Glenn Beck and Dave Rubin dissect the "Dark Future" in Beck's new book, recounting a 2006 conversation with Ray Kurzweil about uploading consciousness by 2030. They contrast this with robotic slavery, linking current trends to the Weimar Republic's descent into Nazi rule where LGBTQ individuals faced early persecution. Beck warns against "normalcy bias," predicting AI-driven social credit systems, Depression-era unemployment, and a "useless class" akin to Yuval Noah Harari's theories. Distinguishing between ANI and future AGI, he fears personalized digital assistants will render humans obsolete within two to three years, potentially enabling new eugenics while acknowledging quantum computing might solve climate change. Ultimately, the dialogue suggests that augmenting humanity into "Homo Deus" could end true existence, leaving Beck uncertain if Kurzweil seeks immortality or merely recreates his deceased father. [Automatically generated summary]
We have not done anything on camera for, I don't know, probably about a half a year or so, so I want to catch up on a bunch of stuff, but as if the title of the book, Dark Future, Isn't Terminator-y enough, scary enough, etc.?
You said to me right before we started, since we are holding this for just a little bit because people know I'm off the grid right now, you said to me, what if I'm dead by the time we post this video?
Not that you need any help selling books, because how many books is this for you, and your books, I mean, like, flattery aside, like, every book you sell seems to sell more than the other, and you've done all the lists and all the stuff.
So I'm going to be real honest with you because I don't want to lie to anybody.
I've not even read this.
I have no idea what it's about.
It could be gibberish.
No.
I have a really good team that help me write and research.
And what I usually do is I'll put all the bones together and say, this is what it needs to be about.
And then they'll start putting the meat.
And then we just shape it at the end.
I write it that way.
I write it with a team.
They were really not happy about this book because I'm kind of a novice futurist.
I've been reading, you know, Ray Kurzweil and others since the 1990s and they aren't.
And they were like, wait, we have no... I'm like, gotta get cracking on the books.
And so did a lot of research and what's nice is It's not over anyone's head.
It was important to me that we hit technology square in the face, but most people think of technology still a bit as science fiction, and it's science fact right now.
We are in the midst of a technological revolution and, you know, many people, we can do all the sci-fi references, people basically would say, you know, Skynet is on.
The machines have sort of taken over already.
The amount of people that will see this very video, it really is beholden to algorithms and machine learning and God knows what else.
But before we dive into all of that, you've for a long time, I give you a lot of credit my friend, you've been right about a lot of things way before.
And I told you when we first met, well before we had ever worked together or anything else, I would watch you on, I think first on CNBC and then on Fox, you'd have the chalkboard and I'd be like, I can't tell if this guy's completely insane, absolutely hilarious, a genius, a lunatic, like all of that stuff.
I will tell you, anything that I got right, I think, comes more from God than me.
Anything that I got wrong is definitely from Him.
But you have to just take people At their word.
And the first time that I was really right about something kind of profoundly scary was September 11th.
And it was August of 99 maybe?
And I was on the air at WABC and it had to be earlier than that because Clinton was still in office and he had just bombed the aspirin factory, if you remember that.
And what he was doing, he was targeting Osama Bin Laden.
I couldn't even pronounce his name.
I'd never even heard of it.
Osama Bin Laden, I think I called him.
And I said, look, I'm no fan of Clinton, but this guy is scary.
This is one thing that maybe we should pay attention to.
And I got so much pushback from the audience.
And I said, guys, he's saying he's going to kill us.
Take him at his word.
Okay, you're wrong if he doesn't, but at least you're prepared in case he does.
And I said, within 10 years there will be blood bodies in buildings in this city and it will have his name on it if you don't pay attention to him.
Yeah, and geez, well you certainly turned out right on that one, and you've been ballparking a lot of the other stuff that we're going through right now.
Your last book on the Great Reset, really what's happening everywhere in terms of this giant globalist government that seems to perhaps control both parties right now,
but certainly control the Democrat party and everything else.
So is that a good place to start as we enter this dark future?
Just sort of what's going on politically here at the moment without getting into just what happened today or yesterday?
In case you're dead by the time we post this and I don't want to-
Anyway, the I think the problem Dave is or where we should start is the normalcy bias.
The normalcy bias gets humans into trouble.
It also saves our lives on day-to-day.
On day-to-day, you need...
You know, we have trained ourselves to look for dangers.
And if we were looking for dangers, we would find them all the time and we'd be freaking out all the time.
So we have what's called the normalcy bias.
That kind of fits into the normal pattern, so I got it.
And so you don't even really think of that threat, you know, in your frontal cortex.
On September 11th is a great example.
What happened there was a lot of the people that could have gotten out were making their way down the stairs out of one of the towers and then they turned around and went back up because they had to turn off their computer.
They forgot their purse or whatever.
They just assumed they were coming back because It was too big to handle an airplane going through their building.
It didn't compute.
So the normalcy bias, to keep you calm, happens.
That's what's happening in our world today.
People are just pretending, and I think it's natural, that all of this is normal.
And it's still within the normal parameters, and so nothing's really going to happen.
And that is, we are right now in the stairs of the Twin Towers, and it's coming down.
You know, it's so interesting to me that you're framing it that way because, you know, I'm very proud to say that when COVID happened, I was very early on on being skeptical.
Like once the 15-day thing hit, when they said 15 days to stop the spread, On day 16, I was basically done.
And the reason I was done is because of a word that you just said.
Everywhere, every news organization, every commercial, every public service announcement kept saying the new normal.
It's the new normal.
And I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute.
You guys just told us 15 days, we'll be good to go.
And then overnight, the new normal.
So that has something I think to do with another word you mentioned earlier about timing.
That these things sort of happen in a way Where we don't realize how much we're giving away as we're giving it away.
And that's why the individuals, the preppers and everybody else, the people who have already made a move to a safer area or one with a stronger community sense, they're the ones that are going to survive.
I mean, Dave, I think I asked you at one point, Maybe a couple years ago.
At what point do we realize, or at what point do we become the German Jew that just kept saying, it's not going to get worse than this.
I mean, if you look at the Weimar Republic, The Weimar Republic went through this exact same thing.
It had its September 11th.
It had the Second World War.
All the churches were like, we're righteous, we're gonna win, don't worry.
It dragged on, humiliated, bankrupt the country.
Then the younger group, the older group, Didn't recognize their country anymore and a younger generation came in and a lot of the power flipped from the older generation to the 20 and 30 year olds.
Then they got rich because during hyperinflation, they weren't married and didn't have to run out to the store.
They could invest it.
So they got rich and then Like crazy permiscuity.
I mean, it became Babylon.
Berlin became Babylon.
And most people don't know that in 1925, the first trans surgery happened in Germany.
From 25 to 29, he died when the final surgery put a uterus in him.
But the scary thing is, Dave, on both sides, and I really want to spend a little time making
sure it's very clear on this, the first books to be burned were the LGBTQ books that were
being put in schools.
Pedophilia had started up, and all of the stuff that we're experiencing right now, where there was just a disengagement from reality and right and wrong, And so by 29 and 30, the churches, which were dead inside, they were just righteous, but not Christ-like at all.
They were starting to ring the bells.
The Nazis came in.
The first book burnings were from that literature.
The first people in the concentration camp were generally gays, anyone who was said that they were trans, any of that stuff.
They were the first.
This should be a very big warning to both sides.
One, anyone who says you're a Nazi for being against these, you're book-burning.
I honestly don't think they know history, but I do.
And that should wake all of us up.
If we don't know history, we will repeat it.
So, they have a reason to say, hey Nazi, you know, back off.
Do you think it's baked in that we repeat it no matter what, that this is just what the human experience is, and that we cannot, to some degree, as a society, we cannot escape these mistakes that we seem to make over and over and over again because of the slow motion nature of some of this?
But he's fantastic and I'm inspired by this this painting of this woman and man and she's all in her mink and everything and he's in a top hat and tails and you can see behind them all of the theater postings.
They were going out to the theater and then a cop coming down the stairs and it's shot on the shot of them and the two faces she is just really like freaking and he looks like I can't believe this is happening.
And the name of the painting is Friedrich.
Closed?
Do you know what that means?
And I think a lot of people are going to kind of come to that point.
So as, okay, so I think some people are waking up to it.
Certainly your audience is hearing this stuff.
My audience, we talk about this and, you know, clearly there's been some pushback.
A guy like Glenn Youngkin won in Virginia because he stood up against, you know, stood up for the parents and things of that nature.
But let's connect this a little bit to some of the stuff the book's about in the title again, which, because I'm a big sci-fi guy, Dark Future.
I mean, it just sounds like a movie that I would have run to have seen with Schwarzenegger in, you know, 1987.
Because now so much of our information is sorted by machines and AI, and you just mentioned you're hanging out with a bunch of artists right now.
I mean, artists are gonna be hanging on by a thread now with AI art.
It's crazy.
I don't know if you've gone on to any of those sites where you can basically just put in a couple keywords and come up with art that is, to be honest, incredibly, unbelievably inspiring and awesome.
We are now at the very beginning of what's called the fourth industrial revolution.
The fourth industrial revolution is going to take the first industrial revolution began in 1760, 1770, somewhere in that.
So, imagine what life was like in 1770.
You're still crapping outdoors.
There is no such thing as a sales manager.
There's no electricity.
It's...
Not great.
All of the changes from the first Industrial Revolution till about 1880, where we discover electricity and we get refrigeration and lights and everything else, to the Information Age and the Space Age, then the third is the technological difference and the Information Age really kind of coming together.
All of that, from 1770 to about 2020, that whole change, that kind of an impact is going to happen in the next 10 years.
And the displacement is going to be beyond understanding.
The problem is, we could make this, we could absolutely make this, if we had governments anywhere in the world telling people the truth.
They're telling you about climate change.
That's bullcrap, and even if it isn't bullcrap, it's at least a hundred years away.
And we could technologically figure out ways To best it in the end.
Man will survive.
But what they're not telling you is your life is about to dramatically change to where the people like Yuval Noah Harari, he's talking about useless classes.
Millions and millions of people in a useless class that can't do anything but eat.
So when you see the what I would describe is as weakness or actual connection to China, weakness against China or connection to China, say, from the Biden administration, and then you see what's going on in China right now, social credit, 15 minute cities, you know, people's face, you do you do something.
that they don't want you to do. Your face is now blasted in effect in Times Square
of China all day long so people know not to associate with you.
It is quite literally an episode of Black Mirror which I recommend everyone watch.
But basically the book is is telling us this is what we're importing right now.
And you look at all these companies that have such high ESG scores, Yet you're in bed with China and you're willing to write anything for China.
You don't care about the slaves.
Please don't talk to me about slavery in 1850 when you are writing programs to enslave people today in China.
We are now entering territories, and we talk about it in the book Dark Future, where Where it's almost these mad scientists who are so reckless on AI or AGI or ASI that they feel like they're making a god.
And they so want to talk and converse and be in the presence of omnipotence that they'll create it and somehow or another they think they'll be okay.
You know, it's funny, I'm listening to you, and again, I'm a huge sci-fi guy.
The list of sci-fi movies that have predicted all of this, whether it's the machines taking over, or the algorithms taking over, or quite literally, the last couple alien movies, where they're trying to create the perfect organism, and of course, the organism is gonna realize, guess what?
Well, it's incredibly highly biased, which basically we found out the day it was sort of widely launched, which was fairly obvious to anyone that's, again, seen any sci-fi movie.
You know, it's so interesting because after three years of COVID and the craziness around mandates and vaccines and everything else, you really could see it in a very clear way how we're five years from now.
They've got everybody just basically locked in the matrix, you know, one way or another through their devices or everything they're doing online and all that stuff.
And then the few people who don't want to join.
Progressives believe that man progressively gets better.
than be considered the enemy because what are they up to?
That they don't wanna be in the same system that we're in.
And then we've found an awful lot about the way we would treat people
who don't wanna do things the way we wanna do them.
Man is, you know, progressives believe that man progressively gets better.
Realists know that progress is 100% individual.
If the individual progresses throughout his lifetime, that's an individual choice.
And if enough of them are progressing as individuals, spiritually, philosophically, then the society will progress.
But once they die, it's a new choice for new little babies to start from the beginning.
We don't progress, per se, and I think we will find out In record rate, how uncivilized we really are when we are lacking energy, lacking food, whatever it is.
How worried are you that even if the machines aren't taking over and literally exterminating us, that just what they could do in terms of what guys like you and I do for a living, just try to translate the insanity into something sensible for people, that that will be so cordoned off, maybe we're there already, That you will rarely ever meet anyone on this planet who thinks the same things that you do, or even roughly the same things, meaning that we will have all been so atomized and manipulated through algorithms and everything else, it will be impossible to agree on anything.
I think that's a longer process and I'm not sure how that happens, if that happens.
I do know that it becomes more and more powerful and with that power Come people, and people who are in charge of that power.
I think the dystopian world of even possibly 2030 is that you don't go anywhere.
Dave, you and I talking to each other.
If I am on some list, which I can guarantee you I'm on, if I'm on some list and you talk to me, your score goes down.
And so we can't talk to each other unless we don't want to fly again.
There's this great article.
It's in the book.
I'm trying to remember where I got it from.
I think it's from UNESCO.
And it was written in 2019.
in 2019 and it talks about two people and this husband and wife and this is their idea
of a utopia of tomorrow by 2030.
That he takes the rapid transit, he takes the train.
I don't know why...
It always starts with the stupid train.
And Democrats are always like, we've got to build a new train.
Anyway, so he goes to work on the train.
And he's in work within 20 minutes.
However, she has to ride the bus, which takes up to three hours, which means she's going to be on the bus.
She'll be late for work, blah, blah, blah.
But she has a lower social credit score.
And it says she recycles, she does all these things, she does the right things, she raises her children right, etc, etc.
But she's a journalist, which requires her to talk to unsavory people with different opinions, which lowers her score so she has to take the bus for three hours every day.
She's a journalist.
Even a journalist will have points deducted if they talk to somebody who might have a different opinion.
Well, even that concept, does it strike you as strange or why is it that for all the warnings about all of this in great literature and great science fiction and biblical stories, for all the warnings of opening the Ark of the Covenant and figuring out what the ultimate power is, we still go to it?
We all, there's still something within all of us.
Otherwise, you know, you'd be probably living in, well, you have some locations in the middle of nowhere, but in essence, we'd all dip out if we were listening to the warnings.
Would you connect some of this to what people have lately been calling the crisis of meaning that particularly younger people are having in that they're so confused about things and their leaders and their elders and parents' generations and all of this stuff has failed them that in a weird way when lockdowns came around, when mandates came around, they kind of wanted it because it was just something.
It was just something that was different than a thing.
Or when you think about the Antifa soldiers and the BLM people, did they really want to burn down their cities and communities?
Probably not if you really sat them down, but it was just something.
I think there's going to become... I mean, you can't put the kinds of people out on the street, and we're talking 30% by 2030.
Unemployment, double that of the Great Depression, and it's never coming back.
You can't put those kinds of people out on the street and expect things to go well.
So they better have a good handle on you, and a way to keep you, as Navala Harari says, medicated and online.
So I think that there's going to be a couple of things could happen if we're really fortunate.
One, there could be a great awakening, kind of like the Jesus movement of the seventies, which took the hippie movement, which was going downhill quickly into drugs and everything else, and turned it into an uplifting kind of movement.
The Jesus hippies.
There's a chance that life Has become so meaningless in a way that it did kind of in the 1960s that we will find meaning again Also there is Right now we're fascinated by things we can do that aren't real you know things that we can you know the the filters we use and the and the way we I mean as somebody who has taken
Thousands and thousands of pictures with people.
In the last five years, maybe three for sure, I have noticed younger people, when they take a picture of themselves or take a picture, they have, especially girls, they have this pose that they go into.
It's almost always the same and it always happens.
They're not individuals anymore, they're That's who they are in photos, and it's disturbing.
But I think we have a chance of starving for reality.
And if we don't start getting hungry for reality, we're gonna be in trouble.