Sept. 21, 2023 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| All right, we are live on various electronic gadgets. | ||
| I'm Dave Rubin, this is The Rubin Report, and it's another Friday roundtable extravaganza for you today on a Thursday. | ||
| We can do anything these days. | ||
| Joining me is board-certified internist and host of Ask Dr. Drew, Dr. Drew Pinsky, and president of the Brownstone Institute, Jeffrey A. Tucker. | ||
| Drew, Jeffrey, welcome back to The Rubin Report. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| I love that you've become Johnny Carson. | ||
| When I walk in, you know, this is our new garage studio here. | ||
| And when I walk in from my actual house, when I open up the door, I play the Tonight Show theme song so the guys can give me a round of applause. | ||
| And, you know, I've got an alcoholic like Ed McMahon over here. | ||
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It's very impressive. | |
| All right, I'm glad to have you guys on. | ||
| I thought right before we started that you guys had been on together. | ||
| I've wanted to have the two of you together, but apparently not. | ||
| But Jeffrey, you do go on Drew's show often. | ||
| So we're gonna talk some COVID stuff. | ||
| We're gonna talk some economy stuff. | ||
| Oh, and then we lost an F-35 plane for a couple of days. | ||
| So a whole bunch for you. | ||
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| All right, before we jump into the show, Jeffrey, every time you are on this show for the rest of eternity, I will always give you credit as the guy, more than anybody else that was in my circle, that you were against lockdowns, you were against all of the craziness two weeks To stop the spread, all of it from day one, and that kind of sets us up for the first story today because some info came out about Fauci's finances the other day. | ||
| We've got a quote from the Daily Mail. | ||
| A Freedom of Information Act request filed at the end of his tenure revealed Fauci and his wife, Dr. Christine Grady, had a net worth that exceeded $11 million. | ||
| in 2022, up from 7.6 million in 2019. | ||
| So you can see he had a nice bump during the COVID years. | ||
| He also was the highest paid employee in the federal government, about 400 grand a year. | ||
| Jeffrey, I will start with you. | ||
| I know you don't love the policies of Fauci, but what do you make of a guy like him basically getting super rich and, you know, half of his wealth basically came in these last three years? | ||
| One wonders if this has any relationship to why he changed his mind about lockdowns and even about vaccines in February. | ||
| So, you know, he was against lockdowns. | ||
| He thought that COVID was going to be just a kind of a serious flu, probably. | ||
| He wrote the Washington Post at the time, a letter that said, we don't need vaccines to get out of this pandemic. | ||
| It's going to go away on its own. | ||
| And then come, you know, about February 26th or something like that, he flipped in the other direction. | ||
| Why exactly that happened? | ||
| I don't know, but I've always assumed it had something to do with the Wuhan lab gain-of-function research and the possibility that NIH was itself responsible to some extent for a lab leak that might have led to the pathogen. | ||
| And he was led to panic, but I cannot fill in the details. | ||
| This is a lot of what my own research team is doing all the time is trying to figure this out. | ||
| But there's a lot of money sloshing around. | ||
| You know, the fact that he ends on the other side of this much richer than he was before. | ||
| We don't have clarity really on the relationship between his personal finances and other NIH employees and royalties from vaccine companies, for example. | ||
| It's very difficult to get that information. | ||
| It takes, you know, a lot of investigation. | ||
| There's just a lot more to know, and I would like to know. | ||
| Drew, I'm not saying, actually, that there's anything nefarious here, but the optics on this kind of thing, where the guy goes from seven mil, again, as a government employee, you know, a humble, everyone said he was a humble government employee, and da-da-da-da-do, it gets to about 12 million now, like, just optics-wise, and I know you have a bit of a, is it fair to say, complex relationship with him? | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Complexity. | ||
| Because, you know, I was a deep admirer since the AIDS pandemic. | ||
| In fact, why I got involved in radio was, when I was a young physician working on AIDS patients hand over fist, he was out there saying, you've got to get out and educate. | ||
| It's interesting, a lot of his fear techniques were precisely what he applied in the COVID | ||
| pandemic, just wasn't appropriate at all. | ||
| We actually congratulated ourselves for scaring an entire generation of high school and college | ||
| students that they were going to get AIDS, and they didn't, and we congratulated ourselves. | ||
| With COVID, it ended up being a catastrophe. But I actually, when I saw 11 million, I was actually | ||
| relieved because the rumors I was hearing about his participation and possibly in some of these | ||
| extraordinary sums of money that were flying around during COVID, now needs to be explained | ||
| why it went from 7 to 12. That's the bad optics here. But if he's saved his and his wife's salary | ||
| over many, many, he's 80 something years old, I mean, it's possibly going to save $7 million. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| But this sudden bump is what needs to be explained. | ||
| We need to see what's going on in there. | ||
| But again, there were lots of more serious allegations flying around. | ||
| So for me, it was a little bit of a relief. | ||
| Right, and by the way, the amount of money he's made in this is kind of insignificant to, I would argue, a lot of the confusions that he pushed on the American people, and he's still out there, even though he's out of the job right now, he's still out there on TV every single day, every big news show, saying things that I think are actually very confusing, if not outright lies. | ||
| Let's show you one from the last day or so. | ||
| Again, we have experience with this type of vaccine in billions of people. | ||
| It's a safe vaccine. | ||
| Of course, with the mRNA, there's a very, very, very low risk, particularly in young men, of getting a myocarditis. | ||
| But if you look at the risk of myocarditis from COVID itself, it's greater than the risk of the vaccine. | ||
| Drew, I asked you right before we started the show, because I wanted to make sure I was getting it right. | ||
| I could not find anything that said that what he just said there is true, that the risk of getting myocarditis from COVID in young men is higher than if you were to be vaxed. | ||
| So we couldn't find that. | ||
| And just on a personal note, I know a guy who's in his early 20s, college age, who has myocarditis now. | ||
| who had no health problems before COVID, and he was forced to get vax to go to college. | ||
| So can you hit this one? | ||
| So this is the complexity of this situation. | ||
| Fauci is reporting a study that did show a little higher incidence of myocarditis from COVID across all ages. | ||
| And myocarditis from COVID is, in terms of persistent myocarditis, Very rare in young people. | ||
| In older people, there often is a component of myocarditis that resolves when the COVID goes away. | ||
| The problem here is exactly what Dave, you're pointing out. | ||
| You're taking a healthy person, forcing them to put something in their body and making them sick. | ||
| And Fauci said something accurate. | ||
| It's a safe vaccine for the most part, rare risk of myocarditis, True. | ||
| Even rarer risk of severe COVID in that age group. | ||
| So the risk reward, this is the part they have left out since the beginning of COVID, which is that the risk of COVID is nil. | ||
| The risk of myocarditis is somewhat above nil. | ||
| Therefore, the risk reward doesn't really balance out, especially if you're going to mandate. | ||
| And this is at the core of what Aaron Cariotti has been saying, a psychiatrist who was drummed out of his position as the head of bioethics, for raising this very issue. | ||
| You don't have justification for mandates given the actual risk reward. | ||
| By the way, I think he was also kicked off YouTube. | ||
| He is on Rumble, just FYI. | ||
| Jeffrey, when you hear Fauci on the news now, do you think everyone will fall for it all over again? | ||
| You know, it seemed like a few weeks ago at the beginning of September, they were really on this push to kind of bring COVID back. | ||
| Dr. Jill Biden got it, Whoopi got it, like schools are starting, you better watch out. | ||
| It seems like it didn't quite take, but I'm always looking for that moment Where suddenly they're like, okay, new variant, let's roll, and you know that a whole bunch of people are just gonna fall for it all over again. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of people will, but there's a passionate minority that will not, and they're very well informed, they're super active, they're very attentive to the news. | ||
| I don't know what percentage of the population, is it 20%, 25% that are just going to say, no lockdowns, no more boosters. | ||
| We're gonna know more, by the way, We get the data on the uptake of the new vaccine that just came out. | ||
| Isn't that though incredible that even now they're on TV pushing new vaccines? | ||
| I think it was Kathy Hochul in New York pushing a new vaccine for six-month-olds. | ||
| I mean, Drew, there's simply no way they've been, I mean, first off, I think it would be criminally insane to be testing this on six-month-olds, but that they get out there and say it again. | ||
| Yeah, so there's many layers to that. | ||
| Again, we've never ever, Mandated or actually even recommended a treatment for a population that haven't been specifically studied. | ||
| Infants, pregnant women. | ||
| Now we've got some track record with this thing. | ||
| We do. | ||
| That's actually true. | ||
| But we are one of the only countries in the world to recommend this vaccine for the under the age of 50. | ||
| And most are not recommending for under the age of 65. | ||
| And full disclosure, my elderly patients are fully vaxxed and boosted and have benefited. | ||
| They are starting to complain though a little bit lately about side effects of the vaccine. | ||
| I had not seen that until recently. | ||
| And even the elderly population have a lot to be gained. | ||
| Again, they gain a lot from the vaccine. | ||
| So the risk reward reverses for them, right? | ||
| And even they have become somewhat skeptical, which really surprised me. | ||
| I mean, I know people beyond my friend who has myocarditis. | ||
| I know people that are having balancing issues. | ||
| I know someone having a vision problem. | ||
| Drew, you mentioned to me, was it COVID or vaccine related? | ||
| You were having like some cognitive stuff at one point, right? | ||
| I had long COVID. | ||
| And again, you have to realize there is vax injury, there is long vax. | ||
| I have several people I know that have had this long fatigue syndrome that looks just like long COVID. | ||
| But my experience with long COVID is that it's more likely to resolve within one to three months. | ||
| The long vax has been, the people I'm seeing have had it for 18 months, 24 months, and it really is disabling. | ||
| And it makes sense because for some people, they seem to be persistently creating spike protein. | ||
| And of course, spike is the source of the toxicity, we believe. | ||
| Jeffrey, as one of the guys that didn't fall for it, and again, I will always give you credit. | ||
| I should have had you on every day at the beginning of this thing. | ||
| What would you say to the people that are on the fence now, that really they still, you know, they kind of have woken up a little bit, but they just listen to the people that are supposedly in charge? | ||
| Well, I find it remarkable what Dr. Drew said is correct. | ||
| I mean, after three and a half years, we're still not getting honesty from the top about the age gradient of the medically significant risk from this pathogen. | ||
| Even considering wild type, or Delta, or Omicron, or this latest whatever it is, it's just not a risky pathogen for healthy working age people to say nothing of children where it's at zero. | ||
| So the vaccine issue here is very strange, because usually you evaluate drugs on whether they're safe and effective, and that's an important criterion. | ||
| But in this one, the very first question is, is it necessary? | ||
| And for the overwhelming number of people out there, it's just simply not necessary. | ||
| It doesn't even pass that test. | ||
| And that's always been the case. | ||
| I mean, we knew the age gradient of risk from this pathogen from February of 2020. | ||
| And yet here we are, barreling ahead, With the vaccine, with the mandates, with these universal recommendations. | ||
| And Biden, you know, was arguing for what, 70, 80, 90 percent? | ||
| I think even Fauci at some point said we wanted 90 percent of the population vaccinated. | ||
| Why? | ||
| It's just, I'm sorry, but you're going to get sick. | ||
| You're going to develop, your immune system is going to scale up to adapt to it. | ||
| That's how we've gotten out of every pandemic in the past. | ||
| This vaccine was never necessary for healthy working-age people. | ||
| I keep asking the question, why? | ||
| I keep asking. | ||
| I want to understand. | ||
| I really try to always understand both sides of these issues. | ||
| And so I'd like somebody to explain to me, why the kids? | ||
| Why pushing so hard on the kids? | ||
| It's literally no answer. | ||
| Can I give you my theory on that? | ||
| Well, my theory is that they're going for herd immunity, which is something they started with, but they're not going to get there. | ||
| It's just impossible. | ||
| What's your theory? | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| On that point, Dr. Drew, about herd immunity, so that's conditioned on the idea that the vaccine stops transmission. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, of course. | ||
| There's no way you can Obtain herd immunity with a vaccine that actually doesn't stop infection. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And we recognized very early on that neither was true, which is to say that there is no public health benefit to these vaccines. | ||
| They do not get us to herd immunity. | ||
| There might be a private benefit, but they do not make a contribution to obtaining herd immunity. | ||
| Correct, correct. | ||
| My response would be a little darker, I suppose, which is that when they realized that the vaxes weren't quite working the way that they wanted them to, or that they had planned or whatever, they really started pushing it on kids because they knew once they had parents, Doing it to their own children? | ||
| Once you have injected your child with something that you don't know why you did it or what it was going to do to them, you sort of have to be in on that forever. | ||
| Because the come-to-Jesus moment of, oh my God, I listened to some government bureaucrat and I did something that now may have given my kid a heart problem or a litany of other things, I think it just forced more people to sort of be for it forever because to confront the reality that you might've had something to do with harming your own child is just so crazy. | ||
| I don't even think that's much of a conspiracy theory, but speaking of the people that sort of lied all the way, this is just like the perfect storm of stupidity. | ||
| Lori Lightfoot, who was of course, was the basically communist mayor of Chicago and destroyed that city. | ||
| What happens when you're a communist, As a politician, you get fired or kicked out, and then you end up at Harvard. | ||
| That's where she's lecturing now, and check this out from the Chicago Sun-Times. | ||
| Former Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot is officially a college lecturer, at least for a semester, as her graduate-level class on health policy and leadership at Harvard University got underway last week. | ||
| Stay tuned, guys. | ||
| Lightfoot said she will use a mock press conference, a simulated community meeting, and guest speakers to teach in part about the dangers of politicizing a pandemic and how to interact with the media, drawing on lessons learned from running a city amid COVID-19. | ||
| I just want to get that right again, because we're going to show you a clip right now. | ||
| She is running a graduate-level class on health policy and leadership. | ||
| And now I would like to show you a little bit of that health policy and leadership, Lightfoot style, Chicago, middle of COVID, go. | ||
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We're not playing games. | |
| We mean business. | ||
| And we are going to shut this down one way or the other. | ||
| The time for educating people into compliance is over. | ||
| We will shut you down. | ||
| We will cite you. | ||
| And if we need to, we will arrest you and we will take you to jail. | ||
| Well, I don't think I can say what I'm thinking because I don't want to get demonetized today. | ||
| We've been demonetized twice this week. | ||
| Jeffrey, you want to field this one? | ||
| Well, she's got a nice colleague over there with Jacinda Ardern, who's enjoying two fellowships at Harvard. | ||
| So Harvard's become this sort of sanctuary for the lockdowns. | ||
| Today in Epoch Times, ironically, I wrote a column called The Valorization of the Tyrants. | ||
| And it's all about Ardern's appointment at Harvard with these two fellowships, the Kennedy School of Government and Yul Roth, who was the trust and safety czar at Twitter 1.0. | ||
| Just got hired by the University of Pennsylvania and the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace for the big fancy scholarship. | ||
| So this is what's happening to all these people. | ||
| And Brian Stelter, don't forget, Brian Stelter is now teaching media at Harvard. | ||
| I mean, you get fired, you ruin a country in this case, and yeah, you end up at these schools. | ||
| Yeah, so maybe Trump's favorite Mario Cuomo will be next, you know, full professorship. | ||
| You know, it's very strange because it's a small junta of people out there that engage in these unprecedented policies. | ||
| We've never pursued lockdowns like this. | ||
| Business closures, school closures, Church closures, keeping the big box stores open, shutting down all the small business, ruining everybody's lives, inflating the money supply by 6.5 trillion dollars and causing rampant inflation, worse, getting to the point it's just as bad as it was in 1979. | ||
| We've never done anything like this for, you know, a basic spread of a new virus. | ||
| Nothing like this in the whole history of modern life. | ||
| And we see the results. | ||
| The results are terrible demoralization, loss of education, loss of health. | ||
| They've obtained the opposite, and yet they're being rewarded for it. | ||
| There's something broken about the world, or something broken about academia, that this kind of thing would be happening. | ||
| Well, that's actually a great segue. | ||
| Drew, can you just bring us home on this COVID thing? | ||
| In terms of something broken, as someone that has spent, you know, three, four decades in public life at this point, trying to communicate science, to try to take complex ideas and bring them to common people, is your faith just completely busted? | ||
| Not only on the COVID front, but also the political front. | ||
| I mean, you hear someone like Lightfoot, she had no idea what she was talking about. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And it's just like this confluence of stupidity. | ||
| So, yeah, so I have many thoughts. | ||
| One is that was very familiar for L.A. | ||
| County. | ||
| I mean, that's what it felt like in California, too. | ||
| So that was nothing unusual for us out here in the West. | ||
| Yes, I left. | ||
| You were at my goodbye dinner. | ||
| Because of that. | ||
| And by the way, let's be fair. | ||
| She's saying it'll involve lessons learned. | ||
| I'm dying to know what lessons she learned. | ||
| I really want to know what did she learn during this? | ||
| Because my suspicion is nothing because there's an irrational certainty. | ||
| That has gripped people that have no understanding of the topic of health and particularly infectious diseases. | ||
| It's exactly, when they closed the schools here in Los Angeles, I was on a nightly program here at Channel 11, and the school board came in and said, we're closing the schools. | ||
| I said, who told, what doctor, what professional who works in this area, who has some degree of judgment with this, told you to do that? | ||
| No one. | ||
| We think it's the right thing to do. | ||
| We're certain it's the right thing to do. | ||
| In my world, we have rational uncertainty. | ||
| We're trying to arrive at an approximation of the truth. | ||
| Irrational certainty lays to untoward harm, and that harm is always perpetrated by people who have no knowledge in a subject matter. | ||
| They are bureaucrats and have no health experience whatsoever and are making risk-reward judgments. | ||
| Really, they're not making risk-reward judgments. | ||
| They are making these bizarre, sweeping fiats that have profound adverse effect without understanding what they are doing. | ||
| And this irrational certainty is the thing that has gripped us. | ||
| Now, as far as health communication goes, That's one of the things I was gobsmacked by during the pandemic because we learned during HIV and AIDS how to change behavior. | ||
| It was through narrative and through delivering stories about people like the people you want to change the behavior of using humor and music and letting people see the consequences of choices. | ||
| There was a discipline for years involved in changing health behavior. | ||
| All of that was tossed out the window in the name of authoritarian Authoritarian kinds of weird centralization of decision-making that was like nothing in human history. | ||
| You guys, Jeffrey said in modern history. | ||
| I would posit in human history, period. | ||
| Yeah, that's probably correct. | ||
| You know, there are other features of this thing we still don't understand. | ||
| How did it happen that all the hospitals at the same time all over the country shut down to everything except emergency surgeries and COVID? | ||
| I mean, how did that happen? | ||
| So, you know, all the cancer screens were gone and we're seeing a huge increase in cancer, partially as a result of that, but elective surgeries were gone, the hospitals were starved of revenue, we got dancing nurses and other things. | ||
| Who made that decision? | ||
| I asked an expert about this, about the hospital protocol, which were very often deadly during this period. | ||
| You know, who made this decision, the decision to shut all the hospitals in the whole country, whether COVID was there or not, to shut them all down for everything but COVID? | ||
| And do you know that we still don't have an answer to who precisely made that decision? | ||
| It's so strange. | ||
| And the division of the workforce between essential and unessential, you know, just one day, it was March 18th, 2020, this organization called CISA, Cyber Infrastructure Security Infrastructure, I don't know, agency, Uh, not the Department of Labor, but CISA sent out a PDF and you had to read the PDF to find out if you were essential or not. | ||
| They split the workforce right down the middle and created this kind of weird techie feudalism just by executive fiat. | ||
| Who gave CISA that authority? | ||
| And to say to people, putting aside the ridiculousness of it, I mean, to say to a certain set of people, you are unessential. | ||
| To the operation of this world and this economy and America, you are actually unessential. | ||
| But speaking of unessential people, Janet Yellen, let's move on to the economy. | ||
| Janet Yellen is telling us that the economy, I think, is kind of doing all right. | ||
| It's a little unclear. | ||
| Take a look. | ||
| We still have a good, healthy labor market. | ||
| Consumer spending remains quite robust. | ||
| We've seen strong industrial production. | ||
| I don't see any signs that the economy is at risk of a downturn. | ||
| And this is the best of all worlds. | ||
| Jeffrey, I'm kind of two minds on this one because, you know, first on a ground, like just my life, like I'm here in Florida, South Florida especially, but Florida is just flourishing. | ||
| So many people are moving here. | ||
| There's construction everywhere. | ||
| We're building roads, infrastructure, new businesses, like, so I get that that's a very micro version of this. | ||
| On the other hand, is she saying there's no signs of a problem, but interest rates, if you were trying to buy a house right now, you're basically paying about 9%. | ||
| Wouldn't that alone be some indicator of a bit of a problem? | ||
| Well, yeah, that's right. | ||
| But, you know, everything she said is false. | ||
| The labor markets are not healthy. | ||
| And you're right about Florida, right? | ||
| Florida and Texas seem to be, you know, among all the states doing pretty well. | ||
| But, you know, I'm over here in the Northeast, I can tell you it's not looking so good. | ||
| But even if you look at the data, just consider labor, for example. | ||
| She says, oh, labor markets are fine. | ||
| She's talking about the unemployment rate, you know, which has no relevance whatsoever. | ||
| these times. Labor market participation has still not recovered from the pandemic, | ||
| and I'm starting to get really incredulous about the BLS's labor releases. The last one | ||
| was claiming all these glorious job creation. When I looked at the numbers, and they said that | ||
| part-time jobs for economic reasons were unchanged. | ||
| When I went and looked at the actual tables that they published, it said the opposite. | ||
| There was a 5.4% increase in part-time jobs for economic reasons and a reduction in full-time jobs. | ||
| I'm looking at this thinking, okay, so people are losing full-time jobs and picking up part-time jobs even though they want a full-time job and they can't get it, and that's up 5.4% in one month? | ||
| And you call that a healthy labor market? | ||
| This is not a healthy labor market. | ||
| Yeah, and everything else she said is completely wrong. | ||
| And of course, they never want to talk about inflation, which, by the way, is coming back again. | ||
| Contrary to my predictions, I thought it would be down to 3% by now. | ||
| No! | ||
| It's at 3.4%. | ||
| And actually, if you annualize last month's increase in inflation, it comes to 7.8%. | ||
| And in energy services, we're in double digits, 10.4%. | ||
| So it's re-accelerating. | ||
| Right, so isn't that the part, Drew, that I think most people can see where, so the average person obviously isn't going to dive into the economic charts the way Jeffrey is, but the average person can see when you go to the store, things do seem to be more expensive and your dollar is not going as far. | ||
| Like, isn't that really kind of the simplest way to look at this? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I mean, that's a great model for looking at everything other than what the centralized authorities are telling you. | ||
| Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes? | ||
| What do you see around you? | ||
| What do you feel? | ||
| It's overwhelming. | ||
| It's talked about constantly. | ||
| Go to a restaurant and see if you don't feel it immediately when the check comes. | ||
| It is everywhere and everyone is aware. | ||
| And it feels, I have no other, again, I'm not an economist, but it feels rickety. | ||
| It feels like it could all of a sudden topple. | ||
| And the people that are suffering the most, of course, are young people trying to get their lives going. | ||
| They look at California. | ||
| Unless you're a homeless person, you are a piggy bank for the state. | ||
| And it's atrocious. | ||
| I feel terrible for people that are getting their lives going out here. | ||
| Let me throw to one more clip of Janet Yellen, because interestingly, she's talking about, she's sort of saying the reverse of what we're saying right now, that there is a disc, well, it's not quite the reverse, but she's basically saying there's a disconnect with what she claims the reality is, Jeffrey doesn't agree with that, versus what the public perception is. | ||
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I'm not asking you to play therapist with the American voter, but there seems to be a disconnect between the numbers we're seeing and the way people are feeling about the economy, and how do you account for it? | |
| I agree with you that there's a disconnect, and I don't have a simple and convincing answer, but Americans have been through a lot. | ||
| The pandemic really took a toll on American families, on children, on households. | ||
| We are enjoying a remarkable recovery, but also with high inflation, much of it reflecting supply bottlenecks that developed During the pandemic and then with Russia's brutal attack on Ukraine, we saw a surge in gas prices, in food prices. | ||
| Americans have been reeling from high inflation. | ||
| They do realize in polls that it's coming down. | ||
| And Americans' financial situation actually improved during the pandemic. | ||
| Drew, thank you for that collective groan. | ||
| I think that was you. | ||
| Jeffrey! | ||
| The way, though, that she combines all of these things, right? | ||
| So, and like, I was just shocked it didn't get to climate change also, right? | ||
| Like, of course, that'll be, we probably cut the clip too early. | ||
| But this combination of things that sort of have nothing to do with each other but are the talking points of the day, she did it very seamlessly there. | ||
| Yeah, she's very clever. | ||
| When she refers to the pandemic was devastating, the pandemic response was devastating. | ||
| Yes, that's exactly my take. | ||
| It's not the pandemic, it's what we did. | ||
| It's what we did in response to the pandemic that destroyed everybody. | ||
| The virus didn't cause this, and did you catch how she's blaming supply chains for the inflation? | ||
| They never want to talk about the Federal Reserve, you know, which unleashed You know, a helicopter money worth $6.5 trillion. | ||
| You know, we've never seen, at the height, it was something like 27% annualized increase. | ||
| Just incredible. | ||
| And as for Americans doing better, yes, we got stimulus payments. | ||
| Do you know the value of those stimulus payments is now gone in light of all the inflation? | ||
| The dollar has lost between 16 and 20 cents from its 2019 value. | ||
| And so the stimulus payments are gone. | ||
| It was the greatest head fake in the history of economics. | ||
| I mean, it's like, look, you're rich, you're rich. | ||
| Oh, thanks, this is wonderful. | ||
| And then they just took it all the way through inflation. | ||
| As for the Americans being better off right now, she's completely neglecting a very interesting survey | ||
| that comes from the Census Bureau. | ||
| Now, I trust this one because this is where the Census Bureau is actually asking people, how much money are you making this year? | ||
| And the survey comes out every year. | ||
| It's not from the BLS. | ||
| It's not from an agency that the Biden administration has now gotten clever at controlling. | ||
| It's from the Census Bureau, so I tend to trust it. | ||
| It comes out once a year. | ||
| It just came out American median household income is down for the third year in a row, in real terms. | ||
| So what she said is absolutely wrong. | ||
| And let me just finish on this. | ||
| She says there's no risk of a downturn. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| There was never an upturn. | ||
| And I've argued this at length in many, many places. | ||
| I don't think we ever left the recession of March 2020. | ||
| And everything else is an illusion. | ||
| And that's fine. | ||
| Right, so it's funny, because she's kind of saying it's an optics problem, and in a weird way, you're saying, well, yeah, you guys have lied about everything, so there's a grand optics problem, maybe not the one she's talking about. | ||
| This idea, though, Drew, of stimulus, where they give us back money, isn't that sort of the problem in the first place? | ||
| Like, why is it that nobody is ever like, oh, how about we take less of your money in the first place, you figure out what to do with your own money, instead of us just giving you crumbs back that we took from you? | ||
| People don't seem to put that together. | ||
| Yes, this is the part that nobody can understand. | ||
| I remember, it reminds me of when I was interviewing one of the heads of the budget director, the chairman of the budget committee here in California, and she was talking about these shortfalls, and I said, yeah, what are you going to do? | ||
| She goes, We don't have the money. | ||
| So I go, yeah, so what? | ||
| She goes, well, you know, the federal government needs to just give us that. | ||
| I was like, what? | ||
| It's the head of the budget committee. | ||
| Where do you think money comes from? | ||
| I'm also thinking about, you know, the richest man in the world in the history of humanity was a Mali king named Mansa Musa. | ||
| And he went on a grand European tour. | ||
| This is like thousands of years ago. | ||
| And he had so much gold, he handed out wherever he went. | ||
| And by doing that, he crashed the economy of everybody he visited. | ||
| And he had to go back in and buy the gold back to stabilize their economies on his way home. | ||
| It's a perfect example of what they're doing Yesterday, we showed a clip of Eric Adams in New York City, who made New York a sanctuary city. | ||
| And now he's upset as to what happens when you just allow 10,000 people a month in. | ||
| And his answer was, well, we don't have the money anymore. | ||
| We put two billion towards it. | ||
| We need more money from the federal government. | ||
| And it's like, guys, the federal government let all these people in in the first place. | ||
| Never ends, but sorry, let's finish up with the ridiculous story of the week, because the government, which clearly none of us are loving these days, it also lost an F-35 for a couple days in South Carolina. | ||
| This is absolutely wild from the hill. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| military is hunting for an $80 million F-35 fighter jet after a pilot ejected from the military aircraft near Charleston, South Carolina on Sunday. | ||
| Officials at Joint Base Charleston said they were working with a local Marine base to locate an F-35 that was involved in a mishap Sunday afternoon. | ||
| The pilot ejected safely from the jet and is receiving medical care. | ||
| If you have any information that may help our recovery teams locate the F-35, please call the base defense operations at blah, blah, blah. | ||
| They wrote on Twitter and ladies and gentlemen, in case you haven't seen it, Somebody did find the jet, fear not. | ||
| I love this guy. | ||
| This is Randolph White in South Carolina. | ||
| This guy is a national hero as far as I'm concerned. | ||
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| I said, what in the world is this? | ||
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| White says he didn't realize it was a plane at the time, so he didn't call anybody. | ||
| I swear to God, I would rather have that guy in charge of whatever the | ||
| high hell is going on here than Lori Lightfoot or Anthony Fauci or Janet Yellen. | ||
| I want to go down and have lunch with them. | ||
| Drew, isn't it just perfect? | ||
| They literally lost an F-35 and they asked people to call them if they found it. | ||
| It's a brilliant example of government incompetence. | ||
| But, you know, H.L. | ||
| Mencken said, thank goodness we don't get all the government we pay for. | ||
| But I got to say something. | ||
| Pilots I talk to keep saying the same thing, which is an aircraft that is still flying you don't eject from. | ||
| And so this mishap, that's such a carefully chosen word, They will glide the plane, they will do all kinds of things with the plane to kind of get it towards something like a landing or a safety, unless it's rapidly changing altitude, which they did not say that. | ||
| They did not say a mechanical error. | ||
| They did not say a major malfunction. | ||
| They said some sort of mishap, and that is a bizarre choice of words. | ||
| It's a bizarre response. | ||
| They couldn't track an F-35 and where it was going? | ||
| Was it hacked? | ||
| Was it taken over? | ||
| Did the pilot do something egregious? | ||
| I mean, there's lots of possibilities here other than something routine, which is a major mechanical malfunction. | ||
| They did not say that, and the plane did not lose altitude before the pilot took out. | ||
| To be clear, Drew, the pilot is now blaming this on bad weather. | ||
| It still doesn't explain why they lost the plane after. | ||
| F-35 can't fly through bad weather? | ||
| If that's true, I want my $85 million back. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Drew, it's made by the government. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| Watch, this is just perfect. | ||
| This is perfect government 101. | ||
| Here is John Kirby, who has become sort of the most, you know, Corrine Jean-Pierre is like the obvious clown of the administration, but he is running a really tight second right now and just making up nonsense. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
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Let me ask you about the F-35. | |
| How does the U.S. | ||
| military lose a $100 million plane? | ||
| That will be something that they will investigate. | ||
| Believe me, after every aviation mishap, the Pentagon does what the Pentagon does. | ||
| They'll investigate it to try to get the answers on what happened. | ||
| And they'll also, I'm sure, look at their own search and recovery efforts of the aircraft itself to see whether that was conducted in all the appropriate ways. | ||
| They'll investigate this, and as the Defense Department always does, they'll be transparent about it when they find the answer. | ||
| Oh, well, they'll be transparent. | ||
| I mean, this is the government. | ||
| Like, if my guys lost a piece of equipment, a camera, if a camera was missing from my studio, all hell would be breaking loose until it would be found, okay? | ||
| And it's like, Jeffrey, it's just perfect. | ||
| He's perfect, right? | ||
| He's a perfect bureaucrat, right? | ||
| No, he's perfect. | ||
| You know, Ed, I've never been a I'm a big fan of government. | ||
| I've never been hugely trusting of government, but these days, it's a different level. | ||
| You know, I just assume that anything coming out of these people's mouths is just completely, you know, made up to cover up. | ||
| And the idea of the Department of Defense being transparent, you know, the Department of Defense was involved very deeply in the COVID response. | ||
| We still cannot get a fix on that. | ||
| I would love to see some transparency there. | ||
| Mishap though, boy, that word is so... that's their talking point. | ||
| That's the word they keep repeating. | ||
| There's something embedded in that word mishap. | ||
| Guys, it was a pleasure, as always. | ||
| I hope you both, well, I was gonna say I hope you both get home, but I think you both are at home without losing your car or your plane or your helicopter or anything else. | ||
| We'll link to all your stuff down below. | ||
| For everybody else, we've got a post-game show coming up in about 30 seconds at reubenreport.locals.com. | ||
| And we've got a cold close. | ||
| Can we call this AI? | ||
| Would this be considered AI? | ||
| This might be AI-related. | ||
| I don't want to be sued. | ||
| Thanks, guys. | ||
| We'll see ya. | ||
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