June 27, 2024 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| This is the Rubin Report. | ||
| It's June 27th, 2024. | ||
| That's right, it is finally debate night. | ||
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| And we're doing something a little special today in honor of the debate. | ||
| I am joined by my official co-host on today's program, Dr. Phil McGraw. | ||
| Dr. Phil, how are ya? | ||
| I am well. | ||
| Happy birthday. | ||
| Thank you, thank you. | ||
| It is good to see you, my friend. | ||
| We're gonna dive into all of the issues of the day, mostly floating around these two, or actually, I should say three presidential candidates, because why don't we start with this? | ||
| You are releasing, an hour and a half before the debate tonight, a 90-minute sit-down with the guy who will not be on stage, in my opinion, should be on stage, RFK. | ||
| So let's just throw to a quick promo, and then I wanna discuss that with you. | ||
| You're in a run for the President of the United States. | ||
| My first question is why? | ||
| I wouldn't be running if I didn't think I could win. | ||
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They're suing me. | |
| They won't provide me secret service protection. | ||
| You're the fifth person in your family to run. | ||
| Two have been assassinated, and you don't get secret service. | ||
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The one group that I don't do well with, which is baby boomers, they think I'm genuinely a lunatic. | |
| Are you a lunatic? | ||
| You could be the decider in this race. | ||
| That's Thursday on Dr. Phil Prime Time. | ||
| So as I mentioned, that will be airing 90 minutes before the debate tonight. | ||
| I want to start with that last question though. | ||
| Are you a lunatic? | ||
| It seems that a lot of people think he's out there a little crazy, whatever it might be. | ||
| I've interviewed him several times. | ||
| We have some agreements, some disagreements, but this is a good man who loves the country. | ||
| And I think he should be on that debate stage. | ||
| I think he should be on the debate stage. | ||
| But listen, people always say, You know, why do we just have two people to choose from for president? | ||
| I heard a comedian say recently, we've got 50 choices for Miss America and only two choices for president. | ||
| Kind of a good point. | ||
| And I do think people say these are two of the most unpopular choices for president that we may have ever come down to in the final election. | ||
| Uh, that could be true. | ||
| Uh, and we have a third choice and here's the thing, Dave, I think actually this guy could be. | ||
| Maybe the most influential person in deciding who's going to be the president of the United States, because he is polling, particularly in the swing state, some of the swing states. | ||
| Uh, in double digits. | ||
| And if he decides to put all of his influence behind one candidate or the other, or if he just pulls from one candidate more than the other, he could actually swing this election and decide who the president is. | ||
| Perot had that impact when he ran. | ||
| So this could be the most important person in determining who our next president is, and people aren't hearing from him. | ||
| Nobody will interview him. | ||
| The mainstream media won't. | ||
| ABC, NBC, CBS see it. | ||
| Nobody wants to talk to this guy. | ||
| So I thought, hell, I'm going to talk to him. | ||
| Jake Tapper, who everyone knows is moderating, co-moderating the debate tonight, literally said on his show on CNN that he would not have RFK on because of his dangerous views. | ||
| I mean, that's what we're dealing with with the mainstream media. | ||
| Also, it's interesting, you know, you mentioned that he could swing this thing because of double digits in some states. | ||
| He doesn't even have to be on all of the ballots in every state. | ||
| He just has to get on a couple ballots where it matters, and that could change the whole thing right there. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And he's on six ballots right now. | ||
| He's suing to be on some others. | ||
| And you know, if people write him in or if they just decide, Hey, I'm, I'm, I'm throwing in with him. | ||
| And he, he takes votes from one candidate or the other in a real close race. | ||
| Uh, he absolutely could decide who the next president is. | ||
| So, uh, and listen, I talked to him and, I've got to say, I think we are an ADD society. | ||
| We read headlines. | ||
| We don't read down through long articles. | ||
| I ask him about all of the conspiracy theories that he is associated with and that he has talked about, vaccinations and all. | ||
| I think people I asked him hard questions about those. | ||
| And I think people are going to be shocked when they hear what he actually says versus what has been attributed to him. | ||
| He's not as far out there on some things as people think. | ||
| Now, like you, you've interviewed him and I don't agree with him on everything. | ||
| And I told him, I absolutely do not think that vaccinations cause higher risk for autism. | ||
| The issue is with mercury. | ||
| It is down to trace levels or below on most vaccinations. | ||
| You can put them on a schedule now. | ||
| I think it's just absolutely not a factor. | ||
| I would hate for him to influence people to not get their children vaccinated | ||
| against dangerous diseases. | ||
| And hear what he has to say about it. | ||
| And I think people will, will, will change their opinion of him. | ||
| And some of the things that he he's been criticized about, if you listen to what he says, instead of the headline, I think people will have a different view. | ||
| Well, I'm looking forward to it and I'm glad that you did it. | ||
| And yes, we do need more voices regardless of who anyone is supporting. | ||
| I think most of us can agree on that. | ||
| But we are going to spend most of the show talking about the guys who will be on the debate stage tonight and some of the format itself. | ||
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| Eastern. | ||
| And I thought an interesting way, Dr. Phil, to start this, because you sat down with Donald Trump not too long ago, and we're gonna throw to a clip of that in just a bit. | ||
| would be the main issue that I think most people see right now, which is something cognitively wrong with Joe Biden. | ||
| So obviously, there's a plethora of evidence of that. | ||
| that, here's just one from yesterday. | ||
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My name is Joe Biden. | |
| I'm Joe Biden's husband. | ||
| Thanks to all the members of Congress and Homeland Security Secretary. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I don't want to make light of this, even though I think in some ways we have to make light of it because it's so ridiculous. | ||
| But look, he's forgetting Mayorkas' name. | ||
| It's the mumbling, the stumbling. | ||
| We've seen this a million times. | ||
| Being handed the questions, all of those things. | ||
| What do you make generally of his mental state? | ||
| Not making a diagnosis, but just what we all see and the media doesn't seem to want us to see. | ||
| Well, you know, first off, it's not Biden's fault that he's 81. | ||
| I mean, uh, that's a victory in this day to be 81. | ||
| Um, and whether anybody wants to acknowledge it or not, um, and 81 used to seem pretty old to me and, uh, the closer I get, the more reasonable it seems. | ||
| Um, but there is no way. | ||
| That people don't experience some cognitive slowdown. | ||
| It's not always a chronological thing but the fact of the matter is we start losing some cognitive efficiencies when we hit 40. | ||
| Usually there we start losing some cognitive agility In our 40s, by the time we're 50, 60, 70, and then certainly in our 80s. | ||
| So to deny that that's happening would be ridiculous. | ||
| The fact that it's maybe accelerating with him is a fiction. | ||
| Certainly it is. | ||
| And forgetfulness is something that kind of has two different Categories. | ||
| One is when you just can't remember somebody's name or whatever. | ||
| And then there's kind of a bigger forgetfulness when you just absolutely can't pull something up. | ||
| It's gone from Your brain, it's been erased. | ||
| The engram, so to speak, is just gone and you can't call it up. | ||
| If you sat there for a week, you couldn't pull it up. | ||
| And you know, that's the more serious deterioration. | ||
| And I think there's some of both going on, but there are people that I know and trust who know him well that say when You sit down with him in a room and talk to him that he's still sharp and can carry on a good conversation. | ||
| But when the stress is on and the pressure is there, that always erodes somebody's cognitive efficiency because there's a lot of noise going on and you divide attention. | ||
| And the problem is, the presidency is probably the noisiest job on the planet. | ||
| And that's where you have to surround yourself with a lot of people so you don't have to multitask so much. | ||
| But I mean, clearly... It's also interesting because the bar has been set so low that even you said it right there, that people say, okay, he can sit down in a quiet room and have a conversation, but we could be on the verge of a nuclear war. | ||
| I mean, this is not necessarily the guy you want woke up at 3 a.m. | ||
| with the big question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the whole problem. | ||
| That's what I said. | ||
| The president is probably the noisiest job that you can imagine because you have all of these tasks going on domestically and internationally. | ||
| And you're subject to being called to the threshold of important decisions in the middle of the night. | ||
| The things that can affect you at any age cognitively are lack of sleep and stress. | ||
| Those are probably the two most elusive things in a high pressure job. | ||
| Uh, stress and lack of sleep because come on, you get awakened in the middle of the night. | ||
| Uh, a high pressure decision has to be made. | ||
| Uh, I think it's a very difficult situation for somebody at that age. | ||
| Um, and I'm really surprised that our, our, our president right now is in that situation. | ||
| So you have to look around and say, who's he surrounded by? | ||
| Is he really the one that's running the country or is it the people that are around him? | ||
| But, I mean, the only thing I object to, Dave, is that I see so many professionals diagnosing him from afar, which you cannot do. | ||
| You simply can't diagnose somebody from watching clips like the one we just saw. | ||
| Anybody can look at that and say, yeah, that's not good functioning right there. | ||
| Of course it's not, but what does it mean? | ||
| Is it early stages of dementia? | ||
| Is it mid stages of dementia? | ||
| Is it some type of problem with circulation in the brain or whatever? | ||
| Nobody really knows what's going on. | ||
| They just know that's not efficiency Um, in terms of cognition, cognitive agility, recall, we know that that's not good. | ||
| We just don't know what it is or how bad it is. | ||
| Uh, but he's, you know, clearly not functioning at the highest level. | ||
| And then you have to say, you know, president Trump, uh, for president Trump is what three, four years younger. | ||
| Uh, and he seems to be more cognitively efficient, which is why I say it's not just chronological, um, But he'll be crossing into 80 soon. | ||
| So you've got to start looking at vice presidents, who's behind them, who they're surrounded by. | ||
| That's what worries me. | ||
| Yeah, I think there's an awful lot of reason to worry about that, particularly on the Democrat side. | ||
| And we'll see who Trump ends up picking. | ||
| I want to throw to a video over on MSNBC in preparation for the debate tonight, because they promoted a poll on who would better protect democracy. | ||
| And it was quite interesting in that they actually aired this on MSNBC. | ||
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Today the Washington Post and George Mason University are out with new polling that asked voters in six key swing states who they trusted more when it came to protecting our democracy. | |
| Joe Biden or Donald Trump. | ||
| And somehow, Donald Trump came out on top. | ||
| 44% of voters in those six swing states trust Trump over Biden to protect democracy. | ||
| In Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Georgia, 44% of voters trust Donald Trump. | ||
| Dr. Phil, it seems to me the key there is that this was battleground states. | ||
| These were the states that are up in the air and more people are now looking at Trump going, oh, he'll defend democracy even despite the fact that he's a convicted felon. | ||
| Maybe that's exactly why they think he'll defend democracy. | ||
| That's just another indicator of what's going on with the Democrats right now and Biden. | ||
| Yeah, I find it really interesting. | ||
| You and I talked about this before, The people on the left don't like to use the word convicted felon anymore. | ||
| They like to talk about justice-involved individuals. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you've got a conviction against Trump, then all of a sudden convicted felon is back in again. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's okay to use that term now. | ||
| Up until then, you weren't convicted felons. | ||
| You were a justice-involved individual. | ||
| But I don't hear- Justice-impaired, I think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't hear him calling him a justice-impaired or justice-involved individual. | ||
| He's a convicted felon. | ||
| Look, I think they're martyring Trump by doing what they're doing. | ||
| Referring to it now as a lawfare, as a version of warfare by weaponizing the justice system. | ||
| And I think people see that as politically motivated. | ||
| And when they are, I think that's been either disregarded or in fact worked in his favor. | ||
| I know he raised a lot of money. | ||
| Uh, after that so-called conviction. | ||
| And when I see people saying that, uh, they think he is more apt to protect democracy. | ||
| I've been doing some focus groups with people and I've been talking to my studio audience after, uh, our show tapings 250 people a day. | ||
| Uh, and it's interesting how they're deciding. | ||
| What is an attack on democracy? | ||
| And the border is playing really big into that. | ||
| Ah, interesting. | ||
| And it's interesting to hear him say, I used the example the other day that I think of America as my home. | ||
| And I'm at my home right now. | ||
| I wouldn't go open my door and let somebody in here that I don't know who they are or what their agenda is. | ||
| Seriously, I just wouldn't go up my front door and let strangers come into my house. | ||
| And I think of America as my home. | ||
| And I think at the border, we're just opening the door and letting strangers in, not knowing who they are or what their agenda is. | ||
| And my studio audiences are saying time and time again. | ||
| And I've got people in there on the left, the right and undecideds. | ||
| And the one thing they tend to agree on is we don't have a border and we're letting strangers in here and don't know who they are, what they want. | ||
| And they are saying that is not protecting democracy, that if we don't have a border, we don't have a country and we're not protecting our citizens. | ||
| I completely agree. | ||
| I think this is the unifying issue and the fact that the media hit it while a bunch of us online were talking about it for a year, these videos, and we'll get to them in just a second. | ||
| You know, the line I've been saying on this, if you want to borrow a line from me, Doc, is that Andrew Breitbart used to say that politics is downstream from culture. | ||
| And I've been saying everything is downstream from immigration, because you're right. | ||
| Either you have a border or you don't. | ||
| And if you don't, then you really don't have a country. | ||
| But we'll get to some videos from the border and how ISIS is actually taking advantage of this porous border in just a sec. | ||
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| And let's just talk about the border. | ||
| This is from NBC News. | ||
| They are now openly admitting that, yeah, if you have an open border, that perhaps some bad guys, ISIS bad guys, might walk their way through it. | ||
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NBC News has learned more than 50 migrants with potential ties to an ISIS-affiliated smuggling network are at large in America. | |
| Many illegally crossed the border and were released into the U.S. | ||
| by Border Patrol because there was no information suggesting terror ties at the time. | ||
| Now their whereabouts are unknown as immigration agents look to arrest them. | ||
| U.S. | ||
| officials tell us, saying they're among a group of over 400 migrants DHS identified in the U.S. | ||
| from Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Moldova, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia and Russia as subjects of concern because they were brought to the U.S. | ||
| by an ISIS-affiliated smuggling network, something the FBI director warned about earlier this year. | ||
| Some of the overseas facilitators of the smuggling network have ISIS ties that we're very concerned about. | ||
| ICE has located and arrested over 150 of the 400 migrants so far, with some already deported from the U.S., officials say. | ||
| Adding authorities are not panicking because their ties to ISIS are not certain. | ||
| But they're prioritizing their arrest out of an abundance of caution. | ||
| NBC News was first to report on a similar arrest of an Uzbek man in Baltimore, whose country alerted the U.S. | ||
| he was affiliated with ISIS. | ||
| That man, like the others apprehended so far, was arrested on immigration charges, not terrorism-related charges. | ||
| Doc, I think that clip right there illustrates the concern of your audience members, because if we are going to let in, say, seven to ten million people in three years, three plus years, which is what we've done, some of them are going to have bad intentions. | ||
| We would be totally narcissistic and naive to believe, one, that some of them don't have bad intentions, and two, that we know who all of these people are and where they are. | ||
| In 2023, we had thousands and thousands of Chinese nationals come across the border, particularly Down south of San Diego. | ||
| And many of them were military age men. | ||
| And I've seen some of these. | ||
| And let me tell you, Dave, these guys, they've all got the same haircuts. | ||
| They've all got very similar backpacks. | ||
| They've all got very similar combat boots on. | ||
| They're all in really good shape. | ||
| I mean, these guys look like they've just come out of basic training. | ||
| And where are the women? | ||
| Where are the children? | ||
| Where are the grandmas? | ||
| And how did they get here? | ||
| Look, you don't just wake up in China and say, I think I'll go to the United States. | ||
| It costs a lot of money. | ||
| You got to get out of China. | ||
| They're being sent. | ||
| They're not just going off on a lark and saying, I think I'll go to Disney World or something. | ||
| It's not easy to get here. | ||
| And when you've got thousands, tens of thousands of people that could very well have a bad agenda and they get into the country and spread out, the worst case scenario is if we've got, you know, four or 5,000 people in maybe 20 different states within the United States that all of a sudden make a coordinated attack on our energy grids, man, we could Be back in a real third world countries sort of scenario overnight and we have no idea who these people are or where they are. | ||
| And to me that is criminal negligence that we have allowed these people to come in. | ||
| And we don't know where they are, and we don't know what they're doing, and we don't know what their agenda is. | ||
| That's this. | ||
| And the energy scenario you just laid out, that's just one of a multitude of things that could happen. | ||
| And as I always say, I'm not worried about the things I can think they might do. | ||
| I'm worried about all the things that we haven't thought of yet. | ||
| Unfortunately, the guy in charge of this is Alejandro Mayorkas, who still, even now, is basically saying everything is fine. | ||
| Check this out from CNN yesterday. | ||
| Why do voters feel like Donald Trump can handle it better in poll after poll? | ||
| Kate, look, the fact of the matter is our policy is working. | ||
| Our policies are working. | ||
| We need our system fixed. | ||
| The numbers that we inherited In 2021, we're on the cusp of the COVID-19 pandemic and do not speak to the trends in immigration preceding the pandemic. | ||
| What we have done, what this administration has done, is we have brought the economy moving forward. | ||
| We have conquered the COVID-19 pandemic more rapidly and more effectively than any other country. | ||
| And so with a booming economy and with a healthy American public, we have regained our stature as the place of destination where everyone wants the opportunities that only America offers. | ||
| Doc, I'd say that he's gaslighting us in real time, but it feels more like just utter gibberish. | ||
| I mean, I understand he's putting words together into a sentence, but none of that is ringing true to anyone, which proves the earlier poll we referenced. | ||
| Let me respond to that, if I can. | ||
| Please. | ||
| Look, I don't know him. | ||
| He may be a nice guy. | ||
| He may play a game of golf or be fun to watch a movie with. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know this guy. | ||
| Let me respond to what he's saying. | ||
| That's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard in my life. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| We've got people in the job of solving problems that aren't problem solvers. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| He's up there trying to protect his job, trying to cover his ass, and he has no more idea in a goose what he's talking about. | ||
| That is word salad, and if If he's trying to say pandemic schmandemic, it hasn't got a damn thing to do with the pandemic. | ||
| What it has to do with is his job is to protect this country, protect this border, have some control over who's wandering around our streets. | ||
| The border is controlled by the cartels, not the United States government. | ||
| That's who's deciding who's coming in this country and who's not. | ||
| And if he is trying to gaslight America that, hey, everything is cool. | ||
| All he's doing is lulling people to sleep. | ||
| So they're not aware and they're not prepared and they're not ready for what is an impending threat in this country. | ||
| They need to kick him to the curb and get somebody in there that at least acknowledges that there's a clear and present danger right now and acts accordingly. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Did somebody write stupid on my porch? | ||
| I wasn't looking. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Unless they did it to all of us, I'm not so sure. | ||
| But now I want to show you, this is just a quick 12 second clip. | ||
| This is his boss, Joe Biden, and listen to how dismissive he is about the same stuff Mayorkas was just talking about there. | ||
| We have to acknowledge that the patience and goodwill of the American people is being tested by their fears at the border. | ||
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They don't understand a lot of it. | |
| We don't understand a lot of it. | ||
| Dr. Phil, I don't think you have to be a rocket scientist to see the videos that we're seeing every day and understand what's going on here. | ||
| Look, Lassie could figure this out. | ||
| When you sit over on the side of a hill and you watch thousands of people coming across and they've got backpacks and you have no idea what's in them, a good guess is fentanyl. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| A hundred thousand people are, and I hate when people call this overdose. | ||
| These aren't overdoses. | ||
| They're poisonings. | ||
| This stuff is being fabricated in China. | ||
| It's going to the Sinaloa cartel where it's being pressed into pills. | ||
| And it's coming across the border into the United States and distributed throughout and killing tens of thousands of Americans. | ||
| Kids are ordering this stuff on Snapchat. | ||
| 100% of the pills that are ordered on social media are counterfeit. | ||
| And 40% of those pills have lethal doses of fentanyl in them. | ||
| And we've got the president of the United States standing up there saying, hey, we've got this under control. | ||
| No, you don't have it under control. | ||
| Tens of thousands of Americans are being poisoned every day. | ||
| If this was happening with airliners going down, 100,000 people a year being killed on airlines, they'd be grounding all the airplanes. | ||
| but yet they're standing up there saying, no, no, no, we're good. | ||
| We're good. | ||
| No, we're not good. | ||
| And that's just having to do with poisonings of America. | ||
| What's happening with all these people that are, we had so many Chinese coming into the country that they started forming their own police departments to try to keep these guys low profile. | ||
| So they wouldn't draw attention to themselves. | ||
| You got a lot of military age. | ||
| They have testosterone running through their veins. | ||
| So they started creating problems. | ||
| They had to make their own police departments to keep them under control. | ||
| So they came in and broke those up. | ||
| They should have monitored them and gotten a footprint on where all of these people were. | ||
| That was a good way to track who we lost track of. | ||
| Who's thinking for these people, Dave? | ||
| I do not know, which leads us to this debate tonight, where we're going to sort of finish where we started, because obviously the border is going to be a huge issue. | ||
| Trump certainly will try to make it a huge issue tonight, because things were significantly better under Trump, and they called him racist for it. | ||
| But check this out. | ||
| This is from CNN, and they did this video. | ||
| It almost seems like it's for third graders, but explaining how some of their rules will work this evening. | ||
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If we go behind the podiums, you can see two green lights. | |
| When they're on, they signal to the candidate his microphone is on. | ||
| When the green lights are off, they signal to the candidate his microphone is off. | ||
| Now I want to give you a sense of what it will look like for viewers at home if a candidate whose microphone is off interrupts a candidate whose microphone is on. | ||
| So I'm standing at one podium, and I'll ask Phil to come in and take the other podium. | ||
| And so let's say I'm answering a question. | ||
| My light is green, and I'm speaking. | ||
| Phil's microphone is off, and his green lights are not illuminated. | ||
| He's going to interrupt me as I'm speaking, and this is what it will sound like. | ||
| My volume remains constant, while Phil's interruption can be difficult to understand. | ||
| Let's try the opposite. | ||
| My microphone is now on. | ||
| Victor's microphone is off. | ||
| And he's going to interrupt me. | ||
| My volume remains constant, while Victor's interruption can be difficult to understand. | ||
| Asena's production team has shared this demonstration with the campaigns earlier today, and we're sharing it with you, our viewers, so everyone fully understands how tomorrow night will work. | ||
| Now, we should note by agreeing to participate in this debate. | ||
| Both campaigns and candidates have also agreed to abide by these rules. | ||
| The CNN Presidential Debate airs live tomorrow night at 9 p.m. | ||
| Eastern. | ||
| Doc, has culture just been dumbed down so significantly that we're just getting what we deserve right now? | ||
| We have news anchors basically explaining to us what colors and lights actually do and what microphones on and off mean and everything else. | ||
| Like, I just feel a dumbening, an intentional dumbening of this country that is rather extraordinary. | ||
| I'm sorry, I fell asleep while that was playing. | ||
| I was wondering, I thought you were writing out all the rules over there. | ||
| Maybe you had some others. | ||
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Oh, come on. | |
| Really? | ||
| That's what they want to tell us about this debate? | ||
| My God. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And the interesting thing that I pulled out of all that is I think they're close enough where they can reach out and touch each other. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think Trump speaks a little louder than Phil there was speaking, so I think President Biden's mic might pick up Trump a little more than it picked up Phil, so I'm not sure they're going to be able to turn Trump's mic off. | ||
| He just may use Biden's as much as Biden uses his. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Curious, what do you think Trump's approach is going to be tonight in terms of handling Biden? | ||
| Well, I think the main thing that will be on everyone's mind is can Biden quite literally just stand there for the hour and a half? | ||
| Can he actually stand there and can he finish a sentence? | ||
| Somebody mentioned it yesterday. | ||
| I thought it was a great analogy that basically listening to Biden speak is like watching a four or five year old on the swing set outside or the jungle gym where it's like you're watching and at any moment the kid could fall. | ||
| And that's sort of where we're at. | ||
| I would say mentally with Biden. | ||
| I would say Trump is going to be fairly aggressive and try to expose that as much as possible. | ||
| But what I've been saying I'd like to see from Trump is just be as professional and statesmanlike as possible. | ||
| You don't have to go for the low-hanging fruit with him because everyone is seeing this and it's bearing out in the debate. | ||
| So I think Trump is going to be pretty controlled tonight. | ||
| But you never know when actually this perfectly gets us to the next clip because the two moderators are Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, who it seems fairly obvious to me are Democrats. | ||
| Trump agreed to do it on a network he's constantly going after. | ||
| He agreed to rules that don't benefit him because obviously he can do stuff off the cuff and now the mics will be cut. | ||
| And here's just a little bit of Jake Tapper's history with Donald Trump. | ||
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The dehumanizing rhetoric of Adolf Hitler is once again alive and well on a national political stage. | |
| This time, of course, in the United States. | ||
| Donald Trump, a couple times over the weekend, referred to immigrants from South America, Africa and Asia. | ||
| He did not mention Europe. | ||
| South America, Africa and Asia as, quote, poisoning the blood of our country, which It's not hyperbole. | ||
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That does very directly echo Adolf Hitler's language before World War II. | |
| If you were to open up a copy of Hitler's Mein Kampf, you would find the Nazi leader describing the mixing of non-Germans with Germans as poisoning. | ||
| There's really no other way to say it. | ||
| Donald Trump's language mirrors this directly. | ||
| Doc, we also showed a clip yesterday, and there's many clips of it, of Jake Tapper repeatedly pushing the very fine people on both sides hoax, without mentioning, of course, that Donald Trump completely condemned the white supremacists and the neo-Nazis. | ||
| Do you think Trump wanted it this way? | ||
| He wanted sort of rules that seemingly would be against him, which is why he agreed to it, and then also wanted two hosts that we can show those type of videos because it does feed the energy behind his point, it's me against the system. | ||
| Well, I think he may be going with an idea of debating Jake Tapper and, uh, having some of those quotes and repeating those back to, uh, Tapper and saying, you know, you are, uh, masquerading as a moderator when in fact you are a hit man, you are here with an agenda. | ||
| And that's just more of the fake news. | ||
| And I think he's going, it would not surprise me if at some point he just disregarded Biden and went after Tapper for saying things he's saying, which gives him the opportunity to really get up on his hind legs and bark about being persecuted, where he doesn't have to worry about Uh, coming across as a bully, uh, to someone that seems feeble, uh, he's lesser in stature. | ||
| Uh, he's feeble in terms of his, uh, manifestation and that's not the case with Tapper. | ||
| So I think he can be controlled with Biden where he has to worry about coming across as a bully, but with Jake Tapper, uh, he can go full guns and take him on for calling him. | ||
| Uh, Hitler surrogate and that sort of thing. | ||
| So I think he may lean into that. | ||
| He certainly is not intimidated by Tapper. | ||
| He's fully aware and will be prepared for the things that he said. | ||
| So I think he may actually use that to energize the entire debate. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's an interesting take because that would explain why he would agree to do this on a network that is largely against him, with hosts that are largely against him, with a series of rules that are largely against him. | ||
| Just kind of ignore the other guy. | ||
| That would be something. | ||
| I want to throw to one more clip. | ||
| We're going to finish up with this because you did a sit down with Donald Trump a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| We played a bunch of clips on my show. | ||
| I thought it was really, really excellent. | ||
| You asked some really good questions. | ||
| I want to throw to one clip and then I just want to kind of get your feelings about Trump really as a person more than on the political side of things. | ||
| Everybody calls it inflation, but affordability. | ||
| When we talk about gasoline, under your administration, average $2.57 a gallon. | ||
| Under Biden, $3.61, 40% more. | ||
| Under your administration, homes, average $320,000. | ||
| Under the Biden administration, 31% more, $420,000. | ||
| Under your administration, interest rates, 3.8 average. | ||
| $320,000. Under the Biden administration, 31% more, $420,000. | ||
| Under your administration, interest rates 3.8% average. Under the Biden administration, | ||
| 39% more at 5.3%. Okay, now let's look at the border. | ||
| I'm going to go ahead and close the meeting. | ||
| Under you, average 1.7 million border crossings. | ||
| Their official number is 6.4. | ||
| That's from Homeland Security. | ||
| It's actually about 13 million. | ||
| Because I know, I've been to the border, I've talked to the border guards down there, Brandon | ||
| Judd, I've talked to Jason Jones, I've talked to the people that actually know the numbers. | ||
| They say it's between 10 and 13 million. | ||
| So my point is, when you look at the actual numbers, plus the things you just talked about, | ||
| lower taxes, higher tax revenue, you look at that and you would say, my God, he should | ||
| be running unopposed. | ||
| I mean, why? | ||
| I mean, why? | ||
| Very conservative. | ||
| As an example, I had gasoline down to $1.87, not $2.57. | ||
| It's now almost at $4. | ||
| It's going to be at $5 very shortly. | ||
| It's going way up. | ||
| I took very conservative numbers so people couldn't argue with me. | ||
| Well, interest rates, I was at 2.6%, they have 3.8, and now they're at 9%, 10% and you | ||
| can't get money. | ||
| So, you know. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| We did a great job. | ||
| We did a great job. | ||
| So that's just obviously a small portion of the interview, but he has a command of what's going on. | ||
| But actually, I think to end this, maybe let's not talk about the issues as much as the man himself. | ||
| What was your impression sitting down with him? | ||
| Was that the first time you guys had actually met in person? | ||
| And what was your sort of key takeaway? | ||
| I've known President Trump for long before he was president, and he's He's been on my show and helped do some things a time or two. | ||
| I've known him a long time, but not well. | ||
| And we've always been cordial and friendly, but I've not known him well, but I've known him a long time. | ||
| I found him to have Been changed by the presidency and I think people think that he's like Teflon, everything just rolls off his back. | ||
| I don't think that's true at all. | ||
| I think he's, I think he's been damaged by all of the attacks that have come against him. | ||
| I think it's taken a toll on him. | ||
| He is not broken by any means, but I do think It's, it's taken a toll. | ||
| I think it, it bothers him and he doesn't show it a lot outwardly, but I think it's bothered him. | ||
| And the thing that I talked to him about towards the end a lot was this concept of revenge. | ||
| And I really wanted to impact him about, look, I don't think this country wants to go through. | ||
| Another four years of getting even and it's actually, there's a lot of evidence that suggests that revenge is an addiction. | ||
| It's a loop and it lights your brain up just like an addiction to opioids or something of that matter. | ||
| It's the same pathways. | ||
| It's the same pleasure centers that light up. | ||
| And it gets into a loop that you can't get out of. | ||
| And my suggestion to him was, look, the country's not interested in that. | ||
| You might be, but did it help the country that they've come after you so much? | ||
| And he said, no, it hasn't helped the country. | ||
| So then why do you think it would help the country if you went after them? | ||
| They may deserve it. | ||
| And he said, you know, sometimes it's a good thing. | ||
| Sometimes it's justified. | ||
| It may be justified, but I think the country right now, you, you have a chance to be a hero here and say, look, it's these people may have it coming, but every situation needs a hero. | ||
| And that hero is going to be me. | ||
| I'm putting all that behind me and my number one, Priority is the American people and improving their safety, security, and standard of living. | ||
| And when I've talked to audience after audience after audience, I'm talking thousands of people, there's been a real consistency. | ||
| Number one, they want security. | ||
| And number two, they want safety. | ||
| And number two, they want the security. | ||
| And when they say that, they say, I don't want to have to worry about being able to feed my family. | ||
| I don't want to worry to lose my house. | ||
| I don't want to worry about being able to pay my bills. | ||
| They want to be safe from their enemies and they want to know that they can make ends meet. | ||
| Those are the two things they care about. | ||
| Everything else is a bunch of rhetoric to them though. | ||
| And if you go back, Dave, if you go back all the way to the 40s, Abraham Maslow, and you look at the hierarchy of needs, Survival and then safety. | ||
| Those are the two things that have always been key for people. | ||
| Everything old is new again. | ||
| I mean, people want to know I'm not going to be killed in my bed and I'm going to be able to feed me and my family. | ||
| That's what they're interested in. | ||
| They're not interested in all the rest of this stuff. | ||
| And by the way, his line on that, I think he might have actually said it to you, was that success will be his best revenge. | ||
| And to me, that is the thing that anyone, regardless of political party, should want in this country. | ||
| Doc, I appreciate your time, your interview with RFK, the guy who unfortunately will not be on the debate stage. | ||
| We'll be up an hour and a half before the debate tonight. | ||
| We'll be doing a live chat in Locals if you want to join us during the debate tonight. | ||
| Sage Steele will be here. | ||
| So it's rubenreport.locals.com for that. | ||
| And then we'll be doing a live post-game show, me and Sage, after the debate. | ||
| And then I'll be joining Megyn Kelly about halfway through, which will be on both of our channels. | ||
| And once again, Dr. Phil, I thank you for your time and good luck. | ||
| What's your debate-watching habit tonight? | ||
| What do you do for a debate? | ||
| I'm going to be walking back and forth with a pad in my hand, writing down stuff that just drives me crazy and then probably commenting on social. | ||
| I may even call you and talk about it. | ||
| I love the way you really air out The two sides of this. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I mean, you give a really balanced view of these things, which is why I love talking to you. | ||
| You're doing a great job, Dave. | ||
| Oh, I appreciate that. | ||
| That means a lot coming from you. | ||
| Well, thanks a lot. | ||
| And yes, we will feel free to text me and we can vent for some of the things that I can't quite say on social media. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So long, everybody. | ||
| Postgame show in about 30 seconds. |
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