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Biggest Life Regrets & Unexpected Election Predictions | Bill Maher
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bill maher
Yeah, of course, you know, painful moments like that.
Yes.
We don't have to go through all of my horrible things.
dave rubin
I want to make you cry.
bill maher
Don't make me cry.
But yes, I mean, there are lots of...
And also in the personal life, and just in things...
Just things where I would go, oh, gosh, I wish I'd thought of that ten years earlier.
unidentified
♪♪ Okay.
dave rubin
You're on Rubin Report in Club Random.
bill maher
Look at that.
dave rubin
How does that feel for your butt?
Because Armand Hammer was just sitting in there.
bill maher
Not Armand Hammer.
He's been dead for many years.
Army Hammer.
dave rubin
Yes, Army Hammer was sitting in there.
bill maher
Jesus Christ.
dave rubin
And now you finally get someone good to look at, huh?
Pretty sweet for you.
It's all working out.
bill maher
Did you try to fuck him, Dave?
dave rubin
I didn't.
I didn't.
unidentified
Did you?
bill maher
I doubt that.
dave rubin
I saw some.
You could feel it.
It was palpable.
It's good to see you, man.
How are you?
bill maher
Great to have your gay ass here.
dave rubin
Oh God, this is how we started last time.
bill maher
This is how it always starts, Dave.
This is how it always starts.
dave rubin
I'm going to drink some tequila.
You're already, what, you're a tequila ahead of me?
bill maher
I'm already half in the bag.
dave rubin
You're half in the bag.
Which half?
bill maher
Well, I mean, I just did, however long we were here, Talking, and you know me, I enjoy the occasional jazz cigarette.
dave rubin
I love how also when you're talking to, like, a recovering alcoholic, and a recovering drug addict, and everything else, it doesn't phase you in any way.
You smoke the joint in front of them to pour the alcohol.
bill maher
Sometimes I actually verbally try to get them to restart.
dave rubin
He literally thought you might be roofing him at one point.
I mean, you do have your strange tinctures.
bill maher
That's a great, that would be a great label for it.
Strange tincture.
dave rubin
That would be good.
bill maher
Or a band.
Yeah, it would be good.
Strange tinctures.
First off, cheers, man.
It's good to see you.
dave rubin
Is that just diet Coke or something?
bill maher
What do you got there?
No, that's strange tincture.
dave rubin
That's strange.
unidentified
Oh, right.
dave rubin
Well, that's it.
That is the stuff.
bill maher
That's a cherry cola flavor.
dave rubin
So I was thinking, how do we start this thing after watching?
I watched.
bill maher
I'm the guest.
dave rubin
I watched the entire thing.
bill maher
That's not my problem.
dave rubin
It isn't your problem.
You just get to sit there and do nothing.
bill maher
Yeah, that's right.
dave rubin
I was thinking that I have a feeling you don't really have any regrets in life.
bill maher
Well, that's ridiculous.
I have thousands of... No, no, no.
dave rubin
I mean, big regrets.
Not like little things in the past, but that you've truly, at 68, my sense really is like you actually are living the exact life that you would have wanted to live if you were that 13-year-old kid.
bill maher
It all came out in the wash, yes.
I mean, There are certainly so many, many, many mistakes along the way, but that's life.
If we all have the same thought, if I can only live my life over again and not do this and this and this and this and this.
But in general, I would say life is a game where if you win, you're fortunate.
And even if you win, you don't win 11 to 2.
You win 7 to 5.
That's it.
I think I won 7-5.
It's not over yet, we'll see.
But why do you think it's only 7-5?
dave rubin
Even when you were talking about not having a wife and kids before, I don't think you regret it.
bill maher
Not at all.
That's one of the big victories.
No, seriously.
That is not facetious.
First of all, it's very difficult to stay single as a successful man.
It is.
Or even an unsuccessful one.
dave rubin
That's probably more difficult.
bill maher
It's really true.
It's just, you know, bitches want me married.
Come on, that's a thing.
So, you know, just keeping your toe out of the trap is a job in itself.
And so I feel good about that.
And I never wanted kids.
And I kind of stuck with that.
And, you know, yeah.
dave rubin
Do you think you ever could have got to Where you're at sort of in your head and in your life, doing anything else.
Is there any other thing that you could have passed?
Like, I know you love basketball.
Like, I always think, I guess I would have loved to have been a basketball player.
bill maher
I would have loved to, but you know.
dave rubin
But here we are.
bill maher
Tough at 5'8".
dave rubin
But you still can shoot.
bill maher
I still could shoot.
I love to play, play all the time.
It's a great game and I'm as good as you can be at it, considering my age, my height and my race.
dave rubin
Can we take three shots together after?
unidentified
What?
bill maher
Three shots.
Can we take three shots?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dave rubin
Not of tequila.
We can do that too.
bill maher
Yeah, we can go up to the court.
All right.
Because I know you play.
You have a court.
dave rubin
Yeah, I still, I got a court.
bill maher
I got a court.
Yeah, I mean, I, you know, regrets, I've had a few, but then again, too few to mention.
dave rubin
Keep going, keep going.
Let's see how far you can get.
bill maher
I did what I had to do.
I saw it through without exemption.
I mean, that's, you know, I'm glad I stuck with that in my personal life.
I basically went toward the light eventually in my professional life, wound up doing the thing I always was meant to do and should do, which is doing a comedy political show, and I've had one for 31 years on the air.
That's, you know, again, that's the seven runs I scored.
Trust me, I got shelled in the third inning.
You know, I mean, there was some pitching changes and they lit me up there in the eighth.
dave rubin
Was 9-11 the biggest shot?
Oh, let's not go there.
bill maher
Would you consider that a career one?
Yeah, things like that.
Of course, you know, painful moments like that, yes.
We don't have to go through all of my horrible things.
dave rubin
I want to make you cry.
bill maher
Don't make me cry.
But yes, I mean, there are lots of, and also in the personal life, and just in things, just things where I would go, oh gosh, I wish I'd thought of that ten years earlier.
I could have been where I am today, but I didn't.
You can't beat yourself up about shit like that.
dave rubin
But that's what I mean.
I don't think you have regrets.
It's little mistakes or unseen things.
bill maher
But they're not little.
Things could have been so different.
dave rubin
Like what?
bill maher
Oh, like just not being stupid about women.
For the first 40 years or whatever.
Just knowing women better and not doing dumb things.
I've said this before on this show, but just as an example, I came across a picture of myself recently.
I was 28.
You know, I realized at an epiphany that, like, I used to think when I was in my 20s and 30s if I didn't appeal to a woman, oh, I'm not good looking enough, because I've had this awesome personality.
And I realized looking at the picture, it was the exact opposite.
I was plenty good-looking.
I was just, you know, too anxious or too insecure.
It was the exact opposite of what I thought.
Okay, well, there's an example of something, if I knew then, I could have, like, been so much happier and caused myself so much less consternation and pain.
So life's full of that, and that's the five runs they scored on.
dave rubin
You think it was happier or just got laid more?
bill maher
Well, you probably got laid more, too, so... Well, the one would have led to the other.
dave rubin
Fair enough, fair enough.
Uh, you want to do politics at all, or?
bill maher
Absolutely.
dave rubin
Well, let's do, actually, when I saw you when I came, before I did Real Time, and I was there that night when you had DeSantis on, and I was kind of giving him some lines or whatever we were doing.
Um, you did a, uh, the end of the show was about Biden being too old and it was time to subside.
And that's about, it wasn't quite a year ago.
It was maybe 10 months ago or so, but you were, you were telling people.
bill maher
Ruth Bader Biden.
Yeah.
Um, and here we are.
He is exactly Ruth.
I mean, tomorrow is the press conference.
Um, so we're doing this pre-press conference.
I don't know what this press conference is going to be like, but may I make a prediction?
He's not suddenly going to be Cicero.
That's my prediction.
This strategy they have of, okay, the debate was awful, so we'll put him on Stephanopoulos.
Okay, that didn't work too good.
That made it worse.
He was worse.
He wasn't worse, but he wasn't good.
When you're in this big of a hole, how great would he have to be at this press conference tomorrow?
He'd have to be Jack Kennedy in 1962, like witty and good looking and like, I'm sure we can do better.
Ah, big laugh.
You know, all that kind of charm.
dave rubin
You'd have to tap your hands out there.
bill maher
Just charming the fuck off the pants of the press.
And he's not going to do that.
dave rubin
Right.
There's literally no chance.
bill maher
There's a ceiling here, and it's not going to be his goodest performance.
dave rubin
Was your hope when you did that monologue?
bill maher
That was a joke.
He said, goodest.
dave rubin
No, I got it.
unidentified
I got it.
dave rubin
I'll pick my laughs, too.
You know, I've been around the block.
unidentified
I think you just missed it.
dave rubin
When you did that monologue, though, was the hope that the higher-ups were going to listen and be like, let's do this?
bill maher
Well, that's always my hope, and it never happens.
Nobody ever listens to me, and I'm always right.
That's my cross to bear, Dave.
dave rubin
Oh, now we're getting the regrets.
That must be a regret.
bill maher
That's right.
dave rubin
They're never listening.
But this is a disaster, right?
bill maher
It is a disaster for the Democrats.
dave rubin
Even when it comes to November, if you and I are voting different ways and who the hell the candidates are, this is a disaster.
bill maher
Well, we are definitely voting different ways.
But it does not have to be a disaster.
There is still time.
Absolutely, there is still time, not only to make it not a disaster, but to make it a huge positive.
This is my editorial this Friday.
It's also what I've been saying.
I said it in the New York Times op-ed a couple of weeks ago, that this is a great opportunity.
America likes new.
We like new pussy, Dave.
New.
New, new, new, new.
dave rubin
You didn't make a gay joke there.
I could feel it coming.
It was just nothing.
bill maher
It's the evening's yarn.
All right, all right.
dave rubin
Here, am I supposed to plaster you with alcohol and weed now?
bill maher
I'm having some.
It's in here.
Yeah, but weed or... I pour it in with the other liquid.
dave rubin
Is this the Bill Maher joint?
bill maher
Yeah, you want some?
Okay.
This is grown right here.
This is Cherokee farm.
dave rubin
Oh, yeah?
Do I need some trick to... Yeah?
You wanna... Oh, right.
You want your own.
bill maher
I mean, no.
dave rubin
You want your own.
bill maher
Yeah, well, why...
Yeah, I don't know.
dave rubin
I'm not as professional anymore in this game.
bill maher
Here you go.
You're rich.
Have your own joint.
But no, America would love a new fresh face.
This country is a sitcom that's been on for eight seasons.
It's fucking tired.
And we need new characters.
And I'm tired of... They're tired of looking at Uncle Joe and Crazy Fat Trump.
And let's get some new characters on this show.
And that's what I'm going to say Friday.
It almost doesn't matter who it is.
Just somebody new.
The less they know about them, the better.
Um, that's great.
Andy Beshear, bring it on.
Whoever the fuck you are, Andy Beshear, I'm so in your camp.
But is there any way... Yeah, wait, who's Andy Beshear?
Exactly!
dave rubin
Oh.
bill maher
You don't even know?
dave rubin
Oh, I... No.
bill maher
You let the wrong end, you fucking nerd.
dave rubin
Is something not right here?
bill maher
Something seems... Oh my God.
Wow.
What a loser.
dave rubin
That's called comedy, my friend.
bill maher
That's called loser.
unidentified
That's called being a loser.
bill maher
It's the kind where it's obvious that this is the end and this is the part you like.
Oh my god.
dave rubin
That's the end?
It seemed a little tough to inhale.
I don't know.
You smoke a lot of weed.
I thought you wrapped this shit real tight.
I just smoked the wrong end of the weed with the... It's okay.
Thank God we're not filming this or I'd be embarrassed.
bill maher
Well, we are.
I don't know if you're not, but I know my cameras work.
unidentified
I know these motherfuckers are always on.
dave rubin
Did you think something was odd?
There wasn't a lot of smoke coming out?
bill maher
Here, let me show you how a professional does it.
unidentified
Mmm.
Even still.
bill maher
Smooth, refreshing flavor.
dave rubin
That's good, that's good.
bill maher
Step up to Cherokee Farms.
All right, I think.
So, I think that, look, I'm predicting right now and Friday night, there is no chance Biden is the nominee.
The pressure will just keep increasing.
He will not be the person.
It might be over by Friday.
dave rubin
I agree.
bill maher
Because, you know, again, these further diggings of holes is not helping.
So this is not going to be better than Stephanopoulos.
A press conference?
Oh my God.
And again, to make up for the last two, it's just not in the cards.
It's just not going to happen.
dave rubin
This is much better with smoking it this way.
bill maher
Yeah.
So I've got plenty in there, by the way.
unidentified
I'll smoke it every which way and figure it out.
dave rubin
How much of this do you think is just, there's no business like show business?
How much of it is just the show at this point?
What do you mean?
Every day we just wake up and there's just like another episode of the show of democracy.
bill maher
Yeah, that's why I'm saying we need new characters.
dave rubin
Democracy is real.
bill maher
It's just that the people in the country don't prize it, including people like you.
dave rubin
Could you vote for someone that has dementia?
bill maher
Absolutely.
Because let's be honest, let's be clear about Biden.
Should he run for president?
No.
As we were saying, I was saying a long time ago he shouldn't.
Is he the best choice?
No.
Is he completely out of his mind?
No.
He's not lost his marbles.
I wouldn't ask him something at 1130 at night.
No.
But if you had to, is he completely crazy?
No.
If some shit happened like... Not so sure about that.
unidentified
Oh, please.
bill maher
You know, you talk yourself into the extremes.
dave rubin
I don't know that that's extreme.
I don't have any sense that he has the wherewithal if they woke him up at 7.30, 11.30 or 3.30 that he would know where he is or what he's doing.
bill maher
Then you're just a hater.
He's terrible in public.
He's terrible when you put him under pressure with his stuttering and with his age, yes, to try to do a debate.
It'd be like asking him to run a marathon at 81.
No, you can't do that.
But can he sit in a chair and still think clearly and talk?
Yes.
To think not is just, again, being pointlessly, purposely, stupidly extreme about it, not being objective.
You just hate that side, so you can't come to the actual troop Twice where this is, and that's where this is.
dave rubin
I like some evidence of it.
When's the last time you saw that?
bill maher
If Russia attacked between 9 and 3.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
dave rubin
Thank you.
bill maher
No, but if Russia attacked at any hour, if they had to wake him up, yes, trust me, he has his marbles.
He could make the right decision.
He's not crazy.
He just shouldn't be president.
It's a day-to-day job.
But do I fear that in a crisis, a crazy, out-of-his-mind person is there?
unidentified
No.
bill maher
And again, if you really believe that, you're just talking yourself into your right-wing point of view.
dave rubin
It's so interesting, because I see that so as the polar opposite.
I don't think there's any evidence of that.
bill maher
I don't think there's any evidence that he's... Well, there's no evidence at all, because you never see him behind closed doors.
dave rubin
No, but do you?
bill maher
No.
But I see him in public, and in public he's not a crazy person.
He's just an awful speaker.
He's terrible under pressure at 8 o'clock at night, or all those factors.
dave rubin
But no, he's just The bar has been set low, I guess is what you're saying.
The bar is set low across the board, but these shouldn't be the choices.
bill maher
Importantly, he's not insane, out of his mind, unable to think, unable to make a decision, unable to communicate his wishes to his aides.
He just shouldn't be president right now, and he can't win the election, and he's not going to keep getting younger.
But until his time in office expires, certainly this term, where he is now, he doesn't scare me as there's this crazy, you know, mental incapacitate in office.
And you don't really believe that either.
dave rubin
No, I do.
bill maher
I know.
dave rubin
I do.
But I don't think that's bubble or anything else.
bill maher
But you were for DeSantis.
Look how that turned out.
dave rubin
Well, you get predictions wrong, but right now... Listen, if DeSantis... I don't want to be DeSantis.
Let's not do that.
bill maher
I wouldn't either if I were you.
dave rubin
You ever get calls from, uh, like the administration or any of the things when you throw things out like that about?
bill maher
No administration to me?
dave rubin
No, cause, cause real time to me.
bill maher
They don't see me as an ally.
dave rubin
No, no, no, no, no.
I didn't mean calls positively.
I meant calls like, Oh, come on, man.
Why'd you fucking do that?
bill maher
No.
unidentified
Oh God.
dave rubin
Never?
bill maher
No, no.
I don't.
Not this administration.
dave rubin
Because to me, real time seems to me like the airlock between what happens online and what enters the mainstream, sort of.
It really does.
bill maher
I love the way you put that.
The airlock.
dave rubin
Yeah, it is.
It's like what is, like there's a lot of stuff that's like kind of bubbling online for a while.
bill maher
Right.
dave rubin
And then when it hits real time, then it's like, oh, now it can be discussed in sort of a wider way.
I think that's been the staying power beyond your funny and blah, blah, blah.
But like, I think that's sort of the staying power of it.
It is the sort of like, the go-between between the two worlds right now because
they're very disconnected the sort of online world and the and the mainstream world
bill maher
Well, I hope on a good day. I'm saying the things first that then makes it go online and you are doing that too
That's what I'd rather do.
dave rubin
Literally, it's a joke on my show.
We say it's Mondays with Bill because on Mondays I'm covering what you covered.
Yeah, I'm good.
I'm glad about that.
The airlock, I guess, goes both ways in that sense.
bill maher
Boy, we picked the terrible months to come off the air.
We're doing a show Friday and then we're doing another show the week Friday after that when the Republican convention is on.
They're weak.
And we thought, well, we want to be on for both conventions.
So then we're off for our month between that and the Democratic convention in August.
And I feel like that's going to be a very consequential month with Biden, you know.
dave rubin
Can I one up you on that?
bill maher
Yeah, go ahead.
dave rubin
I go off the grid every August.
No phone, no TV, no news.
bill maher
Is that right?
dave rubin
This will be my eighth year doing it.
Literally no newspaper, no television.
Nothing.
And then when I come back in September after Labor Day, I have somebody bring me back.
So Shapiro's done it and Megyn Kelly and a couple other people.
bill maher
And what do you do during this retreat?
dave rubin
Disappear.
I've gone to Bora Bora a couple of times.
bill maher
Bora Bora?
dave rubin
Yeah, we've gone to like, you know, Mexican rainforest.
bill maher
Checking a honeymoon type thing?
dave rubin
Just dip out.
It's just literally just dip out.
Sometimes I'm just home for two weeks and just doing nothing.
Or I'm doing projects around the house.
unidentified
What about the baby?
dave rubin
Well, most of the years we didn't have kids.
Now there's children.
They're not going to come with us for the portion that we go away.
We don't go away for the full 30 days.
bill maher
You just leave them on the road?
dave rubin
No, you just put them in a house.
There's a dog there.
There's a bowl.
Now I really have to teach you about parenting.
No, no.
You leave water, obviously, and food.
I'm not some sick freak.
unidentified
No, of course not.
dave rubin
But that's one of the things that has kept me sane.
But you don't take the kids on the... For that portion of it.
bill maher
I agree.
Bora Bora would be wasted on children.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dave rubin
Have you been to Bora Bora?
No, but... You never took the Bill Maher plane to Bora Bora?
bill maher
The Bill Maher plane.
dave rubin
You have the Bill Maher plane.
bill maher
Yeah.
dave rubin
Which you also... See, when I say you don't have regrets, that's what I mean, because you have the Bill Maher plane, you're a climate change guy, but you're not guilty about it.
unidentified
No.
dave rubin
It's not a regret.
bill maher
Well, um, no, that's true.
Uh, I mean, that's, that wouldn't be a couple on that one.
dave rubin
It was good.
bill maher
You were like, look, I believe in this stuff, but I said what I, well, first of all, me not taking a private plane is going to change absolutely nothing in the world.
The point I was making was one, there's two types of people in the world.
People who can fly private and people who can't.
The people who can and also don't, do not exist.
Except for Greta Thunberg and Ed Begley.
dave rubin
I feel like she's flying private.
He isn't.
I'll accept that he isn't.
bill maher
You think Greta's flying private?
dave rubin
She's doing all sorts of weird stuff.
Now, she flies from Los Airelines or whatever.
bill maher
I hear she does eat shark soup.
dave rubin
I bet she does.
bill maher
But I don't think she flies private because you'd see that.
No, I said, I can take being called a bad environmentalist.
I cannot take being called a hypocrite.
Yeah.
And so I, you know… Did you feel you really had to get it off your chest on that?
No, it made for a very funny… Yeah, no, it's… …where I was like, you know, I was at one of those camera turns like, hi, I'm Bill.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I fly private, you know.
And yeah, you know, I mean, is it… Environmentally great, no.
But then again, I didn't have children.
Children are the most environmentally unfriendly thing you could do.
What?
It's true.
You're creating all these new carbon footprints.
You're going to use resources.
dave rubin
I was just remembering that when I told you I had kids, And it's tough to have kids when you have two dudes in a relationship.
You were the only person that I said to you on overtime, I think, you said, oh, fuck.
That was your response.
I said, Bill, I have kids.
You go, you have kids?
bill maher
Oh, fuck.
But did you, were they adopted or turkey baster?
dave rubin
Turkey baster.
bill maher
Oh, so you brought kids into the world who didn't need to be in the world.
So you're just as guilty.
dave rubin
Guilty for what?
For intimidating humanity?
bill maher
Well, being gay, and you know, despite what the kids say today, men really can't get pregnant.
dave rubin
I fully accept that, trust me.
bill maher
I know you do.
dave rubin
We tried naturally for several years.
bill maher
Right, I know.
But by creating a new life, you basically are environmentally unfriendly.
dave rubin
Oh, this is your way of getting out of the airplane.
I created a life, that's worse than a billy-flying.
bill maher
Right, that's going to use resources probably more than I did with that little plane.
And by the way, never owned a plane, never wanted to.
Always rented it.
And most of the jobs, most of the times I took it, I literally could not have gotten to the job otherwise.
dave rubin
Oh, so you don't own the plane?
Never!
Oh, there was a Bill Maher plane.
bill maher
You do not want to own a plane.
dave rubin
Yeah, no I don't.
bill maher
Then all the problems are yours.
And you know what else?
dave rubin
Crack windshield, 200 grand.
bill maher
Yeah, exactly.
Where do you park it?
Landing rights?
It's not just like a limo.
You have to plan.
People think you can just do anything on a plane.
unidentified
No.
bill maher
The pilots have restrictions of how late they can be up.
There's a lot of restrictions.
But I literally couldn't get to, you know, I'm in Minneapolis Saturday night.
I don't think I can get there just on time.
I have a show here Friday night.
dave rubin
You don't think Ilhan would give you the Ilhan Omar plane to Minnesota?
bill maher
That's her district, yeah.
dave rubin
That's a special plane she has.
You don't want to get on that plane.
Don't go on that plane, Bill, please.
You're too important to us.
bill maher
Is that a terrorist joke?
It was a terrorist joke.
Okay.
dave rubin
See, now I had to explain a joke to you, but you mostly got it.
bill maher
I got it, but, like, I hate to be put in the position of defending Eli and Omar.
dave rubin
Oh, Harry, don't.
Don't debase yourself and defend her.
bill maher
I'm not defending her, but you're not a terrorist.
dave rubin
Not yet.
She's seeding the ground for terrorism.
bill maher
I believe she did marry her brother, though.
dave rubin
She married her brother.
She's, you know, given re-election campaign speeches with all Somali flags, no American flags.
A lot of women dressed up in the beekeeper costume, which you talk about, and at some point that doesn't work for the longevity of America.
bill maher
I totally agree with you on that.
I do have to draw the line on terrorism.
That's a low blow.
But as far as, what did you say?
What was the thing she did?
Oh, the thing with the Somali flags or the Palestinian flag.
And not the American flag?
Yes, that does bother me.
unidentified
Yeah.
bill maher
I mean, who are you representing?
What country?
And I don't say that, like, as somebody bashing someone from either side.
That's just as an American.
Like, you gotta be this country first.
You can be on either Republican or Democratic side.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bill maher
But, you know, you gotta be representing this country.
dave rubin
Well, it's interesting, because it's funny, because when I talk about you on the show, and now knowing you to the extent that I know you, it's like, we agree on, if we went through just like issue by issue, I think we probably agree on like 90% of the issues.
bill maher
I don't think so.
dave rubin
But we're just sort of choosing a different candidate to get that stuff done.
bill maher
You think 90?
dave rubin
Yeah.
Yeah, because what would be like a major thing that you would think we would disagree on?
I think we largely agree on abortion.
Maybe on the weeks, we're not exactly the same.
I'd say about 12 to 15, but I think you're probably... Oh, so on abortion?
Yeah.
Like I'm just trying to pick something, like what would we really disagree on?
bill maher
Put aside candidates.
I believe abortion should be legal up until the third trimester of high school.
dave rubin
Okay, so you live here in California, and that's wonderful.
bill maher
No.
dave rubin
No, but I don't think there would be a massive if I was trying to find it.
And that's what I've been trying to explain to people, that the difference between, say, a Bill Maher liberal and whatever it is I am at this point, may be a voting decision, but it's actually not much in terms of what we would want this country to look like.
bill maher
I hate to be a broken record, but I gotta go back to the conceding elections is kind of a big one.
dave rubin
No, so that's a voting thing.
Like, I just think he's the only chance at this point to reset any of the bullshit.
And you know, I didn't even support him during the primary.
So it's not like, um, you know, some, like, MAGA hat wearing, like, he can do no wrong.
bill maher
By the way, tell your boyfriend in Florida that for Mr. Small Government to be telling people what colors they can make their bridge and telling strippers that they... I don't know if people know this, but he just raised the age you could be a stripper from 18 to 21.
Do you know this?
dave rubin
I didn't know that.
I haven't been to a strip club in a while.
bill maher
Yeah, me neither.
unidentified
Okay, good talk!
dave rubin
So that's the fundamental difference.
It's saving democracy on one hand, and also you want 18-year-old strippers.
I respect it.
bill maher
I'm just saying, for somebody who's like small government to be doing things like that?
dave rubin
Well, it wasn't that you can't paint the bridge with everyone.
He just didn't want rainbow flags or rainbow-colored bridges.
bill maher
But shouldn't we be free to paint the... Not paint the bridge, just light the bridge.
Any colors we want.
unidentified
I mean, to take the bait on that is just so ridiculous.
dave rubin
I think people have just had enough of all of that.
bill maher
I've had enough of that.
dave rubin
People hate all of the pride bullshit and nonsense.
bill maher
Yeah, but let them hate it.
dave rubin
Well, I think he said it can only be lit up red, white, and blue or something if they're going to do lights.
bill maher
I don't have a problem with that.
Is it government's job?
Is it government's job to do that?
dave rubin
To decide what lights to put on the bridge.
Well, I guess it's somebody's job.
bill maher
And to decide what an adult, and you're an adult at 18, you can drink and serve in the army and vote, what they can do as far as their... vocation?
dave rubin
As far as their poll relationships?
bill maher
Let me just demonstrate what I'm talking about.
It would take like two seconds and it would save us a lot of words.
No, you know, it's a legitimate question.
dave rubin
No, I think that's legit.
You're 18, you're an adult, you should be able to strip if you want to strip.
bill maher
I'm not saying the 18 to 21 stripper issue is my number one issue in this film.
It's more the conceding elections thing.
But, you know, you gotta take it into account.
dave rubin
What do you see all your friends doing here?
Are they all kind of going crazy now in the last couple weeks as this thing's going off the rails?
bill maher
You talking about the Biden thing?
dave rubin
Yeah, like the Hollywood people and the more... The Hollywood people.
bill maher
Did you see George Clooney today?
dave rubin
I know.
They lost Clooney when you lose Clooney.
The Casamigos fortune.
That funnels all the money to the elections.
bill maher
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
It's all tequila money.
bill maher
At the meetings.
dave rubin
You know I'm making my own tequila?
bill maher
At the meetings, George Soros.
unidentified
Yeah.
bill maher
Always gets up first.
dave rubin
He says.
bill maher
And then we eat a couple of babies.
unidentified
Yeah.
bill maher
You know, he makes some opening remarks.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bill maher
We eat some babies and then Clooney.
Uh, and, uh.
unidentified
You're not supposed to say this out loud.
bill maher
Oh, you're so right.
The cameras.
Anyway.
Um, no, I mean, I don't, I don't talk.
I mean, the people I, Talk to you about this.
I think we're all on exactly the same page.
You know, I don't know anybody.
I personally don't know anybody who's like, except like political types who are, you know, predictably not wanting to stick their neck out.
I don't know anybody who's saying, yeah, let's, let's stick it with, let's stick to Biden to the end.
You know, uh, I heard them use the term run the clock out now.
As a sports fan, run the clock out.
That's what you do when you're ahead.
unidentified
When you're winning!
bill maher
I don't think you do it when you're behind.
dave rubin
Yeah, yeah.
Not when you're, like, counting beeps till death.
bill maher
No.
So, you know, I don't know.
My peeps are all in on Get a new guy in there.
Just even if you're not a huge Democrat or you're fed up with the liberals, you want a fair fight.
You want someone, certainly a lot of us just want to see Trump not elected, but you just want somebody in there who can make sort of the opposite case and who can Give a fair airing to the other way of looking at things.
And we don't have that in Joe, you know?
And as I say, if I had to predict, I would put money on it that he is just not going to be the candidate.
dave rubin
So you think it's Kamala, basically?
bill maher
No, no, no.
dave rubin
Do you think there's some way they can do some trick?
I think they have an open… I think it's gonna be an open convention.
bill maher
Yeah, the vice president isn't automatically inaugurated as the candidate when a president deflects.
That's, you know, I mean, George Bush, the first, had to win that.
There was a primary when Reagan was done with his second term.
He wasn't alone in 1988.
dave rubin
But it was a two-term president that was over as opposed to a guy kind of being pushed out
or...
I agree.
bill maher
It's not exactly the same, but I get your point.
I agree.
But George, they didn't just go, oh, you've been vice president for eight years.
You are now the candidate for...
It was George Bush against who else ran in 1988?
I mean, Steve Forbes or all those people like that.
I mean, it could have been McCain, not McCain.
dave rubin
No, it was before McCain.
bill maher
Okay.
unidentified
But there was some, um, there was some formidable people.
bill maher
Paul Sungus wasn't even a Republican, was he?
dave rubin
I don't know.
bill maher
I'm just throwing a name at you.
dave rubin
There's weed in here, man.
bill maher
Yeah, I know.
I can't think.
But he had serious people who had to take it away from him.
dave rubin
But again, it was after a two-term president as opposed to a guy that's potentially incapacitated or whatever's going on.
bill maher
The point is, the vice president just doesn't automatically get it.
And certainly not one who, for whatever reason, she is not a popular one.
So, you know, again, new characters on this sitcom.
Just get everybody who is not a hundred years old, got a D by their name, and is sort of a centrist, and you can win this election.
And just give us that choice.
Just give us a choice.
Because now it's not a choice for a lot of people.
It's, as you say, dementia.
I mean, I'm going to vote for either jail or hospice.
unidentified
That's not.
dave rubin
Jail or hospice.
That would have definitely been like a pilot that you would have been the game show host of.
Jail or hospice.
bill maher
I gotta go.
dave rubin
All right, Mar, where are you going?
bill maher
Back to work.
dave rubin
You're going back to work.
bill maher
I have a real show.
Not like this show.
A real show.
dave rubin
Can we take three basketball shots?
Yeah, yeah.
bill maher
All right, here's what we're gonna do.
dave rubin
We'll take a free throw, a three, and then I'll- I can't hit threes.
You can't hit threes.
A free throw, mid-range jumper, and then I'll leave it up to Bill Maher.
bill maher
Let's do it.
unidentified
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