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unidentified		All the children in the state have been wearing masks since the beginning.
		It's not that big a deal.
		It'll help save lives, keep people healthy, and that's all we're asking for.
		So there has been some pushback, but we're not backing down from this.
		We think it's important.
		People, I'm Dave Rubin.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		This is The Rubin Report.
		It's February 2nd, 2023.
		We're live-streaming on Rumble YouTube and Locals.
		Subscribe if you have not.
		And today is a Locals Community Q&A, so if you want to see if you can get a last-second question in, we will allow it.
		Join us at rubinreport.locals.com.
		The Locals community is blowing up and that gives me a good moment to mention that I can officially tell you that January was by far, I know I've said it a bunch lately, but it's worth repeating, not to pat myself on the back, although I can pat these guys on the back for their hard work, but I think something good is happening here because January was by far our biggest month on YouTube alone.
		It was our best month, I think by 64%.
		If you have a month increase of 10%, that's good.
		20%, that's fantastic.
		30, kind of unheard of, et cetera, et cetera.
		64%, also Rumble is just on like a hockey stick of growth right now.
		All the social media stuff, people are paying attention.
		We're working hard, I think, doing something that's relevant.
		So that's just a little thank you up top to you guys because the engine is clean and effective and the machine is rolling, so all good.
		Before we do the community Q&A, though, I wanted to do this story.
		You know, I don't do much about sort of the inter-drama of the YouTube people, right?
		I mostly stick to politics.
		I stick to the culture wars and all that kind of stuff and some philosophy and whatever it might be.
		But I don't get into like the nitty gritty of the YouTube game.
		And there's an entire YouTube ecosystem of people that are making videos to destroy this person and that person counters the video to take out this person.
		And then they sort of, their mutually assured destruction actually makes a lot of money for everybody because they're getting clicks by going after this person.
		It's sort of like when rappers are fighting each other.
		You're Biggie Smalls and you're, give me another rapper.
		You've got your Tupac.
		He's no longer with us.
		Biggie's not with us either.
		Man, all my rap heroes are gone.
		But, you know, these guys would go at each other.
		I don't know if those two were.
		Those two were probably fighting somehow, right?
		Somebody's fighting, or you got your Iggy Azalea fighting your Beyonce, Jay-Z.
		The point is, they get into these things, and I'm not saying there's nothing there, but then it's good for everybody.
		You sell more albums, you get more clicks, blah, blah, blah.
		So there's a lot of this sort of thing on YouTube, but there was an interesting controversy on YouTube.
		And I wonder, I'm actually totally curious.
		We'll look in the comments to hear from you guys.
		How many of you heard about this controversy?
		Because this is super interesting.
		There is a guy, a young guy, who goes by the name Mr. Beast on YouTube.
		I'm guessing he's probably in his late 20s.
		Do we even know how old this guy is?
		How old?
		24.
		Wow.
		He's 24 years old.
		This guy has become... He's worth probably hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.
		He does all sorts of videos.
		And a lot of what he does is giving people money.
		He gives people money.
		He helps people buy houses and cars and get their life in order.
		He seems to be doing a lot of good stuff from anything that I've seen.
		And his stuff does show up on my YouTube feed constantly.
		Anything that I've seen.
		Seems like he's doing good stuff.
		That's what I've been able to see.
		In any event, he decided to pay For a thousand people to get their blindness reversed.
		There are procedures that can be done for a specific type of blindness to actually get your blindness reversed.
		You are blind one moment, you have the procedure, you can see next.
		And he paid and then made a big video about it for this to happen, this procedure to happen for a thousand people and literally all over the world.
		He went to multiple countries to do this.
		It's really fantastic.
		We're going to show you a little bite of it.
		But the reason I wanted to show you this is because there was a huge blowback against him for doing what strikes me as a seriously nice thing.
	It's good for him, too.
	Obviously, he gets some PR and he gets clicks and all that.
	But, like, using your money for good and to help people see seems pretty good.
	But YouTubers went after him.
	Mainstream media went after him.
	It was really, really bizarre.
	So I want to just unpack that a little bit and then we'll get into the community Q&A.
	And then I also want to make fun of Leonardo DiCaprio.
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	Alright, so this Mr. Beast fella, and if you're a YouTube person, one of these people that clicks around, you end up in the rabbit holes, you start watching Dave Rubin, next thing you know, you're watching the Mr. Beast, or something else.
	He's a huge TikToker, he's all over the place, this guy.
	And as I said, he's got a ton of money, and he seems, from what I can tell,
	to be doing good things with his money.
	He's a 24-year-old kid.
	He's from North Carolina.
	He has over 130 million subscribers on YouTube.
	By comparison, we have about two million.
	Now, obviously, my channel is hit with all sorts of shadow bans and everything else
	because of the politics and that sort of thing, but like, two million, and we're pretty big, right?
	Like, we're doing something over here.
	And this guy's got 130 million subscribers.
	Really nuts.
	Anyway, he reinvests all of his profits back into each video where he performs these family-friendly stunts or these big acts of philanthropy, as I've been saying.
	So now I want to show you this.
	This is a little compilation video because he did a big video on this thing.
	He did this video where he gave this incredible, truly life-changing surgery so that blind people could see to a thousand people.
	It's cataract surgery to cure their blindness.
	Here's just a little snippet.
unidentified		In this video, we're curing a thousand people's blindness.
		It's gonna be crazy.
		It's that simple.
		They can see again.
		Ooh!
		Oh!
		You paid for my surgery?
		Yes.
		Seriously?
		You know what?
		Here's $10,000.
		It could be even better.
		We're just getting started.
		We still have 980 lives left to change.
		There's my watch.
		I've never seen it before.
		Oh my god.
		Alright.
		Oh my god, man.
		There you go.
		Don't cry.
		I can see everybody's facial features now.
		It's a little blurry with my tears coming out.
		Okay.
		Yeah, I've been subscribed to you for like 11 years.
		Really?
		Oh my gosh.
		Jeremiah has been blind in his right eye since he was born, and it's affected his vision his entire life.
		Let's do this.
		How'd it go?
		Good.
		Yeah?
		Are you excited?
		Yeah.
		Take your time.
		No pressure.
		Everything looks so more clear.
		Yeah.
		To make this day even more special, since you're about to graduate high school and go to college, we wanted to give you $50,000 to put towards college.
		I didn't even think this was real.
		Like, I'm waiting to wake up.
		Oh my god.
		But we're also going to other places around the world.
		Because unfortunately, nearly half the population with curable blindness doesn't have access to this surgery.
		So I wanted to provide this to as many people as possible.
		As a thank you because you were just so gracious in this video we want to make a $100,000 donation.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		It'll bring sight to thousands of people.
		All right, so how great is this?
		Like, if there's anyone watching this, I know you guys, you're good, decent people.
		You're watching this going, oh, how heartwarming.
		It's nice.
		You could almost tear up.
		A thousand people can now see that could not see before because of cataracts, because of what this guy did.
		He's also paying for people to go to college.
		He gave the doctor another hundred grand.
		But then what happens?
		And this is so consistent.
		You'll see why I wanted to talk about this.
		This is so consistent with everything that happens in the world.
		If you try to do something good, if you do something sort of like Elon Musk trying to
		fight for free speech, then suddenly there's a litany of articles in every mainstream publication
		about how evil he is and how bad his businesses are and all that.
		This kid does this on his own volition, and it doesn't matter if he's making more money
		on these videos than he's spending.
		He's doing something really fantastic.
		But then the haters come out and there's this cascade, this endless cascade of people on YouTube going after him for this.
		He's a grifter and everything else.
		And then mainstream media goes after him, too.
		Check out this article from Forbes.
		Forbes was once a reputable place of journalism.
		Forbes is absolutely trash.
		Forbes, by the way, We just remembered this while we were playing this thing, about six months ago said that they wrote a whole article about how my audience had abandoned me because of my political positions and literally I think every month for the last six months we've broken every record and as I just said we just like smashed them into oblivion.
		Anyway, here's what Forbes said about Mr. Beast, who just helped a thousand people see, and seeing generally thought of as a good thing.
		Mr. Beast's latest video sees the YouTuber help cure the blind, partnering with SEE International to provide manual small incision cataract surgery to a thousand patients, filming their delighted reactions in the wake of a successful procedure.
		However, The video sparked controversy online, igniting an interesting ethics debate.
		Mr. Beast's habit of showering strangers with cash for content has long been a bit of a joke on Twitter because his charitable acts tend to conceal an uncomfortable truth under the shiny surface.
		The fact that these videos are created primarily for clout and profit imbue them with a dark undertone, especially when young fans view them as acts of messianic empathy.
		After all, one can't always depend on the kindness of YouTubers.
		Essentially, Mr. Beast's videos are much like those feel-good news stories that hide a bleak reality at their core.
		Like stories of children raising money to pay their parents' medical bills, or teachers having to go to extreme lengths to provide basic classroom supplies.
		Dystopian acts of desperation framed as inspirational and empowering.
		Good God, where's my barf bag from the other day?
		Because I'm going to need it.
		This led to some Twitter users voicing concerns of their discomfort, even labeling the video demonic and mocking Mr. Beast.
		But many of the critiques aimed at Mr. Beast's video were not aimed at the YouTuber, but the systems that incentivizes this kind of content.
		Political streamer Hassan Piker watched Mr. Beast's Curing Blindness video on Twitch and stated that watching it made him filled with rage.
		Piker went on to explain, we shut off access to a 10-minute procedure because we paywalled it and decided that some people simply can't get it.
		Mr. Beast is happy to take credit for enriching these people's lives, but would it be so difficult to take a few seconds per video to explain the conditions that led to his subject's suffering?
		A little context could go a long way.
		The subjects of Mr. Beast's videos are surely blessed by his interventions, but the concern is that many of the children who watch these videos are absorbing a particular ideology.
		That's the only way to change the world is to get incredibly rich, throw some of that cash in the right direction, and make sure there's a camera pointing your way.
		I must say, that is one of the most disgusting, ridiculous, Moronic things that has ever been written in mainstream media.
		We all want people to help.
		You know, everyone seems everyone seems to want the government to help.
		Maybe not you guys, but like the mainstream layer of this thing.
		Oh, the government should help.
		If only the government could take from some and do whatever a certain set of people want to do to another certain set of people.
		And it usually hurts those people.
		This guy, he's figured out to make money for himself which is fantastic probably lives a great life and he's doing all of this good work and these bitter quote-unquote journalists at Forbes that they dare even print this trash like he should have spent more time figuring out what their real problems are like you think that that kid who now can see couldn't see out of his right eye now can see who's crying and then got 50 grand you think he's looking at this like oh I hate mr. beast it's so
		Stupid, the government literally steals boatloads of your money to drop bombs on countries across the world.
		You don't even know why.
		And people are upset about this thing.
		Anyway, Mr. Beast saw a little bit of the pushback and he wrote this on Twitter.
		He wrote, Twitter, rich people should help others with their money.
		Me, okay, I'll use my money to help people and I promise to give away all my money before I die.
		Every single penny.
		Twitter, Mr. Beast bad.
		and that got almost 50 million views.
		The Babylon Bee had a great take on this thing because they saw the controversy.
		This is just perfect.
	Said, YouTuber Mr. B spends million curing people, curing blind people when he could have sent another tank
	to Ukraine.
	Absolutely perfect.
	And I just wanted to juxtapose this with something else because here you have this, again, I don't know this kid.
	It just all seems interesting to me, like a 24 year old kid doing all this good work
	and that he's making a dime on it too.
	It's great.
	It's just great all around.
	But I wanted to compare that to Leonardo DiCaprio because as you know, Leonardo DiCaprio,
	who I'm sure is worth at least 100 million bucks, and he's actually a great actor.
	He's in a ton of great movies.
	He's freaking perfect in Wolf of Wall Street.
	I even like Titanic.
	There, I said it, okay?
	I didn't like it the first time I saw it.
	Over the years, I've come to enjoy the Titanic when it's been on TNT in the afternoon and, you know, whatever.
	I don't have cable anymore, but okay, fine.
	I like Titanic.
	What are you gonna do?
	Eli David, who's a doctor who does a ton on COVID, he had an interesting tweet about Leonardo DiCaprio.
	He wrote, Leonardo DiCaprio is very concerned about climate change.
	Fun fact, his mega yacht emits more carbon in a single trip than your car in your entire lifetime.
	Now, look at that yacht there.
	It turns out that he rents that yacht.
	He does not own that yacht.
	But isn't that just the essence of all of this stuff?
	The same people who will tell you Mr. Beast is a bad dude for doing good stuff because he's getting attention while he's doing it and making some money.
	They're the same people that love Leonardo DiCaprio and Leonardo DiCaprio will fly on his private jets all over the place and he will get on those yachts, his carbon footprint will be massive while he guilts you into not driving car or anything else.
	You know, when we were... I saw Leo once when we lived in LA.
	What was that?
	You remember that restaurant in Laurel Canyon?
	That little Italian joint down there?
	Whatever that place was called.
	Remember that place?
	Saw him down there and he was sitting at a table.
	He had five chicks with him.
	Sitting there like this.
	Five chicks.
	Arm around two of them.
	He was living a good life.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Anywho, let's get to a Rubin Report.
	Community Q&A.
	I will try to do good work.
	I'm not paying you people to watch, but you might enjoy yourself.
	Is that enough?
	How about that?
	that.
	The first book, because it was a little more autobiographical, I felt like I got more funny quips in there, my editor.
	Like, we were a little looser with some of the silliness, and then in the second book it was a little denser.
	Like, it was a little more research-heavy, and I felt like we cut a lot of jokes at the end, so I'm very, very glad to hear that.
	And if you read it and you liked it, you might want to try the audiobook, because I do the whole thing myself.
	And then, you know, some of the inflection and intonation in my voice.
	I think you'll dig it.
	If there was one book that everyone could read, I mean look, my easy answer on this
	is read 12 Rules for Life if you have not read it.
	I literally lived it.
	Like I lived that book by Jordan Peterson by being on tour with him 120 stops as you
	guys know in about 20 countries for a year and a half.
	It was incredible.
	I look back on it like, did that happen?
	It was a dream.
	But that's a very easy answer for me to give you.
	I would say, you know, I've mentioned this book a couple times before, and I wish I could have interviewed him, but he passed away before I was doing any of this stuff.
	You know, the great astronomer and science communicator Carl Sagan, and Carl Sagan was sort of, if you don't know Carl Sagan, If you're young you probably don't know Carl Sagan.
	He was sort of Neil deGrasse Tyson before Neil deGrasse Tyson.
	He would go on Johnny Carson and he would talk about these great ideas of philosophy and science and space and all of these things.
	He was a professor at Cornell University also.
	And actually when I was on Bill Maher's show I asked him because Bill went to Cornell if he ever had a course with him.
	And unfortunately, he wasn't teaching much at the time because he had sort of become a TV star.
	But I know a lot of you don't like Neil deGrasse Tyson.
	He is certainly no Carl Sagan, and he's become sort of a crazed leftist, especially around COVID.
	But Sagan was sort of non-political and just wanted to communicate the decent ideas of science to people.
	He wrote one work of fiction, which was the movie Contact, which is an absolutely wonderful movie.
	It might be my favorite movie ever, with Jodie Foster.
	It came out in 1997.
	And he wrote many, many books, including Cosmos, but his last book was called Billions and And he actually passed away, he died of cancer, right before he had finished the book.
	So his wife, Ann Druyan, who's also a professor at Cornell, I think she still is now actually, she actually had to finish the book for him.
	But it's sort of him, he clearly knew that his time was coming to a close, and it's him putting his final touches on the thoughts of his life.
	And it's really, really wonderful.
	And he had a great way of explaining really complex stuff in a very, very human way.
	James says, I heard you were possibly doing a tour in Europe for 2023.
	Any confirmation or teaser that you can provide?
	I need to plan in advance.
	Dave, you know what?
	I don't want to tease too much right now because there's a couple moving parts here.
	I also have to blend, you know.
	There are two kids here that I gotta feed, make sure they're doing okay, change diapers and things.
	I can't leave everything to David.
	So we're trying to figure out, like, do we have to break it into two trips, maybe even three trips now, it sounds like.
	I mentioned yesterday that Jordan Peterson's putting on this conference in October, where they're gonna really do this sort of assault, like a 180 reverse on the WEF, a bottom-up idea of how to fix the world's problems.
	That'll be in London in October, so I'm gonna try to get to that, but yes, May, There's going to be a couple countries, at least two, possibly three, maybe four.
	We're trying to figure it out.
	Just hang tight on that.
	I'll have more for you soon.
	Amy says, what activities are you most looking forward to doing with Justin and Luke?
	I mean, I can't wait to get out there and play basketball with them.
	Like, that's it.
	I really, really hope they like basketball.
	I know the thing is with kids, everyone throws them into soccer at the beginning because you can basically just stand out there and you don't have to do much of anything.
	Whatever, not a lot's happening.
	I'm not a soccer guy.
	I find it boring as hell, but whatever.
	I'll go out and do it, but I cannot wait to teach them how to shoot hoops.
	I just hope that, you know, I'm 46 now, but let's say it's in like five years, five, we could start shooting around a little bit, maybe a little bit before.
	Hopefully I'm still walking.
	I cannot wait for that, cannot wait for that.
	I would love to go fishing with them too.
	I think that'll be super fun, which obviously here in Florida, plenty of opportunities.
	To do that.
	But they're really like, they're growing so fast right now.
	Like every morning they're both in that phase where you wake up in the morning and I'm like, whoa, you're bigger than you were before.
	Wait, you're who?
	And who's that one?
	And yeah, it's a lot.
	And also Justin is now, he's almost into six months, like he's not quite crawling, but he's rolling.
	Like this kid can basically get where he needs to go by rolling, which is sort of hilarious to watch.
	Cool Mom says, rather than encourage us to talk politics with our Democrat friends and family, which often ends badly, shouldn't the focus be on pros like yourself getting the truth out?
	Is there a plan to stop liberal views from dominating the airwaves?
	Are you working towards crossing over?
	Well, if you mean crossing over, if you mean into where you're saying the airwaves, so I think you mean maybe like a little more into the mainstream.
	I mean, look, I tried many times when I put those two books out that were both bestsellers to get on CNN.
	We tried to get on MSNBC.
	We tried to get on whatever the political talk shows are on all of these networks.
	Nobody would have me.
	Fox and Fox Business would put me on every show and they still consistently put me on these things.
	I would have gone on all of these shows to talk about all these things.
	is what it is, so I don't know that we can, I don't know that we can salvage the mainstream
	and I don't know that we have to.
	You know, the mainstream media at this point, it's dying in numbers.
	It's why they write nonsensical hit pieces.
	Why does Forbes write hit pieces about how Joe Rogan's a racist?
	Is it, and why did Brian Stelter, for weeks, cover how Joe Rogan's a racist?
	Is it because they really believe he's racist or they believe that he's getting the views
	and the clicks that they used to got, so they wanna take him out?
	Why is it that Forbes is going after this Mr. Beast guy?
	Do they honestly think it's worth writing an article that this guy who just helped a thousand people in several countries see some for the first time, that it's worth taking him out?
	Or is it that they know if they write a hit piece about him, it'll cause controversy and then cause clicks?
	Right?
	Like, you know the answer to that, obviously.
	So I don't know how important it is to transcend that thing.
	The mainstream media seems, to me, at this point, to be a dinosaur in the La Brea tar pits.
	Right?
	Like, for those of you that have been to L.A., or just picture the dinosaur, the prototypical dinosaur in the tar pits when you go to your natural history museum in whatever city you're in.
	And the dinosaur is slowly sinking, right?
	And then other dinosaurs are jumping on top of it.
	Remember, they'd show you like a brontosaurus walks into the tar pits and now he's sinking.
	And then some other predator would jump on him because he's easy prey.
	But then what that guy doesn't realize is, oh, man, he's sinking.
	Now the tar is on me.
	You know, a saber tooth tiger.
	Now I can't get out either.
	And I think that's what the mainstream media is doing.
	It's feeding on itself in its last gasps as it as it sinks.
	Down beneath the tar.
	And I think that that's just fine.
	I think we have to do the best we can to help convince people that have been paying attention to those things, that there are more truthful things out there.
	It's what I was saying yesterday about the view, how whether A.B.
	Can we can you Google that?
	I don't even know that it's a thing that we can find.
	But is is the view part of ABC News or is it part of ABC's entertainment division?
	Because if it's part of their entertainment division, then you can then Just sort of business-wise, I guess you could just say, all right, it's just an entertainment show.
	It doesn't matter what these girls say.
	But at a news level, and it in essence is a de facto news show at this point, when these women lie about absolutely everything, It's a real problem.
	Oh, we're getting the info right now.
	So technically, it is part of the entertainment, not news division.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Because they know it's not news.
	When Anna Navarro gets up there, as she did two days ago, and she's screaming about the importance of this African-American AP class, African-American history AP class, and claiming that Ron DeSantis is getting rid of it because he's racist and doesn't mention anything about genderqueer theory, blah, blah, blah.
	It's like you are confusing people intentionally, but I suppose you're an entertainment show, so you're allowed to do it.
	Oh, interesting.
	This is interesting.
	Phoenix is give me info on the fly.
	It was part.
	The view was part of ABC News division until 2014, but then they switched it to the entertainment division.
	That is extremely interesting.
	So there may have been legal reasons for that.
	You know, you're upheld to different standards when you're part of the news division than you are as part of the entertainment industry.
	So.
	There you go.
	Francis says, when someone hollers for Dave in your house, do both you and Dave answer?
	So the thing is, he goes by David.
	I go by Dave.
	However, my family still calls me David.
	So when I have my brother and sister and spouses and nieces and nephews, all my nieces and nephews, they call me Big Uncle David.
	They call him Little Uncle David.
	I'm a little bit taller.
	And depending on how much I've eaten, I could be a little bit wider.
	And my parents call me David.
	So it can be very confusing when we have a lot of family under the roof.
	But beyond that, we're pretty good.
	Nobody really calls him Dave.
	And at this point, none of my friends really call me David.
	So it worked itself out.
	I guess it is weird.
	It is sort of weird, I suppose.
	But at some point, you just stop thinking about it.
	Sam says, just a thought from a California resident.
	What do you really think a Gavin Newsom presidency would look like?
	I had this conversation with my friend the other day because we both abhor him so much, but he is a California Democrat.
	He has never faced any kind of opposition at all.
	Look how awful Kamala is.
	Same thing, right?
	Because she was a senator from Cali.
	Once they get to D.C.
	with actual Republicans with power, they are totally exposed.
	Like, what would Newsom do with a Republican House and Senate that he had to work with?
	Well, first off, let me just say, I'm going to do everything in my power to ensure that Gavin Newsom never becomes President of the United States.
	There's an interesting conversation happening a little bit about Gavin, which is, you know, a lot of people think he's just, he's just a shill.
	Like, he's just a grifter.
	He'll do anything for power.
	Like, he's not a true believer.
	I know people that know him Personally and a lot of people say he's not really a bananas leftist, right?
	Like you might say that I don't even know that she's a true believer either Bernie's a true believer, right?
	So Bernie whether you like him or not I don't think there's a lot of question as to whether he believes in the ideas of leftism and socialism like he does he's been fighting and screaming about these moronic collectivist idiotic ideas as he became a millionaire with three houses for many many decades like he is a true believer and Someone like Gavin Newsom, and again, I know people that know him, a lot of people think he doesn't believe this stuff.
	He's just doing whatever will get him elected, whatever will give him power.
	So in some ways that makes him the perfect Democrat because you'll do anything to attain power, right?
	And that seems to be what the game is about with these people.
	You are totally right.
	And it's an important point that Because California has become a one party state, he's been able to do whatever he wants there.
	And by the way, when he does those things, he destroys the state and his people make more money.
	Right.
	So you have to think about it in like a pretty clear way.
	You could see the videos that I showed you guys last week from San Francisco.
	Right.
	And they're they're insane.
	They're absolutely insane.
	It's not a city.
	It is a it is right out of The Walking Dead.
	You could go to Los Angeles.
	You could go all over the state.
	The state has water problems because there's this constant tension between the middle of the state and the cities, all of this stuff.
	There's so many problems in California.
	The deficits, the roads suck, like all of it, right?
	And it should be the most spectacular state in the Union, like the size of it.
	The geographic area along the Pacific, like it's so gorgeous.
	The mountains, like there's so much there that you can go skiing and be on the beach basically within the same day.
	Like there's so many incredible things there.
	But you have to understand that this guy is doing everything for power.
	So he might look at San Francisco and you might wonder, well, why is he letting that happen?
	Well, he's letting it happen because when they put in the policies
	that stop builders from building or putting all these crazy regulations,
	it's his guys that are making the deals, right?
	It's his guys that are getting richer.
	It's the exact same thing with the World Economic Forum types.
	Do you think Bill Gates is ever gonna stop eating meat?
	Do you think Bill Gates is gonna be eating bugs?
	Of course he's not.
	Do you think John Kerry, while he's flying around on his plane,
	will ever stop eating filet mignon and foie gras?
	Like, of course they will not.
	So these people have, they really, it is that video that we showed you a couple weeks ago.
	What was it that John Kerry said?
	He said, this is extraordinary.
	We're like extraterrestrials.
	Like basically like we're like gods.
	And I think that is really what these people believe.
	They think it is their job to constantly be rejiggering human society so it fits to their egotistical psychosis.
	I'm not into it.
	That's just me.
	The Valencians.
	Love the Valencians.
	They say, when are we going to be able to chat with each other in the Rubin Report community?
	It would be nice to have a built-in messenger feature.
	Been waiting for this and other features to be rolled out.
	Where's the beta test group?
	Sign me up.
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		We're working on it.
		I told you we're working on a bunch of stuff.
		It takes time to build these things.
		And there's been a lot of things, you know, when we did the merger with Rumble.
		There were a lot of things like we had our engineers, our locals engineers, helping them on things.
		They were helping us on things.
		We had to combine all of the forces there.
		Obviously, we opened up offices here in Miami and the studio in Miami, Rumbles building out really fantastic on the water offices in Sarasota that are great.
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		Also, then this freaking Ridiculous war in Ukraine happened.
		That's where most of our local programmers were.
		We were able to get a whole bunch of people out who now are working here in the United States.
		Some of them are still in Europe and in different parts, different countries right now.
		So that delayed some things.
		But the feature set, trust me, I've seen the whiteboard, the feature set has live chat for you guys to go back and forth on each other.
		We want it to be an all in one stop and shop.
		Basically, so you guys can communicate with each other, so you can do commerce with each other and with us.
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		That was something we couldn't do about a month ago.
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		Bear with us.
		And more is coming, I promise you.
		Rich says hi Dave so much has been said about Elon Musk by his supporters and detractors that he seems to have an air of eccentricity Surrounding him.
		He's almost Howard Hughes minus the crazy.
		What surprised you the most when you spent time with him?
		Well, I mentioned to you guys I mean the first thing was on that on that first night when I went in there and it's about 1230 a.m And he's meeting with all these people, and I'm sort of standing off to the side with a couple of the engineers.
		They're kind of catching me up on some of the things that we have been talking about for the last two weeks.
		And then Elon comes up to me and we start chatting for a minute, and the fact, or a few minutes, and then he basically, that he said, hey, if you need me tonight, if you need me to stay tonight, like I'm really tired, but if you need me to stay tonight, I'll stay.
		Like, that's crazy.
		Like, absolutely crazy.
		The world's richest man.
		Right? Like, he doesn't work for me.
		Right? He's got a hell of a lot to do.
		I'm just one guy in this ecosystem that, you know, they happen to find some things
		on my account that now they've found across the board, but like that he was
		willing to stay at that point, basically at 1 a.m. for that.
		And that then we push it to tomorrow in our meeting.
		As I told you guys, our meeting kept getting pushed throughout the day.
		So again, we didn't meet until after midnight.
		And then we had two hours.
		But the other part that was cool was like he's he really is like like right when we sat in the meeting, he was in the middle of showing somebody like a funny video online about like it was like a mockumentary about what it's like to raise funds in Silicon Valley.
		And he was cracking up and he was funny.
		I told you he lit up when we talked about the political alignment, because I think he really does feel like The sort of political evolution that I've been going through for these last couple of years and definitely been on the forefront of talking about, at least.
		I think he's right within that.
		I think I think there's so many people in America just like that.
		And I think it's why I always even though it frustrates you guys sometimes and it frustrates me.
		It's why I always talk about Bill Maher, because it's not about Bill specifically, but it's about the type of disaffected liberal that might be willing to ultimately change their vote when most people will not.
		You know, he was just a good dude.
		He was also like, you know, the second night, I don't know, the first night...
		Yeah, the first night he was wearing a suit.
		The second night he was wearing a T-shirt that was just kind of like, it was just like a ratty old T-shirt.
		Like, I don't know that I would have even been seen in that T-shirt.
		You know, and just sneakers and like some basic jeans.
		Like, he's just like a decent dude.
		And you just have to remember, not only is he running Tesla and SpaceX and trying to get us to Mars and all this stuff, the guy has all the money in the world.
		He could literally do anything that you can think of and a gajillion things that you can't think of.
		Like, if he wanted to buy Bora Bora and live in a tropical paradise with a hundred servants for the rest of his life and never be seen by humans again, he could do it.
		If he wanted to turn it into the island of Dr. Moreau and do bizarre experiments crossbreeding humans with elephants, he could do that.
		Maybe he is.
		But instead he chose to get into this fight, and I don't know what better mark of a man you could find than that.
	Oaks says we're 31 trillion in debt with no end to the spending.
	Are we bankrupt?
	Is there any chance that Social Security and Medicare will be means tested?
	You know, this is the debate that we have every year about this stupid debt ceiling being raised.
	Look, we are a debtor nation.
	Period.
	We do not have any money.
	We have notes that say, I owe you.
	If this was Monopoly, we'd be screwed right now.
	Like, we are one roll of the dice away from being in the poorhouse on Baltic Avenue, right?
	We're gonna have to basically sell crack on Baltic so that we can get, you know, a tenement home, something like that.
	Um, so we are a debtor nation.
	There's no way we're paying back our debts, obviously.
	Like, there's simply no way we're doing it.
	And I think at the end of the day, like, this is a weird, depressing reality, but it's just true.
	It's why we have to have the best military in the world.
	You know, if you borrow money from somebody, any mafia movie you've ever seen,
	you borrow money from the mafia, and then it's like you either pay them back on time,
	or they maybe, they, you know, kind of rough you up once, maybe rough you up twice.
	Third time, you're taking a drive out to the Meadowlands in Jersey, right?
	And then that's it.
	So one day, China might be like, hmm.
	Well, it does seem that the United States, we've crunched the numbers here,
	and it does seem like the United States owes us an awful lot of money.
	We're going to call in the debt.
	And then they're going to call Joe Biden.
	He won't know where he is.
	Hopefully he's not president anymore.
	But whoever they call, they call Ron DeSantis and they say, we're calling in the debt.
	We're cashing in the chips.
	And he's going to have to go, well, shit, what do we do about this?
	And then you either prolong it, but how long can you prolong it for before the whole house
	of cards fails?
	Or you end up in some sort of war situation.
	Maybe this is why we have these wars periodically.
	A whole bunch of people are getting rich off Ukraine right now.
	The idea that we gave a hundred billion dollars, a hundred billion of your dollars to Ukraine.
	What?
	Why?
	And we have virtually no debate about it.
	And if you even question it, if you even question it, you're somehow thought of as a Russian stooge or you're working for Putin or something like that.
	And that's nutty.
	But maybe the machine just needs the wars every now and again to keep the money thing flowing.
	I think it's probably something close to that.
	But I don't think Social Security and Medicare will fall, or Medicaid will fall, because it'll just kind of keep going.
	If the machine is good at one thing, it's good in that it can keep going.
	I think the best we can do with the machine is at times when we get enough brave politicians, and I'm talking about the federal level, we can kind of push it back into a sane direction.
	You can't completely alter it.
	I don't think you can.
	And you can maybe push it this way, you can maybe push it this way, you can pull, you can tug, blah blah blah, but I don't think you can do that much.
	Which is why I would want that thing to be pretty small to begin with, and it's why I would always focus on states before the federal government.
	Heather, what do we have right now in expenditures in Florida?
	We're up.
	We have a massive, massive amount of cash.
	I think we have something like a surplus of $17 billion.
	When we had this storm, which you guys know about, this crazy hurricane, FEMA cut aid, and then of course Florida had enough money to cover it.
	Cali?
	Deficit.
	Heather says, with all the Biden-Doxx unravelings, I've heard a number of other like-minded, allied, independent journalists like yourself thinking this is all to get Biden out of office, or at least to not run again.
	My question is, given that we have documented proof that the DS was planning the plandemic as early as, what, 2016, maybe earlier, wouldn't it stand to reason that the entirety of Biden's presidency has also been fairly well planned out in advance?
	Look, we can all go down some level of conspiracy theory here.
	And, you know, conspiracy theorists, the last 10 years on conspiracy theorists, they're looking pretty good.
	They're certainly looking better than most, uh, most journalists.
	And I don't think anything you said there was like a wild conspiracy theory.
	You have to remember when Joe Biden was running and you had, you know, you had Pete Buttigieg and you had Kamala and you had Tulsi Gabbard and you had Bernie and Elizabeth Warren, et cetera, et cetera.
	Remember right before Super Tuesday, Super Tuesday is on a Tuesday.
	And if you remember on that Monday, they cut the deal with everybody.
	They cut the deal so that Pete dropped out and Bernie dropped out and Elizabeth Warren dropped out and Pete got a job in the administration.
	Bernie's just allowed to keep doing his nonsensical Bernie thing, whatever it is.
	And they all solidified around Biden.
	Whatever that is, what you Is it the Clinton machine?
	The Obama machine?
	Like somebody orchestrated all of that.
	This is just politics.
	That's not a crazy conspiracy theorist theory.
	They orchestrated all of that because it seems to me that whoever they is felt that the best guy to take out Trump for whatever reason was Joe Biden.
	My guess is they did not think Biden was going to sort of mentally collapse this early.
	The idea that he could even be considering running again is so bananas.
	I really don't think he will do it.
	I think there's still a large chance he doesn't even make it through the end of the term.
	And this document stuff is sort of the perfect way to just push him aside.
	You have like a temporary Kamala situation and then you let Gavin in.
	Something like that.
	Doesn't that sort of seem right to you?
	I don't think the system has much use for him.
	You may remember, I've told the story once or twice, that when I met Trump at the height of impeachment, and this was during, you know, the Democrats were in the middle of their campaign and they were all running at the time.
	You may remember those, what was it, about three weeks where Mike Bloomberg was running.
	Nobody was supporting Mike Bloomberg, but the media was all about Mike Bloomberg.
	And in those two debates that Mike Bloomberg was in, you may remember everybody was attacking him.
	And I said to Trump, I said, I said, Mr. President, my theory on this
	is that the only reason Bloomberg is in is because they want the fire directed at him
	because Biden is polling number one.
	And they know if everyone goes on a debate stage and attacks Biden, that he's gonna break down.
	He can't deal with it, like cognitively or any other way.
	And Trump kind of laughed at me.
	And he first, well, first he said to Melania, he's like, yeah, this is sort of interesting.
	Listen to this.
	He had me repeat it to her.
	And then he's like, nah, Bloomberg just hates me.
	But I really think I was right about that.
	I think the system put Bloomberg in as a complete, he was a horrible candidate.
	He did not even try.
	There was no support, but they needed to drag Biden to the finish line somehow.
	And I think if you can see some of these tactics that the machine uses, then you don't fall for them next time.
	So we're going to have.
	you know, a big Republican primary coming up. Nikki Haley has said she's in. I'm hearing that
	my buddy Larry Elder is going to get in. It sounds like Mike Pompeo is going to get in.
	There's going to be an interesting crop of people, many of whom I like, and let's see how the games
	are a bit different. The games will be different also because Republicans generally behave a little
	bit differently, right?
	Remember Trump in 2016?
	He just ran the show all the way through.
	They kept saying the establishment wants to stop him, but nobody did stop him.
	Nobody coalesced to stop him.
	He took out Cruz, took out Rubio, etc.
	So we shall see.
	Meemaw says, what happened with Bill Maher when you went to see him in L.A.
	this time?
	Inquiring minds want to know.
	So I went to After San Francisco, I was just like, I'm in Cali.
	Like, how often am I going to get down here?
	I've got a couple friends.
	I want to, I want to do some stuff with PragerU.
	So I went to real time and I was backstage, which it's sort of like, like quite honestly, like it's ridiculous at this point that I haven't been on the show, but I go backstage and you know, every producer and everyone there, they're all saying hi to me.
	Oh, it's so weird.
	You haven't been on the show yet.
	And I'm just like, all right.
	Like, I don't, I really don't care anymore.
	I'm not just saying that I don't care anymore.
	If anything, I would almost view it as a headache if I got the call at this point.
	I did what I needed to do with Bill in those two and a half hours or whatever it was when
	we did the Club Random podcast.
	And we've become friendly subsequently.
	So I don't need it.
	It felt sort of silly, you know, considering I had just spent time with Elon.
	It's like I could have talked about some pretty relevant stuff.
	But it seems to me there may be going in a different direction or, you know, to put a
	somewhat sane right leading person on might be too much exposure for what they're trying
	Whatever it is.
	It doesn't even matter.
	Bill and I talked about a whole bunch of stuff that's on the DL.
	Okay, here we go.
	Nick says, once Luke and Justin are old enough to join the local boys basketball slash golf team, how would you and David teach them to handle a situation where one of their teammates identified as trans?
	That's an interesting question.
	Well, first off, as I said, I can't wait to get them out there playing basketball.
	David was a was a golfer in high school.
	He's a really great golfer.
	And I'm trying to we're trying to carve out a little more time now because he's so in it with the kids so that he could.
	You know, there's obviously a ton of great golf courses here in Florida.
	So we're trying to make that happen.
	Um, how would we deal with it?
	Well, I guess the first part of that is, like, we'll have to see when the time comes, and hopefully they don't get confronted with something like that for quite some time.
	And I think we have some protections against that, obviously, here in Florida, and, you know, whether we homeschool or private school or whatever.
	But does it seem like the world is heading in a direction where it is likely that my seven-year-old son might know Man, I don't know what the right answer would be yet.
	I don't know.
	I guess I'm not the parent of a seven-year-old yet, and I'd really have to think.
	I do when we do talk about this sort of thing a lot at dinner.
	Like what you'd want to do and what we will try to do is put these kids into the world without being too muddled in their minds.
	Hopefully knowing what a loving family is and knowing what something close to truth is and goodness is and all those things and surrounded by, you know, I'm blessed to be surrounded not only by Great family and friends, but they're going to have awesome influence.
	Justin's middle name is Jordan, in honor of Jordan Peterson.
	Hopefully Jordan will have a little role in his life and Dennis Prager and these great people.
	So I think we can buttress a lot of the good ideas.
	We can really stabilize them.
	So when the crazy stuff comes in, it'll kind of present itself and we'll know how to deal with it.
	But I don't know.
	If Justin came home and he said, I'm in basketball, And there's a girl who's going by the name Brian, but it really wouldn't be that direction, right?
	It would be the other way, most likely, because the little girl... It's messy.
	It's messy.
	Hey, we're going to be doing the show in seven years?
	Yeah?
	Okay.
	I'll let you know.
	Nathan says, I've been a supporter since Rogan helped you launch.
	Did Rogan help me launch?
	I've been on Rogan a couple of times.
	I don't know if he helped me launch, but all right.
	It's been a wild ride.
	Question.
	Will you support starting a funding campaign to send Sam Harris mail order desserts?
	until he agrees to talk to Brett Weinstein for at least an hour.
	You know, look, I addressed the Sam thing earlier in the week.
	I told you it didn't give me any great pleasure, but I sort of felt that I had to do it to like kind of get it out of my system.
	And because so many people ask me about it, it is very disappointing.
	And if you listen to the video that we played where Sam, you know, he's still kind of going after like mocking Brett for being vaccine skeptical.
	And it's like, no, Sam, you should have been.
	But also, even if Sam felt that Brett was completely wrong on vaccine skepticism, which again, clearly Brett was right, right?
	Clearly I was right.
	Clearly many of you were right.
	Why wouldn't you talk to him about it?
	The whole idea when we started the IDW was that we were all, it was this wide ranging people.
	I always used, when people ask me what the whole IDW was, you know, this group of people, it's hard to remember because it was five or six years ago now and the internet moves so fast.
	But it was this really wide swath of people that had very, very different views on things that were coming together and talking about all the important issues.
	We were just on the early end of seeing how wokeness was going to destroy so much, and we were trying to stop that from happening.
	That really is what it boiled down to.
	But I always used Sam and Ben Shapiro as the example of what this thing really was, because Sam and Ben Shapiro literally disagreed on everything.
	on everything I would say except sort of the basic tenets of the United States,
	meaning they disagreed on belief and religion and God.
	They disagreed on abortion and taxes and virtually every political, you know,
	Democrats versus Republicans, like pretty much everything you could think of.
	But they often would sit down in my garage, in our studio and talk it out.
	And we would agree that we all wanted to live in the same country.
	So that was the beautiful thing.
	So the disappointing part with Sam is that he suddenly didn't want to talk to any of his friends or the people that were willing to talk about these things.
	And that, as I said the other day, was disappointing to me at a personal level more than a professional level.
	I didn't care if we did any of this stuff publicly.
	I really didn't.
	And I always would say that, and I've said that to many, many friends over the years who were angered or disappointed with my politics, or they see me with a picture with Trump or an event with DeSantis and they think I'm this right-wing maniac.
	And it's like, man, can you not separate friendship, put aside whether we agree or disagree politically, can you not separate that from friendship?
	Why can I do it?
	Why do I consistently find that people on the right are able to do that, and people on the left are not?
	Well, I think there's actually a very fundamental reason for that having to do with belief.
	And the lack of belief, I think, was making Sam feel very tenuous in everything he said, so he didn't want to be confronted with people that maybe got things right or saw things a little bit differently.
	Um, Lady Broad says, Dave, is there ever going to be a Republican conservative party that will unify like the Democrats, even for irresponsible, stupid bills?
	They stick together.
	It's powerful.
	Yeah.
	Well, the quest for power will get you to stick together, right?
	If your goal is not like what's right or what's just, it's just like, we want more power.
	We want more power over people.
	We want more of their money to do what we want to them.
	It's like you can unify against that.
	What do they say?
	You go to a libertarian conference and it's like herding cats, right?
	Because everybody's got their own pet issue that they really care about, whether it's legalization of driver's licenses or what should happen with hardcore drugs or the border or all these things.
	So once you get people, that believe in individual rights, that respect autonomy of
	the mind, of the self, and you try to get them to coordinate themselves into a political party
	and make a coherent, you know, if you're asking about the Republican Party, then you'd
	want them to have a coherent set of values.
	And when the next presidential election rolls out, that's what they do at the convention. They say,
	here are the principles of our party. And the principles of our party, let's say,
	as the Republican Party, those are going to be different than, say, pure conservative principles,
	Those are going to be different than pure libertarian principles.
	But what you want to do is you want to create the widest tent so enough people can get in there.
	I think I'm a living, breathing example of this as someone that is a newly registered Republican here in Florida.
	I think this is the wide tent party.
	I think it probably has been for a long time.
	It was a little hard to see.
	As the mainstream media didn't want you to see it, but that will be the challenge.
	Maybe it can't hold.
	Like, maybe I'm being a little, you know, rose-colored-glasses sort of thing in what I see as being this wide party, but I really do think it isn't.
	I think I have enough evidence of that, not only because of what I do here and that we
	see the response that you guys give us, but I literally travel the country and meet people
	from every walk of life, whether it's some guy in Arkansas or it's a disaffected, you
	know, a traditional conservative, let's say, in Arkansas, or it's a disaffected liberal
	in Cali, and it's like, boy, you guys disagree about some stuff, but I know you both love
	America.
	I know you both respect free speech.
	I know you like rule of law and you think that this whole experiment is good and worthy
	of fighting for.
	So that's what we, that's the challenge.
	And whether we can actually do it is, well, the proof is in the pudding.
	Kathy says, what are your plans for off the grid August now that the boys are here?
	Kathy, I don't know, but I really, really do hope that we're able to get away for a
	little bit.
	Actually, uh, You know, fortunately, because we've both got family on the East Coast, hopefully we can get some family members, some grandparents to come on down and maybe take the kids for a little bit.
	We used to do some great trips and we've gone to the to the Amazon and Mexico and we did the Bora Bora thing and just disconnect.
	None of this.
	And I just stare at the ocean.
	I don't need to read a book.
	I try to read some on the planes, but like I can just sit.
	If you get me on a beach, I can just sit down, David drives him crazy because he's got books, he's got his e-reader, he's got, he's looking at it, well not looking at his phone, but he's just like got, well he's got like the iPad for reading, magazines, all that stuff, and I can just sit there.
	I literally can just sit there and watch the waves and it could be six hours later, I've eaten some ceviche, I've had a little tequila, I'm good to go.
	That works for me.
	I hope we can get away a little bit.
	You know, the thing that happens with August is, like, there's so many places that I want to go back to.
	I really want to go back to Italy.
	I haven't been there since 1997.
	I was 21.
	I was basically broke, kind of backpacking through Europe.
	Didn't have a great appreciation for food or wine or anything else.
	Like, I was eating at McDonald's in Rome.
	Like, I would love to go back to Italy just for the food.
	I really want to go back to Australia.
	I've never been to Japan.
	That's really number one on my list of places that I want to go that I haven't been to.
	And then we're going to tell you a bit more on that question about the European tour in a bit because it does look like some places that I have not been to yet.
	Anyway, that is the show for today.
	Have you guys stick around for the post-game show on Locals if you want to ask a couple extra questions or get some comments in there.
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