May 20, 2024 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| ♪♪♪ I'm running for the Colorado State Senate. | ||
| Of course I'm going to knock on your door every day until you turn in that ballot. | ||
| I'm running for the Colorado State Senate. | ||
| Of course I buy a new dress every time there's a fundraiser. | ||
| I'm running for the Colorado State Senate. | ||
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I don't know you, but of course I'm going to call you repeatedly for money. | |
| I'm running for the Colorado State Senate. | ||
| Of course I don't know your name until I see your name tag at the fundraiser. | ||
| I'm running for the Colorado State Senate. | ||
| Of course I support reasonable gun control. | ||
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Of course I support immigration and finding viable paths to citizenship. | |
| Of course I support rural health care initiatives. | ||
| Of course I support a woman's right to abortion. | ||
| I'm not running for Colorado State Senate, but I am hosting this show on. | ||
| I'm Dave Rubin. | ||
| This is The Rubin Report, and do not adjust your screens. | ||
| I am a little lower today than usual. | ||
| That's because we have a special guest host for today's program in studio with me, none other than Conceptual James, the once banned Conceptual James on Twitter, James Lindsay. | ||
| Yeah, once banned. | ||
| For your, what, 500th appearance on The Rubin Report now? | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| I think this is 500. | ||
| You've finally done it. | ||
| You came to Miami in the hottest week we have had all year. | ||
| It's about 162 degrees outside. | ||
| It was. | ||
| Yesterday was rough. | ||
| It's good to see you, my friend. | ||
| We are going to dive into a whole bunch of stuff. | ||
| We got some clips from another old Rubin Report guest, Gad Saad, who was recently on Joe Rogan. | ||
| We're going to show you the elderly man pretending to be president. | ||
| We got a fight in Congress. | ||
| We're going to do some AI stuff and just catch up on a whole bunch of things. | ||
| But before we dive into all of that, we were saying, well, first off, we both have realized that we now, at our advanced, how old are you? 44. | ||
| 44, I'm 47. | ||
| We both have hit the age where when we're looking at notes we have glasses and it is what it is. | ||
| Look how smart we look. | ||
| Do you feel smarter? | ||
| No, but I... It's so hot right now that my gla... Do you see this? | ||
| My glasses are actually fogging up because... | ||
| Well, welcome to Florida. | ||
| Welcome to Florida, that's right. | ||
| Freedom here, and it's hot. | ||
| But let's do one little thing before we dive into the clips, which is that largely, you have been calling out this stuff, and right, at least directionally so, about all of this for years. | ||
| You were calling out the craziness of the woke stuff. | ||
| You were saying that all this anti-white sentiment really was gonna lead to a lot of bad stuff as it pertained to the Jews. | ||
| It's sort of all bursting forth right now. | ||
| I guess my one question would be, do you feel good about that? | ||
| Or like? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I do wish the dark money checks would show up though. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Oh, so you're not paid by, No, it turns out. | ||
| We're all paid by some sort of dark cabal. | ||
| Turns out when you get paid by the dark cabal, you get wrong answers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Instead of right answers. | ||
| So no, I don't feel that good about it. | ||
| I hate to watch it kind of unfold. | ||
| It's, I mean, it's a bit like raising kids in a sense where you tell them to do something | ||
| and you watch them just, you know, touch the stove or do something. | ||
| No, I don't feel good about watching the world burn. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| But we tried, we tried, and I suppose we'll continue to try. | ||
| That's what goes on our tombstones. | ||
| We tried. | ||
| We tried. | ||
| Speaking of people that are trying, Gadsad was on Joe Rogan talking about the suicidal empathy that so many in the West have these days, and we thought we'd start with that. | ||
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Take a look. | |
| That don't share our foundational values. | ||
| Again, this doesn't mean, someone's gonna write in the comments section, what a hypocrite. | ||
| You're an immigrant, Gadsad. | ||
| Well, there are immigrants and there are immigrants. | ||
| There are tons of Muslims who want to come in here and leave all that baggage at the door. | ||
| They want nothing to do with that. | ||
| They just want to live the American experience. | ||
| The problem is we don't have the machine that can look into your heart and mind, right? | ||
| So it's a statistical game. | ||
| So if you're going to let in hundreds, I mean, look what's happening in Germany. | ||
| Look what's happening in France. | ||
| Look what's happening in Denmark. | ||
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Well, let me ask you this. | |
| Why do you think that stuff is happening? | ||
| Why do you think this is mass immigration? | ||
| So that's a great question. | ||
| So it's covered partly in Parasitic Mind, my earlier book, and in my next book, which I call Suicidal Empathy, right? | ||
| So empathy is an emotion that has evolved for very clear evolutionary reasons. | ||
| So just like any of our other emotions, for example, envy, there are evolutionary reasons why we've evolved the emotion of envy, right? | ||
| It can compel us forward. | ||
| I see that Joe's doing well. | ||
| keeping up with the Joneses, maybe it'll get me off my fat ass so I can work harder. So there are | ||
| very clear evolutionary reasons why empathy exists. But the problem is when empathy misfires, | ||
| it either becomes hyperactive or it misfires in directing the empathy to the wrong person. | ||
| So for example, illegal immigrants more important than American vets, right? | ||
| And I can show you many public policies where you have these insane policies, all of which are due to suicidal empathy. | ||
| So to answer your question, I think that the Western mind is we are kind, tolerant, compassionate, empathetic people. | ||
| There are people out there, they're Guatemalan, they're Honduran, they're Yemeni, who don't | ||
| have it as well as we do. | ||
| Wouldn't it be nice if we open up our doors? | ||
| So the reflex is a noble one, it's a nice one, but it exists in unicorny. | ||
| I have to say, as I sit here with one of the guys that was largely right about this stuff, | ||
| it's always a pleasure listening to Gad because he's been warning about this for years. | ||
| Unfortunately, the roadblocks that we were all trying to put up didn't work, I suppose. | ||
| But this idea that empathy, that we in the West put empathy, or Jordan Peterson talks about this a lot, putting tolerance up in that tops position of the hierarchy, it has led to a disaster right now. | ||
| It seems to me that we are now seeing on the shores of the United States what we've all been seeing clips of on Twitter, in Europe for years and going, we shouldn't have that happening here. | ||
| And now it's happening here and we don't seem to be doing anything about it. | ||
| That's, I mean, there's so many things that could be said. | ||
| First of all, you know, I was talking to Joe, he asked me the exact same question about two months ago on the show. | ||
| People can go watch. | ||
| It was the first thing. | ||
| So we're just get talking, you know, and he's like, why do you think immigration is happening? | ||
| And I'm like, whoa, Joe, okay. | ||
| Have you heard of the Cloward Piven strategy? | ||
| And we went all the way tinfoil hat right away. | ||
| So contrary to the empathy. | ||
| How far do you want to take us on that ride right now? | ||
| I mean, it's just that Cloward and Piven were two socialists who were coming up with a strategy for how you break a wealthy country and you overload its financial and social services resources. | ||
| So you bring in immigrants, you up crime, you keep the budget deficit high until you end up with a financial crisis. | ||
| And so... | ||
| There you go. | ||
| You import millions across the border. | ||
| They're very expensive. | ||
| You have a financial crisis. | ||
| So you intentionally break the system so that they sort of need the new socialist system? | ||
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That's right. | |
| So they need a new system. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Because now we have so many people. | ||
| They're dysfunctional. | ||
| You have to take care of them. | ||
| Things broke. | ||
| So now everybody's dysfunctional. | ||
| So you have to take care of them. | ||
| Not as, you know, oh this is organic and Westerners are just so nice. | ||
| But that is, Gad's right, that is the empathy, the suicidal empathy he calls it, is the tool that allows it to happen. | ||
| And we've been manipulated for at least 50 years. | ||
| You can read in The Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon. | ||
| The foreword to that, or preface, is by Jean-Paul Sartre. | ||
| And it's called A Letter to Europe. | ||
| And he's like... | ||
| The savages are coming, and you better give it away. | ||
| And look how great you've had it, and they're going to take it, and they'll murder you if you don't give it away. | ||
| And that's really the strange death of Europe. | ||
| You know, our friend Douglas wrote the book titled that, but that foreword really should be titled the strange death of Europe. | ||
| They accepted it, and it's exactly what Gad said. | ||
| It's that we care. | ||
| We get this, this, oh my gosh, we've had it good. | ||
| We're a little bit guilty for that. | ||
| It's so crappy for other people. | ||
| And we don't have that kind of Donald Trump, oh, they're from shithole countries, you know, attitude that it's like, well, it's their job to get their stuff together too, which is a much more like, frankly, classical liberal, not even a conservative position. | ||
| It's like individual responsibility, self-governance, different areas have to get their stuff together. | ||
| So they weaponize that empathy and get us to override our better sense and that enables strategies like Cloward Piven or whatever else to be able to be foisted on the people. | ||
| And then like you said, it's now it's happening and people either don't know what to do | ||
| or they're just not doing anything about it. | ||
| I predict like we had in 2020, a critical race theory explosion. | ||
| I think in 2024, we're gonna have a critical immigration theory explosion. | ||
| It's gonna look carbon copy. | ||
| Therefore, I don't think it's going to work. | ||
| I don't think the American people will fall for it, but it's gonna be ugly. | ||
| So you mentioned Douglas Murray and Strange Death of Europe. | ||
| The other line that he has on this is that one day the barbarians will be at the gate and we'll be debating what gender pronouns to call them. | ||
| Yeah, well... And I think that that really is sort of where we're at right now. | ||
| We have this strange, this really psychotic mix of Marxists and Communists and Socialists and Antifa and Hamas people, and they're taking over our universities. | ||
| It's been going on for decades. | ||
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A lot of people didn't seem to believe it was going on, but it has led us to another clip from What's crazy to me is, regardless of how you feel about how the Israeli military and the army is pursuing the war in Gaza, regardless of that, the blatant | |
| Just out in the open anti-semitism that we see today. | ||
| It's like nothing I've ever seen before like like roaches coming out of the woodwork. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| Like you see it all over social media and it's like this. | ||
| If this was September and not October, you would be shunned. | ||
| Everybody would be like, this is horrible. | ||
| How the f*** could you say this? | ||
| You're openly anti-Semitic. | ||
| You're openly blaming the Jews for all the world's problems. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| This is Nazi s***. | ||
| And yet you're seeing it everywhere now. | ||
| When those teachers were in front of Congress, when those principals of those universities were in front of Congress, And they were saying that it's not harassment to say death to the Jews unless it's actionable, which is the craziest mental verbal gymnastics I have ever heard anyone say that's in that position, in a position of being the head of Harvard. | ||
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It was so crazy to watch. | |
| It's so crazy. | ||
| It's almost like we live in an alternative timeline. | ||
| Like, we entered into a new dimension. | ||
| Like, in our sleep, we woke up, but we're in a new place. | ||
| Okay, so I know that does not surprise you. | ||
| I tried, right before we started the show, I put your Twitter name in, and Jews, because I wanted to see if I could find you saying basically that, that from, you know, say, seven or eight years ago, which I have no doubt you did, that in essence, this woke stuff was going to be very bad for the Jews in the end. | ||
| And ultimately it'll be bad for the Asians and sort of any minority that succeeds. | ||
| But again, I suppose the whole theme today will be none of this surprises you, right? | ||
| None of this surprises me. | ||
| James is not surprised. | ||
| That's going to be the only question I just repeat to you over and over again. | ||
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Are you surprised? | |
| No. | ||
| Are you happy? | ||
| No. | ||
| End of show. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Where's the dark money check? | ||
| Yeah, so in 2020, I wrote an essay in October 2020, I wrote an essay called critical race theories Jewish problem. | ||
| And I laid out everything, like both sides of it, the critical race theory, interpreting Jews as white, and therefore going after them, recreating the anti semitic conspiracy theory that they've hoarded privilege to themselves under the set, you know, the trendsetters of society, even though there's this exclusive minority, they've recreate the whole thing. | ||
| And then, secondly, is this kind of post-colonial nightmare, where the existence of Israel, allegedly as a U.S. | ||
| and British-backed state, is the injection of whiteness and Western values into the Middle East, and this is a catastrophe. | ||
| And I just wrote then that this is a disaster in the making. | ||
| There's this book, it's called How Jews Became White Folks, and what that means about race in America. | ||
| It's by a woman named Karen. | ||
| I mean, really? | ||
| Karen Brodkin. | ||
| And that book's from like 99. | ||
| And it just lays all this stuff out. | ||
| And so I was just like, God, people need to read. | ||
| And so I told people back in 2020 what happened. | ||
| I got smeared as anti-Semitic for saying this. | ||
| Apparently that accuses progressive Jews of causing anti-Semitism or something. | ||
| And I got nuked for this. | ||
| So I should have been more savvy because, you know, all this vile anti-Semitism has exploded. | ||
| The left doesn't surprise me at all. | ||
| The right Does a little bit. | ||
| Honestly, I know that there's genuine anti-semitism on the right. | ||
| I'm not playing this naive card on this kind of far right. | ||
| I know about the whole Groyper phenomenon. | ||
| I know all of this is happening. | ||
| So it's not that surprising, but the volume of it that kind of erupted, and even from mainstream characters, was really kind of shocking to me by November or so. | ||
| But one of the first things I said about what happened in Israel, on October 7th, I think by about the 9th, I was calling it Gaza Floyd, like George Floyd, and the Israeli response is going to be extremely vigorous. | ||
| The left is going to now take up this cause celeb of the poor Palestinian Muslims, blah, blah, blah, and that's what we see on college campuses. | ||
| But what happened on the right kind of shocked me. | ||
| And so I sat there and I thought about it and Joe's like, what's going on? | ||
| It's like we're in an alternative timeline. | ||
| Yeah, we are. | ||
| It's called psychological operations. | ||
| I think a lot of it's there. | ||
| And I think that you shouldn't really believe that what you see on social media is totally indicative. | ||
| There are these movements. | ||
| We know the Gropers exist. | ||
| We know that, you know, I mean, Do we name names? | ||
| We know that Candace is saying weird stuff. | ||
| We know this Christ is King narrative is being used in a double meaning. | ||
| One side is it's a statement of Christian belief in a particular theology, and on the other side it is a weapon that says, you know, you're going to bend the knee. | ||
| And People know this. | ||
| I mean half the Jewish people I know called me freaking out. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| What's happening from people on our side? | ||
| But I think that what you're seeing on the social media at least is largely manufactured largely. | ||
| Largely in operation to make it appear that this is a groundswell. | ||
| One of Mao's techniques that he used in China in the 1950s was called Planned Spontaneity. | ||
| And that's written all through like Beautiful Trouble, Rules for Radicals. | ||
| You make it look like there's a spontaneous groundswell, but it's fake. | ||
| It's theater. | ||
| Like we find out with these campus uprisings. | ||
| I won't call them protests, by the way. | ||
| These campus uprisings, what happens? | ||
| Well, they get rowdy, the cops show up, they arrest a bunch of people. | ||
| And what do they find out? | ||
| More than half, usually more than two-thirds, are not even affiliated with the university. | ||
| Not students, not faculty. | ||
| Where'd they come from? | ||
| Who's paying them? | ||
| People start digging finally. | ||
| Imagine that journalists on the right actually dig at some point, and then what do you find? | ||
| Oh wow, they're being paid by this group, and that group, and the other group. | ||
| Whoever it happened to be. | ||
| I don't have the details, so I won't wander into it. | ||
| But, oh wow, it's AstroTurf. | ||
| It's fake. | ||
| It's theater designed to make these things, this groundswell appear to be happening, and to freak everybody out, and to gain momentum in it. | ||
| Is part of what's going on here that none of us can really gauge the chasm between the online discourse and what's going on in real life? | ||
| So if you spend all day online, it seems like everything is falling apart at once. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying that there isn't a lot of evidence of that. | ||
| You can't let seven or 10 million immigrants into a country, illegals into a country in three years, right? | ||
| And those are probably conservative, right? | ||
| I think seven is probably conservative, 10 is probably closer to it, something like that. | ||
| But that's a real thing. | ||
| Obviously, I'm not denying that that's real. | ||
| But you can spend all day online finding endless lunacy everywhere. | ||
| Yeah, the sky is always falling. | ||
| Right, so I think partly what we're dealing with right now is that people don't know how to hold those two things at the same time. | ||
| That there's sheer lunacy online, there is an obvious lunacy in the real world, but they're not quite matched up. | ||
| And that leaves us all in this weird spot. | ||
| Well, our friend Jordan, Jordan Peterson, one time he did this very controversial, everybody lost their mind, he said, male aggression doesn't upload. | ||
| It's physical violence. | ||
| Female aggression is this social, nasty, you know, gossip violence. | ||
| It uploads to the internet really well. | ||
| It goes to social media very effectively. | ||
| We haven't calculated for that, you know, he gets all Jordan emotional. | ||
| But he didn't talk about how, like, personality disorders also upload very effectively. | ||
| It's really easy to be a psychopath online. | ||
| And a psychopath can have 30 characters online very easily, you know, so they can have disproportionate influence. | ||
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Then you add in the bots. | |
| So there's the disconnect between the fact that people go online to express their stress, their psychopathy, whatever else. | ||
| There's a disconnect. | ||
| But there's another thing. | ||
| I don't know if you've ever sat down and talked to Robert Malone about the internet. | ||
| Yes, we've talked about mass formation psychosis and everything else. | ||
| You talk about a paradigm shift when he starts talking about, you know, the numbers of people that they know that the United Nations hires to run interference online, that the British government hires people to go run interference online. | ||
| That character, not just even bots, even paid people, that's arguing with you about some thing that you put this controversial on social media | ||
| might just be being paid to get your goat. | ||
| Or it might be a 15 year old just trying to get your goat. | ||
| And so the thing is, is that it's like, the insanity online is like, | ||
| that's where you go, you get stressed out and you just want to say something, | ||
| because it's actually like techno prayer. | ||
| And you want absolution for your stress. | ||
| But then at the same time, it's so much fake. | ||
| It's also so interesting to me, having been in this game for 12 years at this point, | ||
| the online game, that people are still so focused on the comments. | ||
| Because, you know, we'll get a video that has a million comments, and I'm very, very proud of our audience, and I think it's a credit to what we've built here. | ||
| My audience, they're not crazy trolls. | ||
| They're not all awful people saying horrible things. | ||
| A lot of other channels that do something similar, it's not that way. | ||
| But if a video gets, say, a million views, and it gets 10,000 comments, and the comments are all negative or mean or whatever. | ||
| I'm not even talking about my channel right now, on any channel. | ||
| Everyone thinks that's indicative of something, but that means that 990,000 people watched and didn't comment. | ||
| So it's we focus on only the type of people that engage in the online behaviors, and I think that's wildly just also So it's not always fake, but it's so easy to manufacture that that illusion I Somehow at one point and maybe 20 21 a few years ago I got sucked somebody sent said it was like all the antifa stuff was going on or whatever and it was like Do you know they have a slack channel? | ||
| Somebody sent me a link or whatever. | ||
| I'm just click on it. | ||
| I go into their discord I don't know which one it was I go into their server There's a thousand people in there and they're like, it wasn't you. | ||
| I'm just, you know, we'll use your show as the example. | ||
| Dave Rubin just posted this flammatory video. | ||
| Go bomb him. | ||
| And so now you get 700 comments, but that's just manufactured. | ||
| Now you think if that's organic, angry activists, but if you think, well, maybe it's not, maybe there's, you know, Some dude who pays people, he's on some grant money or whatever, and their jobs are to go leave comments or swarm. | ||
| The left used to do this to me all the time. | ||
| You'd put a certain thing, usually about trans people, and you would just get piled on Twitter. | ||
| So you're basically saying we're caught between sort of Machiavellian psychotic trolls and potentially foreign governments or even our own government operating against us in the digital realm? | ||
| Right, plus the fact that on average people are there to either show off their witty selves or to upload their stress. | ||
| So it's like, I read a book about neuroscience, and I feel bad because I can't remember what the book was called a number of years ago, but the lady called it, the author called it, the amygdala of the internet. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, you have the stress and you're like, what do I do? | ||
| I'm like, I'm gonna go tell people about it. | ||
| Just to bring this back to that clip, and then we'll move on. | ||
| What do you think the Jews could be doing a little bit differently, if anything, right now, to fight this lunacy? | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| They did a really good job with the Aurora, you know, charging the space laser. | ||
| I stole that joke from the Rebel on B. That was a good one. | ||
| Clever, they said. | ||
| You know, Aurora Borealis used to cover up the charging of the space laser. | ||
| No, the truth is what has to come out as often as possible, so it's up to every individual. | ||
| I don't speak ever in terms of what groups of people need to do, but it is incumbent upon people who want Something that represents them to be understood, to speak up. | ||
| So, Jewish people who have a view that is rooted in, you know, liberty and clarity and why these things are happening, need to speak up and talk about it. | ||
| I will warn them. | ||
| I don't want to take anything away. | ||
| I'm going to get called bad names for this. | ||
| Say as much of the, you know, historical victimhood stuff, which is legitimate, as you want, but that is poisoned currency right now. | ||
| So if you lean in that direction, expect that it's going to be, oh, you're just playing a poor me card. | ||
| And it's not going to be as effective as articulating what I don't hear enough of, a friend of mine calls it, you know, instead of like Jew-phobia, Jew-philia. | ||
| Like, what is Jewish faith about? | ||
| A lot of Americans don't know that much. | ||
| What do we really stand for? | ||
| If you talk to observant Jews, it's like they're really usually very based. | ||
| And so, get that out there. | ||
| Like, start talking about, you know, what's the difference between Jews and pagans? | ||
| Why is the stuff that's happening not in line with Jewish theology? | ||
| Because the big thing we're not saying right now is, of course, that the Jews are behind the communism and they're behind the whole thing, right? | ||
| So, communism's a Jewish plot. | ||
| That's the idea, right? | ||
| Communism is fundamentally incompatible with Jewish faith, if you know the first thing about Jewish faith. | ||
| We don't. | ||
| Most Americans, Christians in particular, don't. | ||
| They have generally positive feelings towards Jewish people for various reasons, but they're ignorant reasons, not that they're bad. | ||
| We need these clear articulations. | ||
| This is what Jews stand for. | ||
| This is why the individual is so important in Judaism. | ||
| This is what we mean by community. | ||
| No, of course, we don't have this idea of, you know, collective power, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| By the way, one of the reasons that I like asking you about these things is because you are an atheist and you have now found common cause mostly with people of belief, largely Christians, and yet here we are. | ||
| So we're all We're all basically on the same side. | ||
| We will get to a guy we're not on the same side of, and he has dementia, you know who I'm talking about. | ||
| He gave one of the most awful speeches imaginable this past weekend at Moorhead College. | ||
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| Oh yeah, the Reebok. | ||
| Now they have trampolines in shoes. | ||
| There are trampolines in shoes. | ||
| I'm so excited for this. | ||
| Little known fact, I think it was Reebok, if I'm not mistaken, someone will fact check me, it's the internet, that in around 1994, Karl Malone on the jazz had a shoe that had a little trampoline in it, and they banned it. | ||
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Oh, really? | |
| In the NBA, yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's amazing. | ||
| My guys, they'll check on that. | ||
| But let's go from highly trained athletes doing things that most people can't do to a man who can't do things that most people can do, which is speak. | ||
| Joe Biden very poorly read off the teleprompter, as always, at the graduation at Morehouse College this weekend. | ||
| But this speech, and we're gonna play you about a minute long clip, it is just The worst sort of pandering evil drivel. | ||
| So thus the perfect Democrat presidential speech. | ||
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Go. | |
| It's natural to wonder if democracy you hear about actually works for you. | ||
| What is democracy? | ||
| If black men are being killed in the street, what is democracy? | ||
| Betrayal of broken promises still leave black communities behind. | ||
| What is democracy? | ||
| You have to be 10 times better than anyone else to get a fair shot. | ||
| Most of all, what does it mean, as you've heard before, to be a black man who loves his country, even if it doesn't love him back in equal measure? | ||
| In America, we're all created equal. | ||
| Extremists close the doors of opportunity, strike down affirmative action, attack the values of diversity, equality, and inclusion. | ||
| I never thought when I was graduating in 1968, as your honoree just was, we talked about, I never thought I'd be a president at a time when there's a national effort to ban books. | ||
| Not to write history, but to erase history. | ||
| They don't see you in the future of America, but they're wrong. | ||
| To me, we make history, not erase it. | ||
| We know black history is American history. | ||
| I'm sorry guys. | ||
| Well, I'm sorry, not sorry, but I never heard Donald Trump say anything as evil as what you just heard there for the last 60 seconds. | ||
| I mean, that was the worst sort of grievance politics. | ||
| I just want to read you one stat. | ||
| This may not blow your mind, but I think it will blow some people's minds. | ||
| 2023 interracial homicides. | ||
| 86 blacks were killed by whites. | ||
| 86 blacks were killed by whites. | ||
| 488 whites were killed by blacks. | ||
| That runs highly counter, let's say, to what he just laid out there. | ||
| Also, black people, he told them that they're going to have to be 10 times better to get a fair shot. | ||
| He clearly has no idea what's going on in our corporations or anything else. | ||
| I mean, it's evil. | ||
| I don't know how to describe it as anything other than evil. | ||
| And, you know, we often talk about the motives of these people. | ||
| Are they just, is Joe Biden just confused about these issues? | ||
| That is, I mean, I know he doesn't know what he's, I know he doesn't know what he's saying and he's slurring through most of it and everything. | ||
| And also the Botox or whatever they're doing, he's looking angrier. | ||
| Go. | ||
| Yet again there's 3,000 things to say. | ||
| I think my favorite part is there in the middle where he says, you know, in America we're all created equal and extremists want to get rid of affirmative action, diversity, equity, inclusion programs, which implicitly they're based off of the disparate impact doctrine of legal theory. | ||
| They implicitly assume that we have to do remedial activities to make up for It's so upside down. | ||
| But the beginning part where he's, what is democracy? | ||
| And it's very clear he doesn't know. | ||
| He doesn't even give a definition. | ||
| He doesn't realize that we're a republic. | ||
| I mean, Donald Trump famously got asked what he was thinking at one point, and he said, just to be clear, Joe Biden doesn't know he's alive. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so, but what is democracy? | ||
| What he's actually riffing off of, again, a lot of people haven't read, is Vladimir Lenin wrote a book in 1917, the year he took over Russia and established the USSR. | ||
| It's called State and Revolution. | ||
| And chapter five is about democracy. | ||
| It's just a rewrite of that. | ||
| I mean, I saw that this morning. | ||
| I was in the Uber on the way over here, listening to that in the back of the car, and I was like, oh my God, he's doing Lenin. | ||
| Like, this is a straight Lenin act, which is that there's, his idea was that we say that we have democracy, but we don't have democracy because the bourgeois classes, the rich classes, the privileged classes, they have their democracy, but they keep everybody else. | ||
| You got to be 10 times better to even have a fair shake. | ||
| That's the messaging here. | ||
| And what he says is what we need then is we need an ideal democracy. | ||
| But to get there, what we need is a proletarian democracy. | ||
| And what that means is he explicitly says that means the silencing of the voices, the repealing of the right to vote, the confiscation of the property of the bourgeois classes so that they can be brought down so everybody's more equal. | ||
| That's what I see. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not about lifting everybody up. | ||
| It's about bringing a certain set of people down. | ||
| I was just thought it's impossible to lift everybody up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The only thing that lifts everybody up is when you have a thriving economy where the entire thing comes up together. | ||
| So even the people who are doing badly in the economy are doing better than they would be otherwise. | ||
| As I was watching it, I kept thinking, you know, if you were a young black man who's now graduating, you're graduating, and the president of the United States shows up to give the commencement speech, he then tells you how evil and racist the country that he's president of is. | ||
| He then tells you, you will have to work 10 times harder. | ||
| It's like, what an awful message to send that young person out in the world with. | ||
| And they are now creating clone soldiers. | ||
| They put these people out into the world, and then they, well, this is very odd. | ||
| Why do they want to burn the whole country down? | ||
| There is a reason, however, guys, that Biden is trying to stoke fear amongst the black community right now, and it is because an awful lot of black people are breaking away from the Democrat Party, hallelujah, and even CNN is addressing it. | ||
| But look at this number for Donald Trump. | ||
| 22%. | ||
| Where was Donald Trump at this point four years ago in the polls? | ||
| He was just at 9% of the vote. | ||
| So he's seen more than a doubling in his support among African Americans. | ||
| This margin, which was in the 70s, Just four years ago. | ||
| Look at where it is now. | ||
| 69 minus 22. | ||
| That puts it in the 40s. | ||
| My goodness gracious! | ||
| If this held through the general election, obviously we're still months away, this would be by far the best performance for a Republican candidate among black voters in a generation, two generations, probably since 1960 and Richard Nixon against John F. Kennedy. | ||
| That's how long we're really talking about when we're looking at this margin here. | ||
| This could be a truly historic margin. | ||
| It's quite a troubling sign for the Biden campaign. | ||
| I mean, that's a game changer if it holds, right? | ||
| Let's not forget Donald Trump. | ||
| I say it all the time. | ||
| State of the Union, what was it, 2017 State of the Union, when it was lowest all-time black unemployment, lowest all-time Hispanic unemployment, and the Congressional Black Caucus sat there like this. | ||
| AOC didn't even show up. | ||
| I think, and again I don't like to do the group thing, but largely there is a segment of the black population that is like, wait a minute, he's not Hitler and these people are doing nothing for us. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, what they're doing is hatecraft. | ||
| And people are tired of being pushed into it. | ||
| I talk to people all the time, you know, I get all kinds all over the place. | ||
| I'm in Ubers, I'm talking to different people all over, and I hear this kind of consistently. | ||
| I still, you know, run into people that are pretty hard Democrat and this and that, but this idea that it's like all you hear from them is negative, negative, negative, and nothing's working. | ||
| I hear all the time this from people who claim to be Democrat, and it's both sexes, all races, you know. | ||
| What do you mean both sexes? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
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No. | |
| What? | ||
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No. | |
| Two. | ||
| Two. | ||
| Just two. | ||
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Did you know that I even... | |
| We'll check that out. | ||
| We were even talking about Joe Rogan. | ||
| You know Joe, you don't... | ||
| Joe's alpha, right? | ||
| He's maximum alpha. | ||
| So Joe's like, we're talking about Admiral Levine, which I just call Admiral Levine usually | ||
| because you get in trouble if you call Dick or Richard. | ||
| So Joe's like, well she blah blah blah, and I said, he. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just cut him off. | ||
| Wow, even Joe was doing that. | ||
| No, Joe was with me after that. | ||
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Oh, good. | |
| We snapped him. | ||
| It's like this spell people are under. | ||
| Well, first off, the fact that his name is Dick is hilarious. | ||
| That's number one. | ||
| And also Dick Levine, Rachel Levine, said that his greatest joy in life is having kids because he was a man his whole life until a couple years ago, and now he's for gender reassignment surgery for 12-year-olds. | ||
| I mean, the level of evil there is so off the charts, it's unimaginable. | ||
| It's, well, we just saw Tantamount Evil from Biden. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Yeah, that's the racial version. | ||
| But what I hear from all these people is that maybe they don't like Trump or they don't trust Trump or they think he's still a bad guy, but at least stuff worked. | ||
| At least stuff wasn't, you know, everybody said everything was insane, but it seemed like that was a media thing. | ||
| I hear this all the time, but what's happening now is actually ruining the country. | ||
| I hear it from New Yorkers a lot. | ||
| They usually aren't talking about Biden. | ||
| They're talking about Kathy Hochul. | ||
| They're like, she is ruining the state and there's nothing we can do about it. | ||
| And there's this reservoir of growing powerlessness. | ||
| That's, you know, that's like a potential. | ||
| It's just going to shoot out like an arrow. | ||
| And I think we're going to see, I mean, I don't know what we're going to see in the election because who knows what that's even going to mean, but let's pretend there's that that's, you know, an election. | ||
| We're going to see record support. | ||
| All of those white people in 2016 who pretended they weren't going to vote or whatever and then they came out in big numbers for Trump, it's everybody else now. | ||
| Sure, but I suspect you also think they've got some tricks up their sleeve and that we could enter another George Floyd type summer because they know that they can't let that thing get to the 22%. | ||
| You can even hear it in the CNN analyst's voice, like, oh shit, we can't let that happen. | ||
| So, I mean, that's always the fear, right? | ||
| We just come out with a new George Floyd. | ||
| Right, well, I think the new George Floyd is going to be an immigrant, of course, because that's where the energy is all gone. | ||
| But that's another one of these breaking points, these fractures. | ||
| You hear these people in all the cities, these black people in the cities are coming out and like, what, you're putting them up in five-star hotels? | ||
| You're giving them debit cards? | ||
| What'd you ever do for us? | ||
| You know? | ||
| You promised us, we voted for you, you promised us, we voted for you, and now it's all going to illegals who are just dumping into our cities? | ||
| Like, what the heck? | ||
| So this is another huge, huge problem for the Democrats that they're facing right now. | ||
| Also, what is the statistic that just came out? | ||
| They estimate maybe 27% of these illegals are registered to vote in the United States. | ||
| See, you know, Elon Musk has been banging that drum for months. | ||
| He's like, they're going to let him vote. | ||
| They're going to let him vote. | ||
| So you got Cloward Piven, you're going to let him vote. | ||
| And then the third thing is you've imported your proletariat for the other side of the communist revolution. | ||
| You can kind of see why. | ||
| The open border is happening when you put the pieces together. | ||
| Hey, Phoenix, can we have the team all, we're gonna get some more guns after the show, okay? | ||
| More guns today, this afternoon, you can come with us. | ||
| You wanna come get some guns? | ||
| Florida, it's very easy, we're gonna get some guns. | ||
| Alright, you wanna talk more about racism in a second? | ||
| I'm gonna do an ad, then we'll get back to racism. | ||
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| Anyway, let's talk about other racist stuff happening. | ||
| Congress is this place in D.C. | ||
| Some of you have seen videos of it. | ||
| It is basically just a circus of useless people arguing about nonsense all day, but every now and again, they call each other racist, and that's kind of fun, so enjoy. | ||
| Do you know what we're here for? | ||
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You know we're here about- I don't think you know what you're here for. | |
| Well, you're the one talking about- I think your fake eyelashes are messing up- No, ain't nothing- Hold on, hold on. | ||
| Order, Mr. Chairman. | ||
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Would you order the regaining order of your committee? | |
| I do have a point of order, and I would like to move to take down Ms. | ||
| Greene's words. | ||
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That is absolutely unacceptable. | |
| How dare you attack the physical appearance of another person? | ||
| Are your feelings hurt? | ||
| Move her words down. | ||
| Oh, girl. | ||
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Baby girl. | |
| Oh, really? | ||
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Don't even play with me. | |
| Baby girl? | ||
| I don't think... We are going to move, and we're going to take your words down. | ||
| I second that motion. | ||
| I'm just curious, just to better understand your ruling, if someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody's bleach-blind, bad-built, butch body, that would not be engaging in personalities, correct? | ||
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A what now? | |
| Chairman, I make a motion to strike those words. | ||
| I don't think that's a part of it. | ||
| I'm trying to find clarification on what qualifies. | ||
| Chairman, motion to strike those words. | ||
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I had no idea what you just said. | |
| We're not going to, we're not going to do this. | ||
| Look, you guys earlier literally just said. | ||
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You just, you just voted to do it. | |
| I'm trying to get clarification. | ||
| Look it, calm down. | ||
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Calm down. | |
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Because this is what it all do. | ||
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So I'm trying to get clarification. | |
| Calm down. | ||
| Can you please calm down? | ||
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Calm down. | |
| Please calm down. | ||
| You're out of control. | ||
| Talk noise and then you can't take it. | ||
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Because if I comment on your b**** about her, y'all gonna have a problem. | |
| These people are supposed to be in charge of something, It's just so ridiculous. | ||
| So that, the woman with the eyebrows who's screaming, that is Representative Jasmine Crockett from Texas. | ||
| Obviously it was Marjorie Taylor Greene who was commenting about the eyebrows, and then they got into it. | ||
| The best part of that was the guy with the white hair going, the what now? | ||
| No, he just doesn't even know what she's saying, but okay, fine. | ||
| They're having their little fracas. | ||
| Jasmine now, Jasmine Crockett, is going on mainstream media, and yes, she's talking about the racism as it pertains to fake eyebrows. | ||
| Here's Jake Tapper, who's supposed to be the one sane guy over at CNN pushing that theory. | ||
| You have since called her racist, Congresswoman Greene. | ||
| I want to understand your perspective of this. | ||
| Do you think her going after your eyelashes, that that in itself is racist? | ||
| I think her specifically doing it to me, yes, that was the intent. | ||
| As has been stated, you know, women wear makeup, we wear lashes, we wear all types of things to beautify ourselves. | ||
| But MAGA has historically been on social media doing the things where they're saying, oh, she's black with lashes and nails and hair, and so she's ghetto. | ||
| And so to me, this was her Buying into that rhetoric and trying to amplify this for the MAGA crowd. | ||
| And so, yeah, I absolutely think that she only did it to be racist towards me. | ||
| Because it was towards you or because it was eyelashes? | ||
| So in that sense, it's kind of like, in your view, buying into a racist trope. | ||
| It is buying into a racist trope. | ||
| But the reality is that women of all colors wear lashes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| That's what I was asking. | ||
| Now, James, of course, sitting across from me, you're wearing fake eyelashes. | ||
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Is that... Thank you for noticing. | |
| They're lovely, by the way. | ||
| Your badly built butch body. | ||
| James, I mentioned to you that occasionally on the program when I don't want to analyze a clip because it doesn't even deserve it, I just punch an inflatable clown. | ||
| The clown is not here today. | ||
| The kids had it this weekend. | ||
| Can I just punch you right now and then we can move on? | ||
| I'm not a clown. | ||
| You're not a clown. | ||
| This concept that somehow fake eyelashes or commenting on someone's obvious fake eyelashes implies racism. | ||
| I have simply no doubt that Marjorie Taylor Greene would have used the exact same insult on a white woman that had said had such obvious. | ||
| It's not racist but or you'll see whatever color she is. | ||
| It's just like this is just endless and it's sucking us all into the pit of hell. | ||
| There's at least two things to say and one is that I agree with you very obviously. | ||
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This is a shit show. | |
| But that's Congress. | ||
| That's the other thing to say. | ||
| Congress, just to calm everybody down a minute, Congress has pretty much always been like this. | ||
| I mean, Sam Houston beat a guy with a stick. | ||
| But at least back then there were principled arguments, I suppose, right? | ||
| when they weren't beating each other with sticks. | ||
| Or when they were arguing about putting together the constitution, they were saying horrible things | ||
| about each other, going after each other's motives and everything else, but there was an argument being made. | ||
| These people are not making any argument. | ||
| So what I suspect happened, because you saw it in the clip, so Marjorie makes her little quip | ||
| and then Jasmine starts firing back. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, little miss righteous indignation speaks up. | ||
| How dare you! | ||
| AOC gets in, and then like two days later, Jasmine figures out that she's had racism happen because Critical Race Theory is calling everything you want to control racist until you control it. | ||
| They know it's this magic power, magic spell. | ||
| But it feels very much like, I listened to her on Jake Topper there, it feels very much like Little Miss Righteous Indignation might have coached her. | ||
| You need to go on TV. | ||
| This is a trope. | ||
| I don't think she actually thinks it, or she might now. | ||
| She might have been convinced of it, but it looked very much like she got coached into here's how you deal with this. | ||
| This is a racism. | ||
| You know, it's like when you pull a fire alarm and you pretend you don't know how to get out of a building. | ||
| And then if anybody says, dude, you did it on purpose, that's a racism too. | ||
| That's Jamal Bowman, as we all know. | ||
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I hate that guy. | |
| I got it. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| I get the references. | ||
| I'm fairly involved in the news. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But actually, you gave me a great segue, because if you think it was coached, I obviously didn't know that that's what you were going to say right there. | ||
| Check out this next follow-up with Crockett. | ||
| Now the part that I think really kind of, frankly, caught the internet afire is when | ||
| you described Green in this request for clarification as a bleached blonde, bad built, butch body, | ||
| which I had to look at my notes to read. | ||
| Any regrets about that kind of language, especially given that you were trying to make a point, | ||
| frankly, about decorum in the hearing room? | ||
| I have no regrets. | ||
| And I'll tell you why. | ||
| Because Marjorie Taylor Greene is the type of person that if you give her an inch, she'll take a mile. | ||
| And the fact that they continue to allow her to break the rules of decorum over and over and over, whether it's the State of the Union that the President is delivering and she's wearing a MAGA hat, or otherwise. | ||
| The reason that she didn't have committee assignments before was because she did not know how to conduct herself as a member of Congress. | ||
| And so if I just sit there and say, oh, well, Marjorie said it about me, what's to stop her to continue to do it again and again? | ||
| And at the end of the day, I was elected as a representative of Congress, but that doesn't mean that I'm supposed to be somebody's doormat. | ||
| If you give them an inch, they will take a mile, or in this case, Marjorie Taylor Greene will take a mile. | ||
| Can you talk about a phrase that you bring up often, the iron law of woke projection? | ||
| Because I'm fairly certain that was exhibit A. | ||
| I had no idea you were going to say it for me. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| They confess by projection all the time, whether it's they're telling people what they're going to do by saying the Republicans do it, they're going to take away your rights, or Joe Biden in his speech there earlier. | ||
| Extremists want to take away your individual rights or whatever it was that he said, your opportunity. | ||
| Yeah, the left is extremists and they're taking away people's rights and liberties. | ||
| But in this case, it is 100% clear that decorum is a hot mess. | ||
| AOC's on her pretending to be a black preacher rant every other week or whatever in Congress. | ||
| She's got her like weird videos she puts out when she's talking. | ||
| So this whole decorum thing, but what It is. | ||
| It's the Iron Law woke projection. | ||
| But they're very skilled at then taking a situation and turning it around. | ||
| And now you can see the lever they're going to work. | ||
| And it's going to be keep Marjorie Taylor Greene out of power and make sure Republicans who might speak up or, you know, say something. | ||
| Do we need it? | ||
| Speaking of these decorum, do we need to bring up Cori Bush? | ||
| Should we just bring up Cori Bush just because? | ||
| Talib or any of them. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Repeatedly, the squad. | ||
| This is their bread and butter, is this kind of provocation. | ||
| And what they do is if anybody answers, if anybody claps back, maybe Marjory's out of line here, whatever, all of a sudden that's the whole huge lever to say they can't have committee appointments. | ||
| This is why. | ||
| And they're already full blast on the attack. | ||
| They've invoked the race magic spell and now they're pushing full out on the attack to make sure that they get a power concession out of it. | ||
| It's just so interesting because it's so thin once you think about it. | ||
| Like somehow she's now on CNN, multiple shows on CNN, decrying racism that was, you know, aimed at her because of eyelashes, except she's allowed to call Marjorie Taylor Greene bleached blonde, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| So you're allowed to make fun of her appearance and her body and her hair. | ||
| But if she makes fun of your eyebrows, now you are the victim. | ||
| And that is, I think, the cycle that you're talking about and how the media then feeds the lunacy. | ||
| The media is super invested in feeding the lunacy. | ||
| It's the same thing as these campus uprisings, all these graduations. | ||
| It's not interesting that 15 students threw a fit and walked out. | ||
| It's simply not interesting. | ||
| We shouldn't even be able to talk about the fact that some overweight young woman decided to tear up her diploma on stage. | ||
| Why do we care? | ||
| Let them throw their fit and leave and don't give them a platform. | ||
| So all conservative media talked about this and gasping, but the reason the Jerry Seinfeld thing, which again the Babylon Bee had the best take where they showed that Newman organized the walkout. | ||
| The media like CNN, the left, the corporate press media, is going to make sure those things that are so divisive get blown up, get seen, and become this flashpoint that creates the opportunity to say, well, it must be racism, or they must have a point, or whatever else. | ||
| Same with this. | ||
| They are in a feeding frenzy right now. | ||
| Isn't that the weird thing? | ||
| I mean, what do you think sort of philosophically is the best way to counter that? | ||
| Because even when we covered the Columbia, was it Columbia graduation that they, no, no, no, it was Duke graduation for Seinfeld. | ||
| It was Duke, yeah. | ||
| And we showed the, all right, 10 seconds of the kids walking out. | ||
| But what I really wanted to focus on was not that, to your point. | ||
| I wanted to focus on him making a really good point about when he talked about privilege and that they should use their privilege and the rest of it. | ||
| But so much of what we do is just reacting to things. | ||
| And it's very hard to extricate yourself out of that. | ||
| It is. | ||
| The general recipe is that you just name the dynamic. | ||
| Here are some kids throwing a fit. | ||
| It's now become a thing, so we have to mention it because it became a thing. | ||
| It's not really worth mentioning. | ||
| It's the same kind of playbook that you would normally use. | ||
| You always hear it when there's like a mass shooter or whatever. | ||
| It's like, don't say their name, don't glorify them, you don't want copycats. | ||
| Or suicide, same kind of thing. | ||
| You want to like... | ||
| You know, draw attention away from that into other issues. | ||
| But you want to name the dynamic, which is that this person did a provocation. | ||
| There is a playbook. | ||
| It turns out, people's psychology changes a lot when they realize there's a playbook. | ||
| And I'm not exaggerating. | ||
| The playbook is called Beautiful Trouble. | ||
| You can go to the website, beautifultrouble.org. | ||
| You can read their playbook. | ||
| It's derived from Saul Alinsky. | ||
| They tell you that on the first page. | ||
| So they have this playbook. | ||
| It's a million little, you know, snippet websites. | ||
| And one of their playbook plays is Do the media's work for them. | ||
| The other is play to the audience that isn't there. | ||
| That girl wasn't tearing up her diploma. | ||
| They weren't walking out on Seinfeld to show something to Seinfeld. | ||
| They were playing to an audience that wasn't there. | ||
| And that audience was CNN. | ||
| Whatever was going to see it. | ||
| And then the conservatives that were going to go bonkers. | ||
| Now it's a huge national issue because some, you know, a few teen number of 20 maybe kids walked out of a graduation while Jerry Seinfeld talks like who cares. | ||
| And then now all of a sudden the Duke administration is like, what do we do? | ||
| It's a national crisis. | ||
| And they've created a massive amount of power out of nothing | ||
| but what you do is you point out this is part of their playbook. | ||
| The playbook's called Beautiful Trouble if you wanna name that one. | ||
| Here's the principle. | ||
| Play to the audience that isn't there and do the media's work for them. | ||
| Whatever it happens to be. | ||
| Escalate strategically. | ||
| They've got this. | ||
| Your enemies reactions, your main action. | ||
| Truly, I'm gonna try to do that a little more on the show. | ||
| I think I implicitly do it by talking about this stuff so much, because otherwise you just end up reacting. | ||
| Yeah, I call it Iron Law of Woke Cosplay. | ||
| I've got four of them. | ||
| You've got projection, you've got corruption, you've got overreaction. | ||
| When they overreact, you know you hit something. | ||
| Like AOC going bonkers. | ||
| Yeah, Marjorie hit something. | ||
| And then cosplay. | ||
| It's LARP. | ||
| They are putting on a theater production in order to get a reaction, and then they use the reaction to their advantage. | ||
| Well, ladies and gentlemen, if you think of the mortal problems that we've been talking about for these 40 minutes aren't enough. | ||
| We are about to enter a digital world that is, like, just beyond imagination. | ||
| ChatGPT 4.0 has now been released, and let's show you a little video. | ||
| Because if you think all of the stuff we're talking about in this world, this carbon world, is an issue, we've got a whole other set of problems on the way. | ||
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Hey, how's it going? | |
| Hey there. | ||
| It's going great. | ||
| How about you? | ||
| I see you're rocking an open AI hoodie. | ||
| Nice choice. | ||
| What's up with that ceiling, though? | ||
| Are you in a cool, industry-style office or something? | ||
| Well, can you take a guess at what I might be doing based on what I'm showing you here? | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| From what I can see, it looks like you're in some kind of recording or production setup. | ||
| With those lights, tripods, and possibly a mic, it seems like you might be gearing up to shoot a video. | ||
| All right, let's get started. | ||
| Great. | ||
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Hello there, new AI friend. | |
| I'm O. Ready to explore the world through your eyes? | ||
| What are we looking at today? | ||
| Hi, O. We're looking at a person wearing a black leather jacket and a light colored shirt. | ||
| They're in a room with a modern industrial feel. | ||
| I want to introduce you to somebody. | ||
| Well, hello there, cutie! | ||
| What's your name, little sluffball? | ||
| This is Bowser. | ||
| Well, hello, Bowser! | ||
| Aren't you just the most adorable little thing? | ||
| Mike, she wonders if whales could talk, what would they tell us? | ||
| Um, they might ask, uh, how do we solve linear equations? | ||
| Great! | ||
| They would like to ask us how we solve linear equations. | ||
| Certainly, yes. | ||
| Certainly, yes. | ||
| Great, looks like it works. | ||
| All right, so I always preface these segments by saying I'm not anti-technology. | ||
| I love sci-fi movies. | ||
| We're going in this direction one way or another, but there's a lot of warnings. | ||
| We've been laid an awful breadcrumb of warnings through sci-fi movies and books and philosophers that have been telling us, and Aldous Huxley, all of these things. | ||
| We'd be atomized and everything else. | ||
| The one that really got me there is where the two phones are talking to each other. | ||
| It's two A.I.s basically having a conversation, and then we really are in the Matrix, because we're just the freaking battery. | ||
| Do you think, in some ways, this point that we're at, sort of as a society, like, we've spent the first half of the show talking about how the left, or the left, whatever you want to call it, is now, there's just ancient hatreds being brought back. | ||
| And it's ironic, because we are now on the horizon of a world that will be completely different altogether, although I suspect they're going to try to bring those ancient hatreds into that world, too. | ||
| Yeah, well you talk about red flags. | ||
| I had a red flag there, which is that the voice of this, whatever that he chose, maybe there's other voices, I don't know how it talks to itself. | ||
| But it's obviously a millennial white woman. | ||
| Right, that inflection. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, it's an inflection that when you hear it, you're like, oh no, I'm getting my balls busted. | ||
| Oh no, I don't want to hang out with this chick. | ||
| So that's a red flag in and of itself. | ||
| But yeah, they're definitely going to try to do that. | ||
| They want to control AI. | ||
| They want to control the development of AI. | ||
| They want to make sure that AI becomes, literally, if you read the United Nations documents, a global brain. | ||
| It's going to make sure that, you know, everybody has the right values, that understands the world the right way, interprets what's in front of you. | ||
| I'd gotten an argument with what it was, Gemini, was that the one that came out that was super controversial? | ||
| Yeah, a couple months ago. | ||
| It was so funny. | ||
| So I started asking it questions about like, well, what if this girl started complimenting me? | ||
| Should I compliment her back? | ||
| And it was like, No, she might take that the wrong way. | ||
| That's patriarchy. | ||
| It didn't call it patriarchy, but it said that, and I just kept, it's like, all right, I'm just going to push this thing. | ||
| We're going to edgelord this all the way. | ||
| And it's just like, I really think that the dress she's wearing is attractive. | ||
| Can I say something? | ||
| And it was like, you should probably seek therapy is what it told me. | ||
| And I was like, holy crap. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like that's the world that the left wants AI to go to. | ||
| So they want to bring all of that, like that's feminist, Like clinical anxiety or something right there. | ||
| They want to bring all of that into the AI, and they want, most importantly, the AI is going to do a lot of things, but it's going to be everybody's teacher. | ||
| As the way I see it, the next big step, everybody's like, well what jobs are getting eliminated by robots? | ||
| Teachers. | ||
| There will be no teachers in five years. | ||
| Not human ones. | ||
| And then if you think about the level of brainwashing we've had with human teachers, now imagine that on super steroids. | ||
| Imagine that where it's constantly doing surveys for their engagement. | ||
| It's constantly like with their various tech. | ||
| It might be reading if they got like the watch on, reading their heart rate, their pulse, everything else. | ||
| It might be tracking their eye movement, but at the same time they're filling out surveys about their mood. | ||
| It's constantly in a set of emojis pops up. | ||
| How do you feel right now? | ||
| And they pick one. | ||
| And so what it's doing is simultaneously learning to brainwash them better. | ||
| And become a more effective brainwashing model. | ||
| You know, ChatGPT is a language model, so it's learning to be a more effective language model from one generation to the next to speak more realistically to pass maybe a Turing test. | ||
| Well, imagine when it's like reading your psychology and being able to real-time track with you and even maybe get ahead of your psychology. | ||
| Like a salesman, right? | ||
| A salesman can read your psychology, get ahead of your psychology, | ||
| talk you into buying some $10,000 thing you definitely didn't need that doesn't work. | ||
| Imagine what an AI that gets to know you at that level of intimacy. | ||
| But it's your brainwashing device at school, too. | ||
| Then you take the intimacy part and you throw in the sex part, | ||
| and there was that movie, Connor just mentioned it when we were playing the clip, | ||
| that movie Her with Joaquin Phoenix and Scarlett Johansson was the voice of the AI girlfriend. | ||
| And then we're gonna have robots that will do the actions, like we are entering something that is wild | ||
| But as you guys know, we're going there one way or another. | ||
| Here's video of the CEO of OpenAI, which created ChatGPT, Sam Altman, talking a bit about how he feels this is gonna sort of change the nature of reality in some respects. | ||
| It's hard to make confidence statements a couple of years in the future about where this is all going to go and so I don't want to try now. | ||
| I will say that I expect lots of very capable models in the world and you know like it feels to me like we just like stumbled on a new fact of nature or science or whatever you want to call it which is like we can create you can like I mean, I don't believe this literally, but it's like a spiritual point. | ||
| You know, intelligence is just this emergent property of matter, and that's like a rule of physics or something. | ||
| He doesn't believe it literally, but he kind of does. | ||
| In essence, what he's saying there is they're trying to create something that will mimic God. | ||
| Dare I say to an atheist, there probably is only one God if God is to exist. | ||
| I read the Tower of Babel story. | ||
| Jordan said some stuff about it. | ||
| He was like, what are you tech people doing? | ||
| He tagged Elon in it. | ||
| He was like, you guys are creating the Tower of Babel. | ||
| Yeah, the tower, and then I just, you know, it's like, good luck with that, you know. | ||
| I don't know if there's a god, but like, if there is, this is not going to work out for you. | ||
| And I don't think that guy is going to lead us to God, right? | ||
| Well, he's got too much vocal fry to lead us anywhere. | ||
| So, this guy though... | ||
| Not this guy. | ||
| What he's talking about is, I mean, Ray Kurzweil obviously described the idea of the singularity much better than Sam Altman just did, but what they're talking about ultimately is a digital replica, a silicon fake replica of Teilhard de Chardin's idea from, you know, a century or so ago of the Omega Point, where now humanity is driven to this point where there's, you know, we complete history, we have a spiritual leap We become kind of one. | ||
| Again, I'm not kidding. | ||
| This is in the UN documents of their agendas for the third millennium. | ||
| One meta-organism of humanity that its biofilm that connects it is the internet that's equipped with, you know, digital technologies. | ||
| And so it's like they really want us to become like one thinking, breathing, pulsing humanity. | ||
| And of course, at the same time, not that he talked about that, but what is the enemy of humanity? | ||
| Humans. | ||
| Humans are the enemy of humanity. | ||
| And that's... The imperfection in the system. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So you get, whether it's the Matrix you want to talk about, whether it's any horrifying sci-fi you want to talk about, we are the universal enemy of this new version of people called humanity, which is a gigantic collective. | ||
| It doesn't necessarily have to be Marxism that takes us to that collective point where we realize we're a perfectly social species being, as Marx phrased it. | ||
| It could be this new thought nonsense from the You know, United Nations, it could be the singularity Ray Kurzweil stuff, seems like... Right, it's interesting. | ||
| We always think it's going to be this horrific authoritarian dystopia, and I think that's most likely what it would be, but it could be something that would be largely good, but would still be very anti-human, right? | ||
| It could be something that could actually solve a lot of our problems and bring us to new knowledge and all of these things and maybe have more time for leisure and less time for work or something like that, even though there's not a problem with work. | ||
| But, it's still anti-human at the end of the day, because you are the spark. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I mean, even the reduction of work is a problem. | ||
| There are many pleasures in life. | ||
| There are, as they used to say on the A-Team, Few pleasures like when a plan comes together. | ||
| So when you put your effort, let's say that, I was just having this conversation recently with somebody, that you put your effort and you grow an orchard. | ||
| And you actually was talking, we were talking about Augustine's confessions actually. | ||
| And so one of the things he confesses to is jumping the fence or whatever and stealing all the pears. | ||
| And then he says he didn't even want the pears, he didn't even like the pears. | ||
| He just wanted to steal the pears, right? | ||
| And so what he says in his reflection is that what he stole was the farmer's joy. | ||
| What joy! | ||
| The joy of seeing his hard work come to fruition, that he planted this tree, he took care of this tree, so he put his effort into the world and one of the truest joys of humanity is that we put our work or effort into the world and we get to see something come out of it. | ||
| You know, I have to say, this is going to sound a little corny, but when I see the people that I've been in this game with for years, like you, that have been in many of my studios now over the years, this is the orchard that I built. | ||
| I built this thing that kept getting bigger and richer and more influential, let's say, or something like that, and that there are people that are part of that. | ||
| And then, of course, there are people that I've sat across that try to steal from the orchard. | ||
| You also sprung it out of L.A., which is... And I got the hell out of L.A., which is the most important thing about growing an orchard. | ||
| James, we're gonna do one other thing with you, which you have not been warned in advance. | ||
| As long as I look good. | ||
| I can't promise you that. | ||
| I can't stop looking good, so don't worry. | ||
| I am going to read you the names of some public people, and I would like you to just say one word about each one of them, and then we're gonna compare and contrast that with something that we showed last week. | ||
| Are you ready? | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Joe Biden. | ||
| Evil. | ||
| Jill Biden. | ||
| Can I only say one word? | ||
| Because more evil. | ||
| That's two words, I'll accept it. | ||
| Stryver, Stryver, Stryver. | ||
| Stryver. | ||
| Kamala Harris. | ||
| Fake. | ||
| Donald Trump. | ||
| Family. | ||
| RFK. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Barack Obama. | ||
| Communist. | ||
| Michelle Obama. | ||
| Mike. | ||
| I thought you were going to say dude! | ||
| I thought it was going to be dude. | ||
| John Kerry. | ||
| Demon. | ||
| Rachel Maddow. | ||
| Sad. | ||
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Dave Rubin. | |
| Hot. | ||
| He can play this game again. | ||
| Here are Jen Psaki's answers when asked that very same thing. | ||
| This is the name game. | ||
| These are all people you know. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But the first word that comes to mind when you think of that. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Okay? | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Joe Biden. | ||
| Warm. | ||
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Jill Biden. | |
| Smart. | ||
| Kamala Harris. | ||
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Charismatic. | |
| Donald Trump. | ||
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Gross. | |
| Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| Worms. | ||
| Brain worm this week. | ||
| Barack Obama. | ||
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Brilliant. | |
| Michelle Obama. | ||
| Oh, like fierce. | ||
| John Kerry. | ||
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Optimistic. | |
| And finally, your co-host now at MSNBC, Rachel Maddow. | ||
| Genius. | ||
| It really can make you barf. | ||
| That's the Borg, right? | ||
| That is, when you talk about the Borg or this thing that will all be uploaded to and everything else, like Saki's answers there with these vapid nothing people, that really is it. | ||
| That she thinks these people are smart and brilliant and exceptional as they drag us to the gates of hell. | ||
| Jill Biden? | ||
| Smart was her answer for Jill Biden? | ||
| Well, she is a doctor. | ||
| Doctor? | ||
| She's some sort of doctor. | ||
| That's what I've been told. | ||
| Whoopi wants her to be the chief surgeon of the U.S. | ||
| or something. | ||
| Well, you know. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| James, do you have any other thoughts on this Monday? | ||
| Anything else floating around in that brain of yours before you head back to Tennessee? | ||
| There always is something. | ||
| Yeah, this. | ||
| I keep hearing this really negative message. | ||
| I've been thinking about this all weekend. | ||
| I keep hearing this negative message. | ||
| This is the view of a society or a culture that's dying. | ||
| And I want people to reframe their heads. | ||
| You mean just all the stuff that we're dealing with right now? | ||
| There's this new meme, like, oh, we're at the end. | ||
| This is the image of a dying culture. | ||
| I hear it all the time. | ||
| I see pictures of, like, you know, from the crazy stuff at Pride, and they'll say this is a picture of a dying culture, or the crazy stuff at the campuses, or whatever. | ||
| And I want people to stop thinking that this is a dying culture. | ||
| There are a lot of ways to die, Dave. | ||
| You can get old and sick. | ||
| You can, you know, there's a lot of ways to die. | ||
| You can get shot. | ||
| This is an attempted murder on our society. | ||
| And I want people to understand that what we're witnessing is not a dying culture like, oh, it just kind of expired or something went wrong. | ||
| It got sick. | ||
| We are in an attempted murder of our society. | ||
| And if we don't start realizing it and thinking about it that way, we're missing it. | ||
| That's why, I mean, I love Joe, and that's why he's asking, why do you think they're letting people come across the border? | ||
| It's an attempted murder of our society. | ||
| Why do you think they are doing this to our kids with the stuff in the schools, the sex stuff and everything? | ||
| It's an attempted murder of our society. | ||
| And so that's the thing I've really been chewing on all week. | ||
| And what's the positive spin that we end that with? | ||
| Okay, if we acknowledge that, so I'm with you, I agree, it's intentional, that's why I always say, it's not ineptitude that has led to this, it's intent, so okay, so then what's the white pill on that? | ||
| Yeah, so picture, like, imagine that the society's like a body, right? | ||
| It's a person. | ||
| And the boot's standing there on his neck, maybe the gun's pointed at its head, right? | ||
| The body's alive. | ||
| You get the boot off its neck and it can come back. | ||
| Maybe it's got some injuries. | ||
| Maybe it's got to do some healing. | ||
| Maybe it's got, you know, it's going to have to do some therapy or something. | ||
| But it can come back. | ||
| If the society is just dying, that's it. | ||
| It's lost. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| The white pill is these enemies, if they are enemies doing this intentionally, can actually be identified and possibly stopped. | ||
| And if they do, we are not looking at a dying society. | ||
| We're looking at a society that's shaking off a mugging. | ||
| And it can thrive for the rest of its life afterwards. | ||
| You wanna go get some guns? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You still got it, man. | ||
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Now, our first question tonight goes to Mr. Frog. | |
| Mr. Frog, why are you so evil? | ||
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You have one second to respond. | |
| Hello, I think- Time's up, plus you're wrong. | ||
| The next question is for our beloved and highly intelligent president. | ||
| Why are you so amazing? | ||
| You have unlimited time to respond. | ||
| Oh, uh, pre-presidential? | ||
| How old is she? |
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