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dave rubin
Alright people, I'm still Dave Rubin.
This is still The Rubin Report, and welcome to another Friday roundtable extravaganza.
We're gonna dive right into it.
Joining me today is an author, a mathematician, a guy who's recently back on the Twitter machine, and a professional troublemaker, James Lindsay, and the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial, and now, I think as of like today, the new editor-in-chief of Human Events as well, Libby Emmons.
James, Libby, welcome to The Rubin Report.
james lindsay
Hey, thank you.
libby emmons
Thank you, Jeff.
dave rubin
Before we get to anything, guys, I want to make note, because I know the people on the internet, they're very critical, they stare at every little thing on the computer screen, and they may be noting that my left eye is a little swollen right now.
Justin, my oldest, he scratched me yesterday in the eye.
I was kind of rubbing it all night, and it's a little swollen.
Don't worry, I'm not being, it's not elder abuse or anything like that, but I am using a child's teething toy to, you know, as a little comfort in between segments.
So, there you go, but you people have nothing to worry about.
I'm doing just fine.
All right, let's get right to it.
We're doing, like, a recap of the week and some of the wacky stories that we actually couldn't get to through Monday through Thursday.
So, here we go.
First off, Greta Thunberg.
Everyone loves her.
The climate... I almost said the climate C word, but no, no, no.
Look, she's a chick.
No, sorry.
libby emmons
I love it.
I'm going to adopt that.
dave rubin
Yeah, I know.
That's actually, I feel like that's like right out of Curb Your Enthusiasm or something.
Greta Thunberg, Mrs. Green Energy, you know, who fakes these arrests every now and again while she was detained once again, this time in Oslo, Norway, for protesting a wind farm, which I thought they were for wind farms.
It's all very confusing.
unidentified
Take a look.
[Chanting]
dave rubin
It all feels very staged.
James, I don't know if you saw the one a couple weeks ago where they full-on staged it where she was literally taking selfies with the police officers as they were arresting her.
It's like, is anything about any of this climate stuff real or is this just all absolute theater and basically 90% of the world is falling for it?
james lindsay
I think it's probably almost all theater.
Uh, the world is being run into the ground by theater kids.
It's kind of all over the place.
It's very much feels that way.
Uh, what, what people got to have got to understand though, is this is a tactic.
They understand what they're doing.
There's a book that the left wrote.
It's an update for rules for radicals, which a lot of people have heard of Saul Alinsky's famous handbook for radicals.
And it's called beautiful trouble and in beautiful trouble.
One of the core principles of activism today is That that you are to frame out that you're this kind of victim at all times.
And so what they do is they stage these situations.
Maybe she really gets arrested.
Maybe it's fake.
But the point is that Antifa does this all the time.
They get it so that what's shown on camera looks very dramatic.
Police carrying her out.
She's a she's a slumpy sack of potatoes.
It's so dramatic.
She's standing up for her principles so well.
And what they do is they As we saw with the previous episode, they cut off the front, they cut off the back, they make it look like it's this dramatic scene, when in fact it's fake, or it's banal, or how boring are these things at this point?
But it's a tactic to drum up the idea that there are highly committed people rather than cynical operators doing these kinds of things and pushing for this agenda.
dave rubin
Libby, the performative part of this, I'm really fascinated by what James said, because yesterday we played a clip of Randi Weingarten, who's the Teachers Union president, and she was outside the capital, or outside the Supreme Court actually, screaming about the potential decision related to student debt relief.
And it was theater to me, as James described, theater kids.
It was just this emotive lunacy having nothing to do with what the laws are or what it says in the Constitution related to student debt, which it says nothing, and that thing.
But it still gets people.
It still gets people, right?
libby emmons
Yeah, it sure does.
I do agree with James about Greta Thunberg.
She probably should have finished her education at some point instead of going on about all of this nonsense.
And with Randi Weingarten, she just doesn't want the educational system that she is essentially running in so many ways to be held accountable for a bunch of kids who grow up and don't know anything and then take really stupid courses of studies at universities, come out of school, can't get a job in their field, can't pay their student loans back.
You know, because they've undertaken this garbage plan of action.
So yeah, she wants to see all those student loans forgiven so that people don't have to turn around and be mad at her for having provided them with not an education at all.
dave rubin
So with the climate thing in mind, take a look at this video from CNBC.
This is Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon responding to a question related to ESG.
andrew ross sorkin
This is Vanguard's CEO, just wrote this recently, said, we cannot state that ESG, environmental, social and governance investing, is better performance-wise than broad-index investing.
Our research indicates that ESG investing does not have any advantage over broad-based investing.
What do you think of that as somebody who I think has advocated for the ideas around ESG?
unidentified
Well, I'm a big advocate for climate transition, but it's just that.
It's a transition that's going to go on over a long period of time.
I think one of the things we do as an asset manager is we meet the needs of capital allocators.
And capital allocators are interested in allocating some capital, not all of their capital, some capital, towards technologies, towards opportunities that are driving the transition, that are making the world more sustainable, you know, for all of us.
And so I think it's important for us as an asset manager to participate in that.
andrew ross sorkin
But what do you make of the political blowback?
And how is that impacted your thinking about all of this?
unidentified
The political blowback really hasn't affected my thinking that meaningfully.
I've always been of the belief that it's important for us to try to be constructive in allocating risk capital and driving risk capital toward technologies that can accelerate the transition.
But it's a transition.
It's going to take decades.
dave rubin
James, I feel like you're going to have a field day with this one.
So the questioner, the interviewer is Andrew Sorkin.
I actually think he did a pretty decent job there.
In essence, he's saying, hey, these ESG funds don't really do much of anything.
And immediately the Goldman Sachs CEO starts talking about climate transition.
But I don't know that the average person who invests in a fund that Goldman Sachs is managing is really thinking, oh, what can I do for the environment?
They generally want to make a couple bucks on their investment.
Take it away.
james lindsay
Oh my God, I could talk about this for the entire show.
dave rubin
Can you give the people the simplest, I know my audience knows it, but can you give them the simplest explanation of ESG first before we go any further?
james lindsay
Yeah, so ESG, it stands for E as Environmental, S as Social, and G as Governance.
It's a measuring stick that they're using to judge corporations and institutions about how compliant they are with whatever they, whether it's at the United Nations where ESG was created in 2003, Whether it's at Davos, whatever these, you know, grand poobahs and oligarchs decide are acceptable environmental, social and governing policies for corporations and institutions.
They score institutions on how well they comply with those particular mandates.
So it's a tool of control.
It's actually a social credit system for corporations and large institutions.
So that's what ESG is.
It hides itself under the fake idea that Certainly good environmental policy, social policy, and corporate governance could lead to better long-term investment portfolios if they were done maybe in a realistic way, as opposed to under the dictates of Al Gore or Klaus Schwab or something like this.
But what the guy said is actually amazing.
What he said is so shocking.
So we see now that ESG is failing.
There's a gigantic crusade against ESG, which I'm happy to take a fair share of the credit for starting.
And and unfortunately, or fortunately, whatever, this fella is like, I don't care about the blowback.
I care about a transition, a complete transition of our system and a climate transition, he calls it.
But this is a transition to climate communism.
It's a transition to more control, centralized control, more what they call global cooperation toward their central control, meaning everybody has to do it.
Or else there'll be sanctions.
There'll be fines.
There'll be, I don't know, maybe they'll just destroy our infrastructure or something until we comply.
There'll be another pandemic.
Who knows?
There's going to be all these kinds of things that we have to do to make sure that everybody complies so that we can transition to a new sustainable economy as they describe it.
In fact, the ESG tool is used to prop up the United Nations Agenda 2030 Sustainable Development Goals.
He calls it a transition.
They call those 17 goals to transform our world.
And that's the same transition transform.
It's the same program.
But the goal is to shift onto a model they call stakeholder capitalism,
what they call a circular economy where we consume our own waste,
which sounds delicious and very much like a snake eating its own tail,
but in the grossest possible way.
And this is their objective to make what, if you look back through the Marxist literature in the 50s
and 60s and 70s, they were writing that the problem with capitalism isn't
that it immiserates workers like Marx had said, it's that it's not sustainable.
So we have to make capitalism sustainable in some way while simultaneously making socialism
productive. And what we're dealing with under ESG and the sustainable development goals is the
bid to do this at global scale.
And to force all of us into it, eating bugs and living in pods and 15 minute cities and all of this nonsense.
dave rubin
Libby, is this just one of the things that it's like sort of not sexy enough for the average person to understand?
So they might have some money in a Goldman Sachs fund or in something that's ancillarily related, and they may not even realize that actually the companies are not going to do the best thing to, say, get a return on your investment, but rather climate transition and everything else that James just described.
libby emmons
Yeah, I do think that is an issue.
And I think that your average consumer of financial products is not looking to save the world by investing.
They're just looking to have something in their retirement so that perhaps they don't have to lean on their kids or the government as they age.
And the other thing, too, about this, and consumers are not, I think, at their base looking for all of this nonsense.
But the other piece of it is that all of these DEI initiatives and climate initiatives that are being
pushed through with ESG don't actually do what they purport to do, right? So when you say like we're
investing in wind, we're investing in solar, we're investing in all of these things, they're only
looking at the final product and what that means for the consumption of fossil fuels at like
the consumer level. They're not looking at the manufacturing processes of solar panels, for
example, or lithium batteries or superconductors or the kind of cells that are needed to
that are needed to store this kind of energy and what that takes.
store this kind of energy and what that takes. So they're only looking at these very limited
So they're only looking at these very limited areas and it's the limited areas that can make these people
areas and it's the limited areas that can make these people feel good about themselves because they're
feel good about themselves because they're not seeing the detrimental impacts.
not seeing the detrimental impacts.
But at the same time, the rest of the world is seeing these detrimental impacts. We're seeing
But at the same time, the rest of the world is seeing these detrimental impacts.
We're seeing issues, environmental issues, created with wind farms off the coasts,
unidentified
issues, environmental issues, created with wind farms off lithium batteries or superconductors or the kind of cells
libby emmons
the whales dying, all of this kind of stuff.
So the stated goals are not even being met by this nonsense and it is going to damage people's investments.
If you're a consumer of financial products and you're looking to do something activist in the world,
don't do it with your money.
Do it with your own self.
Go out there and, you know, pick up some trash by the riverbed or what have you.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
dave rubin
You're asking young people to actually do something, not just say they're doing something?
libby emmons
Yes.
Yes, that is always my take.
dave rubin
True radical.
But speaking of stated goals that are not really doing what they're supposed to be doing, I remember a feminist movement a long time ago that was about equality.
Women wanted equality in the workplace and everywhere else, but unfortunately that has very little to do with the modern feminist movement.
And as you guys know, it's very important, March, we just got out of Black History Month was February, and I celebrate it every day.
This is Women's, what is it, Women's History Month, are we calling it?
Are we calling it International Women's Month?
And Hershey, which I thought their whole thing was about making good chocolate, they put out this incredible ad to celebrate the moment.
unidentified
My name is Faye Johnstone.
I'm the executive director of Wisdom to Action.
We can create a world where everyone is able to live in public space as their honest and authentic selves.
See the woman changing how we see the future at Hershey's Canada.
dave rubin
Libby will do women first.
She's a dude.
Man.
Chick.
libby emmons
Yeah.
dave rubin
I mean, what?
libby emmons
She's a man, baby.
For real.
Yeah.
So Canada is totally off the rails.
It's not even a real country.
It's a totally fake place at this point.
dave rubin
Oh wait, just to be clear, this came from Canada's Hershey subsidiary or whatever.
libby emmons
You can tell because it has a two at the beginning of the LGBT alphabet soup and the two is for two-spirit, which I don't know how it's not cultural appropriation to put that in your very Western weird thing, but what have you.
Justin Trudeau knows and we all just have to count on that.
Yeah, I'm personally very sick and tired of men standing up there with long hair and makeup on and telling me they know better than anyone else, than any woman, what it is to be a woman.
I'm sick of empowering a whole bunch of essentially straight white men to get up there and tell us that they're women while they claim to be lesbians and demand access to all sorts of women's spaces.
The whole thing is so marvelously insane.
That I think a lot of people when they first started seeing this coming around the bend just thought, that's so obviously stupid, that can't be the way that we're going with these kinds of things, and now it is!
Now here it is.
dave rubin
Oh, but we can!
James, can you please put this chick in her place as a woman yourself?
james lindsay
Yeah, you gotta like settle down here for this month, Libby.
Yeah, just hold up.
Well, what I see is a chocolate bar that's got nuts in it that's not being advertised as having nuts in it, but maybe people have peanut allergies.
You never know.
dave rubin
I got it.
I got it.
james lindsay
Yeah, right.
So, I mean, that dude has a vocal fry down.
I wish I could do that.
That's a woman thing.
If we can celebrate in woman month is vocal fry, septum piercing.
No, but what we see is the complete inversion of reality.
What we see is another opportunity, as you saw, to talk about reality and upside down world.
This is your authentic self, she called, or he called, it called itself.
Authentic self, literally pretending to be what you're not, literally demanding people celebrate and affirm you for what you're not.
And that's actually the magic formula.
It starts off with, we should tolerate this.
It progresses to we have to, Accept this.
It goes beyond that and we have to now celebrate it.
And then at some point we have to participate in it to some degree.
We have to participate in the lie.
We have to participate in the delusion.
If you don't want to eat the Nuts No Nuts chocolate bar, you're probably a bigot.
If you don't want this man in a woman's space, you're definitely a bigot.
If you aren't interested in his lady thing, you are, as a woman, you are definitely transphobic and you make all of your sexual decisions and personal decisions in your life based on genitals and how disgusting and crass you are.
Of course, what we see throughout is just projection, total projection of severe pathology that is being encouraged and affirmed, especially in children, rather than dealt with, treated, tamped down, The role of our institutions, especially our schools, for example, children will see commercials like this, they may have questions, they should go to the school.
The officials in the school should be bringing them back to reality, not encouraging them into the delusion.
There is no other dysphoric, if we want to use that word, condition that we encourage, that we push people, kids, further into.
We don't say, oh my gosh, you're so anorexic, let's get you liposuction and do a gastric bypass on you to help you out.
We don't do that anywhere else.
We say we have to bring you back to reality.
We have to help you in other ways.
It's a catastrophe.
dave rubin
And what's interesting also is that to link it to the ESG part of this, it's like Hershey could have done an ad for International Women's Month and just shown women eating chocolate and no one would have cared or maybe people would have watched it or not watched it.
So it's almost like this clearly is by design, either because of the ideology that you're describing or just because they want to get the clicks and views.
And in this case, they're doing it.
I don't know if you guys know, I live in the free state of Florida.
I've mentioned it once or twice on the show.
And we're doing something about this nonsense when it comes to our schools and our corporations.
Here's Governor Ron DeSantis.
unidentified
You got a lot of corporations too.
They're getting involved in the race game.
We know they're already getting involved in the transgender game.
You had a little tussle with Disney.
Is corporate America on notice with Ron DeSantis as you get a little bit of a bigger profile?
ron desantis
So my view is, is I gotta protect the people of Florida, their freedoms, and if woke corporations are threatening their freedoms, then I have to contend with that, and I have to stand up for them.
So, for example, we passed the Stop Woke Act in Florida that, yes, bans CRT in the K-12 schools, but it also gave employees of private corporations the ability to opt out of this CRT training, where they're basically made to self-flagellate Libby, isn't this just what we've all been waiting for, for a long time?
that that's appropriate.
So yes, we're willing to step up and support people's freedoms.
At the end of the day, you have a right to make your own decisions,
live freely without having the left's agenda crammed down your throat.
And whether that's in a school or whether that's at the hands
of a multinational corporation, we're on your side, not on theirs.
dave rubin
Libby, isn't this just what we've all been waiting for for a long time, like a politician to just calmly,
cleanly say the truth and help us get out of this endless, bottomless pit that they've thrown us into?
libby emmons
Yeah, I do think that that's right.
And it's interesting that DeSantis takes this perspective.
And then from the federal government, you have these endless pushes of diversity, equity and inclusion executive orders.
The president just wants to rule by fiat from the Oval Office.
And he's instructing every single federal agency to enact additional staff and bring in all of these extra people to make sure that the agencies are being compliant with all of these advancing equity goals.
No one really knows what advancing equity means except for destroying a meritocracy and reducing all of our government agencies and programs to race-based initiatives that are not fair, that are not at all egalitarian.
And yeah, I think that across the country people appreciate what DeSantis is doing.
We saw that with the parental rights and education bill, which was marvelously popular across
the country.
No matter how much the progressive left tried to slam it as "don't say gay," which a simple
read of I think was a three-page bill will show you that it has nothing to do with that
dave rubin
The word gay is not in the bill.
I was with the governor and the first lady three days ago showing them pictures of my kids.
This thing is so stupid.
James, did you see, I feel like you must have tweeted about this and maybe I missed it because Twitter is still so screwy.
This guy Sam, I think it's Sam Brighton who was the like assistant secretary to nuclear waste, something or other.
I don't think he, I don't think he considers himself trans, but I guess he dresses often like a woman.
libby emmons
He's non-binary.
dave rubin
Oh, okay, so he's non-binary.
But it turns out that this guy has been stealing luggage for years from airports, you know, when you go downstairs to get your luggage after the flight.
And it now has turned out that in 2018, he stole a bag of luggage from a black woman and has been wearing her dresses and posting pictures all over... A fashion designer!
Yeah, a fashion designer.
Nobody, so you have a man dressing like a woman stealing a, and he's white, stealing a black woman's dresses, wearing them.
And of course he's progressive.
unidentified
I mean, it's like, what?
dave rubin
I don't even have a question on that.
You want to just do something over there?
james lindsay
I'll just riff a little.
I'm glad you brought that up because it actually ties back to the previous segment.
It ties back to this ESG issue, ties back to even what DeSantis said, because DeSantis is trying to protect people from workplace.
He said self-flagellations.
These are actually brainwashing sessions.
These are Maoist brainwashing sessions.
That's easy to prove.
Once you study Mao, which they don't let us do in our redwashed education, uh, we have, they say whitewashed, it's actually redwashed.
It's completely communist, uh, sympathizing.
But what you have in international women's month or whatever, whatever women's history month, whatever March now is for the first time in history is And I saw this coming out a month or two ago, and this character is a perfect example of it.
So is the Hershey person.
What we have is this push towards something they're calling Women Plus, which I think is women plus a hot dog, but I'm not quite positive what the plus is.
It's Women Plus, Girls Plus.
And in fact, what they're saying is that this new feminist push that they're bringing out to revitalize another turn of the identity politics screw on America is going to be LGBTQ+ inclusive. So it's not even Women's
Month anymore. It's this deliberate push into this. So we have to celebrate this guy who's stealing
an immigrant black woman's high fashion design dresses. We have to celebrate that because even
though it's non-binary or whatever this Sam character wants to be, this is women plus. And what people
have to understand is they're going to try to suck you in by saying, "No, if you don't support
women in International Women's Month, You're some kind of a terrible person.
But by the way, what is a woman?
Well, we know what a woman is and it's women plus, and we're going to show you women plus, uh, and we're just going to keep doing this women plus.
And so what you're getting is a bunch of, frankly, what it's going to be as a big leverage campaign, primarily on corporations, which will fall for it because they're completely lost in ESG.
And in white suburban liberal wine moms to accept that the definition of woman has expanded to woman plus and trans women are women plus is going to be a completely true statement because women plus will be defined to accept them.
And the goal will be to get people in institutional positions to accept women plus, and these trainings at work will be geared toward getting women to accept and men to accept that women plus is the correct way to understand women.
Under this new push, under this new fake month that they've created out of thin air, and decided we all have to participate in.
dave rubin
James, as well said as that was, you could have just said she doesn't look great in an off-the-shoulder number, or he, or whatever it is.
But to prove how specific... That's true.
I think that's what it was really all boiling down to.
But to show you how stupid this whole thing is, we played it a couple times during the campaign when Joe Biden Repeatedly said, but there's one moment where he really drove it home, repeatedly said that it should not be the sex on your birth certificate that sends you to a male or female prison.
It should be what sex you identify as.
Now we know that biological men are going to women's prisons and raping and beating women.
Apparently this is the feminist position now.
Merrick Garland was asked about just that.
unidentified
When it comes to federal prisons, are you aware that 1,200 prisoners are requesting To be sent from a male prison to a female prison?
I'm not, no.
Okay.
What is our policy when it comes to allowing a male prisoner to be transitioned into a female prison?
I think if you're generally asking the question of how Trans people are dealt with in the Bureau of Prisons.
My understanding is that these are determinations about where they're placed or where people are placed in general.
Have to do with individualized determinations regarding the security of that individual.
And the management of the prison.
These are done on a case-by-case basis.
That's my understanding.
Are you aware of any policy guidelines that they use to make that determination?
I think there is a policy guideline along the lines that I just said.
I would like for the Bureau of Prisons to send it to us.
Are you concerned that if a biological male is sent to a female prison, that could be a risk to female prisoners?
I think every person in prison has to be dealt with with dignity and respect.
dave rubin
Well, every person except the chicks in the women's prison, apparently.
For the record, I watched every episode of Orange is the New Black, and frankly, a woman's prison seems far scarier to me than a men's prison.
Libby, surprised?
I guess not surprised.
Like what?
libby emmons
I've talked to women who are out of prison, but who were in prison with men.
I've talked to women who are currently serving time alongside men in the women's prison.
And these are real problems.
Unfortunately, when you bring up something like this, why are there men in women's prisons?
No one really cares because these women are already at the bottom of society.
They're women, they are criminals, they in many cases are poor,
they were already in many cases subject to domestic abuse and violence,
which led in a lot of cases to their arriving in prison in the first place.
So, one woman that I talked to who is currently serving time in the Central California Women's Correctional Facility has told me about when men come into the prisons there, they self-ID in, they are fully intact, they have not cut off their hot dogs, everything's still perfectly functioning, and the prisons will They will vacate an eight woman cell in order to accommodate one man who will then be housed in that cell.
They are given roommates who are women and they end up in many cases in sexual relationships with these women.
It's not just abuse and rape, but it's also the entirely changing dynamic that happens when a man enters a woman's space.
And there's rivalries and things like this.
Um, this woman was also telling me about how a trans inmate, um, impregnated a woman at the prison and then beat her to the point where she miscarried because, uh, this was not something that they wanted to have exposed.
And the fetus was, uh, the miscarried fetus was buried in the prison yard.
Um, she's told me that guards are aware of this.
People are aware of this, but no one really wants to talk about it.
There are women who are advocating for these women who are in prison who are being doubly subjected.
This is a cruel and unusual punishment in a lot of cases.
There's a man in a California women's prison who is currently housed with the mother of the children that he murdered.
So that's interesting as well.
That happens in many cases.
There's cases in the UK where women who were raped are forced by judges to refer to their rapists as she, because that rape is determined after the rape and while involved in the criminal justice system, that actually he is female.
And this is inflicted upon women.
And I would like to say, we have seen historically, and that's how we ended up with a Women's History Month in the first place.
Women are substantially more compliant than men.
Women are raised to be, you know, a little kinder and more compassionate.
It is easy to push women around.
We all know, we all know this.
This is not a new phenomenon.
And so when you have these feminist women who came up saying like, yay, women's power.
And now the men are all like, Hey lady, like we're actually female.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Sure.
We, we just want to be accepted and loved and cherished and cared for.
And now you're telling us that you're actually female.
We will just believe you because you say it and you're actually the big strong man.
So, uh, yeah, I think that there's a lot of weirdness going on here.
There's a lot of cognitive dissonance among women who scream empowerment for women and are actually perfectly willing to subject themselves to, you know, the whims of these In many cases, bigger men, bigger, stronger men.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
James, to the point of the stories that Libby just laid out, I mean, isn't Garland's response just exactly what we get out of this administration related to anything?
Lindsey Graham's question was pretty good.
He said, what is the policy?
And Garland twice basically said, well, I kind of don't know the policy, but the policy is just case by case.
In which case?
It's self-ID.
Right, so in which case you're just gonna let through probably, I don't know the number off the top of my head, but I'm gonna guess something like 90% of these people who have a series of psychological problems on top of the physical differences and everything else, and they most likely committed a pretty heinous act in the first place to get them there, they're gonna go right through.
But this is exactly what this government has done with almost everything, right?
james lindsay
Yeah, so let me give some historical color to that because this government has been tried before.
It didn't work before, it won't work this time, There's a character in history, because we have this redwashed education that I mentioned before, that I go all over the country, as you know, I speak all over the country, I speak to audiences of hundreds of people at a time, and I ask them a question very frequently from the stage.
Raise your hand if you've ever heard of Trofim Lysenko.
It's a very famous name in history, and if you haven't heard of it, it's a bit of a problem, and virtually nobody raises their hand.
Out of 300 people, three or four or five will raise their hand in a typical audience, even though I do this all over the place, and people follow me and I talk about him a lot.
What we're looking at is a phenomenon that is called Lysenkoism.
Lysenkoism is when you have—Lysenko was, I should say, a biologist and an agriculturalist under Stalin.
He put out Soviet biology, Soviet agriculture, and he believed all kinds of crazy things about plants and genetics that are not true, and millions of people starved in Ukraine, millions of people starved in Russia.
Millions of people starved again in China when Mao Zedong picked this up and decided to use the Lysenkoist biology, even though it had killed so many in the Soviet Union.
When you have an overriding of reality that's coming down unquestionably from a corrupt government, and here we're looking at the Attorney General of the United States, literally overriding basics of biology like male and female are fundamentally different.
They are not the same thing.
They are not transmutable.
They are not fungible.
When you have the communist-based or whatever-based ideology overriding reality as a matter of policy, what you're dealing with is Lysenkoism.
Lysenkoism killed millions and millions of people in the Soviet Union, and in China, it will kill millions of people in the United States.
This is just one dynamic within that.
It's leading to the rapes, the murders, the myriad problems in women's prisons.
It's dealing with the same thing in women's sports and girls' locker rooms.
Then we can, of course, connect that back to what it's doing to young girls.
I just heard the other day that the primary demographic, of course, that's getting into the trans movement to gain social status and character or whatever they're after is girls aged 10 to 14, which simultaneously, through some weird mystery I'm thinking must be a mystery, is also the demographic that is increasing in suicide at the fastest rate at the same time.
What a crazy coincidence that is.
But what we have is a rejection of reality for an ideological drive, which is called Lysenkoism.
And until Americans understand that we're going through the same motions in different packaging that places like the Soviet Union and places like the CCP, China under Mao Zedong already went, and that the consequences will be the same, until we understand that, and that ties back to Greta Thunberg also with environmental farming or whatever, where we're all going to eat lentils, nobody can have any meat, we can't have any energy, whatever This is all the same thing.
This is Lysenkoism brought back and millions, if not tens or hundreds of millions of people will suffer, will be castrated, will be sterilized, will die, will be immiserated.
You had a great line in there.
Rejection of reality for ideological drive.
I mean, that seems to capture it more than anything else.
It's just history rhyming again and people I think are too asleep at the wheel and too under-informed
Because of our redwashed education system to realize what we're doing. You had a great line in there rejection of
dave rubin
reality for ideological drive I mean that that seems to capture it more than anything
else. Let's just do one more story here Which is actually connected to that very notion
The January 6 tapes Kevin McCarthy is going to release them or in essence
He's given about 40,000 hours of the tapes the security footage etc to Tucker Carlson
And I assume at the moment Tucker Carlson's team is going through them and as I keep saying on this show
The truth is a time-release pill and I suspect we are gonna find out some more truth
Over the next coming weeks as Tucker releases some of this stuff.
But there was a really just telling moment on the televised mental institution known as MSNBC.
Journalist Dana Milbank talking about how scary it is that we might actually get transparency from this government.
They love trans, just not transparency.
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Speaker Kevin McCarthy is under fire for sharing about 44,000 hours of surveillance camera footage from January 6th with Fox News host Tucker Carlson.
Other media organizations, including NBC News, have demanded access to the tapes as well.
The Speaker is more than just a political leader.
They also oversee the day-to-day administration of the Capitol, including security.
Is there something unprecedented about what McCarthy has done here, Dana?
Yeah, I mean, day after day it seems that he breaks precedent after precedent.
Look, I understand why the other media are asking for the same thing.
The truth is this doesn't belong in the public domain for anybody.
dave rubin
That's the line.
This doesn't belong in the public domain.
We are told that there was an insurrection, that the United States almost fell on that day, despite these people having no plans.
Apparently one guy had a Lego set, he didn't even bring it, of the Capitol.
AOC was freaking out.
But we should not know about this stuff.
I take it you're not surprised, Libby.
They're better than us and they know, right?
libby emmons
Yes, these are our superiors and we must bow down before their superior judgment.
I, for one, I'm glad that there's going to be some transparency.
I think that the people who went into the Capitol and the people who were around the Capitol and the journalists who were not credentialed but were documenting what was going on that day have been substantially ill-treated and ignored.
And I think that that's really a shame, especially when you compare it to the sweetheart deals and, you know, compassionate treatment that Was given to the rioters in the summer of 2020.
I'm thinking specifically of the ones in Portland against whom I believe so many charges were dropped, even though they were trying to set the federal buildings on fire repeatedly, like night after night for more than 100 nights.
I believe it was.
I think it ended up being something like 120 nights that this went on.
Yeah.
And I'd like to see what was really going on.
There's been a lot of talk about perhaps there were federal agents involved.
If the government can disprove that, then maybe they ought to.
There's been talk about, and this is something that you've seen on Tucker Carlson as well, Capitol Police officers opening doors and all of this kind of stuff.
What was really going on?
What was the relationship there?
What kind of encouragement were these people getting from law enforcement if that was happening?
And yeah, the way that they have used January 6th as a cudgel to beat anyone who disagrees with the leftist progressive narrative Means that we get to see literally every second of footage because they're going to continue to use this against all of us who don't agree with the Biden administration for years.
We're just seeing that, you know, they keep coming out with stuff about that as they're starting to quiet down and their little commission had to get disbanded at the end of the last Congress.
We haven't heard as much about it, but I do respect and appreciate McCarthy for giving over this Yeah, and you know, I will give the devil his due here.
dave rubin
I mean, McCarthy, if he wanted to do this, I suppose in the most clean way, maybe he could have just released it all together, whatever that means, you know, just put it out there on the internet and let people go through it.
Or he could have said, hey, I'm giving it to Tucker, but I'm also giving it to Anderson Cooper or something.
So I think there's a little degree of, by going to someone who obviously is partisan, I like Tucker, but like, he is what he is, obviously.
I'll give them a little nudge on that.
But that's not really what this is about, right, James?
Because clearly they're going to find some stuff in there, perhaps more videos of officers literally removing barriers and welcoming people in and things like that.
And that's the last thing that the mainstream media wants to get out there, right?
james lindsay
Well, I mean, before we can give more commentary, I think we all need to have a moment of silence for AOC.
Nobody has died this many times over this, this terrible event.
dave rubin
She keeps coming back like Freddy Krueger.
james lindsay
Yeah, it's amazing, but we've got to hold out for that.
We've got to have a vigil.
I think we should go to the border and cry by a fence.
Um, there are a lot of things we should be doing, but the fact of the matter is the way that they're framing this is actually, to me, hilarious because it's proof that much like January 6th itself, they don't have anything.
Um, they're framing it that it threatens capital security.
This is the angle that they're going after.
Oh, there might be another disaster.
There might be a stochastic terrorist might show up.
There might be some lone wolf.
There might be another coordination for a real insurrection since the last one was obviously so fake that the friendly police officers asking people to stay between the ropes were able to contain it entirely or whatever.
But they don't have anything here.
This thing is a fraud, and they know it's a fraud, and they know that if people are able to see this, Whether, and I do agree with you that it going to Tucker specifically does leave a gap in the story that is a partisan, you know, uh, kind of ad hominem, but at any rate, it is what it is.
They realize that when this goes to the public, people are going to see through the fraud.
And this I think is one of the paralyzing fears of this regime or administration in general is that the fraud is a time bomb for them.
It's only a matter of time until things start to come out.
The truth has a way of worming its way out.
And in this case, they are desperate to try to get a clamp back on this story because they know that it was never what they said it was.
And they've used it as such a damaging political cudgel.
They've used it as an excuse to jail political opponents.
They've used it as an excuse to try to rewrite our laws around to try to disenfranchise President Trump from being able to run again.
They've used it in a wide variety of completely communist ways, frankly, and the fraud is going to get exposed as the truth comes out.
So what they have to do is try to put a lid on it.
And what is their favorite last-ditch effort when they have to try?
It's usually their first line of attack and their last line of attack when they have to try to get a lid on something.
Well, of course, it's that it threatens safety in some way.
This is going to threaten our safety.
The Capitol, somehow this footage, like we haven't already seen lots of it, is somehow going to compromise secret entrances to the Capitol or whatever.
By the way, did anybody figure out who planted that bomb?
Has that been done yet?
dave rubin
No, no, we're not allowed to ask about that one.
james lindsay
I wonder if that's in the footage.
That would be great.
So, I mean, this is just proof that they don't have anything and they know that they're likely to get exposed.
I think it's extremely transparent there.
Acting in a paranoid and anxious way.
They're bringing up completely ridiculous things.
We have Dana saying that it shouldn't be in the hands of anybody.
So again, we go back to the point, like you said, these are our betters.
These are our Gnostic overlords who know how to interpret everything like that footage to come out to insurrection, which everybody understands is fake.
And we're all supposed to just accept their expert opinion, not promulgate misinformation or disinformation like the tapes themselves.
And that's the The warp and the weft of this entire administration, for all the same reasons I'm talking about.
dave rubin
And to that point, yeah, to that point, so we've got one more clip for you.
This is Eric Swalwell.
Now, Eric Swalwell, we know, had a relationship with a Chinese spy.
McCarthy has said this multiple times, and you know it's true, because if it wasn't true, the mainstream media would be going after McCarthy.
But they're not, so it is true.
He has talked to people at the FBI.
He said it on my show a year and a half ago, but he's repeatedly said it.
Since he's been House leader.
But anyway, Eric Swalwell, Democrat congressman from California, here he is freaking out over the release of the tapes.
And it's fairly obvious because it's just what you just said, James.
He knows there's something there.
eric swalwell
Well, we're seeing week by week that now Kevin McCarthy has to pay a new installment on that corrupt bargain, right?
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So last week, the installment was to give Tucker Carlson unfettered access to police footage, sensitive police footage of the Capitol on January 6th.
You know, there's no good ending to that.
It's either going to be used to distort what happened on January 6th by Tucker Carlson, or you just gave the proudest boy of all a blueprint for the Capitol.
Who knows where that will land for the next insurrection that could be planned.
dave rubin
I really despise this guy.
I mean, I at this point hate a lot of people in government, but this guy, I mean, the implication he calls him the proudest boy of all, somehow that Tucker Carlson is either a white supremacist or something like that.
You know, the other piece on the Tucker part of this is that I feel like I can say this fairly honestly.
I know Tucker well enough That if they go through all 40,000 hours and there's nothing there, that's exactly what he would say.
I don't think he's sitting there to edit this in a weird way.
I really, really do not.
But Libby, that's what this is all about, right?
Like, Swalwell knows this is just gonna be another one of those things where we're allowed to tell you the truth basically a year or two later, right?
libby emmons
Yeah, and I think it's so interesting that that keeps happening.
We saw that I think we're going to see that with the January 6 footage.
We saw that with the lab leak.
How many people lost their jobs and their Twitter accounts and all of their friends and everything for declaring that COVID came out of a lab in Wuhan and now the FBI and the Energy Department.
I think maybe perhaps it came out of a lab.
Perhaps it was leaked from a lab.
We've seen that so many times.
The thing about masks, whether or not masks work, you know, the Two weeks to stop the spread, lockdowns, all of these things.
The conspiracy theorists keep being right.
You know, conspiracy theorists is actually another word for way ahead of the curve.
And it's a shame what's been done to our mainstream media.
I lament the loss of, you know, the New York Times and the Washington Post and all of these outlets that have these big departments full of resources to go do the digging.
And because of their ideological perspective, they're just not willing to do it.
It's a shame.
I think that it makes sense that Tucker was the one to get the footage because I think that his team is probably pretty honest and straightforward.
And like you said, they're gonna dig into it.
If they find something, they'll say.
If they don't find something, they'll say that as well.
I don't think MSNBC would be even remotely as considerate in that regard.
dave rubin
Right, and the bigger problem would be even if he gave one set of it to Tucker and one set to someone at MSNBC, we're all so divided at this point that they'll show you the exact same thing and analyze it in a completely different way.
So maybe it's a mood point.
James, I know you like phrases.
You're a man of history.
You like phrases that succinctly say things.
So, you know, my line on this has been that truth is a time-release pill.
But for now on, I think I'm going to call this time-truth disorder.
What do you think about that?
Time-truth disorder.
james lindsay
I like that, actually.
That's what it is.
It really is.
I mean, a friend of mine, Wade Miller, calls conspiracy theories future facts, and I kind of like that as well.
But speaking of, you know, conspiracy theories and being unable to look at Eric Swalwell's face, I happened to notice the CIA emblem over his shoulder and kind of fixated on that while he's sitting there talking.
The point I really want to draw out from that clip was that comment you regarded, or that you brought up, where he regarded Tucker Carlson as the proudest boy of them all.
And so this is that appeal to the proud boy.
So I'm going to do a callback to something I mentioned earlier, which is that book, Beautiful Trouble, which is available online for free.
I think anybody who wants to understand leftist activism needs to go read it.
You're not a serious player in what's happening if you haven't looked at Beautiful Trouble.
Another one of their core principles is your target's reaction is your real action.
So, by provoking society through the things that happened in 2020, through the things that have happened since, through the drag queens, they get this organization to come into formation called the Proud Boys.
The Proud Boys show up to things, they act in a, you know, quietly or modestly, or in sometimes not intimidating manner.
They're an anti-antifa, if you will, an opposite of, a dialectical opposite of antifa.
And they have become—that is a reaction to the provocations of BLM, Antifa, etc., that have been happening, Drag Queen Story Hour, that have been happening throughout the country.
Those are provocations.
They're strategic provocations.
This is unconventional warfare.
And they have generated that reaction and listened to what they do with it.
It comes up every single time.
So when you react badly, when you react the way that they want you to react, They are weaponizing you for their narratives, for the different tools that they're going to use, for the justification to, you know, have to shut things down or control speech or control thought or control whatever.
Um, so Proud Boys became an emblem in that it's the reaction.
And you can actually say, if you understand the principle in Beautiful Trouble, that that reaction was exactly the thing that they needed.
Just like the event in J6 was exactly the thing that they needed, even though it wasn't because it didn't pan out the way that they could have really used it.
To drive a narrative that something's happening in this country that's the opposite of what's really happening.
There was an insurrection on January 6th.
I know there was an insurrection on November 3rd or whatever it was previously.
So they cover up their own insurrection with the fake insurrection.
They cover up the fact of Antifa violence with drag queen story hour provocations, drag queen performances for children and now babies apparently everywhere.
with, well, the Proud Boys are violent and we have to resist this anti-LGBTQ hate, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And so that understanding that they are provoking reactions and using re-reactions is what Greta does.
She provokes a reaction.
She fake gets arrested, puts it on a camera.
Understanding that this is a fundamental objective, a fundamental tool of their activism that keeps moving the ball for them, allows us to figure out ways to short circuit that and sidestep it.
So I really just want to draw your attention to the fact that he said, proudest boy of them all, to loop Tucker Carlson
into that narrative arc that they're using with so much productivity on your kind of average,
not paying attention, scared leftist, suburban wine mom or whatever that's paying attention
to these mental asylums called CNN and MSNBC and so on.
dave rubin
James, I don't think I can top that as a closing So I want to thank you, James, you Libby, you guys are awesome as always.
I am going to re-ice this thing and put a teething toy on my eye and hopefully make it through the weekend.
I thank you guys.
I thank everybody for watching.
And actually there's no post game show today because I'm actually in New York right now because I did Gutfeld last night, but I will be on Dan Bongino's Unfiltered Saturday night on Fox.
And hopefully I survive New York City and make it back.
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