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dave rubin
All that's good stuff, those meme makers.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday, which means you might think it's time for a Friday Roundtable extravaganza, except I'm doing something a little bit different today.
I am having one guest, my co-host for the first time today, Erin Wexler, known as nonlibtake on the Instagram and the TikTok.
Erin, how are you?
arynne wexler
Dave, I'm great, and it's fun.
I'm here without having to buy you dinner, so it's a treat for me and a great way to close out the week.
dave rubin
You know what?
If you nail this thing without falling out of your chair, I will buy you dinner.
What do you think of that?
That's perfect.
You had quite a week before we get into anything else.
We're going to recap, obviously, the week in racism and dead murderers and some of the other things that happened.
But you had quite a week because some of your videos, which have been really hot online, were getting stolen by some rather influential creators and you're fighting back and making a little name for yourself out there on the internet.
arynne wexler
Yeah, you know, I thought it was time to speak up about some of that theft that you just mentioned.
So I, uh, did privately reach out to somebody who was directly lifting my content, definitely breaching copyright law, um, and doing that with a lot of other creators.
And so I saw my videos that were being used to look like this man was actually the one producing the videos.
And I found out because friends of mine were sending me links thinking that exposure is a good thing.
Uh, for people who don't know when you're a content creator, the way you really get paid is by monetizing on YouTube, monetizing on Instagram and other places.
And the algorithms really favor people, uh, when you're the original poster.
So when someone takes your video from one platform like mine on Instagram, and then they decide to post it somewhere like YouTube before you do, they're going to get all the money from that.
Uh, and so, you know, I don't get to pay my landlord and exposure.
And so I decided to reach out to the person who was posting this and it's far from the first time they've done this to me.
They've done this to many other people.
And so I reached out privately hoping to resolve it there, and I just asked them to delete
the video and to not use my videos in that manner.
They refused to take it down, and they offered to just tag me in the video many hours later.
And anyone who has any sense of how social media works understands that you're not going to get followers from someone adding a tag to a video hours after it's already kind of hit that that peak visibility and peak momentum.
And so I said, no, please take it down.
And they refused.
And so I decided to go to the public square.
That is Twitter.
And people reacted well to it.
And eventually it was taken down.
I was told they would never use My videos again, but, but to me, that's, that's the battle, not the war.
And I think what's really important for people in the space.
And, and I know Dave, that, you know, this, cause you always, you've always tagged me and anybody else that you reference, whether it's a tweet or a video.
Um, but this is a, it's a new frontier, I think for social media and for reporting where a lot of people are producing content and then it just gets lifted and shared without any, uh, you know, credit to the original creator.
And I'm hoping that what happened this week will really change the conversation and change the practices across the industry.
dave rubin
On that note, where can people find you?
I normally do this at the end, but we've played a couple of your videos, and yeah, I have no problem crediting you because you're doing good stuff, which is why you're on the show today!
But where can the people find you?
And you know what?
We'll put a link in the description.
arynne wexler
Can someone do that?
I appreciate that.
dave rubin
Do we have someone on a computer here?
unidentified
Okay.
arynne wexler
I appreciate that.
People could find me on Instagram at nonlibtake.
You could also find me on YouTube at Aaron Wexler.
I know those are different handles, I'm sure.
dave rubin
Yeah, we gotta fix that.
arynne wexler
In case anyone is not clear, I don't have a marketing team working for me.
dave rubin
You're a little new to the game.
We'll fix all that.
Don't worry about that stuff.
One last thing before we get to it.
You said you can't pay your landlord in exposure, but I'm pretty sure you probably could.
arynne wexler
Uh, no, I definitely, uh, cannot.
Uh, my landlord definitely, although they did get a taste of, uh, my politics fairly recently.
Uh, I had to move out for a couple of days for, uh, them to fix something in the apartment and they moved a bunch of boxes around.
And my landlord did come to me a few days later saying, we think this box is yours.
And it was a box of a thousand rounds of ammo.
They were so shocked.
And, uh, they're not from the United States.
They're a foreign, uh, international landlord and, uh, And I said, welcome to America.
So they got a little flavor of me.
dave rubin
And you are now on a list.
All right, let's dive in.
This is a Rubin Report episode with a co-host for the first time, but we can't jump that too far from what we normally do.
So yes, we've got a clip from The View and Whoopi Goldberg has lost her fricking mind.
whoopi goldberg
Take a look at the things that they're rolling back.
Remember I said ages ago, you know, In their minds, they want to bring slavery back.
They're okay with it.
Because, you see, things change.
You know, one of the good things about the Supreme Court is you can fight to make sure you make stuff better.
You don't generally fight to make stuff worse.
Or to roll back.
Or to roll back.
And to me, if you're okay rolling that back, when things were not even a state, when we had no say, So, how's that gonna roll?
How's that gonna roll?
What's the next thing?
Because you know, on this, with all of this comes birth control.
unidentified
[Pause]
dave rubin
These days, but I have yet to have been to a conservative event where I heard anyone talking about bringing back
slavery.
Now, you're more of a conservative.
Is there something I'm missing here?
Are there other meetings?
What's happening here?
arynne wexler
Oh, Dave, you just haven't been invited to the right meetings, actually.
You know, this was something that the left was warning about.
Remember, if you vote for Mitt Romney, he's going to put black people back in in chains that, you know, if you're not if you don't vote for Biden, you ain't black.
I mean, it's like the same thing.
What's her real name again?
It's Karen Walker, if I'm not mistaken?
Is it Karen Walker?
It's Karen something.
I think it's Karen Walker.
She became Whoopi Goldberg.
to talk about things when she is a master criminal of cultural appropriation herself with the last name
Goldberg, so I would like to take that back with my last name being Wexler.
dave rubin
What's her real name again?
It's Karen Walker, if I'm not mistaken.
Is it Karen Walker?
It's Karen something.
I think it's Karen Walker.
She became Whoopi Goldberg.
It's not Goldberg.
arynne wexler
It's definitely not Goldberg.
dave rubin
I will say there are many- Sorry, it's Karen Johnson, not Karen Walker.
arynne wexler
Johnson.
There we go.
I will say for the audience, though there are plenty of black Jews, just Whoopi Goldberg's not one of them, and she decided to take on a Jewish last name for herself.
But yeah, no, it's really astounding.
And this goes into the whole narrative of what the left is playing out of,
black people have to think a certain way, they have to vote a certain way, they have to be fearful.
And it's not only Whoopi Goldberg saying this, right?
Like there are plenty of just white, woke social justice warriors deciding
that this is a moment to fear monger and tell people this.
And I had the great displeasure last night of watching the movie "Civil War," which is coming out
unidentified
today.
Oh, yeah.
arynne wexler
Yeah.
And that movie, I mean, what Whoopi Goldberg is playing into is exactly what that movie is playing into, which is just all the things that are supposed to happen if a conservative is in the White House.
Right.
So it's black people being in chains again.
It's total destitution and destruction.
It's like total lack of a rule of law or like just, you know, dictatorship taking over if You know, orange man bad is back in the White House.
And so, yeah, I mean, I don't know who's dumb enough to actually believe that this is true.
And in fact, someone like Whoopi Goldberg would probably be fine if they took every single conservative in the country and made us slaves.
I think they would be fine with that.
So it's definitely a double standard with her.
I honestly, the view is I have no idea how they're still around.
And I get infinitely dumber every time I hear.
dave rubin
I know.
It's the great challenge as a host on the internet.
What do I do with The View?
Do I keep bludgeoning people with these clips of these brainlets, or do we just let it go?
And it's a debate we have here constantly.
I'm not exactly sure.
But you mentioned a certain Orange Man.
He's back in business, baby.
And he went to Chick-fil-A.
And I forget, is Chick-fil-A racist or are they homophobic or something?
But here he is just having a good time.
This is a bit of a throwaway.
I just kind of enjoyed it.
Take a look.
unidentified
I'm going to weigh you home.
dave rubin
They like each other, right?
unidentified
I think that's very nice.
dave rubin
Have a good time.
unidentified
Nice to see you.
Thank you very much.
We're going to load 30 milkshakes.
We'll give them out to the people, and we'll take some for ourselves, okay?
Thank you very much, everybody.
Hello.
This has got a great American franchise to it.
It is.
It's a great franchise.
The owner is a great man who's a member of one of my clubs, and he's fantastic.
And yeah, they do very well.
They're closed on Sunday.
The Lord's Chicken.
That's the Lord's Chicken.
You're right.
It's good chicken, too.
Good to see you.
Thank you very much.
Come on in.
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dave rubin
We're going to get rid of Biden.
[cheering]
unidentified
Biden is the worst president in the history of the United States,
and he's horrible to the black community.
Like it or not, he treats the black community badly.
dave rubin
And check out his record in the 1990s.
unidentified
Check out his record in the 1990s.
dave rubin
Look, it's just standard Trump stuff.
First off, was his tie particularly long, like almost to his knees in that one?
Someone's got to talk to him about the tie.
But just like walking in there, he can immediately connect with these people.
As far as I could tell, he didn't want to turn any of them into slaves.
I mean, he was taking selfies with them, for God's sakes.
It's like he...
had lowest all-time black unemployment at that State of the Union speech at the Congressional Black Caucus.
unidentified
They sat there like this when he said that.
dave rubin
I'm starting to think that orange man may not be racist.
What do you think?
arynne wexler
No, I mean, Trump is so good.
I don't know how you watch a clip like that, and you just can't stop yourself from smiling and laughing.
He's just so funny, and he's so natural.
And I remember being a kid in New York, and Trump was in rap songs.
People loved him, right?
He's generally been loved by the black community, also by the gay community, right?
This is a part of who he is.
He is really a man of the people, and Joe Biden is not.
Trump is way more in touch with the average person.
And the Democrats today are the same as Democrats of the past.
They only like black people if they do exactly as they're told.
And so Donald Trump's conservatives are saying, listen, we know that people donated someone with a PhD to tell them inflation isn't as bad as you think it is, right?
People understand their wallets.
They understand their purchasing power now.
They understand how different life is now than it was under President Trump.
And they want him back.
And they want a normal person who talks to them with respect.
and integrity and treats them like they know what's going on.
And you and I both know being in social media, seeing the comments we get in our videos,
people are not as dumb as they're treated by this White House.
People know what's going on, they're not stupid, and they're tired of being spoken to like they are.
And so that plays definitely into the Black vote, the Hispanic vote, right?
People love Trump.
It's exciting to see.
And also I do love Chick-fil-A.
It is God's chicken.
So I'll just throw that out there.
dave rubin
I love how the guy's like, "It's God's chicken."
And he's like, yes, yes, it's God's chicken.
He just has that.
He's just present enough.
It's all sort of ridiculous, but also true and silly.
And that's the whole freaking thing.
But here is a black woman who is, well, the consequence, I would say, of diversity hiring.
She's the vice president and she's freaking out because the orange man might come back.
unidentified
Right now, Donald Trump is telling us that he wants to be a dictator.
And if we've learned one thing about this man, believe him.
Believe how crazy he is because he telegraphs it.
That's exactly right.
He tells you.
There's no hoodwinking.
He tells you over and over again and on True Social at 3 a.m.
and Cap Locks and then the next morning on Newsmax.
There is literally no whisper.
There is no dog whistle.
It is like a gigantic I don't think it's hyperbolic to say this genuinely could be the last democratic election we ever have.
You're right.
Listen to what he says.
He's telling you dictators aren't a dictator for one day and then it's let the people decide.
dave rubin
Aaron, help me out here again.
I'm a simple man.
Would it be worse to just say kind of over-the-top things about how you want to retain power, or would it be worse to use all of the levers of power to make sure that other candidates couldn't get on the ballot and were hung up in court on ridiculous cases that had nothing to do with nothing, where there were no victims, maybe be hung up in court because somebody claimed to have been raped by you, but you actually didn't get Indicted on rape but on defamation, which I think if someone calls you a rapist and you're not a rapist You should be able to sue them.
I think you see where I'm going with this.
arynne wexler
I do I actually just think though you're missing the biggest point in this video, which is Kamala Harris It actually wasn't quite the word salad We usually get from her and I tend to get my daily vegetable dose from listening to a Kamala Harris clip So that was pretty impressive.
She didn't talk about Venn diagrams or school buses but to your point on what they're saying in that clip is It's pretty amazing.
And again, it actually reminds me of that movie.
I saw Civil War last night and I keep saying this do not see it Do not give them your money.
It was it's just exactly what you expect from Hollywood But and I can't believe I had to sit through that.
dave rubin
Yeah, why did you see it?
Why did you see it then a cultural critic like yourself?
arynne wexler
I wanted to be able to speak to it since I was called out by our friend Buck Sexton for not seeing the Barbie movie in order to opine on it.
So I thought I would I thought I would do research on what, and also the movie was actually under two hours, so I thought, ah, if it's so painful, I'll get out.
I talked the whole time.
I talked the entire movie because I couldn't handle it.
But what they're doing in that movie is also what Kamala Harris and the left, they always do, right?
They always project actually exactly what they're doing onto the right.
So it's always about, and they do this in the movie as well.
saying he's gonna abuse his powers, he's gonna abuse the different systems that we have,
abuse the courts.
This is exactly what the left is doing.
And so it's like, I really just don't know what to say except the fear mongering is just so far gone.
I think people understand and they see what's happening, and I know we're going to end up talking about what's happening in Brazil, and I think that's a really prime example of exactly how the left is just absolutely abusing all the different systems.
We can only hope that Donald Trump becomes president again and disbands All these different systems that we're talking about that they are abusing themselves.
So yes, no, I think the left, they like to go through stages of this isn't happening.
And then it's this is happening, but here's why it's actually a good thing.
And so that's exactly what they're talking about on that show.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
Well, actually, since you brought up Brazil and since you mentioned abuse of courts, we've got a good segue because there is some crazy stuff coming out of Brazil that involves X or Twitter.
We've got a tweet here from Colin Rugg.
Brazil is moving to regulate X after Elon Musk refused to comply with their anti-free speech demands.
Brazil Attorney General Jorge Macias is lashing out after Musk refused to bend the knee.
We cannot live in a society in which billionaires domiciled abroad have control of social networks and put themselves in a position to violate the rule of law, failing to comply with court orders and threatening our authorities.
It's urgent to regulate social networks.
and then Colin adds, old Twitter would have bent the knee.
So Twitter under Elon is basically just allowing the same free speech that they're allowing
here in the United States in Brazil, and the new leader of Brazil, the socialist Lulu,
is not happy about it.
Here's Elon responding to what's going on.
elon musk
I think, I mean, the people of Brazil ought to know that there is an abuse of judicial power
to an extreme degree that we've not seen in any country on earth.
I have never seen anything of this magnitude.
Um...
So, it's insane.
And the elected representatives of the people of Brazil, that's who should be in charge.
And the judiciary is there to execute upon the law, but not to make the law.
But they are making the law.
And I think it's an outrage.
People should be extremely upset.
So, like, this has got to stop.
They have threatened to cut off X entirely from Brazil.
They also threatened to arrest our employees.
And they have applied a $20,000 a day fine.
This is just what the threats that have been made.
I don't know if these threats will come to pass or not.
Um, but judging by what has happened to others, uh, I think these, these are, these threats are real.
I don't know.
I think, I think this is like really, uh, judicial authority going, going far beyond judicial authority to, to executive authority.
Um, so that, that's, that's, you know, I just think it's just totally, absolutely improper.
I mean, the law is violating the law.
It's crazy.
dave rubin
I just want to add in one other tweet that Elon sent out, the severity of censorship and the degree to which Brazil's own laws are being broken to the detriment of their own people is the worst any country in the world in which this platform operates.
Aaron, the reason I think this story is important, I mean, it's important because we should stop censorship wherever it is, but it seems fairly obvious to me what's happening in Brazil is the test run for I actually think that's not even as bad as what's happening.
I think it's not only a test run.
I think this is our government.
I think this is the Biden administration going after Elon through a proxy.
And so we know the left doesn't even try to hide this.
whatever the state wants them to do.
Am I crazy?
arynne wexler
I actually think that's not even as bad as what's happening.
I think it's not only a test run.
I think this is our government.
I think this is the Biden administration going after Elon through a proxy.
And so we know, the left doesn't even try to hide this.
There are articles online talking about how, you know, the CIA helped prevent a coup from Bolsonaro.
Bolsonaro, for people who might not be familiar, is like the tropical Trump, right?
This is a guy, the story of Brazil is very close to what we're dealing with here.
And, uh, and what, luckily for us, our.
Our courts.
Our Supreme Court, I should say.
Not our courts, because obviously our courts are actually packed with George Soros-appointed DAs, and that's a really big problem, and my goal in life is to make so much money to be the antithesis Soros and stick DAs anywhere that I can to undo all his harm.
dave rubin
Man, you gotta monetize some of your videos if you want Soros cash.
arynne wexler
Thank God after this week I'm a step closer to that.
But at least we do have a Supreme Court.
What's happening in Brazil is their court, just like Elon said, our Supreme Court receives and then rules on cases that they receive.
what Brazil can actually just go after people. The Brazil court, they actually say,
go and arrest this person. They've actually made calls to just proactively go after people,
which is not something that people in the US are as familiar with, although we're seeing that with
in a number of cases, including the woman who has had Ashley Biden's journal, which we'll talk about
later. But, you know, so in Brazil, the court is being used sort of as a mix between judicial and
executive, and not just executive, like authoritative, dictatorial, kind of really crazy power grabbing.
And we know that the CIA stopped Bolsonaro, prevented a coup, really just, you know, What's happening over there is similar to what's happening here with just total election rigging and election fraud.
And they made it that Bolsonaro couldn't run.
And Lula is basically a CIA-appointed Biden front in Brazil, acting out exactly as the Biden administration wants.
And so they can't go after Elon here in the same way just yet.
And so they're trying to go after him in Brazil.
And not only that, but the State Department's role in places abroad is to prevent those other countries
from interfering with American companies.
So it's not only that the State Department is not stepping in when this is happening to Twitter,
X, an American company, but they're actually very likely encouraging it
and facilitating it behind the scenes.
So people should really be paying attention to this.
dave rubin
By the way, I should note, everyone knows I'm part owner of Rumble, obviously,
the Brazilian courts went after Rumble and demanded that we take down a whole bunch of content
and we refused and we're no longer online That's our protest.
Elon's obviously protesting in his own way.
But as you were saying that, I was thinking, Elon bought this thing for, I think it was $46 billion. $44.
44, it was way overvalued, meaning way more than the shares were worth, so everyone that owned shares got a premium on that.
He's put himself right in the middle of the fight.
All of these people that used to love him for being Mr. Green Energy and Tesla and everything else now seem to hate him.
The machine's constantly going after him.
They're going after his businesses and incorporations in Delaware and all of those things.
He's had to move Tesla out of Cali, which is now in Austin.
It was making me think, do you think he realized how insane this all was gonna be?
'Cause I think he sort of bought Twitter like for fun in a weird way at first,
and then it very quickly became something much, much more important.
arynne wexler
You know, I think it'd be impossible to ever try to be inside Elon Musk's head.
But if I were to try, I think that he deeply cares about free speech.
And you know, you see this and the fact that I like love this.
I don't want to say Genghis Khan because it's not violent and like non consensual in that way.
But like the man wants to populate the earth with all his children.
I really support it.
Like, I love how many kids he has.
You know, it's like not traditional.
It's not my style.
But, you know, I love that he's trying to repopulate the earth.
He loves civilization.
He's really against the nihilists on the left that we're dealing with today.
And so I think that he saw it was kind of like a joke.
He's like a meme lord guy.
And, you know, I thought it was definitely partly funny, but I think he also understood that this was also very, very necessary.
What's pretty interesting also that a lot of people might not know about is this summer we're supposed to get a number of really important rulings from the Supreme Court on First
Amendment issues, especially around people's lawsuits against Twitter from
pre-Elon days.
And the poor guy, he just can't, like, can never catch a break.
But, you know, it's suing Twitter today, which is what Elon has.
And we know that Elon's very pro-First Amendment, but he's the one who has to deal with the consequences of
unidentified
this.
arynne wexler
But I think that's exactly why he took it over to correct this.
I'm seeing, you know, we see that people are being brought back to Twitter when they had been perma banned in the past, whether it was about the vaccine or the election or anything that you could have said, whether it was your Jordan Peterson tweeting about, you know, Ellen Page.
I refuse to say Elliot Page.
But, you know, so we're going to get a lot of really interesting court cases also this summer.
specifically related to free speech around Twitter, and that's going to set
really important precedent. But you know, I think Elon did not realize how
bad things would be, and I think Elon, like many other people who are moderates,
maybe libertarians, weren't necessarily leaning to the right.
He's been all over the place politically, and I think they get pretty
radicalized and hardened.
Radicalized to the positive, though, like a really good, just, you know, more passionate about what's happening on the left.
And I actually think, I just came back from New York City for yet another trip to the belly of the beach.
dave rubin
Sweet Jesus, are you all right?
arynne wexler
And I know, thank you.
Thoughts and prayers.
They worked.
I made it back.
I wasn't stabbed or shoved in front of a subway.
But I will say, I was with a lot of friends there.
And I have all these friends who are lifelong Democrats who are saying, I can't vote for Joe Biden right now.
I don't understand this party.
These are normal liberals.
dave rubin
But are they willing to vote for Trump, right?
That's the thing.
I get a lot of them are breaking, but will they make the move?
arynne wexler
I think a lot of them might go RFK, like the way a lot of people do, but I think some of them might actually go for Trump.
My heart's been broken too many times as a conservative woman to actually think that Trump could win a state like New York, but it's starting to feel like people are really seeing how crazy this is, and especially if you're a normal person and you're not a transgender midget getting the world's first abortion in Sahara or something.
You know, they go after you and you're not a protected class anymore.
Like if you're just a white gay man, you're no longer special, right?
Even if you're black, you're not special necessarily, especially if you're conservative, we don't follow the narrative.
So yeah, I think people are really tired of getting their heads banged in and Elon, thank God for Elon Musk, really.
dave rubin
Just to be clear, if we were looking at the hierarchy here of the oppression Olympics, you're saying trans gay midget would be here, regular gay guy here?
arynne wexler
Trans gay midget, but they probably would be like gender fluid furry, right?
unidentified
You'd have to provide a lot of accoutrement for them to have a good day.
dave rubin
Do you save money on the costume because it's smaller?
arynne wexler
I think they have to be specially made, so it's probably more expensive actually, yeah.
dave rubin
True.
It's a special order.
That's a good point.
I don't know exactly how to segue from that to OJ.
Can you help me get there somehow?
Something... OJ was an athlete and in sports they often have the mascots who are furries.
I think that's where the furry thing came from.
We're kind of getting there?
arynne wexler
Yeah, we're getting there.
dave rubin
But the point is, guys, O.J.
Simpson's dead.
He died.
He's dead.
Everyone knows he died yesterday, 76, of cancer.
I didn't know he had cancer.
I think a lot of people, this was kind of surprising.
We've got a tweet from his Twitter account.
This is from one of the children.
On April 10th, our father, Orenthal James Simpson, succumbed to his battle with cancer.
He was surrounded by his children and grandchildren.
During this time of transition, his family asks "that you please respect their wishes for privacy
"and grace the Simpson family."
Oh, time of transition.
So that sort of made the segue work, right?
Something, something.
arynne wexler
It could have worked, yes, yeah.
dave rubin
So we got a couple of clips I wanna show you here because I really do think that so much of the craziness
as it pertains to race and cable news and polarization, so much of it was birthed during the OJC.
Simpson trial.
I was a freshman in college for most of it.
And you could see how it was all bubbling up to lead us to the crazy place we're at right now.
So, first, I want to show you a clip of this famous interview with O.J.
This is absolutely wild.
Take a look at this.
unidentified
If you promise that you will not ask me another question about the case... I will never ask you again.
We won't have to talk about it anymore.
Just, did you do it?
No, I didn't.
Nope.
Did not do it.
After we finished filming, O.J.
said to me that he had a surprise for me, and I genuinely was surprised.
I think it was his idea of a joke.
And this is it.
dave rubin
[squeaking]
unidentified
[silence]
dave rubin
[laughing]
I think he did it.
I think he might have did it.
arynne wexler
I mean, this is the man who had a book that basically was like, I didn't do it, but if I did it, this is exactly how I would have done it, right?
That's OJ.
And I think that when they named him Orenthal James and nicknamed him OJ, it was, you know, they were predicting the fact that he'd be beating women to a pulp, right?
So that's probably where the name came from.
I actually just thought of that.
That was a missed opportunity on Twitter yesterday.
dave rubin
Yeah, that's good.
unidentified
Yeah.
arynne wexler
Thank you.
In case anyone is not familiar with pulp orange juice.
Thank you to really drive it home.
But no, I mean, this is so crazy.
Yeah, I mean, the fact that the White House, I don't know if you saw this, but Corrine Jean-Pierre, in one of her better moments, because she wasn't tongue-tied, she actually was able to give a response.
It was just a horrible one when someone in the press pit asked her, you know, what does Joe Biden, what does the president, what does the White House have to say about OJ's death?
It was, we respect his family's wishes during this time.
No, I hope that guy rots in hell.
He got off easy.
He had a long life.
He went to prison for stealing memorabilia in Vegas and thank God the judge decided to give him a pretty harsh sentence that was possibly not related to the theft from that crime But you know, this is a man who killed not just the mother of his children But also Ron Goldman who was there returning glasses to Nicole and and the world just let him get away with it Just like they let some people like, you know content creators who steal other people's stuff people get away with with all kinds of crimes and
Interesting little side note.
So yeah, we could go into for sure how people have responded to this, including many people
saying, well, it's justice for black people.
That's OJ got off, right?
dave rubin
We'll get to that in one second.
Interesting little side note.
I once saw Cato Kaelin, who lived in OJ's, or he lived in, I guess it was her, it was
It was her guest house, right?
That's how he was there, Kato.
He was the actor, like the pothead actor.
I once saw Kato Kaelin on the Harry Potter ride at Universal Studios in Burbank.
So that's a little, you know, people can do with that what they want.
But you talk about the reaction, and we saw this this morning.
This is absolutely wild.
It's going viral right now.
This is Oprah on her show.
They showed the reaction live, and they're gonna show you the audience reaction to this.
In 1995.
This is incredible.
Take a look.
unidentified
Case number BA097211.
7 to 1 1. We the jury in the above entitled action find the defendant or
oranthology. Simpson not guilty of the crime of murder in violation of
penal court section 1 87 a felony upon Nicole Brown. A human being.
As far as you count one of the information Superior Court of the state of California County of Los
Angeles in the matter of the people of state of California versus oranthology.
Simpson.
dave rubin
We the jury in the. I'm telling you when I say that that moment
and that trial the year before that was like one of the things that
led us to this crazy racial polarized cable news. Thing that we
are in right now I think that's an obvious example of it right
I mean, there was no sane person back then that thought he didn't do it.
Everyone knew he did it.
The prosecution, by the way, was sloppy and there was that whole thing with Mark Furman and a whole bunch of other stupid things that happened.
But nobody debated.
But the fact that those women were up there jumping up and down, cheering, knowing, knowing in their heart that he did it.
There is a through line to where we're at today, isn't there?
arynne wexler
Yeah, but I do like the memes going around saying OJ's in heaven asking God, like, who was the real killer?
You know, it's like, yeah, like we all, everyone knew that it was OJ and he really didn't make it much of a secret, right?
So he just never said the words, I did it.
He would say, I didn't do it.
I mean, give that little cheeky smile.
And I don't know what's worse.
Would it be better if we thought that people really believed he didn't do it?
Because I don't think that's the case.
I don't think it's that people think OJ was innocent.
It's that people know that he did it, that he slaughtered two people.
And by the way, there was actually a tweet from a woman, Nicole, I don't know how to
pronounce her last name, Manette, Manet, it might be French.
But she actually came out on Twitter yesterday also talking about how she was forced to sign,
not forced, but she was young and told to sign an NDA where she witnessed Robert Kardashian
and Bob Shapiro going into the USC athlete's office to get people to, to actually pay people
off to not report on the fact that he actually was beating the.
I don't know what I'm allowed to say on here, beating other women to a pulp, you know, many
times.
And he had a history of this and people had to sign NDAs that they wouldn't talk about
this in court as well.
And this is a man who got away with things and everybody knows this and they still were
happy that he was acquitted.
And the idea was that, and I've spoken with friends about this and they said, well, it's
good, you know, liberal friends.
They say it was good because it was justice for the black community.
And that's not justice.
And this is not how conservatives think.
This is not how black conservatives think.
Justice is when the law works.
It's when rich white people go to jail for doing something wrong and rich black people go to jail
for doing something wrong, right?
And so this is definitely not justice.
And it lacks intellectual honesty and integrity to say that this is what justice is.
dave rubin
Right, so to be clear, the argument perhaps that some of those women who were cheering there
would be making is, oh, white people, it's not that they thought he was innocent,
as you pointed out.
It would be something like, oh, well, some rich white people get away with murder.
So we're getting one now too.
But that is such a freaking dangerous, slippery slope.
But you sort of referenced some of the reaction to some of this.
So I wanna show you the CNN contributor talking about how the black.
Community felt connected to O.J.
and it gets a little haywire here.
Watch this.
unidentified
But it was so racially charged because of what had happened just before with Rodney King, but also just how black Americans feel about policing.
It's not like O.J.
Simpson was the leader of the civil rights movement of his era.
You know, he wasn't a social justice leader.
But he represented something for the black community in that moment, in that trial, particularly because there were two white people who had been killed.
And the history around how black people have been persecuted during slavery, there were just so many layers.
And I guess I would just close with this, is that There was racial tension then, there is racial tension now.
It might not be the backdrop of the Trump campaign, but until this country is ready to actually have an honest conversation about the racial dynamics from our origin story till today, we will always have moments like O.J.
Simpson that manifest, and our country will always be divided if we don't actually deal with the issue of race.
dave rubin
Wow.
So she basically said a certain set of people were kind of digging it, that it was two white people that were killed, and these are the people that have dragged racism out of the dredges of the ocean to now be mainstream the entire time.
It does make you feel better, though, that it was a couple white people, right?
Because if he had killed black people, I mean, that's what happens in Chicago and nobody cares.
We'd never have heard of this thing.
arynne wexler
Oh yeah.
Well, I don't know if your audience could see us.
I think they only saw the clip.
My jaw dropped when she said that line.
It's so psychotic.
I mean, I don't know how many times we have to tell the left, if you wouldn't say that sentence and switch the races, then maybe you shouldn't be saying it.
Maybe that's wrong.
Maybe that's whether it's gender, race, sexuality, whatever it is, it's like, you can't say that.
I don't know how we've gotten to a point as a country, I guess, like this is why we don't deserve nice things.
This is why we can't have nice things, because people go on TV and say things like,
oh yeah, well, it's fine, because especially since he killed two white people,
what about that, right?
Like the excitement in her voice, it's like the, it just reminds me
of the university professor saying, oh, October 7th was exhilarating for me.
It's like, that's the level that we're at where they're taking pleasure in innocent people being killed just because of their skin color or their religion.
And there's almost no salvation for a party that believes things like what that woman just said.
dave rubin
Right, because there's no unifying principle there, because in some ways she's basically saying, oh back then when it happened it was kind of okay for a certain set of people because he was black, the perpetrator was black, and the victims were white, and it's like now these are the same people that if The perpetrator is black and the victims are black don't care.
They don't, you know, like they've created something that just promotes racism.
It doesn't promote any actual philosophy that is somewhat consistent or something that we could work with as Americans.
arynne wexler
Yeah, and there's also no expectation for improvement or change, right?
So if you're saying that it's actually that a black person should be killing white people instead of just maybe we reduce crime in our country, and maybe we have better family values, and maybe we make sure that dads stay at home, maybe this wouldn't happen as much and we could all live in harmony.
And instead, it's an excuse, right?
It's the same reason we have DEI.
It's that, you know, it's no one's fault.
It's why we have criminals being released on the streets of New York City
where you know we had a police officer killed just two weeks ago in New
York and that's unfortunately one of many stories that are similar where he's killed by someone who was let out for
the 21st time and instead of looking at that person and saying
dave rubin
there's a serious issue and let's get to the root of it It's well, he's black So that's actually it'd be racist for us to put him in jail And that's what that's what this woman is saying in that I'm trying to think of like what the reverse version of this would be So if Larry Bird the whitest basketball player ever from South Bend, Indiana or wherever he was from Indiana somewhere if Larry Bird killed two black people and everyone knew it would white people be like Larry Bird and
arynne wexler
No.
dave rubin
Exactly.
No, it'd be a deep shame, right?
than they would want Michael Jordan set free for the murder if everyone knew that they,
unidentified
it's just.
arynne wexler
Exactly, no, it'd be a deep shame, right?
Also, by the way, white people don't even feel like a unified, like there's no like
white people group that exists.
And you and I, by the way, aren't considered white, but white passing, as people would say.
But as Jews, it depends on who you ask.
For some people, we're too white, and for some people, we're not white enough, which is really a nice little horseshoe moment that we're getting in our political parties right now.
But we would be absolutely horrified that that would happen.
And also, if that scenario were playing out and it were a white basketball player, baseball player.
I don't even know what sport you're referring to.
I don't know about sports.
Forgive me.
dave rubin
Larry Bird played basketball.
OJ played football.
arynne wexler
My brother is going to be really embarrassed that I said that.
But yes, thanks.
But if you had a sport, an athlete of some sort who were white doing this, there would be riots in the streets if he were acquitted.
And with OJ, the fear was that there would be riots in the streets if he were convicted.
unidentified
Right.
arynne wexler
And that kind of tells you what you need to know.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
And I'm fairly certain if a Jewish football player killed some black people, I wouldn't want him to get off just because he was a Jew.
unidentified
Exactly.
arynne wexler
We also, if we had a Jewish football player, that's, I mean, God.
dave rubin
I was trying to think of somebody.
unidentified
Give me a name.
dave rubin
Give me a name.
What's his name?
He was on the Patriots all those years.
He was not the tight end.
What's his name?
unidentified
Come on.
dave rubin
The guy, the guy.
Not Gronkowski, although it kind of sounds Jewish.
Julian Edelman.
Thank you.
unidentified
Wow.
dave rubin
Phoenix getting a sports reference.
Holy cow.
arynne wexler
Okay.
We found the one.
Thank God.
But, you know, in general, in general, no, it would be, we would want, we would want to make sure they had a harsh sentence, right?
That's what we want.
We want real justice and a real example made.
dave rubin
Of course, now I want to show you.
We're going to end the show by showing you the stupidest thing ever written on Twitter.
We talked about Elon Musk before, and I actually tweeted at him that after seeing this tweet, he could shut the whole thing down.
Like, it cannot get more ridiculous than this.
Here you go.
This is Mark Lamont Hill, who is a professor who used to be on Huffington Post TV.
OJ Simpson was an abusive liar who abandoned his community long before he killed two people in cold blood.
His acquittal for murder was the correct and necessary result of a racist criminal legal system, but he's still a monster, not a martyr.
You can see how this guy's a Hamas supporter, which he is, by the way.
I mean, it's like, this ideology leads to such broken brain morality that you would be happy that someone got away with murder in cold blood in the name of race?
arynne wexler
Yeah, no, I mean, Dave, I think I've heard you say this, that people are so open-minded that their brains have fallen out, right?
And so that's exactly what's happening here.
It's just a level of such stupidity that I really don't know what to say, except I think we have to burn it all down.
We have to start over.
We have to start from scratch, because I don't know how we undo something that's that rotten to the core.
And I don't know what's worse, if someone like that is just playing mental gymnastics,
and so he really doesn't believe what he's saying, and he's just trying to convince us
as to why OJ was actually kind of okay, and why it was good for black people,
or like he really, really believes this.
And I don't know what's scarier.
And it's the same, and with everything on the left, it's always excusing something that doesn't make sense,
whether it's saying that a man can become a woman, or saying that OJ was actually good for black people.
I just don't know actually how we are able to reason with that,
but I think we try.
dave rubin
Right, and also, if the system was as racist and corrupt as he suggests it is, then wouldn't OJ have been put in
jail?
arynne wexler
I know.
That's a great point.
Well, I mean, you know, America is the most racist country on Earth, which is why we nominated and elected our first black president for two terms, right?
But according to Michelle Obama, she still really wasn't proud of her country until that moment.
But yeah, no, we're super racist, which is why we had Barack Obama as our president for eight long years and why we continue to have, you know, black celebrities, black athletes.
Yeah, no, but America is, of course, the most racist place on Earth.
dave rubin
Erin, I've enjoyed today's program.
I'm going to, through ways that I can't fully explain to you, take monetization credit for all of your channels going forward now that you've been on this show twice.
So good luck with all that.
arynne wexler
Thank you so much, I hope you do.
dave rubin
What are you doing in the free state of Florida this weekend?
arynne wexler
What am I doing?
I'm actually going to a rodeo tomorrow night.
I'm pretty excited about it.
And you know what?
It is my first rodeo.
So that's what I'll be doing.
dave rubin
You are a true conservative.
We will put links to all your stuff down below.
Aaron, thank you.
We got a post-game show coming up in 30 seconds at RubinReport.Locals.com.
Part two of my interview with RFK Jr.
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We leave you with the great Norm Macdonald.
unidentified
On Friday, the Jews officially endorsed Bill Clinton for president, adding, quote, I'd like to help him any way I can.
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