Oct. 4, 2024 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| I saw this video of like nine women and they would say like how old they are. | ||
| Like I'm 25 and I've gotten, you know, I have Botox filled. | ||
| They go on. I think I saw this. | ||
| Do you see this thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they all look older. | ||
| They all look much older. | ||
| I couldn't believe that these girls who are saying that they're 22, 24, 26... | ||
| No joke. They looked older than me. | ||
| Right. Because they end up looking like, as I said, like 50 or 60 year old trying to look 40. | ||
| And suddenly they look, yeah. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| And the girl, like, I don't know what it is. | ||
| I think because what's happened is I think we're so... | ||
| We have like a dysmorphia. | ||
| I don't know what the word is, but I think we've all been so conditioned to believe a different version of what beauty is now, right? | ||
| Like the beauty is, and maybe it's different. | ||
| I live in LA, but fake lips, fake, you know, tons of filler, like a lower facelift. | ||
| I'm just making that like, whatever it is. | ||
| A lower facelift? Like a lower facelift, which I don't have, but I'd like, but anyway, I'm just joking. | ||
| Okay. But that's a whole other story. | ||
| But what I'm saying is that, like, I think it's become, like, this, like, new version of beauty. | ||
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It's a crazy world, crazy world. | |
| Somebody's gotta have the same views. | ||
| It's a crazy world. | ||
| It's a crazy world. | ||
| Somebody's gotta have the same views. | ||
| All right, Jen Cohen of the Habits & Hustle podcast. | ||
| I am glad to be sitting down with you. | ||
| We're doing something we've never done here before, which is that we have Golden Girls mugs on set right now. | ||
| There's a lot of Golden Girls stuff. | ||
| I didn't realize how much Golden Girls stuff there was around here until you walked in and you started pointing it all out. | ||
| There's a lot of Golden Girls stuff here, but when I was on your podcast a couple months ago in L.A., we did about a half hour on Golden Girls. | ||
| We could do another half hour. | ||
| No, I'm saying, so we can either continue that right now, or we could talk about habits, we could talk about hustle, we could talk about crazy California, which is where you live, the city that I fled, Los Angeles, or a whole bunch of other stuff. | ||
| But what brings you to Miami besides the Rubin Report? | ||
| You're doing something big tomorrow. I am. | ||
| I'm doing a TED Talk tomorrow. | ||
| Yeah. I'm doing a TED Talk on how to raise mentally strong children in a coddling world. | ||
| That's the title. I'm still working on it. | ||
| I haven't done it yet, so I'm still working on what the title should be, but that's overall the premise of what I'm trying to do tomorrow. | ||
| Do you have any good ideas on how to do that? | ||
| Because that seems to be one of the big things right now. | ||
| There's at least a generation, probably two, maybe three, that are just really whacked out of their heads because they were given participation. | ||
| That's basically what it's about. | ||
| So my entire premise and what I'm really passionate about, because now I have two kids, you have kids, it's something that I'm really struggling with, to be honest, as a parent, because I'm really about... | ||
| Basically doing hard things, letting my kids fail, and how failure is how everybody learns. | ||
| That's how I learned. I grew up similar to you, we're the same age, where we had to figure shit out. | ||
| Am I allowed to say that on the show? | ||
| You can say, yeah. You had to figure shit out. | ||
| There was consequences to bad behavior, and then that's how you learn not to do that thing again. | ||
| And now there is, you know, no score games, participation trophies, helicopter parenting, safe zone, you know, safe spaces, trigger warnings, all of these things that are kind of, they're creating a very soft next generation of weaker and weaker children, which is not really good for anybody, not really good for them, not good for like the world, society, and it kind of is a ripple effect. | ||
| And so I guess my intention is to kind of bring it up yet again into whatever echo chamber | ||
| I'm talking to and hopefully try to get people on board to help change the social norms of | ||
| what we are seeing. | ||
| Does it feel to you like those of us who are better, say, we're both, you're 48 also, right? | ||
| We're exactly the same age. | ||
| That we grew up, largely, if you grew up middle class in suburbia and you're somewhere in | ||
| your 40s, 50s, maybe even 30s, that it was like magical beyond belief, actually. | ||
| When I think of, I would come, I walked to elementary school, walked to junior high, | ||
| they were both within walking distance of my house. | ||
| And then I would basically come home, eat something. | ||
| My mom was home, we'd eat something. | ||
| And then I'd get on my bike and I would disappear, basically, for five hours. | ||
| With my brother, my friends. | ||
| It's not like we were doing anything bad, but we were just all over the place, riding around town like crazy people. | ||
| And then you'd come home and have dinner and do it again the next day. | ||
| And it's like you'd be crazy to let your kid do that these days in most of the country. | ||
| So that's basically what I've noticed, right? | ||
| What I kind of talk about and what I've noticed and what the research has even shown is that people who were born after 1995, all the things that you and I grew up with, like you said, riding our bike, getting into trouble, dating, flirting, just kind of like having fun or fighting with your friend even. | ||
| Mm-hmm. 80% of that shit is now gone, and it's replaced by screen time and smartphones and Instagram, which is then, I think, led to a lot of these other issues that we're dealing with. | ||
| is of course this coddle culture that's kind of happened with people and emotional triggers | ||
| and parents who have now been overprotective and safetyism. | ||
| I just feel like it's really kind of a troubling time because people are just now soft because | ||
| they're not even allowed or it's not even a thing to even go on a bike ride. | ||
| People are not even doing it. | ||
| People don't even have bikes anymore, right? | ||
| Or they're not even participating in sports. | ||
| You're saying after here you're going to play basketball with a bunch of people. | ||
| Kids are not even doing that as much as they used to because they're stuck on a screen the whole time. | ||
| You know, it's interesting because I mentioned to you right before I started, I'm going to play basketball after this and I play with guys that are all ages and a few of them now bring their kids. | ||
| So even though it'll be a guy in his 60s, he's bringing like a 22-year-old or sometimes even like a 17-year-old, something like that. | ||
| And I've noticed that the younger ones, when they play, not all of them, they get discouraged very easily. | ||
| So if they make a bad play or a bad pass or something, they're like head down, like they have no coping mechanisms to deal with it. | ||
| That's just one anecdotal thing, but I think it's indicative of something. | ||
| No, that's the whole thing. | ||
| People are not learning coping skills. | ||
| Like me, I have kids who are, like I said, 9 and 11, and what's happening is if kids are not the ones who are starting the game, the parents complain, right? | ||
| If the coach... Right, right, right. | ||
| Only so many people could start, isn't it? | ||
| Only so many people can start. | ||
| And if your kid's not one of them, you'll hear it from the parent. | ||
| Or if the coach raises his voice, parents complain. | ||
| Or the best is, there's now silent games where you're not allowed to cheer because you may hurt the feelings of someone else on the team. | ||
| Oh, I haven't even heard of that one. Or you can't say the word don't. | ||
| Have you heard this one? You can only start a sentence with do. | ||
| So I went to my kid's soccer game and I'm like, don't go that way! | ||
| And the mom beside me was horrified by me. | ||
| We don't start sentences here with don't. | ||
| We only start with positive do. | ||
| And so this is the way we've been trained. | ||
| We don't do this. | ||
| We only do that. | ||
| So now what's happening is we're bubble wrapping our kids into making them kind of the environment to kind of adapt to them versus the child or the person to adapt to the environment. | ||
| So this is like what's happening. | ||
| Right. It's unbelievable. | ||
| Your podcast, which is largely about, like, how do you become successful? | ||
| Right. For someone to run a podcast like that and then have to deal with a parent at a kid's game who's telling you, don't say the word don't. | ||
| I mean... Why do you think I'm doing the TED Talk tomorrow? | ||
| That's got to be a lot of this. | ||
| Well, let's just say this. | ||
| My kids don't have a lot of play dates at my house. | ||
| Let's put it that way. Well, they do, but, like, not as many as they maybe should. | ||
| But, yeah, I know. It's actually a very... | ||
| It's a dichotomy and I live in California, as you said. | ||
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| You live in Los Angeles, California, which is a very special blend of everyone that I bring in here. | ||
| It's why. Why are you still there? | ||
| I'll tell you why I'm still there. | ||
| And I think a lot of people will agree with this, the weather. | ||
| I mean, the weather is amazing. | ||
| Here, I'm in Florida, you can die out here. | ||
| Literally, you could die. It's like 100 degrees with humidity of 100. | ||
| So if you have curly hair, you can't live here. | ||
| There's no way. I don't know how people are able to function. | ||
| Only for a few months. | ||
| Yes, it is extremely hot May through September. | ||
| May, June, July, August. | ||
| It's five months. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's the price you have to pay for freedom. | ||
| I mean, it's okay. I like sweating, though, in general. | ||
| Well, yeah, but you have short hair, too. | ||
| So it's not as... If you're a girl... | ||
| It's tough being a chick, that's what you're saying. | ||
| It's very tough. Or anybody who has, like, curly hair, number one. | ||
| But even for, like, you know, take vanity aside for a second. | ||
| All right. It's just hot as shit. | ||
| Like, I don't know how people are able to, like, even go for a walk to, like, the grocery store or the bank. | ||
| It's... So I will grant you that it is hot in Florida. | ||
| California and Los Angeles have crazy homeless drugs. | ||
| Terrible. The amount of people. I'm sure you have tons of friends that have left. | ||
| The thing that was driving me the craziest, like there were all of that stuff, and I left during COVID, so then there was very specific things, COVID-related, and masks where I was getting yelled at all the time. | ||
| But I found actually the thing that... | ||
| That was driving me the craziest was that anytime we had dinner parties, which we had all the time, all the dinner parties were about who's leaving and when are you going to leave and how are you going to get out of here and what's your plan? | ||
| And I found that over time, that's not good. | ||
| It's not a good thing. | ||
| I call LA, California, like Gotham City, right? | ||
| Like Batman, right? | ||
| Because it used to be this beautiful place. | ||
| And then over time now, it's become like Gotham City. | ||
| It's like crime, homeless, it's dirty, it's like Two-Face Gavin Newsom. | ||
| Two-Face Gavin Newsom, exactly. | ||
| I don't know what the Joker is around here. | ||
| Maybe that's the one character I've yet to find. | ||
| But it's really, honestly, it's really unbelievable. | ||
| And the taxes are just insane. | ||
| But the problem is that if you like weather and if you're into health and wellness like I am, it really is the mecca. | ||
| And so it's really hard to kind of leave there. | ||
| Like I'm telling you, like I spent also seasons, like I'm very like, I'm the kind of person that I do. | ||
| I'm very affected by weather. | ||
| Some people don't care as much. | ||
| Yeah. So you're staying. | ||
| For now. You're fighting. | ||
| You mentioned, I think this is somewhat connected to it. | ||
| You mentioned to me right before that, so I was on your show a couple months ago in LA, you mentioned you got a lot of hate for them. | ||
| You're killing me because of you. | ||
| And I think that's connected to what's going on in Los Angeles. | ||
| You literally single-handedly, like... | ||
| I brought my ratings down a couple notches, I have to say. | ||
| And I'm still getting hate messages because of you. | ||
| Happy to help. Right, thank you. | ||
| It's a great help. Who needs that kind of help? | ||
| I mean, you know what it was? | ||
| Because California is very much about Democrats, I mean, you know, it's a blue place. | ||
| The Kamala Harris stuff that we were talking about really disturbed me. | ||
| By the way, the people who were complaining weren't even from California. | ||
| It was just people who were overall just not liking anything that was against the Democratic Party, Kamala Harris. | ||
| But I got just slaughtered by that whole episode. | ||
| Slaughtered by you. It was crazy. | ||
| What do you... | ||
| I mean, here you are sitting with me right now. | ||
| Because I like you. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You're right. I like you. You're obviously not afraid of that stuff. | ||
| But it's annoying when it comes your way, in a sense. | ||
| I get kind of nervous and scared when I see your episode with Dave Rubin. | ||
| And I get this agita. | ||
| I'm like, I know where this is going. | ||
| And they're like, I don't like how you did this, how he said this, that you were agreeing with that. | ||
| You know what's so interesting to me, though? | ||
| Why is it that... | ||
| I thought it's all about freedom of speech and having opinions. | ||
| But what I feel has happened is that has become... | ||
| The Democratic Party isn't what the Democratic Party was when I was a kid. | ||
| It's just not the same anymore. | ||
| And it's become this exceptionally... | ||
| It's become this, like, unless you agree exactly with what this box, this myopic view, then you're, like, the bad person. | ||
| You're, like, the bad guy. | ||
| You are the, you know, you are the enemy. | ||
| And, like, I don't even think we were saying anything that was that terrible. | ||
| I barely remember talking politics. | ||
| We literally talked about the Golden Gate for about 45 minutes, but I could see how that would become very political. | ||
| We talked about Sophia and Blanche. | ||
| I don't know how this happened. But I think that all you did, or all we did, was say that we weren't big fans of Kamala Harris. | ||
| And that, like, came a shitstorm of, like, negativity towards me. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure I said a little more than that. | ||
| Well, yes. In essence, that was the... | ||
| But by the way, what's so wrong with having an opinion that you don't like her? | ||
| Why is it okay for people to go and, like, shit-talk Donald Trump constantly? | ||
| And if you do that, then you get, like, you know, you get, like, a purple heart. | ||
| You know what I mean? You get, like, a gold star. | ||
| Like, yeah! So how do you navigate that as a public person and as a parent in a place where it's pretty the other way, to say the least? | ||
| You know, for a long time, I kind of kept my mouth shut. | ||
| You know, I didn't want to, like... | ||
| I didn't really... I never really did. | ||
| So I kind of just like never did it. | ||
| But then everyone else was doing it, speaking their opinions. | ||
| I'm like, why the fuck should I not? | ||
| So I think what happened was after October 7th happened, that's when things like the floodgates kind of opened. | ||
| And I was already speaking up on Israel and being pro-Israel and kind of having an opinion where it came to that, which, by the way, became a very political thing, which I never thought in a million years that that would become a political thing, but it did. | ||
| You never thought that defending Israel would be brutal? | ||
| I never thought that me defending Israel would become such a polarizing political thing. | ||
| Probably on the left, maybe, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or in general. | ||
| No, no. I guess I was ignorant. | ||
| Meaning that the right broadly supports Israel. | ||
| You probably didn't think it was going to be so bananas on the left. | ||
| Actually, what I actually really believed was it was so obvious and clear to me that Israel was attacked. | ||
| Israel has a right to defend themselves. | ||
| And so they are defending themselves. | ||
| Like, I thought it was, like, common sense. | ||
| But what I learned quite quickly was common sense isn't very common. | ||
| And people, without even having the knowledge or education, just pounced on me yet again. | ||
| It became the uncool thing to be a proud Jew or to someone who would defend Israel. | ||
| And so when that started, I was like, fuck this. | ||
| I'm going to go all in on this because what I did notice, as I'm sure you can tell, is that the left or those people or the woke kind of generation was very anti-Israel. | ||
| And still is and have continued to be worse and worse. | ||
| And that's where anti-Semitism has been very much like bread. | ||
| And so with that happening, it kind of, I just ricocheted into politics a little. | ||
| I still, listen, I'm no, I'm no pundit. | ||
| I'm not you. I'm not an analyst. | ||
| I don't know. I don't, I don't, I don't pretend to know all the nuance about any, everything, but I do know what's like to me, what's obvious and was clear as day. | ||
| And so I speak up about it. | ||
| And, um, Yeah, that's how it kind of happened. | ||
| And then, like, it's been difficult because people don't want to—people are very offended by that. | ||
| And they're very, like, disgusted by the fact that, like, maybe I may not be—maybe what you're not a Democrat and what you don't like, Kamala Harris, how— How dare you? | ||
| You know, like, how can you just, how can you speak this? | ||
| Aren't you a woman? Right. | ||
| And so that was the other thing. Are you a woman? | ||
| Like, well, apparently I'm not. | ||
| Which is the sum totality of your entire existence, so clearly you must vote a certain way. | ||
| That's exactly it. | ||
| So what's gonna happen is she's, I think, completely different to what we thought the first time. | ||
| I think she's gonna win. | ||
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| I'm trying to think for a moment. When we did your show, had she already—was Biden done already? | ||
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No. Was he cooked at that point? At that point, I think that they were going— It was about to happen, basically. | |
| I think she either just got the nomination— They had just done the coup. | ||
| They had just done the whole coup. Okay. | ||
| Or we thought that she was going to do the coup. | ||
| Okay. I think maybe it's the latter. | ||
| The latter one? We were like, yeah, it's about to happen. | ||
| Yeah. I think. I'm not—yeah. | ||
| I think you're right. And we're just talking about more like if she became. | ||
| Right. And it was more like, there's no way that this is going to happen. | ||
| Because also, Donald Trump was shot, remember? | ||
| I do remember. | ||
| The first one, the first one. | ||
| Right, the assassination. And I thought that was like a shoo-in for him. | ||
| Yeah. Because I'm like, this is like, and he's with the whole picture of him with the arm up. | ||
| Oh, right. So it was in that weird time where they were about to do it because she hadn't taken over still right after. | ||
| I don't think so. Exactly. | ||
| Where it was still going to be Biden. | ||
| Yeah. What has some of this taught you about women in general? | ||
| Because there's been a lot of talk about this, about the temperament between men and women, how that's different, and that women who tend to be more sensitive are more into this social justice thing, or even that there's a certain type of guy who's actually a little more feminine, having nothing to do with sexuality, that's more into this thing. | ||
| Has that taught you anything? | ||
| Well, first of all... Or have you learned anything regarding that? | ||
| What I find interesting about the whole thing is that I've never been someone who believes that just because someone is a certain gender, then you automatically have to support that person. | ||
| I always support the person who's the best, right? | ||
| It's ridiculous to me. | ||
| Like, women empowerment. | ||
| Like, well, she's a woman. You have to support this. | ||
| To me, it's like the best person, whoever has the chops, whoever has the... | ||
| the qualifications, whoever has the grit. | ||
| Like I'm a big person who believes in grit and someone who has like work ethic | ||
| and the whole like certain attitude of, and it's not about just because they're a girl or a boy | ||
| or a cat, it doesn't matter to me. | ||
| And so I do notice that like that to me is a problem in itself. | ||
| And so what I always find is like, just because someone is something, | ||
| you're gonna vote for somebody based on zero policy. | ||
| And she's hanging her hat, of course, on the women's issues. | ||
| But what bothers me is that people don't even care to dig a little deeper to know what they're even doing just because someone has a woman body part or a more feminine way. | ||
| Now, by the way, I'm not saying, I'm not even sitting here saying that I love Donald Trump. | ||
| I just don't think we have any good options, to be honest with you. | ||
| I think that we have a list of people who, like, the people who are actually, who should be running this country, who have the wherewithal, don't want to run the country. | ||
| They don't want to do politics. | ||
| They're too busy doing other things. | ||
| It's funny that you have to make that qualification, because we could have done an hour here without you saying Trump once, and people might have thought you're voting for him, or maybe not. | ||
| And by the way, even though I'm obviously going to vote for him, and I'm definitely supporting him, Like, is it in some world that there would be better, you know, quote-unquote better people doing this? | ||
| Yeah. Of course, of course, but this is the world we got as far as I know. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. I think that this is my point. | ||
| It's like, I don't like any of the options that much, but of the options we have, do I prefer him? | ||
| I do prefer him, right? | ||
| Also, it's like kind of like... | ||
| I think people get really stuck on optics a lot, right? | ||
| And so when people aren't... | ||
| What she has going for her, she's more polished, let's say. | ||
| She was a prosecutor, so she knows how to... | ||
| She practices certain things. | ||
| She says things more... That can be much more appealing to the average person. | ||
| But I'm not someone who stands on ceremony and who's all about the optics so much. | ||
| And I personally like people who are kind of clumsy in that way. | ||
| I think it's an endearing quality. | ||
| And so anyway, my point is, I don't know, you asked me, I'm like going around and around, but I don't, I'm not someone who believes in just because someone's a girl, you should vote for a girl or help that girl. | ||
| You help the person who's the most qualified. | ||
| Let's shift a little bit from that and talk about habits and hustle. | ||
| What are some of the habits that you have or when did you start developing some habits? | ||
| That kind of led you to a place of success or being 48 years old and not falling apart yet and the rest of it. | ||
| Well, whatever you're doing is actually working pretty well. | ||
| Well, I told you what I'm doing. Besides basketball. | ||
| I'm running around in extremely hot weather all the time and I eat a lot of red meat. | ||
| That's it. That really is it, truly. | ||
| It works. It builds resilience. | ||
| You're definitely resilient and have a great endurance from running around in this heat. | ||
| But I would say the first thing, honestly, is exercise. | ||
| I think people really under-index the importance of taking your fitness and your health seriously. | ||
| I think health is a number one thing. | ||
| If you don't have that, you have nothing. | ||
| And I started doing that at a very young age. | ||
| And I think it really did teach me a lot of foundational, fundamental skills in life that people maybe just maybe papoo and not really think about how it has been. | ||
| Like, fitness to me was like a microcosm of everything else because it teaches you discipline. | ||
| It teaches you patience. | ||
| It teaches you, like, you need to be consistent in anything you do to be successful. | ||
| It teaches you patience. | ||
| All of these things that I was learning while I was on a fitness journey. | ||
| Why were you into it? | ||
| How young do you mean? | ||
| You know how I got into fitness, funnily enough? | ||
| I didn't get into it on a dance team that I wanted to get onto. | ||
| All my friends got onto this dance team. | ||
| This high school, junior high? | ||
| No, no, no. It was like a... | ||
| It's actually... | ||
| It's called Chai. It was like an Israeli folk dancing troupe. | ||
| I'm Canadian. And it was like the biggest thing when I was a kid. | ||
| Like all... Like... | ||
| I went to a private Jewish school for many years and then I went somewhere else. | ||
| But... It wasn't part of the school. | ||
| It was actually like a national dancing team, like a troop. | ||
| And I didn't make it, but all my friends made it. | ||
| And so I was really bummed out. | ||
| And so because they were all now going to be doing this, like all the practicing, I was like, what am I going to do? | ||
| And so I found like some women's gym down the street in my house. | ||
| And I went in to think, okay, maybe I'll just... | ||
| Do this, because apparently I'm not a good enough dancer. | ||
| And so I went and did some step class of some kind, and I ended up liking it. | ||
| And so I went back the next day to do another thing. | ||
| And then it kind of happened by accident. | ||
| And then slowly but surely, I became really strong, physically strong, mentally. | ||
| Mm-hmm. My mental toughness was actually really shifting. | ||
| And it was changing the neuroplasticity of my brain to really believe I can do hard things and to get a goal, have a goal in mind. | ||
| And so I really used exercise as kind of like a stepping stone to do all these other things in my life later on. | ||
| And when I really look back at when I kind of reverse engineer and I think of like, why... | ||
| Why am I so bold and why am I so ambitious and driven and all these things? | ||
| It really started from the core and crux of it all came from exercise. | ||
| And so to me, that's one habit that I think is fundamental for people to really partake in. | ||
| And not just a little bit. | ||
| I think that you've got to take it somewhat seriously. | ||
| And I think once you do and you see the effects of what it does for your life and all aspects of your life, it takes on a whole world of itself. | ||
| And it kind of leads... | ||
| It's kind of like the gateway drug to all these other things that you can accomplish in your life. | ||
| So which do you think is more important then? | ||
| Is it the habit or is it the hustle? | ||
| Is it just like the routine or is it like the relentlessness? | ||
| It's 50-50? | ||
| Well, I think once you start building habits into your, and a routine, | ||
| the hustle, you then are someone who is much more committed to getting to the goal that you want, | ||
| which means then you have to hustle to get it. | ||
| And also, I think the exercise teaches you work ethic, right, because you need to, | ||
| that's one thing in the world and one thing in life that you can't buy, right? | ||
| You can't buy a good physique. | ||
| You can't buy a good body. You can buy everything else in life. | ||
| You can make money and buy a car. | ||
| You can buy a house. You can buy clothes. | ||
| You can go to a nice hair salon and get your hair done. | ||
| But you can't fake a good body. | ||
| Yeah, you can go to a plastic surgeon and get some tummy tuck, boob job, a nose. | ||
| But you know what? Like, a body is earned. | ||
| And I think there's something that comes with that. | ||
| You know? Right. You do live in L.A. where they can do a lot of... | ||
| Well, I live in Miami. | ||
| I was going to say. There's a lot of fake asses down here. | ||
| A lot of fake asses. | ||
| I think there's a lot of fake asses now everywhere. | ||
| Plastic surgery has become a massive business beyond just for the rich and famous. | ||
| It's become, you know, very, very prevalent and popular for like 18, 19, 20-year-old peak girls who are like going to Starbucks and they're like, yeah, I'm going to get my nose done tomorrow. | ||
| Oh yeah, I'm going next week. | ||
| Like it's become very. | ||
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| Yeah, what do you make of that trend? | ||
| There's this huge thing now, you're seeing a little backlash on it on Instagram or some of these things, that young girls started doing all of this. | ||
| So like 17 or 18 or 20 year old girls who have just no reason to be doing any of this, fillers and injections and all of this stuff, and they start looking much older. | ||
| It's actually kind of insane. | ||
| It's crazy. They start looking like 60 year old women who are trying to look 40 when they're actually 18. | ||
| Yeah. You know what's so crazy, Dave? | ||
| First of all, I'm going to send you something. | ||
| I'm going to send you a video that I saw on Instagram. | ||
| It's so creepy because I saw this video of like nine women and they would say like how old they are. | ||
| Like I'm 25 and I've gotten, you know, I have Botox filled. | ||
| They go on. I think I saw this. | ||
| Do you see this thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they all look older. | ||
| They all look much older. | ||
| I couldn't believe that these girls who are saying that they're 22, 24, 26... | ||
| No joke. They looked older than me. | ||
| Right. Because they end up looking like, as I said, like 50 or 60 year old trying to look 40. | ||
| And suddenly they look, yeah. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| And the girl, like, I don't know what it is. | ||
| I think because what's happened is I think we're so... | ||
| We have like a dysmorphia. | ||
| I don't know what the word is, but I think we've all been so conditioned to believe a different version of what beauty is now, right? | ||
| Like the beauty is, and maybe it's different. | ||
| I live in LA, but fake lips, fake, you know, tons of filler, like a lower facelift. | ||
| I'm just making that like, whatever it is. | ||
| A lower facelift? Like a lower facelift, which I thought I don't have, but I'd like, but anyway, I'm just joking. | ||
| But that's a whole other story. | ||
| But what I'm saying is that like I think it's become like this like new version of beauty. | ||
| Do you remember when Kate Moss was the biggest thing in the world? | ||
| She could fall through. There was a funny thing they did in Family Guy where she just like fell through a crack on the street. | ||
| Exactly. Because like The waif was really in. | ||
| And then with the Kardashians, a whole new version of what beautiful was, right? | ||
| With the big fake butts and this. | ||
| I'm not even saying they have a fake butt. | ||
| I don't want to get defamation lawsuits around. | ||
| But you know what I'm saying? People can judge for themselves. | ||
| Exactly. But what has been considered beautiful has changed and morphed over all these years. | ||
| And now what I think that people, because of social media and Instagram and all of these fake phony... | ||
| Influencer, beauty influencers, or just regular people who are now so full of plastic surgery, that has now become what people believe to be beautiful. | ||
| And if you're natural and you're normal, that's considered ugly. | ||
| And I think what's happened is COVID really fucked us up. | ||
| Because what happened was people were looking at their natural, normal face on Zooms all day. | ||
| It's interesting, yeah. | ||
| And all they were noticing was all their imperfections. | ||
| And when you're on Instagram, you're using a filter. | ||
| Most people are using filters. | ||
| So now you're not even seeing yourself as you really are. | ||
| You're only seeing yourself with a filter. | ||
| So when you don't look at yourself with a filter and you're only seeing yourself in natural form, like on a Zoom or just like in a mirror, you're horrified. | ||
| Of how you look. Right. | ||
| Which then creates a situation where why? | ||
| Plastic surgery is up like a thousand percent. | ||
| You can't even get an appointment with these people. | ||
| And prices for plastic surgery has skyrocketed to like, I don't know, let's say a nose job used to be | ||
| 5,000, 8,000, 10,000, it's now like 25,000. | ||
| And you can't even get in to see a doctor. | ||
| And I think it's become a real sad state of affairs. | ||
| And then that's kind of what's happening with women. | ||
| Like their body image and their self-esteem is wrapped up in this like fake and phony world | ||
| that's not even real in the first place, right? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Do you find that people can't, they just can't seemingly start to fix themselves? | ||
| Because if you think about it, mostly I do politics here or culture stuff. | ||
| I've done a bunch of shows on health and wellness and that sort of thing, particularly over the last year or so. | ||
| But I find that generally people can't really start. | ||
| What really changed me in the last year and a half was I started playing basketball with these guys down here. | ||
| And then I was sweating a lot. | ||
| And then I was like, wait, I've lost a little weight. | ||
| And then when some of them started bringing their kids that I referenced before, I was like, wait a minute. | ||
| I want to be able to play with my kids one day. | ||
| I already started late. I wasn't a dad until 46. | ||
| So if I want to be playing with them when they're 16, I got to really stay in shape now. | ||
| So for me, it wasn't like a physical thing, like, oh my God, I need abs. | ||
| It was more like there's a real tangible reason for my life and for my children that I want to be able to be okay. | ||
| But I find a lot of people just can't start or something. | ||
| Well, I think that... I think the stop is always in the start, right? | ||
| That's the hardest part is to, or start in the stop, whatever. | ||
| It's because it is the hardest part. | ||
| Because whenever you become used to, that becomes your new normal and that becomes your habit, right? | ||
| So to start a new thing and be consistent with it is really, really difficult. | ||
| That's why I tell people that you should never start anything. | ||
| You should always have a bigger reason and a bigger why to why you're doing it. | ||
| If you just want to have like a six-pack, it may or may not last, right? | ||
| It will not last. Your motivation. | ||
| Motivation will not, and you should never rely on motivation. | ||
| You should only rely on discipline, because discipline will take you much further in life | ||
| than motivation will ever. | ||
| So to have a bigger why as to why you're doing it, and then to also start with small things, | ||
| right? | ||
| Like make a commitment to yourself that you can do something small and then follow through. | ||
| And I think what happens a lot of times, people don't follow through, and then they become | ||
| really shameful and ashamed that they didn't, and then that takes them down a bad rabbit | ||
| hole where they won't do it again. | ||
| Did you also notice that during COVID there was like a sort of a month or two where people kind of got into better shape or something like that? | ||
| Yeah. And even if you were supposed to be at home, people were somehow working out one way or another. | ||
| And then suddenly, once it was like three months in after they kept saying, keep ordering Chinese food and pizza and don't go out and anything, then everyone started getting fat. | ||
| And I think there's been some studies on this that people like 18 to 25 gained like seven pounds each over that, you know, something. | ||
| I'm screwing up the numbers a little bit. | ||
| What I noticed was there's two groups of people. | ||
| There was either one group of people that got really fit and really started to dial in their health and their fitness and kind of became consistent with it because they had nothing else to do, or they were home more than they... | ||
| They weren't able to go out, obviously, so they spent that time exercising. | ||
| And then there was the other cohort who actually gained a lot of weight. | ||
| And they started to drink more, they started to eat more, they started to basically become degenerates of the time. | ||
| And I think there was two groups of those people that happened. | ||
| And so I really thought there was a 50-50 split. | ||
| That's what I noticed a lot. | ||
| Yeah. I don't know if it's, I mean, who knows? | ||
| I noticed it was both. | ||
| I noticed it was both. But remember, like, it's like also, I'm in the space of health, wellness, optimizing your life, productivity. | ||
| So I'm going to, I'm going to look at the, I'm going to be much more gravitating to the people who actually ended up doing Because those are the people who I was talking to. | ||
| I was involved in a lot of these home fitness programs as a strategy and brand person for a lot of these brands and companies. | ||
| So I was really involved in that side. | ||
| But I would say the pendulum has swung now back. | ||
| I would be curious what's happened, what it is now. | ||
| Are you saying now that there have become... | ||
| No, I don't know. | ||
| I'll tell you what now is happening. | ||
| Everything has trends, right? | ||
| It was during that, it was that. | ||
| It was what we're talking about. | ||
| Now it's all about these GLP-1s, like Ozempic, all these weight loss injections. | ||
| That's what everybody is doing now. | ||
| That is like the new kale. | ||
| It used to be kale was a big deal. | ||
| I'm pretty sure Kale's better for you than Ozempic. | ||
| Like, I don't know exactly what's going on there, but like, I've seen some people on Ozempic that it just, yes, you look better for a little bit, but then something starts happening to your face and it just can't be good for you. | ||
| How do I get sued by Ozempic? | ||
| But it can't be. You won't be sued by it. | ||
| I think this is like a, this actually is like a hot topic, right? | ||
| Especially in my world, because, uh, Almost everybody, if you look around California, people who actually do have diabetes aren't even able to get the medication because every rich housewife is now taking all the meds. | ||
| So now they have all these. | ||
| You can buy it in a compound form, though, right? | ||
| And it's much cheaper. | ||
| So now I think there's more readily available. | ||
| But this is what people are doing. | ||
| And the real harm is that people are not learning healthy habits. | ||
| Right. Taking the easy way out. | ||
| And what's happening is, which is very, very scary and detrimental to your health, is when you're not exercising and working out and you are aging, you're losing all of your lean muscle mass. | ||
| Because when you lose fat, you're also losing muscle with these GLP-1s, right? | ||
| And so what happens is the pendulum swings the other way, and then you end up actually becoming more fat than you were before. | ||
| I know a guy, he probably watches the show, so he's not going to be happy. | ||
| I'm not going to say his name, but he was one of my good friends in LA. You may have crossed paths with this guy, who is a little kind of chunky, but he loves steaks. | ||
| And he was one of the people that really got me into tequila and loved life and joyous. | ||
| Got an Ozempic, lost a lot of weight, so I suppose he looks better to an extent. | ||
| Barely eats. Had them over. | ||
| Made a freaking Wagyu tomahawk. | ||
| Took one bite, couldn't do it. | ||
| Barely could get down one gulp of tequila. | ||
| Like, it takes away the joys of life. | ||
| It does. Then what is the point? | ||
| So you're skinny, starting to look a little scary, and you don't, I mean, to me, if you don't like food, like, what's the point? | ||
| Well, I agree. And I also think what happens, there's two things to that. | ||
| The first thing is, what people don't talk about is that a lot of people who are on these drugs are very nauseous all the time. | ||
| They have zero energy. | ||
| Yeah. Not to mention... | ||
| Yeah, no. Well, as I said, he was boisterous and joyous and whatever, and he was just kind of dour. | ||
| He's probably like... He's also starving, for God's sake. | ||
| Even if he doesn't think he's starving. | ||
| So the neurotransmitter in your brain shuts off to tell you you're hungry, let's say. | ||
| But your body is starving. | ||
| Your body is saying, please feed me. | ||
| And it's just... | ||
| You're not able to eat. | ||
| which is interesting because what I've actually heard and noticed a lot was that like anything in life, | ||
| that the more you do something, your body will acclimate to it. | ||
| And so again, you can't change your behavior. | ||
| It's not changing your behavior. | ||
| So eventually you'll get hungry again because medicine can, like if you're taking, | ||
| let's say whatever the dosage is, let's say whatever it is, like five or 0.5, let's say, | ||
| but then eventually your body gets used to that. | ||
| So unless you, let's say, increase that medication again, your body will then acclimate and then you'll start to be hungry because the effects of it are not working as well. | ||
| So where do you go eventually? | ||
| You can't just keep on increasing a dose and dose. | ||
| One day you're in the back alley. | ||
| Shooting crap. | ||
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| So let's shift in the remaining time away from the physical part for a second and talk a little bit about the mental part because the habits and the hustle are also largely mental. | ||
| I will tell you one thing that has hugely helped me in the last two years. | ||
| And I guess this is somewhat, well, it is somewhat physical, but I think it's helped on the sort of mental side, which is I try if possible, and I can't always do it, but a couple days a week, I try to get a 20-minute nap in around 3 o'clock. | ||
| And I have found that that has been unbelievably helpful for me. | ||
| In terms of productivity for work, whether I'm in the studio or not, but especially having kids with boundless energy, it's not even that I'm sleeping for those 20 minutes exactly. | ||
| It's just that I just put my head on the pillow for a second, the phone's there 20 minutes, I set the timer, and just to just that, Allows me to have like a little bit of a reset in the day. | ||
| That's just one thing that I... Really? | ||
| You know what I find? | ||
| I mean, there's a lot of back research that napping is great. | ||
| If I'm not a napper, I'm not able to do that. | ||
| Like, it's really, really difficult for me to just, you know, find 20 minutes during the day. | ||
| Well, you're hopped up on all your adaptogens. Yeah, exactly. | ||
| All my nootropics. Ryan, I should have brought you my magic wand. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. What happened? I think I sent you a bunch. | ||
| Did you take any? I never got it. | ||
| I got the slate. | ||
| I got the slate, which I already had a ton of slate. | ||
| Yeah, I know you already had it. I sent you a ton of magic wand. | ||
| Yeah, no, we never got it. | ||
| Okay, I also brought you a lumen. | ||
| Have you ever used a lumen? I have a lumen. | ||
| They're a sponsor of the Rubin Report. | ||
| Are you serious? And they'll give you all, you blow into that thing, next thing you know, when you're supposed to eat. | ||
| Okay, well, I'm not going to give you the one I brought. | ||
| It's the best thing. I do. | ||
| I think I have two. You do? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you use it? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, because I love it. | ||
| It just gamifies my whole metabolism, which is what I like. | ||
| You blow into that thing, it says, oh, you're burning fat, you're burning carbs, you're burning both, right? | ||
| Well, everyone that's watching this has probably heard me read ads for it, but in essence, it's constantly telling you what you're—it's gauging your metabolic health, basically, or when you're burning fat, when you need food, in essence. | ||
| It's basically another tool in the toolbox where it helps you kind of get your metabolic | ||
| health in order. | ||
| It basically monitors your CO2. | ||
| So it tells you if you're burning fat or carbs, like you said, and then if you're burning | ||
| one, what you can do to kind of optimize your nutrition and whatever you're doing. | ||
| So it tells you in the morning you're burning too many carbs. | ||
| Maybe you should switch to eating more protein. | ||
| But it's another... | ||
| I like that tool because it's fun. | ||
| I'm not a big person who's wearing my sleep trackers and all those things because I got over them really fast. | ||
| And I felt like those things were giving me a lot of stress. | ||
| I'm not sleeping enough? | ||
| Well, why not? Any tool like that can do that. | ||
| I got EatSleep, which was also a sponsor, and I think that has also really, really helped. | ||
| Ace is really good, too. | ||
| I like that. Have you tried the chili bed thing? | ||
| No, it's not. It's like a mattress. | ||
| Well, eight sleep gives you chill. | ||
| By the way, I like eight sleep, too. | ||
| You know what? I just find, like, all of these things are a nice additive, but, like... | ||
| They're not the ultimate. You have to be doing the things yourself. | ||
| All those things are fun, but it's about what you eat. | ||
| It's about exercise. | ||
| It's about basic stuff. | ||
| But to get back to your nap, just because you're asking me about the nap, I think another great thing to quiet your mind, and I'm not good at it at all, but people say it's been the number one change for their stress levels, is just something basic like meditation. | ||
| You don't need a nap. You could use one if you want. | ||
| But it's like just sitting still and sitting quietly in your own In your own space for even like a minute can like really lower your stress levels and your cortisol. | ||
| But I think, you know, again, it's all about doing these little things. | ||
| But to answer your question, like that all is, it's all these little habits. | ||
| What works for you may not work for somebody else. | ||
| And what works for me may not work for you. | ||
| But it's about like figuring it, like you have to try a lot of things. | ||
| It's like you got to kiss a lot of frogs to find the prince, right? | ||
| Yeah. It's really about trial and error. | ||
| What are some of the habits you've consistently seen that successful people? | ||
| People who really kind of have it together. | ||
| However you would quantify success. | ||
| I would say exercise is always, but very regularly. | ||
| And taking it seriously, like I said, fitness, number one, is always across the board. | ||
| People have said meditation has been a real big one. | ||
| Then you have all these other things, right? | ||
| I think... Mm-hmm. | ||
| And they can be like, for me, I'm a big person eating protein every morning, right? | ||
| Because it satiates me, it balances my blood sugar, so then my brain works better. | ||
| I think another big one is like... | ||
| For drinking, I take a whole lemon, not just squeeze the lemon, I take the rind and I put that whole thing in water and I eat that in the morning. | ||
| Again, it's just like a detoxifier. | ||
| These are all things that they're not just for your overall well-being. | ||
| It's not because I want to get abs or a great ass from it, but it puts you in... | ||
| You do things for your health that help optimize you, that really has a ripple effect later on. | ||
| And like you can do other things like reading 10 pages a day to help with your brain and for your memory and all these other things to keep things like cognitively going well. | ||
| Do you think that most people just don't do these things because of this? | ||
| I know. I mean, is this it, really? | ||
| We sort of hit that earlier, but it's basically like, yeah, I'm going to have a good routine at night, and then you get into bed, and it's 10. | ||
| I mean, even I'm pretty aware of all this stuff. | ||
| I try to go to bed a little bit earlier than I used to now, so I'm usually trying to go to bed about 10.30 or so, which is pretty good. | ||
| Like, I'll watch one thing, and then that's it. | ||
| Golden Girls, we know. Golden Girls, I do with cardio. | ||
| I've sent you pictures. But I'll try to, but you know, I'll be like, all right, I'm not going to look. | ||
| I used to never have the phone in the room at night now because the kids, I keep it. | ||
| But like, I'll be like, all right, I'm not going to touch it. | ||
| And the next thing I know, 20 minutes have gone by and then I'm like, whoa. | ||
| Where was I? Isn't that insane? | ||
| So to me, it's all been the demise of the smartphone since 2012. | ||
| Not to go back to the first part of this, but I think that... | ||
| Imagine if you and I, who are grown adults, can't keep ourselves off the phone, would you expect a child to do that, right? | ||
| But that also is just sucking the life out of all of us. | ||
| That's why if you haven't noticed, just even adults, forget about kids. | ||
| People aren't even able to... | ||
| Connect and socialize because they are addicted to the phone and to the following count that they have and the engagement that they have. | ||
| And everything now has become digitized and all about technology. | ||
| And it's ruining everything. | ||
| At the end of the day, you know the number one key to longevity is? | ||
| Well, it's either... | ||
| Like, health, meaning, well, of course, health. | ||
| No. I don't know, being around family, probably, something like that. | ||
| The number one key to longevity is relationships. | ||
| Having a strong social connection to a community or at least one person. | ||
| And if you don't have that, like your health will rapidly decline | ||
| and you will die much younger than people who actually have a close, | ||
| at least one person that they can connect to. | ||
| Right, you always hear those stories about couples that have been married 70 years. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The husband dies, now she's gone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Three weeks later or vice versa, something like that. | ||
| No, it's true. | ||
| And I think that this has become the demise of it. | ||
| Like people don't even, you know, people don't even date anymore | ||
| besides the person that we just met that, you know, the guy who works with you. | ||
| One of my guys literally left early to go on a date. | ||
| Gotta go to Fort Lauderdale to find a chick. | ||
| God bless him. But you know what, though? | ||
| God bless him, Phoenix. | ||
| Because I'll tell you why. Sorry, man. | ||
| You're busted. He's putting the effort in. | ||
| He's getting into his car. | ||
| He's driving a far distance in real time to meet a human being. | ||
| Do you know how people just do not do that anymore? | ||
| Especially, like, how old is he? | ||
| 23? God bless him. | ||
| Yeah. You know that guys, that this is like a whole thing about men, like guys are not dating anymore. | ||
| Yeah. They're not dating anymore. | ||
| I mean, is that all porn too? | ||
| Because it's just like off, it's just off, like off-boarded the sex part of it. | ||
| Like you can just get, in essence, you can get sex whenever you want it. | ||
| Well, number one, porn, but where are they getting porn? | ||
| Online, right? | ||
| So, like, yeah. And you can now go on Instagram, and you can, like, basically, half of these people on Instagram, you might as well... | ||
| You're watching soft porn. | ||
| You think these fitness videos are supposed to show you what a squat looks like and what a bicep girl looks like? | ||
| Right, the girl that's got, like, the camera, like... | ||
| Upper ass. No, I'm serious. | ||
| And by the way, I'm one of them. No, I'm joking. | ||
| I do my fitness videos all the time and I'm not doing it like that. | ||
| But what I'm saying is, do you know how many guys follow my page? | ||
| Like I have 50% men and they're not following me necessarily for habits and hustle. | ||
| They like my fitness videos, right? | ||
| And believe me, I'm old. | ||
| They don't even care about me. What I'm saying is there's a fine line between like sex and And a lot of the very provocative, let's say, content on social media. | ||
| And I'm just being honest. Like, that's what it is. | ||
| It's funny. You just offhandedly said, I'm old, right? | ||
| Yeah. Do you feel that 48 is old? | ||
| No. Or was that completely flippant? Because it's interesting for me, I hang out with a lot of people in their mid to early 20s and early 30s. | ||
| So from my day to day, I'm usually the oldest. | ||
| Yeah. But I find that I really like hanging out with older people in general also. | ||
| So it's a little bit of both worlds, I suppose. | ||
| You and I are so similar. But when I'm playing basketball with these two over here, I know I'm not 22 anymore. | ||
| Well, you know what's funny? I think that, like, I was just saying this the other day. | ||
| I still feel like I'm 22. | ||
| Don't you? Until something kind of reminds me I'm not. | ||
| Until I have to run without a brace on my knee or something. | ||
| Until, like, I'm, like, basically I'm kvetching because I hurt my knee and I couldn't move as fast. | ||
| But in our... I think that, like... | ||
| I believe I'm still the same young 22-year-old that I'm not. | ||
| I'm very flippant when I say, oh yeah, I'm old now. | ||
| I don't feel old. | ||
| I don't think I necessarily look 120. | ||
| I feel that I'm also in a very youth culture. | ||
| So are you. What we do has a lot of youth and young energy around us that keeps us young. | ||
| Plus, like I was saying earlier, if you want to be young and want to stay young... | ||
| Create habits and rituals that keep you young. | ||
| Exercise. Walk a lot. | ||
| Walking is the number one exercise. | ||
| People can laugh at me all they want, but I think walking a lot is so good, not just for your physical health, but for your mental health. | ||
| For your mental health, it helps you with being focused and thinking and being creative. | ||
| And so all of these things, like these healthy habits that they seem, like I said earlier, like These things seem very frivolous, you know, like, oh yeah, they're just stupid, like, oh yeah, like walking and like maybe exercise. | ||
| But the people who I see who've done these things, you know, consistently over time have truly optimized their lives, not just professionally, but personally. | ||
| They're the most successful, not just professionally, but personally, because they've trained themselves to like, to To what is important in their lives and like figure out that if you want something bad enough, you need to work for it, you need to be consistent with it, you need to practice it. | ||
| Let me try something here to end this show. | ||
| Would you say it is fair that you should have a little bit of each golden girl in your life? | ||
| You should have the world weariness and thoughtfulness and education of a Dorothy. | ||
| You should have the spunk of a Sophia. | ||
| You should have a little bit of the naivete of a rose. | ||
| And you should get laid every now and again. | ||
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I love it. | |
| How about that? How about that? | ||
| I absolutely love that. | ||
| Which one do you think you're the most like? | ||
| No, absolutely, Dorothy. | ||
| Just the way that she viewed the world in like a very... | ||
| She saw it how it is, wanted it to be better. | ||
| It wasn't always better. | ||
| And she definitely had better shoulder pads than I do. | ||
| Listen, by far the best shoulder pads I've ever seen. | ||
| I wish they would remake the show, but it will never happen. | ||
| Yeah, sitcoms are kind of dead and we've remade everything into oblivion. | ||
| I agree. By the way, one other question. | ||
| Do you like Curb Your Enthusiasm? | ||
| I agree. I do. Although the last season was terrible and it was time to go. | ||
| Okay, it's so funny you said that. I'm saving it. | ||
| I still haven't seen it because I'm saving it. | ||
| The last two seasons were pretty bad, but the last season was just like, they just had nothing left. | ||
| Larry had nothing left. I think he's just over it. | ||
| Yeah. Well, there was just, you know, you can listen to people complain about things for so long and then he just kind of... | ||
| Exactly. I agree with you, actually. | ||
| Any final thoughts? | ||
| That seems like an odd way to end on a show that jumped a shark. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Any final thoughts? Can you come back on my show so I can get taunted and tortured again? | ||
| Did they really banged up your reviews? | ||
| They started one-starring? | ||
| They were DMing me, personally being like, I'm unsubscribing to you. | ||
| I've got about 30 unsubscribes because of you. | ||
| Yes. Subscribe to Habits and Hustle with Jen Cohen. | ||
| Thank you. At least 30 of you. | ||
| Can we get 31 subscriptions out of this thing? | ||
| Let's go. Can you please tell your people to subscribe? | ||
| I did. Reiterate it because I've lost so many because of you. | ||
| And also follow me on Instagram with the real Jen Cohen. | ||
| I'm going to go play basketball. | ||
| Go play basketball. Goodbye. | ||
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