Oct. 1, 2023 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| Never feel guilty for the work others have to do to win in life. | ||
| And I read this at 30 years old, 29, 30 years old, I got a hold of this book that's very | ||
| hard to get a hold of. | ||
| He wrote a couple books, one is called Pushing Up People, another one is called All You Can | ||
| Do Is All You Can Do, but All You Can Do Is Enough, but this book is not a, you can't | ||
| buy it in bookstores, so I got a hold of it. | ||
| And it said, Never Feel Guilty. | ||
| Never feel guilty. | ||
| Never feel guilty. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Hey, that guy's got to pay the price as well. | ||
| If he says he's got this big dream, he's got to pay the price. | ||
| So never feel guilty. | ||
| Well, first of all, congratulations. | ||
| Place looks amazing, and thanks for having me, man. | ||
| I mean, when Sam said, Pat, schedule, because we're leaving to New York tomorrow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Can we make this? | ||
| I said, it's Dave. | ||
| No question about it. | ||
| We've got to figure it out. | ||
| We got down here to be here with you. | ||
| There were several reasons I wanted to do this. | ||
| Mostly because I knew you would dress to the nines to show up here. | ||
| And a first guest has to dress right. | ||
| But that is part of the PBD operation, right? | ||
| Like looking good, dressing right, taking care of yourself. | ||
| It's part of the kind of whole thing that has given you success. | ||
| I would say so. | ||
| This is not what I was used to growing up. | ||
| I don't think I've ever worn a suit as a kid. | ||
| Maybe I went to a wedding one time and I wore a suit, but you go to the military, you come out, I'm the baggy pants guy, size 48 jeans with dickies. | ||
| I've seen some of the old pictures. | ||
| You do some of those old throwbacks. | ||
| That's some of my stuff. | ||
| And then I go to the Army, I get out in the Army, I start wearing BDUs, and I started falling in love with ironing my clothes with starch from PX and shining my boots for a couple hours. | ||
| I love doing that. | ||
| And then when I got out and started working in business, and one of my guys at Morgan Stanley Dean Wooter said, you got to get a nice suit. | ||
| And then I put it on. | ||
| I said, I kind of like this. | ||
| And then, you know, the rest is obviously history. | ||
| When did, well, first off, let's do this. | ||
| Cheers, man. | ||
| Cheers. | ||
| Congrats on this. | ||
| Thank you, thank you. | ||
| And everything, well, everything that we're going to talk about is sort of, I would say, a congrats to both of us, because we both moved our lives and operations to this free state, and it has pretty much worked since then. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| So I'll agree to that. | ||
| I should note, by the way, you're doing the whiskey. | ||
| You're a whiskey guy. | ||
| You're doing the what? | ||
| You're doing the tequila? | ||
| I'm a tequila guy. | ||
| I tried to finish all the tequila in the world. | ||
| Didn't work. | ||
| So I gave up. | ||
| And I moved to whiskey. | ||
| I want to get you on tequila. | ||
| Can I tell you that the bottle, I think, Conor, can we get a shot of the bottle behind me? | ||
| That's the most expensive bottle I've ever bought in my life. | ||
| No joke. | ||
| 550 bucks. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| For a bottle of tequila. | ||
| But I was like, you know what? | ||
| New studio. | ||
| Things are going alright. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| I'm sitting down with PBD. | ||
| I've had my eye on that bottle for a long time and I went out and bought it yesterday and I was like, we're going to do it. | ||
| Well, listen, I mean, it matches your one bedroom condo you live in here. | ||
| Can you believe I sleep in this room too? | ||
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Isn't that something? | |
| I love how, right before we start, my producer Phoenix says to you, hey Patrick, what kind of watch is that? | ||
| Without flinching, oh it's a Fossil 50 bucks. | ||
| It's a Fossil watch. | ||
| No, but obviously your house is a beautiful house, what you've got here. | ||
| Congrats to your success on what you've done. | ||
| Going from where you were at, I love you, I'm asking you, what are these VHS, you know, from stand-up to now being one of the most powerful voices out there, man, it's great to see what you've done. | ||
| You know, I was, well that's, truly that's why I wanted to have you in for this first show, because your dedication to success and trying to replicate that for other people, I mean, those days when I was doing that, I was broke. | ||
| I mean broke, I didn't have 50 bucks. | ||
| I was borrowing change to get a cup of coffee at Zabar's on the Upper West Side | ||
| so I could do a little standup at night to pray for the dream. | ||
| I had a buddy, this is totally true, I had a buddy who worked in food service for restaurants | ||
| who would drop off industrial-sized cans of tuna that I would survive on for weeks. | ||
| Most likely I'm gonna die of mercury poisoning, you know? | ||
| But that thing, like that thing, the struggle to the success. | ||
| Tell me, I know your story, Can you give me like the brief like struggle | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you talk about tuna. | ||
| When I was in the army, I would get the tuna because it was disgusting, but the can was like 49 cents at PX, and you would mix it with mustard, because at least mustard would make it tolerable, and throughout the day, I would have three, four, five of these cans. | ||
| To get the protein. | ||
| Listen, regular... Maybe tuna. | ||
| Tuna might be the key to the whole operation. | ||
| I think that's what it is. | ||
| Mercury, we're both going to go through. | ||
| One Day News is going to come out. | ||
| Dave Rubin and Patrick Bedevid are dealing with mercury, having too much of it. | ||
| But no, I mean, look, you know, it all starts with a dream. | ||
| I was talking to a couple of the guys the other day, just yesterday, we're doing a Zoom call with a couple of our executives. | ||
| And one of my guys says, hey, one of my sales guys I'm dealing with, he's very difficult to deal with. | ||
| He's a pain in the ass. | ||
| And he's tough to do this. | ||
| He's a 1099 guy, not W2. | ||
| W2 you have the option to fire and coach and send him to places, but 1099, you're working with these guys, right? | ||
| It's like you're running an insurance office and real estate office. | ||
| So he says, what do I do with him? | ||
| I said, well, let me tell you what I do in these types of situations. | ||
| I said, for a guy like me, I joined the army at 18, April 15, 1997. | ||
| I get shipped to Fort Jackson, South Carolina. | ||
| My ASVAB score wasn't high, so I only could be infantry or mechanic, so I became a Hummer mechanic. | ||
| I had 13 Hummers to myself. | ||
| I had a couple FMTVs and LMTVs, these are the bigger trucks, and I had a Hotel 8 certification, which means I can tow cars out of the mud, trucks out of the mud, and that's what I did for a living. | ||
| I thought I was going to do 20 years. | ||
| Literally, I'm going to be in the Army for 20 years. | ||
| Then I'm going to get out, I'm going to get an additional 10 points on my score to be working at the post office or cop or firefighter, because if you're a former military, you get that 10 points on the test. | ||
| So if somebody scores 75, but you're in the Army, you get 85. | ||
| If you do 82, you do 92, right? | ||
| So I had that advantage. | ||
| Then one day I get a call from a friend of mine, Kogan. | ||
| He says, hey, Pat, what are you doing? | ||
| I said, tomorrow I'm reenlisting for six years. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I'm going to enlist tomorrow. | ||
| They got me everything I wanted on my orders. | ||
| I'm going to go Special Forces, Delta, Sears School. | ||
| You know, I speak five languages, so they're going to help me out to sharpen my language, and then I'm going to go to Vicenza, Italy, which is where I wanted to go to. | ||
| There was a beautiful unit there. | ||
| And then from there, you know, I'm going to do this for 20 years, and I'm going to retire at 38 years old, and then I'm going to go be a cop and firefighter. | ||
| He says, Pat, you've got to get out. | ||
| I said, I'm not getting out. | ||
| I'm signing my contract tomorrow for six years and I'm getting my Army Accommodation Medal. | ||
| I had gotten an Army Achievement Medal. | ||
| Tomorrow was a celebration. | ||
| Lieutenant Colonel Peacock was going to give me an Army Accommodation Medal. | ||
| He says, can I convince you otherwise? | ||
| I said, you can. | ||
| My dad already sent me a $250 camera as a gift for committing to reenlist. | ||
| He said, just give me an hour. | ||
| And this guy was the only guy that ever came and visited me in the Army out of my friends | ||
| And when you're in the army, you're alone, you remember all the letters. | ||
| I kept every letter. | ||
| Every single letter. | ||
| Anybody ever wrote me while I was in boot camp, I have all of it till today. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| You know like who's a friend and who's thinking and who's not. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| The people you thought that you're best, they never wrote you a letter. | ||
| The people you thought were like, they were okay, they wrote you 50, 60 letters. | ||
| So I'm sitting there, an hour later, it's now 1 o'clock in the morning, I've got formation early in the morning, I can't sleep all night, I've already promised my dad I'm going to re-enlist, he wants me to stay in uniform, be in the military, I get out in the morning, go to Lt. | ||
| Col. | ||
| Peacock, disappointing news for you, I can't re-enlist, I've got to get out, but David, what are you doing? | ||
| We got you the orders, you have no clue how much I respect you, but I'm getting out. | ||
| So I get out, they don't give me the Army Accommodation Medal. | ||
| How difficult were those few hours? | ||
| It wasn't easy. | ||
| I'm thinking about it right now. | ||
| I'm going back because I threw my boots over the, you know, you celebrate like, hey, this is it. | ||
| It wasn't easy. | ||
| Let me tell you, it was a lot of anxiety because when you're in the military, it's so regimented. | ||
| It's so like routine. | ||
| And if you like routine, there's a lot of trust and comfort in routine. | ||
| There's order, there's expectation, there's a time for formation. | ||
| It's a lot of good things. | ||
| Your benefits, child hold, when you eat, how much you get paid, your promotions, correspondence | ||
| courses you've got to take. | ||
| You know, you'll be an E5, E6, E7, eventually you'll be a drill sergeant, maybe a first | ||
| sergeant, then sergeant major, E9, and that's kind of the route you go. | ||
| And you can take advantage of the GI Bill, maybe become an officer, second lieutenant, | ||
| first lieutenant, work your way up. | ||
| So there was an immediate, you can travel, see the world. | ||
| You know 20 years what it's going to look like. | ||
| It's predictable. | ||
| And I like the predictable aspect, but I also have an uncertainty aspect. | ||
| The unknown fires me up. | ||
| There's an element of unknown that's exciting, that the level of curiosity, I want to know | ||
| what the possibilities are. | ||
| So then I get out. | ||
| I get out of the military. | ||
| I come out to be a Hummer mechanic and there was one shop at Camarillo and it was Thousand Oaks Camarillo that had a Hummer dealership. | ||
| So I go and I said, listen, I'm the best Hummer mechanic in Fort Campbell, Kentucky. | ||
| And the guy says, listen man, we sell maybe one or two Hummers a month, each one. | ||
| We have one mechanic, if we're lucky, we don't need a second one. | ||
| And I said, I'm very good at shooting. | ||
| He says, listen, we don't need a hitman here. | ||
| You know, you're not going to use it in private. | ||
| So at that point, I went and took the test to be a cop. | ||
| I had 16 speeding tickets, so I couldn't be a cop. | ||
| And then firefighter, there was a hold. | ||
| And then boom, five year freezing, being a firefighter. | ||
| Then I get out and start making money in the financial sector, Morgan Stanley, Transamerica. | ||
| Then I started my own insurance company. | ||
| And the rest is history. | ||
| The point I was making with this meeting was, The level of grace God has on us, when you go back and think about the people you met in your life, some of them were, they made such a big impact in your life, but they're a five minute person in your life. | ||
| You're at Nordstrom's. | ||
| Your son is wrestling with you. | ||
| A woman over here who's 65 years old is looking at me for 10 minutes while me and Dylan are wrestling. | ||
| I said, ma'am, how are you doing? | ||
| She said, I'm doing good. | ||
| She said, do you know why I'm looking at you? | ||
| I said, why are you looking at me? | ||
| She said, because I remember when my kids were that age. | ||
| I said, tell me about your kids. | ||
| I have three sons. | ||
| How do they do? | ||
| What do they do? | ||
| One's a doctor. | ||
| One's an engineer. | ||
| And one's a lawyer. | ||
| Really? | ||
| All successful? | ||
| All successful. | ||
| All married with kids? | ||
| All married with kids. | ||
| Give me three secret sauce. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| I said, I'll only give you one. | ||
| I said, what's that? | ||
| She says, if you ever threaten to discipline your kids, follow through. | ||
| I was like, out of all the advice you can give, you give me this? | ||
| If you threaten them, always follow through because your word can't lose weight. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This is five years ago. | ||
| I'm at Nordstrom's. | ||
| That lady was in my life for five minutes. | ||
| That impact is permanent. | ||
| You got certain people that are one day, certain people that are a month, certain people that are a year, certain people that are a decade. | ||
| But if you think, like, if you have a relationship with the man upstairs and you say, how did this person come into my life? | ||
| What is the chance of me meeting this person or that? | ||
| What? | ||
| I'm the luckiest man alive, so when you look at it from that perspective, and then now when I wake up in the morning at the beginning, you and I were, you know, joking about poison in the drink, and I told you, I said, if God takes me today, man, I've lived the most incredible life. | ||
| I am so grateful. | ||
| Everything from here is dessert and bonus, and, you know, that's a brief element of the story I haven't told before. | ||
| Do you try to acknowledge that every day? | ||
| I sense that you do, from watching your show and just watching what you're doing on Instagram, because I've noticed for me, and maybe this is partly just being a new father, I really am like, things have been good. | ||
| I don't want anything else. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. | ||
| I have the family I'm supposed to have. | ||
| I'm unbelievably humbled by that, and I don't know what to do with it sometimes, in a way. | ||
| It's interesting you say that. | ||
| So to me, this is the battle I have, right? | ||
| Because I have friends of mine who made their money that no longer want to work. | ||
| And they're living the life where it's like, well, you know, Kobe had the father time that came. | ||
| You know, LeBron's father time is coming. | ||
| I'm kind of going through the father time myself. | ||
| People will say this, right? | ||
| And I'll say, cool, to each his own. | ||
| Totally respect this, salute to you, but I can't help myself. | ||
| I tend to challenge everybody around me, family, friends, kids. | ||
| If you're around me, you're either going to like it, because I'm going to challenge you, or you're not going to like it, because this is too much. | ||
| I can't be around this guy too much, because it's constantly the next level, the next thing. | ||
| But you have to realize, as tough as I am on everybody else, I'm a lot tougher on myself. | ||
| The way I process this is the following way. | ||
| I'm greedy and selfish in the following way. | ||
| I watched a movie, Meet Joe Black, that completely messed me up. | ||
| I've never seen a movie, Meet Joe Black, until two months ago. | ||
| At Brad Pitt, right? | ||
| But I don't think I've seen it. | ||
| Oh, I mean, listen, let me tell you, I can't tell you how ridiculous this movie is. | ||
| The vault conference we held with Brady two weeks ago, I talked about Meet Joe Black for two, three days. | ||
| Because the scene opens up with Brad Pitt shows up and Brad Pitt is death. | ||
| I'm not going to give you the whole story, but he says, I'm death and he keeps rubbing his chest. | ||
| You know, Anthony Hopkins, one of the greatest actors of all time, because he's having a heart attack. | ||
| And death comes and says, your time is here. | ||
| You're about to die. | ||
| He's 65 years old. | ||
| His oldest daughter is putting together the big party. | ||
| Presidents are showing up. | ||
| Senators are showing up. | ||
| Billionaires are showing up. | ||
| And here's a businessman that's a billionaire, gets in a helicopter from Hamptons, goes to Manhattan, does business, comes back, and you know, that's the life he's living. | ||
| And he's so close with his daughters. | ||
| They love him. | ||
| Youngest daughter is kind of like his right-hand person that's doing stuff with business. | ||
| And she's dating the other right-hand guy. | ||
| And this house is like a behemoth, 60,000 square foot house. | ||
| And impact, investments, board. | ||
| And I'm watching this movie. | ||
| Oh my God, it fired me up because it gave me urgency because my dream was always to have the family live close. | ||
| I want all my kids close to me. | ||
| Obviously, they don't have to. | ||
| They get to do whatever they want to do. | ||
| But I'm going to bust my tail to have so many different opportunities where if you want to be a realtor, you can manage our real estate portfolio. | ||
| If you want to be a lawyer, we need lawyers. | ||
| If you want to go do movies, let's go fund your movies. | ||
| If you want to go be a teacher, let's build a school together. | ||
| They could be dog walkers because I saw a video that you did where your kids are now making some money dog walking. | ||
| Yeah, dog walking. | ||
| You want to be a capitalist, go do it. | ||
| But let's stay together because I want us to stay together as a family and I'm going to do my best to create that net. | ||
| And then at the same time, the other side, you know, I wrote this book called Choose Your Enemies Wisely. | ||
| That comes out December 5th. | ||
| A lot of people say, you know, why choose your enemies wisely? | ||
| Why not choose your friends wisely? | ||
| Why not choose your allies wisely? | ||
| I really think this is a season where enemies are truly formidable enemies that requires | ||
| people who are capable to fight to stand up. | ||
| And I take that role very seriously. | ||
| I teach my kids, if somebody in school is getting bullied and you can do something about it, you've got to stop that. | ||
| If you don't, you're a coward. | ||
| So in a way, if I'm teaching this to my kids, And I'm watching what's going on in America, what's going on with, you know, these guys telling Rumble what to do from House of Commons. | ||
| Hey, you guys better take this guy down and consider what YouTube did to them from UK's telling Rumble, a Canadian company based out of... Who the hell are you to say something about what they're doing to parents? | ||
| And you got 30 different cities who are in Canada protesting right now against indoctrinating kids and have so much respect for these parents that are willing to do the fight. | ||
| I'm sorry, some people maybe don't have a platform. | ||
| Like, you and I, who am I to want to sit here and just celebrate all this money I've made, the house I have, the relationships I have. | ||
| I feel like this is an era where God is looking for the flag carriers to rise up and we feel we want to earn the right to be one of them. | ||
| Did you have to do work to not feel guilty over success? | ||
| Because the mainstream idea of success, everyone wants to pretend it's only worthwhile if you came from nothing. | ||
| It's only worthwhile if you have nothing. | ||
| If you're always struggling. | ||
| But if you came from anything or you have anything, you should be guilty about it or feel bad about it. | ||
| And I actually remember the first time that I went to your show, which was soon after moving to Florida, and it was so, you guys loved success so much. | ||
| And obviously the last couple of years have been good to me, and it has been a shift in my mind to not feel any shame around it. | ||
| I feel pride over it. | ||
| I mean, I built this, I work with great people, I talk to people like you. | ||
| But it's like, you have to do work to do that, because you have to overcome what society's telling you about success. | ||
| You know, it's a great point. | ||
| I read a book once by a man named Art Williams, a man I look up to a lot. | ||
| He's a great leader. | ||
| He went from being a regular guy in the insurance industry, built a company, became a billionaire, bought an NHL team, and just great family guy. | ||
| I think he's been married for 50 something years to his wife, if not longer. | ||
| And he's impacted a lot of people's lives. | ||
| In one of his books, he says, never feel guilty for the work others have to do to win in life. | ||
| And I read this at 30 years old. | ||
| 29, 30 years old. | ||
| I got a hold of this book that's very hard to get a hold of. | ||
| He wrote a couple books. | ||
| One is called Pushing Up People. | ||
| Another one is called All You Can Do Is All You Can Do, But All You Can Do Is Enough. | ||
| But this book is not a, you can't buy it in bookstores. | ||
| So I got a hold of it. | ||
| And it said, never feel guilty, Michael. | ||
| Never feel guilty. | ||
| Never feel guilty. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Hey, that guy's got to pay the price as well. | ||
| If he says he's got this big dream, he's got to pay the price. | ||
| So never feel guilty. | ||
| What a point. | ||
| Kids, never feel guilty. | ||
| If your kid wants it, he's got to pay the price. | ||
| Yesterday, Jay Williams, you know Jay Williams, the basketball player, we were together until midnight. | ||
| He's at the house. | ||
| He's talking to Dylan, Dylan's an athlete, so he wants to play sports, super competitive. | ||
| So he says, Dylan, tell me about yourself. | ||
| He says, well, I play this, this, this, this, that. | ||
| He says, how good are you? | ||
| He says, I'm a good athlete, but I'm a little too competitive sometimes. | ||
| And I want to win all the time. | ||
| He says, let me show you a video. | ||
| He shows the video. | ||
| He sits down on the stairs. | ||
| And he's showing Dylan this video, Jay Williams, talking to Tom Bilyeu on Impact Theory about a story of Kobe Bryant. | ||
| This video went viral. | ||
| And he says, one day we're shooting. | ||
| I'm doing 400 shots. | ||
| I wasn't going to leave until I make the phone. | ||
| You've probably seen this video. | ||
| Yeah, I've seen it. | ||
| And Dylan's like enamored by it. | ||
| We're just kind of watching this. | ||
| And he's like, wow, that's pretty wild on what, you know, Kobe did to get to where he's at. | ||
| So then he's teaching my son. | ||
| Hey, if you really want to go there, you're going to have to pay the price because this guy paid the price. | ||
| I can't feel guilty for my son having to pay the price. | ||
| So, if others don't want to do it, I don't feel guilty for you. | ||
| So then the next phase becomes for us is you came from nothing, you're broke when you're | ||
| doing this comedy stand-up, and now you're living in an incredible home here and your | ||
| voice carries weight where people want your endorsement, people want to see what Dave | ||
| has to say. | ||
| You've spoken to some of the most powerful names around the world, and you are many people's | ||
| dreams. | ||
| One day people want to follow your footstep. | ||
| Well, they've got to pay the price for it, but the challenge is going to be for our kids. | ||
| Our kids are going to go through the other part. | ||
| Well, listen, you're a rich kid, and you're this, and you're that, and you're this. | ||
| I'm reading this book by Joseph Kennedy, and Joseph Kennedy in his book, when you read | ||
| it, one of the things he didn't want to do is never want to give credit to his parents, | ||
| because he wanted to say, I did it myself. | ||
| So, you know, as you go into this phase, our kids' challenge is going to be different than ours. | ||
| Last night, I'm really challenging one of my kids, hardcore right now, and my wife and I are having a conversation because we're reading Musk's new book. | ||
| Phenomenal book, by the way. | ||
| I don't know if you've gone through it yet or not. | ||
| I haven't gone through it yet. | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| Phenomenal. | ||
| It just came out a couple of days ago. | ||
| Man, you're on it. | ||
| It just came out, the story with him, Kimball, sister, two hours he would walk to this and how he would get into fights and bullied and the way his dad was and why he lived with his dad and Kimball, which is a very interesting story. | ||
| And it's like, babe, you know, I said, babe, you need to listen to this book because you have to know one of our kids wired this way, so we have to understand him better. | ||
| And she says, but you know, you think we're being a little bit too tough? | ||
| I said, babe. | ||
| If life is going to be, everything is going to be easy and perfect and no challenges, we need to create a little bit of challenges for our kids to be tougher. | ||
| And that's the element of as a parent, we need to be creative. | ||
| And that's not easy to do because we have the resources to make their lives very easy. | ||
| It's going to be very challenging for us and we at the same time need to have them have their own identity. | ||
| But one of the lessons I learned is we can't feel guilty for the price others have to pay. | ||
| Does the fame part feel weird to you? | ||
| Because, I mean, you were an insurance guy, and a business guy, and you were giving business talks, and now it's like you're talking to presidential candidates, and all the people I'm talking to. | ||
| I was a comedian, like the idea of fame was like built into the, I never was doing it to be, maybe subconsciously I was, I wasn't consciously doing it that way, but like fame was gonna be an extension of what I did. | ||
| You go into insurance, You're not going, I'm going to be famous one day. | ||
| Yeah, no, listen. | ||
| To be famous in insurance, it means nothing. | ||
| It means you did something really illegal. | ||
| For you to be, wow, what a famous insurance agent, right? | ||
| The way he signed that contract is just incredible, right? | ||
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That guy moved a lot of freaking debts. | |
| There is no like sports, Patrick B. David, watch the way he signed his insurance policy. | ||
| There's no such thing like that, right? | ||
| It's kind of weird. | ||
| But I think what I like about it is the evolution of it, where it wasn't sudden. | ||
| What is very tough is no one knows who you are, and boom, here we go. | ||
| Like, Deion's son right now, you're seeing the amount of fame he's getting, but he's had the best mentor to coach him for, Deion, because Deion was, you know, the face, you know, the greatest athlete, I would say of all time, what he's done, just athlete, not winner, athlete, the greatest. | ||
| I put him number one, I put Bo two, I put LeBron three, the greatest winners of all time. | ||
| I got MJ and Brady at the top, then it's a couple other guys. | ||
| I think that's just purely two-sport athleticism. | ||
| Oh, his 40, the way he played, you're hitting .324 for the Atlanta Braves. | ||
| And you know how hard that... | ||
| 92? | ||
| Yeah, 92, 93, that whole team with, I think it was Pendleton, Galarraga, all those guys | ||
| that they had, David Justice, I think that's all the crazy pitchers, Smoltz, Klaben, Maddox | ||
| they had. | ||
| So, yeah, but to me, some people don't have the coaching of fame. | ||
| So you see some of these guys on social media where they all of a sudden get fame, and they start acting dumb. | ||
| But, you know, we have to also be patient for some of them because they're going to go through it. | ||
| For us, the advantage we have is, it's not like all of a sudden a thousand people are waiting outside saying, oh my God, Dave. | ||
| Are you that guy? | ||
| You start off with that guy. | ||
| You look like that guy. | ||
| You look like Dave Rubin. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I love to say this. | ||
| It's actually my twin brother. | ||
| I can't stand the guy. | ||
| If you only knew who he was, you wouldn't like him as much because you need to know the truth about him. | ||
| But no, the benefit we have, it's evolution. | ||
| It's slow. | ||
| It's gradual. | ||
| Then there is the boom. | ||
| But by that time, you've been trained. | ||
| Can I tell you the wackiest one of those that I saw was a guy that you've interviewed and met many times, Jordan Peterson, when I was touring with him for a year and a half. | ||
| And think about it, this guy's a clinical psychologist, so he spent most of his life, he was teaching also, but spent most of his life helping people get off drugs, one-on-one like this, privately. | ||
| Then he becomes basically the most famous person in the world overnight. | ||
| And everywhere we went, we'd get to airports in Sweden and there'd be 200 people waiting for us because they got their life in order. | ||
| And he would talk to every single one of them. | ||
| I never saw the guy be rude or ignore or walk away from anybody. | ||
| And it was like... But I will tell you this. | ||
| Jeez! | ||
| But I'll tell you this. | ||
| I also will say he also didn't know how to handle it. | ||
| To an extent. | ||
| I was with him during that. | ||
| Not from the arrogant, I'm not talking that side at all. | ||
| I'm talking about one day I'm having him on and for about 30 minutes he talked about how much tweets bother him. | ||
| And he really didn't like what people were saying on Twitter. | ||
| And I was kind of shocked by him saying this. | ||
| This is five years ago. | ||
| First time I had him on the show. | ||
| And then I brought him back at an event in 2019 at the Mirage. | ||
| This is the event where we had President Bush, Kobe Bryant, the late Kobe Bryant. | ||
| This is that event. | ||
| This is that event. | ||
| And he's speaking and he's crying half the time. | ||
| I'm like, he's going through something. | ||
| And I asked him a couple questions. | ||
| I'm like, he's going through something. | ||
| That's the last interview he does. | ||
| And then he goes through the phase that he went through. | ||
| And he openly talked about how he dealt with it, how challenging it was for him. | ||
| And then the comeback on what he's done and what his daughter's done, both of them. | ||
| I mean, they're formal. | ||
| Obviously, Jordan Peterson is a powerhouse. | ||
| He's a force of nature. | ||
| And he's duplicating it with his daughter. | ||
| And that's where the respect goes. | ||
| That your daughter is carrying the torch and I can only imagine where she's going to be later on in life. | ||
| She's already crushing it. | ||
| But imagine what that's going to be in 10 years. | ||
| So I want to talk to you about that Kobe thing. | ||
| We talked about it one other time when you were on the show. | ||
| So you basically did the last, was it the last interview with Kobe? | ||
| It was certainly the last big interview with Kobe. | ||
| Kobe were both basketball guys. | ||
| We picked our top fives. | ||
| I still think mine beats yours, but we'll do that later. | ||
| But Kobe, the day, I think, maybe I told you this privately, I can't remember, two or three days before he died, I was watching, just flicking the channels, and I flicked past, I lived in LA at the time, and I flicked past Comcast Sports or whatever the Lakers are on, and I saw Kobe, and I hadn't seen him in a while. | ||
| He had a beard. | ||
| And he looked like a million bucks. | ||
| That was my thought. | ||
| He looks like a million bucks. | ||
| And I stopped and I watched, and just the way he spoke, that calmness that he spoke with, and always licking his lips like he was just ready to chew the world. | ||
| And I watched for about five minutes, and I swear to God this is true. | ||
| I remember thinking, this is a guy who has done life right. | ||
| That was either the day or two days before he was dead. | ||
| And then the day he died, I saw it on Twitter. | ||
| I immediately began to tear up. | ||
| I was on tour with Jordan at the time. | ||
| I was about to get in an Uber. | ||
| I get in the Uber, and it's a young black guy as the driver. | ||
| He's hysterical crying, because he must have just found out at that moment. | ||
| Hysterical crying. | ||
| I said to him, I know, I know, it's Kobe, I know. | ||
| And it was very early, so I said, we don't have to go anywhere for a while, you wanna just talk about Kobe for a while. | ||
| And we spent about a half hour. | ||
| Get outta here. | ||
| I swear to God, just talking about the 81 point game, the Denver game when he flew in after the legal, like everything, everything. | ||
| And I remember thinking like, man, that guy, two days ago I'm thinking he's living the dream. | ||
| Whatever the secret of the universe is, he unlocked it. | ||
| And you sat with him and had one of the, I think, one of the best interviews that he's ever had. | ||
| I don't even know what my question is, other than, what do you do with that? | ||
| What do you do with that concept? | ||
| You know, Kobe's an August 23, 1978 baby. | ||
| I'm an October 18, 1978 baby. | ||
| We're six weeks apart. | ||
| You guys are kids. | ||
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I'm 76. | |
| You're 76, but you look younger than me. | ||
| You look better than me. | ||
| This is the moisture here in South Florida. | ||
| So, so when he came and they traded him for Vlade Divac, obviously we were devastated. | ||
| We didn't want to lose Vlade because Vlade is a top five center, greatest center of all time. | ||
| Hence the sarcasm. | ||
| Harsh, poor sarcasm. | ||
| Wow, you see, that didn't get by me. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Top five center. | ||
| He was good. | ||
| He was a good passer. | ||
| I love Vlade, but he's not Kobe. | ||
| I love when he scored the points, put his hands behind his back. | ||
| He won two Magic Johns. | ||
| I just love Vlade. | ||
| I would have never lived that down if I had missed that. | ||
| That would have been... | ||
| Top five Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, and by the way, I think he's a GM or something for Sacramento. | ||
| I don't know if he still is or not, but I like his swagger. | ||
| And those Sacramento teams are awesome. | ||
| Yeah, phenomenal. | ||
| Him, Christie, and all those guys, you know, Stojakovic, great team. | ||
| You know, it was like, I'm going to go this place, I'm not an athlete, you're going to go this place, but listen man, I'm going to bring the Mamba mentality in my own way in the insurance space. | ||
| And boom. | ||
| And then later on in 2019, there's a video of me dressed as Doc from Back to the Future. | ||
| And it's a video, I'll show it to you afterwards because it's not public. | ||
| And I'm saying one day, this is 2011, I have Doc's here, I'm wearing the whole thing, this event we're running, I brought the DeLorean, I'm doing a whole skit from stage with myself and a couple of our guys, John, Fred Terras and all these guys. | ||
| We're doing what we're doing. | ||
| I said, one day, 2011, I haven't even started a YouTube channel yet. | ||
| And I said, one day, the great Kobe Bryant will be on our show and we'll be having an interview and da-da-da-da-da. | ||
| So that vision was casted eight years later. | ||
| Kobe's at the event. | ||
| Our guys can't believe this is happening. | ||
| And he comes in. | ||
| Hour and a half we spent in a conference room together before he hits the stage. | ||
| He talks to Dylan for 15 minutes. | ||
| Dylan at the time was 5 years old. | ||
| He talks to Jen for 15 minutes. | ||
| They have the best conversation together. | ||
| Then a 70-year-old woman, 75-year-old woman comes in, very nicely put together, and he runs up to her. | ||
| They hug each other and they have the nicest conversation where you can tell the level of respect and love he has for her. | ||
| I don't know who she was, but there was a certain level of relationship towards each other. | ||
| And he says, so? | ||
| Pat, do these types of interviews live make you nervous? | ||
| I said, nah, I'm good. | ||
| He said, nah, me neither. | ||
| I played in front of 20,000 people. | ||
| I said, nah, I totally get it. | ||
| I mean, you're Kobe. | ||
| I don't see you, but I'm good at this point. | ||
| Then we hit the stage. | ||
| A thousand people run up. | ||
| We had to call the security. | ||
| The benefit we had, because the president was coming, we had 100 secret service, so everything was pushing them out. | ||
| And we sat down, we did the interview. | ||
| And obviously the rest is history, but the day when he passed away, we were at Seasons 52 in Dallas, in Plano. | ||
| And my phone says Kobe Bryant helicopter. | ||
| Jennifer looks at CNN like, what? | ||
| Then I go to ESPN. | ||
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What? | |
| Twitter. | ||
| Because you know, sometimes these hoaxes are not funny. | ||
| And then Dylan is like, wait, my friend, Kobe? | ||
| So, yeah, I mean, I was pretty wild. | ||
| But you know what it is, what you're saying here? | ||
| That's the whole concept where you have to enjoy the process, even when you're in the grind driving. | ||
| To know that at any point this can be taken away from you, just enjoy it. | ||
| Because in some ways, people take that message and say, that's why I don't work that hard. | ||
| Why is the purpose of working that hard? | ||
| If I know I'm going to die one day, why am I doing all this stuff? | ||
| That's also not the right way of thinking. | ||
| I want to work hard with the people I love, and using the talents that God gave me, but if he takes me today, I'm good as well, because at the end of the day, you have no clue what that day is going to be. | ||
| Do you consider yourself political? | ||
| Because we're crossing paths now a lot, and the type of people that are watching us are very similar in the political sense of things. | ||
| But I can never tell if you really are political. | ||
| Like, I saw you at the GOP debate. | ||
| That's a pretty political thing. | ||
| I go on your show, we talk about politics. | ||
| Wait, you didn't do the DeSantis thing yet, right? | ||
| It was scheduled, but then the hurricane hit also. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Because he was going to you and then he was coming to me that afternoon. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then the hurricane hit. | ||
| But obviously, you're political in the things that you talk about. | ||
| But do you consider yourself a political person? | ||
| What does a political person mean? | ||
| How would you define that? | ||
| Well, that you really like the game of politics. | ||
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Oh, I do. | |
| That you really like the, not like, you're passionate about the issues. | ||
| I actually am. | ||
| You really think about all of the issues. | ||
| I do. | ||
| My parents got a divorce, you know, so I watch these guys get two divorces and remarry each other twice, right? | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| My parents got married and divorced twice? | ||
| They got married, my sister's born, they get a divorce. | ||
| Two years later, they remarry, I'm born, then they get a divorce again. | ||
| And that was it, though? | ||
| They didn't get back together after that? | ||
| That was it. | ||
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Done. | |
| They can't. | ||
| If they're in the same room, they're going to resurrect the god. | ||
| You've got a movie on that one. | ||
| We're in your movie, people. | ||
| But my mother's side, a lot of them were communists. | ||
| And my dad said a lot of them were imperialist. | ||
| These guys loved the Shah. | ||
| They hated the Shah. | ||
| These guys, you know, loved capitalism. | ||
| They hated capitalism. | ||
| They loved Karl Marx. | ||
| That was their Bible. | ||
| Stalin, he was a great leader for Russia, USSR. | ||
| All these rich, greedy people in America, all they care about is money. | ||
| We care about family. | ||
| Why would you work that hard? | ||
| You should come home at 3 o'clock and have watermelon and cheese and cut it up and sit down and have a conversation together. | ||
| Who cares about the car you drive? | ||
| Who cares about this, this, this, this, that? | ||
| And I watched it, so for me, I didn't like politics because I saw the fact that the two people I love the most got a divorce because of politics. | ||
| Because that was really it. | ||
| It was deep down political. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| I mean, one of them, their philosophy was rich people are greedy and all they care about is money. | ||
| And the other one was poor people are lazy. | ||
| Like, you just can't get over that. | ||
| It's just like that. | ||
| And that was just ingrained. | ||
| But at that time, it wasn't politics. | ||
| It was more like, why did these guys, why'd you guys get married in the first place? | ||
| And thank God you did, but why'd you get married in the first place? | ||
| What was the whole purpose behind it? | ||
| So then I go to Germany and then we come to the States. | ||
| And when I come to the States, I go to the Army, and that was the first time where military stuff was going on, President Bush and Clinton and all this kind of stuff was going on. | ||
| And I'm like, interesting what's going on here. | ||
| Then I went into financial services and started competing, and then I realized politics is involved in insurance, Department of Insurance. | ||
| Politics is involved in being a cop, being a firefighter, running a business, regulation, financial industry, SEC, NASD. | ||
| It's involved everywhere. | ||
| And then when we were a small insurance company, politics doesn't do anything for you now, you're small, nobody cares who you are, you're tiny. | ||
| Then when we got bigger, and then all of a sudden we have a business that's national, we're appointed in 49 states, and we have offices all over the country, a few hundred offices, then you notice there's a lot of politics involved. | ||
| All the guys that were all nice to you, now they're like, you know, oh, you can build anything you want, you can be as big as you want, and then they're like, oh shit, he actually became as big as they wanted. | ||
| Now it's like you took business away from us and you're this and you're that. | ||
| I'm like, oh, so there is politics. | ||
| Then you go and you start studying. | ||
| I had dinner with George Will in 2009, March, with Claremont Institute, and I go to this event | ||
| and I watch what he's talking about with Larry Arnn and Larry Greenfield and all these guys. | ||
| And I'm going to these events with the owner of Public Storage at Malibu, | ||
| and I'm having these meetings with John Voigt and Dennis Prager is coming. | ||
| Then I launch a show in 2009 with KKLA, KRLA called Saving America. | ||
| A year later I shut it down because my San Francisco office closed down. | ||
| They said, I cannot believe you started a show and, you know, how dare you do this? | ||
| I'm like, wait a minute, what's going on with politics? | ||
| Then one day I'm in my office in Woodland Hills. | ||
| Yeah, who is this? | ||
| Yeah, you owe a tax assessor. | ||
| We're here. | ||
| You owe us $85,000. | ||
| I said, for what? | ||
| You're in the district. | ||
| You have to pay. | ||
| You're grown. | ||
| Your business is grown. | ||
| This is how much money you owe. | ||
| I said, what are you talking about? | ||
| I call my accountant who's downstairs under our floor, 8th floor. | ||
| I say, what is this all about? | ||
| He says, well, if they catch you and they're coming around, they knock on doors that are grown, it's hit and miss. | ||
| If they don't come to you, you don't have to pay it. | ||
| But if they come to you and they know you're a grown business, they can tax you. | ||
| You're in this district. | ||
| I said, are you serious? | ||
| So we have to pay this check. | ||
| Then I said, what districts don't they have this? | ||
| 13 of them. | ||
| Victorville, Santa Monica, Burbank, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I said, okay, I'm going to go to Burbank, Glendale. | ||
| So we move our headquarters to Burbank, Glendale, so I don't have to worry about this. | ||
| And we're in Glendale at the New York Life building. | ||
| And then all of a sudden I'm like, nope, we're not staying here. | ||
| Time Magazine comes out with the article, United States of Texas. | ||
| Then we go to Texas, we have a meeting with Governor Perry, with Mayor Masso from Frisco, it was the fastest growing city in Texas. | ||
| Then we go to a Rangers game with Nolan Ryan and we watch how these guys are recruiting businesses to Texas. | ||
| This is when Rick Perry would go to California, he would do radio shows, if you don't like the business, they're taking care of you, we're going to take care of you here in Texas. | ||
| And we're like, okay, great. | ||
| So then we moved to Texas, we fell in love with Texas. | ||
| And then COVID happens, politics goes to a whole different level. | ||
| My content was always around business, mafia, interviews. | ||
| It was not a political thing. | ||
| Then all of a sudden, politics becomes relevant on what we're doing with COVID. | ||
| And then I said, no, we're going to get involved. | ||
| So your politics were probably, you were kind of right-leaning in that you were probably for small government. | ||
| Less regulation, less taxes, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Then COVID hits. | ||
| That's what basically drove us both here. | ||
| I had a pretty freaking good life in LA. | ||
| And then on whatever that day was, March 17th or whatever it was, two weeks to stop the spread, day two. | ||
| I was like, this place is never coming back. | ||
| And you know, I fought very hard. | ||
| I campaigned with Larry Elder for the recall, and I don't know if I've told you this, you know that three days after the recall, you know what happened? | ||
| You talk about getting a knock on your door from the taxman? | ||
| I got audited by the state of California after I publicly was backing Larry Elder in campaigning. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| I put my house for sale that day, that day. | ||
| Like that tells you all you need to know. | ||
| So isn't that a weird thing about how your life better match up with your politics, | ||
| otherwise you're in a lot of trouble. | ||
| See, I have a problem with that because for me, and what I mean by I have a problem with that | ||
| is I have a problem with bullies. | ||
| So here's what's going on today. | ||
| Believe it or not, the majority will forgive people lying to them, the government lying to them. | ||
| They'll get over it, they'll cry about it, but they'll get over it. | ||
| The majority will even tolerate being taken advantage of. | ||
| If you think about it, it's been going on in America. | ||
| I can't believe you're doing it, you're not gonna do nothing about it. | ||
| You're gonna go back to your state in California You ain't leaving anyways. | ||
| You will tweet about it angrily for a minute. | ||
| But you're not going to do nothing. | ||
| There is no action. | ||
| It's just, yeah, watch what I'm going to do. | ||
| Oh yeah, I'm going to punch you in the face. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| And then you get back in your car and you leave. | ||
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Right? | |
| That's most people in California. | ||
| But here's the problem. | ||
| You crossed the line with kids. | ||
| Yeah, you just woke up an animal. | ||
| Because a mother went through 40 weeks. | ||
| So mother's automatic, most vested thing you're going to be in your life is carrying a human being for 40 weeks. | ||
| You haven't gone through the pain. | ||
| You want to groom my kids? | ||
| I'm good, man. | ||
| We're not going to do this. | ||
| All of a sudden, what the hell happened to this guy's rage? | ||
| I've never seen you be like this. | ||
| What happened to all these mothers? | ||
| What happened to all these parents? | ||
| California, UK, Texas, New York, they're waking up, so here's a part. | ||
| For most part, most people, there's a saying that says, whatever you don't hate, you'll learn to tolerate. | ||
| Most people just don't like it. | ||
| But a few of us have a lower tolerance level for you crossing the line. | ||
| I want you to continue, but what do you think that is about us? | ||
| Like now I know, now as a father, I know a new layer of it, but what do you think that is? | ||
| What do you think it is about you that is just like, I will be one of the people that will call out the bullshit? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know how to answer that question. | ||
| I would say for me, it's either in your DNA, it's either you've gone through losing things in the past, or you've had a moment in your life where you weren't paranoid and you lost it all and you're like, damn, I should have been paranoid, or you were too tolerant and Things were taken away from you or you were kind of like, | ||
| yeah, he's gonna be here all the time and then boom He's no longer he dies or she dies | ||
| So you have a different level of parent like when you read Musk's book you realize why he's doing what he's doing | ||
| because the pain He's gone through some of us have lived a harder life where | ||
| we you know We we are willing to use that pain to do something about it | ||
| but what I am saying is the fact that the So I used to pray for four things, right? | ||
| For the longest time, it's always been, as the David family, we lead, respect, we improve, we love. | ||
| We don't get bullied and we don't bully. | ||
| And we pray for four things, courage, wisdom, tolerance, understanding. | ||
| Courage, because if your vision is big, you're going to do something big, you're going to face certain things that you don't know how to handle, you need courage. | ||
| Wisdom, if you're planning on leading everybody, you're going to sometimes lead people smarter | ||
| than you and older than you, you need wisdom. | ||
| Tolerance because people are annoying at times. | ||
| You've got to tolerate them. | ||
| And last but not least, understanding. | ||
| Everyone's dealing with something, so it's good to have some understanding, right? | ||
| But the tolerance part, I'm not praying about it anymore. | ||
| I skipped through it. | ||
| I said, God, I ask you to give me courage, wisdom, and understanding. | ||
| I don't want tolerance. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| The reason why I don't want tolerance is because tomorrow I have a big show on PBT Podcast. | ||
| By the way, we've been working on this for months, and it got ugly, but we finally pulled it off. | ||
| I have two Muslims coming on the podcast, and I have two Christians coming on the podcast. | ||
| Till this morning, it wasn't happening. | ||
| Both camp, Baghdad and Baghdad, and we had to change some names because they couldn't get their passports, but we finally got them to be here tomorrow. | ||
| So we're doing this conversation together. | ||
| My goal is we can have a friendly conversation. | ||
| What do Jews, Christians and Muslims have in common? | ||
| That's my interest. | ||
| We can have the religion debate. | ||
| What about this with Christians, this and what about this, and what about this, and | ||
| what about this? | ||
| No problem. | ||
| What do Jews, Christians and Muslims have in common? | ||
| That's my interest. | ||
| We can have the religion debate. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Great. | ||
| By the way, everybody could be wrong and everybody could be right and only one person could be | ||
| And we don't know. | ||
| That's why it's called faith. | ||
| Faith is believing in something that we have not seen, right? | ||
| It's faith. | ||
| Now, I'm a man of faith. | ||
| I believe in God. | ||
| The risk I'm taking is being non-denominational Christian. | ||
| I could be wrong. | ||
| But that's what I'm banking on. | ||
| I will not know until I die. | ||
| Now there's been many moments in my life to validate that I've chosen the right faith, but that's one on one. | ||
| I can't simply tell my testimony, you can say, you know what, what a powerful testimony, let me consider it as well. | ||
| But it's one on one. | ||
| Look what's going on. | ||
| When I study numbers, I'm like, how are 74% of Muslims voting Democrat? | ||
| It makes no sense to me. | ||
| How? | ||
| How? | ||
| Why are Christians so critical of the Muslim religion, yet, just so you know, Christians, by 2060, The world is going to have 10 billion people, 3 billion is going to be Muslim, that's 31%, and most of the Senate and the House will be Muslims. | ||
| How could you say something like that? | ||
| Because they have 2.9 kids per woman and you don't. | ||
| Because they have more kids than you. | ||
| Because they're more vested in their faith and more intolerant about disrespecting their faith. | ||
| And Christians are more tolerant. | ||
| By the way, look what's happening in Glendale, the place that you used to work. | ||
| Armenians are not tolerant. | ||
| No, no, but the Muslims and Armenians of Glendale decided to stand up against the woke. | ||
| And I love that. | ||
| And the left didn't know what to do with it. | ||
| And I love that. | ||
| That's my whole purpose, the premise of what I'm trying to do with these guys tomorrow. | ||
| I trust it's going to be fiery, but I'm going to ask questions and I'm going to say, look, if religion is where you want to compete, then go have more kids. | ||
| You're not doing it. | ||
| You're going to lose. | ||
| Just so you know. | ||
| You're going to lose. | ||
| Because they don't tolerate disrespect to their religion. | ||
| You do. | ||
| They have more kids. | ||
| They believe in having more kids and spreading their values and principles. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| You're going to lose. | ||
| It's just going to happen if it goes this way. | ||
| Now, that's one part. | ||
| Set that aside. | ||
| What's the other part? | ||
| Muslims. | ||
| Why 74% Democrat? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Just because of one policy? | ||
| Just because of one policy? | ||
| What's the one policy? | ||
| Just because Republicans are a little bit more pro-Israel? | ||
| So you go this way? | ||
| Seriously? | ||
| That's the only reason? | ||
| Which, by the way, on the war front, the parties have completely flipped. | ||
| Completely flipped, right? | ||
| So I'm trying to get that. | ||
| I'm trying to get that conversation for them. | ||
| Are you on the same page with XYZ? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Are you pro-marriage? | ||
| Are you pro-family? | ||
| Are you pro-this? | ||
| Are you pro-that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Listen guys, what are we doing? | ||
| Because the scariest thing that's going to happen to globalists And the establishment, if all of a sudden they see Jews, Christians, and Muslims being on the same page, they're going to be like, wait a minute, guys. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You guys can't get along. | ||
| We've worked so hard to make sure you guys hate each other. | ||
| We have to keep these guys hating each other. | ||
| Spread a rumor. | ||
| Bring an old tweet. | ||
| Did you see what he said about Jews? | ||
| Did you see what he said about Muslims? | ||
| Did you see what he said about Christians? | ||
| And it's like, yeah, and stoke more fire, and that's why we can't like this guy. | ||
| I'm trying to get these guys because of Christians, Jews, and Christians. | ||
| Christians, Jews, and Muslims. | ||
| come like this, I think they're going to be shivering, saying, how the hell do we go up against these guys now? | ||
| Can I give you a good one that maybe you can drop with these guys tomorrow, is that I took my whole team, we did a week in Israel, and then we went to Hungary, and we went to Jerusalem, first four days in Jerusalem. | ||
| Guess what the most surprising thing about Jerusalem was to me? | ||
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What's that? | |
| It wasn't religion, obviously there's religious people. | ||
| It was the peace. | ||
| There are Muslim women in hijabs walking next to ultra-Orthodox Jewish guys. | ||
| Hats! | ||
| Muslim nurses going to school, and the Jews walking by, and Orthodox Christians, and Greek Orthodox, and everyone's doing it. | ||
| And yes, some bad stuff happens occasionally. | ||
| Find out what happened in Chicago this weekend, and it's far worse. | ||
| But the level of coexistence and peace, it felt peaceful to me. | ||
| That's what I kept saying to the guys. | ||
| Isn't this peaceful? | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Peaceful! | ||
| And that's the thing that you're basically asking for and looking for. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, I mean, look at our show, right? | ||
| I mean, you know, I'm talking to Chris Cuomo, and we're building a relationship together. | ||
| I'm not supposed to get along with Chris Cuomo for a lot of different things policy-wise. | ||
| But then I'm having conversations with... I've made fun of that guy an awful lot on this show. | ||
| I think we all have, and he's made fun of us. | ||
| And by the way, guess what? | ||
| Game! | ||
| You know, I'm OK with that. | ||
| I don't care if you make fun of me. | ||
| I'm OK. | ||
| Sometimes I deserve to be made fun of. | ||
| Sometimes you deserve to be made fun of. | ||
| Sometimes he deserves to be made fun of. | ||
| That's part of the game. | ||
| You know, when you're playing basketball, and Barkley elbows Jordan in the rib, and then Jordan does back. | ||
| Hey, you know what? | ||
| I'm a competitor, you are too, great. | ||
| Your goal should be to kick my ass. | ||
| And my goal is to give a fight. | ||
| Now Barkley never got a ring. | ||
| Jordan took it and the two years he had a chance, Elijah won't took it. | ||
| No problem, right? | ||
| That's right, I see that over there. | ||
| There was another guy on that team. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Drexler, a top 50 player of all time. | ||
| Yes, I would say top 50, top 20 of the 80s and 90s. | ||
| He's not top 20, I think he's top 15. | ||
| He's not top 20 of all time. | ||
| He's top 15, 80s and 90s, in my opinion. | ||
| That guy was a monster. | ||
| For 10 year period, I think he's top 15. | ||
| Monster, monster. | ||
| 28 point season average, you know, whatever. | ||
| So, going back to it, I think it's okay. | ||
| to grapple and fight. | ||
| I think it's okay. | ||
| Like, you know, one of the things we can learn from the UFC is these guys are talking shit to each other. | ||
| And at the end of the fight, they get on their knees and they hug each other, right? | ||
| Dude, you have to know for showmanship, Dana White needs a fight, | ||
| but he's okay if you want to hug after the fight. | ||
| But up until that point, he wants to fight. | ||
| We want the fight as fans. | ||
| We want you to hate each other up until the fight. | ||
| And then afterwards, guess what we all want to see? | ||
| As weird as this sounds, you love these guys. | ||
| I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that, I'm going to do this. | ||
| And then at the end of it, boom, head to head. | ||
| We get emotional. | ||
| Did you ever see, I haven't thought about this in 20 years, did you ever see, there was an interview that Mike Tyson did after one of his fights, he beats somebody senselessly, you know, at the peak of Tyson when he was just, six second fights, like, he beats someone senseless, I can't remember who it was, and remember Jim Gray was the NBC sports guy at the time, and they would just throw him out there, and Jim Gray was this little, like, little kind of frail white guy, and he'd get in the ring with all these big guys, and he looked afraid all the time, and he'd get there, and he'd be like, what do you think of the fight? | ||
| And Mike Tyson said exactly what you just said. | ||
| He said, he's got a family to feed. | ||
| I've got a family to feed. | ||
| This is what we do. | ||
| This is why we do it. | ||
| That's the part. | ||
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And Jim Gray is like, that's not the answer he wants. | |
| So, but guess what? | ||
| We don't want that answer before the fight. | ||
| We want it after the fight. | ||
| We're okay with that. | ||
| So, so for, for me, I wanted to create a safe space where people from the left, the right, the middle can come and talk. | ||
| People who are Democrats who don't want to talk politics, but they're sports. | ||
| They're TV, they're celebrities, they feel safe coming and talking. | ||
| People who are athletes, they feel safe coming and talking and doing what they're doing. | ||
| But it's like, you know what? | ||
| I don't agree with Pat, but you know, I like his approach. | ||
| I don't agree with such and such, but I like their approach. | ||
| Cool, no problem. | ||
| So it's more trying to go like this. | ||
| I think we've gone like that. | ||
| I think we need to bring. | ||
| So this book, one of the best books I've ever read that no one ever read. | ||
| The guy sold seven copies and I bought all seven of them. | ||
| This book is called Barbarians to Bureaucrats, written by Lawrence Miller. | ||
| I've probably, over the last 13 years, have probably sold 30,000 copies of this guy's book. | ||
| Every chance I get, I recommend this book, right? | ||
| It was written like, if you can get a copy, good for you. | ||
| It's hard to find one. | ||
| So, he talks about the evolution every society and company goes through, okay? | ||
| So, he says, you know, in every great business there's three people. | ||
| There's the entrepreneur, the businessman, and the son of a bitch. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And he explains how Steve Jobs had an element of a son of a bitch, but the other guy was more the product guy. | ||
| So, okay. | ||
| And he says, here's the evolution. | ||
| First, there's a prophet. | ||
| The prophet sells a vision. | ||
| Like that Jack Ma video, we're going to build Alibaba, you've seen that video, right? | ||
| One day, he's the prophet, Steve Jobs, one day we are different, right? | ||
| It's Matt Damon in air, which I know you're big on in the movie Air. | ||
| Sonny Vaccaro, right? | ||
| Hey, Michael, no one's going to remember us, they're going to remember you, but you're going to go through just like you go up, you're going to fall, and we're going to be here for you. | ||
| What a freaking speech, right, when he gave me that movie. | ||
| I got the chills. | ||
| I watched the movie three times in the first week. | ||
| You took your whole team to that, right? | ||
| Twice. | ||
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Twice. | |
| It was powerful. | ||
| I saw it after you were so high on it. | ||
| And by the way, the day after that, when Tucker, because the movie came out when Tucker was | ||
| fired from Fox, we sent one of our guys, and he was outside of Tucker's house, I can say | ||
| now, for three days, dropping a note saying, PVD Invite, Tim wants to make an offer to | ||
| you. | ||
| And you did make an offer. | ||
| We 100% made an offer to him. | ||
| We made a public offer, every kind of offer. | ||
| But it is what it is. | ||
| He's doing a great job right now. | ||
| He's a formidable voice, very necessary voice. | ||
| So the point is, he says, first there's a prophet, then there's the barbarian, who's | ||
| the guy that's willing to go do the fight. | ||
| Then there's the builder and explorer. | ||
| They build technology or they explore a new market. | ||
| Then there's the administrator. | ||
| Then comes the next phase, which is a problematic phase. | ||
| So, prophet, barbarian, builder, explorer, administrator, bureaucrat, aristocrat. | ||
| America today is filled with bureaucrats and aristocrats. | ||
| Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| These guys that have been around for so long, they don't want to give up their card of being a congressman or a senator. | ||
| Dirty aristocrats and bureaucrats that are ruining America. | ||
| But he says the way you save it, when it's about to fall, is it needs synergists. | ||
| Synergists know how to revive, reenergize a nation, a company. | ||
| America today desperately needs more synergists. | ||
| Synergists are not about saying, you're a moron, you're an idiot, what a dumbass, what a stupidist. | ||
| Synergists are saying, I disagree. | ||
| Are you amazed that these guys are holding on as long as they're holding on? | ||
| When you see last week, Pelosi, I'm running again. | ||
| doing with it soon on PBD Podcast, we're trying to bring these guys here. | ||
| If you guys disagree, cool, let's talk about it. | ||
| Great. | ||
| That's kind of what the approach we're taking. | ||
| Are you amazed that these guys are holding on as long as they're holding on? | ||
| When you see last week, Pelosi, I'm running again. | ||
| Mitch McConnell literally freezing up in front of microphones. | ||
| Feinstein doesn't know where she is. | ||
| They have to tell her what to say. | ||
| Biden, obviously something's wrong. | ||
| Fetterman, I mean, the list goes on and on and on. | ||
| And that's across party lines, by the way. | ||
| Like, are you amazed that it's just? | ||
| Or it's just that's kind of the point. | ||
| I'm not surprised. | ||
| I mean, look at this, you know, a lot of times when, you know, the establishment of sports wants to criticize the current players, right? | ||
| And they defend themselves from the past because it's easy to do that and they never want to give credit to the newer guys, right? | ||
| That one video of Elon Musk crying when he's doing a 60-minute interview and he's like, hey, does it hurt you the fact that these men were your heroes and now they're criticizing you? | ||
| I don't know if you've ever seen this or not. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| You have to watch this. | ||
| This is when Tesla's like barely coming up. | ||
| Every day is being criticized. | ||
| And he's crying. | ||
| So does it hurt you that these are men you respect and you admire? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It hurts a lot. | ||
| That they're saying what they're saying about you? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then you're like, dude, look what he's built. | ||
| Look what he's doing, right? | ||
| So for me, I think I'm not surprised that that's taking place, but we need changes and we need some bold leaders to have the audacity to go out there and do the fight. | ||
| And they're gonna rise up, Dave. | ||
| They're going to rise up. | ||
| So that's actually a great segue to a little of the Trump-DeSantis thing that I wanted to do with you because you've mentioned, you mentioned before, DeSantis, they've moved it on you a couple of times. | ||
| I have no doubt it's gonna happen. | ||
| You've met him privately. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| My sense with you and DeSantis is that you like him a lot on policies. | ||
| You moved here because of Florida. | ||
| You seem to think he has some kind of marketing thing, and I think that's probably right. | ||
| I think that's probably right. | ||
| Trump is a brilliant marketer, and it's kind of messy below the hood. | ||
| And DeSantis, the policies are below the hood, it's all great, but there's a marketing issue there. | ||
| Is that what you're seeing? | ||
| Is that kind of like a rough estimation of kind of where you're at? | ||
| Well, first of all, I made DeSantis first on thanks to you. | ||
| You sent the invite and I was in Dallas. | ||
| I came, I wanna make sure people know to give you the credit. | ||
| So I was in Dallas, I got on, I came visit and then boom, we flew back to Dallas. | ||
| I had an event going on in Dallas, if you remember that. | ||
| So yeah, so I mean, look, the other day I had Larry Elder on which you and I both have a lot of respect for Larry | ||
| and what he's done, right? | ||
| And Candace Owens was on same week, Elder and then Candace. | ||
| I asked Larry, I said, Larry, do you think the profile of picking a candidate for president has changed? | ||
| I don't think it's changed. | ||
| I said, do you think maybe you're wrong? | ||
| No. | ||
| You don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| And we kind of got into a little. | ||
| It was a friend in our show. | ||
| Even if I agree with you, I want a little bit of banter. | ||
| How did you mean that question? | ||
| Here's what I meant by it. | ||
| Here's what I mean. | ||
| You know how in 1964, whatever the year was when, was it 60? | ||
| I think it was 60 or 64, one of those where Nixon didn't shave and it was the first TV | ||
| debate ever. | ||
| The sweaty one. | ||
| It's got to be that 60. | ||
| So Nixon didn't sleep, he had a 4 o'clock shave, and John F. Kennedy went tanning, he slept 10 hours that night, had a good meal, looked good, calm, came, crushed it, right? | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| It changed. | ||
| It went from needing a voice, because everybody's like, Listen to the radio, to now, radio in your face, oh my God, he looks, Nixon, right? | ||
| Who's probably more qualified to be president? | ||
| Nixon. | ||
| Nixon was more qualified to be president, but he lost, because the game changed. | ||
| So America wanted to see somebody that was young, eccentric, attractive, well-spoken, calm, you know, carried himself very well. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Versus then, if you go back and study what percentage of the campaign they funded, the top people that put the most money in their campaign, Trump is at the top, I believe. | ||
| Then I want to say it's John F. Kennedy. | ||
| His dad said he would spend all the money he has to do the campaign. | ||
| He ended up spending like 40% of the entire campaign with his own money. | ||
| Reagan spent like 9% or 7%. | ||
| You know, obviously Al Gore, not Al Gore, Ross Perot spent a lot of his own money, whatever, 50%. | ||
| Hillary Clinton, 0% of her own money. | ||
| Biden, 0% of his money. | ||
| And Obama, pretty much these three, it's 0% of their own money. | ||
| Those that are zero, they're establishment. | ||
| Okay, that spends 0% of their money because they owe the most favors. | ||
| Okay, so today's profile to be a president. | ||
| Let's take a look. | ||
| Number one, America, we are very close to the majority not wanting a pro-establishment candidate. | ||
| So to be an anti-establishment candidate, you need to have a few money. | ||
| That's number one. | ||
| Bloomberg had a few money, more than any other candidate that ever ran. | ||
| What was he missing? | ||
| Charm. | ||
| Okay, so you need to be able to persuade and charm. | ||
| He couldn't do it. | ||
| Can I tell you something quick about Bloomberg? | ||
| Which is that I, and I said this to Trump the night that I met Trump. | ||
| That I believed from day one and I really think I'm right that Bloomberg only ran as a decoy for Biden. | ||
| That Biden was number one at the time and they needed Biden to get through the debates and they knew he couldn't debate and he was crumbling and all that and they needed to deflect so they threw Bloomberg up there. | ||
| He willingly did it. | ||
| Because you remember those two debates that he was in? | ||
| But it was all about whether he sexually harassed a secretary, and that's what they spent the entire debate. | ||
| So instead of Biden having to defend himself, I truly believe that. | ||
| You know what Trump said to me when I said it? | ||
| Trump goes, he goes like this, he goes, he goes, ah, you know, actually, that's pretty good. | ||
| And then he turns to Melania, he says, Melania, can you tell him, he says to me, he says, can you tell her, tell the first lady what you just said? | ||
| I said it to Melania, and she kind of nods, and then he goes, ah, Bloomberg just hates me. | ||
| But I really think there was something to that. | ||
| But yes, he was deficient regardless. | ||
| He was deficient of the stuff. | ||
| So if you look at the golf score, you got a few money, which causes you to not be pro-establishment. | ||
| This is why Vivek is getting some momentum right now. | ||
| This is why RFK is getting momentum right now. | ||
| This is why Trump won in 2016. | ||
| This is why Ross Perot got the kind of numbers that he got that caused George Bush Sr. | ||
| to lose and Clinton to win. | ||
| This is why Reagan did well. | ||
| This is why JFK did well. | ||
| Anyways, I can go on. | ||
| You get the idea, right? | ||
| So you need charm, then you need to be able to have a run rate of having fame or influence. | ||
| So Vivek, a year ago, nobody knew who Vivek was. | ||
| Some people in our space knew, but most people didn't know who Vivek was a year ago, right? | ||
| So he started late. | ||
| Vivek is going to be a formidable candidate in 2028. | ||
| He's going to be because he's going to continue whatever he does next. | ||
| He's going to be having 10 times the amount of followers. | ||
| He's going to write a couple more books. | ||
| He's going to do this, he's going to do that. | ||
| He's going to be ready for 2027, 2028. | ||
| Ok, formidable candidate. | ||
| What's the next one? | ||
| So we've got F.U. money, we've got charm, we've got, you know, run rate of being famous, | ||
| ok, that people know who you are. | ||
| Then policies, ok, policies. | ||
| If you take policies, who do we put at the top with policies? | ||
| Trump? | ||
| Do we put DeSantis, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley? | ||
| Who do we put at the top? | ||
| I think DeSantis could go against anybody with policies, hands down. | ||
| I mean, listen, his record is the best when it comes out to Florida. | ||
| That's why you and I are here. | ||
| At the end of the day, where do people come and where do people go? | ||
| No question about it. | ||
| That's the record. | ||
| And then the last one is, that I added to the list, was being able to create an issue that no one's thinking about. | ||
| And let me explain what I mean by this. | ||
| And I'm presenting this to Larry Elder, and he's saying, oh, you don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| And by the way, I may be wrong. | ||
| I may be wrong, right? | ||
| What does this mean, coming up with an issue that no one's thinking about? | ||
| We've got to build a wall. | ||
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| We've got to build a wall to keep these rapists and all this. | ||
| What the hell is he talking about, we've got to build a wall? | ||
| I'm going to build a wall and I'm going to make Mexico pay for it. | ||
| Dude, this just got even crazier now. | ||
| When are you going to build a wall? | ||
| Mexico's going to pay for the wall. | ||
| Like, you know, you sit there and you're like, alright, let me see, what are we going to campaign on? | ||
| Healthcare, you know, military foreign policy, the war, or taxes, or economies. | ||
| No, we're going to build a wall and Mexico's going to pay for it. | ||
| No one's even thinking about that, right? | ||
| So, the average candidate that runs, they hire some bullshit, you know, political consultant, and here's what's resonating with the audience, and here's what you've got to do. | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
| So, I think some of these guys just listen to those consultants too much and it screws the whole thing up. | ||
| So that's your criticism of DeSantis, that he's listened to these guys too much because the policy you obviously think is right. | ||
| Oh, you kidding me? | ||
| Listen, let's put him in a room with no cameras and talk policies. | ||
| You know what he's going to do? | ||
| You know what he's going to do? | ||
| I've done it. | ||
| I've done it. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| I watched Newsom the other day on CNN. | ||
| I don't know if you watch it. | ||
| 32 minutes. | ||
| I watched it. | ||
| We played a portion of it. | ||
| It's a clinic. | ||
| He did a clinic. | ||
| He's so fucking evil. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| He's evil. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| Say he's evil. | ||
| He is evil. | ||
| But forget about that. | ||
| What I'm trying to tell you is I don't care if he is. | ||
| I accept that. | ||
| He did a clinic. | ||
| The average person who doesn't follow what the hell is going on, they're going to say, this guy's presidential. | ||
| He sits like this. | ||
| Just watch how he sits. | ||
| He sits like this. | ||
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No, I get it. | |
| At the end he says, so, are you going to run for office? | ||
| Oh no, why would I run for office? | ||
| Do you realize just two years ago they recalled me talking about being humble? | ||
| That's the kind of stuff that, you know, is attractive to the average person, not the person that's the policy wonk. | ||
| So in a way, do you think we will always just get what we deserve in a weird way? | ||
| Because you're basically saying there are people who are good enough to do it, who would do it right, who would lead to a more prosperous society. | ||
| Here's what I would be doing. | ||
| And then there's a show. | ||
| And how do we arbitrage those two things? | ||
| If I'm running the RNC, I'm the guy. | ||
| I'm the guy that's running the RNC. | ||
| I wouldn't take this job, but I'm the guy that's running the RNC, okay? | ||
| They don't pay that much. | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| Here's what I would do, okay? | ||
| One of the only speakers I've ever brought to an event three times is Billy Beane from Moneyball. | ||
| He changed the game. | ||
| He won 21 games in a row. | ||
| Brad Pitt played the whole movie. | ||
| Jonah Hill plays the guy that says the most important statistic is not a home run. | ||
| It's on-base percentages. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| No, don't trade him. | ||
| Yeah, get that guy. | ||
| Why that guy? | ||
| 380 on base percentage. | ||
| 410 on base percentage. | ||
| What? | ||
| He doesn't hit that well. | ||
| On base percentage. | ||
| He knows how to get walked. | ||
| He keeps his elbow in. | ||
| He gets hit. | ||
| What the hell does an elbow have to do with it? | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| The only goal is to get on base, right? | ||
| I would bring in 20 analysts and I would spend millions of dollars and I would tell them, | ||
| put a golf score, put a list of 40 reasons why somebody becomes a president of the last | ||
| 50 years after TV and now let's do after social media because those are two different eras, | ||
| right? | ||
| So what caused this guy to win and that guy to lose? | ||
| What was the mistake? | ||
| Some of it's going to be war campaigning going out there like Hillary Clinton just stopped | ||
| campaigning. | ||
| Trump was doing six rallies a day. | ||
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She's right, those last four days she did nothing, he was out there. | |
| But Trump was campaigning six rallies a day during Biden and he wasn't doing any, but | ||
| it was a different story. | ||
| That was a whole different game. | ||
| We're not going to get into that. | ||
| You understand what I'm saying with that part? | ||
| That was a... | ||
| You know, a black swan event that took place, which is not something that's consistent. | ||
| So I would take this golf score and I would keep eliminating the bottom 10. | ||
| So we start off with 40 different things that we'd look at. | ||
| Statistics. | ||
| Eliminate the bottom 10. | ||
| Eliminate the bottom 20. | ||
| Eliminate the bottom 30. | ||
| Then I got the top 10. | ||
| Now I want to see what is the most important reason why somebody gets elected. | ||
| Then I take the top 5. | ||
| Then what I do from running RNC, I go and I ask my guys. | ||
| Now this is a completely different job. | ||
| I'm going to ask my recruiters to say, I want you to give me a list of 50 names that meets these 5 criteria with a score. | ||
| So run a golf score on 1000 people that could be potential presidents. | ||
| Put Dave Rubin on that list. | ||
| Put Tucker Carlson on that list. | ||
| Put Ben Shapiro on that list. | ||
| Put Charlie Kirk on that list. | ||
| Put all these guys on that list and run a golf score. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| I want to go talk to those 20 guys. | ||
| Schedule time with them to come and talk to us. | ||
| They'll come and sit down and talk to me. | ||
| I think you ought to consider running for office. | ||
| You're out of your mind. | ||
| I'll never do it. | ||
| Totally get it. | ||
| Can I show you something? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Here's the data I got here for you. | ||
| Do you love America? | ||
| I do. | ||
| How much do you love America? | ||
| You okay if America becomes a shit show? | ||
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No. | |
| How much are you okay with it? | ||
| Are you a tolerant person? | ||
| Are you willing to fight for it? | ||
| I am. | ||
| I think you need to run 2028. | ||
| What are you talking about, Pat? | ||
| I think if you love America, you've got to run. | ||
| There's no way I'm going to run. | ||
| You actually have a shot. | ||
| You're one of the only 20 people in America that has a shot. | ||
| And my goal is to get the best top 20 formidable guys running for being a president. | ||
| You're on that list. | ||
| I'm going to recruit, so it's no longer who they choose to run, who we've got to recruit. | ||
| We're just getting our options. | ||
| These are our best? | ||
| Shit! | ||
| Here we go! | ||
| Instead, I'm going to say no. | ||
| Man, by the way, I'm not taking anything away from Tim Scott. | ||
| I think he's a sweetheart. | ||
| I'm not taking anything away from Nikki Haley. | ||
| I thought she showed up to the debate. | ||
| I'm not taking anything away from Ron or Vivek or what they're doing. | ||
| But I believe we need to run it this way, then we go sell the right guys into running. | ||
| I don't think that's happening today. | ||
| What do you do with the lies on both sides related to all of this? | ||
| Because look, I supported Trump. | ||
| I've interviewed Trump. | ||
| I like Trump in a lot of ways. | ||
| And I will vote for him if he's running against the Democrats. | ||
| So my cards are on the table. | ||
| The lies about Florida, the lies about COVID. | ||
| I could go on and on. | ||
| The lies about Fauci and all that stuff. | ||
| What do you do with that? | ||
| You are someone that cares about truth. | ||
| You've mentioned your faith several times. | ||
| Like, what do you do about that? | ||
| Because I think a lot of people are struggling with that right now. | ||
| They're seeing the lies and they're having trouble kind of connecting that to the rest of their life or their ethos. | ||
| And I understand that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Here's what I've learned. | ||
| The more you study history, and whether you like this or not, you can rip this argument apart as much as you want, some of the best people that fought for our freedom were complicated human beings. | ||
| Period. | ||
| Misunderstood, complicated, complex personalities, weird upbringing, difficult to be around, strange people, weird habits, weird obsessions, strange vices, just Purely complex people who saved the world. | ||
| These are very weird people. | ||
| Then you can look at the people that were proper people, the people you like, the people that all the things you and I value, that what a sweet man, what a this, what a that. | ||
| They don't have the dog fight. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| History doesn't favor perfection. | ||
| The people that go out there and are willing to do the fight, they're not going to fit the profile that everybody is looking for. | ||
| Is Donald Trump one of the most complicated, complex, strange people? | ||
| You support him one day and the next day you're like, what are you talking about? | ||
| She asked you a basic question. | ||
| Do you know the difference? | ||
| Can a man be a woman? | ||
| Can a woman? | ||
| Just say it. | ||
| Why are you taking five seconds to answer the question? | ||
| Just say it. | ||
| But you don't know why he's doing that. | ||
| Is he playing with her? | ||
| Is he playing with the audience? | ||
| Did he just have a meeting 30 minutes before making Kelly with his five people that are | ||
| trying to figure out a way to give a new messaging because he's losing 3% of the vote? | ||
| You don't know what he's thinking, but what you do know is everything he's doing is intentional. | ||
| He doesn't wink. | ||
| He's not a winger. | ||
| He is a guy that will say, wait till you see what we're going to do, wait till you see, | ||
| wait till you see. | ||
| Wait till you see is kind of like a salesperson. | ||
| Wait till you see, wait till you see. | ||
| Part of that is a visionary driver, future truth, totally get that. | ||
| But he is also a guy that's kind of watching everything and sizing everything up and he's | ||
| taking risks here. | ||
| Then he adjusts. | ||
| That message didn't work. | ||
| Let me change this. | ||
| Or that message worked. | ||
| It's pissing off the right people. | ||
| Let me poke on this guy. | ||
| But to me, we're not going to get who we're like, aspiring to get this perfect candidate. | ||
| It's just not going to happen. | ||
| So since Trump has chosen an awful lot of enemies, I really like what we've done with this shot. | ||
| Can we go to PBD's one shot? | ||
| One shot. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| We get the book right in there. | ||
| That's very nice. | ||
| Choose your enemies wisely. | ||
| Who are your enemies these days? | ||
| I got a long list of them. | ||
| I got a long list of them. | ||
| For me, you know, a part of it is, you know, what people are doing to the greatest country in the world that changed my life. | ||
| I'm going to do my part with the fight against them, the establishment in a big way, those that are targeting kids to confuse kids. | ||
| I've got four of them now. | ||
| It's a very formidable opponent. | ||
| How much of that is happening? | ||
| I mean, you're here in Florida. | ||
| I'm sure your kids are going to grade schools and all that, but is it like just stuck in the culture that it even has to come up for your kids, who are obviously insulated from I'm still running an insurance company in 49 states and we | ||
| have 46,000 agents and 15,000 of them are active right now. | ||
| So I get all the news from all these different states on what's going on. | ||
| They call me and I'm talking to them. | ||
| So we have people on the ground that are experiencing this in California, in Riverside. | ||
| And then for me, I think in the media space, I got a lot of enemies in the media space. | ||
| I'm not OK with that part. | ||
| And then for me, I think in the media space, I got a lot of enemies in the media space. | ||
| And, you know, some of these enemies are making big mistakes. | ||
| Some of them, you're just seeing that they're in it for only money. | ||
| And I think that's a big mistake. | ||
| They haven't made money yet. | ||
| They've made a few million, but they've not made money money. | ||
| So they're kind of like looking for their first hundred million or first two hundred million. | ||
| And I understand that. | ||
| You've got to go through making that first million, then first ten, then first hundred, and then maybe you go add the additional zero and two additional zeros. | ||
| Then you have the ESG community. | ||
| There's Larry Fink, there's Wall Street, State Guard, Vanguard, Soros. | ||
| He's giving the fund back to his son and he's running it now. | ||
| I think his name is Alex, 38, 39 years old. | ||
| He's very close to Bill Gates. | ||
| By the way, good move for Gavin. | ||
| He's going to need that guy's money. | ||
| This Open Society Foundation that Soros has given $32 billion to the last 30 years or so, that's a very powerful non-profit organization, Open Society. | ||
| You've got to watch these guys. | ||
| So then you've got Hollywood and what they're doing, so we've got to find a way to make movies to compete against Hollywood and what they've got going on, but there's a lot of enemies. | ||
| You know, you have to be very intentional in choosing the right enemies. | ||
| The wrong enemies bring out the worst in you. | ||
| For example, let me give an example. | ||
| Women who chose the feminist movement, they chose the wrong enemy. | ||
| Men are not the enemy. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| How many 65-year-olds today who are single with no kids are coming out saying, I made the biggest mistake of my life? | ||
| What did they do? | ||
| They chose the wrong enemy. | ||
| Men were never the enemy. | ||
| Christians, Muslims and Jews. | ||
| They're choosing each other as the enemy? | ||
| None of you guys know for a fact. | ||
| You've not died and come back. | ||
| You've never met Jesus or Abraham or Mohammed. | ||
| You pray to it. | ||
| We all pray to it. | ||
| So, what are the enemies that we all see today? | ||
| Values and principles that are being fought. | ||
| Would you realize that Christians are thinking Muslims are the enemy, Muslims are thinking Christians are the enemy? | ||
| They're not the enemy. | ||
| It's the establishment and globalists that are pinning against each other. | ||
| We're choosing the wrong enemy. | ||
| We have completely, most of us, missed the mark on choosing the wrong enemy and it's destroyed people's lives. | ||
| We've lost decades of our lives. | ||
| Some years, some decades, some of their entire life it's gone with. | ||
| So, you know, the reason why I wrote this book was more for people to realize that we all make the mistake. | ||
| You know, sometimes you're like, I'm going to do it to prove that guy wrong. | ||
| That guy doesn't bring out the best in you, but the other guy does. | ||
| But the other thing does, or the other institution does. | ||
| So for us, we got enough of the right enemies right now where the driver, what we wanted, again, God willing, if God keeps me around for 40 years, oh my God, and we're healthy. | ||
| What does that get you to? | ||
| That gets you to 84? | ||
| 84, yeah. | ||
| That's the number for you? | ||
| I'll go to 100, but he dictates. | ||
| I'm going to do my part. | ||
| I'm trying to take care of my health right now the last few years. | ||
| I've lost 4 inches of my waist. | ||
| There's a few things I did 4 years ago in July. | ||
| I stopped drinking soda. | ||
| I don't drink soda at all. | ||
| And then, you know, a few months ago, I don't eat breakfast except for Sundays. | ||
| And breakfast is my favorite meal. | ||
| I don't do breakfast anymore. | ||
| I just skip breakfast 6 days a week. | ||
| So I'm at a weight where it's 235, 238 is my weight at my height. | ||
| I was at 258, 260, which you wouldn't tell if I'm 260, you know, because I'm a little bit taller, so it's kind of going to stretch. | ||
| But at 235, 237, I'm good. | ||
| I have the right people around me that are trying to take care of my health and all that stuff. | ||
| But at the same time, look, God can also say, you think too much of yourself, man. | ||
| Who do you think you are, man? | ||
| Do you think we need you? | ||
| You're going to be okay. | ||
| Come up here and have them go clean a cloud. | ||
| Who do you think you are? | ||
| And I'm okay with that. | ||
| How much does that worry you, though? | ||
| Because I will tell you this, something that I've been thinking about lately, like, again, I have the things that I want right now, and I have had a thought lately that I've never had before, which is, I have, like, it seems to me like the shoe has to drop at some point. | ||
| Like, if you have the things that you want, if you're living the life you're supposed to be living, like, that doesn't last for very long, right? | ||
| Like, something always is gonna happen. | ||
| You know, a death in the family, whatever it might be. | ||
| I've been thinking about my dad dying since I was 18 years old when I joined the army because my biggest goal in life when I was six, when my teacher asked me, what do you want to be when you grow up? | ||
| I said, I want to be a dad because I wanted to be him. | ||
| He's a great father, very good father. | ||
| I wouldn't be who I am right now if it wasn't for him. | ||
| He lives with me and I'm the happiest now that he's in my house. | ||
| My kids see him. | ||
| My dream was for my kids to meet him. | ||
| I met him. | ||
| I met him at your house. | ||
| I didn't realize he was living there. | ||
| My dream was for my kids to know this man because I never met his father, right? | ||
| So I wanted them to have an experience with this. | ||
| You know, but I know I'm going to get a phone call one day. | ||
| You know, we're going out to a nice, my son's birthday is coming up, so we're going to the Yankee Stadium. | ||
| It's going to be the first time we're going as Yankees. | ||
| We'll wrap with this, because that's a cool thing. | ||
| First time we're going there, so we're going to go there and take him to the game and go | ||
| to the Jets game, Patriots game, and all this stuff that we're doing. | ||
| He can't go. | ||
| He just told me yesterday, I can't go. | ||
| I said, what do you mean you can't go? | ||
| Right? | ||
| We're just talking about this. | ||
| Today he's trying to convince me to convince my dad. | ||
| He said, I can't go. | ||
| I said, if we go, I'm not feeling good. | ||
| He was in the hospital for five days a couple weeks ago. | ||
| He's 81. | ||
| He's had 13 heart attacks. | ||
| He drank and smoked for 35 years. | ||
| He smoked two packs a day for 35 years. | ||
| You know, 30 years until he had his heart attack. | ||
| So the fact that he's still here, super lucky. | ||
| Of course I'm greedy. | ||
| I'd love to see him go to 100, but I have perspective. | ||
| And you know, a long time ago I realized when I would debate as an atheist, I was an atheist | ||
| for 25 years, and then I eventually realized. | ||
| Hey, PBD, the bigger your vision, man, the more you need as much support as possible, and God's going to be your biggest support when you're alone and nobody believes in your vision. | ||
| You're going to need to talk to somebody that's going to make sense of this vision of yours. | ||
| You better get close to the man upstairs. | ||
| So, a lot of things that I'm never going to have the answer for, I have to rely on a source that's bigger than me, and that's the only thing I can give my faith and comfort in. | ||
| I'm going to cry. | ||
| I'm going to be in pain. | ||
| I'm going to be emotional. | ||
| I'm going to have to go to a lot of walks by myself and kind of break down and go through it. | ||
| But, you know, the grace that he's given me, man, you have no idea how big of a role that the man upstairs plays in my life. | ||
| So, the reason why I'm saying this is, I fear those things are going to happen, but the way I know I'm going to go through it is the one source. | ||
| It's the only way I can go through it. | ||
| Only way I can go through it. | ||
| We should probably end there, except you mentioned the Yankees. | ||
| And you are now a minority owner of the Yankees, which when I saw you tweet about that, I was like, that's basically the coolest thing I've ever heard. | ||
| Lifelong Yankees fan. | ||
| I saw Jeter just a couple weeks ago in West Palm, had a great conversation with him. | ||
| The guy couldn't have been nicer. | ||
| And June 26th is both of our birthdays. | ||
| So for many of my birthdays, I used to go to Yankee Stadium on our birthday and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| But you're a minority owner of the Yankees, which, I mean, is that just like... That's basically as good as it gets, right? | ||
| So wait, does that mean you're in the owner's... Are you in the owner's box? | ||
| There's one owner's box for all the guys that are the owners. | ||
| And you're just in it. | ||
| By the way, the Steinbrenner's owner's box that they built, it's ridiculous when you go to it. | ||
| I mean, when it happened, you know, get a call from a guy, he says, hey, I know you want to be an owner of a team. | ||
| Have you heard of the Yankees? | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, two years ago. | ||
| He's like, I said, yeah, what teams do you have? | ||
| Because I'm only interested in a handful of teams. | ||
| And so I got, you know, the Memphis Grizzlies. | ||
| I got this. | ||
| I said, yeah, it's cool, but no. | ||
| Who are you interested in? | ||
| I said, well, I would say Yankees at the top and, you know, the Lakers, probably post LeBron, but I would say the Lakers will be second. | ||
| I'm not interested in the Lakers today, but those are the two teams. | ||
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Great. | |
| It's just not going to happen because those things rarely open up. | ||
| Well, one of the guys apparently was 80, 81 years old and he's at a phase where he's like | ||
| he wants to sell his shares. | ||
| And I get a call, you need to sign an NDA. | ||
| For what? | ||
| Just trust me, you need to sign an NDA. | ||
| I sign the NDA, he comes back and says, there's an opening. | ||
| I said, you've got to be kidding me. | ||
| He says, no. | ||
| But you've got to go through a background check. | ||
| This thing's going to take 12, 13 months. | ||
| So then I applied. | ||
| Interviewed with all the Yankees folks. | ||
| Then MLB did a background check on us. | ||
| God knows how long that took. | ||
| Then eventually I'm like, listen, this thing's done. | ||
| It's just not going to happen. | ||
| I'm too loud. | ||
| They're not going to hire me. | ||
| They're not going to allow me to come in, etc., etc. | ||
| He says, well, guess what? | ||
| The Yankees owners want to meet you in New York. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I flew out to New York. | ||
| I sat in a room. | ||
| Randy Levine. | ||
| You got Tony here, the CFO of YGE. | ||
| You got Noel here, the COO who's been with them since 1974, 1964. | ||
| And then Hal Steinborn over here. | ||
| I said, you sure you guys are comfortable with me? | ||
| I said, because I'm not ESG, I'm not this, I'm not that, I'm not this. | ||
| You actually said that. | ||
| Word for word. | ||
| I told him everything. | ||
| I said, and I'm just getting started. | ||
| So you need to understand, you're going to be forced to tell me to sell my shares, and I'm telling you, I'm not going to be quiet. | ||
| It's the only thing you guys got to know. | ||
| He said, we don't care where you are. | ||
| Totally fine with us. | ||
| We're comfortable with that. | ||
| But we have one rule. | ||
| I said, what's that rule? | ||
| He said, house the boss. | ||
| We don't want your opinion. | ||
| The only time we want your opinion is if we ask for it. | ||
| And I look at him, he says, I'm the boss. | ||
| I said, how? | ||
| You're the boss. | ||
| So I left, and we were in Bermuda celebrating, you know, family, you know, we go once a year, family vacation, summertime, I get the call. | ||
| What are you doing, Pat? | ||
| I'm sitting down reading a book. | ||
| Congratulations, you're officially a minority owner of the Yankees. | ||
| I couldn't freaking believe it, bro. | ||
| I'm like, are you serious? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, you got to keep doing it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, you know, of course. | ||
| You know, you go in there, wife, the kids, all this stuff. | ||
| I'm like, oh my God, my kid was watching one of the greatest documentaries of all time. | ||
| One of the greatest, he won 10 World Series. | ||
| Why am I forgetting his name? | ||
| Yogi Berra, Yogi Berra's documentary. | ||
| By the way, one of the best documentaries of all time, ever. | ||
| Good luck watching it without breaking down crying. | ||
| Literally, Yogi Berra documentary. | ||
| So my son watches it. | ||
| I'm seeing Dylan, he's emotional. | ||
| I watched the documentary, then I get the announcement, then we're going to the Yankee Stadium, and we're going to go there and show them around, and they're going to get a tour of the entire thing. | ||
| It's a great experience, but again, it's a dream, right? | ||
| There's an element of, I'm 44, but the people I always liked and respected the most, they had an element of being childlike. | ||
| I don't want to lose the ability of being childish, childlike. | ||
| That childlike element is creative, it's spontaneous, it's curious, it's in pursuit of something. | ||
| I love looking at my baseball cards and I become that 13 year old kid that was dreaming about one day having a Mickey Mantle card. | ||
| Like, oh my God, what if one day? | ||
| So, this brings me back to the 14 year old Pat, who's just a kid. | ||
| I mean, there's no way this is ever going to happen. | ||
| Your dad works at a 99 cent store. | ||
| So, super grateful. | ||
| Incredible dream. | ||
| One of the items on the bucket list, but it was a great experience. | ||
| On that note, my friend, you know how this thing is going to end? | ||
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How is it? | |
| Because I'm going to bring out young PBD. | ||
| We're going to play horse on my basketball court. | ||
| I'm going to lose. | ||
| In your suit. | ||
| I'll tell you in advance. | ||
| But look, because I've seen you, you're shot. | ||
| I know what you're doing, okay? | ||
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Thanks, man. | |
| Oh, man, this was great. | ||
| Appreciate you for having me on. | ||
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