Jillian Michaels exposes the pharmaceutical dominance of health funding, noting 70% of network support comes from drug companies. She critiques media handling of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s vaccine claims while detailing her regimen of methylated B vitamins, high-dose D3/K2, and peptides like BPC-157. Rejecting fillers but using cautious Botox, she advocates a "Goldilock zone" prioritizing health span over lifespan. Citing Dr. Stuart McGill for her back recovery, she warns against risky stem cell injections and questions the hepatitis B vaccine's CDC inclusion due to lobbying. Ultimately, Michaels highlights the widening divide between affordable holistic care and the medical-industrial complex in an untrustworthy world. [Automatically generated summary]
take pharmaceutical grade fish oil morning and night I take 5,000 milligrams of D3 and K2 I do occasionally take a multi there's a brand actually that is not my company but they have this is this is controversial it has uh I think lithium oritate in it but a very low dose and there's some data to suggest it can actually help with cognitive function and
be neuroprotective over time but it's it's obviously a controversial ingredient extremely low dose um let's see i take collagen peptides i take creatine uh and then i like i cycle tons of other peptides yeah so i was on the wolverine pack like bpc what's that oh you've got adamantium in your blood i've got that would be very impressive no adamantium yeah uh bpc 157 yeah what are you doing that for i was doing that for for my knee a little bit i was doing it for a shoulder
and an elbow but then also i find that it helps me recover more quickly um and you were injecting yourself yep all that stuff i was gonna do tb500 i haven't done it yet i think when i cycle bpc that's when i'll start the little pack of it i cycle cerebralizing for cognitive function that i have shipped in from austria so i do that quarterly i mean it's like a whole freaking thing nobody can like nobody can do this that's where you just kind of you know have
nicotine gum in try to keep up with you and every time is it in right now oh yeah it's in there right now and people think like oh i didn't know she was a smoker yeah and not a smoker it's great for um actually potentially
preventing the onset of parkinson's which one's in my family delaying uh the progression of alzheimer's which i have a gene for unfortunately it also helps with people who have edd because it facilitates recall and processing speed.
So I do two milligrams of that five times a week in particular.
You know, when people deform their faces, and there is a saying that not just aesthetics, but also health, the people who get the worst healthcare are not just the poorest, but the richest.
And this is one of the reasons I actually love Brian Johnson because he's a scout.
He's like, I'm going to do all this crap to myself.
If it goes wrong, you'll know.
And if it goes right, you'll know because a lot of it is controversial.
Like as I'm playing around with these different peptides, and you and I were talking about stem cells before, it is playing ball, sister.
And I could tell you three guys that injected them into their spine and almost died.
And they're affluent, intelligent leaders in the health space.
So when you have that much access to newer therapies, at least in this country, and people are leaving the country, they get the, you know, it can, it can go wrong.
So I would say find that Goldilock zone where you feel good, but you're not, you're not going so far that you're compromising your health in one way or another, or you're disfiguring your body.
How do you decide who to listen to when it comes to all this stuff?
Because you're on the shortlist of people I listen to.
When I've had a few things, or David had something he called you, like it's getting, I think, almost increasingly, like we went from this period where there was the expert class that was kind of lying about everything.
Now we have like the new online expert class where every time you own open Instagram, everyone's got a new theory on everything and everyone's pushing something and telling you the secret to this and that.
And I'm finding it in some sense, it seems more difficult now, even though we definitely have better information, or at least we have more information.
And then I'll back it up and talk to a group of other people.
And if there's consensus and I trust the experts and they're not conflicted, I make my decisions.
And generally, at the end of the day, if it doesn't pass the gut check, like chemical sweeteners made in a lab, like my common sense on this one is a no.
So another one that I just, I sat out completely.
I sat out the whole metformin game as a longevity therapy.
And I, listen, I love Dr. Peter Attiya.
I think he's brilliant.
I've read his book.
I've interviewed him three times.
But Peter is one of those guys like Brian Johnson who'll try ratmycin, who'll try metformin.
And I'm like, y'all, I'm going to sit it out because I don't see why as a healthy person metabolically, I would need this pharmaceutical.
Like, I don't really get it.
And I let them go down the path.
And then later, Peter got off of both and he's like, eh, diminishing returns.
So I kind of like, oh, you know, I'll wait a little bit, like methylene blue.
Listen, if you had cancer or a very specific condition metabolically that they were utilizing this for, then I would say, okay, speak to the relevant MD about this.
Look at the data.
What is it doing?
But as a healthy person, I'm like, I am not putting, I just, no matter how many experts, it does not pass my sniff test at this time.
At the same time, if I had advanced stage three breast cancer and they said I needed chemo, I would do chemo.
Now, is chemo?
No, chemo kills everything in the body.
But when you're sick, it's a completely different cost-benefit analysis.
So I do go to the PhDs and the MDs.
I don't, I don't do the influencer thing.
And in fact, the only advice that I've ever given people, I can cite the PhD or the MD and then tell you why I listened to that person and how many of them that I utilize to come to a conclusion and form a decision.
But there's something to be said for traditional education.
Without question, a lot of that research is paid for by the big pharma companies.
So I'll give you another example.
When I injured my back, Andrew Hecht, who ran HSS in New York, he may still, The top orthopedic surgeon at HSS worked on the world's most incredible athletes.
And I was like, oh, I'll just put, I'll just put stem cells in my back.
And he's like, no, we will not be doing that.
He's like, I have never seen one good thing come out of that.
Quite the contrary.
Only for me to then interview Josh Axe.
I don't know if this other doctor is out there with regard to what happened to him, but there's a very prominent, well-respected P, I'm sorry, MD out there who made the same mistake and almost died.
I mean, that's what happened to Brett Favre, basically, and many others.
So, how much of this, all the stuff?
So, your 51-year-old in great shape, obviously, take care of yourself, all of that stuff.
But if we were to go back, say, 70 years ago, a 51-year-old probably would not have been worried about their cognitive health, meaning it wouldn't have, it wouldn't have come up.
Is that, do you think that would have been just pure like naivete or that they didn't know enough, or that now in the modern world, we're so slammed with information and endless scrolling that it is somehow breaking our brains.
So, that cognitively, without doing some extra stuff, perhaps we not are not as sharp as we were way back when.
Just as an interviewer, one thing I've definitely noticed over the years is that people do lose their train of thought more than they used to.
A lot of times people will say something like, oh, I've got two things to say about that.
And they'll tell me one and then they have no idea what the second one is.
And I'm not saying I'm immune to it either.
But I have noticed that having done interviews for so long, that that kind of thing and that may be just, so it's, I get it, the genetic portion of it and whatever, but I think there's a modernity portion of it that we still are not grappling with properly.
Let me go back and review all of those studies that corrupted the food pyramid because I'm going to have to speak about that on CNN and they're not friendly.
So it's like you pack your brain all with all of that.
And then, oh, you know, we're going to want to talk about what Kennedy did here, here, and here.
And we're so mad that he wants to remove fluoride from the water.
So then I'm, okay, hold on.
Let me go back and pull up all the research on fluoridated water for better or for worse.
And how does that, it just, you're constantly filling your brain every day.
And there's, there is a certain element of fatigue.
Like your eyes start to cross in your head because you're trying to hold all this different information about so many things when you're giving interviews on it.
It's one thing to learn it, note it and say like, okay, you know what?
I don't need fluoridated water and keep it rolling.
But when you have to answer questions about that and 50 other things, and I think we are, we're packing our brains for the scroll is endless.
See, if you're an expert in this, you can put a lot in your brain, but people can only take in so much of it, which is why I try to do like this bite size.
And like, we don't need to go into like every little granular thing of everything.
Or when people ask me about what I'm doing, like for me, it's sort of what you said about the sniff test with aspartame.
Like, I'm just eating more whole foods now.
Like I'm eating, you know, more organic protein and veggies and I'm just staying off the other side.
And it's just, I'm not a doctor, but it's just kind of what's working for me.
And we would obviously try to utilize the most intelligent, progressive, but safe therapies for you.
That's not something you and I are going to defer to common sense on.
But when it comes to raising your kids or, you know, strengthening your relationships with your parents, your partner, your friends, taking care of your mental health and your physical health.
We've been doing this innately for tens of thousands of years as a species.
We should have like a general consensus on what works and what doesn't.
And I think this is where people get taken down rabbit holes due to conflict.
And I would simply try to say, these are the things you, if you're interested, these are the things you should do more homework on.
And I'm just trying to tell people what to think about when it comes to their health and where to get the right information.
Just a hepatitis B vaccine can Literally, just take people, throw them into such a spin about vaccines and this and that.
So it's like, how can you give them enough information that if they want to, they can effectively research it on their own and empower themselves to make the right decisions across the board in health?
What do you make of how the mainstream media is still treating Bobby Kennedy now?
I don't know if you saw, but over the last couple of days, there was a clip of Bill Nye, the science wears a bow tie and he went on CNN and basically was going after Bobby again for vaccines and basically saying there's no correlation between vaccine scheduling and autism.
I don't even think it was half, if I recall correctly.
Of those vaccines that are on the schedule, despite the fact that none were pre-licensing, how many of them were designed to look at long-term safety, not efficacy?
Like how long does it work for?
Not in eugenicity, meaning how effective was the body in mounting a response to it, but long-term safety.
Very, very few.
So when you end up going through all of these variables, Kennedy is still 100% right that none of the vaccines on the schedule used.
Oh, and I forgot to mention this.
How many of them used in inert placebo?
So this means saline.
Many of them used a placebo that was a previous vaccine.
It's called an active comparable.
So they manipulate this bullshit this way because the average person's like, oh, CNN crowdsourced and there's the study and it says placebo.
It doesn't say whether it was done pre-licensing.
It doesn't say whether it was done for long-term safety.
It doesn't say if it was done against inert placebo or active comparable.
So he's telling the truth.
He's telling the truth.
And the reality is we don't know.
And there should be nothing wrong with asking the questions and doing the research.
I'm always amazed by their lack of curiosity because let's say that Bobby's completely wrong about, just for the sake of argument for a second, let's say he's, Bill Nye is completely right.
CNN's right.
There's no connection between vaccines and autism.
Why is it that you guys are not curious at all about the rates of autism?
They're only interested in doing an episode on something that makes Bobby look bad, not on an episode, not doing an episode on why do we have these strange who funds these networks?
So, I mean, it is everything from, you know, Kennedy said that the fluoride by the chemicals, the chemical form of fluoride being added to the water to fluoridate it comes from industrial waste.
It does.
Google it.
Just simply put into chat GPT who makes money off fluoridating water.
It is a byproduct of fertilizer.
When they make fertilizer, instead of having to dispose of the waste, they add it to the water, which is a complete, we can go on and on and on from that.
Like when you see how they do those things, you see the byproducts or you see how they make chicken nuggets or how they make even just candy bars or whatever.
When you see like the complex, crazy ways that they do it, that so much of this is a byproduct of something or something that should have actually been thrown away.
And then when they're like, if you paint this guy with a crazy brush enough and you have these legacy sources of news that so many older individuals, arguably a lot of Gen X, all the boomers, and there's even a few of those silent generation people that are still alive.
My dad's the silent generation.
It came before the friggin boomers that have depended on the New York Times and CNN for so long that for you to say it could be compromised is blasphemous to me.
So if we don't have a particularly reliable set of people, let's say at the mainstream level, which we are all on board, that now we have the thing that we're in.
And what do you think the responsibility is for those of us that do this to be truthful?
I'll give you an example that'll be a little personal to you.
I was watching a clip that you did on a on a different show where you were sitting with a couple of ladies and one of the ladies, I won't even mention her name, was spouting some complete nonsense about the Gaza AIDS situation.
And it was completely debunked later in the day.
I'm guessing that there was no correction issued or anything.
I knew when I saw the clip, I was like, I know this is not true.
It's so obviously going to be debunked.
It was fully debunked.
What do you think the responsibility is in general?
Like I watched the clip that you posted of the lady on Piers last night and who was so eloquent and articulate at explaining okay, Dee, I can't fight back.
I don't know.
And for me to go down that rabbit hole, I could never, I'm like, Jill, like interview experts, I had Barry Weiss come on my podcast to give some context.
But when I get, I personally get caught up in those moments, you're thinking like, well, I trust this news person.
Now, you know, we have community notes that's doing some version of it, but for the podcast world that's now, that now is the teacher, what could the mechanism be?
Like we decentralize and then we would need some kind of centralized fact-checking apparatus.
And that's not really what people want.
So it's just kind of the Wild West and we got to accept it.
So, nevertheless, this journalist showed up to a few of my podcasts because I had recorded a couple same day.
And she criticized the fact that I didn't push back on different things.
And I said, but I'm not professing to be an expert here.
I'm learning from these guests.
I can't push.
I'm not a geopolitical expert.
I'm not an economist.
You know, I'm getting different perspectives.
And I will put people from different sides of the spectrum on all have Barry Weiss and I'll have Dave Smith.
And then the goal for the audience is to turn around and like you're going to have to do your own work on it.
And at the end of the day, you're going to hear different things.
For example, if we go back to the hepatitis B conversation, Kennedy said they did this research, they found an 1,135% increased risk of autism with hepatitis B vaccine.
And if I had a time machine, I would not have given my son.
My daughter was born in Haiti, but I would have not done the hepatitis B vaccine.
Except the issue, of course, is that once it's on the CDC schedule, it's essentially a federal mandate because most schools are like, oh, no, no, no, Vax, we're going to need those vaccination records.
Your kid can't come to school.
And now you're starting to see conservatives who are homeschooling their kids.
And that's one reason.
Indoctrination is another, but it's a wild picture.
So that's the one that's very confusing to people because basically, if you're in a monogamous relationship and there's no reason to think that the mother has hepatitis B, there's really no way this kid's going to get hepatitis B unless the argument is, oh, when they're four, like they're going to be, here's the argument because I've really tried to understand it.
They could interact with a family member that has hepatitis B and an open sore who will then put the open sore on the child's eyeballs.
I'm actually dead ass serious.
And I looked into, because of course I have to, I have to speak on this now, despite the fact that I'm not a vaccine scientist, but at least tell people what to look for.
You know, I'm not going to tell you what to think.
I'm going to tell you what to think about and where to do the research.
How many kids used to get in America used to get hepatitis B?
18,000 a year.
Okay.
Well, 18,000 kids, we don't want them to have hepatitis B. And obviously, that number has been virtually wiped out.
But how many tens of millions of kids are in this country?
With that said, of those 18,000, arguably they got it from mom.
And when you look at when you actually did a whole video on this, there's a package insert for the vaccine and it will tell you what pre-licensing studies were done.
And the amount of days that they monitored the child for adverse events was five days.
And when you're taking this kind of a risk with a disease that your kid is probably never going to get, and if there is a risk, we can test for that risk before vaccinating them.
What ended up happening was Merck created the vaccine.
This is, this is, I don't have concrete proof of this.
This is what I've heard.
This is my opinion on it on the matter, but Merck was asked to create it.
And it was initially, this is fact, recommended for intravenous drug users and sex workers.
But that group of people that demography is not really interested in preventing disease.
You know, I was pretty, I'm very proud of my COVID track record.
And after two weeks to stop the spread, I was like red-pilled from that moment.
But the thing that really like solidified that there was no way in high hell that I was going to get the vaccine, even though everyone was under every pressure from family members or whatever it might be, is when they really were going after the kids, to me, I was like, this, this makes no sense because not only are kids not dying, but I, but I was trying to take it.
So what's really going on here?
What I felt was if they could get you to inject your kid with something that you don't know what it is, they own you forever.
Cause try to imagine the guilt that a parent would have.
And how many parents?
I know a lot of parents now that have a lot of guilt about they injected their kid with something because of social pressure.
So do you think that basically we're either going to head to or maybe are in now some sort of brave new world version of all of this?
Well, there will be a certain set of people that will have the knowledge and the means and the community and support to live a certain more, let's say, healthy or holistic way.
And then there's just going to be this other set of people, which is going to be the bulk of the people.
So this is very brave New World or sci-fi that are just going to be in the system and they're just going to keep listening to the machine that's giving them vaccines and they're going to keep getting sick and they're not going to fix diets because they'll take the pill to do it and then they'll find out that the Ozempic shot is going to do this and all of that stuff.
And that really that will be the great divide of what humans are.
I think that's kind of, then you throw in a little AI stuff now.
I'm going real sci-fi and robots.
But like, that's kind of really what I see the divide, the incoming divide of humanity to be.
There are incredibly intelligent people who have pushed back on the most common sense things.
I was doing an interview with a person from MIT and she was talking about how you need a truckload of red number three for it to have any deleterious health impact.
And I said, okay, first of all, have you considered all of the other toxins in your water, in your air, in your food?
And are you looking at the cumulative load of these things?
I have fought with very intelligent people who have thyroid conditions over filtering fluoride out of their water because there's a potential link.
And you know why they won't do it?
Never Trump.
So people are going to dig in because of Kendi and Trump because they've made it political.
Right.
And then the one thing that does alarm me, and you'll know this better than me, you would put on the kind of topics we were going to discuss, a lot of the transgender athlete stuff going on, like UPAN and California.
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But the thing is, like all of these executive orders mean nothing.
So while you and I can think, well, yeah, well, now we're not going to get the booster and we're going to have beef tallow and you can have your chemically extracted soybean oil until when the next president mandates it all over because none of it is moving through Congress.
At that point, you just hope you hope that I think what the answer to that question is, is you hope that the culture has changed enough that enough people have come around so that at the end of the day, if you see fruit loops with red dye, or you realize that you can do it another way, you're going to do it the other way, that eventually that these things get disconnected.
Yeah, that these things get disconnected from the government.
That you can't assume that the government, because they pass legislation on beef tallow, is suddenly looking out for you.
Well, that's also the beauty of capitalism because the other one will be more expensive for a little while, but then hopefully people shift and then it starts going like this.
And then next thing you know, you're making actual property.
Well, that's another strange misnomer that people have: that somehow, if you don't have a lot of money, you cannot eat in a healthy way.
And look, I'm blessed.
So I'm not worried about that for myself.
But when I go to the grocery store, like, if you just buy like organic ground meat and you buy organic eggs and you walk out of there with, you know, organic arugula or something, like it's not expensive and you can walk out of there and eat well.
I just recently read a bunch of studies on the fact that food deserts are based on supply and demand.
People in that part of the country are not demanding those things en masse.
And it is also rigged.
So one of the things that Kennedy is doing is working to remove, you know, it's going, we have like, I think, six states that have done waivers to remove soda and junk food from Snap.
And it's like, well, actually, if you're going to be on the government dole and now we're also going to have universal health care for everybody, then it kind of is our business.
That's I, when Obamacare was coming out, that's what I kept thinking.
Well, all right, you want us, you want everybody to pay into something for everybody.
But the reality is that, you know, talking about the food pyramid, when you look at what made refined grains the basis of a healthy diet, well, the USDA was lobbied by the wheat lobby, the corn refiners association, the vegetable oil lobby, because again, chemically extracted soybean oil is far more profitable than grass-fed beef towel.
And it's like, even that sort of thing right there, it's like we're in this weird in-between process where they're like, here's your steak finished in beef tallow.
Like, honestly, if you wrote me into this whole birthright citizenship thing, as an American citizen, common sense is going to tell me that anchor babies and birthing tourism is exploiting our system here.
And we should revisit it.
Like, I can't sit here and argue if Trump has the executive power to do this.
It seems like he doesn't.
And then there is that loophole of like, okay, you pulled the class action thing.
You did that fast and you undermined the Supreme Court here on these nationwide injunctions, but legally you can do it.
So smart, cynical.
But you can do, okay.
Like, I think if you, if you ask me to be a constitutional political piece, right?
So it remains to be seen if it's like a smear campaign, kind of like the New York Times, or if it'll be an open and honest conversation where we're listening to different ideas.
But the other thing is, I mean, I think what's happened with them also is that because they're so purging viewers, they need some of us to be let in because that then gets some action going online.
So it's not like they're necessarily bringing you in to take you out because it's like, oh, bring her on because people like her.
There's certain things where I feel confident because I have done so many interviews with people about it.
It could be tariffs.
Like, I feel like I'm ready to have that one.
I'm like, okay, I've done my homework on the reshoring and the national security stuff and like this and that.
And I think I can, like a scale of one to 10, I can do a four, which I, you know, but I think everybody else might be at like a six or a seven.
So, you know, I'm not the person you should be asking, but if you're asking me an opinion as an American citizen, I'm going to, I'm going to give it to you.
And I think that's where I have value and anything outside of my wheelhouse.