.
jillian michaels
And I have to tell you, D, at the end of the day, I still think it's much do about nothing.
dave rubin
Okay.
jillian michaels
The bottom line is we are losing this.
And we had the off ramps.
We didn't take it.
Putin's winning, and there's really no incentive for him to stop.
Now, I have to give you the update because I thought we were making progress.
So here's what happened.
Trump brought Putin to Alaska.
The left went bum.
dave rubin
Oh, they met?
They met in person?
jillian michaels
They met in person.
dave rubin
Oh, wow.
jillian michaels
Okay, I got a lot to show you on this one.
So they had the All Star Foreign Policy team together for the negotiations.
The left was like, I can't believe they're bringing him to America.
And it's like, why though?
Why would you, why would that be an issue?
As Trump says, I want people to stop dying.
And I, I mean, I personally would do anything to make that happen, in large part.
unidentified
So take a look at kind of the whole throwdown here.
hillary clinton
So here we are.
jillian michaels
I don't know that I'm necessarily narrowing this point, but they did in fact meet in Alaska.
They're on the airstrip here.
And then You've got Trump standing with Putin, they're smiling.
You've got Marco Rubio and Steve Whitcoff there with him.
It was a whole, it was a whole thing.
And, you know, yeah, I thought we were going to get somewhere here.
Now, on the 15th of August, Putin says that he hopes the agreement can be reached with Trump and he wants to, you know, have peace.
And Trump says he's going to call Zelensky and NATO regarding this meeting.
So we got another video on that, take a look.
hillary clinton
If he could bring about the end of this terrible war where Putin is the aggressor invading a neighboring country, trying to change the borders.
If President Trump were the architect of that, I would nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize.
dave rubin
Huh?
unidentified
No, we jumped ahead a little bit on that one, so that's pretty good.
jillian michaels
She kind of sets him up to fail, though, because she basically is like, if we don't have to give up any territory, like, what do you mean, you don't have to give up any territory?
Putin's already winning, he's already got it.
So she's basically, in my opinion, what she does there is essentially saying, no matter what happens, even if he brokered peace, he lost.
dave rubin
Meaning that Ukraine would have to give up some territory.
They're going to have to give up some territory.
unidentified
Exactly.
dave rubin
That's just reality.
jillian michaels
That's the point.
That's what I see her doing is saying, like, there's no way this guy can win.
Because I'm going to set the bar impossible high.
Because no one took the offer, I'm.
So, you know, someone took the off ramp in 2022 when there were, Putin didn't know how it would play out.
Now, as mentioned, he's winning.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
So, this kind of goes on.
Putin does say that he can confirm the war wouldn't have happened if Trump was in office, whatever, whatever the hell that means.
Trump then says on August 16 that Russia and Ukraine should go directly to a peace agreement instead of a ceasefire.
There's the Hillary thing, like, oh yeah, if he could do this off, blah, blah, blah.
Now, here's something cute.
Zelenskyy shows up in a suit.
dave rubin
Wow, he got a suit.
Somebody went to HM.
jillian michaels
Yeah, let's roll this.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
So he gets the whole like EU, all the leader Macron's there, Merz is there, freaking Maloney, the whole NATO Europe situation, they're all there.
unidentified
We got a 40 second video of that one.
alexander stubb
I think in the past two weeks we've probably had more progress in ending this war than we have in the past three and a half years.
mark rutte
I really want to thank you, President of the United States, dear Donald, for the fact that you, as I said before, broke the deadlock, basically, with President Putin by starting that dialogue in that country.
donald j trump
You know, when if I can save seven thousand people a week from being killed, I think that's a pretty I want to try and get to heaven if possible.
I'm hearing I'm not doing well.
unidentified
I'm really at the bottom of the totem pole.
donald j trump
But if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.
dave rubin
Well, I Well, all right.
This all sounds good, but I'm guessing nothing's happening here.
jillian michaels
Nothing's happened yet.
Nothing's happened yet.
I mean, we do have a huge something.
The bottom line is that Bill Maher praised Trump.
Trump because he quote really does not like war.
I mean, you know, Bill, it like comes out and we'll call balls and strike still loves Gavin Hughes so much, I can't understand.
Oh, we got a video of it.
dave rubin
Oh, no, oh, no, Bill, don't, don't.
unidentified
Yeah.
bill maher
It's funny, I see that today is the anniversary of Woodstock.
This is 56 years ago, and the hippies, what did they hate more than anything else?
War.
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing.
So if you're the kind of person who says, you know, you can find some good in anybody.
This would be the good in Donald Trump.
He really does not like war.
jillian michaels
I mean, I do love that Bill said that.
Here's where we're at though.
The reality is that Trump has, I'm not sure if you were here for this.
He's now going to have NATO buy weapons for us and he's going to arm Ukraine.
dave rubin
So I think that was happening right as I was leaving.
jillian michaels
He's going to have to do it.
And he's also introducing secondary sanctions.
So he's putting a fifty percent, he's raising it from twenty five percent to fifty percent sanctions on India because they're buying fuel from Russia.
So he's going to try to get people to kick them out of SWIFT and the whole thing.
dave rubin
So it's a little bit like having it both ways.
jillian michaels
You got it.
The reality is Victor Davis Hansen says like if you want peace, plan for war.
dave rubin
Of course, of course, that's right.
Peace through strength., but exactly.
jillian michaels
I think he doesn't have a choice because there's just no What would be the incentive, honestly?
This is not in the notes.
Just between you and me.
When you look at this from the outside, what is Putin's incentive to stop?
dave rubin
I have said the same.
People could go back to when did this all start?
Three plus years ago at this point.
I have said the exact same thing from day one on this thing, which is at the end of the day, Putin has nuclear.
So yes, did he invade a sovereign country?
Yes.
Is that a little more complex than usual borders because of the breakup of the Soviet Union and all that?
Yes, yes, yes, fine.
But at the end of the day, the guy that invaded has nuclear.
So the idea that, okay, we can give him twenty tanks more or forty more planes., the Ukrainians obviously, or this much more money, or pay their pensions, or whatever, that as if that's going to end the war at some point.
It's like, no, that doesn't, because if Putin ever was really losing the war, he has the ultimate weapon.
jillian michaels
Exactly.
dave rubin
So what are we really doing here?
I don't know.
This is a point where I just, to me, you have to just grant Trump a long leash on this.
He's at least trying.
jillian michaels
Everything.
He's trying diplomacy.
He's rearming Ukraine, but not with our tax dollars.
He's trying secondary sanctions now.
dave rubin
He's just stunned.
jillian michaels
We're just we're waiting on this trilateral meeting between him and Putin and Zelensky.
But, you know, Melania said this, or Trump said this of Melania, that he goes home after these meetings.
He's like, everything went great.
Everything's got so fringe.
She goes, are you sure?
Because he just blown up a bunch of kids and just nailed another city.
I mean, at the end of the day, whether there were off ramp, whether we wanted this war or not, I don't think anyone can deny that Putin is he's bananas.
You know, you're not dealing with him.
dave rubin
He's a former KGB agent.
He's a cunning guy.
He's basically, you know, he's been at power for, you know, democratic elected for a long time, you know, like this is not going to be an easy one, but No, I mean, so Okay, so that's just kind of Yeah, that's kind of where we're at, you know, Okay.
unidentified
So yeah, okay, I'm gonna send a carry, I'm gonna sanction, blah, blah, blah.
jillian michaels
I mentioned all that to you, okay, okay.
Ah, I like this story.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
Now then, Elon and Trump have agreed on something again, and it is over Big Balls.
Do you remember Ed Courtestein?
dave rubin
There was a kid whose screen name was Big Balls or something?
Yeah, he was part of Dogs.
Yeah, okay.
jillian michaels
Okay, so listen to this.
This sparked like a huge thing that's going on and it's a really big deal right now, actually.
I think for the better.
Of course, the left is in authoritarian panic.
Long story short, Big Balls is out with his girlfriend.
As far as I know, she was his girlfriend, so saved a woman from being assaulted.
I thought they were a couple, I'm not totally sure.
From a bunch of kids, like 14 teenagers that beat the shit out of Big Balls.
dave rubin
That's Big Balls?
jillian michaels
That is Big Balls.
He's not cute, actually.
He's a cute kid.
So listen to this.
They beat up Big Balls, who acts like a gigantic hero and tries to save the lady.
The judge, they catch two of these teenagers and she basically releases them without consequences.
dave rubin
So they were just attacking, they were trying to steal this woman's car or something and he just randomly disappeared.
jillian michaels
He saved a woman being attacked by her car.
I thought it was his girlfriend and they were together and he told her to take off.
dave rubin
Is that the woman or is that the judge?
That's the judge.
jillian michaels
That's the judge.
So Big Ball stays behind in this act of heroism and gets the crap kicked out of him by 14, I think it was like 14 teenagers.
unidentified
Jesus.
jillian michaels
They catch two of these kids.
dave rubin
Should I ask the ethnic makeup of this?
Because I'm going to guess that probably was the woman.
I do.
jillian michaels
So to speak.
There was something unrelated to this.
So one of the things that is in a really bad place are race relations.
We have some stuff on it involving me.
But with that said, there was a problem.
This is not in here.
But there was a teacher, I think he was a Harvard professor, who got the crap kicked out of him by a couple of teens in a movie theater, and then turned around and was like, I can't describe them.
And then, of course, everyone online was like, okay.
And it begot all of this crazy racist remarks on both sides.
dave rubin
But the racial makeup was obviously what we think it is.
jillian michaels
Presumably.
Because he was black.
dave rubin
So he was white and they were black.
Like, what's the difference?
jillian michaels
Presumably.
So I'm not entirely sure, you know, what race these kids were.
dave rubin
But this is not so colorblind you can have a bunch of people kick the shit out of you and you don't know what that you've really been had the shit kicked out of you and you don't know what color they are.
jillian michaels
Yeah.
I'll get to kind of what's going on with that issue in a little bit.
unidentified
Okay.
dave rubin
But wait, what happened with Big Ball?
jillian michaels
So ready for this?
So Trump turns around and he's like, Effort, I'm federalizing DC.
And he took over law enforcement and basically just got everyone on the ground.
So let me read it to you as it's supposed to be told.
But the long story short is he gets the guard in the mix.
And he, that, but I mean, like everybody, the FBI, like everybody actually got involved.
And the long and the short of this, I mean, there's a video actually.
Oh, hold on.
Before we get to the video, let me just tell it to you from without the notes.
So he's like, screw this, I'm taking over.
And the long story short is, DC's crime is bananas, right?
It's three times higher than pretty much any blue city.
The homicide rate is like six and a half times higher than New York and California or Los Angeles.
And everybody goes crazy.
The left is going nuts.
Now, to the credit of the police chief and the mayor, Bowser, right?
They did say, I have to be honest, they did say, we want to see what we can do with the resources.
Now, the left has gone wacky because they're like, this is nuts.
Crime is at a what is it like a thirty percent low.
I can't remember exactly.
It's never been lower.
It's thirty percent lower.
However, as mentioned, it's still ridiculously high.
And there's some evidence to suggest that law enforcement there has kind of been cooking the books on this.
dave rubin
Right.
They don't report certain things now and she does the crimes.
jillian michaels
So there's actually a guy, I made a note of this because I don't want to get his name wrong in all of these notes somewhere in here.
But long story short, he was like a commander who was put on administrative leave.
He denies this, but for kind of cooking the books and making more serious crimes, little offences.
But the actual police union came out and said it's not just him.
unidentified
It's everybody is kind of complicit in this.
jillian michaels
And nevertheless, whether it's true or whether it's not true, DC's crime is still bananas.
So he federalizes the guard and the statistics are dabe.
They're incredible.
crime plummets.
Now I don't have, unfortunately, for some reason, I must have it on another page.
Here we go, here we go, here we go.
Okay.
And then I got, I got videos to show you, but CNN reported that President Trump's DC takeover produced a drop in crime.
Now, when I was on CNN, they didn't admit this, so I must have missed this episode of CNN.
dave rubin
Well, right, last time I saw you, you were going to CNN, right?
jillian michaels
Yeah, I've got a lot to tell you about that, Dave.
In the meantime, okay, so there was a huge spike in immigration arrests.
Property crime is down nineteen percent.
Violent crime is down seventeen percent.
Robberies and car breakings are down forty percent.
The US Marshals arrested 141 violent fugitives ines in Operation Memphis Streets.
Okay, so now let's go to this video.
Oh, one more thing I want to tell you.
So he then turns to the homeless shelters and says, I'm cleaning all this up.
You guys get the choice of rehab, counseling for mental health issues.
We're going to put you in shelters.
We got a video of this one, so I want you to watch this one.
So let's see this one, guys.
unidentified
Can I see this 58 second video here?
donald j trump
In addition, I'm deploying the National Guard to help reestablish law, order and public safety in Washington, DC.
And they're going to be allowed to do their job properly.
And you people are victims of it too.
You know, you're reporters and I understand a lot of you tend to be on the liberal side, but you don't want to get, you don't want to get mugged and raped and shot and killed.
And you all know people and friends of yours that happened.
karoline leavitt
Homeless individuals will be given the option to leave their encampment, to be taken to a homeless shelter, to be offered addiction or mental health services.
unidentified
"Hey, how are you?" "I'm good, they said I'm good." "Good contact for the mall, we're going up." "Hey, how are you?" "Okay, skee-tus." "I, I, I, I, I..." Did I do it right?
Okay, well, I don't I don't want that guy on the show.
Whatever.
dave rubin
Just audio me.
jillian michaels
I don't know.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
But the reality is it's actually working.
dave rubin
Yeah.
Well, I'm shocked.
Do you mean if you tell people that you're going to clean up cities and you actually start doing something, it starts cleaning up cities?
Is that what you're telling them?
jillian michaels
That's what I'm telling them.
dave rubin
My God, a lot has happened since I've been gone.
First off, I love what Trump says there.
It's so exactly why Trump is great.
He goes, a lot of you are on the more liberal side, but you don't want to be mu mugged and shot and raped and murdered.
And you know the saying, of course, which is a conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged by reality.
And that's what you, right?
Like, literally, so many of us, why I left the left, so many of the old school liberals all woke up, partially because of COVID or because of crime in the cities or whatever it might have been, because suddenly you're like, Oh, I would prefer not to be stabbed with a hypodermic needle when I'm going to take my kids to the library.
So, okay, sometimes it takes a scary conservative to clean things up.
So, I don't know, that all seems good.
I do want to know more about the guy who was just, was that a guy or who the hell was it?
jillian michaels
I don't know.
But it has been, in my opinion, given the statistics, a huge success.
And as mentioned, the police chief and now, okay, hold on, Pam Bondi also basically took away her power to now call it a sanctuary city.
So they're staging a takeover.
dave rubin
There shouldn't be no such thing as a sanctuary city, like, come on, okay.
jillian michaels
Okay, all right.
So, nevertheless, it looks like a staggering success.
unidentified
Of course, the left is like, it's authoritarian.
He's taking over our city.
jillian michaels
He's like, oh my God.
And this is what I mean when I when I say resist at all costs because it's like, are you not happy?
Look at the numbers.
There's no innocent here.
unidentified
We don't have a story of, oh, they accidentally shot an innocent guy taking his daughter to school because they're such authoritarian monsters.
dave rubin
It's nothing of that.
jillian michaels
It's just bad guys going to jail.
dave rubin
It's not compassionate to have criminals out on the street, it's not compassionate to have homeless people setting up campments and drugs everywhere like in San Francisco.
That's not compassion.
That's the reverse of compassion.
They have faux compassion, that's the thing.
unidentified
Can I highlight a little hypocrisy for you that I can?
jillian michaels
Okay, so they all went crazy when they cleaned up the homeless campments, right?
But somehow we forgot Gavin Newsom's photo op in 2024.
Remember when he pushed on the Supreme Court to allow him to force cities to clean up the homeless campments?
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
And then he showed up for the photo op, like taking all the homeless people's stuff and throwing it in the garbage.
dave rubin
Do we have a picture?
Is that a photo op?
unidentified
I'm sure we definitely have a picture of it.
jillian michaels
Yeah.
unidentified
But my point is like when Gavin does it.
dave rubin
Of course.
Remember when Xi Jinping came to San Francisco and they suddenly managed to get all the homeless people were all gone.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
And then they all appeared like three days later.
Where the hell did they put them?
jillian michaels
I don't know.
I hope you I hope you gave them all their stuff for the process.
dave rubin
You know he's grinding them up and using them as hair gel.
jillian michaels
I don't agree with you.
I don't.
Now here's where this gets a little nuts.
In Trump fashion, he says that he's going to deploy the military to Chicago and then New York and possibly LA.
Now in DC he can do that legally, but I don't see how he does it in Chicago, New York and LA.
I'm not quite sure.
I get the Insurrection Act.
I haven't read it.
dave rubin
Right.
I guess it's the Insurrection Act.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
For crime, because that's different than when you deploy to find illegals, which is the job of the federal government.
So have they done anything of this yet?
jillian michaels
Not yet.
But it has been such a staggering success.
And it's so funny because Nelapda's like, Oh yeah, until it comes to a city near you.
And I was like, Oh, yes, please.
unidentified
Right.
jillian michaels
Come clean up LA.
Can LA be next?
dave rubin
You know, it's so funny.
One of the things that I thought of a lot during the month is because I was just doing things around the house and I'm like, here and just doing errands and just stuff here in Miami.
It's so clean.
It's so pleasant.
It's so safe.
You go out at night.
There's, there's no, you know, it's not that nothing happens here, right?
There's no perfect system, but it's just, it functions the way it should.
So that's another reason why my general sense, I thought, might be a little bit off, because I was like, Oh, I'm just around, I'm in my bubble here that is a goodness bubble because of it's not a miracle though it's not it's just not it didn't just like come out of nothing right it didn't just like peer out of osmosis it came out of proper governance and really good people that realize that they should have some skin in the game and get involved and then it turns into proper policing and all those things so yeah if he suddenly was like I have to send the troops to Miami I'd be like all right now we got a problem here,
but sending them to places.
jillian michaels
You saw what happened over in Chicago over Labor Day, did you?
dave rubin
Wait, yesterday?
jillian michaels
Over the whole Labor Day weekend.
No.
I didn't.
Shootings, deaths.
dave rubin
You know, I've been off the grid for a month.
jillian michaels
Even the Labor Day, I thought maybe you caught some of it.
unidentified
No, nothing.
Yeah.
jillian michaels
No, that's not.
dave rubin
There were shootings in Chicago?
jillian michaels
No, I mean, yeah.
dave rubin
The usual Well, shit.
jillian michaels
It's pretty bad.
So that's all right.
unidentified
How many?
How many?
dave rubin
I mean, there's always shooting.
jillian michaels
Oh, it was like fifty.
dave rubin
Oh, that even I don't know how many were killed.
jillian michaels
Phoenix, how many?
I've been trying to sort of, there's video of it and people on the ground and there's bullets flying.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
So is it compassionate to just be like, all right, we're going to give the city up to the warlords?
So like, of course not.
jillian michaels
See, I have to wonder, this is kind of my point.
I've got some such crazy shit to show you, but this is kind of my point with the left where it's just resisted all costs.
Yeah.
And you make great things out of horrible things.
But see the people on the streets.
It's awesome.
dave rubin
The thing is, it's not obvious to you as a, let's say more recent convert or whatever you want to call it.
Isn't it not obvious to you that the last liberals, so the Bobby Kennedy's and the Tulsi's and the you and me and Rogan, whoever that thing was, Elon, all these people, we were the last bulwark on the left.
before the crazy was there and it was growing and growing and growing and we all saw it and identity politics and pronouns and blah blah blah and everything's racist and there was this there was like a group of us right like originally it was Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris and this there was like this group of us that were trying to do it then it kind of expanded and then at some point enough of us were like all right we're jumping ship and we're gonna hang with the conservatives for whatever differences we have and we're gonna but we all love the country, we love freedom, and we love goodness and law and order and baba.
And now there's just nobody left.
So what happens?
You end up basically in like a bane Batman situation where the scarecrow's doing fake trials and then they're sending people out onto the ice.
That's not that far from it.
Like you're going to end up in just places where there will be sheer insanity.
jillian michaels
100%.
dave rubin
And then there will be people who remove themselves from the insanity.
That's partly what red blue, the red blue separation is.
But it's I think you don't want to jump.
Yeah, my God.
I'm okay, okay.
jillian michaels
Oh, God, this is so annoying.
unidentified
Go.
jillian michaels
Oh, okay, okay.
Because you, yes.
Okay, I don't, okay.
kamala harris
It can't jump ahead.
jillian michaels
It can't jump ahead.
I have to jump ahead.
dave rubin
Scarecrow doing trials, if I nail that one.
jillian michaels
People are trying to prevent and I'll give you an example coming up.
Now red states are trying to prevent people from blue states moving in and making zero connection to the way they voted with regard to the policy that they fled.
dave rubin
I'm very interested in where you're going with this.
jillian michaels
Okay, so we'll get there.
We'll get there.
But the long and the short of it is, this is working and it's kind of awesome.
And I will say that I watched a video of a black conservative on YouTube and he was saying that Trump props about that.
unidentified
Because, of course, you know, they're like, oh, he's, everyone's so racist.
jillian michaels
The whole right is racist.
And I thought that was really interesting.
Because, you know, it's like, oh, any police work now of black communities is considered racist, usually by white liberals.
And it was very interesting to see a black man saying, like, huh, black on black crime is down, huh, from the racist president.
dave rubin
As Trump said, even you more liberal people, you don't want to be raped.
It's like, right.
Unless they kind of do.
And I think in some sense they kind of do, actually, like in some weird, but okay, okay, let's go.
jillian michaels
Let's go.
I, yeah, I don't disagree with you.
Okay, immigration.
unidentified
So, okay.
jillian michaels
So, now this gets a little, this one is highly controversial and I'll get to that in a minute, but let me give you the facts.
So, the State Department announces on august 20 that nationals of Malawi and Zambia applying for a B1, B2 business and tourist visa will be required to post up to $15,000 bond, detering visa oversteads.
Okay, so, yeah, I get it all right.
So, now just the rundowns.
August 8, the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia just vacated Judge Busberg.
So, I'm probably mispronouncing that order, holding the Trump administration in criminal contempt for deporting illegal under the Illegal Alien Enemies Act.
unidentified
So that's good.
jillian michaels
Yeah, we're going.
We're going.
dave rubin
Okay.
jillian michaels
Superman actor Dean Kane is going to join ICE.
dave rubin
What?
I I know Dean.
We saw Dean at the airport not too long ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
Okay.
abby phillip
That's fun.
unidentified
ICE.
Okay.
dave rubin
100%.
jillian michaels
We'll have to I mean, his Superman, I don't know if he'll have to wear a mask.
Okay.
August 9.
Trump announces that judges can no longer block his policies nationwide.
dave rubin
However, wait, Trump announces.
jillian michaels
No, the Supreme Court ruled on the whole, like, okay, one federal judge ranting these nationwide.
Okay.
However, you know, there's workaroarounds, obviously, by filing a class action lawsuit.
And you're seeing that with the Dreamers.
unidentified
The Left is already on that and into it.
jillian michaels
And there you have it.
You know, there's always a loophole that both parties look for.
And this is theirs.
But he felt very excited about the victory at the time.
All right, Marco Rubio has halted all visitor visas from Gaza.
Oh, no, this is a.
Yeah, this one sucks.
This is sad.
California granted an illegal name Harginder Singh a commercial driver's license and he killed three people in Florida by performing an illegal U turn on a Florida turnpike.
Now, this guy doesn't speak English.
He failed all English proficiency tests and road sign tests.
And there's a there's a video of this one.
unidentified
The White House's rapid response social media account reposted a video of the accident with a statement criticizing the state of California for granting Singh a commercial driver's license.
aishah hasnie
The White House posting this.
This individual is an illegal immigrant who was granted a commercial driver's license by the state of California.
And now three innocent people are dead.
A White House spokesperson adding, this is a devastating traggedy, made even worse by the fact that it was totally preventable.
Illegal aliens that have no legal right to be in our country certainly should not be granted commercial driver's license.
dave rubin
I mean, how absolutely insane.
Like, okay, so fine, the guy comes in, that's one thing, we already know, okay, so a billion people have done that.
How do you give the guy a commercial driver's license?
jillian michaels
So here's what he did.
He did what everyone's doing and tried to use the asylum loophole.
Right?
So, by the way, who's running for their lives from India?
Like, there's no's no credible claim.
dave rubin
Obviously, you've never had day old butter chicken.
It's grooving on the stomach.
unidentified
All right.
I'm just, I mean, listen, you make a good point.
I didn't find that when I was researching this story, but possibly that's it.
jillian michaels
Nevertheless, he comes here illegally in 2018, does the I need asylum game.
Of course, the case is yet to be adjudicated.
And given Biden's policies, he was allowed to apply for a work permit.
So while you wait, which can take like seven to ten years, exactly.
So they, you know, we and the whole asylum system has been backed up because of this and true refugees are being denied relocation and so on and so forth.
So nevertheless, this guy knows the game, plays it, he gets the work permit and then he essentially games the system with translators and somehow pretends he can speak English.
Because you do have to speak English to get the license in California.
dave rubin
So in all fairness, not to get into the country, just to get the license.
jillian michaels
Just to get the license.
Just to get the license.
So he somehow games the system and pretends he can speak English to get this license.
unidentified
And in all fairness, I would love to say, Oh, Gavin Newsom.
jillian michaels
And I, you know, I can't stand Newsom.
But the reality is the guy did follow all the rules to get the work permit.
And, you know, these are all our policy problems that need to change.
dave rubin
Sure, that's not, that's really not an excuse of Newsom because he's still the chief executive of the state that's allowing a lot of stuff to happen.
jillian michaels
But, uh, listen, I totally agree with you.
But the thing, like, you're supposed to speak English.
He somehow gained the whole, like, there was no rule that he didn't have to speak English or know how to drive.
He just found a way to pretend like he did.
So there's, there's that.
And he ends up killing a bunch of people.
So in response to that, Marco Rubio froze the issuing of all worker visas for commercial truck drivers.
And he states that foreign drivers operating tractor trailer trucks are endangering Americans and undercutting the livelihoods of American truck drivers.
And then I gave you the whole background on this guy.
Now, here's one thing to note, and this is important.
His initial application for a work permit was denied under the Trump administration in September 2020, but it was approved under the Biden administration in June 2021.
dave rubin
Well, good for good for Rubio.
Look, you should not have illegals driving trucks cross country.
We have to deal with this either we deal with this now this is the one opportunity we will have as a nation to deal with this stuff Europe It's too late for most of Europe, certainly Western Europe, not Eastern Europe.
So we either deal with this stuff right now or we don't.
So good for Rubio.
And by the way, truckers who are usually amazed, you know any truckers, truckers are incredible people actually.
When I had a show on Sirius XM like 15 years ago or something, most of the callins, the people that would call into the show were truckers because they're just listening to stuff all day.
I found them to be the most thoughtful, smart, interesting because they just have time to think about the world and drive across the country.
It's a really interesting psychological makeup of someone that's a trucker that spends their life basically going like this all the time, they're going to be replaced by robots anyway, like so many other things.
So the idea that you'd be, you know, it's sort of like when they say, okay, bring in the illegals, they have someone to pick our tomatoes.
It's like, okay, well, the robots are going to pick our tomatoes soon, and then what are you going to do with those people?
So good for Rubio.
jillian michaels
The one thing I will tell you that I'm observing is a little bit of pushback on the right actually on this.
And you're starting to see somebody know a good, hardworking, taxpaying person has entered the country illegally.
And as it's affecting people, personally, you're starting to see them.
dave rubin
Oh, well, they're upset that their housekeeper is not going to be as cheap.
I'll give you an example.
unidentified
That's an example.
dave rubin
That's actually.
jillian michaels
Okay, not that one.
I actually hate that example.
Because, of course, it's like a way to maintain like a serfdom.
Right.
Of this class that just stays your housekeeper forever because she's not here legally and has no upward mobility because of that.
And that is gross.
But not so much that.
And, you know, I was watching Officer Tatum.
Do you ever watch that?
dave rubin
Yeah, yeah, better.
jillian michaels
And there was a lady that ran a restaurant and she was here for 30 years.
And he basically was saying, if we don't find a way for good people who want to do the right thing to get a path to citizenship.
The other side is going to do it and they're going to win those voters over.
There has to be a way to allow and facilitate good hard working people to contribute, to pay taxes, to give more than they take, which traditionally when immigrants are allowed to come in legally, their kids do better in school, they start more small businesses, they have huge upward mobility, they pay more into the system than they take.
But the way the laws have been set up, especially because of the Biden administration, it's, it's, you're seeing this.
Right, so people killed on a turnpike in Florida.
dave rubin
Right, so that's that incident.
obviously is horrific.
I'm guessing nobody really knows their names, right?
We never know the names of the people that get killed.
We only know the name of the bad people, which is also a cultural problem.
As for that specific thing, I mean, look, we all have that.
Hopefully, everyone has a little of that humanity in them, right?
So this woman that's been here 30 years and raised a family and that basically did everything right, like, is the goal of all of us to eliminate all of those people and upend so much?
people I don't think really think that.
The problem is, I mean, we've come back to this 10 times already, but the problem is the left has gone so crazy with everything.
And they never give credit nor an inch to the right on anything that there's...
F it.
We're just going to do what we got to do.
And at the end of the day, you either have laws or you don't.
So I don't know what the answer to that is.
Most people in their hearts of hearts, are you trying to rip away the 36-year-old woman with one kid who's here working that is legal that loves America and everything else?
Most people, the answer is no.
But either a law exists or don't.
So I don't know exactly.
And again, what was the country you mentioned before?
If I went to Zimbabwe, like if I went to Zimbabwe and I was there 10 extra years and they found me, they would kick me out and it would be within their rights..
So that's why this is so complex.
And again, it's why everything that the right, let's say, over reacts to is because the left is so insane.
All they have to do is not be so insane all the time, but now there's nobody left.
They're getting nobody left.
jillian michaels
We're insane though.
unidentified
I know how the woke is dead.
jillian michaels
I'm like, not really.
It's actually alive and well.
dave rubin
Well, you haven't mentioned anything out of New York City yet with the election.
I'm very curious about that because that's the recalibration of woke.
jillian michaels
I'm about to get there.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
Yeah, if Bernie was the architect, like, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, okay, we'll get there.
Okay.
Okay, so what else do I have for you here on this one?
August 18.
Stats show that ICE is deporting 1400 illegal immigrants today.
State Department revokes over 6000 student visas over assault, support of terrorism and overstays.
August 19, Boston Mayor Michelle Wu opened her Boston press conference against Trump's crime crackdown with singing Okay, it's not a video, I don't can't.
unidentified
Everybody, hu hu ya, hu hu ya, hu hu ya, ev la ti!
dave rubin
Yeah, good.
unidentified
Good.
dave rubin
Keep going, Democrats.
Keep going, Woo.
unidentified
It's good.
dave rubin
Who had a Christmas, remember, you know, she's the mayor of Boston who had the Christmas party only for her colored employees.
Like, like, okay, okay.
Keep going, ladies.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
jillian michaels
The United States immigrant population is now declining for the first time in fifty years.
dave rubin
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
jillian michaels
August 23, the State Department reviewed 55 million visa holders for deportable violations.
August 23, okay.
This one's wackadoodle dandy.
All right, are you ready?
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Woo.
So Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
It looks like he's going to be deported to Uganda in response to the de this?
dave rubin
To Uganda?
jillian michaels
Yeah, here's why.
dave rubin
Uganda, be kidding me.
jillian michaels
Nah, I'm not.
Because he's here under his asylum claim, as you know.
unidentified
Yeah.
But if you're afraid to go back to your country.
dave rubin
Oh.
We send you to Uganda.
jillian michaels
We still have a deportation order on good old Kilmar.
So if we have a deal with a third party country who's willing to take him, I mean, he's he's already got a deportation order.
So if we can't send him back, we're out of the way.
unidentified
Salvador, right?
dave rubin
Wait, so we're sending a simple Maryland man?
Just a regular Maryland man.
jillian michaels
Now I have more for you on this one.
dave rubin
Okay.
jillian michaels
People were so upset.
dave rubin
They love this guy.
They don't care about him.
unidentified
A vigil for him, okay?
jillian michaels
Where Glenn Ivey, one of the congressmen in Maryland, showed up and they sang and they prayed and they cried and they wept.
And for anyone who's been living under a rock that isn't familiar with Kilmar, beat his wife.
We have a video of that.
I mean, we don't, can I see?
dave rubin
I like videos of these people crying.
And they cry and they sing.
Yeah, yeah, I love the crying.
jillian michaels
Of course, the gays are out for Kilmar.
dave rubin
Just like we love him.
He's a human trafficker, right?
jillian michaels
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
Okay.
So we have a video on that.
We're pulling that up.
But, long story short, Christy Noam, listen to this.
As we were talking about the media earlier omitting facts and lying and manipulating narratives, she gives a whole speech about Kilmar and Bye bye Kilmar, and this is what we know about Kilmar, and it's like soliciting naked photos from minors and beating the crap out of his wife.
dave rubin
He beat his wife with a boot, he was human trafficker.
jillian michaels
Being a human trafficker, the whole thing, right?
And they have got informants that have come forward.
Long story short, CBS edits all that out of her speech, her talk, or whatever, her press conference.
And it looks like they're going to sue CBS.
goes, we were just cutting it for time.
So you cut out the parts about being the scum of the earth.
And the left is holding a vigil for Kilmar.
unidentified
He's divining you.
you and keep you.
dave rubin
I really forgot about some of this stuff, like that this stuff exists, like the fake rabbi, the queer moronons, like, are these real people?
Is this real life?
Remember that video twenty years ago, the kid whose dent was taken out, Daddy, is this real life?
Like, that's what this is.
These absurdly ridiculous buffoons.
Send them all to Uganda.
jillian michaels
Well, see, that's exactly what you're talking about.
How the left gets so crazy that the right is like, I can't, and it's like, yeah, okay.
enough of this, which is such a shame.
unidentified
Yeah.
jillian michaels
And I can't figure out of all the people to hang your hat on.
The guy's name is literally Kill.
Kill!
Kill!
unidentified
Yeah.
jillian michaels
For so long.
kamala harris
Kill.
unidentified
I, I, I, I, I, so Yeah, the left is crazier than ever.
jillian michaels
Um, all right, we got some stuff on social media issues.
This is this is about to get good.
Brown University made a deal with Trump to regain federal funding, which includes paying fifty million and scrapping affirmative action.
dave rubin
Great.
I mean, the Supreme Court already decided on that.
Fantastic.
unidentified
Done.
dave rubin
Oh, you're not going to choose people to come to your school based on race?
Wow.
Welcome to 2025.
unidentified
Okay.
Okay.
jillian michaels
Slot on laugh for you.
You're coming up now that's a bit of a pause, okay?
So, with that said, remember how we talked about how some of these red states are trying to blueproof?
dave rubin
Yeah, I like that.
jillian michaels
So Prager U has created a test for teachers in Oklahoma that they have to take it's called the America First test so take a look we got a little video for you on this I love it All right, so for anybody who's got teachers in their family in Oklahoma,
sandra smith
this is a story you'll probably want to listen to because there are teachers that are relocating there from progressive states who will now be evaluated on the America First agenda.
Oklahoma as a state now is going to require new teachers pass an America First test to keep their license.
They're going to have to have knowledge of the U.S. Constitution and understanding of American exceptionalism, a grasp of fundamental biological differences between boys and girls.
Perhaps for some this sounds like common sense.
dave rubin
I mean, you have to love the fact that it's like understand the constitution.
That's pretty good.
And then do you know the difference between boys and girls?
I am completely for this.
I love the fact that PragerU is involved with it.
That is spectacular because otherwise, That's why Florida is such a miracle, because the liberals who have come down here have become the craziest red people.
And that's why Miami is now like the most Republican stronghold in the country, even though it was blue ten years ago.
So that's great.
That's wonderful.
I hope more of that.
I'm still for telling DeSantis there should be an entry tax, so we should still dig a moat and throw gator and lasers on their heads.
unidentified
I'm still for that.
jillian michaels
You know what's interesting about that one actually is, I had this fight on CNN, which I am getting to, of how immoral and evil Alligator Alcatraz was.
But I had a friend.
I didn't know this at the time when I got into this whole argument, because I argued that the cages would be far more offensive, built by Obama.
My friend's like, you know, that's where the National.
Guard used to stay, right?
You think they just popped that up?
He's like, it was good enough for our military, but we're really upset about people who are here illegally staying there, but we weren't worried when the guard was staying there.
dave rubin
We drove across Alligator Alley just a few days ago and I should have stopped and taken the kids for a little bit.
jillian michaels
A little visit, I know.
Okay, so there you have the Prager U situation.
dave rubin
Oh, that's great.
jillian michaels
And it mostly is for teachers coming from California.
dave rubin
Of course.
jillian michaels
It's like, do you know literally what makes a boy what makes a girl?
You know, the chromosome code?
Yeah.
It's anyway, speaking of chromosomes.
unidentified
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Oh.
Nancy Pelosi is working hard to legalize sex changes for kids at the national level after Trump signed an order to protect children from chemical and surgical mutilation.
I'm sure you're not surprised, but take a look.
unidentified
How is your office responding to the positive and gender affirming care here in California?
nancy pelosi
Well, that is something I'm working for at the national level, and we have, how can I say, are hoping that we can have gender affirming care for our trans kids.
And that it's a sad thing for us.
dave rubin
You know, I'm going to try to do this in the most like I said to you at the top like I'm trying I don't want to add especially on the day I'm back I don't want to add to like all the hate and everything else That's like kind of demon level stuff.
jillian michaels
I was going to say can I yeah, can I add to it?
dave rubin
I do not I show to the kids a couple times during the break.
We watch Spidey and Friends.
It's like a little animated thing.
They're only three.
It's really for like six year olds, so David doesn't want me showing it.
Then we mostly do Bluey, but I show them Spider-Man and they're both running around pretending to be and then I got them a couple Spider-Man toys.
So they're pretending to be Spider-Man and Green Goblin and Electro, whatever.
And like we like I'm Spider-Man, I'm Spider-Man.
It's like, but it's a joke and you can see the glimmer in their eyes.
They know they're not Spider-Man.
They know they're not Dr. Octopus.
It's not to say whatever that percentage is and all the stuff.
I hate making all the excuses.
It's so boring.
But for her to be like, we're going to try to nationalize that at this point, lady, go away.
What are you doing, lady?
Go play with your grandchildren.
Just go away already.
Enough of these demon people.
I don't know how to describe it.
Like, if the world corrects itself ever, if the earth ever heals, we will look back as Jordan.
calls, these are butchers, what they have done to young children.
That is not to say an adult can't dress as they want, blah, blah, blah.
But ugh, evil.
I can't believe.
I mean, still, does she still think that's a winner?
You think that's a winner lady?
jillian michaels
Here's my theory on this one.
Obviously, Big Pharma is one of the biggest lobbies in Washington.
It is a multi-billion dollar business with a compact annual growth rate of roughly nine percent.
So it's a huge industry.
One drug alone, like Lupron off-label, which is an off-label cancer drug, right?
That they're giving to kids.
It's a multibillion dollar business.
I think that's what this is about, if I had to guess, because the data is there.
We had the CAS review by Dr. Hillary Cass, one of the top pediatrics out of the United Kingdom, who spent four years doing a systematic review of every single study involving gender affirming care.
You've got Shellenberger releasing the WPATH files showing all of the corruption involved in this industry.
Europe tracks back after the CAS review and is like, okay, hold on.
We have to rethink this whole gender affirming situation on children.
We know it sterilizes them.
We know it causes sexual dysfunction for the rest of their life.
It affects their bone development, their brain development, their teeth literally crack in their skull.
It's like, we know all of this.
There's no way.
This isn't like a, oh, I'm worried they're going to kill themselves.
We already know actually they're more likely to kill themselves after being transitioned from the regret.
So she's not an idiot.
She might be a demon person, but she's not dumb, Dave.
dave rubin
It's so interesting because it's hard to imagine, it's actually hard to imagine someone selling out at that level for money, right?
Everyone makes compromises in life, everyone whatever.
But like someone that would be like, I'm going to literally like destroy the lives of if it's as simple in some sense as what you're saying right like that they're just looking at numbers right like it's probably like it's probably not much more complex than your offer no it's not because because it's so because it's not all the data it's not i promise you no no i have to no so i'm with you on that but i just it would be hard to be in the mind like if we were sitting here truly with Nancy Pelosi and the camera wasn't going is it is she really like i really believe that these children or
jillian michaels
is it really the numbers and if it's the numbers like it's literally like the cash here'd be my question to you though if you're going to make a decision with consequences that severe and you're in a position that holds that kind of power, wouldn't you be responsible enough to do the research?
So is Ashley Well, no, so that's it.
She's either a complete moron.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Or she's on the take.
So you get it right.
dave rubin
It's right.
So that's why.
jillian michaels
There's no middle of the road here.
It's not a guessing game.
There's no plausible deniability.
The information exists.
So you tell me.
dave rubin
I mean, I think that's why I quote them all the time.
But about ten years ago, when I heard my friend Pete Bogosian, who you probably know, say that when woke enters something, it destroys the entire institution.
And that's what it's done to these people's brains.
It's what Gad said called the woke mind virus, that it actually then supersedes all the other logic and reason and everything else.
And then so you end up like the, because the best version of what we'd be saying about Pelosi is she's just misguided, but that just doesn't, like there's just no way that computes.
So you're right.
It's either you're correct And that's, and I guess the easier answer is probably.
jillian michaels
There's just no way she could be, there's no plausible deniability anymore because the research exists and you have a responsibility to do it.
We're talking about kids.
dave rubin
It's also, not adults.
It's also what's so dangerous about what they've done because they've all, it's like when you call someone racist, it's not.
You do it for so long that when you wake up and then you're like, Oh, maybe that person isn't racist.
Well, you know, now you're going to be called a racist.
So they're all in on it.
They're all in on it together.
jillian michaels
Okay, I have a question for you.
unidentified
Yes.
jillian michaels
What is more likely?
unidentified
Uh oh.
jillian michaels
The New York Times gave me a fair shake in my op ed, or CNN launched a national campaign to brand me as a racist.
dave rubin
Oh, you made some news.
That's nice.
Well, I would say it's definitely possible the New York Times gave you a fair shake in an op ed, because they occasionally do that.
Every they go what the New York Times always does is they lead with insanity and then they suddenly throw in something that's sane so that the few people that have neurons firing stay subscribed, something like that.
So that strikes me as very much what the New York Times might do.
Interesting.
And the other one was, did CNN launch a campaign to destroy you?
That seems, yeah, that seems likely.
jillian michaels
So, oh my God, you've got it.
dave rubin
Yeah, that's, oh, that seems.
I've been around the game a while since then.
unidentified
Come on.
jillian michaels
So this is important because it ties back to this whole thing with Trump wanting to pull federal funding from the Smithsonian Museums because of certain exhibits that we're going to get into just a moment.
But he wants to revisit some of these installations, some of these exhibits within the Smithsonian Museums.
And of course, the left has gone bananas on this, right?
So I reach out, I'm going on CNN.
And I must admit that I was warned by you.
dave rubin
And I was, we should play that clip.
unidentified
That was in July.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
And, you know, it's like, but it is very I don't regret it.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
It's a conversation that we need to have.
CNN might obviously not be the forum where you're allowed to have it.
I do think it's imperative that we bridge our ideologies, we talk to the other side.
That's clearly not the point of Abby Phillips show on Phillips show on CNN.
So, nevertheless, this is coming up, right?
So I get the list of topics, and one is the Smithsonian.
And I know exactly where they're going to go.
And I've just come back from Africa, by the way, Dee, so I'm out of loop, like you are.
And I'm like, oh my God, I have to jump back into this.
I don't really know anything about this.
And I reach out to the column team at the White House.
And I say, like, hey, you know, this is going to come up.
Can you tell me, like, what is the goal here?
Because it is the Smithsonian.
And I'm thinking, like, why are we revisiting?
I don't know anything about what's in there.
Nothing about what's controversial.
unidentified
And they send me fifty pages, okay?
dave rubin
And it's all just like woke exhibitions.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that seems.
jillian michaels
Banana pants.
So it's it's stuff like a white culture poster that has subsequently been removed where it talks about how we're inherently Oh, I remember that one.
dave rubin
That one was.
And we've got to win it all.
jillian michaels
It's stuff comparing George Floyd and Shea Guevara to Jesus.
It's stuff where they talk about Cuban immigration to the United States and they completely neglect to mention Castro and just make it about how the United States is a government backed Bautista for their own financial gain and because of, you know, this white government did this and that's why Cubans left and that's what brought on the Cuban revolution.
Don't even mention Castro one time.
And then they get into gender testing in sports.
dave rubin
Just all the stuff.
jillian michaels
Okay, all right.
dave rubin
Yeah, I got it.
jillian michaels
So, okay.
So now this comes up and I know in my mind that they're going to try to pretend like it's about erasing slavery.
And I know that there is not one installation that the administration has taken umbrage with.
Now Trump has subsequently gone on to say, look, it's all about like bad guys, you know, white bad guys and slavery, but why don't we have some good stuff in there too?
So that kind of came out later.
So here's what happened.
Take a look.
dave rubin
Yeah.
unidentified
He went into the Smithsonian.
He's effectively now has some random person deciding what is appropriate for the Smithsonian to teach in terms of American history.
Things that don't offend parts of the MAGA base, right?
So we're now literally reviewing parts of American history and parts of American culture to make sure it comports with Dear Leader and what the MAGA is about.
jillian michaels
Can we address some of those things that are out there?
Because have you looked at some of the things that happened?
unidentified
Yeah, slavery was a bad thing to talk about.
Okay.
Like, he forgettes that.
jillian michaels
He's not whitewashing slavery.
unidentified
So he's not.
He's not.
No.
jillian michaels
He's not.
And you can't tie imperialism and racism and slavery to just one race.
Which is pretty much what every single exhibit does.
abby phillip
But look, you have a lot of stuff in front of you.
Yeah, I do, because I don't think this is what you're talking about.
jillian michaels
Okay, I'll give you an example.
Yeah, please.
There's one called Change Your Game, right?
This, this has been an installation there.
Is gender testing fair in sports?
Does that, and then it goes on to talk about how it's complex to do gender testing in sports.
It's not complex.
It's basic science.
That's science.
That's not true.
unidentified
It's XX chromosome, XY chromosome.
jillian michaels
That's sports.
Is it fair to have biological men competing against biological women in sports?
No.
But why is this in the Smithsonian?
So it's it's been completely captured.
abby phillip
First of all, I don't understand.
And it's totally, we don't have time to litigate.
jillian michaels
Of course we don't, because then we're going to lose the argument.
And if everything is racialized, just like you're trying to do to me now.
So this took a little bit of a turn.
Here's what happened.
So we're supposed to be in the middle of a conversation about the Smithsonian.
So Julie Rajinski is so smug.
And I'm about to nail her because I know she's making the whole thing up about slavery.
Because she has no idea what's even in there, right?
So I'm like, no, he's not with extreme confidence.
And I'm like, by the way, sidebar, this has been going on for thousands of years.
Like, stop demonizing just one race, because nothing good is going to come out of that, right?
So I'm about to list all the things you and I just talked about.
And all of a sudden, Abby Phillip and Richie Torres go, I can't believe you're trying to relitigate slavery in America.
I go, I'm not.
I just told you slavery has been around for thousands of years.
And we continue.
They're like, oh, well, this is a system of oppression.
And now we're having two separate conversations, right?
And I'm like, okay, am I talking about the Smithsonian stuff?
And like, there's nothing about slavery in the Smithsonian?
Or, sorry, the installation he's taking numbers with?
And by the way, let's talk about slavery.
So then I'm like, okay, you know what, I'm ready to take this on because I come back from Africa and there's nothing but really negative racial stories in the news.
And it's bad.
It's like a white woman who had a five year old black kid go through her back and she calls him the N word and then raises like almost a million dollars online in defense of herself and to try to relocate.
Okay, and then simultaneously you've got the thing in the cinema where, arguably, children of an unknown race get beaten by a professor.
Then you've got like, oh, two white people who get crap out of them by a black mob.
dave rubin
That happened just before I went off.
jillian michaels
Okay, so you saw that.
dave rubin
Okay, that was a festival or something.
unidentified
Right, yeah, yeah.
jillian michaels
So for me personally, and this is a bit of a sidebar, not August news, but I've never in my life seen racial issues this bad.
dave rubin
And I think it is Yeah, because we're children of the eighties and we put all this shit down and these motherfuckers are trying to, that was my first F mom.
There you go.
We're back, baby.
jillian michaels
It's back.
dave rubin
Yeah, they're trying to rehash.
jillian michaels
It's working.
dave rubin
And bring back all the.
It's working.
jillian michaels
Yeah.
So at this point now, I'm about to take it on, right?
And I was like, okay.
Do you realize that less than two percent, and this is from the 1860 census, right?
Less than two percent of white Americans own slaves, and I'm about to continue on to say, it ends up going in multiple directions.
And then I'm like, this has been going on for thousands of years.
And if we were to continue litigating, because then you know the argument is, well, the whole South built their economy on it.
It's like, and despite that, the North banned it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Like, and they're like, oh, well, people b fought and died to maintain it.
And yes, we have entire cemeteries of people who fought and died to end it.
jillian michaels
It is not about erasing slavery, but where is the part about the good guys?
Why is that always left out of the equation?
Why are you not teaching young white kids about the good white guys that died to end this evil?
So, long story short, Abby Phillip and CNN launch a multiweek campaign in numerous episodes of her show to brand me as a racist.
She then goes on Kara Swisher's podcast and lies.
And she's like, I don't know.
We're just having a conversation about the arts and she just brings this up.
And I had to educate her and my whole show now about the history of slavery.
And she goes on talking about how I defended white people in a slavery debate.
Jesus.
And relitigate slavery in America despite the fact that I said I'm not twice on her show and that this has been going on for thousands of years.
dave rubin
And this is all going bananas viral and all that stuff.
jillian michaels
All going bananas viral, of course.
Like everyone on the right comes out and, like, Thank God you said something.
It's about time we said something.
Everyone on the left, oh, she's a racist and someone should call DCFS because she has a black kid.
And I'm like, this is insane.
And D, it's so bad right now in the country.
dave rubin
And I've got some other clips for you of it, but it's Let me just give you one take on Abby Phillips.
I don't know if you've heard me talk about her before, but I genuinely I know, I must have said this to you because I was warning you about going on a show.
She is, without question, the dumbest person on television.
There's nothing behind her eyes.
She's an idiot who they who can read from a teleprompter somewhat appropriately and then never then she looks like a deer in headlights the whole time until either someone tells her to say something or she throws a commercial.
There's nothing she is we talked about we started with cogs in the system.
She is a cog in the system.
They gave her that chair and they will take away that chair as quickly as they gave it to her one day and then she'll sue them for being racist.
That's how this game and the script is written.
jillian michaels
But before this, on the episode of her show that I did about the kids at the marijuana farm, do you know she flat out lied on her show and said that it was legal for minors?
dave rubin
I remember that.
Oh, we got a marijuana.
That was a few days, yeah.
jillian michaels
I don't think so.
Yes, it is.
Of course it's absolutely not.
Do you think they issued a correction?
dave rubin
We covered that a few days before I left and I paused the show.
I said to one of the guys, could you could we just google that?
I'm pretty sure that illegal.
jillian michaels
Google it illegal.
unidentified
They are not allowed to work at a marijuana farm, but she drilled down on it.
jillian michaels
She absolutely insisted.
She contradicted and corrected me despite the fact that I was right.
Did no correction or apology after the fact.
I mean, like, we were wrong.
unidentified
Actually, miners are not allowed to work at a marijuana farm.
dave rubin
But, well, good for you going, Brian.
Can I, for one second, try the metaversion of what's happening here, which is that you represent the, you know, you're like sort of, in this case, you're like the avatar for the new media.
And because we're still in this fight between old and new media, and it doesn't mean that all the new media is good either, but because these things are now so disconnected, what they try to do is they try to then bring on new media people into old media formats and it doesn't work right because you have you have very scripted people with things in their ears being told what to say reading things and then you have people like you who are thoughtful and interesting and show nuance who know what they're doing so this it's it's as if the ingredient doesn't work with the overall uh what you're trying to base basically it's really
jillian michaels
deliberate though dave like oh it is deliberate of course it's deliberate like the conversation if we were just having a talk about the arts julia rujinski just called yeah parts of the magabish racist yeah made the dear leader like nazi kim jong un reference to trump and then said slavery's bad, we should talk about it.
Like a conversation about the arts and then claim that I brought it up and lied numerous times about it.
This is the stuff we were talking about earlier with how do you handle these things with the legacy media.
I'm working through that now, but I guarantee I'm not letting everybody get away with it.
That's all I'm going to say right now.
dave rubin
As John McLean said in Die Hard, welcome to the party, pal.
jillian michaels
I guess so.
But it's a fight I'm here for, for sure.
And the last thing I want to say about this, truthfully, is that as a mom to a white boy and a black girl, this stuff distresses me.
unidentified
Yeah.
jillian michaels
I would say honestly more than anything going on in our culture right now.
And I see young boys, my son's age, leaning towards things that are very far right.
And, you know, the Tate brothers, Nick Fuentes, that's deeply alarming to me.
And the more you demonize these young boys, not my son, but I hear about it.
He tells me about it.
The more you demonize these kids, the more you're going to breed a whole new generation of racists.
dave rubin
Do you remember, we've shown it on my show many times, there's a clip of Jordan on Rogan, Jordan Peterson, obviously on Rogan from probably about eight years ago.
And it's at the height of, it was almost before we called it.
woke, so it's like early woke, identity politics.
And Jordan says, maybe we'll play it on my show tomorrow.
Jordan says, wait till you see what the reaction will be of young white boys who will grow up in this situation.
That's so true.
And again, so everything, whatever people think the excesses are of the right, it's because the left never knows when they've gone too far.
They have created the condition, they own the culture, and then they created the conditions to then tell young, I can only imagine being the parent, the mother of a 14-year-old, how old did you say yourself?
jillian michaels
He's 13.
dave rubin
He's 13.
A 13-year-old kid who's grown up in a culture that said you're bad because of your skin color, you're bad because of your sexuality, you're bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, your gender, all these things.
jillian michaels
The boys are leaning, Dave, not again, like Phoenix has, my son Phoenix, you're Phoenix, has like a sense of the center.
And, you know, he leans into the Sean Ryans and the Joe Rogans of the world, which is great.
the friends some of them are leaning very far right and it's And you're seeing high schools in the middle of the country take back the name of Robert E. Lee and bring back the Confederate flag.
And I don't think it's because these kids are like clan members.
I think it's just a giant FU to this whole kind of demonization of these young white boys.
And simultaneously, I have a black daughter being raised by all white people.
It wasn't on purpose.
Haiti was a country that was open while I was adopting internationally.
Long story short, like, why do I want my daughter to think all white people are bad?
I absolutely do not want her to think that.
In fact, I bought her on this one trip, and then we'll get back to the news.
We were in New Orleans one summer when she was probably eight.
And I bought her the diary of a Union soldier from one of those antique stores from 1861.
It's the coolest thing in the world, Dave.
It's like handwritten.
And I always wanted her to know, as much darkness as there is in the world, there are still good guys.
unidentified
And at the end of the day, I will stand by it.
jillian michaels
There are good guys that fought to end this.
And I want my daughter to know not all white people are bad.
In fact, the vast majority are good.
So that's the latest.
dave rubin
You are controversial.
abby phillip
Oh, aren't I?
dave rubin
Well, congratulations, you know, getting in the fray and having Abby go out and the rest of it.
unidentified
So there we go.
jillian michaels
Okay, so now, moving on.
Okay, this is good news.
Trump Economy, the Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney announces that Canada will be dropping their retaliatory tariffs against the U.S. and removing tariffs on U.S. goods covered by existing trade deals.
Got a video on it.
unidentified
Let's take a look.
mark carney
So let's be absolutely clear.
Canada currently has the best trade deal with the United States.
And while it's different.
from what we had before, it is still better than that of any other country.
So as we work to address outstanding trade issues with the United States, it's important.
It's vital.
We do everything we can to preserve this unique advantage for Canadian workers, Canadian businesses.
In this context, and consistent with Canada's commitment to COSMA, I'm announcing today that the Canadian government will now match, we will now match the United States by removing all of Canada's tariffs on U.S. goods specifically covered under COSMA.
jillian michaels
Oh, promise.
dave rubin
Yeah, surprise, surprise.
Again, I mean, that's just one of the ones that I was like, yes, David Sachs, I like the line.
We have to just see where all the deals land.
And yes, congratulations.
Now you can buy cheese in Canada from America without a 30% tariff so that nobody was buying American cheese.
And it seems like he's trying to save face a little bit.
Okay, good.
We're trying to soften it and get back into negotiations.
Okay.
jillian michaels
Okay, we got a lot to cover on this one.
So I have to be a bit more rapid fire here.
So where did we leave you on this whole redistricting chaos?
dave rubin
I think the literally the last day I was leaving, there was just like a bunch of stories breaking on, was it Texas and Gulf Coast?
jillian michaels
Yeah, so the Democrats left and Beto O'Rourke tried to fund their ability to leave.
And now Ken Paxton is investigating that as though it's, I think, bribery and they're trying to shut down the organization.
unidentified
that they've used to fund these Democrats in the Little League.
jillian michaels
Long story short, they get the five seats, okay?
So that's where that's at.
dave rubin
Wait, the Republicans got the five seats in Texas, okay?
jillian michaels
Okay, they got the five seats.
In response to that, oh, hold on, this is important.
A Texas State Rep, Jolanda Jones, who fled the state to Illinois.
So she fled Texas to Illinois to try to avoid their ability to, like, convene everyone and get the seats.
She compared it to the Holocaust.
dave rubin
Of course.
jillian michaels
She compared the redistribution to the Holocaust.
unidentified
So I mean, just because just because the concentration camps are just miles from here.
dave rubin
We're just a mild registration thing.
jillian michaels
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
Then JD Vance says, if we did the census anew right now, we'd have ten additional Republican seats and nine fewer Democratic seats.
There's a video, but that's basically the gist of it.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
Now here's where it gets crazy.
Our favorite person, Gavin Newsom steps up to the plate.
And long story short, he puts forward this thing called Prop fifty, because California has this whole independent commission against gerrymandering, particularly, right?
So he says, I want to put forward this Proposition fifty to change the situation.
to take them out of the equation.
And I'm going to respond to what Texas is doing.
And I want seven percent representation for Republicans.
Now we have seventeen percent, I think, percent.
And I think thirty eight percent of Californians are Republicans.
dave rubin
Okay.
jillian michaels
So this is gone bananas.
California already has forty three Democratic seats, only nine Republican seats.
He's on fire with this.
And he's like daring Trump to come after him.
It doesn't look like the Republicans are going to be able to block this proposition, fifty votes in November.
So now they're in a war over who's gerrymandering worse.
dave rubin
I kind of hate this.
My general take would be both sides are going to do it.
jillian michaels
Yeah.
dave rubin
Obviously, I can't speak to the specifics of things that happened when I was gone, but like, both sides are going to do it.
And would I put and he has a super majority.
And it just is what it is, and let's not belaborate the point of California.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
So that's that none of us live there anymore.
jillian michaels
Well, they're all now going to do it.
So you kind of nailed it.
Missouri is going to redraw their map, and it just goes on and on and on and on and on.
Okay.
Now then, 2028 Buzz.
Trump tells Peter Dossi that the heir to MACA may be GDP.
maybe JD Vance, maybe Marco Rubio.
Maybe they'll come together.
Take a look.
peter doocy
You said this morning that you probably won't be running for a third term.
This weekend, Secretary of State Rubio said that he thought JD Vance would be a great nominee.
You could clear the entire Republican field right now.
Do you agree that the heir apparent to MAGA?
is JD Vance.
donald j trump
Well, I think most likely, in all fairness, he's the vice president.
I think Marco is also somebody that maybe would get together with JD in some form.
dave rubin
It's a great answer.
It's honest.
It's true.
And if it was Rubio and JD or JD and Rubio?
No, it would be JD and Rubio because I don't think they would switch it the other way, but it would be great.
How much better?
I'm crazy in that man.
No, no, of course I'd love to see that man.
jillian michaels
But there's a lot of good chances.
dave rubin
No, but maybe Chelsea goes to Secretary of State at that point.
You just never know.
It's a little early to talk about that.
We could punt that one, but like, okay.
Yes, they have a great bench and good people who are competent and could lead the country again.
That would be perfectly lovely.
jillian michaels
So here's something strange.
Gavin Newsom has become Donald Trump.
Actually, you cannot make this up.
He's tweeting like him.
He's making merch like him.
He's got a couple of kids that he hired.
and they just copy, verbatim, literally, every single thing that Trump does.
It's super, duper bizarre.
And for example, Gavin Newsom copies his MAGA hat and says, New merch coming soon, you're welcome, Patriots, like all caps.
He's been trolling people.
Newsom was right about everything.
unidentified
What?
dave rubin
He was never he's never been right about anything.
Yeah, I get it, I get it.
jillian michaels
It's like he's trying to become Donald Trump.
dave rubin
But you can't fake becoming Trump.
That's the thing.
You can't fake it.
Keep going, man.
unidentified
Keep going.
jillian michaels
He's like there's nothing authentic about it.
Like, it's all performative theater.
unidentified
Meanwhile, not one home on PBCH has been rebuilt.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Carola posts these updates and it's like, not one home, not one construction crew.
And this guy is, I So anyway, him and Trump have been doing their usual kind of pissing match and shenanigans and Newsom Helda, a Reckoning day, what was it, Independence Day about the gerrymandering press conference.
And then Trump had an ICE raid there and kind of same old, same old.
dave rubin
Okay.
I think we've seen that.
Kind of the same old.
Yeah, okay.
jillian michaels
Okay.
Now, this is great.
dave rubin
Okay.
jillian michaels
DeSantis announced Hulk Hogan Appreciation Day.
dave rubin
I love the video.
When is it?
When is it?
ron desantis
Okay, take a look.
Today in the state of Florida, I've declared to be Hulk Hogan Appreciation Day.
And in recognition of someone who was obviously a major figure for many, many decades, particularly for kids, people in my generation was a big, big guy, and was right there in the Tampa Bay area for many, many decades.
So all I'll tell you is, make sure on this day that you're training, saying your prayers, and eating your vitamins, brother, because he would have wanted you to do that.
dave rubin
I love that.
I know it's a little bit of a throwaway, but I love it.
One of the, you know, probably like you, I've met like so many people that I would have ever wanted to meet or like heroes.
I met Hogan once, got to spend like an hour with him.
Just me, him and Jimmy Hart, who is his manager, like wrestling manager.
And we got like an hour together and he gave me a big headlock.
I have a picture of it.
And he was just a great human being and to see the way I was at MSG at the rally, the Trump rally that he came out of, that was, to me, the most yeah, it's awesome.
Yeah, he passed right before I went off so good.
That's a sad one.
jillian michaels
Even better news.
DeSantis is looking to end property tax.
dave rubin
So is it going to happen?
I mean, they've been fighting for it.
We have the strength to do it.
jillian michaels
There's a video.
Why do you want to, should we toss it?
dave rubin
We can probably let it go.
jillian michaels
Long story short, he's basically worried about people who've retired that can no longer afford it.
And he goes on to say, like, they just continue to pay this every single year.
And it's like, it's crippling.
dave rubin
No, you end up punishing people that live here.
Meanwhile, we have the number one record tourism for the last five years or something every year.
So if you need the revenue, which it's not even clear that we need the revenue because we're such a well-run state.
But if you need the revenue, you could charge a little more.
more in taxes for all the tourism stuff offsetting the property tax because if you allow people to you buy your home you don't have to pay taxes on that, the value of that land forever, then they can reinvest more in their home.
I hope he can get it through.
It's been a big fight.
jillian michaels
It's amazing.
Yeah.
Because anyway, I'm impressed.
I mean, he's actually focused on running his state.
Isn't that crazy?
unidentified
It's not.
jillian michaels
I know, no merch, just trying to run the state.
That's where I live.
So this one's, I gotta show you this, because this is so friggin' bananas.
So Mark Carney went to a Vancouver Pride parade.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Okay.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
anything to say?
dave rubin
Where was Trudeau?
Where was Trudeau?
jillian michaels
I don't know really.
dave rubin
Was that Trudeau?
Maybe I need to see the picture.
Did he shave his head?
I've been out of the game for a while.
Like, it's all just so ridiculous, dude.
Like, for the naked guy, it's like, dude, go live your life, but you're not helping.
You want gay people to be treated okay and fairly and all those things.
You people are actually doing the reverse of all that.
And the pandering ridiculous.
Like, who in Carney's circle was like, hug that guy?
Put that up again for a second.
jillian michaels
Like, I know.
dave rubin
Now our YouTube channel is going to get deleted.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dave rubin
Come back.
Nobody wants to see that.
Did that guy really think, boy, people want to see that?
jillian michaels
Do you remember the picture of Biden on the White House lawn with the transgender individual with the bobs sticking out and everything?
I don't, this to me obviously bothers me for the same reason it bothers you.
And it's like you wouldn't want this from anyone.
No adult should be naked on the street in front of kids.
I don't care what your orientation is.
It's inappropriate and it's counterintuitive.
And here's a perfect example of how, in my opinion.
So Nancy Mace launched a bid for governor of South Carolina and Marcia Blackburn announced she's going to run for governor in Tennessee.
And yeah, there's no video on this.
It's just like what I don't love is, you know, Marcia Blackburn's not for gay marriage.
dave rubin
Is she not?
I've interviewed her a couple times before.
jillian michaels
I don't think so.
dave rubin
I would bring it up with her next time.
jillian michaels
I think she's not.
And pretty aggressively not.
dave rubin
Look, anyone can have whatever their own religious and personal philosophical belief is.
I don't think that should supersede someone, another citizen's right to engage in a relationship that they wish to engage in.
And I think the ship has really sailed on that.
jillian michaels
So I would hope so.
dave rubin
I wouldn't really, well, certainly at a governor level, a governor has no ability to do anything about that.
jillian michaels
But here's the concern.
I'll try to be quick.
It's like, I think you saw there, there was some worry they're going to try to bringing up gay marriage in the Supreme Court.
It turned out to be a nothing burger.
It had to do, like, long story short, the Supreme Court didn't agree to hear this case yet.
It had to do with this woman's freedom of speech, I think, and religion, not necessarily relitigating gay marriage, but the concern is that it could come up.
And then like, what if it gets kicked back to the States?
And if it does, you know, what kind of impact does it have?
dave rubin
Well, in the end of the day, we have equal protection under the law that's guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States.
Marriage in and of itself is not in the Constitution.
So if you're going to say that straight people can get married, then gay people can get married.
jillian michaels
But let's, all right.
We'll keep it rolling.
All right.
Here we go.
August 11.
I've been told that a former Democrat Intelligence Committee staff, turned whistleblower, told the FBI in 2017 that Adam Schiff personally approved leaking classified information on Russia to smear President Trump.
I probably should have had this earlier, but there we go.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
Oh, we're jumping forward.
unidentified
Okay, we got the beta or work stuff, blah, blah, blah with the taxes.
jillian michaels
Ah huh.
Oh, this is important.
You should know this.
President Trump took a victory lap over the corrupt New York Attorney General, Letitia James.
unidentified
The whole foreign events was excessive and punitive.
dave rubin
Yeah.
unidentified
So that's out.
dave rubin
Good.
jillian michaels
Ah, you want to see Joy Reid talking about how white people are scumbags?
I'm just giving it.
unidentified
Yeah, um, I want new things.
dave rubin
That's just old.
jillian michaels
So many of us.
dave rubin
Oh, Joy Reid calls someone racist.
jillian michaels
Yeah, we're all racists.
All of our ancestors.
dave rubin
I like this.
Let's see if you can just keep shutting up on that unless something really moves me.
jillian michaels
Okay, Omar Fatay.
dave rubin
Oh, yeah.
So this guy Somali pirate who wants to be a Somali pirate.
jillian michaels
No more.
So the Dems actually pulled out of their support for this guy because they think that the race was rigged, citing missing balance and insecurcure election machine.
So here's Minneapolis Mayor Frey.
Take a look.
dave rubin
So they're bringing Frey back?
Yeah, I'm hilarious.
jacob frey
It's not a scenario where you need to take my word for it.
It's actually the same.
As the state party said, and as the investigation showed, this was a process that was rife with errors and misconduct.
Hundreds of people didn't get counted out of hundreds of votes in total.
There was an entire ward where nobody knew who the ward delegates were.
The whole thing went missing.
I don't know.
We still don't know exactly how they came to the determination based on that ward.
The data itself was given to the other campaigns and they were allowed to edit it.
dave rubin
I mean, okay, fine.
The Somali Pirates got, but they have this guy still who's just like a pathetic, progressive, pandering putt.
So okay.
jillian michaels
He gets worse in a minute.
But real quick, because I can't remember if it's somewhere on the ground here, Mandani continues to grow in New York.
dave rubin
And it's happening.
jillian michaels
Warren basically came out.
Senator Warren was like, this is the future of the party.
dave rubin
Of course.
You guys have, there's no bulwark against it.
And I'm telling you, the thing that I'm afraid of with him, of course.
The thing that I'm afraid of is they're going to fake.ake he's going to win and they're going to fake it for a year.
Socialism can be faked for a year.
because the Democrats turn on the violence when they want and they shut it off so they'll stop with the craziness.
The government run grocery stores.
They'll work for about a year until the workers start realizing they have no skin in the game and all and then the system fails.
But the question is, does it scale at that year?
I mean, do people are looking at it like in that year and then being like, okay, bring it to Minneapolis, bring it to San Francisco, Los Angeles and everything.
jillian michaels
I mean, we've done this before.
We did it in the 70s and it was an abject failure.
So again, I'm sure you caught the video of him saying like he wants to seize production and he doesn't believe in prisons and there's no need for personal property.
You didn't miss any of those.
dave rubin
I didn't miss any of that.
still curious though he's a big he keeps he's marching out there with the queers and the lgbtqs and everything and for some reason i'm guessing that his mosque does not do gay marriages and i just wish someone would ask him a question about why he would attend such a bigoted religious institution but nobody wants to bring that up it's only there was a journalist in america i don't disagree with you there is a video of him meeting a spot to do two reps of the bench press i guess trying to imply that he's a soy boy but the the long story sure is Let's
unidentified
go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go!
Yeah!
dave rubin
me get one more Let me get one Let me get three Let me get three All I'm gonna tell you is you really could barf in your government run shoes, couldn't you?
Yeah, he's gonna win.
jillian michaels
He's gonna win, I think.
dave rubin
Goodbye, New York.
jillian michaels
Sad news there.
So, John Bolton.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
Now you don't know anything about this, right?
dave rubin
Did he shave his mustache?
jillian michaels
No.
Okay.
So, this one's been pretty controversial.
Federal agents raided his home in Maryland.
And of course, for anyone who's not aware, he's Trump's former National Security Advisor.
Take a look.
brian kilmeade
We're back with the Fox News Alert.
We're just learning glaring the FBI agents have raided the Maryland home of former Trump national security adviser John Bolton.
It happened at 7 am this morning.
ainsley earhardt
Shortly after the raid began, FBI director Cash Patel posting on X, quote, No one is above the law.
FBI agents on a mission.
jonathan turley
It is intriguing here because these are longstanding allegations that the book indicated or referenced classified material that he may have acquired when he was in the administration.
We're not clear as to what that is, but it would suggest that it could be national defense information.
jillian michaels
Okay, so here's basically what happened.
dave rubin
He wrote a book in the room where it happened., right?
jillian michaels
And it had to do with the seventeen months he spent in the job for Trump.
Long story short, the accusation is that he has classified documents that he sent on a private server to his wife and his daughter.
Initially, I guess the Trump administration in 2020 had tried to block this.
The Biden administration started, continued the investigation and then I guess put it to bed.
Nobody really knows why they put it to bed.
Cash Patel has just revived it.
Trump says he knows nothing about it.
The scandals are as follows.
Are we weaponizing?
dave rubin
You know that this is all the usual stuff.
jillian michaels
Are we weaponizing it?
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
dave rubin
I mean, I kind of remember when the book came out and people were saying, was he allowed to write some of this stuff?
But it all goes through.
I'm sure it was published by Penguin or somebody huge or Simon Shooter.
It all goes through layers of security.
jillian michaels
He said he had permission from this woman and from the archive who's in charge of classification.
It's a bit muddy, to be honest.
We really don't know what's going on.
But that's the big question is, this is unprecedented.
But Mike, wait, how is it unprecedented?
Didn't we just do this in Mar a Lago?
dave rubin
Right, it feels like the same thing.
jillian michaels
What's unprecedented?
dave rubin
Also, I know plenty of people who were in former government positions who've written books and I've talked to several of them about it.
Like, you have to go through a process to figure out what's allowed.
jillian michaels
So the concern is obviously like Trump's vindictive.
He's going after old enemies.
unidentified
He's weaponizing the FBI and the DOJ.
jillian michaels
The usual, the usual game, right?
It is weird, you know?
I don't know yet.
I guess we're going to find out if something happened, but that's the concern.
dave rubin
Well, as we sort of had a theme here, I mean, nobody pays a price for anything.
So Bolton will be fine.
jillian michaels
Exactly.
Right.
So that's kind of, that's kind of it there.
The FBI raided the home of blah, blah, blah, John Bolton.
Yeah, you got it.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
276.
Just in case you don't know that.
unidentified
Oh, here it is.
jillian michaels
Bolton claimed that nob Knight gave him verbal approval to publish the book even while a supplementary review was going on.
So I guess this is the woman who is in charge of these classifications.
dave rubin
Nothing's going to come out of this.
Nothing's going to come out of this.
jillian michaels
No, it's Nothing.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
This sucks.
This is sad and it's making really big news.
So an individual who I guess is allegedly transgender named Robin Westman shot and killed two kids and injured seventeen others at a Catholic school during a mass in Minneapolis.
Okay, now new evidence is emerging that this suspected shooter appeared to be psychotic.
Manic, twenty two year old.
22-year-old young man possibly trans who left an 11-minute manifesto video on YouTube just hours before the shooting.
The suspect wrote notes on the weapons he used, including Kill Trump now, McVeigh, Where is your God, Burn Israel, six million was not enough.
He had a human shaped target with Jesus' face attached to it.
Now this of course has begun crazy cultural wars over the transgender people.
Right, so that whole thing has begun.
And then simultaneously, you've got Frey.
Who take a look at this and then make your own opinion, okay?
We'll discuss it.
I don't even want to set it up yet.
Can you guys toss up that video of Frey for me, please?
jacob frey
Don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now.
These kids were literally praying.
It was the first week of school, they were in a church.
These are kids that should be learning with their friends.
They should be playing on the playground.
They should be able to go to school or church in peace without the fear or risk of violence and their parents should have the same kind of assurance.
jillian michaels
So it wasn't just him.
Newsom put out a tweet saying, quote, these children were literally praying as they got shot at.
Now, as I'm sure you can imagine, the Michael Knowles, the Charlie Kirks.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
This is an attack on prayer.
This is an attack on Christians.
This is evil.
I certainly don't understand why those comments were made.
dave rubin
Well, it was an attack on a Catholic school, is that correct?
unidentified
Yeah.
hunter biden
Yeah.
dave rubin
So, okay.
So there's some element of that.
But if you, but that's secondary to what likely was massive psychological distress or whatever you want to call it that this boy, I guess, oh no.
God he was a girl was like, how about we talk about psychological health and drugs and all of the others.
jillian michaels
Or getting security guards at the schools.
Because, you know, of course, it's going to be like, oh my God, the gun laws.
How about you put armed guards at the schools?
dave rubin
Right, which, you know, look, that's a slippery slope too, because then we just are, well, it's a slippery slope in that we then are like sort of training our children to just be around.
I'm more for that.
No, I know.
No, I know.
But without fully litigating that.
Like there is something about children having to then be around armed five-year-olds walking to schools and seeing, you know, in effect soldiers at the doors.
There's some conversation around that.
But this, it's all, all of these things always boil down to mental health and everything else.
The video that probably got me the craziest in like the last five years, do you remember that Texas Uvalde shooting where they, I mean, it's hard to remember any of these at this point, but somebody went in and shot like 17 year old, 17 kindergarteners, basically all elementary school kids.
And then Joy Reid went on TV that night and said, This is not a mental health issue, it's a gun issue.
And it's like, it's so crazy, that's a mental health issue to say that.
Because if you go in and kill innocent children, you obviously have a mental health issue.
You don't need a, you don't need a doctor to diagnose you at that.
So all of these things are much more than about mental health and likely prescription drugs.
And the other problem is that with the manifesto stuff and putting all that stuff about, it incentivizes people to put out crazy things, right?
It doesn't mean that he believed any of that stuff.
It just, you know, they put out, there's a game.
There's like a butterfly effect and a game that's being played.
I'm going to put up a YouTube video.
I'm going to write these crazy things.
All of that fits into the psychological screwiness of everything.
But I can see this probably has all of the cultural marking.
jillian michaels
It's like a broad attack on the trans community.
Which is counterproductive instead of it, like, okay, this guy's mentally.
unidentified
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Sane, right?
unidentified
And then it's like, oh, God, they're attacking.
jillian michaels
The Christianity is under assault, which I mean, honestly, it kind of is.
But I don't think that's what was happening here, but who knows?
Why say it?
Why not address the policy?
Why would you go after these kids were literally playing, what are you trying to say that prayer is an effect?
Like, I don't, it was, people were really, really, really, really stupid.
dave rubin
Right, people who don't believe in prayer, suddenly, like, making it about prayer is kind of gross.
jillian michaels
That's right.
unidentified
That didn't go over well, which is so bizarre.
dave rubin
It's mental health.
It's mental health.
jillian michaels
A hard right turn for you.
dave rubin
Okay.
Okay, you're running out of paper.
unidentified
If you had to guess, what are prayers?
jillian michaels
What object has been repeatedly thrown on a WNBA court?
dave rubin
Oh, dildo.
It's got to be a dildo.
karoline leavitt
I do know that.
dave rubin
Well, because a few days before I left, a green dildo.
And wait, a green dildo.
More dildos?
jillian michaels
Yeah, lots more dildos.
unidentified
I mean, we have three videos.
jillian michaels
Do we have three videos?
dave rubin
I want to see those.
jillian michaels
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
It's just a green dildo.
jillian michaels
Got a whistle away from the basketball.
unidentified
It's a green dildo again.
dave rubin
So there's something interesting about the green dildo.
Is this going to be a green dildo?
unidentified
I think there's a purple one.
Oh, that's green.
There's definitely a purple one in there.
dave rubin
She just kicked the crap out of that dildo.
jillian michaels
The title of the other dildo.
unidentified
This guy had three quick turnovers.
bill maher
Wait, that purple.
unidentified
Purple.
Purple.
dave rubin
Wow.
unidentified
Well, I've never seen those in neon colors.
I guess I'm, I don't Yeah, I usually thought it was like skin tones.
jillian michaels
But I, well, okay.
dave rubin
Now, follow the color of the rock.
jillian michaels
I do have a good video though.
I'd like to show you this one.
Okay.
unidentified
CNN anchor, CNN anchor led off of a segment.
jillian michaels
segment about a crackdown on dildos.
I feel like can we show that one?
unidentified
The WNBA is cracking down on dildos being thrown onto the court during games.
The sex toys have shown up six different times from Atlanta to LA, posing a risk to players.
It's ridiculous.
It's dumb.
It's corny.
It's stupid.
It's also dangerous.
And, you know, player safety's number one.
Respecting the game, all those things.
I think it's really stupid.
jillian michaels
So what is this?
Who's responsible for starting this trend?
unidentified
Apparently a crypto meme group, which calls them pranks, but those pranks have so far resulted in..
two arrests, and it raises the debate.
sandra smith
Is it a sexist stunt?
unidentified
Is it some sort of rite of passage that every league experiences something like this?
What is going on?
dave rubin
What is I've watched a lot of NBA games in my day.
I don't remember a dildo being thrown.
I don't know what she calls it.
Right is it a rite of passage?
jillian michaels
What?
unidentified
What?
dave rubin
Okay, but what is it?
Dildo is sexy.
jillian michaels
NYPD is on a man hunt for a WNBA dildo throwing suspect in a Bevis and butthead shirt.
Can't make this up.
I thought you'd enjoy that.
dave rubin
Well, but I love how the players have have to, someone's going to get hurt.
You know, like the dildo is going to take them out.
jillian michaels
Oh my God.
Okay, besides me, yes.
Somebody else has been branded as a racist.
dave rubin
So who?
Do I know them?
jillian michaels
You certainly do.
It's rarefied air.
unidentified
Yes.
jillian michaels
One guess, it's a girl.
dave rubin
It's a girl that I know that was called.
jillian michaels
Well, you would know of her for sure.
dave rubin
That I know of her, but I don't know.
jillian michaels
You definitely will, definitely.
dave rubin
You have to give me more than she's a girl.
Give me, give me some.
jillian michaels
She's a really pretty girl.
dave rubin
A very pretty girl that I met.
What about Riley Gaines?
jillian michaels
Sydney Add.
dave rubin
Oh, Sydney, well, she was, yeah, well, they were saying she was a racist.
jillian michaels
She's a racist?
dave rubin
Because she has babes or something.
jillian michaels
Well, no, no, it was her jeans ad, her American Eagles jeans ad.
Oh, you saw this ad.
unidentified
Yeah.
What?
jillian michaels
Okay, you know this whole thing?
dave rubin
Maybe they double Yeah, well, they did the ad.
unidentified
I got the jeans.
jillian michaels
I got good jeans.
dave rubin
I got jeans.
jillian michaels
He knew it was this one.
dave rubin
That was July.
That was July.
Someone's getting fired.
unidentified
Okay.
karoline leavitt
Yeah.
jillian michaels
So, uh, you didn't see the apology.
Oh, there was an apology.
Who apologized?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dave rubin
Oh, they did.
hunter biden
Oh, good.
dave rubin
They shouldn't have apologized.
jillian michaels
Oh, I was like, Oh, it's good.
unidentified
Did you apologize?
dave rubin
Yeah.
Okay.
jillian michaels
Nobody apologized.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
Trump applauded American Eagle and Sidney Sweeney, who is a registered Republican.
And then he bashed Bud Light and Jaguar.
Okay.
Here's his post right here.
dave rubin
Yeah.
jillian michaels
She's got the hotest ad out there.
Uh, okay.
Look at woke singer Taylor Swift, I don't really know.
dave rubin
It's interesting that he went after Bud Light still because, you know, they've really put a lot of money into UFC and other stuff to try to make up for what they've done.
So that's interesting.
jillian michaels
But okay.
Okay.
Well, then, in response to all this, just a quick sidebar, Taylor Swift is engaged to Travis Kelsey.
Yeah, that happened.
dave rubin
Oh, is that new?
I mean, I've been dating forever.
jillian michaels
I don't know.
unidentified
And if you wonder, they're engaged.
jillian michaels
Okay.
This is a thing.
Are you ready?
Cracker Barrel rebranded the logo.
then lost like a hundred gazillion billion bazillion dollars.
dave rubin
I'm trying the logo was like a, it was like a, oh, it was a barrel, right?
It used to be just a barrel.
jillian michaels
Yeah.
With a white guy named Uncle Herschel.
I couldn't quite figure this out.
I wasn't sure if Uncle Herschel was like a slave owner and that's why they did this.
In fact, there's no reference to slavery here whatsoever.
And the cracker barrel is because people would eat soda crackers around a porch that were packed in a barrel.
And Uncle Herschel is just, I guess, a fictional character.
Because it's nostalgic of the South with the guy on a porch.
So they rebranded the whole thing and then everyone was pissed and it tanked.
And then, yeah.
So, so, go, go, bro.
Crackle Barrel CEO Julie Fells Messina's decision to decolonize McCoy Barrel.
dave rubin
Okay, okay.
Don't worry about the rest of that.
The one thing I can say is, around 1996, I was driving up to I went to SUNY Binghamton and I stopped somewhere near Poughkeepsie, if I'm not mistaken, at a Cracker Barrel and I had the most delicious fully loaded baked potato I've ever had in my life.
They put salt and pepper on the outside of the potato., which I now do, and it's delicious.
jillian michaels
So, yeah, that was it was a mess.
That was like a bud like kind of a mess.
unidentified
But like, you get these like white women that just keep tanking these companies.
Like, remember they?
dave rubin
Right, they've never stepped foot into Cracker Barrel, but they get off the stage.
jillian michaels
They get these like, you know, Ivy League educated white liberals, and they just tank these companies one against another.
Like a Victoria's Secret.
dave rubin
They need a dildo.
That's the truth.
jillian michaels
I'm not going to disagree with you.
dave rubin
Like, get a dildo, ladies.
It's nice.
jillian michaels
God, I got a Cracker Barrel.
Okay, some interesting.
I wonder what you'll think about this.
unidentified
I'm optimistic.
After many years, Howard Stern is cancelled.
jillian michaels
His contract is not going to be renewed.
unidentified
Wow.
dave rubin
Wow.
That actually strikes me as the biggest news of the entire month in some weird way.
Um, wow.
jillian michaels
Isn't that weird?
I'm not surprised.
dave rubin
Uh, really?
Well, I mean, his, you know, because he's strong ideologically.
jillian michaels
Anti-Trump stuff.
dave rubin
Watching his descent into like woke madness and COVID stuff has been really disappointing.
You know, I'm from New York.
Like, I used to listen to him on 92.3 and I and I still remember him going to satellite.
and it was all about freedom and I read private parts in the movie Spectacular and fighting the system and WNBC and the whole thing.
Like his story is so great and he was fighting the power the whole time and then he became like such an avatar for the power and I had a show on Sirius XM and I always wanted to meet him so desperately and I used to have dreams all the time that I was on his show.
That was like the one thing when my first book came out that I requested from my press people was to get on Howard Stern.
It didn't happen.
That was the only thing that I asked for.
But then watching his, you know, all that stuff has been disappointing.
I guess at some point you just can't pay him anymore, right?
The guy has been making satellite radio., it doesn't really make sense.
I don't know if you've heard of the internet.
jillian michaels
I think that's part of it.
I think it's also a lot of the supposedly the Trump arrangement stuff has turned off a lot of his audience.
dave rubin
Yeah, I mean, his audience was edgy.
Oh, I loved him.
jillian michaels
I never liked him.
And you know what I remember about him?
dave rubin
You didn't like the crassness?
I like the fighting the power thing.
I loved fighting the executives and making fun of them all the time.
jillian michaels
You know what used to bother me?
dave rubin
It was like Letterman sort of.
jillian michaels
Here's the irony, by the way.
Some of the crazier stuff that Trump said about, you know, teenage Miss America and like walking into these rooms, I think he said that on Howard's Drum.
dave rubin
And Howard didn't release the audio of it.
You remember that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yes.
jillian michaels
And with that said, though, if you go back to super early Howard Stern, do you remember like a New Year special where he would have women?
dave rubin
Oh, he did insane things.
I mean, he would be in blackface auctioning people off.
unidentified
Yeah.
jillian michaels
I hated that.
unidentified
I hated it.
jillian michaels
I remember.
And it's like he'd take these girls who were super vulnerable and humiliate them for a boob job.
I never liked him.
dave rubin
Well, putting aside whether you like him or not, even putting like whether that doesn't even in some sense it's like the bigger story is that this guy who's been an icon.
jillian michaels
You're right.
You're right.
dave rubin
I'm just saying I don't like him.
jillian michaels
I'm not sorry.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
No, no, no.
unidentified
Trust me.
dave rubin
I haven't I haven't listened to him in twenty years.
jillian michaels
He turned into like some sort of a hero.
But I never forgot that stuff.
I was really young.
I remember and thinking like, this is so gross.
dave rubin
I remember he did some blackface thing with Sherman Helms.
jillian michaels
He was a good angel this guy.
Like, anyway.
dave rubin
I'll be okay.
unidentified
He'll be okay.
Okay.
jillian michaels
Charlie Kirk has been featured in South Park.
dave rubin
Oh, I think that I think that happened.
I think a clip leaked of that the day I left, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah.
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh my God.
What makes you think you have the right to say what I do with my body?
Let me ask you something.
If a pregnant woman is killed and the baby dies too.
dave rubin
The day I left.
jillian michaels
Okay.
This video.
Okay.
Greg Gottfel went on Jimmy Fallon.
dave rubin
Oh, so I think this must have happened right at the beginning of the month, right?
Because I think I had heard.
jillian michaels
August 7.
dave rubin
Okay.
So I think I heard it was going to happen, maybe something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
jillian michaels
Yeah, I kinda watched it.
dave rubin
I had to go.
Do we have anything or just it was awkward.
jillian michaels
I'll be honest, I thought it was awkward.
Greg was super sweet.
And he tells us this really long story about how he had met Jimmy Fallon before, and Jimmy was super drunk and like cursed a cigarette, then bought him a new cigarette, and then they went to another, but I don't know, it was awkward.
And Fallon had no memory of anything.
dave rubin
Uh huh.
jillian michaels
And now Fallon's like, ah, yeah.
unidentified
Huh?
Yeah.
Uh huh.
jillian michaels
It was just like, yeah.
dave rubin
Fallon's not like a person.
He's just an entertainer.
Where Greg's being a human.
Yeah.
jillian michaels
There was kind of a sweet moment in there where I guess Gutfeld says he goes to light a smoke.
And Fallon's like wasted and crumbles up his cigarette, which is something I would do.
And he's like, These will kill you.
And Gutsheld's like, I'm poor and you just crush my cigarette.
And I guess Fallon bought him a pack of cigarettes.
unidentified
Right, right.
jillian michaels
Gutsheld's like, You're trying to kill me.
Here's what I did like about that.
dave rubin
We're really at the end here.
jillian michaels
I know.
dave rubin
It's been a weird month.
I mean, yeah.
jillian michaels
But what I loved about that is I think the right and the left need to talk more.
So I loved that actually.
Because it doesn't engage.
dave rubin
Well, it's kind of like you going on CNN.
It's we need some arbitrage.
Like, as crazy as it is at some level, you need an arbitrage between old and new media.
And Gutsheld balances old and new really well.
jillian michaels
And then Well, but that was amicable.
It was definitely like, you know, in a textbook.
in an attempt to build good communication and bridge ideologies.
unidentified
And CNN wasn't quite that.
jillian michaels
August 9th, Disney, Lucasfilms is set to settle the Gina Cronel lawsuit and they signaled a desire to work with her again.
She was fired from The Mandalorian over posters comparing being a Republican to the US being a Jew during the Holocaust.
We have to stop making these Holocaust comparisons.
dave rubin
Yeah, I mean, I thought you said something about Disney and something I thought you were going to say something about, like they sold Star Wars, which would be amazing, but okay fine, move on.
Who cares?
jillian michaels
No.
If I could just throw out.
Why don't you just throw out, like maybe just not bring up the Holocaust?
Like that would be a mistake.
Okay, August 12, the UFC signs a $7.7 billion deal with Paramount to add UFC events to Paramount Plus streaming services in 2026, eliminating the pay per view model.
dave rubin
Interesting.
He built, he Dane has built that thing into just an absolute juggernaut.
It's not really my thing, but I think it's incredible what he's done.
jillian michaels
I'll see, I love it.
But, you know, I grew up in it.
Okay, moving swiftly onward.
More of the same here, no dildos, but 32 NFL teams will be stenciling a social justice message in their heads.
dave rubin
It's coming back.
Are you kidding me?
jillian michaels
No.
unidentified
Stop hate and choose love, Dave.
dave rubin
I mean, I'm shocked.
jillian michaels
Takes all of us.
dave rubin
For anyone that thought Woke was dead, I mean, it's just recalibrating in front of our eyes.
unidentified
I'm saying this.
jillian michaels
No one's listening.
dave rubin
That's utterly shocking.
It's the farthest thing from bed.
unidentified
It's like morphing into something new and improved.
dave rubin
They etch it into the end zone.
jillian michaels
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
jillian michaels
We've got a couple of male cheerleaders.
Louis Kahn.
unidentified
Wait, that's a male?
jillian michaels
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, it's a good day.
jillian michaels
good dancer.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
dave rubin
I can't move like that.
Who am I to do that?
unidentified
I'm exactly at my point.
Yeah.
dave rubin
I'm working with the trainer on opening my hips.
That's a big thing.
We're working on hips right now.
unidentified
Just for the future of my Basketball abilities.
Yeah.
dave rubin
Whatever.
jillian michaels
Weird woke society.
unidentified
Right.
I wouldn't think he was cute.
dave rubin
No, exactly.
unidentified
He was cute.
dave rubin
Exactly.
jillian michaels
You're exactly right.
Okay.
MSNBC is now rebranded as MS Now.
unidentified
And people don't love it because they think it means multiple cirrhosis now.
There's a 31 second video of Joe Starboy announcing this.
jillian michaels
Do you want to see it?
joe scarborough
We have breaking news as it pertains to our network.
This morning, a new name for the network.
By the end of the year, we will become MS Now, which stands for My Source for News, Opinion and the World.
And look, Andrew, they even have a graphic up.
I like it.
dave rubin
This is what you call this forgotten page.
joe scarborough
Actually, it's inversing.
jillian michaels
Yeah, this is their departure from NBC and legacy media.
dave rubin
Whatever.
unidentified
Nothing.
jillian michaels
Yeah, I love this.
This one I really liked, actually.
dave rubin
It's still television for morons, that thing.
Chris Pratt, okay.
jillian michaels
Chris Pratt went on Club Random, and I loved this.
Take a look.
chris pratt
In politics, you inherit enemies, and when you jump on, you know, the bandwagon with who is, you know, the most divisive president ever, it makes sense that you're going to be made to look terrible.
And so I don't know what to believe.
Because it's not like I sit with Bobby and I go, hey, let's talk about this.
Let's talk about it.
It's like we're just playing cards or playing mafia or having fun or having dinner.
I'm not going to pick his brain to find out exactly which of those things are true.
I just kind of assume that none of them are.
And for the most part, I wish him well, man.
I hope there's certain things that he oversees that seem to be supported in a bipartisan way, like getting terrible toxic stuff out of our kids' food.
I think that's a great thing.
And so like, if you just do that, that's amazing.
I'd hate to be so mired in hatred for the president that any success from his administration is something I'd have an allergic reaction to be like, Oh, well, if they do it, I don't want it to happen.
unidentified
I'll put Clorox in my children's cereal myself.
chris pratt
You know what I'm saying?
Come on, have some.
Be reasonable here.
There's certain things that would be a good thing to have.
unidentified
I want them all to be successful.
I guess this just whatever.
dave rubin
Yeah, but just like general crazy stuff.
You know, I would say it's basically what I kicked off.
First off, thank you for this.
This was wonderful.
I think you actually did the most kind of robust sort of blend of funny and also ridiculous and serious.
unidentified
Oh my god.
jillian michaels
We had to power through though.
There was very little room for humor.
I want to be clear.
dave rubin
No, you did.
jillian michaels
I'm not a stand-up comedian, Dave.
dave rubin
I do lunges wrong.
You did a bang up job.
And the abs, although they are not, they're hidden by the blouse, I'm sure, still tight.
Oh yeah.
I mean, we have a lot of stuff coming.
I don't want to tease too much, are you asking?
Are they telling me to tease something?
unidentified
I got the teaser.
dave rubin
I got the teaser.
There's some major stuff happening with the tequila, which will be for sale again next week, finally.
And we've dealt with some of the logistical issues around that.
So Copal, we're going to be really big on that for next year.
We have a couple of ideas that we're going to change.
We changed a few things with the set.
We have new chairs here, which are quite comfortable, by the way.
And a nice new table and a lot of paper on the floor.
We're expanding a couple of things.
We're working on a network situation that I've been talking about for quite some time and some other things.
There's a lot of good things happening and I'm glad.
I didn't know how, you know, the last thing that happened in this room at the end of July was I taped one last thing and I was sitting here with Connor and Joseph and we finished and then we all just sat here quietly for like 30 seconds and I said I said I don't know how I feel right now and Joseph goes It feels weird.
And that kind of caught it for me because it wasn't like I was like relieved, like I hate my job and now I'm so happy to escape.
It wasn't that.
It was like I was saying goodbye to my friends for a month and like I was going to enjoy myself, but I enjoy myself when I'm here.
And so this morning when I was coming back, I was like, how do I feel?
And I was like, it feels weird.
Because it's not that I wasn't happy to come back, but I also really enjoyed being off.
And anyway, I'm going to take all of that.
and all the lessons I learned for a month and all the stuff that you gave me right here.
I'll try to be better at what I do and see if the country can...
jillian michaels
And it has been an absolute pleasure doing this with you.
I apologize, but it's Phoenix's fault.
So.
dave rubin
You know, if we were a professional operation, someone would throw a dildo and we'd do this thing.
But instead, I'm just going to high five the assistant.
Thank you, Jillian.
Back tomorrow, everybody.
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