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July 24, 2025 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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Press Stunned by Tulsi Gabbard’s Scathing Remarks During Her Shock Announcement
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dave rubin
Hey doing everybody, I'm Dave Rubin.
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It is July 24th, 2025.
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You may have noticed that yesterday's show was not live because I was in DC for the all-in AI conference where President Trump spoke and J.D. Vance and a lot of industry leaders and crypto people and AI people and obviously the all-in guys and David Sachs and all that.
So I was there for that.
I was supposed to have breakfast at 8 a.m. with Tulsi Gabbard and it was canceled.
And I was like, Tulsi, what happened?
Turns out she was a little busy because Barack Obama's in a bit of trouble.
Tulsi laid it out yesterday afternoon.
Take a look.
tulsi gabbard
Today we've released a declassified oversight majority staff report that was produced in September of 2020.
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false.
They knew it would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help President Trump win, selling it to the American people as though it were true.
It wasn't.
The report that we released today shows in great detail how they carried this out.
They manufactured findings from shoddy sources.
They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims.
They disobeyed traditional tradecraft intelligence community standards and withheld the truth from the American people.
In doing so, they conspired to subvert the will of the American people who elected Donald Trump in that election in November of 2016.
They worked with their partners in the media to promote this lie, ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump and launching what would be a years-long coup against him and his administration.
We're here today because the American people deserve the truth, they deserve accountability, and they deserve justice.
dave rubin
All right, so Tulsi, if you're watching today, it's okay that you missed breakfast.
I can see you were otherwise busy.
All right, so there's a lot here.
First off, let me just say sort of something that I said.
It's a, I would say, a sidestep of what I said a couple weeks ago as it relates to Dan Bongino and when people are talking about people in the government and all of that.
Dan, who I know fairly well, who we did business because of Rumble and locals, Tulsi, I know extremely well.
I've interviewed her, I don't know, a dozen times, probably.
She's been to my house many times.
We've had dinner many times.
I know her only to be a thoughtful, wonderful human being who absolutely loves this country, who, as you guys know, is currently serving in the military.
I mean, right this moment, she's not, but even just months ago before she was sworn in as head of DNI, was doing military training, got involved in that because of 9-11.
She was a Democrat, right?
She was a moderate, not completely crazy progressive Democrat who ran in 26.
No, she ran in 2020 again.
Wait, she ran in 2020 or 2016?
In 2020, yeah.
She ran in 2020 as a Democrat, and the entire party turned on her and called her a Russian stooge.
We'll have more on that in just a moment.
But I preface everything that I'm going to analyze here with that, that I don't know what the truth is, again, any more than you do, but I do know that she is a good person.
And what she said there is quite, she chose her words, I would say, quite specifically.
Irrefutable evidence.
She didn't say we kind of think something's going on here, right?
Like a lot of the stuff that was thrown at Trump, it was Trump, Don Jr. had lunch with Russian on the Upper East Side, and blah, blah, blah.
And Trump this and Putin likes it.
Okay.
Irrefutable evidence.
That is coming from the head of national intelligence to create a narrative which basically would imply that Donald Trump was a Putin stooge, which of course the narrative really was to help Hillary Clinton.
I tweeted this out yesterday.
I think this captures just sort of how much things change and so quickly.
I tweeted that video that you just watched right there.
I said the Dems could have chosen Tulsi to be Biden's VP and she could have subsequently ended up being president right now.
Instead, she's got Obama in her sights.
So, think about how quickly things change.
Again, five years ago, this is a woman who was a Democrat congresswoman who was running for president.
She was the last one in when they all cut their deals.
When Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren and Bernie, when they all cut their deals to back Biden, which everyone knew there was something wrong with him, Tulsi was the last one who stayed in.
Tulsi was also, she also crushed, you remember that famous video, where she absolutely crushed Kamala Harris when it came to locking up people for minor weed offenses in California while also admitting that she has smoked weed and then a series of other times that she just banged up Kamala.
But the Democrats made their choice.
They took a man who they knew was mentally compromised and brought in someone that was polling at zero within their own party.
They could have brought Tulsi in.
Think how different everything would be right now.
Imagine if Biden would have had the years that he had, but Tulsi would have been around instead of Kamala.
So you would have, most people would have felt, oh, there's a decent person behind him.
And then if Biden had fully broken down the way that he did, imagine if they had put Tulsi up.
There really is a possibility she would be president right now.
But because of their, what would you say, their unending pursuit to go further to the abyss, they chose Kamala.
They booted her out of the party.
And of course, the rest is history.
Now, she had a map behind her, sort of a layout of the flowchart, basically, of what actually this Russia hoax was about.
I want to read some of the bullet points on that thing.
So we're going to show it to you, and I'll read the bullet points because it's a little complex, obviously.
So the real Intel assessment, Russia lacked the intent and capability to hack U.S. elections.
Putin had no preference for either candidate.
Donald Trump wins 2016 U.S. presidential election.
December 8th, 2016, POTUS briefing polled.
Intelligence community polls product that would contradict Russia hoax narratives.
Secret Russia meeting.
Obama officials meet to plan Russia hoax.
December 9th, 2016, Obama order.
Intelligence community is tasked with new assessment to claim the 2016 election was hacked.
Politicized intelligence.
Brennan ignored and suppressed intelligence that undermined the narrative.
Deep state leaks.
Obama officials use their media propaganda to spread fake news.
Fake weaponized assessment that claims Putin developed a clear preference for Trump and aspired to help his chances for victory.
This becomes the Russia hoax.
So, you know, one of the things that I talk about all the time here is that there's a way that the system launders the lies, right?
So a lie, wherever the lie starts, in this case, Tulsi's argument is the lie literally started with the Obama administration and the intelligence agencies to make it seem as if Donald Trump was Putin's choice and Putin somehow hacked our election, even though we're actually finding out the complete reverse of that was true.
But the question really is, okay, that exists.
But then how do they get the lies to be disseminated across the board?
And of course, we know that the New York Times, anonymous sources, experts tell us, like we've been through this with COVID and everything else.
So we're seeing how the lie is made, right?
We're seeing how the sausage is made.
Here is video of Barack Obama, who is now, again, being accused of intentionally doing this.
I mean, this is as close to treason as you can possibly get.
Here he is back in 2018, now pushing the Russia hooks.
barack obama
They're undermining our alliances?
Closing up to Russia?
What happened to the Republican Party?
It's a central organizing principle in foreign policy.
It was the fight against communism.
And now they're closing up to the former head of the KGB.
It should not be Democratic or Republican.
It should not be a partisan issue to say that we do not pressure the Attorney General or the FBI to use the criminal justice system as a cudgel to punish our political opponents.
dave rubin
Except, Barack, that apparently is exactly what you were doing.
So everything they accuse Donald Trump of doing is actually what they were doing.
And now Tulsi is starting to show the receipts.
Now, not only is she showing the receipts, but they're also taking hard questions at the White House.
So yesterday, CNN's Caitlin Collins started going after Tulsi and her intentions by using a comment that Marco Rubio, now Secretary of State, who used to be anti-Trump, Marco Rubio, made when he was a senator as it pertained to the Russian hoax.
And Caroline Levitt's up there with Tulsi Takelov.
kaitlan collins
Including the acting chair of the time, now Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who said in a statement that they did not find any evidence of Russian collusion, but they did find, however, is very troubling and they found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling.
One, are you saying that he's wrong in that statement that he made then?
And secondly, what would you say to people who believe that you're only releasing these documents now to improve your standing with the president after he said that your intelligence assessments were wrong?
karoline leavitt
I'll speak to both questions.
First, on Secretary Rubio, he put out a statement in 2020 following that Senate Intelligence Committee report, and he said what they found is troubling.
We found irrefutable evidence of Russia meddling, which the Director of National Intelligence just confirmed for all of you that Russia was trying to sow distrust and chaos.
But what's the outrage in this that Secretary Rubio did not say at the time, the Democrats were saying at the time, is the fact that the intelligence community was concocting this narrative that the president colluded with the Russians, that the president's son was holding secret meetings with the Russians.
All of these lies that were never true.
And he also said at that time, we discovered deeply troubling actions taken by the FBI under Comey, particularly their acceptance and willingness to rely on the steel dossier without verifying its methodology or sourcing.
dave rubin
Man, Caroline Levitt is just fantastic.
Did you get the clarity that she answered that with?
So you basically have Caitlin Collins from CNN saying, oh, well, Marco Rubio said back then that there was something troubling here.
And she's like, yeah, there was something troubling here, but he didn't know all of the evidence.
And now we have evidence that there was a plan concocted, except it was Obama.
So great answer right there.
I also like how Caitlin Collins says, what would you say about, because people are saying that Tulsi is just trying to get back in good standing.
First off, to impugn her motives like that, like there is no one in government that deserves their motives impugned less than Tulsi Gabbard.
Again, do you have any?
Have you ever seen a clip of Tulsi Gabbard flat out lying or being caught in some like crazy thing or anything like that?
Like, just absolutely no.
And also, what would you say about people who say that?
You mean you said it.
You mean you said it, lady, right?
Like, why don't you say, I believe this, and that's why I'm saying it, okay?
Like, these games don't work on us anymore.
But then let's get to the answer to that question.
Did Tulsi do this to improve her standing with Donald Trump?
karoline leavitt
As for your second question, Caitlin, I think, who is saying that, that she would release this to try to boost her standing with the president?
Who has said that?
kaitlan collins
Well, the president has publicly undermined her when it came to Iran.
He said she was wrong.
He told me that she didn't know what she was talking about.
That was on Air Force One on camera.
karoline leavitt
The only people who are suggesting that the Director of National Intelligence would release evidence to try to boost her standing with the president are the people in this room who constantly try to sow distrust and chaos amongst the president's cabinet.
And it is not working.
I will just answer your question directly.
I am with the president of the United States every day.
He has the utmost confidence in Director Gabbard.
He always has.
He continues to.
And that is true of his entire cabinet, who is all working as one team to deliver on the promises this president made.
dave rubin
You know, Kaelin, you are not a good journalist.
You are not a good journalist.
You're obviously an activist, and I get it.
You work at CNN, so like nobody's really listening other than you offer us some sound bites.
But when there was that little tension between Tulsi and Trump during the Iran thing just a couple weeks ago, it was because people had selectively edited video of her testifying about Iran's nuclear weapons where they showed, I think, 18 seconds of it.
We played it here, where they showed about 18 seconds where she was like, Iran's not looking for a bomb.
And then they cut it there.
And then the next sentence was, but they've escalated it.
And now they are, blah, blah.
And then Trump was confronted with that and basically was like, that's not true.
So just everything you people say is a lie.
But also, just really think about it.
Like the gall of her to be like, Tulsi just came with receipts, right?
She said irrefutable evidence that she has receipts.
They're going through emails right now.
They're going through all of this stuff.
Will anything come of it?
I don't know.
It is very likely that nothing.
What I always say it, like nobody pays the price.
We never see anyone hauled away or anything else.
I don't know what will happen here.
But that on day one of this, you're impugning Tulsi Gabbard's motives is completely, completely and utterly insane.
And you would never do it.
Not would never do it.
You never did it when you thought it was the other way around.
Did you?
Did you?
Here's a little bit more from Tulsi talking about how Putin was withholding.
Well, take a look.
I don't want to lead too much.
tulsi gabbard
In the January 2017 intelligence community assessment that President Obama ordered, John Brennan, who was CIA director at the time and the intelligence community intentionally suppressed intelligence that showed Putin was saving the most damaging material that he had in his possession about Hillary Clinton until after her potential and likely victory.
The report goes into great detail about the information that Russia and Putin had on Hillary Clinton, which included possible criminal acts, like secret meetings with multiple named U.S. religious organizations in which State Department officials offered, in exchange for supporting Secretary Clinton's campaign for the presidency, significant increases in financing from the State Department.
There were high-level DNC emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's, quote, psycho-emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness, and that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on a daily regimen of heavy tranquilizers.
dave rubin
Okay, again, she's talking about emails that they have.
That's rather interesting.
Let's put aside that maybe she had some meetings with people where there was some quid pro-quo stuff.
Okay, politics, everybody does some shady stuff.
But the idea there that Putin was holding off on releasing the real scary stuff about Hillary's condition and that she had some serious psychological problems, which we kind of knew a little bit about.
There was some evidence.
unidentified
Do we have any video of the evidence?
tulsi gabbard
Vice President Warren.
unidentified
Can you talk about vice presidential possibilities with Senator Warren?
hillary clinton
You guys have got to try the cold chai.
unidentified
I've had it.
hillary clinton
It is delicious, isn't it?
dave rubin
Okay.
I don't think there's anything wrong with her.
I mean, I want to throw back to that video for just a second.
Look, everyone can act a little weird every now and again, but something about the jerkiness.
But watch Hillary, watch not Hillary here.
You can watch her head bobbling.
Okay, the girl who's asking her the questions with the nail polish there.
Watch her face as Hillary wigs out.
unidentified
Did you talk about Vice presidential possibilities for Senator Warren?
dave rubin
You guys have.
She's like, what the fuck is going on?
Yeah, like somebody knew.
And then, of course, we're not even playing it today.
You remember this from years ago.
It's nine years ago already.
It's hard to believe.
But when Hillary, literally in New York City, passed out right in front of they were putting her into the escalade and she passed out and they had to drag her lifeless body into it.
Now, here's where it gets really interesting, because years ago, they were repeatedly, it was Hillary and several other Democrats were implying that it wasn't just Donald Trump who had Russian ties and it wasn't just Donald Trump Jr. who dare had lunch with a Russian businessman on the Upper East Side in 2015.
It was that Tulsi herself actually had Russian ties.
hillary clinton
I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate.
She's a favorite of the Russians.
They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far.
And that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not because she's also a Russian anthropologist.
dave rubin
All right.
That is quite a statement that Hillary made.
She's talking about Tulsi there.
Everyone knows she's talking about Tulsi.
She repeated that claim several times, I think even once on The View.
What do you think about this now?
Like, she kind of knew she did.
Where does it feel like at the moment?
Feelings don't matter, But what does it feel like at the moment?
Why were they going after Tulsi years ago?
Because it was just another way of going after someone who wouldn't play the game of the Democrats.
The Democrats have been doing the shell game.
The Democrats have been concocting all of this nonsense.
It's a freaking miracle, absolute miracle that Donald Trump is president right now.
After the not only did we know the machine threw everything in that it possibly could and the media and the lies and all of this stuff, but now we basically know that the intelligence agencies were absolutely at the direction of Barack Obama were trying to stop Donald Trump from being president.
Like, it's pretty intense.
Here's how CNN's covering it.
keith boykin
You're trying to avoid the subject.
scott jennings
President Obama said that Russia did not manipulate events.
keith boykin
We should note that.
unidentified
Because every liberal in America said that was the case.
keith boykin
You're doing everything you possibly have not to talk about the fact that the president of the United States, the current president of the United States, just accused a former president of treason and suggested a prosecution of that former president with no evidence.
That is the problem.
scott jennings
You can call him Treason.
keith boykin
No, I'm not going to call him.
scott jennings
I don't think anyone is going to be able to do it.
keith boykin
But why don't you talk about that instead of talking about Obama?
unidentified
Because Obama just unprovened three years of Democrat mythology.
What?
keith boykin
Please let's not talk about this.
I don't want to talk about your distractions.
The problem is, this is what Trump does.
He distracts everybody.
jeff zeleny
We have no idea.
I mean, this is hardly information that we should even be repeating.
Never mind that it's, you know, some years after the fact, eight years more than that after the fact, but also just to look at the source.
But look, this is what this White House wants to talk about.
And I'm not sure that we should spend that much more time on it, frankly.
dave rubin
Guys, they're running the same script on us right now.
And if you've been paying attention, you should see it and know it.
What script is that?
Come on, come on.
It's the Hunter-Biden laptop script.
We shouldn't be talking about this.
There's no evidence of this.
Well, in that you guys lie about everything.
If you tell me not to look at something, I'm probably going to go ahead and look at it.
And Keith Boykin, former Obama staffer, there is evidence.
Can you put up the flowchart again?
So look, the argument here is that none of this is true.
Tulsi is saying she has the evidence this is true, which is why they put this together.
And we will see if this is true or if there is evidence or anything else.
But the idea that CNN on day one of this story breaking is already like, well, it happened a long time ago and we don't even know if we should cover it.
That kind of, yeah, we're not going to fall for that one again.
Over on the view, Whoopi Goldberg was defending Obama and saying that he should have immunity, which makes you think he probably is guilty of something.
Take a look.
whoopi goldberg
Didn't the Supreme Court under the guidance of this president say that presidents have immunity?
So that would mean that nothing Obama did, because you didn't say no, that only you have immunity, you said presidents.
So this means you have no right to try to take him to court because he did what he did as president.
So how does that work?
Is it only you who is clear or are they all clear?
In which case, President Biden might be, you know, kicking some new stuff up to you too.
Because if you say nobody has immunity or everybody, you have to decide which way you're going to.
dave rubin
Stop smoking the dreadlocks, lady.
Let me explain this to you.
The argument that the Trump administration made to the Supreme Court was that president, basically, I'm going to give you like the kind of bumper sticker version of it, was basically that if a president does something by the very act of it, it basically means it's legal.
We don't have to get into whether you agree with that or not.
But you might be right in some sense, Whoopi, that because the Supreme Court basically agreed with that, Obama probably will not be thrown away in jail or anything else.
But that doesn't mean we can't look into and expose the corruption, right?
I am not going to sit here with the hysterics of every time, you know, it's like it's like the Epstein thing and everything else.
Every time some hysterical thing comes out, then there's going to be a million people in my position that are going to tell you, this is the one, this is the thing, it's all going to change now, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I've been in this game for far too long.
Maybe it's because I'm about to roll into August.
I'm like seeing it pretty clearly right now.
I am not telling you that anything crazy is going to happen here, that they're going to jail Brennan or they're going to jail Obama or anything else, but exposing all of it, showing that it actually happened is important.
Your knee-jerk response, which is automatically to defend Obama, doesn't it bother you?
Put aside partisanship for just a second.
If I found out that Donald Trump was ordering the intelligence agencies to try to stop his next opponent, or if he has to step away, whoever's going to be after him, or whatever it might be, I would be enraged by that.
And you should be enraged by that.
What would be worse?
What could possibly be worse than a sitting?
Well, I guess if you had a president who wasn't a president and it was just a president by Autopen, that could be worse.
But let's just say it would be pretty bad if a president was using the intelligence agencies to destroy his opposition.
Then all of this would be fake and that would be a problem.
And unfortunately, we don't have a mainstream media that helps us in these situations.
Often they just pour the bullshit on top of us.
And then we ask for more bullshit.
Here is a compilation of the mainstream media spewing the Russia hoax.
unidentified
Russia hacking the election to elect Trump is the end of our democracy.
dave rubin
Every votes were definitely affected.
Russia hacked the election to tilt it to Mr. Trump.
unidentified
The Russians definitively hacked the election.
Russia did hack the election.
No doubt.
The Russians hacked the election.
dave rubin
Yes, Russia hacked the election.
unidentified
In fact, Russia hacked the election.
President-elect Donald Trump still not sounding convinced that Russia hacked the election.
The president does not want to come to terms with the fact that the Russians hacked the election.
President Trump says he still wonders if, if the Russians hacked the election.
If you can get him to accept that Russia hacked the election, see if you can get him to accept who won the civil war.
If he admits it, it casts a shadow on his victory over Hillary Clinton.
dave rubin
Russia hacked the election.
scott jennings
Russia hacked the election.
dave rubin
Let's be clear, Russia hacked the election definitively russia hacked the election and russia is doing it again now so all of you people are liars or fraudsters or just not good at your job and should be embarrassed utterly embarrassed not only was that not true that donald trump did not that the russians did not hack the election for donald trump we now have evidence of the complete reverse and then that guy jeff on
unidentified
CNN.
dave rubin
Well, I don't even know that we should be talking about this.
And the reason they don't want us to be talking about it is because it would all point back to stuff like that, that they were part of it.
They were the ones, there's the lie, and then there's the laundering of the lie and the way we react to the lie.
But fortunately, at least for the moment, we have at least a semi-free, I would say, internet, and we're able to talk about these things and tune these people out.
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again, I think is the most decent human being possible to be in that position.
Someone who I have no reason not to trust, and we will see what happens.
But again, you're going to watch an awful lot of people that are going to be like, this is it.
They're going to hang Obama.
I don't know what's going to happen, but there's something going on here.
And I do sense this is a little bit different than before because we have serious people in charge.
Speaking of serious people in charge, we're actually fixing things via these serious people.
Listen to this truth from Donald Trump.
I am pleased to announce that the Trump administration has reached a historic agreement with Columbia University.
Columbia has agreed to pay a penalty of $200 million to the United States government for violating federal law, in addition to over $20 million to their Jewish employees who were unlawfully targeted and harassed.
Columbia has also committed to ending their ridiculous DEI policies, admitting students based only on merit and protecting the civil liberties of their students on campus.
Numerous other higher education institutions that have hurt so many and been so unfair and unjust and have wrongfully spent federal money, much of it from our government, are upcoming.
It's a great honor to have been involved, and I want to thank and congratulate Secretary Linda McMahon and all those who worked with us on this important deal.
I also want to thank and commend Columbia University for agreeing to do what is right.
I look forward to watching them have a great future in our country, maybe greater than ever before.
Well, I hate to tell you, Don, it's not going to be greater than ever before.
I suspect that they will find other ways to launder the lies of DEI through the system, and the rot there is so deep that you'd have to fire so many administrators and so many professors.
What are you going to do about all the professors that are brainwashing all of these kids and all of those things?
But that being said, a penalty of 200 million bucks, a penalty of 20 million bucks to the students and teachers who were kicked off campus unjustly and all that, like it's something.
So I don't want to overplay it, but it absolutely is something.
Can they fundamentally change what that university has become, or do they just pay it?
You know, all these universities, they're running these crazy endowments.
I mean, we always talk about it.
Harvard's got like a 54 billion with a B dollar endowment.
They're basically giant hedge funds.
So while $200 million sounds like a lot of money, and that is nice, and maybe there will be some sort of change, like sort of the patina of the thing will change.
So on the outside, it will change.
The question is, does it change on the inside?
We shall see.
You know, I bumped into Scott Jennings yesterday for the first time.
We have never met, we've never communicated other than I talk about him on the show.
But yesterday in DC, we bumped into each other.
He is going to do the show.
I'm not sure it's going to happen before I go off the grid.
But he was wearing this very same blue jacket because this was later in the day.
He went on CNN and he explained what happened here with the Columbia situation.
unidentified
Did they discriminate against Jewish kids or not?
keith boykin
Let me just finish.
unidentified
You talk about people.
keith boykin
You don't want to say it.
scott jennings
They systematically discriminated against the Jews.
keith boykin
No, no.
scott jennings
You don't pay $200 million to just, quote, make something go away.
You pay $200 million because you know you got caught red-handed systematically discriminating against Jewish students.
That's why you pay.
That's why you change your policies.
If elections have consequences, if Trump had not won, they would still be doing it today.
Thank God he pushed back on them.
caroline downey
I'm going to say extortion under your breath.
And it made me think.
Do you know what extortion is?
It's when student activists take a building on campus hostage and then they blackmail the administration and say, if you do not divest from Israel, we will lay siege to another building.
That's extortion.
And by the way, it's beyond anti-Semitism.
unidentified
Well, Scott is right in that these universities needed to change.
Obviously, there was anti-Semitism going on in a big way.
They needed to change.
keith boykin
I think a lot of those changes have been made gratefully.
dave rubin
My, Connor, we may have to edit Scott and the Retards bumper because, my God, that Caroline chick.
you're right former senator jeff blake yeah you're right and boykin the obama guy you know it's he of course is not right and refuses to say what we all know that of course they were discriminating against jewish students we played the videos where they literally wouldn't let jewish students and professors onto campus by the way they are involved in a lawsuit where they literally these pro-Palestinian Hamas lunatics literally trapped two Hispanic janitors in a building and would not let them out I don't know if that's been resolved yet but they took over the campus they vandalized things,
all of the stuff.
We know they did all the stuff, but that's to the side of the fact that putting aside all of that, that they've been discriminating against Jewish students and white students and particularly Asian students as it comes to admissions.
It's not just Harvard that has been doing it.
And of course, Scott is right.
Had the Trump administration, thank God Donald Trump won because Donald Trump winning got this conversation around because the culture changed and suddenly people are like, we're going to push back on this nonsense.
And speaking of this nonsense, it's not just getting the jihadis a little bit out of our universities, which would be nice.
It's also confirming that boys have penises and girls have vaginas.
It's very exciting.
This from Eric Daughtry breaking the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee will now ban transgenders from competing against women, caving to the Trump administration.
Wow, what a victory for women's sports.
Guys, again, obvious stuff.
Don't discriminate against Jews, Asians, whites, or anyone else when you're going to college.
And by the way, don't let dudes with wangs swim with chicks.
We've got some more interesting things here as it pertains to dudes with wangs who want to swim with chicks.
This from Libs of TikTok.
Just in, more than 24 state attorney generals signed on to a letter urging the NCAA to strip trans athletes of their records and titles.
The letter called for NCAA President Charlie Barker to strip males who competed on female teams of awards and give them to real women who earned those awards.
That's absolutely fantastic.
By the way, we've done that here in Florida.
DeSantis already signed that and has done that.
If you did not see my episode last Friday, we did about an hour on this with Riley Gaines, who, of course, is the incredible record-setting female swimmer who was subjected to swimming against a man.
And DeSantis reversed some of those awards when he beat her.
And she's just absolutely, absolutely wonderful.
And now let's shift.
So what are we talking about?
We have some wins.
This is a win show, right?
So we got some wins as it pertains to Russia, Russia.
We're going to find out something.
Does it end with Obama in jail?
Probably not.
But there's something going on.
Like we're unfurling the lies that we've been stuck in for so long.
Now we have some wins as it pertains to Columbia and the universities.
Again, does it solve everything?
Does it fix all the rot?
Probably not, but it's something, right?
Then we have some wins as it pertains to boys and girls athletics.
Does it solve everything?
That one gets closer to it, I think, but you know, we'll see where that one ends up.
And now how about a really big win?
And this is where I was yesterday.
So I was in D.C. just for the day to go to the all-in podcast AI conference.
It was a really wonderful day, about eight hours of industry leaders getting up there and talking about everything.
It was interesting.
I kept thinking, man, so many of these topics are what we're talking about on the show as it pertains to illegal immigration and the amount of people that are working here with jobs that are going to be replaced, but then also the people who are here legally whose jobs will be replaced by AI, the energy that it is going to take, the competition that we're dealing with with China, what's going to go on with Taiwan where we get many of the chips in the first place.
It was really, really interesting day.
Anyway, J.D. Vance spoke, President Trump spoke.
Here's a bit of Trump talking about how America is going to win the AI race because we have to win the AI race.
donald j trump
Whether we like it or not, we're suddenly engaged in a fast-paced competition to build and define this groundbreaking technology that will determine so much about the future of civilization itself because of the genius and creativity of Silicon Valley.
And it is incredible, incredible genius.
Without question, the most brilliant place anywhere on earth.
America is the country that started the AI race.
And as President of the United States, I'm here today to declare that America is going to win it.
We're going to work hard.
We're going to win it.
dave rubin
You know, interestingly, one of the themes, Trump spoke at the end of it, obviously, but one of the themes of the entire conference yesterday was how different the approach to AI is now than it was under the Obama administration.
That right now, Trump is basically getting rid of red tape.
He also realizes it is a real issue.
Like we have to win the battle for AI because this is the thing.
This is the Skynet is turning on.
This is the matrix.
This is the moment of every sci-fi movie where there is a technology out there that whether you like it or not is coming.
The amount of information that these computers are going to be able to put out and then proliferate throughout the world and then put into the minds of the robots and all of these things, like there are so many things to think about here.
And this next, so Trump is basically saying we got to win this, we can think.
Like it's not a choice.
Like this is, it's more than the next space race.
We have to win this or in some sense we will be digitally enslaved, likely to China.
Here's Trump signing an executive order banning woke AI.
Now, will there be woke AI?
Are there going to be programmers just like all the algorithms right now that are infected with these things?
So, you know, you go into YouTube and you search one thing and it shows you the reverse things and it can make you angry and X is a complete mess with the algorithm and the bore you that they show you and all these things.
Yes, all of that can be in there because there can be humans that manipulate it.
But Trump here is signing an executive order that will ban woke AI, meaning that the AI models that the government is going to work with, that the government is going to help promote, that the government is going to help perhaps fund, they're going to have to use AI models that are ideologically neutral.
will scharf
And lastly, sir, as you said in your speech, we don't want woke AI.
We want AI models based on accurate information that give accurate information and accurate answers.
This executive order will ensure that when the federal government procures or promotes different AI models, that those AI models are ideologically neutral, that they don't embrace wokeism and critical race theory and all of these terrible theories that have done so much damage to our country.
dave rubin
Yeah, like that sounds like low-hanging fruit, but I don't think it is exactly.
There's a million AI models out there, and there's going to be all sorts of big companies and little companies that are going to try to get in and somehow affect all of your devices and what you see and when you see and the information you learn and all of the stuff and plenty of stuff that we cannot even think about at the moment.
But as he said, the government, you're not going to be able to stop woke AI, right?
There are going to be people who program woke AI and not just woke AI, just Completely dishonest modeling and manipulative modeling and propaganda and all that stuff.
That's going to happen, obviously.
But what he's talking about is the people that are going to work with the federal government on this, that the federal government will not work with woke AI companies that procure or promote this nonsense.
And that is good.
You know, I have to say, I was unbelievably impressed.
JD Bance, I always say it, he keeps getting like a pass here because, you know, Rubio has been so great and he's out there all the time.
And Caroline Levitt particularly, she's really out there all the time.
We just talked a little bit about Tulsi.
Like we do the Bobby Kennedy stuff all the time.
JD, in a weird sense, has been overshadowed, I would say.
And he spoke for, I don't know, it was about 45 minutes yesterday.
And it was very clear he was not given questions in advance or anything.
I was really, really impressed with how deep his knowledge was on the AI front.
And here he is talking about how we are going to deal with this as it pertains to the Chinese and how different the Trump administration is going to be than the Biden administration was.
jd vance
You know, sometimes when you build with Chinese firms or Chinese technology, it seems like a pretty good deal, right?
Larry Summers once had this famous quote that, you know, in Africa, when developing countries talk to the United States and talk to China, the Americans show up with a moral lecture and the Chinese show up with a bag of money.
Well, you know, the bag of money, obviously, I prefer that to the moral lecture, but you realize that bag of money sometimes comes with debt servitude.
It sometimes comes with a sort of neo-colonial control of the host country.
What a lot of nations are realizing is they're not just showing up with a bag of money, and we'd much rather be on Team America, but it does require much more forward leadership.
And the Biden administration, I don't know what it was, but there was just this deep-seated fear of the future.
I'm sure it was motivated by having a president who didn't necessarily know where he was from day to day, but there was a lot of people who were kids.
Easy on the L Derby.
dave rubin
It's over.
unidentified
You won, JD.
You won.
jd vance
We still get to have a little fun with people, no.
It's okay.
But there was just this really weird fear of the future that I think is totally absent in the Trump administration.
dave rubin
You know, it's so interesting that he described it.
There was a weird fear of the future in the administration.
Now, the joke about Biden's mental cognitive, whatever, okay, that's fine.
But you might think that they weren't really thinking about the future because they were constantly managing a completely fake facade around everything that the administration was doing.
Almost everything that the past administration did was counter to American interests.
So perhaps they did not have time to really think about these things, right?
They didn't really have forward-thinking people who wanted to really figure out how to blaze the incredible trail to the future and literally to the stars that Elon talks about because they were managing, oh my God, the guy in charge is actually an autopen and he's drooling and pooping in his pants.
Like there's probably some truth to some of that.
I also think what JD said about if you want to be on Team America, that the old way we would go to countries and give them moral lectures.
So the Chinese just came in and poured cash on them.
But now the new idea is be on Team America.
And that's completely consistent with the speech that Trump gave in Saudi Arabia a couple months ago.
Remember?
He said, we are not here to tell you how to live.
We know you're going to be different than us and blah, blah, blah.
But if you want to be on Team America, there are going to be some basic things that we expect out of you.
There are basic values that we have.
And if you can sort of get on board those, stop trying to kill these people, stop this ancient hatred, blah, blah, blah, then you can be on Team America.
That's a fundamentally different way of doing things than we've done for absolutely for decades.
Listen to this.
This is NVIDIA, and they're obviously the largest chip maker out there, probably the most important company right now as it pertains to making the physical stuff that is going to power the AI revolution.
Here's NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang talking about how America's unique advantage, it's a certain orange man.
unidentified
As a CEO of a global company, what do you see are America's unique advantages that other countries don't have?
jensen huang
America's unique advantage that no country could possibly have is President Trump.
And let me explain why.
One, on the first day of his administration, he realized the importance of AI and he realized the importance of energy.
For the last, I don't know how many years, energy production was vilified, if you guys remember.
We can't create new industries without energy.
dave rubin
Yeah, we need energy.
We can't just get off fossil fuels just like that.
You can't just say, I'm for Green New Deal, thus Green New Deal, good.
Doesn't mean it's good.
You're going to freeze an awful lot of people in cold winters in Europe.
So what Wang is talking about there basically is, oh, you have a guy who understands industries, who understands the way the world works.
It's not just some ideological, we must go green because the world's going to end in 12 years, even though Barack Obama lives on an oceanfront mansion in Martha's Vineyard in AOC.
Well, it's six years later and she's still doing okay, right?
Like these are people who are serious about things.
And I think that that really does show you that things have changed fundamentally and very, very quickly.
And we shouldn't forget it.
Guys, let's talk about V-Shred for a moment and then we'll have some community questions on the other side.
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and for those of you in the miami area our meetup is tonight 5 to 7 p.m the tequila is on me you can find out more information if you are a subscriber on locals uh eurasian says do you think going after obama will turn moderate blacks away from trump that is an interesting question so let's say for a moment that there is some serious evidence here and again i personally have no reason to doubt tulsi gabbard i don't just take her word for it but let's say she really we just uncover a whole bunch more and
Obama really turns out to be guilty here, hands covered in this mess and everything else.
Does the, regardless of whether he's guilty or not, does the nature of going after him push a certain set of people, in this case, you're asking about black people, away from the Republicans?
The answer to that is probably yes, right?
Like the human answer, because not everybody operates on, is this right or wrong?
Or is this truly good or bad or something like that?
Everyone operates on some, like you have some kind of construct that you're operating through.
And if, let's say you were a moderate black person and you've been coming along, you finally, you know, you're walking away from the Democrat plantation, blah, blah, blah.
And you've come around to a lot of this stuff, but you feel that, my God, they're going after the one black president.
And although it's kind of dirty, you just inherently don't like that.
Could you be pushed back the other way?
Like the obvious answer is that is gonna happen to some people.
Now, is it possible the counter of that happens where an awful lot of people who liked Obama are suddenly like, you know, after all of these years, something has felt kind of weird.
And, you know, the day before the election when he did the very fine people thing, and we know that was a hoax, so maybe the guy really is a liar.
And why did he get the Nobel Peace Prize before he ever actually did anything, even though Donald Trump brought much more peace to the world and blah, blah, blah.
Like you could get both versions of it, but to your specific question, the answer unfortunately probably is yes.
I don't know if you know this, but in politics, not everybody does, not everybody votes and sort of fundamentally follows like the most honest principles all the time.
Gail says, would you consider doing a 101 show addressing crypto and or AI?
For instance, how to buy and use crypto in the best use of AI in our changing world and economy?
Thanks.
Yes, absolutely.
We discussed that yesterday, actually.
I met several people, you know, a zillion people are coming up to me and saying hi and telling me about their AI companies and crypto stuff.
And the guy I sat next to on the plane who was a fan of the show, Rodrigo, if you're watching, who's doing a really cool crypto thing out here in Miami, and we're gonna see if we can connect on that.
Like there's just a lot of stuff going on.
And yes, we should do more on that.
I am definitely, I don't profess to be an expert when it comes to Bitcoin or crypto in general.
I like the idea of decentralized payments.
You know, people aren't really using Bitcoin as a payment system.
It's more of a storage of value.
But there are some other cryptos that are a little bit more peer-to-peer payments, but we should be doing more on that.
Rumble's coming out with a wallet, by the way.
So a lot of the ways that people will pay creators will eventually shift over to the digital side, which was something we were working on with locals literally like eight years ago, and it was just too early in when we were trying to figure out the tech on that.
And then of course, yes, I wanna do way more on AI.
Look, the Tesla robot, the Optimus robot, supposedly is coming out at the end of the year.
That's what Elon has said.
We're gonna start seeing robots.
You're gonna start seeing waiter robots.
You're gonna start seeing robots in houses as housekeepers and all sorts of stuff.
So we better get on board this stuff.
You can, I'm a sci-fi guy, as you know, I'm all on board all the dystopian ways this stuff can go haywire, but it's coming whether you like it or not, right?
So we can either be ahead of it and understand it and figure out how to integrate it into our lives, or you can just let the world continue.
And sure, yes, some of us will be completely off the grid.
I'm sympathetic to that.
And you're gonna live in the middle of Montana and have no robots near you anyway, but eventually the robot war may come to you.
That was rather depressing.
Anyway, Tin Man UFO says, Dave, have you considered being one of the speakers at TPUSA's annual AmericaFest conference, which is in December in Phoenix?
Among other things, it might provide an opportunity for the Rubin Report folks in Western part of the country to have a meetup that's easier for them to travel to.
Thanks.
You know, I used to do a ton of stuff with Turning Point.
I don't really anymore.
I'm not opposed to it.
I'll ping Charlie and see if maybe I can get over there for that.
In general, I've been trying, even though it's gotten difficult, I've been trying to do just a little less traveling in general.
My schedule is so busy.
I'm running several operations now and, you know, I want to be around for the kids and I do have, we're doing Australia in the fall.
It sounds like we're probably going to South Africa as well.
So I'm trying to do like a little bit less in general, but let me see about that one.
Cause I do, look, we usually, we've been doing now our annual meetup in Miami, but I know that not everyone's here and it's also tough to get people to Miami at the end of July.
So noted, I hear you, we'll see.
Elizabeth says, if you had to become an animal for a day, what animal would you pick?
Is this a furry question?
This is a furry question.
Which, they're all foxes.
And what did you tell me the other day?
The furries are big on foxes and wolves.
They like like that kind of thing.
No, if I was a real animal, what real animal would I be for a day?
I'll tell you, there is, I don't know, I'm a Florida guy.
So this is kind of an easy answer.
But, you know, we have these crazy iguanas that are all over the place here.
And there is an iguana.
So Clyde has fought with iguanas.
I think we've shown you some pictures.
I put them in locals.
He has ripped them in half.
There's been blood in the pool.
We had a raccoon attack an iguana.
It's just a madness out here.
But there is an iguana who I kid you not, he's got to be from front of his face to they have extremely long tails.
He's got to be, he's bigger than this.
He's got to be almost six feet.
I know that sounds insane, but probably something close to that, five feet, something.
He has been climbing up to a tree.
We have a huge tree in our backyard that's got to be a couple, 200 feet high.
Like it's a massive, massive, massive old oak.
And he just sits there all day and stares at us.
And he does not care.
And he enjoys the sun.
And he's soaking it in.
And it's good.
it's a pretty good life to be in iguana you hang out in the sun all day and you jump in somebody else's pool at the end of the day like not bad not bad guys let's talk about 1775 coffee for a minute and then a couple more Questions, guys.
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Oh man, guys, we just got some really terrible news.
I'm so sad to hear this.
Hulk Hogan just passed away, I guess, just in the last little bit.
This is just breaking in the last few minutes, apparently from cardiac arrest.
I mean, Hulk Hogan, you've seen it.
I've talked about there.
There we are.
God, that's around 2017 or so.
I was at Teal, had Hulk Hogan come and give a talk to the company.
And then I got to spend about an hour with Hulk Hogan, just the three of us.
It was me, Hulk Hogan, and that's Jimmy Hart right there.
And we got to talk for about an hour.
He's just a great guy.
And look, he was just absolutely huge.
What I couldn't get over is everything about him.
His eyeballs were big, but he was such a fun guy.
He had a great laugh.
I loved, you know, one of the things he talked about.
Oh, so sad.
One of the things he talked about when he was giving his speech was that, you know, his real name was, I think it was Terry Boleia was his real name.
And originally he was a musician before a wrestler and everything.
And that, you know, if you listen to Hulk Hogan in interviews, when he wasn't the Hulk Hogan character, he was sort of soft-spoken in a way and very thoughtful.
And there was a softness about him, actually.
And then there was Hulk Hogan brother.
And he would talk about how he sometimes had trouble controlling like the person that he was, Terry, the human that he was, versus everyone would come up to him and say, Hulk, how you doing?
And then he'd start talking about like this.
And then he'd be like, oh, but wait a minute, I'm Terry.
Like he had this like internal struggle with that.
But he was, oh, first of all, he loved America so much.
And the theme song and, you know, I got to see him at the big MSG rally.
Oh, my God.
That's, you know, out of all of the people that I've met in my life, I've met all the politicians and athletes.
Like, I've basically met everyone that I ever wanted to meet and heroes and whatever.
And a lot of them can end up being disappointing.
But the two people that like I was actually like absolutely starstruck by meeting, and there's probably a connection here.
Oh, when they were in a movie together, would be Hulk Hogan and Sly Stallone, who I met a couple months ago.
And obviously Hogan was in That Was Rocky 3.
That was the Rocky with Mr. T. Oh, that's really, really sad.
He was a great, great American, and he understood entertainment.
And he was just an, he was like the star of stars.
Like, oh, that's really, really sad.
And we tried to get him on the show a bunch.
Me and him had traded a couple messages and that's sad.
Cassa Fourier says, have you seen the dramedy movie Dave with Kevin Klein and Sigourney Weaver?
It is a wonderful, wonderful movie.
I think we have the poster.
Do we have the poster?
It's an absolutely wonderful movie where, actually, it's kind of funny.
We should have done some AI clips on this because it has a little bit to do with the previous administration where the president, I think, has a stroke, the real president.
Kevin Klein is a lookalike and ends up taking over and then he falls in love with Sigourney Weaver, who's the first lady who really had fallen out of love with her true husband.
She finally figures out that it's a fake and they fall in love.
It's a really funny, funny movie.
Kevin Klein's amazing.
Sigourney Weaver also is a great actress.
But Charles Grodin is in it.
And do we have a picture of that?
So Charles Grodin, who was a comic back in the day, he plays Kevin Klein, Dave's friend, who's just an accountant.
He's like, look at him.
He's just kind of like this schlubby accountant.
And they need to, there's a great scene in the movie.
You could probably find it on YouTube where Dave now, he's pretending he's the president and he really needs to get some budget cuts in the government so he can get something passed, I think, to like feed young children or something like that.
And she really, Sigourney really wants it to happen.
And he doesn't know how to get these things cut.
So he calls his friend, who's like this schlubby accountant played by Charles Groden.
He comes in and there's this wonderful scene where he's going through the numbers of the government.
You know, he has his little calculator there and he's, and he just can't believe how absolutely efficient, inefficient the government is.
Like it's a first doge in some sense.
Really great scene.
Oh, I'm upset about Hulk Hogan.
Loves to laugh, says, love the copal.
Can you give us a few ways to enjoy it on National Tequila Day, no doubt?
So really, like the beauty of it is that we did this.
It's so light and refreshing that really I like it just on one rock.
But the other thing I've been doing lately is just I drop one piece, just one piece of watermelon in there.
You don't even have to mush it.
Like just the watermelon is very aromatic also.
So you're just going to get a little bit of the scent when you're drinking it.
And then if you chew the watermelon and you chew that up at the end, you're going to enjoy a little tequila and watermelon, which ain't bad.
And then a simple, simple mojito.
I think I invented this.
I have never heard of anyone making a mojito with tequila, but so simple.
All you do, little copal.
Then if you don't, then spindrip mojito, or you could just use club soda, but spindrip happens to be great.
And they make a mojito version of it, and there's no sugar in it.
It's like five calories.
And then mint and lime and just muddle it up and it's really just great.
And of course, this is just very, very simple.
If you want more than just the watermelon sliced, like copal, a tiny bit of watermelon juice, and then the tiniest splash of lime, and you will be, those are our go-tos.
And, you know, watermelon also has a lot of water in the watermelon, so you're going to hydrate while you're drinking as well.
And by the way, that will be our cocktail of choice tonight at the locals meetup.
Tallway says, do you feel more confident about taking this August off than you were last year?
And any early hints on who will be bringing you back from off the grid?
You know, I have to say, this year, every year it gets busier.
Like, life gets busier every year.
Obviously, I have kids now.
We launched Copal, which really took off, which is now taking a huge chunk of my time.
You know, we launched the production company that's now also running Actual Friends, and we're working on some other things as it relates to that.
I think I'm probably going to launch another company in the fall.
So, like, there's a lot of things going on.
So I just haven't had time.
Phoenix asked me last night when we were flying back, like, are you excited for August?
And I haven't had really a moment to think about it yet.
It's a week from today, basically, right?
What's today?
Today's the 23rd.
So we basically got a week left.
I am excited.
Like, this is my end of, it's the end of the season.
I'm excited for my entire team.
Like, we work really, really hard.
And I love the fact that we can create a system in place so that there's going to be plenty of content we're putting out.
I told you, AI Dave is on the way.
And we just ran a new test of him this morning to get his sarcasm going a little bit more.
And he's coming around.
So we're doing a lot of cool stuff.
And we're going to release the documentary of when we went to Hungary and When We Went to Israel.
We're going to release the mini doc of my stem cell journey.
So we're doing a whole bunch of cool stuff for you guys.
Although I do hope you take some time off as well and get to enjoy August without the machines.
But I just, yeah, I'm not, I just, we're too busy for me to be excited just yet.
So, and then, sorry, what was the second part of that question?
Was any early hints on who will be bringing?
It's one of my favorite people.
It is not someone, so who's done it in the past?
We had Ben Shapiro did it once, Megan Kelly did it once, Glenn Beck did it once, Adam Carolla did it once, Sage Steele did it once, Larry Elder did it once, Michael Knowles did it once.
Man, we've been doing this for a while.
I think this is my ninth year off.
It is none of them, but I will tell you it is someone who I've consistently said over the last year is one of my favorite people.
How about that?
And she has the genitals of a woman.
How about that?
I've said too much.
Could be anybody now.
We do not have a post-game show because we are so busy.
Sage is going to be in here for a minute, but I will make it up for, especially to those of you who are in Miami tonight because the locals meet up is a little bit later.
As I said to Keilan, me, thank you for watching.
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