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Nov. 8, 2023 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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Exposing Matt Gaetz’s Faux Conservatism | Kevin McCarthy
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unidentified
One speaker, always speaker.
dave rubin
How do I intro you properly?
unidentified
I think that's how it works.
kevin mccarthy
There's only been 56 of us, so.
dave rubin
We are here at this ARC conference.
I just got here two minutes ago, so I missed your speech.
kevin mccarthy
People are still talking about him.
dave rubin
I mean, you just got upstage two minutes ago.
The word is spreading.
kevin mccarthy
You know, the thing I talked about today is about It's kind of what Ronald Reagan said.
I used Reagan's phrases in here on Thatcher.
You think of 43 years ago what the world looked like.
High inflation.
Americans held hostage.
You had this evil empire trying to expand around the world.
It looks a lot like today.
And what rose up?
What defeated that?
It was a Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II.
You could have faith.
You could believe in the family.
You believe in individual rights and liberty and freedom.
And it prospered the world to something we haven't seen before.
But now people become lazy.
They think there's victimhood, right?
That it's negative, that people are something or nothing.
So I really think what Ark is here is instilling those values once again to a world that's badly needed, right?
We've got an evil empire growing.
We've got these cities that that had gotten growth, but now they celebrate
a terrorist organization, a Hamas terrorist attack.
You've got Americans being held hostage there.
You've got high inflation.
And you're wondering, are we going to fall behind?
I firmly believe it's the responsibility of every American, every person in the Western culture,
to bound together to our principles and rebuild what we know the greatness that we can be.
unidentified
Do you see a lot of this as just a function of the success of the West?
dave rubin
That we just got soft, it was just going to happen to a certain extent?
Yes!
kevin mccarthy
It's like anything else, anything in life.
When you go to the third generation, they don't know what the first generation sacrificed and fought for the fruitfulness that they have.
And they become soft and you lose that, right?
It's a real challenge, which was interesting.
I came a day or two early and I went over to Oxford to do a debate.
I think it's the first time an American ever won a debate at Oxford.
But the question was about American intervention.
The proposition was, is bad.
You know, I started the whole debate.
I was the last one, and they all went on with different points.
I just said, I've never been to Oxford.
I've never watched a debate.
Madam President, can I first know my audience?
How many here, their first language is German?
How many here, their first language is Russian?
How many here, their first language is Japanese?
How many here, your first language is English?
Two-thirds of the crowd rose their hand in English, and I said, you're welcome.
Debate's over.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
We've done something okay here.
kevin mccarthy
And the other thing, when they look at American intervention, in every single war America has gone, we've done it for democracy, for freedom, and you know when we leave?
We rebuild, and the only land we ask for is just enough to bury those Americans who gave the ultimate sacrifice for them.
dave rubin
Have we just not done a good job selling that to our own people, to the Americans, I mean, who now seemingly are very confused about what foreign policy should be?
kevin mccarthy
I worry about America when they're looking at foreign policy.
And part of that is what the Democrats have done by bringing us such great of debt, you know, so they fear we're tipping point in others.
But it looks like a lot like the 1930s.
I mean, think of that.
The actions of Putin are very similar to Hitler.
I mean, Hitler served in the German army.
He hated they signed the Treaty of Versailles.
He created a new party, ran a democracy, and again and again until he was elected, rebuilt his country by rebuilding the military, even though it went against the Treaty of Versailles.
He invaded other countries, and he took away people's freedoms.
Putin didn't serve in the Sylvanian army, but he served in the KGB.
He ran for office in a democracy, respected it, served two terms, got out, put Medved in, came back, took the power away, rebuilt his military, and then he realized the military makes you strong, but dependency makes you weak.
He used the KGB tactics to make Europe dependent on his natural gas.
But as America, if we replaced Russian natural gas for one year, do you realize we would lower CO2 emissions by 218 million tons in one year?
Because ours is 41% cleaner.
But we've got a president who attacks our own ability for natural gas that could supply our allies, and even our adversaries would have greater control over them.
And then what did he do?
He invaded other countries.
Same exact tactic.
And you need a strength.
And it's interesting being here in the UK and being from America, we watched in a time like this where you had the leaders of Reagan and Thatcher and then Faith, John Paul II.
The three of them together transformed the world.
I mean, these kids at Oxford don't understand there were two Germanys.
They don't understand what was the threat.
They think the world is easy.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
And they're at Oxford.
Oxford is doing a little better, I think, than most of our colleges in the States.
Let's shift back to America for a moment because obviously you are not speaker anymore.
I sense kind of like a sense of ease from you regarding this whole thing.
kevin mccarthy
Well, look, I didn't want to have a fun chat with you last night.
dave rubin
I sense you're kind of okay.
kevin mccarthy
Look, I give as good as I get.
I would do it all again.
If it meant making sure our troops got paid, as they're sitting in the Mediterranean right now wondering if they make their car payment or their house payment or their family back home, I know I did the right thing.
America knows I did the right When eight people, four percent of your conference, partners with every single Democrat for the exact same reason, for political reasons, to try to take you out?
I admire the fact that they think I'm that important.
Secondly, too, is my record.
I have been leader for five years.
In those two election cycles, we have only won seats.
Of all the Republican entities, everybody else lost.
And you know who we won?
We were able to elect the most women in the history of the Republican Party in Congress, the most minorities in the history of the Republican Party.
I'm proud of what I left.
And if you look at the state from when I received our party in Congress and where I left it, it is so much better off.
And we're poised to win big races next time.
This is going to be one of our best election cycles.
We just had redistricting in North Carolina.
I mean, to lose seats in the next cycle will be malpractice.
I lefters with 20 million more than we've ever had.
dave rubin
Give the Republicans a chance.
There's always a way to screw things up.
Do you think that part of the messaging problem is that it seems to me that you were fixing things, and this is what we talked about when you had me at the Capitol, you were fixing things on the margins.
You were taking a system that was kind of screwy and figuring out ways to work with the system, where the base kind of just likes this idea that you just come in and destroy everything, whether it means you're going to rebuild anything after or not, and that's sort of the tension?
kevin mccarthy
It's almost like they don't want any responsibility.
They just want to go on a podcast or something else and say they said no.
But the one thing—look, I grew up in a family of all Democrats, but I've always been a Republican, and mainly based upon Reagan, and I talked about that in here.
Look, I'm a son of a firefighter, a grandson of a cattle rancher.
I remember Carter putting a sweater on and telling me that the best day is behind me.
But I also remember Reagan saying, no pastels, fly the bold colors and row the shiny city on the hill.
Being a conservative doesn't mean you say no.
Being a conservative means you govern in a conservative way to make government better.
Under my speakership, we had the biggest cut in American history.
the largest rescission in American history.
We had welfare reform.
I mean, we have achieved, even in a short time, things that we've never been achieved before.
And you only had a four-seat majority.
I mean, after the removal of Speaker, I hope people understood how difficult it is,
because we went through those three weeks.
I mean, it's tough to govern, but you've got Democrats in the Senate and the presidency.
And when August came, they did a study of this Congress with the last Congress under Nancy Pelosi,
where the Democrats controlled all.
We passed more bills.
We had more become into law, even though the Democrats were in the majority.
You think.
Parents' Bill of Rights.
H.R.
1, make us energy independent.
unidentified
H.R.
kevin mccarthy
2, securing our border.
You know, we've never, as Republicans, have passed a border security bill since Ronald Reagan.
We've had big majorities.
We just did it with four.
We look at the challenges.
We were facing every single challenge we were giving solutions.
And look, we all know the individual who led this Gates.
He's not a conservative by any means.
He'll admit it to you.
He has nothing to do about conservatism.
His whole goal is about attention.
It's personal with him.
But unfortunately, it's hurting the entire nation.
dave rubin
Yeah, it's interesting, because I mentioned to you last night, the guy who, to me, is the most libertarian member of Comet... Oh, Massa!
He basically was like, McCarthy was giving us the most conservative house that we have ever had.
And that wasn't, in essence, good enough for Gates.
And that's got to be a strange position to be in.
kevin mccarthy
Gates would stop us from doing the appropriation bills and complain, I haven't done them.
Then we had the most conservative stopgap bill that would secure our border, cut billions of dollars, and he wouldn't vote for it to keep government open and say, if government isn't open, it's your fault.
That's a deal with the devil one way or another.
All right, we've only got like two minutes left.
dave rubin
by Gates, but the biggest problem is they worked with every single Democrat.
I mean, it sounds like there's some options.
What do you think?
kevin mccarthy
There's a lot of options, but look.
dave rubin
Want to move to the free state of Florida?
unidentified
I got a lot of options.
dave rubin
My companies are growing.
unidentified
What can I do?
kevin mccarthy
Yeah, you might need a little help.
Maybe I'll run the cameras.
Look, I have worked too hard to get this majority to just walk away.
But the one thing I've always learned is I never give up.
I don't have to have the title of Speaker.
I don't have to have the title of Congressman.
I believe too much.
And our conservative values to ever give up on that.
And so I sit around and look at what I'm going to do in the future, but it's always going to be about working towards making America more prosper, providing people more individual liberties and freedoms.
And this country is too great to give up on.
dave rubin
Well, I gotta tell you, man, in all the years that I've been doing this, one of the true pleasures of my career was that day that we spent.
So I don't know when, I don't know when another speaker is going to invite me to the people's house to read.
I mean, it was right there.
We didn't reopening anything, everything.
It was truly one of the thrills of my career.
unidentified
So.
kevin mccarthy
Well, thank you for all your great work.
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