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All right, everyone.
dave rubin
It is October 22nd, 2024.
I should say Tuesday, October 22nd, 2024.
And yes, that means we are officially two days, two weeks, I should say, from the big election day.
The day that will decide the fate of Western civilization in all of our lives.
Although we may not know the results that day.
We shall see about that.
As always, I'm Dave Rubin.
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And joining me is special guest co-host today, a GOP spokeswoman and author of Finding My Place, Making My Parents' American Dream Come True, Elizabeth Pipko.
Elizabeth, how are you?
elizabeth pipko
I'm doing okay.
Thanks for having me today.
dave rubin
I am glad to have you.
You are in West Palm right now.
That's Donald J. Trump country.
How's it going there?
Does it smell like McDonald's?
What's happening in West Palm right now?
elizabeth pipko
First of all, it always smells like McDonald's over here in Trump country.
Things are really good.
Look, we're two weeks out, like you said.
The polls have been looking great.
The Really, really good, but also really cautiously optimistic.
I still have a little PTSD from 2020, one of the worst nights of my life in the White House.
So I am hoping for the best in two weeks, but I will not stop working till we have a result, obviously.
dave rubin
So we're going to just dive into a catch up of all of the political craziness and all the usual cast of characters.
But just if we could spend a moment or two, if you could just tell people that don't know a little bit about your history, how you got involved with the GOP, with Trump, etc.
I think maybe that'll help frame what we're going to do today.
elizabeth pipko
Yeah, of course.
My story is a little wonky, but I think it's a cool one.
I grew up in New York City, daughter of Jewish immigrants from the former Soviet Union.
I kind of loved Donald Trump my entire young life, just because I knew who he was as a New York celebrity.
I was a figure skater growing up, which I only got to do because of him operating the Central Park Skating Rink, known as Walmart Rink.
dave rubin
Oh, he saved the rink, yeah.
elizabeth pipko
He did, yeah.
So that's how I knew who Donald Trump was.
And then I was actually wanting to go to the Olympics.
I was training 15 hours a day every day.
I destroyed my ankle.
I was told my life was basically over.
Moved back home to New York.
At that point I was training somewhere else and I was just a depressed young adult who didn't know what to do with her life.
I volunteered for Donald Trump's campaign in 2016 because I knew who he was.
Trump Tower was a few blocks from my house.
My brother told me he was going to be president and I needed something to live for.
A few days after volunteering, I sent a letter to the data director of the campaign saying I wanted to do more.
I ended up with a job on that campaign, brought my brother with me.
I was a part of the small team that made Donald Trump president in 2016.
Then I went back to my normal mainstream life.
I graduated college, got my masters, went back to modeling and some other mainstream things, wrote a few books, and decided I could not stay away from trying to save America.
Went back to some media commentary, political work.
And then when Donald Trump knew that he was running for president again, I kind of got back involved, back in the fold.
And then I was asked by the family actually to be the national spokeswoman for the RNC. After we kind of took over and we switched leadership, obviously Michael Watley and Laura Trump took over and here I am.
dave rubin
Fantastic.
And for people that want to know more, a bit more about that ice skating rink situation, I mean, basically the city of New York, I wrote about this in Don't Burn This Country, the city of New York literally could not repair the rink.
And Donald Trump was like, all right, I've had enough of this.
And he did it at something like 10 or 15% of the cost that the city wanted to do it at.
And they couldn't even do anything with it.
You just mentioned Lara Trump, who's now in charge of the RNC, and she's making the rounds, and I thought we'd start with this today.
She went on The Breakfast Club show.
People know that the host, he calls himself Charlemagne the God.
I cannot call someone God.
I call him Lenny.
So here is Lara making the case for Trump with Lenny, and I think she moved Lenny a little bit.
unidentified
He's a quote-unquote politician.
lara trump
Well, he was friends with everybody.
I mean, I think if you look back at Donald Trump's history, you know, last night we were at the Al Smith dinner and he was right there next to Chuck Schumer and he said to Chuck Schumer, who's obviously a Democrat senator, he said, I gave Chuck his first check ever when he was running for like Assemblyman or something.
Yeah, he was...
charlamagne tha god
That's why Chuck was laughing so hard.
Remember we asked why Chuck was laughing so hard?
Chuck was laughing, boy.
I don't be liking the optics of that.
Only reason I say I don't like the optics of that is because when you hear people like Chuck Schumer say things like, Trump is a threat to democracy, but then you're sitting next to him yucking it up.
Why would you be yucking it up with somebody who you consider a threat to democracy?
lara trump
Well, you have to ask yourself that question, don't you?
Maybe it's all scare tactics.
Maybe it's a lot of fear-mongering, Charlemagne.
What I can tell you is I know Donald Trump.
I have known him for 16 years.
And Chuck Schumer has known him a lot longer than I have.
And I think he knows full well he's not a threat to democracy.
And you don't even have to take my word for it.
Look at what he did when he was in the White House.
dave rubin
Elizabeth, the reason I love that clip is that I think really what's happening here, outside of the purely political part, is the veneer is just being pulled back, or the curtain is being pulled back, and we're all seeing how the game is played, and no one really believes that Chuck Schumer hates Donald Trump, or at least thinks he's Hitler, et cetera, et cetera.
And Trump now has effective surrogates, like Lara, like you, that are making that case, and that's what they're afraid of more than anything else.
elizabeth pipko
Right, and I think the irony also is that Laura Trump was on the show with multiple questions coming her way over the course of the hour that she was there, where she had to kind of defend the fact that Donald Trump is obviously not some crazy racist.
The problem is, much like Chuck Schumer sitting with Donald Trump, knowing that he's not an actual threat to democracy, I don't think If Charlemagne and the others actually thought Donald Trump was this horrible racist, they would or should be inviting his daughter-in-law on their show, right?
So the fact is, every single person is using these scare tactics, probably without even realizing it at this point.
But I don't think if you thought Donald Trump was this horrible racist man, you should be spending any time with his daughter-in-law, especially letting her defend him.
So I don't think they actually think any of these bad things.
I think they are kind of scared of how relatable and down-to-earth and normal Donald Trump actually is, despite the narrative being the opposite of that.
And I think I'm like, I'm happy Charlemagne invited Laura.
I think she did an incredible job.
But I hope more and more people do the research for themselves, take the time to watch interviews like this one to kind of at least feel better about Donald Trump more than likely being the president next year, because he really is the opposite of all the horrible, scary things people like to tell us about him.
dave rubin
Yeah, I think another thing people could do is watch some of the old clips of how people who now will tell you he's a threat to democracy used to talk about him, not just when he's joking while they're sitting next to him.
I think we've shown this on the show once or twice before, but I just love this clip specifically.
This is Donald Trump on Oprah in 1987.
Now, Oprah is one of the celebs kind of leading the anti-Trump charge right now, but listen to how different she was back, you know, 30, roughly 28, 30 years ago.
unidentified
You took out a full-page ad in major U.S. newspapers last year criticizing U.S. foreign policy.
What would you do differently, Donald?
donald j trump
I'd make our allies, forgetting about the enemies, the enemies you can't talk to so easily, I'd make our allies pay their fair share.
We're a debtor nation.
Something's going to happen over the next number of years with this country, because you can't keep going on losing $200 billion And yet we let Japan come in and dump everything right into our markets and everything.
It's not free trade.
If you ever go to Japan right now and try to sell something, forget about it, Oprah.
Just forget about it.
It's almost impossible.
And hey, I have tremendous respect for the Japanese people.
I mean, you can respect somebody that's beating the hell out of you, but they are beating the hell out of this country.
Kuwait, they live like kings.
The poorest person in Kuwait, they live like kings.
And yet they're not paying.
We make it possible for them to sell their oil.
Why aren't they paying us 25% of what they're making?
It's a joke.
unidentified
This sounds like political presidential talk to me, and I know people have talked to you about whether or not you want to run.
Would you ever?
donald j trump
Probably not, but I do get tired of seeing the country ripped off.
unidentified
Why would you not?
donald j trump
I just don't think I really have the inclination to do it.
I love what I'm doing.
I really like it.
unidentified
Also, it doesn't pay as well.
donald j trump
No, it doesn't.
But, you know, I just probably wouldn't do it, Oprah.
I probably wouldn't, but I do get tired of seeing what's happening with this country.
And if it got so bad, I would never want to rule it out totally, because I really am tired of seeing what's happening with this country, how we're really making other people live like kings, and we're not.
unidentified
You've said, though, that if you did run for president, you believe you'd win.
donald j trump
Well, I don't know.
I think I'd win.
I tell you what, I wouldn't go in to lose.
I've never gone in to lose in my life.
And if I did decide to do it, I think I'd be inclined.
I would say that I would have a hell of a chance of winning, because I think people, I don't know how your audience feels, but I think people are tired of seeing the United States ripped off.
And I can't promise you everything, but I can tell you one thing.
This country would make one hell of a lot of money from those people that for 25 years have taken advantage.
It wouldn't be the way it's been, believe me.
dave rubin
So Elizabeth, that is 37 years ago.
There you have, you can see how Donald Trump, his affect has changed and maybe his skin color has changed a little bit.
But the ethos of what he believes in and sort of, he's being very honest.
You can clearly see, you know, 37 years later, what drove him to run for president.
Like that to me is the thing that people are attracted to.
unidentified
Right.
elizabeth pipko
And I think you mentioned Oprah.
I mean, you can look at Oprah and countless others who obviously loved him, wanted him, I think, to run for president and now say horrible things about him.
What's funny is they've obviously changed their mind.
But if you listen to Donald Trump there, if you close your eyes, you wouldn't know if that was 30, 40 years ago, if it was last week, because he actually hasn't changed.
Nothing he stands for has really changed.
And I think it's ironic that that's kind of what we have to prove to people when all these videos exist, right?
He's not some newcomer To the stage.
He's not a politician.
We've known about Donald Trump for many, many decades now.
His views have never changed.
His thoughts have never changed.
And you actually close your eyes and you will not know if you're listening to a speech from last week, last year or 30 years ago.
It's incredible.
And the sad thing is that people somehow get away with saying that he was probably the greatest candidate that, you know, could have ran, someone that they would have loved to support and stand behind and now compare him to people, obviously, like you said, like Hitler.
The proof is kind of in the pudding.
People are as fake as can be, and I hate that we have to even talk about it when everything is on the internet for people to see any time that they'd like to.
dave rubin
With that in mind, was it Hitler working McDonald's the other day or not?
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All right, so it's hard to tell what the most iconic image of Trump during this campaign is.
Like, is it the mug shot?
Is it the actual getting shot?
Is it this right here?
I think it might be this one.
This is Donald Trump waving goodbye.
I mean, it literally looks like that is a custom apron.
The tie, it just works.
His hair is the color of the golden fries.
Elizabeth, we'll get to some of the media reaction on this in just a second.
But to me, this was such a win-win-win.
He loves McDonald's.
He loves the people.
They're like, it was just a win.
And it owned the internet, and it's still owning the internet 24 hours later.
elizabeth pipko
Well, Donald Trump knows better than anyone how to own the internet.
I think most people left or right would agree with that.
Look, he had fun.
It was genuine, right?
People like to talk about these campaign stops being staged.
Obviously, every campaign stop is staged and planned, and Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, to everyone in between.
But the fact is, everyone knows that Donald Trump loves McDonald's.
Everyone knows that he gets it on his plane.
He gets it whenever he can.
He's a big supporter.
And everyone also knows that Donald Trump loves doing these kind of things, loves talking to everyday Americans.
Everything that people saw there from making the french fries to working the drive-thru window to putting on that apron, that was genuine Donald Trump.
And I think the problem with this whole meltdown is that it looks so ridiculous because the fact is I've seen even people on the left admit that this was a brilliant campaign move.
It just was, right?
It was a great stop.
I'm so happy that he wanted to do it, that he came up with it, that he decided this was something he was interested in doing because the side of him that so many of us get to see The majority don't is what he looked like, what he acted like, what his smile looked like in that drive-thru window.
And I'm so glad two weeks out from election day that people got to see a little piece of that Donald Trump that I know.
dave rubin
And then despite the fact that the media is now suddenly calling out his age and whatever, he is just out there doing it.
He joined my friend Sage Steele on stage just a few hours after the McDonald's appearance.
I thought this was just great.
unidentified
The fact that Mr.
President rushed here from A McDonald's.
Okay.
You were there for a full hour?
Flipping burger?
We had a tremendous crowd circling the McDonald's and the people were great.
dave rubin
The whole state Elizabeth, can you just talk, knowing the president a little bit and seeing the machine around him and the people around him and everything else, about the authenticity factor?
Because I am constantly amazed that this man with the orange skin and the crazy hair and all of that is a million times more authentic than not only Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, but the rest of them.
Elizabeth Warren and AOC, the entire clown car of Democrats.
He is more authentic than all of them, even though he's a billionaire who once was president and shouldn't be relatable to anyone, and yet he is.
elizabeth pipko
No, he 100% is.
I always tell people, some days I wish that I were willing to meet him.
His family had to sit down and be like, oh, they're not the people I thought they were and could have walked away.
I really do.
I've had those moments.
He and his family have been nothing but kind to me.
He's somehow even funnier and more normal in person, right?
Everyone I know who has met him walks away Liking him more than they did when they first entered the room.
He makes you feel like your opinion matters.
You forget instantly.
I tell my husband all the time that I worry about what I'm gonna say around him because you so quickly forget you're around the former and possibly future president of the United States.
That's just who he is.
That's why I think people struggle so hard going against him.
We saw that In 2016 on the debate stage against, I believe it was 17, Republicans.
You've obviously seen it against Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and certainly Hillary Clinton, the biggest politician of them all.
It's just he is the opposite of what our politicians have always been and certainly what the Democrats are.
Right now, he doesn't look at polling.
He doesn't look to his advisors to tell him what to do.
He thinks in the moment what he would like to do and what he believes the American people will like.
It's a very interesting gut instinct he has because he's never been a politician, but he's always had a very good gut instinct when it comes to what the American people will like and relate to.
He does not wait for, you know, advisors around him to tell him what is a good stop to make.
He decides and we kind of go along and make it happen.
That's why I like working for him so much because I know that what he does whether people think it's right or wrong comes from the right place it comes from him believing that's what the American people want to see and that's where they want to see him how they want to see him and it makes it for a much more special campaign for all of us because we're campaigning for an individual not for some kind of political operation and I honestly don't know after him if there's gonna be a lot of politicians that could be compared to him on the left or the right because he is just so different and Probably going to leave quite a lasting impact and set a
precedent that I don't know how many people are going to be able to match.
dave rubin
No, I don't think it's hyperbole to say that this feels like it could be the last election of man versus machine in sort of the philosophical sense of that.
You mentioned some of the media reaction to this thing.
There was an awful lot we could have showed you guys, but I have to show you this tweet from Newsweek because they knew it was such a win.
Look how they had to frame this thing.
Rumors have been circulating on social media that former president Donald Trump's visit to the popular fast food chain was staged.
They are trying...
Explain to people that he's not really an employee of McDonald's, that he just went there for an hour.
Is that not, when people talk about fake news and the endless hysteria, it's just so perfect.
As if anyone was like, oh, did Donald Trump stop running for president and now he's running a McDonald's?
It's just mind blowing.
Well, I guess it's not mind blowing.
You got anything on that one?
elizabeth pipko
I mean, it's not.
What's mind-blowing is watching all these people.
Like, I'm looking at intellectual and, you know, smart people, experienced, educated people who just break down when Donald Trump becomes a topic of conversation.
That's the weirdest part.
It's people that have journalism degrees, who went to school waiting to write about breaking news, who forget how to function when Donald Trump enters into a McDonald's.
I mean, that's all I've seen for the last eight years.
I don't even know what a stage campaign stop means.
Kamala Harris doesn't walk into an arena, start speaking, and then 10,000 people show up.
Everything is staged and planned, especially when a man was nearly assassinated just a couple of months ago.
Yes, we made sure to scope out the McDonald's beforehand, made sure that he was protected and made sure that the employees knew that he was coming in because they probably wouldn't appreciate a Donald Trump randomly walking in and asking to work the French fry maker.
dave rubin
So I don't know.
Did they know how well the apron was gonna fit?
Something about the fit of that apron was like, my God, this was freaking perfect.
elizabeth pipko
It's kind of like that missed assassination attempt.
God is looking out.
Let me tell you, God is looking out for Donald Trump.
dave rubin
So look, I don't know what they're smoking over at Newsweek, but if you thought that headline was ridiculous, check this one out.
Also from yesterday, because they realize he's got momentum.
They got to put something crazy up.
Donald Trump has shared what is likely an AI-generated image on his Truth Social account showing him as a player for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Elizabeth, are you ready for the image?
Oh my God.
I am told that...
Wow.
Likely.
elizabeth pipko
We don't actually know.
dave rubin
Likely.
Yes, people, that is AI. And they felt that they had to...
I mean, it's just, it's mind-numbing.
But it continues.
Here's AOC, a woman who I just mentioned.
She could not have the authenticity of this man if her life depended on it.
Here she is, and she's very upset by Donald Trump's McDonald's stunt.
unidentified
Donald Trump putting on a little McDonald's costume because he thinks that's what people do.
They're not trying to empathize with us.
They are making fun of us.
They are making fun of us.
Donald Trump thinks that people who work at McDonald's are a joke.
dave rubin
We are making fun of you, AOC, but it's not for the reasons you think.
Does she know that it's an apron, not a costume?
A costume is what you wear during Halloween.
elizabeth pipko
I was gonna say, that was a little more disrespectful than anything she's accusing him of, claiming that these people are putting costumes on every day.
I don't even know.
Look, the amount of people, if you saw the smiling faces outside the McDonald's, those are the drive-thru window.
No one looks at this the way that she does.
I don't understand the mental gymnastics it takes.
To look at a picture of Donald Trump serving French fries and decide how we're going to make this about, you know, race or God knows what else they like to come up with.
The fact is, Donald Trump was funny.
He had a great idea.
He showed up.
He served French fries.
He looked great in an apron.
Thousands of people showed up and they loved it.
And Kamala Harris didn't think about it first.
That's literally all that happened.
dave rubin
If you would like to see a politician doing a photo op, how about this from Colin Rugg?
This is just perfect.
AOC, they are making fun of us with this photo op.
She's obviously referring to Trump at McDonald's and also AOC. And of course, you may remember this.
This was her literally fake crying for a photo op outside of the quote unquote kids in cages.
And I think we have one more of her.
Another one, another fake photo op.
Remember this one when she was protesting and she pretended that she was handcuffed.
She was not handcuffed.
We're handcuffed.
We're really not fighting the best of the best, are we?
That's the depressing part about how close the election appears to be, right?
Because it's like they really are not the best of the best.
elizabeth pipko
No, it's much like in 2016.
I remember after we won a few minutes in, my husband just looked at me and said, if Hillary Clinton even understood what she just lost to.
It's the same thing here.
The amount of money, the amount of, you know, the elites coming together, Hollywood celebrities, the machine from the Clintons to Barack Obama to everything else.
Obviously, AOC probably plays a little part as well.
Coming up against a guy who just wants to serve McDonald's and make America green again.
I think it's hysterical, but I am so glad to see the American people seeing through all of this.
And it's so obvious.
And I almost feel bad for them because they're losing to a guy who literally wants to make jokes and enjoy McDonald's.
And that's it.
dave rubin
All right, so one more on McDonald's.
I know we could do six hours on Trump and McDonald's, but Donald Trump, a man who loves McDonald's, again, whose hair looks like the golden color of the fries, goes to McDonald's, works at McDonald's, compliments the workers at McDonald's, everyone going through the drive-through, loves McDonald's, thousands of people outside, win, win, win, win, win.
Tim Walz, a little less enthused about Donald Trump's visit.
tim walz
Vice President Harris and I grew up middle class.
We understand that.
She actually worked in a McDonald's.
She didn't go and pander and disrespect McDonald's workers by standing there in your red tie and take a picture.
His policies are the ones that undermine those very workers that were in that McDonald's, whether it's home ownership, health care, reproductive rights, or cost of product.
So there's more work to be done.
But just to be very clear, nothing Donald Trump is proposing does anything about the middle class.
dave rubin
Elizabeth, there's so much drivel there.
I don't even know where to start.
First of all, also, there's no evidence that she actually did work at McDonald's.
That's what she says.
If she did, so be it.
That's fine.
But there's no evidence of it.
And then, of course, he connects it to home ownership and reproductive rights.
And it's like, oh, God.
elizabeth pipko
That's what I was going to ask.
I'm not really sure what reproductive rights have to do with McDonald's, but when that's the only thing you have to run on, you kind of have to bring the point home.
I don't know.
I don't know why they couldn't just say, hey, he looked like he was having a good time.
We're going to come up with something, too.
That's all this is.
And again, people see right through it.
Everyone loves McDonald's.
I keep kosher, and I like to walk into the, you know, have the smell of McDonald's.
I'll steal a french fry here and there.
Everyone loves McDonald's, and there's nothing to do with reproductive rights or home ownership or race or anything else here.
Donald Trump came up with a great idea.
Everyone had a good time, and they just can't compete with it.
That's all there is.
dave rubin
And by the way, the craziest thing, just to put a button on this, the craziest thing about all this is that then RFK now has tweeted out about McDonald's frying in vegetable oil, even though they used to use beef tallow until 1990.
And to me, this strikes me as they're going to switch over.
Just mark my words right now.
Trump and RFK have now begun the thing where McDonald's will start frying their potatoes in beef tallow again and will make America healthy again.
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All right, so let's shift over to the machines candidate, Kamala Harris, who they installed after the coup of Joe Biden.
She's now out on the road with her new coalition because Trump has his coalition.
Everyone knows he's got RFK, he's got Tulsi, he's got Elon, Wide Tent, former Dems.
Kamala has...
Cheney.
That's right.
She has Liz Cheney, who lost her Wyoming congressional race by 40 points.
She is now a Democrat, apparently, running with Kamala.
And here they are at one of their little events.
kamala harris
Bringing the allies together is because they are fully aware of and remember, to the Congresswoman's point, World War II, remember this concept of isolation.
We were once there as a nation, and then Pearl Harbor happened.
Let's remember recent history.
Europe remembers it well.
Then when we got attacked, Pearl Harbor, we jumped in.
And it is because America jumped in that we were ultimately able to win that war.
And it should be a constant reminder to us, we have to remember history.
That isolationism, which is exactly what Donald Trump is pushing, pull out of NATO, abandon our friends, isolationism is not insulation.
It is not insulation.
It will not insulate us.
unidentified
Yeah, you know, I think that if you look at where the Republican Party is today, there's been a really dangerous embrace of isolationism.
dave rubin
Elizabeth, it's rather extraordinary.
First off, Donald Trump is not an isolationist.
He believes in peace through strength, and he wants other people to pay their amount to be in NATO, and he does wanna be there for our allies, unlike what this administration has done.
I'm not surprised by any of her lying.
Feel free to comment on that.
But the fact that they sit with a woman who lost her own congressional race by 40 points, who they hated, they hated the Cheney name, we'll get more to that in a second, they hated her, but now because she's in, it's like she's a hero to these people.
unidentified
What?
elizabeth pipko
Right.
I mean, it's also, I think, I talked about it a few minutes ago, Donald Trump and his gut instinct, right?
I'm not saying that just to compliment him.
There's people on both sides who have admitted that Donald Trump has a very good instinct when it comes to what the American people like.
And would connect to and what they're feeling, right?
I think that's what's missing here.
There seems to be like a disconnect between what the machine wants to do and what has worked and what would have worked in previous elections and what the American people actually want right now.
I know that the headline might have sounded good a few years ago that Liz Cheney endorsed the Democrat running for office.
The problem is the American people hate her father and her as well.
I mean, that's I don't think anyone on the left or the right has any interest in who Liz Cheney wants for president.
She literally has no supporters on either side, so this doesn't help Anyone, it may have a decade ago or so, but I think that's the difference.
That's why I talk about Donald Trump so much when it comes to him knowing what is best and not listening to advisors around him.
It's not because I want him to be flattered and to compliment him.
People mention it all the time.
He just has a way about knowing what the American people are going to relate to, knowing what's going to go viral, for example.
I think they're missing that, right?
They're missing how to relate to the American people.
They're missing what people actually want to see and hear and feel and only working with what the machine has used Election cycle after election cycle, which seems to not be working here.
dave rubin
Right, so they've got Liz Cheney, and of course, they've now got her father, Dick Cheney, who got us into the Iraq War.
Everyone knows about Halliburton and all the money his family made and everything else.
They used to call him Darth Vader.
That was the joke, because he had a bad heart and that he was evil, and he was the real evil driving force behind George W. Bush.
It was a rare moment where the VP was thought of as more evil than the president.
But now they're stuck with the Cheneys, and Tim Walz went on Jon Stewart's show, and Jon Stewart, who has Which I think turned into an absolute total progressive hack at this point.
He even is acknowledging how ridiculous this alliance is.
The Cheney thing.
unidentified
Do we really have to do that?
tim walz
Look, it goes broader than that.
Bernie Sanders, Dick Cheney, Taylor Swift.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
tim walz
Oh, the shooting?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim walz
Having the Cheneys on board?
unidentified
No!
dave rubin
You can't Dick Cheney or Taylor Swift.
unidentified
No!
tim walz
We're a big tent.
unidentified
What country did Taylor Swift get us to invade?
tim walz
No!
No, don't you think, though, that, and I do this, I believe this, there is still a core group of folks out there, you know, your point being, and not joke, the don't tread on me, the Reagan piece of this, the libertarian piece, but the constitutional piece, there are a lot of people out there.
I think Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney give permission to those folks who want to find a reason to do the right thing.
It doesn't mean they agree with us.
We're not going to take their foreign policy decisions and discussions, you know, and implement those.
We're going to take their...
Promise?
- Yes, promise.
unidentified
- Promise.
- Promise.
- Any of those things?
dave rubin
- Yeah. - It's so interesting because it's so obvious that Jon Stewart has made a deal with the devil.
He knows how evil this thing is and he's trying to call out the BS, but promise?
But it's like, no, you guys will continue the whole damn thing.
elizabeth pipko
Right.
Meanwhile, if you kind of reverse a couple of years ago, you could have asked Jon Stewart or anyone else their opinion on Dick Cheney, and he would have told you.
I love the Bernie Sanders-Taylor Swift comparison as well, when Bernie Sanders is probably the only Democrat since Barack Obama who could actually fill an arena who had the nomination taken away from him and who actually helps them, whether they like him or not.
I don't think Liz Cheney could fill a small room like I'm sitting in right now.
So I don't understand it.
I think it's comical, but if anything, it helps Donald Trump, so I hope they keep doing it.
But it just, again, it shows the disconnect.
The American people are looking for answers from both sides.
And I think one side is at least trying, right?
Donald Trump wants to get people answers, even if it's not what they want to hear.
The other side wants to win an election, and they're doing it based on calculations, which I think right now are failing.
dave rubin
Also, the idea that Bernie Sanders, Taylor Swift, and Dick Cheney have anything in common, like as if somehow they have the Constitution in common or rule of law in common.
No, they have the desire for power in common.
That's what they've got in common.
I don't have much of a segue here, but I had to show you this video because this was making the rounds yesterday.
This is Ben Shapiro six years ago doing a little prediction game, and check how this worked out.
ben shapiro
Donald Trump and Joe Biden takes us back to the place to senior.
So I think that Biden would probably be their best bet.
I think they're going to make a very stupid mistake and nominate the most progressive person they can find.
They'll nominate somebody like Kamala Harris or Cory Booker because Cory Booker shouts and cries and...
Largely makes a fool of himself in the Senate.
But if they were smart, they would nominate Biden.
What they would do if they were smart is they would nominate Biden, have him run with somebody like a Kamala Harris or a Cory Booker, and then say, I'm going to serve one term because I'm 70,000 years old, and then just hand it off second term to somebody else, and then Biden's achieved his life ambition, and he hands it off to the next in line.
That's what I would do if I were the Democrats, but I don't want to give them advice.
So please, guys, please run Kamala Harris or Cory Booker.
dave rubin
I mean, you gotta give the guy credit.
He called exactly what they did.
I think most of us thought they weren't smart enough to do it, but it was all fake with Biden the first time around.
It drew them further left and now the mask is completely off.
elizabeth pipko
Yeah, the only thing he couldn't predict was them pretending Biden was still functioning when he wasn't and then kind of quickly switching him out, pretending we wouldn't notice that Kamala Harris never got a vote and is now the nominee.
But no, props to Ben Shapiro.
That was actually incredible.
I've never seen that.
And I wish more people realized what was going on, like he did somehow before it even happened, right?
And I hope he's right.
I hope running this progressive candidate and I think her even more progressive VP choice is going to come up with quite a loss for the Democrats.
dave rubin
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So Mark Cuban, a guy that most people liked and basically was a moderate and kind of a fun billionaire, owning the Dallas Mavs and on Shark Tank and all of that, he's gone all in on Kamala.
He's got his thick rimmed glasses and he's out there and he keeps looking a little more lesbian-y every day than whatever, no judgment here.
But here he is explaining that what Biden and Kamala did at the border was just Because their hearts are just so darn big.
unidentified
So when it comes to criminalizing and not criminalizing crossing the border, I mean, that is just so stark, but you view that as an evolution.
mark cuban
Yeah, I mean, look, here's my opinion.
I'm not speaking for the campaign with this.
I thought their hearts were too big when Joe came into office, that they didn't know how many people would cross the border, and it got away from them.
But they figured it out.
They learned.
And what did they do?
He put together an executive order, and now the number of border crossings is down to where they were under Trump, maybe a little lower.
She said she's going to sign the border bill, which is very clear where she stands now.
But let me tell you, Erin, the most important thing that has not been discussed, Donald Trump and Kamala both have said when it comes to illegals that are in the country that have violated the law, they're criminals, they're gonna deport them.
Donald Trump hasn't said what he's going to do to deport anybody else.
dave rubin
Elizabeth, a little too late, or is that just the perfect explanation of sort of the modern liberal mind?
It's like we screw up everything because of our big hearts, eventually come around and have the same policies of the guy that we used to call Hitler.
elizabeth pipko
Right.
The same policies three weeks before an election, but then we know that we're not going to keep any of those promises once we get elected.
Let's not forget.
Look, I don't know Mark Cuban.
I actually think he's incredibly smart.
I've only heard good things.
But I think to reach his success level, you have to be smart.
So he probably knows as well as I do that no politician on that level suffers from a heart that's just too darn big, right?
That just doesn't happen.
So that's number one.
And number two, like you said, I mean, this is kind of what people think of politicians, right?
Left and right.
People have said it for years.
Politicians go out, they make promises they know that they can keep in order to win elections.
And Right now, we actually don't have to wonder if she's gonna keep the promise or not because Kamala Harris is in the White House right now, right, with Joe Biden.
So if she wanted to focus on the border or do any of the things that she promises she will do if elected, she could have done them and she could still do them right now.
So I don't really think anyone's listening to what Mark Cuban thinks might happen in January of 2025.
They're looking right now at their checkbooks and their gas bill And looking out their window, wondering if their kids will be safe outside, and knowing darn well Kamala Harris actually does not plan to keep any of these promises.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
If your heart was too damn big, you might want to defend the people of the United States, say, from Venezuelan gangs, perhaps.
But while Mark Cuban is curiously looking more and more like a woman, here are a couple men for Kamala.
unidentified
About being a girl dad, I love how much smarter she is than all the guys in the room already.
dave rubin
I can tell that she's going to be a powerhouse.
unidentified
She is already at two and a half.
My daughter's 22 and a half, is a feminist, incredibly strong, and has really just inspired me in so many ways.
I love her.
I'm the proud dad of Ella over here.
My vote for Kamala is an investment in my daughter's future.
I agree.
I'm right there with you.
When the Dobbs decision came out two-plus years ago, I heard from Kamala right away.
And then the next person was Ella.
She texted me right away, essentially saying, we need to fight.
This is not just an issue for women.
This is an issue for men and families.
And this is one of the many, many reasons why we have got to elect Kamala's president.
Never in my lifetime did I think that we would be having to fight for this and the fight for our own bodies.
And I think it's really important for the men to step up and show that they actually support us and they're willing to put things on the line to help us.
dave rubin
So Ella over there is Emhoff's daughter.
He did bang the nanny also.
That's a separate thing, but that is the daughter.
She's a Hamas supporter.
But putting that aside for a moment, these celebrities for Kamala, is it reaching you?
Do you feel it's reaching people at this point?
elizabeth pipko
I don't think so.
As much as I love Ben Stiller, I don't care who he's voting for.
dave rubin
I don't think anyone in America.
elizabeth pipko
Exactly.
Good Jewish actor.
We love to support Ben Stiller.
I think he went to my elementary school actually for a year, but no, I think he's very cool and I love his movies, but I don't think anyone in America actually cares who Mark Cuban or Ben Stiller or anyone else tells them to vote for.
I think, again, this is that weird playbook that might've worked 10, 20 years ago, but doesn't work Anymore.
People just don't care.
And also the cringy videos that they put out don't resonate, right?
There's a lot that you can say, whether you support Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, but the American people aren't stupid, right?
That's what I hate.
I don't care if you're a Democrat or Republican.
I hate when you talk to the American people as if they're dumb and you're going to convince them of what is best for them as if they don't know for themselves.
That's what I can't stand.
And I think that's what people see through more and more nowadays.
And this video has cringe written all over it.
dave rubin
So speaking of cringe, this is the cringiest cringe in all of cringetown.
Here's Kamala Harris yesterday explaining that you can vote because even Jimmy Carter, 100-year-old Jimmy Carter, voted.
unidentified
So look, if Jimmy Carter can vote early, you can too.
So look, if Jimmy Carter can vote early, you can too.
dave rubin
I had like a hundred jokes written here.
There's so many obvious things, like all the references from all the horror movies, all of those things.
But like all of that aside for a second, we can try to do this one straight up.
Like there's something very evil about that because the way she's laughing, she's basically like he's comatose and they got him to do it, which he obviously has no cognizant awareness of what he's doing.
But like there's something quite grotesque about that.
elizabeth pipko
Yeah, I hadn't seen it compiled with that video of him.
That's actually kind of gross.
I think everyone would agree with that, by the way.
It's gross and it's creepy, like you said, combined with that laugh.
And I mean, I guess if we can force Jimmy Carter, we can force you too.
That's all she's really saying.
But I don't know, that was creepy.
I don't think any president actually should be portrayed in that light at all.
And I'm sad that they even put that video out.
dave rubin
I know.
We won't throw to that one again.
It's really disturbing.
All right.
I want to end on a positive note.
And there are a million reasons for people to see the positivity actually right now with this wide tent thing, with the momentum.
Something seems to be shifting in the culture.
Who the hell knows what they're going to do in two weeks.
But something good is happening.
Let's go back to my friend Sage Steele.
unidentified
All those of you who believe in Jesus, you're at the right rally.
You're at the right place.
We welcome everybody here.
Pennsylvania absolutely does.
For all of you who believe, you know you're at the right place.
Jesus, Muslims, atheists, Jews, everybody is welcome here.
I know from personal experience—I'm going to tell you a quick story before we bring out the man of the hour—personal experience that everybody is welcome as the proud daughter Of a black man whose parents and grandparents came from the islands, from Trinidad and Tobago and Barbados.
A white mother, a white Irish Catholic mother whose parents and grandparents came from Ireland and Italy through Ellis Island.
Guess what?
They did it legally!
And they came here!
And because of that, I have the honor of speaking to you tonight with the President because they love this country and they took the time to do it the right way.
So I know for sure that all of us are welcome.
As the proud mother of three college-aged kids who have very different opinions, I know from personal experience, all of us, everybody is welcome.
And as a career TV broadcaster, part of the mainstream media, corporate media for years and years and years, who then said no.
Enough is enough.
Because diversity of thought is what matters.
Everybody is welcome.
dave rubin
Elizabeth, isn't that it more than anything else?
She actually means it when she says these people are.
Christians actually are welcome.
They're Jews, Muslims.
It doesn't matter because Trump and America doesn't view you as just that.
Where on the other side, it's like, we'll accept you if you're a Jew, as long as you're kind of for Hamas.
Or we'll accept you as a Christian, as long as you don't talk about Christianity.
And we'll accept you as a Muslim, as long as you want to dominate everybody.
Something like that.
elizabeth pipko
Yeah, look, first of all, I adore Sage.
I know you're friends with her as well.
That was incredible.
And that's why we love her so much.
And we're so proud to have her on our side, by the way.
She's been touring the country with us on our Women for Trump tour.
She's been incredible to get to know over the last couple of weeks.
But it's true.
She said it really, really well there.
I understand where people are coming from, where they don't like Donald Trump.
I get it.
If I didn't know him and his family and his team and I just watched I've read the headlines and read what I have been reading for the last eight years or so.
I don't know if I'd like him either.
I understand how easy they've made it for people to hate this man and, by the way, But for those listening that might be on the fence, we all believe exactly what Sage said.
We all just want America to be great.
We want everyone to prosper in this country regardless of where you came from, regardless of what you believe in.
As long as you came here legally and you want America to do well, we want you here.
We want to work with you.
We want you to be successful.
That's all that Donald Trump wants.
I know it's hard to believe that, but we truly love everyone.
We want everyone to work together.
We want our country to be number one.
We want you and your family to be number one, to do your best.
That's why people like my own parents gave up everything To come to this country because they believed in it and they knew that America founding fathers, everything we stand for, believe in all of us.
Sage said it best there, but Donald Trump truly just wants you to do well.
It's that simple and we want you to come over to our side, have fun with us, the national anthem, cry with us when we listen to it, you know, light up fireworks on July 4th, be happy, be successful, be the best country in the world like we're always meant to be and to do it together.
It's really that simple.
dave rubin
That should probably be the close of the show, but we got two more for you, so you just introed The Rock.
unidentified
Who's the biggest on social media?
The Rock.
Oh, The Rock is Dwayne Johnson.
You know, he was great.
I never thought he liked me.
And I fell badly because I think he's a terrific guy.
And then Dana White said, when I was shot, took a shot to the ear.
You may have heard about it.
It's good to ask you about it.
I've heard some ripplings about this.
Rock called.
Dana said, I want to have his number.
I want to have his number.
What he did is sort of incredible.
He considered it bravery.
I don't know.
To me, I considered it like, what's going on here?
But it was very nice.
dave rubin
So now The Rock has come around, who is a huge Democrat fundraiser.
And I thought we'd end with this guy on the Piers Morgan show.
I thought this was quite good.
And then we'll get Elizabeth's thoughts.
piers morgan
Well, the betting markets are 59% now, Dave, on Trump prevailing in two weeks' time.
It's obviously very, very close.
We know that.
It's going to be very close.
But certainly in the swing states, you get a sense of slight momentum Trump's wearing.
You're certainly seeing Kamala Harris nowhere near Well, my take at the moment, Piers, you know my political evolution well.
dave rubin
I'm by no means a traditional conservative or even traditional Republican.
I wasn't a Republican most of my life.
I am since I moved here to Florida a couple years ago.
But what's happening right now with Trump is that he has built a coalition around him with people that were Democrats, Robert F. Kennedy, the name is the standard bearer for the Democrat Party.
Tulsi Gabbard, only a few years ago, running for president as a Democrat.
Elon Musk, who was a Democrat his entire life.
We're getting Hollywood celebrities and rappers, a whole group of athletes, MMA guys, people who are apolitical.
No, but it's not about that.
It's that sort of dismissiveness that leads people to not liking lefties.
What you're seeing right now is a whole bunch of people who love America.
They love free speech.
They love free enterprise.
They love the founding of this country.
And they're realizing that Trump now is the vehicle to save this country.
It's either that or hyper control over your life in every which way by a woman who Who I would say is the first artificial intelligence candidate in that she has been programmed to say things and she will say whatever she's programmed to do.
Emphasis on artificial.
Elizabeth, bring us home.
elizabeth pipko
I don't know who that guy is, but he gets it, right?
No, that was perfect.
It's simple.
It's like I said, we just want everyone to succeed.
I think what you said was right.
There are people coming over to Trump's side that people never kind of anticipated.
We never saw this coming, but it kind of exemplifies everything.
That he has stood for this entire time.
I love that we started with that clip of Donald Trump from, you know, 30, 40 years ago.
That's what people should be watching.
That's the Donald Trump that we are still Supporting that we are hoping to put into the White House in two weeks time that is the same Donald Trump who's always just wanted America and you and your family to be successful please if you're on the fence take your time do some research for yourself we are not as scary as we seem Donald Trump wants America to be great he wants you and your family to do well he doesn't care where you come from as long as you love this country it's that simple and I'm I'm hoping that there are more of us than there are of those who want the opposite I really am and I'm I'm cautiously optimistic because this country means
so much to so many of us, and I'm pretty excited to save it in two weeks' time.
dave rubin
Elizabeth, on that note, I have my fancy Sharpie here.
I have a piece of blank paper.
Would you like to make a prediction?
elizabeth pipko
Are we talking percentage?
Are we talking which states?
dave rubin
I'll take anything.
It's the worst question to ask anyone, so I'll take whatever way you want to answer it.
elizabeth pipko
I'm going to bet we take Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Nevada, and that's how we win the election.
That's my bet.
dave rubin
Elizabeth Pipko, thank you very much.
Guys, we've got a post-game show coming up in moments, rubinreport.locals.com.
And yes, we are two weeks away.
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