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March 12, 2025 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin

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The Exact Moment Bernie Has His Socialist Dream Crushed Into Dust

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unidentified		Music.
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dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Hello, I'm Dave Rubin.
		This is the Rubin Report.
		It is March 12, 2025. We are live streaming on your computer, your telephone, and your...
		Other device that you have, and I don't even know what it is.
		As we always do, we have a postgame show, rubenreport.locals.com.
		After the program today, we've got a big show for you, and we have a halftime guest at about 11.30, Ezra Levant, the founder and creator of Rebel News up in Canada, who is actually a true journalist.
		Usually when I say the word journalist, I have to put air quotes around it.
		These people are activists, not journalists.
		Ezra is doing an incredible amount of journalism, not just in Canada, but literally all over the world.
		And obviously there's a lot of change happening in Canada right now with Justin Trudeau stepping down as prime minister.
		They've brought in a new guy as head of the Liberal Party and prime minister.
		We'll talk a little bit about that.
		We'll talk about the...
		What can you call it?
		The brewing trade war, let's say, between Canada and the United States.
		And will Canada be the 51st state?
		We shall see.
		So we'll do that at about 11.30.
		We're going to start with some socialists, some old socialists here in America, like Bernie Sanders.
		We'll talk a bit more about Ukraine.
		There's a peace deal basically arriving at the desk of Putin as we speak, and a whole bunch more.
		So let's just dive right into it.
		Bernie Sanders.
		You know Bernie Sanders.
		He talks like this.
bernie sanders ▲ ● ▼		He's kind of like...
unidentified		He's choking on a piece of corned beef and complaining about America all the time.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		He's a socialist.
		He has three houses.
		He's a millionaire.
unidentified		The revolution's going to eat him, but he's still doing it, and he's whatever.
unidentified		Okay.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		He went on one of these podcasts with one of these people that can't get a boner, and they talked about how scared they are about everything.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		There was also, like, there was a gravity in your voice.
unidentified		In a way that I maybe hadn't heard before.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if you agree with that.
bernie sanders ▲ ● ▼		These are the scariest times in my lifetime.
		That's all.
		I think that's objectively the truth.
		It is not just they want to give tax breaks to billionaires and cut programs for working people.
		Frankly, that's happened before.
		But you combine that with the power of the oligarchy in general.
		You combine that with Mr. Musk owning Twitter and able to send out his messages to hundreds of millions of people.
		You combine that with the fact that people like Bezos, the second wealthiest person in the country, fired or got rid of most of his editorial staff and is going to convert him into a right-wing thing.
		Combine that with the fact that Trump is suing major media outlets and is threatening to investigate PBS and NPR. So it's not only the power of money, it's also combined with that, the movement toward authoritarianism.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right, so before we do the analysis, and I promise you that we will do analysis of all of the bullet points that he just laid out there.
		He's very scared.
		He's very, very scared.
		Can we just throw to a screenshot of that?
		Just everything about this, the color, the body language of the interviewer and Bernie, like this sort of just pathetic...
		Asexual, low-testosterone nothingness.
		That's why they depend on the government.
		Because they're not men.
		They're not real people who want to go out and do anything for themselves.
		There is some connection there.
		I think you can just see it.
		You really can just see it.
unidentified		With the body language like this.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		So why is Bernie so scary?
		Well, first off, people are getting tax breaks.
		That is very, very scary.
		Because Bernie is a good man.
		And Bernie wants more of your money to do what he wants with your money because he's a good man, right?
		Bernie, you're a good socialist.
		He's also very worried because Elon Musk owns Twitter and can get his message out there.
		Now, first off, Elon could get his message out there before owning Twitter.
		But what was happening before Elon owned Twitter is we know that Twitter was working with the government.
		It is a 100% fact to silence people.
		To shadow ban people, to censor people, to eliminate accounts, and a whole bunch of stuff that we probably don't even know.
		He wasn't...
		Really fearful of that.
		So that's kind of interesting.
		You're very concerned about corruption, but not when the government is working with giant corporations to silence the American people, which ironically is fascism, and you're always calling everyone fascist.
		So you're 0 for 2 there, Bernie.
		He's also concerned that Jeff Bezos fired some of the staff over at Washington Post, and now they'll become a right-wing paper.
		Well, first off, there's no evidence that the Washington Post is becoming a right-wing paper.
		From everything I've seen over the last couple of weeks, they're as bad as they've always been, but he did.
		I did say that editorially they are going to defend capitalism and free markets.
		That's well within their right.
		And it's within Bezos' right, as the man who owns the paper, to select what direction they want to go in.
		But unfortunately, again, when it was going the other way, when they were pushing all of the woke crap and chopping off kids' genitals and America's evil and racist and capitalism is bad and socialism is great, that was good for old Bernie.
		So Bernie, you're 0 for 3. Trump is going to investigate NPR. Oh, shit.
		I just, I pooped in my pants.
		I'm sitting in poop right now.
		That's how scared I am.
		Just kidding.
		Bernie's sitting in poop, though, obviously.
		Like, obviously.
		He's worried about that.
		Bernie was also alive during 9-11.
		Wasn't that a little scarier, Bernie?
		I know you weren't in New York City.
		I was in New York City.
		When two planes hit the towers and thousands of people were killed and felt like America was hanging on by a thread, that was pretty scary.
		Bernie was alive during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
		That seemed pretty scary.
		We could probably go through some other things that would be pretty scary.
		But Bernie is very scared because free speech is back.
		And what he's really scared of.
		And this is the end of an old socialist.
		What do you get at the end of an old socialist?
		Well, because socialism never works, you get a bitter old person clinging onto ideas that are utterly irrelevant.
		Alas, he doesn't have much to worry about because he is a millionaire with three houses, so he'll be okay.
		But let's shift over to some other Democrats.
		There's this chick, Elisa Slotkin.
		She's a congresswoman over in Michigan.
		And nobody heard of this woman until a week ago.
		And after Trump's speech in front of Congress and the Senate, Elisa came out and they gave her the rebuttal.
		And it was like, they just don't know who to choose.
		So they just picked someone that no one had ever heard of.
		She's not particularly bright or good or anything else.
		Anyway, she...
		We went on The View.
		I'm sorry.
		I'm sorry.
		I read the comments.
		I read some of the comments every day.
		That's what I do when I'm at lunch.
		I try not to read comments like too much, but when I have lunch after the show, I quickly glance in and I know, and there's this constant struggle.
		Dave, we hate the women of The View.
		We're addicted to the women of The View.
		How many times do you have to show it?
	Please keep showing us more.
	It's tough.
	Anyway, Elisa Slotkin went on The View and basically mocked the hell out of you.
unidentified		I think there's a feeling in the country, and I often say this, we're about to turn 250 years old, right?
		We're still pretty young for a country.
		These are our angry teenage years, right?
		We are going through this push and pull where we're happy, we're sad, we want this, we want that.
		And what do you do when you have a teenager who's threatening themselves and others?
		You just try to get them through this period alive so that their brain can fully form and you can come back to kind of what a country...
		No, I'm talking about our country.
		We're pendulum swinging.
		We're pendulum swinging.
		And so, for me, I don't think there's a single American who feels like this is normal.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I feel like it's pretty normal.
		Having some transparency in government.
		We're figuring out where fraud is.
		We're protecting the border.
		We're saying that men are men and women are women.
		And I'm bringing peace to...
		Ukraine and Russia and a bunch more.
		But she wants you to think that you're a child, right?
		You're a child.
		Now, she is right about one thing.
		The 250 years, we're going to hit our 250th anniversary in two years.
		We're pretty young as a country, actually.
		And many countries don't make it to 250, and many don't make it beyond 250. And we should be very aware of that.
		But if you're concerned about children whose brains aren't fully formed, if you're worried about teenagers running the show, you need only look at your party, right?
		It's your party who's constantly acting like children and talking about burning it down and why the whole thing was bad from the beginning and obliterating facts and using authoritarian means to inject people with stuff, et cetera, et cetera.
		I sense a future.
		For that woman on The View, actually, because she's so muddled that it would just be perfect.
		So just to illustrate it again, guys, it's not that we are children.
		It's suddenly the country is acting like adults and the children are upset about it.
		We will have more on that in a moment.
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		Alright, so while we're being called children, we're children, we're angry teenagers, we don't know how to control our emotions, what actually is happening is that the adults are in charge again.
		Here's Exhibit 42A regarding the border.
jacqui heinrich ▲ ● ▼		Let's bring in Paul Perez, National Border Patrol Council President.
		Paul, I want to read for our audience just some of these stats.
		The total number taken in, 646. Of them, 543 were criminal aliens.
		Seven were documented gang members.
		And the ICE Houston agent said in just a week they executed 71 criminal arrest warrants and made 554 administrative arrests that included illegally present human smugglers, gang members, human traffickers, child sex offenders, drug traffickers and weapons traffickers.
		That's a lot.
		How are the cartels responding to all of that?
unidentified		Well, they're going to get more aggressive, and that's only one week of doing this.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Imagine four years.
unidentified		We're going to put a dent in what President Biden did to this country by allowing everybody to come in.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Unvetted, all the criminals, cartel members.
		And so that's just one step.
		That's the first step in the first six weeks.
		So it's going to get a lot better for us.
		That, ladies and gentlemen, is the adults being in charge.
		That was just Houston.
		That's what they were talking about.
		And that was just one week.
		By the way, Houston, that's Al Green.
		That's Al Green's district.
		Al Green, the pimp with the cane, who doesn't shave properly, who was yelling at Trump during the big speech.
		That's Al Green's department over there.
		Do you think Al Green was going to do anything about the illegals that were there?
		I don't think so.
		But the adults are in charge.
		So we are removing illegals, we are removing criminals, sending them back to where they came from.
		Thus, we can focus on the citizens of the United States of America.
		I was trying to speak slowly there in case any of the children that Lee Slotkin was talking about were watching, but I know I don't have to do that for you.
		Benny Johnson put this up.
		Breaking.
		The Trump administration pauses all federal funding to Maine universities for refusing to ban men from women's sports.
		So this is obviously the next big fight.
		Maine is one of the few states that is refusing to go along with this executive action.
		This is basic stuff.
		Again, I don't even want to bother doing the...
		You know, like the asterisk, treat these people with respect and everything else.
		I would prefer that men not kick the shit.
		That's the policy of the federal government.
		Maine wants to go the other way.
		Okay, you're not getting our cash.
		There you go.
		Let's jump over to the televised mental institution known as MSNBC. They are very upset that they are cutting jobs over at the Department of Education.
		Note, they never tell you what these people were actually doing for a living, but them losing a job is very upsetting.
unidentified		The Department of Education under Donald Trump is planning to terminate about 50 percent, that's half, of its current staff.
		The plan is to place many people on administrative leave starting next Friday.
		Officials tell NBC News that the career staff will be asked to basically take laptops home, work from home tomorrow.
		This could lead to over 2,000 career employees getting termination.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Oh dear.
		Oh, dear.
		What will the Department of Education do?
		That means there's 4,000 people, roughly, that work at the Department of Education.
		I've walked by the Department of Education many times when we're in D.C. It's a big building.
		Basically, nobody's there like in most of the big buildings in D.C. That's one of the strangest things about going to D.C. every time I go.
		It's changing a little bit now because they're bringing people back to work.
		But post-COVID, you have these massive, massive, giant buildings in D.C., and it's just basically a ghost town.
		There's no lights on anywhere.
		There's no commerce on the streets.
		There's no people walking around.
		That's one part.
		But okay, so 4,000 people work at the Department of Education.
		Do you think that the Department of Education, whatever it does, do you think they need 4,000 people to do it?
		So that's why when they analyze this stuff on MSNBC, what they want you to do is just feel emotion, right?
		So the emotion is, my God, they're firing 2,000 people.
		That's half the workforce.
		That's very scary.
		They're mean.
		And what are we going to do about those people?
		They never tell you.
		Well, what do those people do?
		Have they been coming to work?
		Is the Department of Education doing its proper job?
		Are they...
		Within their budget, and does any of it make sense to have a centralized system or anything else?
		Well, new head of the Department of Education, Secretary Linda McMahon, who is the wife of Vince McMahon, who, of course, basically, he's the son of original Vince McMahon, who created the WWE, WWF, Hogan, Andre.
		Who's a wrestler now?
		Rey Mysterio?
		Rey Mysterio?
		Didn't that guy fight Spider-Man in one of the movies?
		Or that's just regular Mysterio?
		All right, we got a Rey Mysterio now.
		Anyway, they've done a lot of stuff.
		They got a lot of money.
		Linda's taking this job, literally, she said, so she can put herself out of work to basically blow apart the Department of Education.
		And here she is laying out what would make more sense post-centralized D.C. Department of Education.
unidentified		This is a new world for you, this education department.
		How shocked were you?
		If at all, about how swampy it really is.
		Well, this is my fifth day on the job.
		And so, you know, I did serve in the first administration at SBA. But so when I got to the Department of Education, the president said, look, I need an executive.
		I need a leader in the department.
		And so when I got there and I found out, I said, OK, we have to identify where the bloat is, where the bureaucracy is, and let's start.
		We're going to start there.
		Because the programs, so many of the programs are really excellent.
		We need to make sure that that money does get to the states.
		But we want more money to be able to go to the states.
		And that's what the president said all along.
		If we get rid of the bureaucracy, the states will get more.
		It'll go directly into the states.
		Block grants to states.
		Perhaps block grants without so many strings and red tape attached to it.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		So what do you have there?
		You have a lady who obviously is competent and qualified, someone who has helped as CEO run a business that is worth billions and billions of dollars over the last couple decades.
		She's been intimately involved in all this.
		How intimately involved has she been in it?
		Connor, can you show me something just to really illustrate how intimately involved this woman has been in running successful businesses?
		And you guys complain when I bitch slap you after one of our team meetings.
		It's really ridiculous.
		But okay, the point is, guys, you get it.
		She's created something of value, and now she's going in there, and they're looking at who's doing their work here.
		What is it that we're all doing?
		How about we don't do this top-down thing where the federal government is telling all the states what to do, but we kick it back to the states so states can make decisions as it pertains to education.
		There's more money in the states.
		And then it makes...
		We all know why it makes...
		Why a bottom-up system makes more sense.
		I have just been told, by the way, that Logan Paul, I guess, is big in the WWE right now.
		That is wild to me, but I guess times are a changer.
		Do we have that other video by any chance yet?
		Do we have the other?
		We don't have the other thing.
		All right, I'm working on one other WWE thing for you.
		But let's jump over to more of the waste in government that is going away.
		This is from Chief Nerd over on the X. The National Institute of Health, NIH, is abruptly terminating at least 33 research grants for projects studying why some people are hesitant to receive vaccines.
		An additional nine grants may be modified or cut back.
		Scientists who received these grants began to receive termination letters this evening.
		A person with direct knowledge of the situation So again, you know, it's interesting.
		I actually do believe that there is value in the government funding science for the purpose of science.
		It's an interesting debate, right?
		So you can have science that is, you know, focused on like a specific thing, like we're specifically funding vaccines.
		You might say, well, why would we have NASA? Why are we looking into the stars?
		What is the direct relevance and value for the American people?
		I believe, I actually do believe, there is some value and you can figure out, should it be public?
		Should it be private?
		Should it be some combination thereof?
		Something like that.
		But I believe some money could go to pure...
		Pure pursuit of science.
		If you want more of a debate on that, watch the movie Contact with Jodie Foster and Matthew McConaughey by the great Carl Sagan, directed by Robert Zemeckis, who did Back to the Future, by the way.
		There's a little moment where they debate that sort of thing.
		But the point here is, we are cutting, we're looking at the things that we have just poured money into for no reason.
		And I'm sorry, scientist who works at the NIH. You getting money for your research as to why people were skeptical of vaccines, well, I... I was skeptical of the vaccine because you guys kept telling me to inject myself with it while you were telling me to stay at home and telling me that if I stood up at a restaurant, I had to wear a mask.
		But if I sat down at a restaurant, I didn't have to wear a mask.
		So I was a little skeptical.
		I don't know how many millions of dollars you need to figure that out.
		We've got a bit more on just the overhaul of everything happening with the government right now.
		This is from new head of the DNI, Tulsi Gabbard.
		Per President of the United States Directive, I have revoked security clearances and barred access to classified information for Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, Lisa Monaco, Mark Zaid, Norman Eisen, Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, and Andrew Weissman, along with the 51 signers of the Hunter Biden disinformation letter, the president's daily brief is no longer being provided to President Biden.
		So again, guys, whether it's cutting employees at the Department of Education, Or cutting waste over at the NIH, or the head of DNI revoking access to people who don't deserve access anymore, people who blatantly lied to destroy lives,
		those 51 former intelligence officials who all said that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian misinformation after we had done the whole Russia collusion thing, which then led the government to work with Twitter to silence the New York Post from even putting up their article.
		Which all turned out to be true.
		Ironically, we started this show with Bernie saying how he's very worried about Twitter now because of Elon.
		He again was not worried about it when it was pushing Russian misinformation or hiding links that it didn't want being seen.
		I think you get the point.
		We've got more here from Eric Daughtry just in.
		The American gas prices for March fell to their lowest point since March 2021, so that is a good sign.
		Look, we all know, I referenced it yesterday, we all know the economy is in a transition phase right now.
		Look, if you've got any money in the stock market, you're probably not thrilled right now.
		It's hurting just a bit.
		But as Trump pointed out, we're going through a transition.
		We're going through some pain points here, but there is a lot of good evidence, not just what we just read on gas prices.
		Check this out from NWokeness.
		Border crossings down 93%.
		Eggs now down $1.83 per dozen.
		Gas prices continue falling.
	Inflation down to 1.35%.
	Job growth 93% private, right?
	So private, that's what you want in a healthy economy.
	Zelensky caves to the U.S. Ontario caves to the U.S. And the media is, as he put it in there, in emoji form, sleeping on all of that.
	We will have more on Canada because there is a whole situation.
	Will they be one of the United States of America's great states?
	We'll find out in a moment with my friend Ezra Levant from Rebel News.
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	Before we bring on the esteemed Ezra Levant, CEO of Rebel News, we just did talk about Linda McMahon.
	I made some strange wrestling references.
	Apparently Logan Hall?
	What the hell's his name?
	Logan Paul.
	Logan Paul is the big WWE guy now.
	Here's 10 seconds.
	This is quite graphic if you got the right clip.
	But it's one of my favorite moments of the WWE back in the day.
	It was called the WWF. Jake the Snake Roberts, who was my favorite wrestler, he unleashed not his regular snake, his regular python snake on Macho Man.
	Randy Savage.
	He busted out the King Cobra.
	Watch this.
unidentified		Look at that.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Ezra Levant, welcome to the Rubin Report.
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		Dave, great to see you.
		Thanks for having me on.
		I never thought I'd see it, but Canada and the U.S. are getting into fisticuffs.
		That is a very un-Canadian thing to happen.
		Trudeau's gone.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Well, in this situation right now, we are Jake the Snake Roberts, and we are unleashing the cobra on you people, a tied-up macho man, Randy Savage, who will have to sit there.
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		When you say you people, Canadians are not normally referred to as you people.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's funny.
		I was on Piers Morgan two days ago, or was it yesterday?
		And I said you people.
		I was talking to this girl who's a communist, Brianna something, and I said you people talking about communists.
		So, of course, all the people on Twitter were saying that I was racist.
		You know, whatever.
		Okay.
		Anywho, it's just another day and another false cry of racism.
		Ezra, it's good to see you.
		There's a lot going on that we've been covering as it relates to American-Canadian relations.
		So I want to start, I'm going to read a tweet from Donald Trump, have you respond to that, and then we'll just dive into absolutely everything.
		Are we going to have electricity in Canada?
		We'll find out.
		Or in America?
		We'll find out.
		But here's what Trump said yesterday.
		Based on Ontario, Canada, placing a 25% tariff on electricity coming into the United States, I have instructed my Secretary of Commerce to add an additional 25% tariff to 50% on all steel and aluminum coming into the United States from Canada, one of the highest tariffing nations anywhere in the world.
		This will go into effect tomorrow morning, March 12th.
		Also, Canada must immediately drop their anti-American farmer tariff of 250 to 390 percent on various U.S. dairy products, which has long been considered outrageous.
		I will shortly be declaring a national emergency on electricity within the threatened area.
		This will allow the U.S. to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada.
		If other egregious long-time tariffs are likewise dropped by Canada, I will substantially increase.
		On April 2nd, the tariffs on cars coming into the U.S., which will essentially permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada.
		Those cars can easily be made in the USA.
		Also, Canada pays very little for national security, relying on the United States for military protection.
		We are subsidizing Canada to the tune of more than $200 billion a year.
		Why?
		This cannot continue.
		The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished 51st state.
		This would make all tariffs and everything else totally disappear.
		Canadians' taxes will be substantially reduced.
		They will be more secure militarily and otherwise than ever before.
		There would no longer be a northern border problem.
		And our greatest and most powerful nation in the world will be bigger, better, and stronger than ever.
		And Canada will be part of that.
		The artificial line of separation drawn many years ago will finally disappear, and we will have the safest and most beautiful nation anywhere in the world.
		And your brilliant anthem, O Canada, will continue to play, but now representing a great and powerful state within the greatest nation that the world has ever seen.
unidentified		Thank you.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Hello, my American friend.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		What do you have to say about all that?
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		There's a couple things going on.
		This all started in November when Trump tweeted, hey Mexico, hey Canada, by the time I'm inaugurated in January 20th, can you please help me with two crime problems?
		A lot of drugs coming in from your countries, a lot of illegals.
		And he added an or else.
		He said, or else we'll put on tariffs.
		But he really wanted to focus on those two things, which are such core campaign promises for Trump.
		Stop the fentanyl.
		Stop the illegal migration.
		And in Canada, there was a moral hazard at play.
		Dave, the thing is Justin Trudeau was on his way out.
		So he didn't – He didn't have the same interests as Canada, certainly not the same interests as Trump.
		He would rather not get a deal and go out as Captain Canada fighting against Trump.
		So Trump thought, oh, these guys will say yes to strengthening the border, cracking down on fentanyl, cracking down on illegal immigration.
		That's so easy for them to do.
		It's in their interest anyways.
		That was just a flourish.
		It was an exclamation point, the tariff thing.
		But to Trudeau...
		And Trudeau 2.0, who just took over yesterday, it was the opposite.
		It's in their personal and political interest to not get a deal with Trump.
		And as crazy as it sounds, the more punishing Trump's tariffs are on Canada, the better it suits them to say we're the anti-Trump defenders.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So you've mentioned a few things here that I want to hit, Conor.
		I'm going to switch the order on you a little bit because Ezra went in a slight...
		I want to mention Mark Carney, who now is the Prime Minister of Canada.
		So he's the leader of the Liberal Party.
		Justin Trudeau has stepped down.
		And I want to show you this video that Pierre...
		I always pronounce his name wrong.
		Pollyve?
		Pollyve.
		Jordan Peterson always says it's spelled perfectly so that everyone will mispronounce it.
		Pierre Pollyve.
		Who is the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada.
		He put this video up of Mark Carty-Tigela.
unidentified		I'm trying to explain a bit of how the economy works.
		Thank you so much.
		Well, it may help.
		Our economy is stronger than the American economy in the medium term.
		Our economy was weak before we got to the point.
		Of these threats from President Trump.
		I'm trying to explain it.
		Okay, but you acknowledge that the consumer would pay more at some point.
		Well, the consumer is already paying more.
		Just to be clear, the consumer is already paying more.
		How the economy works.
		What the big companies are producing, by and large, are not products that we are consuming.
		There's some element of that, but by and large, you know, a steel company, how much steel are you using these days, Todd?
		I'm trying to explain a bit of how the economy works.
		Biggest supplier of semiconductors.
		We supply almost all their semiconductors.
		Everybody in the White House is a tech pro except for Trump.
		They all need semiconductors.
		They all come from Canada.
		Maybe they won't.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		How much steel do you use on a day-to-day basis, Ezra?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		That was a hell of an argument.
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		Well, as you can see, I'm a big user of forks and knives.
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		But I'm an anomaly.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		But this guy, I mean, look, we've been joking about Trudeau for years.
		He's done so many horrible things to your country.
		I have so much love and affection for Canada and Canadians.
		And I love going up to Canada.
		And, you know, I'm here in Florida where we have so many of your snowbirds that come down here.
		And I just love the Canadian spirit and sense of humor.
		But it seems to me you might have gotten even worse with this guy.
		He looks a little bit more sane, or his affect is a little bit more sane, but it seems like it's going to be the same result.
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that clip you played is more goofy and flip-floppy, and it's not as ominous.
		Let me tell you a few things about Mark Carney that actually scare me more than some of the goofy things he said about not using steel or Canada as a semiconductor, you know, superconductor giant.
		It's not.
		But those are almost in the way of, like, spelling potato wrong or something.
		But here's what scares me.
		He's a board member of the World Economic Forum.
		That's his haunt.
		He was a senior guy there.
		He's a globalist with three passports.
		He left Canada decades ago to become the head of the central bank in England.
		And I don't know why he needs three passports.
		I don't think he's lived in Canada in more than 10 years.
		His wife continues to live and work in New York City.
		I think that's actually where he hangs out.
		He was installed.
		As our Prime Minister, no Canadian has ever voted for him.
		He's never won elected office.
		The vote that put him in, children as young as 14 were allowed to vote in the Liberal primary.
		Foreign citizens were allowed to vote.
		So this guy was immediately catapulted to Prime Minister.
		He hasn't been vetted.
		We know next to nothing about him.
		He's made public statements about he's going to double down on woke.
		He's not going to follow America's path.
		Close friends with China.
		He used to run a mini BlackRock called Brookfield Asset Management, where he would push ESG into any companies they manage.
		It was like Larry Fink of BlackRock, just a little bit smaller.
		So this guy is, I would say the closest comparison is Larry Fink of BlackRock.
		BlackRock mini called Brookfield.
		Just acquired Canada.
		And I think they did it with the help of the Chinese government.
		I know that sounds crazy, but let me put my theory out there.
		400,000 people registered to vote in the Liberal Party primary.
		That's a good number.
		Two-thirds of them were disqualified.
		So Carney won.
		Based on a third of the vote.
		We don't know who was disqualified.
		Was it a foreign operation?
		The CCP has tried to interfere in Canadian elections before, according to our own spy agency called CSIS. So we know so little about Carney.
		The vote process that catapulted it into the prime ministership was opaque.
		There's so many strange things about it, but there's one thing we know.
		He is smarter than Trudeau.
		He looks better than Trudeau.
		He's not as goofy as Trudeau.
		And it is in his interest to fight with America.
		But it's not in Canadians' interest.
		That's what I'm scared of, Dave.
		I don't want...
		Trump versus Carney to become like Trump versus Trudeau, and the collateral damages the relationship between our two countries.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's talk about that for a second, because nobody dislikes Canada.
		Nobody.
		And I don't think Donald Trump dislikes Canada.
		And we'll get to some of his other statements in a second.
		But this tension, it feels like there's a certain set of people that do want this tension between our countries.
		To me, reordering some of our deals so that we're not, you know, being hit so hard economically while we do so much for you makes full sense.
		What do you think is the way, what's the off-ramp here?
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I have an idea that's sort of flipping the script here.
		And I don't know, about a dozen years ago, I wrote a book defending Canada's oil sands.
		I'm not sure if you know about the oil sands.
		It's actually, there were only...
		Developed about 25 years ago.
		They're the third largest source of oil in the world behind Saudi Arabia and Venezuela.
		It's just north of the border of Montana.
		So you've got all this oil there.
		And let me give you my plan.
		To flip the script, a dozen years ago, the oil sands were under attack by lefties who were anti-oil and anti-carbon.
		And I said, well, guys, using your left-wing values, Canada's oil sands are the fair trade coffee of the world's oil industry.
		You care about peace.
		You care about environmentalism.
		You care about civil rights.
		All those things the oil sands have that Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Venezuela don't.
		That's the left-wing case for the oil sands.
		But now, Dave, I want to talk to you about the America First plan.
		Hear me out.
		Give me 90 seconds.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		You mentioned the $200 billion trade surplus.
		That's oil.
		Number one thing Canada sells to America is oil.
		It's not cars.
		It's not agriculture.
		It's oil.
		And that oil is displacing conflict oil from OPEC. Every barrel of oil you buy from the Canadian oil sands is one fewer barrels you're buying from the mullahs and the terrorists and Venezuela.
		And so right now, Alberta, Canada, the most pro- America Province is your number one source of oil exports.
		I spoke with the Premier of Alberta.
		That's like the Texas of Canada, Danielle Smith.
		She is friendly to America.
		She went down to Trump's inauguration and she says she wants to double the oil production and sell it to America.
		That Keystone XL pipeline could be revived.
		Biden killed it on day one.
		So here's the plan.
		Instead of tariffing the oil sands, which isn't going to work because it's not like a factory that you can move to America.
		The oil sands are where they are.
		And so you put a tariff on that, that's just going to jack up prices for U.S. refineries.
		Here's the plan.
		I call it deal of the century.
		There's 170 billion barrels of oil just sitting there.
		That is enough to, if you double the production, that's enough to last for 50 years.
		It can totally get America off OPEC oil.
		And it's being developed by either American companies or Canadian companies with big U.S. shareholders.
		You don't need to patrol the Persian Gulf sea lanes to protect it.
		And you already have preferential access under the USMCA. So instead of pushing Canadian oil away, maybe into the hands of China, God forbid, pull it all in and say, we want to buy all of it, 50-year deal.
		That's $13 trillion.
		And by the way, Canada, all the money we're going to...
		Pay for this oil.
		We expect you to revitalize your military.
		We expect you to strengthen the border.
		So I say look at it like a real estate tycoon.
		You're looking at Greenland.
		You're looking at Panama.
		You're looking at Gaza.
		That's chump change.
		Get the oil sands.
		Lock it in for 50 years.
		That's my counter plan.
		That's my thesis, Dave.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		And look, if we can't work that out and we don't want all of Canada because, you know, you've got a lot of jihadis in Toronto, we might just take Calgary and Western Canada and we'll get the oil and the freedom-loving people, as you pointed out, who so many of them love America and freedom and all that stuff.
		I want to read this tweet from Charlie Kirk because it's an update on Trump's tweet that we just read a moment ago.
		Breaking four hours after President Trump escalated U.S. tariffs on Canada, Ontario has agreed to suspend its 25% tariff on electricity exports to the U.S. pending negotiations on a renewed USMCA trade deal.
		Translation, Trump's massive retaliation works.
		So it does seem, regardless of any of our positions on tariffs or anything else, it does seem that some of the pressure is getting this to work, right?
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		Well, Doug Ford, who threatened this electricity ban, he's a provincial premier.
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		It's like a state governor.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Here, let me throw up a video of Doug Ford real quick, and then that way you can comment on that directly.
unidentified		The president started this fight.
		So if I'm hearing you're saying you're going to run attack ads, basically, against what he's doing in the States.
		Well, I wouldn't call them attack ads.
		I'm going to call them information ads.
		And they're going to inform the great people of the United States, you know, how it could be.
		And having two great nations, and how it might be if these tariffs continue to go through.
		As far as I'm concerned, it's unacceptable.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Okay, go ahead.
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		You know, Doug Ford, because Trudeau just was swapped out for Mark Carney, there's sort of a political void in Canada right now.
		It would be like switching from Biden to Harris.
		And so Doug Ford, he has no constitutional power to make any deals with America.
		I think he's just taking the opportunity to be the big dog or something in Canada.
		But you can be the biggest dog in Canada.
		You're still a puppy when it comes to the United States.
		I want to get back to...
		You know what I... The analogy I use is Batman and Robin.
		Look, Batman's always going to be bigger and stronger.
		Right now, Batman's giving Robin a noogie.
		And we don't like it.
		But I want to get back to us being allies and friends and partners.
		And the trouble is...
		People like Doug Ford, who we just saw there, people like Mark Carney, people like Justin Trudeau, they would actually prefer to fight for two reasons.
		Number one, Pierre Pauly of the conservative candidate you mentioned, he's good.
		And on a head-to-head matchup, the liberals are going to lose to him.
		However, if the liberals can say, we're campaigning against Trump, only we can save you from Trump, they're going to do a lot better on the polls running against Trump.
		Second thing is...
		Dave, I've got to say, there is and has always been a bit of an anti-American streak in Canada.
		It goes back to Pierre Trudeau, who would pal around with Castro, and he went to the Soviet Union and Communist China.
		So there's always been a bit of an anti-American streak up here, and the media party and the liberal party are tapping into it.
		So you've got these bad actors who have...
		What's called a moral hazard.
		Trump is used to being in a real estate deal where he is willing to walk away and the other guy is desperate for a deal.
		Well, flip that around.
		Trump wants a deal, but the other guys don't.
		Mark Carney, the new Prime Minister of Canada, would rather not get a deal so he can victimize Canada and say, I'm here to rescue you, Canada.
		Only I can defend against the evil Trump.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		It's a good point.
		The pressures that they're under, the levers that they can use are interesting because the lever they can use to gin up the most votes for the Liberal Party might be the most anti-Canadian thing possible.
		It'll keep them in power, but it'll keep Batman giving the noogie to Robin.
		You mentioned Greenland, so I want to show Trump yesterday was asked a bit about what we're doing with Canada, this kind of artificial border we have, and how Greenland could also be in the mix.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		When you take away that artificial line that looks like it was done with a ruler, and that's what it was.
		Some guy sat there years ago and they said, rah.
		Well, when you take away that and you look at that beautiful formation of Canada and the United States, there is no place anywhere in the world that looks like that.
		Plus Greenland.
unidentified		And then if you add Greenland, that's going to look beautiful.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		What do you think, my Canadian friend?
		I mean, it is a straight line that feels like it probably, somebody was looking at a map and literally had a ruler and went like this.
		I mean, a lot of countries are like that.
		When you look at borders, they look kind of weird.
		But then you throw Greenland into the mix.
		Something is brewing here.
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I mean, if you think about the Arctic, China's making a play up there.
		Russia's making a play.
		And I think Trump is cognizant of that.
		And he also knows that America has been footing the bill to defend all of Canada basically throughout the Cold War.
		And Canada has had a free ride.
		It's true.
		All the things Trump's complaining about are legitimate.
		And Canadians should want to do them in our own interest, like beef up our military spending.
		We keep out U.S. dairy and poultry products, which means poor people in Canada have to pay a lot more for their food essentials.
		Rich people can pay double for milk, double for eggs.
		They don't care.
		So we have all these foolish rules.
		Trump wants to sweep him away.
		Here's the thing.
		When you say to someone who's married, hey, come marry me.
		Divorce the guy you're with and marry me.
		That's sort of a shocking thing.
		It's an indecent proposal as the movie with Woody Harrelson is called.
		Now, some people who were thinking, well, I've got to divorce my man anyway, so here's Trump coming to make me...
		When you say, come join America, you're not just saying join America, you're saying leave what you have now.
		And any country is going to have people who are nationalists and patriots, so it's going to hurt the feelings of people.
		It's going to say, that's an outrageous thing to say.
		Now, some Canadians would want that deal, because they think the current deal we have in Canada is sort of a raw deal.
		But here's my idea.
		How about take the best of us and leave the parts you probably don't want?
		You probably don't want an electoral college as big as California that's going to go Democrat most of the time.
		You probably don't want the French-English bilingualism, which is part of our country.
		We've got that French Quarter called Quebec.
		They're wonderful people.
		They like speaking French.
		Imagine that in your Congress.
		So what I would say to people who propose a merger, I'd say, how about...
		Use your USMCA that was negotiated by Trump, has special preference for America.
		What do you really want?
		You want Canada to be strong militarily, to hold its own.
		You want to crack down on the drugs and the illegal immigration.
		You want the oil.
		Pull in the oil.
		Don't let China sniff around there.
		China would love to get that strategic asset.
		Don't let it fall into Chinese hands.
		Take the good stuff.
		Give us enough dough for the oil that we can rearm.
		Some Canadians would love to join America, but you know, it's just a patriotic and nationalistic thing.
		It would be like saying your state should merge with another state.
		A lot of people are affectionate for their state for historical or emotional reasons.
		Now, Trump, listen, he's a hell of a negotiator, and this is how he puts the other side off balance.
		It's just a little weird when it's Canada, your best buddy for the longest time, that's being wobbled a bit.
		That's all that's going on.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All I know is, as I keep saying, I'm down here in Florida where we get a lot of Canadian snowbirds and an awful lot of them suddenly are staying for the summers, too.
		It's one thing when they come for the winters, but when they start staying for the summers, you know something's wrong.
		Ezra, before I let you go, as I described at the top of the show, you are actually a journalist that I don't have to put air quotes around.
		You are out there in all of the hot spots everywhere, whether you're going to the WEF or you're fighting with the Hamas supporters in Toronto or whatever else it is.
		What legal fights are you in right now?
		Is there anything you really want that we can shine a light on for the moment?
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		We've got so many battles.
		I think we have seven different lawsuits against the federal government.
		Almost all of them have to do with censorship or police arresting our journalists.
		We've been arrested five times in the last year just for asking questions.
		They're probably going to ban us from the election debate, so we'll have to go to court again.
		It's just what we do.
		I couldn't even list all of our fights.
		We're a fighting organization because if you believe in freedom, Canada is a battleground.
		My message to you, Dave, never give up your First Amendment.
		Look at Canada as a time machine of what you would be like in five years if you kept going down the road of Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom.
		If you want to know what Canada's like, think of Gavin Newsom.
		That's what Trudeau was like the last nine years.
		So stay on guard.
		You can never get complacent in the fight for freedom, Dave.
		I know you know that.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		You are doing great work, as always, my friend.
		And I think that we may have Danielle Smith on the show in a couple weeks.
		She's coming to Florida.
		We're working on that.
		So we'll continue that conversation.
		I thank you, my friend.
		I wish you good luck up there.
		And if you need any of our American meats or cheeses, I can probably get you something on the side.
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		That sounds great.
ezra levant ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Dave.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		See you, Ezra.
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		All right.
		So moving on from Canada for a moment, let's talk about the other portion of that, which is Greenland.
		It does feel like one way or another, the maps and some of these artificial boundaries are changing.
		Greenland actually just had an election yesterday.
		Check this out from AP News.
		Center-right party wins most votes in Greenland's parliamentary election as Trump seeks control.
		So the center-right party, I'm obviously not an expert in internal Greenland politics, and I won't pretend to be much unlike most of the people that you'll...
		That other people get their news from that will suddenly know everything about internal Greenland politics.
		But the center-right, as you can imagine, in Greenland, they're now more pro-US and kind of anti-Denmark.
		Denmark's running the show in Greenland, so that sort of makes sense.
		Here's a little more on the breakdown of the election.
		This is from early vote data.
		Greenland election update.
		About 70% of the vote is in.
		Democrats in first, then Nalarek and the Unite.
		No, it's Inuit.
		Inuit, right?
		Counting.
		This is what happens.
		Counting is almost done, but they have to certify the results before final approval.
		Final results should come in soon.
		Here is some of the clarification in regards to what each party wants and would likely do.
		The Democrats, who are center-right, are pro-independence but want a slow process, pro-free market economy, cautious of USA Trump but not against doing a deal.
		The party on the right, Nalarek, is pro-independence and want a faster process, pro-USA, pro-deal.
		Slash military protection with the U.S. Inuit is the center incumbent party pro-independence socialist light is the best description that this Twitter account could come up with.
		They want Greenland to be competitive with trade.
		Hard to determine if they would want to deal with the U.S. or Denmark, but the U.S.A. has more money, so it's probably likely.
		Taking that today is my first foray into Greenland politics.
		I could see a bunch of different ruling coalitions developing.
		I think we can leave it there.
		The broader point on this.
		Is that...
		When Trump is now floating this idea of us taking Greenland, there is momentum on the ground for that.
		And the real magic of Trump, as we transition now over to Russia, Ukraine, is that Trump speaks and then the world sort of reorders itself, right?
		What did Trump do just a couple weeks ago?
		He said the U.S. will basically take over Gaza and no more of this bullshit two-state solution.
		the terrorists have gotta go and we can invest in it and it can become this incredible place on the Mediterranean with the same exact beach as Tel Aviv.
		No one was willing to say that before and there are now things in the works to start making that happen.
		Well, Trump also said, "We've got to get peace with Russia, Ukraine.
		Ukraine can't win this war without us.
		Obviously, they had the very testy meeting with Trump and J.D. Vance and Zelensky in the White House about two weeks ago.
	And then what happened yesterday?
	Well, here is new Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
marco rubio ▲ ● ▼		Today we made an offer that the Ukrainians have accepted, which is to enter into a ceasefire and into immediate negotiations to end this conflict in a way that's enduring and sustainable and accounts for their interests, their security, their ability to prosper as a nation.
		I want to personally thank, we both want to thank the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, His Majesty, for hosting us, for making this possible.
		They've been instrumental in this process, and we're very grateful to them for hosting us here today.
		And hopefully we'll take this offer now to the Russians, and we hope that they'll say yes.
		That they'll say yes to peace.
		The ball is now in their court.
		But again, the president's objective here is, number one, above everything else, he wants the war to end.
		And I think today Ukraine has taken a concrete step in that regard.
		We hope the Russians will reciprocate.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Once again, I just want to say on the Marco Rubio note, he was just meant to have this job.
		It's so obvious to me.
		On the specifics of it, look, when that meeting happened, you know, 10 days ago or so, with Trump and Zelensky and J.D. in the White House, and it got real testimony and everything, almost all of the media was going crazy.
		Oh, my God, Trump's operating for the Russians.
		J.D. is awful, and Zelensky is the hero, and we have to relentlessly back him.
		I mean, we played plenty of clips on that sort of thing.
		And then look what has happened now 10 days later.
		Ukraine has agreed.
		To at least the initial version of a ceasefire.
		And now you take it to Russia.
		So the fighting, hopefully, if Russia signs board at least this first stage of a ceasefire, the fighting can pause and they can talk it out.
		Okay, are there going to be territorial concessions?
		What is the map going to look like?
		But at least we're at the beginning of that, and there's going to be less death and destruction.
		That seems good.
		So what Trump did was, hey, the gravy train is over.
		You've got to come to the table.
		And suddenly Ukraine's coming to the table.
		Now, for all the people that think Trump is a Russian stooge, well, now it's on Russia.
		And if Russia says, no, we're not going to talk about a ceasefire, well, then American policy will change accordingly.
		So again, it's good things happening by thinking of things.
		A little bit differently.
		Here's Trump on that.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		But very importantly, and I said it, Ukraine.
		Cease fire.
		Ukraine.
		Cease fire.
		Just agreed to a little while ago.
		Now we have to go to Russia and hopefully President Putin will agree to that also.
		And we can get this show on the road.
		We can get this horrible war where two, three thousand soldiers a week, every week, two, three, four thousand sometimes.
		I get the reports.
		And they're not American soldiers.
		They're Ukrainian and they're Russian.
		But people are being killed outside of that.
		People are being killed in the cities as things explode throughout the cities.
		And we want to get that war over with.
		So I think it's a big difference between the last visit you saw at the Oval Office.
		So that's a total ceasefire.
		Ukraine has agreed to it.
		And hopefully Russia will agree to it.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		You really need to think for a second how clever what Trump did here is.
		You had to get...
		Ukraine to come first, right?
		There was no way we could get enough pressure on Putin to come first, right?
		Because we could have just kept arming Ukraine.
		We could have just created more chaos and everything else.
		But Russia could withstand that chaos.
		To loosely quote Kamala Harris, Russia big, Ukraine small.
		So what he did was, he said to Zelensky, you can't keep doing this.
		Two, three, four thousand soldiers dying on both sides every week, right?
		You can't keep doing this.
		So he got Ukraine.
		To the position that he forced them into saying, we will be for a ceasefire, and Ukraine will probably not get everything it wants.
		And now it's on Russia.
		So finally, the tables have been flipped here in some sense, because now, let's just try to play this out for a second.
		Now, if in a week from now, if Putin's like, no, I'm not going to sit down, I'm not going to talk about a ceasefire, well then...
		It's back on the U.S. to figure out what to do, right?
		But right now, he's put the ball in Putin's court, and Putin will have to decide, do you want peace?
		Do you want some negotiated settlement?
		Do you want to figure out how maybe it keeps NATO off your borders a little bit, that maybe you're going to get some portion of Ukraine?
		Whatever it might be, that's what the negotiations will be about.
		To me, at the moment, they have played this pretty freaking perfectly.
		I want to connect this to one other thing, which is that as we haven't really talked too much about Doge in this show, but as Doge has done, well, we did a little bit with the Department of Education, but as a lot of these jobs are starting to disappear, as we've gone after USAID, as we're uncovering the fraud and everything else, one of the things that's happened is Elon is just getting an insane amount of heat.
		I mentioned it the other day, but...
		I think what's happened here is the machine, basically, and the media have realized they can't destroy Trump in traditional ways anymore, right?
		They've thrown everything at him for years and years and years, and he's still there.
		Then Elon comes in, and the machine, which once loved Elon, now hates Elon.
		And they're going after him, and you can see these paid protesters at these Tesla stores and charging stations all over the country and everything else.
		So Tesla is under full attack.
		That's the one that's kind of easy to attack.
		Starlink, it's like if you were pissed at Starlink, where would you go to be?
		Pissed at them.
		Tesla has locations and chargers all over the place.
		So we're seeing this.
		We know that they're funded by NGOs.
		We read that tweet from Elon yesterday on that.
		So not only did Donald Trump buy a Tesla yesterday, but here is Elon and Trump talking about the future of Tesla.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		What is that?
		Oh, what's Secret Service go crazy?
		How many of you actually drove it around?
unidentified		It would really be wild.
		Wow.
		That's beautiful.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		This is a different panel than I've had.
		Everything's computer.
		That's beautiful.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		President Trump and his administration, and as an act of faith in America, Tesla is going to double vehicle output in the United States within the next two years.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Double.
		By the way, he makes one car.
		This one I don't understand.
		This one I don't want, but that's okay.
		Without a steering wheel.
		It comes out next year.
		Don't explain that, please.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Now, you might watch that.
		I'm going to try to give the devil his due here.
		You might watch that and go, now, this isn't fair.
		Elon's working with Trump, and now Trump is going to help Elon sell more Teslas.
		The Tesla, as I said yesterday, is a beautiful, beautiful piece of machinery that everyone, for the green purposes, it's an electric car, was on board just a little while ago.
		The idea that we would have more Teslas out there and get more combustible engine cars off the streets is good.
		We don't have to use the government to force people to do it, but we can help.
		We can literally, by the president buying one of these things, it can help show people that, oh, there are other ways to get vehicles.
		The other thing that Trump did, and I think this is quite good because we're going to see more of this nonsense.
		This is from Reuters.
		Trump says he will label violence against Tesla dealers' domestic terrorism.
		And again, you might say this is just because they're buddies.
		But no.
		The people that are going after the Tesla charging stations, that are breaking windows at Tesla showrooms, etc., etc., it is domestic terrorism.
		They are using violence for political reasons.
		That is the very definition of domestic terrorism.
		So they should be treated accordingly.
		It's not just some random violent attack.
		It's not just somebody just mugging somebody on the street because they want five bucks.
		They are doing something for political purposes.
		That is what terrorism is.
		And it's, in this case, domestic terrorism, unless we find out that, you know, it's being funded by overseas or something else.
		The interesting part, now I gave you the devil his new version of it.
		The other interesting part on this, check this out.
		Here's Trump talking about how Elon never pressured him.
		Despite the fact that he undid the mandate rollback, he undid the electronic vehicle mandates that Biden put in.
		So in other words, Biden wanted subsidies for electronic cars.
		Trump reversed it.
		And Elon is actually okay with that.
		Never pressured Trump into it.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		I said, I don't like what's happened to you.
		I'm gonna do it.
		I didn't even know he was gonna come.
		He's never asked me for anything.
		He endorsed me and he never asked me.
		I didn't even know he was gonna endorse me.
		The guy has never asked me.
		He's not saying...
		In fact, I could go a step further.
		I ended the electric mandate.
unidentified		Okay?
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		I ended the electric mandate.
		And I figured, when's this guy calling to raise hell with me?
		And he never called.
		I mean, he never called me.
		If I were him, I would have called.
unidentified		Because he's probably even better than I am.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		Do you get that, guys?
unidentified		You can say it's all a show and they planned all this and everything else.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		That's the most cynical version of all of this.
		But the Biden administration put in that electric vehicle mandate so that we would have to have X amount of electric vehicles by a certain year and that we wouldn't be able to make combustion engine cars and everything else.
		Elon never called Trump or has had a word with him.
		I believe it.
		Like, you can just see that it's true.
		He never called him to say, hey, I don't like this.
		Like, that would help Tesla if you kept that mandate in, because Tesla's the number one electronic vehicle car manufacturer in the world.
		It would help him.
		But he did not do that.
		So again, it's like we have this rare, brief moment of good people and innovative thinkers and people who are not afraid to offend the right people.
		In office right now, in power right now, and we better grab the moment.
		Because when you're offending people for the right reasons, it's actually good.
		It's actually how you think.
		Jordan Peterson, ladies and gentlemen.
		In order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
		And that's the point, guys.
		That is the point.
		That we have some people out there.
		Who are putting it on the line.
		And they're thought of as offensive.
		And they're called Nazis and bigots and all of these things.
		And it's costing Elon.
		Tesla's stock is down.
		The market's down altogether.
		But Tesla's stock is down.
		And he doesn't want people showing up to the charging stations and creating violence and breaking windows at the showrooms and all of those things.
		But they're saying some what you would perceive to be offensive things because they're things that need to be said.
		And that is good and that is important and that's where we're at and I suspect will continue.
		Ladies and gentlemen, that is our show for today.
		I thank you for watching.
		We've got a post-game show in 30 seconds.
		RubenReport.Locals.com.
		And we will be back tomorrow.
unidentified		Goodbye.
		If you're vaccinated, you don't have a risk, and that's the reason why we say it's as simple as black and white.
		You're vaccinated, you're safe, you're unvaccinated, you're at risk.
		Simple as that.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I got infected about two weeks ago.

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