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There's an awful lot going on in the world, and today's show really, every now and again we get a show that just completely writes itself, because it's part two, in essence, of yesterday's show.
If you did not watch yesterday's show, you're jumping in in part two of the movie, not only because it involves two brothers saying things, but the absolute messaging about what really is going on in the world right now, particularly politically, It's becoming more and more obvious to a lot of people and you know when I came back on the grid on Tuesday I said that the Big Ten thing this RFK widening of the Trump movement and whatever is going on the conservative side of the aisle and the Republican movement and Donald Trump something is brewing and I think that really is coming to fruition right now.
So we're gonna start with Today's show with some clips from Brett Weinstein.
Yesterday we started the show with clips of his brother, Eric Weinstein, who's an economist and mathematician.
Brett, of course, is a, was, I should say was, not is, was a professor at Evergreen State, the most lefty progressive college in In all of the United States, and most of you know his story already, he's been on the show many times, about six years ago or so, Evergreen decided to have a day where they would uninvite white kids to campus in the name of tolerance.
Brett made the point of saying, well, that's kind of racist.
And he and his wife, Heather Hying, who is also a professor at Evergreen, they were basically violently chased off campus and neither one of them have their tenure jobs at Evergreen anymore.
So Brett has kind of woke up politically, a lefty most of his life.
He's also been very red-pilled as it came to COVID and a bunch more.
Anyway, he went on the Joe Rogan podcast.
Have you heard of this Joe Rogan guy?
And he talked about what is going on right now with Donald Trump and this ever-growing movement that I've been talking about.
joe rogan
Well, which is one of the reasons why they're so terrified of Trump.
There's a certain amount of stealing they can do.
Let's imagine if it is dirty and you really can manipulate elections.
How much can you manipulate it by?
Can you manipulate it by 30%?
You know, because we don't know.
bret weinstein
To your point about how much can they cheat, I call that factor, which none of us can put a number on.
Maybe they can.
joe rogan
Right.
bret weinstein
I call it the cheat factor, right?
The cheat margin.
And one of the things that I'm trying to convince people of is that it's not hopeless because they can cheat, but it means that you have to succeed at a level that exceeds their capacity to erase it.
joe rogan
Right.
So that's what we're talking about.
So we're talking about like, maybe they can cheat by 10%.
bret weinstein
Right.
And what we know, and I think actually, we owe Trump a huge debt of gratitude for proving something that I couldn't have told you if it was true before he won the presidency, which is Is there still enough democracy left in the system for something to upend the plan?
Because he was clearly off-narrative, and he did become president, so he did something for us that I don't know anybody else who could have done it.
dave rubin
So I want to hit the last point first, that Trump won once already when nobody said he could.
Do not forget that.
In 2015, as we were rolling into that 2016 election, everyone said he could not win, and he did.
That was the blip in the system.
That was the aberration in the system.
That seems to be why the system is trying to make sure that it cannot happen again.
For those of you guys that have been with me for years and years, you may remember that on that election night, the Hillary Trump election night, when Trump won, I was live on air with the Daily Wire guys, with Ben Shapiro and Michael Knowles and Andrew Klavan and a bunch of others.
And Andrew Klavan said something to me that I've repeated on this show before, but I think it's one of the most, not only profound, but like inspirational thoughts I've had about America.
You know, Trump wins that night, everybody was like, WTF, what is going on here?
And Klavan, who was, I don't think he was a Trump supporter, he certainly was not a Hillary supporter, but was not a Trump supporter, and I was not a Trump supporter, and Ben did not support, nobody in that room, as far as I know, maybe Knowles did, I'm not sure.
Yeah, okay, so Knowles did the first time around.
But we were all shocked, and what Clavin said, as a non-Trump supporter back then, that night, when everyone was blown away by what just happened, Clavin said, you know, actually, if you think about it, what an amazing thing just happened here in the United States.
How many countries exist where the thing that everyone says can't happen, happens?
How many countries exist like that?
The U.S.
might be literally the last one.
Now to get that to where we are in the conversation you just heard with Brett and Joe, it's like, that's kind of what we need right now, and the question is, What level can the system F with us on that?
Now, interestingly, it's like there you have Joe Rogan and Brett Weiss talking about election interference and everything else.
These are things you couldn't even talk about on YouTube a couple years ago.
So again, whatever remains of the free internet, enough of us talking about stuff.
allows more of us to talk about it, right?
Because they can't ban and shadow ban and silence and censor and delete everybody.
They can't, they can do it to an awful lot of people and they can do things we don't know,
but they can't do it to everybody.
So there you have the world's largest podcaster being like, so what can we do to avoid the cheat?
What can we do to avoid the steal?
Brett calls it the cheat margin.
And it's interesting because what I agree with Brett, I agree with Brett, a guy who did not vote for Trump,
it's like, you need to overload the system this time.
You have to make sure that it's not so close they can do this or that or the other thing.
You have to overwhelm the system so that it becomes so obvious that it cannot not happen.
You need a blowout.
I think that was what Rogan said.
You need a blowout.
I want to throw to one other clip because they talked about what would happen.
And this is the bigger part.
Why do I keep talking about this Big Ten thing?
What gets us out of this?
Look, if Trump becomes president again, I get it.
There will be a certain amount of people.
They're going to think Hitler's back and they'll burn down the cities and they're going to always hate everything any Republican would do and all of that stuff.
But imagine if he won in a blowout, and not only won in a blowout, but won in a blowout where RFK came along, and Tulsi Gabbard came along, and guys like me, and some of you guys, and someone like Joe Rogan, and someone like Brett Weinstein.
Suddenly it starts looking like the biggest, sort of widest, panoply of what America could be.
And imagine what America might be if that happened.
Here's Brett.
bret weinstein
I don't know.
I do think unity is the right message.
I think this is exactly the moment at which people do come together because many people feel the jeopardy.
I sincerely hope that what President Trump discovered when he brought Bobby Kennedy on board continues to grow in his mind because I think actually he has the potential to lead a massive movement to restore the republic and make it
function. And that would be I think it would be wonderful for him. I think he would go
down in history as not the polarizing figure that people seem intent on turning him into, but he
would go down in history as a galvanizing figure, as really a re-founder of the
country.
I know that will be hard for many people who have thought ill of him to swallow, but I don't know what you think, but the joining of the Trump campaign and Bobby Kennedy... And Tulsi.
And Tulsi.
dave rubin
Okay, so it's all the stuff that I've been talking about for a long time, and it could be happening right now.
And I do think, I'll one-up you on that one, Brett, I do think Donald Trump is hearing it.
I think it is extremely obvious.
I think that's exactly why he brought RFK on board.
I think that's exactly why he was clearly talking to Tulsi and figuring out maybe she could be part of this or whatever.
I think it's why Elon is now seeing this thing in Donald Trump.
Like, this is the chance, and if Trump Here's that message loud and clear.
You could be part of the re-founding of America.
Enough of the wokeness.
Enough of the never-ending globalist, giant government nonsense.
Enough of the endless lies and all of that.
It's like Trump is genuinely the last chance.
And that's a hell of a script.
It's a hell of a thing to be saying.
Again, it's like when you think back, you're 1985.
If you're like, and one day Hulk Hogan will be ripping his shirt off at the Republican National Convention a week after Donald Trump got shot and he had already been president and was trying to become president again, you'd say you were completely insane.
And yet here we are.
I wanna show you one other of Brett.
This actually took place in August on the PBD podcast, but Phoenix showed it to me this morning and I thought it really drives home The point that Brett was making in the previous video of how we can restore this thing.
bret weinstein
That clip is interesting.
They validated exactly what it was he was describing, which was a fake world that's presented over our screens by these mega-monolith corporations that decide what we get to know and when we get to know it.
And then to have CNN cut away, not able to engage in their usual level of stagecraft because they don't know what he's going to say, is incredible.
I was very interested in the way He navigated the idea.
This was not a simple endorsement of Trump.
This was an endorsement of retaking the White House and using that position to restore the Republic to its proper course.
unidentified
Does this cause a guy like you to be open to the idea of voting for Trump versus Kamala?
bret weinstein
Oh, absolutely.
Let me just be perfectly clear about this.
I think the modern Democratic Party is an existential threat to the Republic.
And although I am a Democrat, I've been a Democrat my whole life, the party that I see in front of me today is literally the inverse of the party I signed up for.
This is now the party of war.
This is the party of racism.
This is the party of censorship.
I don't recognize this party.
There is no conceivable scenario in which I would vote for Kamala Harris.
I just simply will not do it.
Am I open to voting for Trump?
unidentified
I am.
bret weinstein
I'm especially open to it if he is partnered with Bobby Kennedy because what that tells me is that my values, which are a much closer match for Bobby's, are represented in that administration.
And that's really what I want.
I want a coalition to redefine American politics because, frankly, we have a longstanding problem with corruption, which has now turned into something else.
dave rubin
Okay, I said it yesterday, but, you know, Ronald Reagan, some 50-odd years ago, who had been a Democrat, maybe even more than 50 years ago at this point, I didn't leave the Democrat Party.
The Democrat Party left me.
There was some guy who did a PragerU video about eight years ago called, Why I Left the Left.
More and more people are getting it.
You know, I'm always pushing Bill Maher on, are you going to make the right decision at the end of the day?
Brett is clearly like he's laying out the he gets it he's right there Brett needs like a quarter of an inch and I promise you I will get him on that quarter of an inch we'll do it right here in studio that I will I promise you that will happen before the election but it's obvious either way and there's no high hell That chance that he's voting for a Democrat.
And yes, the Democrats now are the party of war and they are the party of racism and a big government and printing money endlessly and allowing more people into this country and non-citizens voting and giving non-citizens money and all of those things.
And that has nothing to do with, say, the Democrat Party of 1984 or 1974 or even 1964.
But it's not just RFK, and it's not just Tulsi, and it's not just you, and it's not just me, it's Elon too.
And he, as I always say, he has now become the avatar for the free speech movement.
And if we can bring a guy like RFK to come in and he starts banging up the agencies a little bit and cleaning them up, cleaning them up, doing the right thing so that they do the job they were intended to do when they were originally set up.
And then you bring in Elon and he staffs properly.
I read that Elon Musk said that he would accept a position in your cabinet.
Donald Trump was on Sean Ryan's podcast and they started talking about Elon
and maybe what he could help with.
unidentified
I read that Elon Musk said that he would accept a position in your cabinet.
bret weinstein
Would that have to do with artificial intelligence?
unidentified
So Elon and I have a great relationship.
Yes.
He's great.
He is a totally unusual character.
Do you know Elon?
I don't.
He's great.
And he's smart.
And we have to cherish our geniuses.
You know, we don't have too many of them, right?
But he is a brilliant guy.
And what he really would like to do is get involved in cutting some of the fat.
And he does know how to do it.
Yeah, he wants to be involved.
Now, look, he's running big businesses and all that, so he can't really, I don't think he'd be cabinet.
I'd put him in the cabinet, absolutely, but I don't know how he could do that with all the things he's got going.
But he can sort of, as the expression goes, consult with the country and give you some very good ideas.
dave rubin
We have to cherish our geniuses.
To me, that's a top 20 Trump line right there.
But you get the point.
Again, Elon, lifelong Democrat.
And there's Trump saying, he could be in my cabinet.
And then it's perfect Trump, because he's also saying the other part that's true, which is, he probably wouldn't do it, because he's trying to get us to Mars, and he's putting satellites all over the place, and he's trying to fight for free speech with Twitter and everything else.
But the point is, Elon would obviously, at this point, he has said it himself, not only support Trump at least some level financially in the campaign, but he will help him staff, right?
He will help him bring on the right people.
So now you've got RFK and he's doing the right thing and you've got Elon and you have all of this new blood and these people who have, who 10 years ago would have all been on the opposite sides of things.
But what are they uniting around?
It's not even that they're uniting around Trump, really.
They're uniting around what Trump now represents, which It just is, it is the last chance for an America that any of us recognize.
It's as simple as that.
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All right, so let's jump to some polling because one of the things that I was thinking about a lot over the over the month that I was gone, you know, they had just done the coup on Biden.
Okay, fine.
They install Kamala.
Everyone knows that no one voted for her.
It had nothing to do with a ground.
movement to bring her in.
No one thinks she's particularly bright.
Of course, there's some social justice points with her and everything else,
but what could they do to make it seem that the polls were tight or maybe that she was winning?
What could they do to show you that there's momentum?
And I guess she's a brat, that became a word in August or something like that.
Anyway, here is CNN showing you what's going on in battleground states between Trump and Kamala right now.
unidentified
The new CNN polling out today with an important look at the state of the race and the battlegrounds
that have proven to be most important.
Where things stand in six battlegrounds.
There is a whole lot of data.
We're gonna get into it.
The top line.
Paris has the advantage in Michigan and Wisconsin.
Trump has the advantage in Arizona.
And then there's the proof of just how close the race is 60 plus days out.
kate bolduan
They're essentially tied in the key battlegrounds Nevada, Georgia, and Pennsylvania.
unidentified
And if you look at the white voters without college degrees, this is a Trump-based constituency, obviously.
You see his huge numbers with this group.
You see that this is a trouble sign for Harris.
She also, in a place like Georgia, is not doing well with white college-educated voters.
She probably wants to make up some ground with white college-educated voters across these battlegrounds as well, Kate.
dave rubin
Okay, so something interesting is brewing here, and to jump back for a moment to the first clip we showed you, Trump needs a major win.
Not a little win, and where they'll, even if they were to give, even if he won by a little, they'll somehow make it seem like he didn't win, right?
I don't even mean cheating per se as much as, okay, maybe they'd let him be president, but he doesn't have a mandate to do anything because he barely won.
Like, who the hell knows?
But the fact that these battleground states, that Pennsylvania and Nevada and Michigan, that they are so freaking close right now, and look, anything can happen in 60 days.
Pandemic nine, the zombie invasion, Russia, Russia, Russia, like anything can happen, of course, but the fact that these things are so freaking close after the Trump indictments and the sham trials and everything they've done to him and all of the massaging they've done for Kamala and the fact that she wasn't even the candidate 60 days ago and everything else, it shows you something is brewing And it's brewing in particularly with groups of people that you might not think would be Trump supporters or certainly not Republicans.
And yet that shows you that Trump now represents something much bigger than, you know, your uncle's old Republican who is smoking a cigar and drinking scotch and talking about tax cuts.
Don Lemon, I guess he still exists.
He went out on the streets to talk to some women in Ohio and Chicago about who they're voting for.
And I think he was a bit surprised.
unidentified
How are you feeling about the election?
I'm going for Trump.
I feel like every time they don't want somebody who is good for us to win, they throw somebody black in our face thinking that's gonna, like, make us vote for the black person.
I voted for Obama because he was black.
I don't want to vote for her because she's the first black woman to run for president or to win.
I don't vote.
Well, I want Donald Trump.
I'm sorry.
I want Donald Trump.
Why do you apologize?
Well, I know nobody likes him, but we had good times with Donald Trump.
I'm running for Trump, so... You are?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, why?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I've just always been...
I'm a fan of his, so that's what I'm running for.
I used to be against Trump.
I used to live in Virginia.
I saw the bad side of it, but really moving to Cleveland, I saw the other side of it.
I'm supporting Trump.
You are?
Because?
Because it has to change.
It has to change, and now I vote more for what fits me better as a person, rather than voting for the black person or voting for the first woman, so.
dave rubin
What do you think about Kamala Harris?
unidentified
I'd like to say she phony and fake, you know what I'm saying?
So, like, you know, I'm like Trump saying, you know, What are you, you know?
So I just, I'm not feeling her.
People get mad about it.
I'm just not feeling her.
I don't like her, the way she speaks, the giddiness, the laughing.
Everything's a joke and it's not a joke.
We're in trouble.
I'm going for Trump.
Kamala was on Biden's team and I don't like Biden.
Gas wasn't this high when Trump was our president.
Food wasn't this high.
I'm going for Trump.
dave rubin
All right, so for those of you listening to the audio podcast, most of those people appeared to be black.
Now, I don't care about people's skin color, but the woman in the middle there said something really nice.
She said, I'm going to vote for what fits me as opposed to skin color.
And isn't that something?
She literally said she voted for Obama because of skin color.
And I think an awful lot of people did do that and everyone had their reasons and okay,
representation matters and everything else.
But I don't think that thing is working on as many people.
I think way less people are looking at Kamala being like, she's the first black.
And there's also the question, is she black?
Is she Indian?
She celebrates Kwanzaa.
She grew up in Canada.
I don't know what the hell's going on there.
I don't even care.
But the point is that Don Lemon went out to these places and did not expect those answers.
And the more and more people that just look at the policies, it literally could not matter less what skin color or gender the president is.
What matters is do they put policies in place, do they have a vision for the country that will allow you to live the way you live, the way you wish.
Does their vision for the country make the founding of this country Stronger or weaker, and it's becoming so damn obvious that people who are largely apolitical or certainly thought of as on the other side of the aisle, they're coming around too.
So I would include all of those ladies in Chicago.
Congratulations, you're in the same bucket with Elon Musk and Brett Weinstein and Joe Rogan and a bunch of others.
Check this video out.
Here are, because everyone's obsessed with race, here are mixed race voters on MSNBC saying they don't like Kamala either.
vivek ramaswamy
Vote against him in November.
unidentified
Even though you disagree with Kamala Harris politically, do you feel some kinship towards her as a mixed person?
Not personally.
I find a lot of her trajectory to not be my brand of woman, leader.
We've got three major international crises going on and someone applying to be commander-in-chief.
As a woman, I want to see you do more than, you know, appeal to giggling and having a girl moment on the stage.
Was there ever a moment that sort of forced you to confront the concept of race?
For me, it's more about ethnicity.
As you guys can see, I have an ass.
dave rubin
First off, so those are all mixed race people.
Again, I don't care about race.
It would be, imagine me saying to you, Phoenix, one day, Phoenix, can you book six mixed race people on the show
and we'll get them in here and ask them about their mixed race?
Are they constantly fighting with themselves?
You ever see the movie, All of Me, with, it was with Steve Martin and Lily Tomlin
from like 1979, where she dies and then her spirit enters him
and he's fighting her the entire time.
That's what they want these people to be like.
Like, I have a black thought, I have a white thought.
It's just so stupid.
But that's what they do at MSNBC.
And they certainly did not expect that those people would be like, you know, we're just not, I'm not going to do it because of her gender or her skin color.
And she's an idiot.
And there are three crises and there are problems and she's giggling and everything else.
People are over it.
And that's why they want to censor us.
That's where we're at.
CNN has a guy with a horrible toupee named Frank Luntz who goes on their show.
He doesn't like me very much, but I'm still going to play a video of him because that's the type of guy I am.
And here he is talking about what Trump needs to do to win the debate based on current polling data.
unidentified
Who do I want to represent me two years from now, three or four years from now?
That's why Biden had to step aside when he did.
And that's the challenge for Harris right now.
You know, she did not do well in her presidential debate.
She did not shine.
And now she has to prove she has the capability to do it.
And Trump has to prove that he doesn't treat her rudely, obnoxiously, because he lost a lot of female voters in 2020 who would have voted for him over policy, but would not vote for him because of his persona.
If I was advising the campaign right now, which I do not, I'd say to him that silence, in some cases, is the best language.
That's silence.
Because he has questions that he can ask that she can't answer.
Why did inflation get so high under your administration?
What exactly are you going to do?
If your policies caused it, what can you do to solve it?
And most importantly, are you better off today than you were four years ago?
It's not my question.
That was Ronald Reagan's question.
If he asked that question plainly, he will be successful.
I don't believe he has the ability to do so.
dave rubin
I actually believe he does have the ability to do so.
And Frank Luntz, I don't know if you saw the debate with Joe Biden, but that was the most measured Donald Trump we had ever seen.
He let Biden falter without making fun of him.
His answer on abortion, that three minute answer on abortion, was the single best three moments probably of his entire career, in a sense, politically, discussing truly what he believes about something.
And of course the media lied about it and then said he still wants a national abortion ban.
And even when he talks about abortion, saying he doesn't want a national abortion ban and he wants to leave it to the states, which he knows is against his own base, he then said, I don't know if this helps me or hurts me politically.
It was the most honest and decent I think he has ever given a straight up political answer, right?
I think he has the discipline right now.
I think he realizes that the way you restore that founding that Brett was talking about at the top of the show is by now being measured.
You have the policies.
The culture is shifting.
The machine is freaking out.
More and more people are seeing through it.
And that is where we are at.
So we shall see because the debate, if I'm not mistaken, is September 10th.
It's a couple of days from now.
I guess we're gonna have to do an extra show that day.
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Okay, so as all of this is happening, as the polling is shifting, as the wide tent is widening, and more and more people are waking up, what can the machine do?
It can gaslight you.
It can lie to you.
That's what it does.
We put up a video on Twitter yesterday that when I did the comeback show with Sage a couple days ago, apparently 15 times in that show I said either lie or liars because that's all they do.
So she just introduced me to the news that I missed and my response was lie or liars.
That's all they got.
You don't have to explain it much more deeply than that.
Speaking of lies and liars, over on the televised mental institution known as MSNBC, Joe Scarborough, who I cannot believe this man is still on air.
A man who they literally had to take off air the day after Donald Trump got shot because they thought he was such a hack, but they bring him back just like they bring back Stelter and everybody else.
Here he is talking about somehow Trump flip-flopping and Kamala's the one that's bringing in the new voters, what?
joe scarborough
You look at the characteristics, all the things that Donald Trump was ahead of before Harris got in the race, he's now behind.
And I think the most striking thing, Mika, is that when you're looking and people are trying to sort through this race and what direction it's going, you just look at the favorable, unfavorables.
Donald Trump way up, upside down by, you know, close to 20 points in the 30s.
For for likable.
And then you have Kamala Harris actually upside.
I think it's like 46, 43.
That is a huge gap.
And the Trump campaign has said and if you see some of just the absolute crazed behavior and it's just it's really it's really almost too much to get your arms around.
And I understand that's the idea of it that they're there.
So the claims are so outrageous.
They're so disconnected from the truth.
Trump moving all over the place on issues from abortion to immigration, now saying we need more immigrants in the United States.
All of this stuff, the crazy stuff at Arlington, they're just, they're absolutely desperate.
And the campaign has said internally, They know they can never bring Donald—they can't make people like Donald Trump.
unidentified
Right.
joe scarborough
So their goal is to make people hate Kamala Harris.
unidentified
Yes.
joe scarborough
And that's where we are.
And if they can't get Americans to hate Kamala Harris, then they understand she will win.
dave rubin
I hate you, Joe Scarborough.
Everything he said there is the reverse of the truth.
As always, just get the mirror, dude, and you'll figure out who the bad guy is in this situation.
The idea that they can't get new people to like Donald Trump is absurd.
What did I just show you at the top of the show with Brent Weinstein?
How many times do I have to tell you about Elon Musk?
How many friends do you know that hated Donald Trump four years ago that suddenly are voting for him?
We all know those people.
We all know those people.
I did not vote for Donald Trump the first time around.
I did the second time, and I damn well will the third time.
Many of you watching this right now, I'm sure, are in that boat.
So it's a lie.
Oh, they can't get more people to like Donald Trump.
We all know people that now like Donald Trump that didn't.
It's completely reversed because Trump, because they know with Kamala, they can't get new people to like Kamala because, and they have no proof that anyone likes her other than there's a certain amount of people that if they just put in, it's just an NPC, you put in anyone and you put D next to them, a certain amount of people are gonna vote for it.
Again, no one has voted for her.
She was polling at basically One to two percent in her own primary when she dropped out the first time around.
You know, before I show you this next clip, I want to jump back to about a year ago during the Republican primary, which feels like 18 lifetimes ago.
But when I went to the one Republican, no, sorry, this wasn't the Republican primary.
This is this is over.
This is now over two years ago.
God, time flies fast.
When I went to the gubernatorial debate here in Florida between Ron DeSantis and Charlie Crist, one of the most interesting things that I saw that you don't see on television, because I went to the debate itself, is that they split the audience in half.
And on the DeSantis side, it was just all people.
It was people who came.
One person came with a friend or a husband, and it was all these different people.
Some of them were donors, some of them were, you know, Commentary class people like me, and then it was just supporters and whatever else, but it was all just different people.
The Charlie Criss side, the Democrat side, there was basically nobody there, and then suddenly about six buses showed up, and all of these women with pink shirts, and it was, I think they were from the department, they were from the teacher's union or something, they all just poured out of the bus, and suddenly the whole Charlie Criss side got filled.
And I think that's partly what we are seeing now, too.
We are seeing a movement of people that is the Donald Trump side of things, and then we are seeing something else, something very coordinated on the Kamala side of things.
So check this out.
This is 12 buses that are spotted leaving Kamala Harris's event in New Hampshire in the last day or so, which implies that people are being bused in.
This is not grassroots.
This is not bottom-up.
They are finding these people.
They are activists.
They are often paid, etc.
unidentified
Kamala Harris is in New Hampshire, it kind of became news this week, no details, Northampton, New Hampshire, at a brewery, Northampton, and yet I'm getting, and it's a New Hampshire event, Northampton happens to be in New Hampshire, we're getting listener calls, eyewitness accounts that buses on Route 1 are coming in from Massachusetts, full of Massachusetts People, one would presume, go into the event.
Sue Polidor, one of our listeners, witnessing this on Route 1 this morning.
Good morning, Sue.
Good morning, Jack.
I so happen to have an appointment in Hampton, and I was greeted with this lovely event.
Lots of yellow buses from the Yankee line.
I must have counted at least half a dozen of them.
And as I approached the area where the brewery is, The Department of Transportation created a parameter using just about every single truck they have in the area.
dave rubin
Okay, so look, this is just one moment of this, but there are many more moments of this.
Actually, it's a little bit like those Hamas protests all the time, where they bus in all of these people, and suddenly a zillion people in keffiyehs and terror flags and all of that show up in DC.
It's the same, well, I would argue that they're probably a lot of the same people.
But also, this is a movement of, why is it that every time Donald Trump does a rally, there's a gajillion people there?
unidentified
They're all colors and sexualities and genders and all that stuff.
dave rubin
And they're not being bused in from other states.
And when Kamala has to do it, it's the complete reverse.
But everything with these people is the complete reverse, right?
Literally everything.
So now let's go back to a man I hate.
Yes, I don't have a lot of hate in my heart.
And I tried to work through it in August, but the hate is back.
Joe Scarborough, here he is again.
unidentified
And just play the clip.
joe scarborough
If you're a capitalist, if you believe in American capitalism, as I believe in American capitalism, unapologetically believe in American capitalism, it has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system ever.
It has its problems.
The sharp edges always need to be rounded off where it doesn't get in the way of competition and free markets.
But if you believe in American capitalism, You should be worried about Donald Trump being elected.
We always talk about democracy.
We always talk about democracy.
Madisonian democracy under threat.
Because Madisonian democracy is under threat.
But American capitalism also under threat.
Because, I will tell you, I grew up a conservative.
I know you didn't.
But what we conservatives believe It is hatred that I have for that man.
dave rubin
I mean, like, what else would you have for him?
I don't even know how you could have any other... The woman next to him, his wife, I mean, she hates him.
It's obvious.
First, he sits there.
You like American capitalism.
Everything he says, he should be saying, if you like capitalism, if you think capitalism makes all the boats rise, if you think it's the greatest economic system, he should be sitting there saying, we've got to get the Democrats out of office.
Donald Trump loves capitalism.
In the dictionary one day, they should probably have Donald Trump's picture next to the word capitalism.
Donald Trump, when he was in office, what did he do?
He lowered taxes.
That means less money to the machine and more money to you.
And when you have more money, you spend it as you see fit and you build businesses and you buy things.
Kamala and Joe Biden and the Democrats have become the party basically of communism, of socialism, of Marxism.
They want to take as much from those who produce and rejigger the entire economy in the way they see fit.
That is the reverse of capitalism.
Joe Scarborough knows that, but he is a soulless sellout shill.
There's no other way to put it, okay?
And if you want an example of how Kamala will try to, and this is what the The entire Democrat movement is at this point.
Brett is right.
It is a threat to democracy.
It is a threat to this country at this point.
Again, I didn't want to come back after a month off and be so alarmist.
There's just no way around it.
But if you want evidence of what Kamala would do as president, she wants to make sure that the government is in every little part of every little business, including how much it costs to buy a freaking apple or a gallon of milk or a dozen eggs.
Go.
kamala harris
You are right.
Prices, in particular for groceries, are still too high.
The American people know it, I know it.
Which is why my agenda includes what we need to do to bring down the price of groceries.
For example, dealing with an issue like price gouging.
dave rubin
Oh yes, yes, yes.
It's that the stores suddenly are just like, yes, we want to charge more for eggs and milk and meat and all of the rest of it.
It has nothing to do with what you people did, say the Inflation Reduction Act, where you printed a shitload of money, thus causing inflation to go up so the money is worth less.
So the guy at the store is like, you know, I have to charge a few dollars more now for the eggs because I'm getting the eggs from the farmer.
He's not selling them as cheaply because, oh, he had to buy the feed for the chickens started costing more because you guys wrecked the economy.
But really what this is about, it's price gouging.
Yes, it's the people at Publix and at Whole Foods who have really decided to destroy your life.
Meanwhile, for some strange reason, every time a Republican president comes into office and they lower taxes, again, just allow you to have more of your money and you can either save it or spend it or do whatever the high hell you wanna do with it, Somehow the economy starts chugging along, right?
We had the best economy America's had in about 50 years right before COVID under Trump, okay?
And then COVID obviously changed the story.
Is what it is.
Okay, but not only are they going to lie about economics, obviously, and they're going to lie about Donald Trump, and they're going to lie about Kamala Harris and everything else, they're also going to try to make you fearful not only that COVID will come back and everything else, but guns.
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Okay, so let's just take a little breath for a second from sort of the sarcasm and silliness and joking.
There was another school shooting yesterday at Appalachee High School in Winder, Georgia.
And I wanna connect that largely to everything we're talking about,
but here's just a quick recap on that.
unidentified
have a suspect in custody.
Who that suspect is, we don't know.
Why that suspect did what they did at the school today, we don't know.
We know the first shots came in just, excuse me, the first reports of shots came in just about two hours ago now, and you still have what looks to be hundreds of kids out there on the school grounds, able to go home at this hour.
This is a school of about 1,900 students, and immediately as this incident happened, and just after we saw those students being sent to the football field, some were gathered in prayer circles, waiting to find out more information, as were we.
And now those students at the high school have been released.
They are okay to leave and go home to their parents, but all the other schools in this district are still on soft lockdown.
dave rubin
You know, it's weird.
We see so many of these that that video right there, it feels like, oh, we could have plucked that out of the archives and it's just another one of these things.
So you might say, well, Dave, why are you showing us this?
Because, you know, this type of thing happens every week or every other week and some of them are worse than others and everything else.
And we'll find out more about the motives and everything else.
But the real reason I'm showing you that is because what do you think That means for the political race that we're in right now.
Well, there are a couple issues that get to the heart of many, many, many people and often for good reasons.
And those two issues, I would say, really are abortion and guns.
Now we know what the Democrats are going to do with abortion.
They are going to lie repeatedly about Donald Trump's record on abortion.
They're going to claim he wants the national abortion ban, which he doesn't and everything else.
But the other thing that they're going to do is every time that there is a tragedy, they're going to blame it on the guns and they are going to try to come after your guns and of course owning a gun and being able to protect yourself and your family and your property that is a God-given right.
It was not given to you by the government.
The Bill of Rights, the second amendment in the Bill of Rights, it protects your God-given right to be able to protect your family which is why I have multiple guns in this house and I hope that you watching this have some guns and some ability to protect your family as well.
But of course that shooting happens in Atlanta.
kamala harris
Here's Kamala Harris So, before I begin, I do want to say a few words about this tragic shooting that took place this morning in Winder, Georgia.
We're still gathering information about what happened, but we know that there were multiple fatalities and injuries.
You know, our hearts are with all the students, the teachers, and their families, of course.
And we are grateful to the first responders and the law enforcement that were on the scene.
But this is just a senseless tragedy, on top of so many senseless tragedies.
And it's just outrageous.
That every day in our country, in the United States of America, that parents have to send their children to school worried about whether or not their child will come home alive.
It's senseless.
We've got to stop it.
And we have to end this epidemic of gun violence in our country once and for all.
You know, it doesn't have to be this way.
It doesn't have to be this way.
dave rubin
You're right.
It doesn't have to be this way, but not for the reasons that you think.
They never talk about mental health, right?
They never talk about prescription drugs.
They never talk about the cultural problems, or the breakdown of the family, or lack of religion, or any of those things.
They always want to tell you that it's the weapon.
And the truth is that if I had an AR-15 sitting on this desk right now, I would not randomly just shoot all of the people in this studio.
Congratulations, guys.
Because that would mean I have a mental health problem.
It would not be the gun's fault if I did that.
So the kids that often shoot up these schools, or the young people that shoot this or that, or someone that might say, attempt to assassinate a former president of the United States, it's a mental health problem It's the SSRIs, it's social media.
There is a million other reasons.
You remember that shooting in Uvalde, which was one of the worst.
Uvalde, Texas, it was about a year and a half ago when someone went into an elementary school and I think shot 18 kids and two teachers.
And Joy Reid dare go on her show the next day with no evidence of anything and say, that kid did not have a mental health problem.
And it's like, by definition, if you kill 18 children, you have a mental health problem.
I should also note, we checked this before the show, that there are 400, 400 million firearms now circulating in America
owned by us, the citizens.
They wanna take the guns away.
Now imagine they took away, I don't know, 200 million guns.
200 million guns, literally impossible.
There would still be 200 million firearms in the United States,
and 99.9% of the people who own those guns legally do nothing illegal with the guns.
There are about 30,000 gun deaths per year and two-thirds of those are suicides, okay?
90% of them are homicides by handguns.
They never want to talk about the inner city violence and the black-on-black crime and all of those things.
So everything they will do will be to make you less safe.
They will try to come for the legal law abiding people who own guns so that they can protect themselves.
They will try to make you be the bad guy.
That is what they will do.
And not only will they try to do that, but here's a video of Kamala in 2019.
They're also gonna try to get proper law enforcement that protects people out of schools
and out of cities where they need it.
And we now know the results of that.
kamala harris
And then also, again, what we need to do about taking, demilitarizing our schools
and taking police officers out of schools.
unidentified
Thank you.
kamala harris
We need to deal with the reality and speak the truth about the inequities around school discipline.
dave rubin
Inequities around school discipline.
It's all just...
Drivelous words.
No one wants police officers in school.
I was blessed.
I now look at my childhood with the rosiest glasses of all time.
I grew up in the 80s.
I went to public schools my entire life.
I went into an elementary school where I have no recollection of anyone ever talking about a shooting
or having to worry about any of that.
And there was no police officer.
I don't even think there was a security guard at the door or even in my junior high or high school.
But I guess that was a long time ago and things have changed
and it's not just because of the amount of guns which is what they want you to think.
It is because of those SSRIs.
It is because of our culture and whatever's going on on social media
and confusion about gender and thinking that the world is gonna end in 10 years and all of those things
that they have bludgeoned young people with.
That is really what's going on here but they don't wanna talk about that.
So what can we do to fix all of this?
As always, what you can do is call out the machine.
And now I wanna give credit to Vivek Ramaswamy who went on CNN and did what he now has become
an absolute master at, just knocking the lies down one at a time.
Here he is gone after Kamala.
vivek ramaswamy
You brought up some claims about Kamala Harris.
I want to finish that discussion.
She said she didn't favor a ban on fracking now.
The reality is, she was one of the strongest proponents of that ban, so much so that when she was in California, she sued the Obama administration over granting fracking permits.
She didn't just favor the abolition of private health insurance.
She was a co-sponsor of the bill with Bernie Sanders as a U.S.
Senator for Medicare for All for Americans.
The reality is, when you think about the Green New Deal, she was the chief proponent, not just as a co-sponsor of the legislation, but going further and saying she would end the filibuster in the Senate to ram that through.
So the reality is, she can say what she wants to say now.
Those are actions she has taken.
Is someone allowed to evolve?
Of course they are.
But she deserves to explain exactly why she's changed those positions.
Exactly what her position is.
If it's not a ban on fracking, what exactly is it?
What exactly is her health care plan if she no longer favors abolishing private health insurance?
Which just four short years ago when she ran for president, she did.
And that's the kind of scrutiny that's been missing.
I think Donald Trump has received plenty of scrutiny, and I give credit to him for sitting for hostile interviews that Kamala Harris has not.
dave rubin
That's just a spectacular bang-up job by Ramaswamy there.
Let me just address one of those things because, okay, so she flip-flopped on fracking, fine.
She flip-flopped on the filibuster, fine.
Okay, the banning of private insurance, just think about that for a moment.
We played you the clip before I went off the grid at the debate that she was in.
She was only in one or two debates before she dropped out when the anchor, the moderator at the debate
had them all raise their hand.
How many of you want healthcare for all?
And they basically all raised their hands, right?
And then it was how many of you would ban private insurance?
And I think it was just her and Bernie, maybe Elizabeth Warren as well.
But think about how crazy that is.
Let's say you believe that the government should have health care for everybody.
Let's say you believe that that's a functional thing that can work.
OK, fine.
You can make an argument for that, perhaps if you believe the system is a little bit better than I think it is.
But let's say you make an argument that that's fine.
But imagine then saying, OK, not only are we going to have that, but you will not be able to buy private insurance.
No matter how rich you are and how much money you have, you can't have private insurance.
You cannot do with your money what you wish.
You cannot get any special medicine with your money.
It's so psychotic, it is so authoritarian, and that is what she is for because she is a Marxist.
Now I'm gonna do something which is very, very rare on this show.
It's one thing when I show you back-to-back clips of Joe Scarborough just lying.
Here I'm now gonna show you two back-to-back clips of CNN where they made sense.
I just showed you Vivek, obviously, making a lot of sense on CNN, and here's an analyst on CNN.
I think he used to work in the George W. Bush administration.
His name's Scott Jennings.
Here he is calling out the media nonsense as it pertains to Kamala and Biden's tax agenda.
scott jennings
The ticket to victory for the middle and for some of these male voters that they're competing for is really to talk about the economy.
unidentified
I had to chuckle a little bit today listening to her talk about her tax policy.
I mean, she's like, see, Joe Biden's tax policy is only going to kill you as much as, you know, Jason Voorhees.
But I'm more like Mike Myers.
See, isn't that better?
No, it's not better.
They're both scary as hell.
And either way, you're going to be dead.
And so I think she's going to have to come up with something a little better than I'm going to raise your taxes a little less than Joe Biden is if she wants to do economic competition.
dave rubin
Yeah, she wants to raise your taxes.
And it doesn't matter, by the way, if they flat out say, oh, we're only going to raise their taxes.
We're only going to raise the taxes on the 1%.
Well, you raise the taxes on the 1%, and 1% basically means you make a couple hundred thousand dollars a year, and then they have a little bit less money.
And then they spend a little bit less money, and then stores start struggling a little bit more.
Oh, and by the way, they're gonna keep printing money, so money will be worth less.
Like, you get it, all right?
I know if you watch this show, you get it.
I always say, it's like, thank God I have a smart audience so I don't have to constantly repeat myself.
I do have to do it a little bit.
So yes, one way or another, every single policy that they have will be to give more governmental control over your health, or over your wallet, or over the defense of the country, or everything else, rather than you being able to defend yourself and all of the There is a debate in a couple of days.
Donald Trump versus Kamala Harris.
It's gonna be on ABC.
And of course Kamala has already decided she wants to change the rules.
She wants notes.
She wants a desk.
Here's Trump on that.
unidentified
He kept looking down.
Nobody wants to cover it.
I know all about notes.
donald j trump
I mean, you know, it's all right if people know that.
unidentified
But she wasn't supposed to have notes.
So she's asked a question.
She looks down.
She had notes.
That means she knew that she knew what was happening.
sean hannity
Did her campaign, when they said that they wanted to change the rules that they had agreed to, Did they ask for notes?
unidentified
Did they ask for the- They wanted notes.
dave rubin
They wanted to be seated, and they wanted your mic high.
unidentified
They wanted a desk.
They didn't want to do- I said, you gotta do a stand up.
After they already agreed to the other.
Yeah, but they wanted a desk from the beginning.
You know who else wanted a desk?
Sleepy Joe.
He wanted a desk.
Alright, we gotta take a break.
dave rubin
Okay, look, I- For some reason, Ted, I don't feel like getting into all the minutiae and silliness of the back and forth of who said what first.
We're going to have a desk, we're not going to have a desk, and everything else.
There's no reason you can't stand at a debate.
Kamala, you are way younger than Joe.
There was a reason we all thought Joe couldn't stand there and couldn't get through that first debate.
He barely made it through and everything else.
As far as notes and everything else, I would rather have two candidates that have no podium, no notes, no desk, no nothing.
How about two human beings that say, this is my vision for the world and for the next hour and a half, I'm going to explain it and I'm going to take all the questions.
I don't even think you need a moderator.
How about they have to look at each other?
for an hour and a half look at each other in the eye and say this is what I believe this is my record and how about if they have the mental wherewithal to know what their actual beliefs are and know how to defend perhaps that they did change on something and why did they change on it over the years but the more you want rules around those things you only want those rules because you want to control what the outcome is All right, so how do we bring this thing full circle today?
Look, as we continue to call out the machine, we are going to have to find more and more people that are waking up because, sorry Joe Scarborough, you are completely wrong.
There are more people waking up that are suddenly like, I can get on the Trump train, and there are less and less people who are suddenly like, you know, I do like Kamala.
Like, it's just not happening.
RFK, Tulsi, Elon, Joe Rogan, the list continues.
Those black ladies in Chicago, et cetera.
So let's jump to RFK Jr., who is, in essence, not running for president anymore.
It sounds like he'll be on some of the ballots still, but he is backing Donald Trump.
Not because he thinks Donald Trump is God's gift to the earth.
Not because he agrees with everything with Donald Trump.
He certainly doesn't agree with him on abortion.
He doesn't agree with him on some environmental stuff.
He doesn't agree with him on a whole bunch of things.
But he thinks he loves America, and that might be all we need at the moment.
robert f kennedy-jr
I don't think that Vice President Harris is a worthy president of this country.
I think we need to have a president who can give an interview, who can articulate a vision, who can put together an English sentence, who can articulate and defend her policies and her record, and who can engage in a debate, and regular debates, unscripted appearances.
President, or Vice President Harris's speech at the convention made it very clear that she will continue the warfare state.
That she is, that she's bragging about how she sees warfare as a tool, as a frontline tool of American foreign policy.
dave rubin
So interesting because the question in essence is why are you supporting Trump?
And it's really like that woman has no vision for this country or certainly a vision that I disagree with.
And he's an old school liberal.
He's a disaffected Dem.
He's a guy that I said would not be a Democrat by the time he was done with the Democrat machine.
I did not know that he would be with Trump at this point.
But that shows you the point.
I want to jump back to Rogan and Brett on yesterday's Rogan podcast because yesterday on this show, we covered that ridiculously insane article in the New York Times about how the Constitution has become the danger.
And you have to understand, when they usher in all these bad policies and everything else, what they also have to do is they have to take a hatchet and they have to hatch it away at our founding.
They have to make you think not only was the founding bad and that we were founded by bad people who were racist and backwards and everything else, but that the documents that freed all of us That all of our ancestors literally, in many cases, got to the ground and kissed the ground when they got to this country where they thought the streets were paved with gold, and in many cases then lived lives that you'd have no difference knowing whether they were paved with gold or not because they made something of themselves.
They want you to think that that is bad.
So Rogan and Brett Weinstein also went off on that insane New York Times article.
bret weinstein
I'm not quite sure what to expect.
joe rogan
Look at this.
bret weinstein
Oh yeah, of course.
joe rogan
The Constitution is sacred.
Is it also dangerous?
One of the biggest threats to America's politics might be the country's founding document.
What the f*** are you talking about?
One of the biggest threats to America's politics might be one of the greatest documents that any country was ever founded on, if not the greatest ever.
That could be a threat to America's politics.
What politics are we talking about?
How could you possibly gaslight me enough to go along with you on this?
bret weinstein
Yeah, it's incredible.
I mean, it's, on the one hand, completely predictable, right?
Because there's obviously an authoritarian force there that just grinds its teeth at night over the Constitution and the fact that it prevents it from doing things that it just wants to do last week, you know?
And so of course, they're like scratching their heads, like, can we come up with an argument for why it might be time to get rid of that thing?
And of course, if you're a normal thinking person, this is complete insanity.
But if you're a New York Times reader, I'm sure that fits with the kind of ethos that's been cultivated.
dave rubin
Yeah, there is an authoritarian bent over there because people that want to control you want to break down institutions that help protect your freedoms.
It is as simple as that.
So we were trying to figure out how to end the show today, and obviously we went very heavy on racehorse politics today.
That's what the show was, racehorse politics today.
But as I always say, this stuff will not be solved.
by politics.
The awakening that someone like Brett or someone like RFK are going through, it's not purely that they're waking up politically.
There's something else.
They're looking at things a little bit differently.
And they're going, oh, I can maybe ally with someone differently or make amends with someone or think about the world differently.
And that's not really political.
It can become political, but it's not political at first.
We're trying to figure out a way to end the show that would frame that properly.
And then I saw this tweet from Jordan Peterson.
I think this is from yesterday or the day before.
And it's perfect.
It's actually perfect.
You have some vital role to play in the unfolding destiny of the world.
You are, therefore, morally obligated to take care of yourself.
You should take care of, help, and be good to yourself the same way you would take care of, help, and be good to someone you loved and valued.
You may, therefore, have to conduct yourself habitually in a manner that allows you some respect for your own being.
And that's right.
That is right.
And that is not political.
But if you do that first, maybe the political thing will sort itself out.
Ladles and Jelly Spoons, that is our show for today.
We've got a Q&A coming up for tomorrow's show.
And if you want to get some questions in, you can join us at RubinReport.Locals.com.
And coincidentally, that's exactly where we have a post-game show in 30 seconds.
I leave you with the woman that wants to be president and the guy that they didn't want to be president.
Goodbye.
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