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What the hell was that?
Volcanic eruption!
As the saying goes, if you're not at the table, you're on the menu.
As the saying goes, if you're not at the table, you're on the menu.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
All right, everybody.
It is June 4th, 2025.
I'm Dave Rubin.
This is the Rubin Report live on location from, yeah, I bet you can guess it, Jerusalem, Israel.
We are in probably the most important real estate.
Literally in the world, maybe with the best view of it right now.
Our friends over at Aish have graciously lent us their rooftop view.
And what you have right behind me, we obviously are in the old city of Jerusalem.
And what you are seeing behind me is the holiest site in Judaism, which is the Western Wall.
Actually, technically, the holiest site is a little bit above that.
It's the remains of the ancient temple.
But there now is the Al-Aqsa Mosque there.
So Jews pray to the wall instead, which is just an old retaining wall down there.
The Al-Aqsa Mosque and Dome of the Rock are right over there.
And just minutes away, about 10-minute walk through the old city, is the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, which is the holiest site in Christianity.
So this is a magical place.
I mean, I really can't describe, as my entire crew has been saying, like, if there is just...
There is a vibe here.
You know, we spent a couple of days in Tel Aviv, which has an unbelievable nonstop energy.
And this is a tiny country that, you know, And right before I did my show in Tel Aviv, just a few minutes before I did my show in Tel Aviv, the other night, everyone's phones lit up and there was a rocket from the Houthis.
And fortunately, the show literally was in an underground comedy club in a bunker.
So we were already in the bunker.
That worked for a couple of jokes during the show.
But this is a country that's fighting for its existence, trying to get its hostages out of Gaza.
Obviously, you know, has all these rockets coming in.
But then you come here.
To Jerusalem, literally the holiest city on the face of the planet, and you feel something that, the only way I can describe it, I think this is as close as you can get to meeting God.
It's right here, and there's a lot of people from all sorts of faiths that feel that.
And just quickly, I'll do a one-minute history recap.
When the British mandate of Palestine expired, they offered to split the land.
There was never a country of Palestine, and they had Jews and Arabs and Christians living here.
They offered to split the land.
The Jews accepted.
The Arabs said no.
All the Arab armies tried to destroy Israel.
Israel then came into existence.
Harry Truman recognized Israel.
UN recognized Israel, the modern state of Israel, but they did not have Western They didn't have Eastern Jerusalem either.
They didn't have Jerusalem at all.
And for the next 20-ish years, 19 years till 1967 war, this was controlled by Jordan, and Jews were not allowed to pray here.
Here they let Muslims pray, obviously.
They don't even let Jews really pray at their holy site, but they let Muslims pray at the mosque, obviously.
So they unified the city and brought it together.
And this is a place of coexistence.
It's just extraordinary.
You go here, you walk around.
Orthodox men, Orthodox Jewish men with the old school hats, walking next to women in traditional Muslim garb.
And it's an incredible place of coexistence that, I guess, just doesn't play well for the PR machine that we see internationally.
So we are going to talk about a lot of the stuff that's going on back in America and try to do as normal a show as possible.
And I'll try not to squint that much, but it's an absolutely beautiful day and the sun is shining.
We've got a makeshift roof over me, so bear with us.
Let's dive right in.
And actually, the first story is, I would say, deeply connected to everything that's been going on here in the 600-plus days since October 7th and this horrific situation that has taken place in the Middle East.
The White House is now, well, I'll read it to you, a tweet from the White House as of this morning, just in, the wife and five children of illegal alien Mohammed Solomon, the suspect in the anti-Semitic firebombing of Jewish Americans, have been captured and are now in ICE custody for expedited removal.
They could be deported as early as possible.
So this is the illegal who came here two or three years ago to America.
got in legally, then overstayed his visas, and he was shouting free Palestine and had Molotov cocktails and injured, I think, at least eight people, including elderly people, and children wanted to murder people.
This is to the backdrop of two We also had a jihadist attack on New Year's Day in New Orleans.
You might remember that one.
And then, of course, everything going on here.
But there's a different sheriff in town in the United States of America right now, and his name's Donald Trump.
And we are not going to put up with this crap anymore.
It doesn't matter what you think of Israel or Gaza or Hamas or anything else.
In the United States of America, we have laws.
And you can't murder people because you don't like them.
Like what's going on in the other part of the world.
You can't murder people because you don't like what's going on in your country.
We actually have law and order again.
And things have escalated, I would say, in some sense in a positive way.
I just saw this from Texas Senator Ted Cruz.
In the coming days, I will be circulating and reintroducing a modernized version of the Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Act, which I have been pushing for my entire Senate career.
As I told the Free Beacon, the Muslim Brotherhood used the Biden administration to consolidate and deepen their influence.
But the Trump administration and Republican Congress can no longer afford to avoid the threat they pose to Americans and American national security.
Hint, hint, Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar and possibly AOC, this is not going to go well for you guys because there's just no doubt you have some support within that network.
But I really pray, I'm in the right place to pray, that Congress passes that.
Muslim Brotherhood, which is like sort of the head of the snake of the terror network that runs throughout the Western world, of course it should be a terrorist organization.
Of course we should be booting these people and their supporters who want war.
You know, globalize the Intifada.
Of course they should not be in the United States.
Many places in Europe have designated them a terrorist organization.
And by the way, many places in the Arab world, including the UAE, have banned them as a terrorist organization.
In the UAE, they don't even let you fly the Palestinian flag because they really understand what's going on.
It has nothing to do with creating power.
All right, let's put a pin in that.
Let's get back to other things that are going on in America.
And actually, they're deeply connected.
And this one, yes, I'm in the holiest place on earth, and I'm going to show you a clip of the view.
That really does not feel right to me, but I am going to do it, but you'll see why it's connected.
It's Anna Navarro on The View, and she lives in Miami, and she's very concerned about what she's seeing in Miami as it pertains to ICE agents deporting illegals.
Illegals, by the definition of coming here illegally, are illegal, and if you are caught by ICE, you've got to go home.
That's just kind of how it is.
There's a different sheriff in town.
As I said, she's not happy about that, and she makes up some complete and utter nonsense here.
I will comment on it in a moment.
ana navarro ▲ ● ▼
And, you know, here's the problem.
It's not just Joni Ernst.
The lack of empathy, the lack of humanity, the lack of decency that I am seeing all over the country.
With the suffering that Donald Trump and his misadministration are inflicting on people living in this country, our neighbors, our friends, our colleagues, the children who go to school with our children.
I'm seeing it in South Florida, where I live, where most of our representatives are Republican.
And the suffering and fear that the Latino community is undergoing in Miami and South Florida, all over the country.
The windows of their cars are getting smashed.
They're getting dragged through the streets by men in masks who are picking up.
Children are being torn from the arms of their mothers.
And this is happening, and our Republican congresspeople aren't saying a damn thing.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
All right, Anna Navarro, you are lucky today because I am in the holiest place on Earth, so there'll be no choice language on today's show.
There'll be no F-bombs or anything else.
I'm just going to do this as straight up as possible.
Everything you said there is a lie.
Now, you do live in South Miami.
That actually is true.
You live pretty close to me, as I understand it.
And here's what I'd like to say.
You lied in what you said there.
That's one thing.
You're on the view.
Okay, that's just fine.
I'd like to meet you for coffee.
I know a lot of Latinos in South Miami.
I hear a lot of Spanish all day long.
There are more Cubans and Venezuelans and all sorts of people from all walks of life that come here that love this country, that are thrilled.
Thrilled.
I would welcome you to come to my weekly basketball game.
And my buddy Frank, he's Cuban, actually.
And almost all the guys we play with are Cuban and Venezuelan.
And I'm hearing a lot of Spanish trash talk.
And they're all Trump supporters.
And I'd like you to meet these guys.
But if that's a bit much, I will meet you at Calle Ocho.
Why don't we do that?
And we can have a cafecito.
And we can talk about what your confusions are.
Because everyone in the Miami area, in South Florida, that I know, is happy.
We have law and order.
And yes, we do have Republican representatives.
And that's why we don't have homeless people all over the place.
And that's why when a busload of Chinese illegals showed up very near your house, Anna, they were immediately arrested and deported.
they shouldn't be wandering around the neighborhood.
And we don't know why they're here So you're very, very confused.
You're hysterical.
You're lying.
And in the spirit of holiness and everything else, I'd like to sit down.
Coffee on me.
Wherever you want, we can go to the most Latina, Latino area you can think of.
I'll do my busted Spanish if you want to do it that way, too, and we will see what's what.
But when you see the sort of hysteria around all of this, that's one version of it.
But the other version, the more important version, a version that maybe Anna's not that connected to, is the reality version of it.
And if you want to see the reality version of it, well, I can't believe it.
I'm going to show you some reality from the Washington Post, although the headline is a little confusing.
Listen to this.
The mysterious drop in fentanyl seizures on the US-Mexico border.
The reasons behind the decrease of fentanyl seizures in the US and along the Mexico-US border are complex.
Do you see what the Washington Post even had to do there?
They know why we are having less fentanyl brought in.
Because Donald Trump closed the border.
And the 15 or so million people who were coming through, and they were gang members and rapists and fentanyl dealers and all sorts of child traffickers and all sorts of other horrible things, they are not coming now.
Well, some of them may still be coming, but they're being stopped.
But largely, literally by Donald Trump saying, you cannot come in anymore.
As opposed to what our previous administration did, they're not coming.
So it is not mysterious as to why the fentanyl numbers are dropping.
It's not mysterious why the illegal numbers are dropping.
It's not complex.
You don't have to think about it.
But even the Washington Post, which is pure propaganda, lies about virtually everything.
They even had to semi-acknowledge the truth, and then they...
Like, guys, no, you don't have to do that anymore.
We need to get over the lies.
Maybe I'm feeling that particularly strongly in this place of history and truth.
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Let me show you this.
This is wild.
So, you know, as these ICE agents, They are not taking legal citizens.
I know the Democrats want you to think that.
The Democrats want you to defend illegal MS-13 gang members who are also former wife beaters and child traffickers.
But actually they're taking out illegals.
And watch this.
So this is a video of ICE agents who arrested an illegal.
I want you to listen to the audio of the man who's filming it, and just to see the sort of disconnect between Like, come on, man.
tom homan ▲ ● ▼
That's a damn shame what y 'all doing.
Yeah, it's cool.
It's cool, but it's a damn shame.
Yo, my man, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry Trump's an asshole.
unidentified
That's what we're gonna start doing, fighting back.
tom homan ▲ ● ▼
Goddamn shame.
All y 'all should put a bullet in y 'all heads.
Doing Trump's work.
Every single one of y 'all put a bullet in your head.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
Okay, so, you know, we have something called the First Amendment in the United States, and the First Amendment, God bless the founders of our country.
We've figured out that you want people to be able to speak, and you want them to be able to speak in a way that is offensive sometimes, because that's how you turn through ideas.
And whether you get offended by something is on you, right?
You're going to hear things that you don't like in life, and that's just reality.
And the last thing that you want is the government stopping people from saying things.
But here you have government agents doing the work.
That the government's supposed to do, which is making sure that America is for Americans.
The guy that they're arresting right there, he might not have a criminal record, he might be a perfectly nice guy, and he might have been here for years, but if he's illegal, again, Trump's giving people the opportunity right now to self-deport, and then via the app, then you can get back on a list to maybe get in.
So we're actually doing this in the most mature possible way, right?
We really, really are.
Like, think about that.
They're not just bursting into places without any warning.
There has been warning for months and many people have self-deported.
But the people that won't self-deport that get kicked out, you're never coming back, so that guy's never coming back.
But the reason I relate this to the First Amendment, of course, is there you have some random guy saying he should put a bullet into the head of the ICE agents.
Forget what he said about I mean, that really strikes me as a violation of the First Amendment.
Like, that is a direct threat.
He was basically saying, I should kill you.
And not only is he saying I should kill you, but he's saying it to a government official.
I don't know if they're looking into that guy.
Maybe in some sense that's a sidebar here, but relative to the violence that we are now seeing, the normalization of if anyone's on the other side, that you can basically call for violence and then enact violence.
I mean, I saw an awful lot of people basically defending even this Egyptian national who did what he did.
Well, there's a genocide going on across the world.
Not only is there no genocide, but the people you're defending are the ones trying to commit the genocide.
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But I know explaining things to these people is a little bit difficult.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
So we better really start managing this stuff a bit better, and that gets us back to the Ted Cruz bill, because if we can boot the Muslim Brotherhood out, if we can take care of our borders and then get rid of the bad guys, we actually could have a country again, and then I could retire.
But let's continue, because the Democrats still exist, at least partly as a political party, and Timu Obama, Hakeem Jeffries, he's not happy with what ICE is doing.
hakeem jeffries ▲ ● ▼
Every single ICE agent...
Who's engaged in this aggressive overreach and are trying to hide their identities from the American people will be unsuccessful in doing that.
This is America.
This is not the Soviet Union.
We're not behind the Iron Curtain.
This is not the 1930s.
And every single one of them, no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, will of course be identified.
That, in fact, is the law.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
He should be kicked out of Congress.
I know I usually go on the AOC, Ilhan, Rashida, and Ilhan really should be kicked out of Congress, particularly Ilhan who illegally married her brother for immigration status and is a de facto member of a terrorist organization, at least one terrorist organization.
He should be kicked out of Congress too.
He is basically there threatening the lives of these ICE agents.
You know why the ICE agents wear masks?
It's not because they're not proud of their work.
They wear masks because if their faces are seen, then people People might go after their families and their kids and everything else because of people like you.
This has nothing to do with the 1930s.
They're not rounding up American citizens for political descent or because of their skin color or their religion.
But you guys use fear more than anything else.
And again, why are you always so concerned about people who are not citizens of the United States?
How about be concerned about citizens of the country?
The United States of America, in which you live, where women are being raped, and a 37-year-old mother of five was killed in Maryland, and the fentanyl, and all of the stuff.
But you never really care about that, Timu Obama.
Think about that for a little bit.
Now, there is a guy who does think about those things, and he will play himself in the movie about himself.
Yes, I'm talking about Tom Homan.
Here he is explaining what it has been like to clean up this Biden administration mess.
tom homan ▲ ● ▼
Was they created the biggest national security vulnerability this country's ever seen.
Not only did 2 million known gotaways, 2 million people crossed the border.
We don't know who they are, where they came from.
We don't know where they are now.
On top of that, even through the legal process, the Biden administration were bringing people unvetted, handing out work fees like their candy while they sat here and planned something bad.
We are going to be dealing with this for the next 10 years.
Because of the chaos they created in four years.
We're out there kicking butt.
We're arresting a lot of criminal aliens.
We're out there looking for the bad guy.
And when we're out there doing that, Sean, we got protesters assaulting ICE officers.
got members of Congress all over the country going to ICE facilities, raising hell, saying this is your oversight responsibility.
Where were those oversight responsibilities when 10.5 million illegal immigrants came across the border?
Where's the oversight responsibility?
I'm releasing over 8 million illegal immigrants in this country.
Where's the oversight responsibility then?
This is attack on ICE.
This is attack on the Trump administration.
We're trying to fix the damage done by the government.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
What a great juxtaposition to show you those two videos together.
Hakeem Jeffries does not care about Americans.
He does not care.
And I would also, because, you know, Tom Holman there, they had him split screen with this Egyptian who tried to murder at least eight Americans and had, I think, a dozen more Molotov cocktails, literally designed to burn people alive, something that this country has had to deal with for a long time.
Tom Homan cares about the United States of America, and Tom Homan's right.
So let's say it doesn't exactly...
That's the point.
But if there are about two million bad-ish people in the country, you know what they might start doing?
I don't know.
Maybe throwing Molotov cocktails at people who they disagree with politically or they don't like their religion because they came from a part of the world that's holding on to ancient hatreds, as we just saw.
That is a huge, huge problem.
This is a place...
They've had to deal, which are happening in London right now, right?
So now there's politicians who literally want people to not have sharp knives anymore and just have a blunted tip knife, because that's how you solve terrorism.
A woman shouldn't be able to cut the chicken the way she wants to for dinner because there's a jihadist outside.
Completely absurd.
But they've had to deal with bus bombings and suicide bombings and cafes.
Blowing up the Sbarro that used to be here was a massive bombing.
They've had to deal with all of that.
And they're still here.
Do we want to go down that route?
Do we want 20 years of we don't know who's in the country and all sorts of stuff is going to be blowing up?
And again, even if you don't care about the Jews, if you just, from an American perspective, do you care about your family's ability to go out and not feel that they're going to get mowed down by a car, which we now see happen all over Europe, and they've had to deal with here for a long time and everything else?
So these things, whether you like it or not, whether you want to see it or not, are deeply connected.
And it's unbelievably dangerous.
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All right, so this is all to the backdrop of Trump actually trying to do good things.
Trump is trying to secure the country, and that's the first thing.
And if you can secure a country, and you can say America's for Americans, that's pretty good.
America, freedom, liberty, all these things.
Beer, hot dogs, all that stuff.
Like, it's good, and it's okay.
And if we can do that, then we can start doing a lot of other things.
But of course, the Democrats are still trying to destroy Trump and they're doing it with a new phrase called "taco." This is a phrase that came And it was created, I guess, recently by a Financial Times columnist as it pertains to the tariff deals to imply that Trump, you know, put these tariff deals out there and that he's not going to hold anybody to account.
There is no evidence of that.
As I've said from day one, Trump will get.
Some of these deals are going to land.
Some of them aren't.
But we clearly are going to be in a better position than we were before.
But this is what the Democrats have now.
They have tacos.
So I want to read a tweet to you from a reporter named Andrew Solynder.
And then the response from VP J.D. Vance.
J.D. Vance retweeted it and said, we have the lamest opposition in history.
This is all they have at this point.
They have no good ideas, so run with taco.
Okay, there you have your little meme, and Trump always chickens out.
Okay, you've got a little something there.
But it's not true.
You know, what makes a good meme spread, the idea of meme spreading, is that you say something true in a very simplistic way.
you've created a new acronym or a new word, and there's something deeply true, and that's why people care about a meme.
That's why when you look at a meme, You want to spread it.
But what are you saying?
Trump always chickens out.
Have we gotten all the deals back and they are no good?
Did Trump chicken out when defending the border?
I don't think so.
We're in negotiations with Iran.
Has Trump chickened out yet?
No, maybe he will, but he hasn't yet.
There's just a laundry list of things.
Did he chicken out when you guys tried to put him in jail?
Did he chicken out when you guys tried to impeach him?
I mean, did he chicken out when he was literally shot?
He had part of his ear blown off and he got up and he stood up and said, fight, fight, fight.
Were those the chicken out moments?
But congratulations, you guys have your tacos.
You have your tacos and you also have Eric Swalwell.
And this is going to be tough.
How am I going to do it without four letter language in the holiest city on earth?
But here's Eric Swalwell on the taco situation.
unidentified
Hey, Congressman.
Trying to help you?
What the f*ck is up with Trump always chickening out on tariffs?
chuck schumer ▲ ● ▼
When it comes to negotiating with the terrorist government of Iran, Trump's all over the lot.
One day he sounds tough, the next day he's backing off.
If Taco Trump is already folding, the American public should know about it.
No side deals.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
Could these people be any worse?
Congratulations to Eric Swalwell, who once slept with a Chinese spy named Fang Fang, and everyone knows about it.
You're eating a taco, and your little assistant can use the F-bomb.
That's very impressive.
And Chuck Schumer, going after Trump on the Iran stuff, after Chuck Schumer himself has thrown Israel under the bus.
I can assure you, Chuck Schumer is not liked here in the state of Israel at all.
But this is what they've got.
They've got fear, and now they've got their silly little names.
Here's Donald Trump on taco.
unidentified
Wall Street analysts have coined a new term called the taco trade.
They're saying Trump always chickens out on your tariff threats, and that's why markets are higher this week.
What's your response to that?
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼
I kick out?
unidentified
Chicken out.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼
Oh, isn't that chicken out?
I've never heard that.
You mean because I reduced China from 145% that I said?
Down to 100 and then down to another number.
And I said, you have to open up your whole country.
And because I gave the European Union a 50 percent tax tariff and they called up and they said, please, let's meet right now.
Please, let's meet right now.
And I said, OK, I'll give you till June 9. I actually asked them, I said, what's the date?
Because they weren't willing to meet.
And after I did what I did, they said.
We'll meet anytime you want.
And we have an end date of July 9th.
You call that chickening out?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
You call that chickening out?
Don't think so.
So again, we'll see where all these deals come back.
But you know, we already have some evidence that some of the deals are coming back better.
You know more are going to come back.
I already gave you a long list of other things that this guy hasn't chickened out to.
But how about let's do it this way, if we're talking about chickens.
We had a president of the United States who was not the president.
We can't even call him a chicken because he wasn't even there.
He was the guy that was supposed to be And he was sleeping.
And then he let the foxes in.
And then, well, we let in the fentanyl dealers and the murderers and the rapists and everything else.
So you can call Donald Trump names.
That's just fine.
I think Donald Trump's gonna be okay with that.
But after four years of the absolute and utter farce that you people put us through, It literally is as simple as that.
And speaking of people nobody should be listening to, a man who desperately wanted to be vice president, but nobody likes, Tim Walls.
unidentified
I say this because I'm proud to say it looks like as of next Tuesday, I'm going to have a high school graduate with my son, Gus.
And he's pretty in tune to this.
But when he said this, he said, Dad.
A lot of these young guys especially said they're not voting on the policy issues.
And he wasn't dissing them.
He said they may know the policy issues, but most of them don't.
They're doing it because there's a sense of excitement, a sense of thrill in this.
It's entertainment or whatever.
We all dismiss that.
Donald Trump's a clown.
You know, Donald Trump's rallies are a clown.
And I think Donald Trump understands belonging, understand groups.
I mean, you look at it.
He gives them a uniform, the red hat.
He gives them some chance, some talking points, whatever.
It's not all that different than when we build sports teams in high school.
You belong.
You're part of this.
It's not so much the policies.
I think it's incredibly dangerous.
But I don't think we went out to get them.
We didn't out to make them feel a part of this.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
I'm trying to be generous of spirit today.
You almost got something right there.
Yeah, the red hat and the Make America Great Again slogan and the rallies and the American flags and all that stuff.
That does give people a sense of belonging.
Because America is our home.
And freedom is good.
And Trump widened the tent of a very narrow conservative Republican party.
He widened it into the most freedom-loving.
Political party that America has ever had.
Thus, you get the people that were Democrats only a couple years ago, like Robert F. Kennedy and Tulsi and all of the stuff that you know about, right?
Now, as for the other part of that, well, what does he say?
That, you know, these young guys, they're not voting on policy.
Well, actually, that's not true because we do know that the younger generations now are actually okay with borders and they are okay with safe cities.
And Trump is a little bit looser on some of the social issues that matter.
So they are voting on policy, but the thrill, the excitement, the entertainment, yeah, Trump is great at that too.
And you guys aren't good at that or the policy.
So which one do you have?
If Trump has, if they're not voting on policy, well, Trump has better policies, that's for sure.
And then if the thrill and the entertainment and the hat, that's all good, well, what did you guys run on?
You ran on calling us all racists and misogynists and bigots.
You ran on defending criminals and you ran on DEI and that the country's bad.
And I hope you continue with all of that.
Here is Jordan Peterson.
He went on Megyn Kelly's podcast.
And they talk about Tim Walz because, you know, the Democrats are really realizing they have a problem with young men, particularly young white men.
If you keep saying to people, you're bad because you're young.
You're bad because you're a man.
You're bad because you're white.
Over time, those people are not going to like you very much.
Here's Jordan on that.
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The Democrats, all they can do is ape respect for masculinity.
I mean, they tried to trot out Tim Walz as a man.
jordan b peterson ▲ ● ▼
You know, I mean, really, I mean, you know, there are worse examples of men than Tim Walz, admittedly, but we might also point out...
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No, it's coming to mind, but I'm sure theoretically...
You know, I think about the Trump election, Jordan.
I sat in this very studio that night with a bunch of young men from my son's high school.
There were about 16, 17 of them.
And we were up late.
You know, Trump, the election wasn't called until, I think, the 2 a.m. hour.
And these guys, they didn't have to be a conservative or a Trump supporter to come here.
Probably, naturally, a lot of them just were.
But when we called it for Trump, and I'm sure you saw this in your own world, but they weren't just like, yes, they were like this.
Thank God.
They were head in hands, like running their hands through their hair, like near tears.
It was more than joy.
It was like relief.
Relief, yeah, yeah.
Well, could you imagine a four-year term of Kamala Harris?
No, but when I was 18 or 17, these guys were that into it because they knew they had seen what happened, I think, to the class ahead of them and the one ahead of that and their older brothers and maybe their fathers.
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You know, let me start with the Meghan part here because it's interesting.
I had the same reaction.
And for those of you, I think it was one of our biggest live streams ever.
Maybe our biggest live stream ever was on election night, which I'm very proud of, because obviously there were plenty of places that you could watch election coverage.
But remember, towards the end of the night, and I went to bed at like 2 a.m. after six hours, and it hadn't even been officially called.
We knew it was going in that direction.
But when it was basically there, when we all started to breathe, like, my reaction was not fist-pumping joy.
It was kind of like, thank God.
Thank God.
Here we are.
Here we are in Jerusalem.
Hey, thanks, man.
Like, that's where we were.
We were all feeling that we were so close to the precipice of losing the country.
And as Jordan points out, imagine what four years under Kamala Harris would be like.
Imagine what we would be all feeling now.
All of the evil forces.
The border would still be open.
All of the evil forces as it pertains to everything happening in this part of the world as well and everything happening in Russia and Ukraine and all of the stuff, the woke crap.
That they were doing to your kids and everything else.
All of that would be on steroids right now.
not only on steroids, but they would be then chasing after Donald Trump, both legally and in any other way that they could.
Like, we would...
The fate of the Western world was basically saved because of the election of Donald Trump.
And you can even see that in Europe now because, as I was just in CPAC Hungary, Hungary, a place that's defending its own borders, there now, look, the tiny little country that is now looked at...
No one would have thought that.
Hungary, a place that was occupied by both the communists and the Nazis not too long ago.
Like, actually completely crazy.
So the relief that Meghan is talking about is absolutely true.
And then as it pertains to the masculine part, look, the truth is if you say to people all the time, you are inherently bad because you are a man or you behave like a man, what should a man behave like?
I don't know.
A man should, I don't know, how about act honorably and know what truth is and aim himself Check this out from Charlie Kirk.
Nate Silver's latest blog post notes that conservatives are up 31 points among those with self-described excellent mental health, and down 26% among those with poor mental health.
Democrats have turned themselves into the party of the neurotic, the unstable, Guys, that's kind of true, right?
I mean, those numbers are rather extraordinary, but putting aside the specifics of the number, one of the things that I've learned over the years of being around more generally conservative people is generally conservative people, right?
They know...
Often it's from a religious lens.
I certainly see a lot of that here.
But whether they're religious or not, per se, they have a belief system that is outside of politics and they believe in basic reality.
You can conduct a conversation with them and you can have a back and forth and they aren't triggered all the time because they heard something they don't like, etc., etc.
Now, largely on the left side of that, because they think that truth is movable and, you know, you should attain power to make the world better.
If we could just give the structure enough energy and power, it would demand that the people behave as they wish.
When they don't get that, well, what happens?
It comes out in neurosis.
It comes out in putting a mask on and supporting a terrorist organization and calling for violence and burning down cities and not being for law and order and all of these things.
And it comes out in literally a mother of a six-year-old thinking that her perfect son is a daughter, maybe because he's a little effeminate.
Or maybe because she just has some piece of her that's broken and wants some attention, like a Munchausen by proxy.
So it should not surprise anybody that the divide is not really left-right, and then the divide is not really sort of like for the state or for libertarianism.
It's basically common sense and reality versus neuroses and craziness.
Pick your side, people.
And when you are picking your side, one thing you probably want to do is leave Blue Cities because they are a freaking absolute mess.
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And if you are in blue cities, like, say, Los Angeles, you have a bunch of completely incompetent people that are in charge.
From Karen Bass, the mayor, who was not in town during the Pacific Palisades fire, to the DEI chief of the fire department.
Her name is Janice Quinones, who was doing all of those DEI videos.
And she makes $750,000 a year.
Do any of you guys make that much?
I gotta look at the numbers.
I don't think so.
That's an awful lot of money.
My friend Alex Michelson asked Karen Bass if she thinks that the fire chief, who is at the very least not particularly good at her job and was focused mostly on equity rather than, I don't know, figuring out how to stop fires, keeping the water in the reservoirs, whether she's deserving of that much cash.
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Performance of the LADWP.
There's been a lot of questions about Janice Quinones, who's making over $700,000 a year.
Do you think that she did a good job, and should she continue in that job?
Well, I certainly would not sit here and say she shouldn't continue in her job.
But the issue with the DWP actually is the DWP and the fire department as well.
So one of the big issues was the reservoir and the fact that the reservoir was empty.
The reservoir was empty.
It was not a reservoir.
Well, it was a reservoir for drinking water.
So it was covered.
And the problem was there was a tear in the cover.
And so the state ordered it to be empty and closed.
And it hadn't been finished in time.
You know, how some people see that job performance maybe not meriting $750,000.
That's more than you make.
That's more than you make.
Let me just say that the DWP is the nation's largest utility.
And if you compare our utility to Omaha, Nebraska, where the salary was around the same.
A small town, I mean a big town maybe in Nebraska, but small compared to Los Angeles.
And so to me, I want to get the best talent around the nation.
And we did a national search and that's what it took.
She took a significant pay cut to come to work for Los Angeles.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
All right, lady, there's so much confusion there.
She is the water chief.
And what you just said is she's not particularly good at managing water.
And she took a little bit of a pay cut to come to L.A. Are you telling me water chiefs all over the country are making over 700 grand a year?
That is completely insane.
No civil servant, no one that works for the government should be making 700 grand a year.
I'm pretty sure that most people in America, if they were making 300 grand with a high-pressure job, would be pretty happy.
$700,000 a year.
Completely absurd.
And I don't care about a tear in anything and why the water wasn't in there and it wasn't done in time.
It's the perfect answer.
When you think of what a, like, just a bureaucratic middle management, sort of, when people talk about the deep state, it's not just this, like, perpetual thing that stays there, but it's also that these people, it's just like a bunch of inept people who run cover for inept people.
So don't give me an explanation that there was a rip in something and it was drinking water and we weren't paying attention.
Well, you knew fire season was coming.
And maybe you needed to work a little harder.
And I would imagine that for 700 grand a year, maybe she could have come in on a Saturday and seen what she could have done.
But let's jump over to New York City because, of course, it's not just Los Angeles.
Here is New York City Councilwoman Althea Stevens.
And she is very upset with the New York City Police Department because, yeah, racism.
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And just the last thing, this isn't a question, this is a comment.
I know the police's feelings on the gang database and how, you know, they feel that it can be improved.
I just, again, I'm just always going to stand on the side of...
A broken clock could be right twice a day.
And things like that just have to go because it stems from racism.
And I know that you feel very differently, but that's just not going to change it.
And I know it's in your testimony.
I was not going to bring it up, but because you brought it up, I'm going to bring it up.
And so I know we have conversations coming up to talk about how you feel about it, I feel about it, but I just have to say it because you brought it up, and so I just brought it up.
So that's it.
Thank you guys so much.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
All right, you might go, what the hell is this woman talking about right there?
What she seems to be upset by is that the NYPD, when they're looking into gangs, which are often race-based, you're going to have a black gang, you might have a white gang, that would be the scariest of all gangs, you might have a Latino gang or some other sort of gang, that they're mentioning race when they're talking about the gangs.
Now, of course, if you were someone that cared about the citizens of the city, you might go, well, we need to know their race so we know who they are.
They don't, as I often say, walk around with laminated cards.
You use characteristics to describe people so the police can do their job.
But it's really interesting because she basically is like, a clock is right twice a day, but the system is broken.
And that's why they want to burn down the whole system.
If a gang member, let's say, mugs a pregnant woman and attacks somebody and steals some s*** from somebody, and steals some stuff from somebody, it doesn't matter what race they are, but it might...
So they are always just obsessed with the wrong thing.
And now, what's beautiful about all this, because we wanted to end the show on a positive note, and we're almost there, is that as people see the craziness that we've illustrated here, the nonsense from Ana Navarro, the endless cries of racism, all of this stuff, more and more people are waking up and pushing against it.
And we've also seen the great migration in the United States.
Sane people are leaving blue states.
Sane people are really leaving blue cities.
And unfortunately, that will ultimately Leave us with a very, very different looking country, depending on where you live, but that also is the beauty of federalism and states' rights.
Here's Jamie Dimon on how Democrats are mismanaging blue cities, and they basically are punishing success.
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Just a list of stuff.
Okay, we have to acknowledge the grievances that have put us in this position to start with, and they're real.
Okay, immigration, what the hell are we doing?
You know, the bottom 20% of our population, you know, their wages didn't go up for 20 years.
They're dying seven years younger.
You know, when administrations, you know, the Biden administration is giving all this money to EVs and cars and wasting a lot of money on green stuff, which isn't going to work, and all that.
Do you think people in rural cities, do you think people in inner cities, Thought they were getting anything?
Do you think that those people think that the American government is fair and competent and that this was in their best interest?
Their schools don't work.
They're not getting the skills they need.
And you heard that just now.
So we've got to acknowledge.
And I also call it blue tape.
Because, you know, Republicans, you generally don't like red tape.
You understand the devastation of it.
But, you know, most Democrats, they love it.
They want more of it.
And they want to make it so confusing you can't even meet the rules, so you get punished and fined afterwards.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
What I say earlier about common sense that now fits into the wide tent MAGA thing, people have just had it with this nonsense.
People have had it with telling you that That boys are girls.
That an open border makes sense.
That defending terrorism is somehow good.
Like, people have had it with all of that.
People have had it with the idea that just because you don't like, as I said earlier, you don't like what's happening half a world away, you can attack and murder American citizens.
Enough of all of it.
And what we need right now is enough Americans to at least be aimed towards something true and real, which is exactly what our founders aimed us at and then gave us the documents to hopefully over generations free us.
If we can do that, we will be fine.
But I didn't want to end the show on a purely political moment in this truly magical place that I am in right now.
I wanted to end it on a bit more of a spiritual note.
So Jordan Peterson, one more time.
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There's a paradox in the notion of whether we can know God exists and the paradox is in part, And so can you know that something exists that you can't understand?
And the answer is, well, maybe that's why you only see God's back in some real sense, right?
You get hints.
And maybe you get hints if you open yourself up in the right way.
And one of the ways you open yourself up in the right way is not to ask for what you want in the God is a celestial butler manner, but the...
And then what do you find when you do that?
When you embrace responsibility, what you find is meaning, which is a route to the divine.
Well, the secularists would say, well, without God, you could still find meaning in service to others.
And I would say, yes, that's true.
But the reason you find meaning in the service to others is because that's one step on the ladder to the divine.
Well, Nietzsche said, God is dead, and what's going to happen?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼
Man.
That is as good as it gets.
If you can't truly know God in some sense and you're always looking at His back in some way, but if you're aiming the right way and you're orienting yourself more towards the truth, then ultimately you can build a better world.
You can build a better place.
Meaning will sprout from that.
Ironically, or maybe not ironically, I mean, that's been a theme amongst my guys since we've been here.
We keep making a joke about it, but it's like it does feel like God lives here.
There's been a lot of strange coincidences that have popped up.
We've all had just sort of odd moments, particularly in this city.
And at a scalable level, if our societies start doing that, put down, at the very least, put down all of the lies.
Enough.
It's been enough.
You guys had at it for a while.
We acquiesced.
We let you guys, we let the foxes into the hen house, as I said earlier.
We let you in.
No more.
We gotta get over it.
There's serious stuff happening in the world, and if enough of us at least aim that way.
Then we probably can fix it.
And then you won't need politicians to save you.
Maybe there is a higher authority that we should all be thinking about.
All right, that is the Rubin Report for today.
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