Dave Rubin celebrates Rumble's NASDAQ listing with CEO Chris Pavlovski and creator Stephen Deleonardis, who detail how the platform counters YouTube's censorship by prioritizing free speech under Pavlovski's 85% voting control. Guests Matt Kohrs and Asaf Lev highlight successful growth despite market headwinds, contrasting Rumble's consistent protection against algorithmic suppression with Big Tech's opaque moderation. Ultimately, this launch signifies a necessary assault on incumbent dominance, offering creators a unified space for plurality where human interaction replaces arbitrary deletion. [Automatically generated summary]
When they say 300 million, they're counting countries where our app's not even allowed.
Like, we haven't even launched in India, in these large markets.
It's very easy to launch in India and get a lot of users, but...
Getting 63 in US and Canada, a million monthly active users, and that's not including locals, that's not including the OTT, that's also not including video embeds.
So when someone takes our video player, which we could monetize, and embeds it on their site, that's also not included in that MAU.
So these are MAUs just on web and app, primarily.
It's a lot.
63 versus 68 on Twitter.
I just gotta keep saying that because like, and Twitter was not growing when they hit, the last time they reported 68, which was in 2019.
There was like consecutive quarters between 60 and 70.
So, you know, when I look at that, I really, you really kind of get a feeling of how big this really is.
It's like core, it's ingrained in every person we hire.
It's across the team.
Freedom of expression, free speech, freedom in general is something that we're all standing for from the top all the way to the lowest levels.
And, you know, when Elon was talking about buying Twitter, I always said, like, It's not built the same way Rumble is built.
You're not going to have that strength from top to bottom.
You're going to have a lot of problems after the acquisition.
How that's going to look, I don't even know.
But you're going to have an exodus.
You're going to have a lot of good engineers leaving.
Every engineer on this team is all in on the mission.
They're in.
And they're going to work twice as hard because they care.
They care like I do.
They care like you do.
So it's like, that's...
That's the real magic in what's happening.
I couldn't wait for this day because I thought somebody was going to stop us from happening, but the fact that we're here now and we've raised the amount of money that we raised, approximately $400 million, Now's the time.
So I can ask you the easy ones all day long, but actually in my locals community, people were asking tough questions.
And I said to you, Chris, I'm gonna ask you some tough ones.
You said nothing's off the table.
So the main thing that people are asking is, okay, so now we've defended free speech well, rumble allows, plurality of voices, all sorts of political opinions.
As you said, you got Glenn and Tulsi on the left.
You got Bongino on the right, okay, so be it.
We got Russell Brand.
There's a big plurality, but what do you do now that you're public to make sure that all of the people and the companies and the voices that get people de-platformed and get, you know, what are we going to do about that?
It's going to be very difficult to change the way I'm going to think.
And you're definitely not going to change the staff that we have on Rumble.
We all think the same.
And you're not going to change my mind.
I could have sold this business.
I didn't.
And I didn't because it really matters to the kids out there.
It matters to people out there.
Freedom.
I didn't think I was going to be defending freedom, but we have no choice.
What's happening out there right now, people not allowing to be said, saying what they want to say.
Guys like Steve will do it, getting the platform, but we don't even know why.
This is way bigger than me.
It's way bigger than you.
It's way bigger than all of us.
We're now in a playground where we can actually push back, and we're beholden to The team that we have, the management that we have, the investors that we have.
And, you know, everyone always asks the question, like, if you go public, are they going to be able to, like, is some huge company going to come in and invest and be able to influence you?
Well, they don't have 85% control.
So my answer to that is how can they?
Technically and legally speaking, how can they?
If an investor wants to invest in this company and wants to change the mission of this company, I'm going to go tell them this is not the company to invest in.
I can tell my audience that having partnered through Locals with Rumble and with Chris, every single thing that Chris has said to me Over the last two plus years that we've been doing this, you were laying out crazy things all along the way, and every single thing that he said came true.
Yeah, you think of Rumble as a good vehicle for information flow.
People can get their voices heard.
But you can't have information flow until you have the infrastructure that can support that.
So it's really imperative that we do that, and we've made a lot of progress on that.
We launched one of the largest and fastest growing apps out there, which is TruthSocial, flawlessly onto our cloud.
We also launched Tim Pool as well onto the cloud.
And by late 2023, we plan to make this public for everyone.
For state governments, for governments that believe in our mission and our cause, for universities, religious institutions, small businesses around the world.
You know, all this, you know, Times Square, our logo up there.
It's awesome.
It's great.
But like, you know, we haven't done it until we really push back against these guys and everyone kind of like, we tilt the market back to where it's supposed to be.
But to me, I really don't know why I got cancelled, because I got cancelled for a URL to a website, the .com, and that website you're allowed to openly promote on YouTube, show you're playing, show you're on that website on YouTube, so I really don't understand the true reason behind it.
But besides, thank God I have someone like Chris that, you know, calls me and, you know, gives me a fantastic deal and welcomes me with open arms to rumbles.
But thank God I have...
If I didn't have, like, Kyle, John, Sam, the Nelk boys, and everyone, like, I would be absolutely fucked, and it's just, like, for no reason.
And they don't have to give you a legitimate reason, and it sucks.
It's nice to just be able to upload a video and be proud about it and go to bed and just know it's not getting deleted because I would always go to bed on when it comes to Instagram and YouTube and just be like, fuck, like you don't know, right?
Oh, I love saying fuck, but fuck's part of my fucking vocabulary.
The difference between fucking Chris and fucking YouTube is that he'll give me a call and be like, hey Steve, what you're doing is fucking wrong.
Like, you gotta change it up.
And YouTube never gave me a call or let me know.
They called me the day of deletion and it was a girl.
She seemed pretty stoked I was getting deleted and I was like the the sex Yeah, it seemed happy and I was like I was with me and my editor and I'm like we're like bro like she's happy Like she like like you're giving someone like the worst news possible and you're doing it in a way to where it's like Like I fuck like you're happy.
It was kind of just fucked up and I I wish I recorded it, but it was a mindfuck, you know?
You get 100,000 subscribers, you get the plaque, you fucking hang it on your wall, you look at that shit, you put it in your bathroom, you take a shit, you look at it and be like, yo, I did that shit.
When I get a million subscribers on Rumble, which is going to happen,
I'm going to have the sexiest plaque in the world.
and it's gonna just...
Fuck YouTube.
It's gonna be fuck YouTube.
Because they didn't give me one.
It's not a cheat code to get a million subscribers.
You can't cheat and get a million subscribers.
I got a million subscribers because a million people genuinely liked me.
And I felt like I deserved it.
And they said, as YouTube, we get to choose Who we give the plaques to it's like hey like what it's kind of fucked up like why you know like if I was a makeup artist I would have got that millions the million subscriber pack like like that but the fact that I was just like this guy that appeals to like high school college kids and just like I'm kind of like
Dark humor, goofy, do my thing, which I think dark humor and goofy is acceptable in this world, I feel like.
Yeah, I think everything happens for a reason, and you know, when I got my shit deleted, it was like, what the fuck?
Like, I've spent my entire life, you know, I lived for a long time, I would make, you know, just between us and this fucking livestream, you know, I would make a million and a half per month.
And I would spend a million and a half per month towards just random people.
You know, that was my shit.
It was like, and I just never in my head, I was like, I'd never thought about being canceled.
So it was like, okay, I'm going to do this.
I'm going to devote my life to this shit.
And then, you know, we're going to build brands, sell it.
And it's like, I'm going to change the world.
And it was like, oh, you can just get canceled like that.
But it was like, I literally thought in my head, like, hey, I'm going to, Devote my entire income to helping people in the world and then build brands while I'm doing that so I'm not a loser at the end of it.
I could sell it and get a hundred million dollars.
Get the island.
We'll do that.
But it was like, I guess you can get cancelled for using a .com on a website that the platform allows you to play on.
I'd say- I'd say- I'd say in one month- And it's gonna be the greatest video that he's ever made.
It's gonna be the most life-changing, beautiful video in the world.
And you know, the thing is, I'm gonna sleep like a goddamn fucking baby that night.
I'm gonna sleep like a fucking- you know what I'm saying?
I'm gonna sleep like a baby.
Yeah, I get it.
The only- I'm gonna be a little worried about Instagram, because I'm a pro at Instagram, but I'm gonna go to bed knowing that that video is gonna be fucking live the next day.
And if there's a problem, I'm gonna get a phone call and be like, hey, there's a problem.
We're not gonna just get- Canceled out of the blue.
So, this is very exciting for me and... Exclusively on Rumble.
I'm gonna get champagne, but... If you guys are watching, I'm gonna make videos in, like, two to four weeks from now, and it's like, I love making videos.
I love changing lives.
I'm gonna say this right now.
No disrespect to YouTube, but fuck you, YouTube.
No disrespect, but, like, you banned me for a website that you allow on your platform.
Like, if you're gonna ban me for a website on my second channel that gets 100k, like, at least not allow it on your platform, you fucking communist fuckers.
Like, ban me because I did something wrong.
Don't ban me for a fucking .com on my second channel that gets 100k views for a website that you fucking allow!
If they see that .com, you know what, you're gonna get people to gamble.
But you know, the thing is, you gamble on that website, tell them that you're playing on that website, say where you're playing, show them that you're playing.
But if you show that .com, because all these guys are idiots, they don't know how to get to that website unless there's the .com.
They just think steak.
They're gonna think, like, ribeye.
But that's what I'm dealing with.
Makes no sense.
So I love you guys.
I'm probably getting calls from from my business partner saying, hey, you need to chill the fuck out.
Steve, that was definitely the most colorful thing that has ever happened at NASDAQ and I think indicative of what's going on over here at Rumble.
The whole point is that nobody, if you're a dark comic, if you're giving Rolexes to Trump, if you're a lefty like Glenn Greenwald or Tulsi Gabbard, Or you're a crazy right-winger like Dave Rubin or Dan Bongino, you are welcome to be on this platform.
That's why we're doing this from NASDAQ right now.
That's why the company went public.
Everyone has an opportunity to get in on it and stick it to Google and YouTube and Facebook and Twitter and the rest of these things that made us the product when we thought they were the product.
It is pretty awesome.
And speaking of awesome, I'm going to bring on now, now we will We're going to ease up on the foul language, I think, for just a moment.
I am going to bring on the co-founder and CEO of Locals, who also happens to be my brother-in-law.
I let him marry my sister, Asaf.
Hello, Asaf.
Nice to see you.
We'll shake hands.
So for my audience, We started, they've been with me forever.
They heard the adventure of let's start something, let's build something, all of that.
And I went to you and I was like, Asaf, can you build me my own, basically a Patreon replacement?
Can we build a subscription model here?
Can we do it?
You built it.
And then we were like, let's build a company.
And now it's about two and a half years later and we merged with Rumble and we're public.
You know, it's funny because when you think about it, exactly three years ago, September of 2019, was the time that we launched the Rubin Report community.
And yes, Dave came to me At the time you were with Patreon, if you remember, at the end of 2018, and you said, Asaf, I need a solution where I'm going to control my audience, where I will be the boss for my own business, because I cannot rely on those big tech.
And we started to do it, but it was one element that we added to the mix here, that we said that it's not only that we wanted to build a solution when you own the data, And you own your user, but also a place where your user can connect to one another, and we build it all under a community.
And three years ago, we launched the Rubin Report community.
And I think the power of the community that we discovered is much greater than anything else.
Because the Rubin Report community allowed us to hire the key employees that we have in the company.
Yeah, we got, I mean literally, you're not making that up, I mean we got some of our key staff members, there are people like high up, that were up there celebrating that were fans, they were literally fans of the show, they reached out to me and were like, how can I get involved, this is my skill set, I want to throw some dollars in, whatever it might be, they're part of this operation, and that's the point of the community.
We got some investors to back it up, and we built the product with one thing in mind.
We said, how can we support free speech, and how can we build a solution where we think about the creator first?
And then you connected me to some really interesting creators that had a similar problem, and we started to give it to more and more creators.
And we discover a need in the industry.
And the need is that the creator wants to have full control and connect directly with the audience.
But I think what we see recently and why we are now with Rumble, the entire media landscape is changing in front of our eyes.
If in the past you needed social media to basically have a distribution channel, today distribution channels are people like yourself that already have an audience.
And we are betting big time on creative independence and we want to help more and more
creators. We saw Steve will do it, that by the way, his opening is on Locals Community. Steve
Yeah, so we got the right investors and I'm very proud of every investor that joined Locals and I think it's a celebration day for them as well.
But when we met Chris, it was the first time that we met a tech CEO that thought in the same way.
That he said, you know what, we can have a platform where we allow people to share their opinion Regardless if we agree or disagree with them, as long as they obey the laws of the United States.
And the synergy was perfect.
We started with a partnership, and I think quickly after, we got the offer to join Rambel.
And for us, I think not only that it was a great success, working together for the past few years, it was a fast ride to get to the moment that we are ringing the bell together with Rambel, But essentially, what we are doing, we are taking free speech public.
And I'm here in the United States for almost 10 years.
And there is one value that is unique to the United States, by the way, and it's freedom.
And as long as I'm here, and as long as I can, like, you know, help to contribute to this, I'm going to fight for freedom, and I think that's what Rambel is doing at the end of the day.
So first, livestream is something that we're going to be very bullish and we're going to keep on improving it more and more.
The reason is because it's the most authentic form of communication that you have.
But what we want to do now, and that's going to come in 2023, we want to see how we can involve the audience as well.
I think that you always say that your community, and you learn a lot from your community as well, You want them to be more involved in the live stream, and we are going to develop some features that will allow them to be more interactive.
I call it interactive media.
And that's really where we're going to go.
The second thing that we released actually this month was articles.
Because what we understand is that creators not only want to produce videos, they also want to have written content.
So now you can also write articles on Locals, and you can expand the type of content that you have.
And the third thing that we started in the past few months, we started to sell movies on Locals.
What Dinesh proved was that he can take a movie that he produced, and he can go independent and do it himself.
And the results that he got was mind-blowing.
And I think now we're going to open it up.
So in the near future, you guys are going to hear about it as well.
It's something that we call Content Plus.
Essentially, we believe that every creator can create their own on-demand service on their platform, where they can sell movies, they can sell articles if they want, they can sell podcasts, and we want to more empower you guys to build your own business.
That's something that we're going to be committed for, to keep empowering our creators to be independent, because we think that they are the future of media.
There is a lot of things, and a lot of things that people also need to understand from Rumble.
One of the big reasons why we started to even talk to Rumble to begin with, we knew that we cannot be hosted on Big Tech.
And we knew that the big challenge with building our technology, if you remember, a lot of people came to us and said, where are you being hosted?
It's not easy to build this infrastructure.
And now I can tell you from the inside, the Rambel infrastructure team are world class.
Those are world class people and we are building more and more servers to basically support more people and that they can speak up.
So we build it on top of it.
But now it's going to be time that we are going to roll out more features, what you said, More communication, more messaging, more involving the community itself in connecting with the creators.
All right, I'm going to talk to the camera for a couple of minutes here.
Thank you, Asaf, because you guys sent in a gajillion questions here.
I do want to get to some, and hopefully, I think probably Asaf and Chris answered a few of them.
Steve may have answered some of them in his own Special sort of way, but I'll just jump through a couple of them and as you can tell guys This really is just a great day putting aside That I that in a weird way putting aside that I have anything to do with this thing that I created locals that we merged With rumble the the message that I'm always talking to you guys here about on the political side that the only way we can make sense of anything These days is if we can honestly talk about it if we can truly hear what the opinions are if we can hear counter Opinions if we can figure out what's true and what is information versus misinformation
That's the mission that Rumble is on, you know?
It really is.
This was the company that I was supposed to end up working with through Locals, and that's the plan.
And I think it really is a piece of fixing all of the political stuff that I normally do a show about, and that obviously I will get back to doing.
So let me jump in a couple questions here from you guys.
Small says, aside from attracting new talent to the platform, how do you plan to grow the business.
So Asaf just hit on some of that on the features side.
But really, you know, doing the cloud services, really, you know, replacing, replacing or going right up against them, whatever you want to call it, Amazon AWS, Amazon Web Services, AWS, Amazon Web Services, you know, those were the guys that blew up Parler, they basically pressed the button, they said you have 23 million users, Doesn't matter if they're good guys, bad guys, or anything else.
We're taking you out because you're a competition.
That is what Rumble is really building, and there is a tremendous amount of infrastructure already, and a lot more on the horizon.
I don't know what I'm allowed to say, so we'll leave it at that.
Cobalt says, apparently Twitch is losing gaming creators to YouTube because of monetization policies.
I just heard a little bit more about this this morning.
Will Rumble try to attract some to join exclusively?
Also, when will Rumble ads start showing up for creators?
The ad thing is going to be laid out over the next little bit.
It's already in the works.
I've seen the beta testing on that stuff.
And 100%!
Yes, on the gamers.
The whole point of Rumble is that we're an agnostic platform in that sense.
You know, it's thought of maybe as a little bit political because, well, because I'm here, and because Bongino's here, and Crowder uses Rumble, and Tim Pool's using our infrastructure, and all of those things.
So that's sort of what's put the attention on it, and the media loves to write.
If you get a couple conservatives or scary right-wing people on something, the media immediately tries to label it that.
But the point of the platform is we don't care if you're a lefty YouTuber or a righty gamer or a gender-bending economist.
Which I assume is out there, probably.
You know, it's like, if you're doing something interesting and you have an audience, you should be on Rumble, and that's what you should be doing.
Janzy says, do you, Dan, talking about Dan Bongino, and the main players at Rumble, have a plan to always keep majority shares, to keep free speech free?
So that's what Chris, the CEO, addressed earlier.
He has 85% controlling share.
I know Chris very well at this point.
Like, this is a guy who not only I stayed true to his word the entire time we were doing the merger and all of the policies.
He's brought me and Dan in.
You know, I don't own the company anymore.
I don't own Locals anymore.
But Dan and I help guide the policy.
What can we do to make sure that we can be as open as possible so that all the wackadoodles on YouTube who don't like Dave Rubin and do these videos all day long, you want to do those videos on Rumble?
So we're gonna, we're gonna really, I truly believe this.
This is the first company that has gone public saying free speech, open inquiry, debate is in our ethos.
It is in the DNA of what we do.
And I don't think that's been done with any... well, it certainly hasn't been done with any of the big tech companies before.
In many cases, they've actually done the reverse, right?
They've said, okay, we have these algorithms.
How can we make sure certain people are either banned, or censored, or shadow banned, or algorithmically, you know, unpersoned, etc, etc.
So that is the challenge for us, but it is what we started doing and what we will continue to do.
Jay Paul says, what's the ticker symbol?
I don't know how this ticker symbol was not taken.
We got R-U-M, rum, as in I'm going to have a mojito with two shots of rum.
So we have R-U-M, which is now being traded on NASDAQ, and I assume doing pretty well today.
I'm in a giant NASDAQ room.
I don't see a ticker in front of me.
There's a lot of screens all over the place.
Let's see.
David Moore says, so proud of you guys.
What was the one part of taking this public that was harder or easier than expected?
I can tell you that building locals, you know, one thing that probably is hard for you guys to appreciate or understand, and in retrospect, I almost think I was crazy for doing it, was like, we said, OK, we're going to fight big tech.
That's just nuts in and of itself.
And then I was like, all right, I'll build a tech company.
And Asaf was handling the tech side.
But I had to be in all the investor meetings.
And, you know, you go into meetings with people, you do, for every one investor you get, you probably have 50 that say no, right?
Maybe even more.
Our numbers were pretty good.
We had a great product, and because people knew me, it was a little bit easier for us than the average startup.
But I would say, honestly, 60-70% of my time of 2000 and 2001 were dedicated to building locals.
More than doing the show, in a way.
I always gave everything I had to the show, but every minute of time that I had outside of the show was on Zoom calls.
Doing the pitches, deciding what were our policies on speech and what were we going to do if this or that happened and all of those things.
So I would say it's a little sort of like youthful naivete in a way.
It's like now that I did this once I think we can probably do it again and I've got a couple other ideas on that front and I want to do a lot more obviously with these guys but the hardest part was The hardest part was just you just keep going.
A lot of people, people that you know and friends and you know I know people in the tech world that say no to you or ignore you or don't call you back after a great pitch and at some point you want to give up there's always those moments and you just go and you go and you go and I really believe if you have something good and you give it your all whatever that might be.
Gail says, would you explain the business relationship between Locals and Rumble again?
Yes, we merged as companies.
So you can sort of look at it this way.
Rumble, which is now the public company, is the parent company of Locals in effect.
Locals is run exactly 100% the same way it was run before the acquisition, before the merger, as it was after.
So Asaf is the CEO of Locals.
He handles it.
We have separate offices in Miami.
Rumble is over in Sarasota.
So we're taking over the free state of Florida on both coasts, which is awesome.
But the companies are, they are one company right now.
Let's see, what else can I do?
A couple more for you.
Becca says, are there any further developments for bundle subscriptions for locals?
5 to 10 adds up quickly if we want content from multiple creators.
Yes, this has been one of the things that you guys have asked about from the beginning.
It has been very complex.
To figure out how to do it, because you sort of have to tier out creators, and who is making the most, who has the most draw, who would be willing to take less to be in a bundle that's, say, a bigger creator.
We've been trying to figure it out.
We have a couple models on it.
I think we're getting close.
I don't want to over-promise at the moment.
But yes, the general concept of that.
You know, Asaf and I, when we started Locals, I kept saying, I want more people involved, even if we make less money.
I was very clear about that from the beginning.
And that's why when I get emails and if you're struggling financially or if you're a former member of the military or out of work because of some of the COVID nonsense or vaccinations, it's like I give people free memberships.
It's fine.
It's fine.
I'm fine.
It'll be fine.
But we do understand that, you know, it adds up over time, right?
If you love 10 people on Locals and, you know, I charge $5 a month, But some people charge $7 or $10 or $12.
That's going to add up pretty quickly and that's not really the purpose of the company.
We want to defend free speech.
We want as many people to be involved in a better internet as possible.
Those of you that are watching right now in the live chat in my locals community, it's like that conversation is way better than what goes on in the YouTube comment section.
That's not a coincidence.
It's by design.
If you throw in a dollar to be involved in something, you will care about it a little bit more.
I used to joke with the entire local team.
I'd be like, you know what?
Forget about the money for now.
Why don't we just literally make it a quarter?
Why don't we make our monthly subscription 25 cents?
Because I think if people put 25 cents, it'll basically cause them to behave about 90% better.
And I still believe that.
There were a lot of logistical reasons we couldn't do 25%.
With stripe cuts and a whole bunch more.
There's a better thing happening.
There's a better thing happening than the meltdown that we see everywhere.
And actually, right now, why don't we bring in Matt Kors, who is a, can I call you a financial guru?
So my involvement with Rumble, it actually was because of a very negative thing.
I was on a competitor platform.
I was on YouTube.
And not once, not twice, but three times my channel was taken down because I was harmful and dangerous.
And that's crazy, because I talk about stocks.
They're like, a little too much for us.
And maybe I was caught up in an algorithm, but I don't know.
And that's the point, and I'm sure with Steve being on earlier, there is no communication.
Yeah, no communication.
You file your appeal, and they're like, nope, we reviewed your appeal, and we're not letting you back.
I'm like, well, that's weird.
And then you read a little bit more into it, and you find out that the same thing that initially banned you is the thing that reviews your appeal, like the same automated system.
I'm like, that's crazy.
Especially for a sub part of a company, YouTube, a part of Google, that it is a thing because of the creators.
So to be treated like that, it's like, ah, whatever.
So I was banned once, terminated, harmful and dangerous.
Rumble reach out to me.
They DM me.
And I didn't, at that point in time, a little over a year ago, I had never heard about it.
And then it happened again.
And then that time Chris personally reached out to me.
He's like, Hey, like, I just want to talk about what's going on.
And then from there, it was one of those like light switch moments.
The light bulb went on and I was like, okay, I get what's going on.
Me talking about stocks, it's always risk reward.
I was like, well, why would I not be on multiple platforms all of a sudden?
all your eggs in one basket, and I see what you even personally do, you have to have multiple
distribution avenues. So for me, it was kind of a no-brainer.
And at first I was doing it, and kind of like my YouTube career, nothing, nothing,
nothing. And I have to say over the past month and a half, and maybe it's because it's in the
media more, and now I'm sure with the various announcements, exclusive deals with Russell
Brand, Steve will do it, I think it's just going to get bigger and bigger and bigger.
And for me, the biggest thing is, like, I get it.
If I do something that's, whatever, illegal or clearly against the TOS, yeah, okay, there should be punishment and you can talk about it.
It's just more of like, you don't even know what you did.
And we're seeing it time and time again across the entire, I guess, really social media content creation world is sometimes it's as random as just that reviewer.
That time you're fine and whatever, and the next one doing the exact same thing.
They're like, nope, that's for me.
I went from no strikes to fully terminated.
I was like, what about strike one, two or three?
What's going on here?
So just from a business sense, I was like, wow, a company being presented to me where they're like, yeah, well, let's just say what you want to say.
Right now in the new digital age, I think people's voice and their opinions are important.
So now that there's a company who, I feel very fortunate, didn't get stomped out by big tech in its infancy stages and made it to this point, which is a huge rarity, that sense of protection, and I feel like you, Steve, and the other creators, it's just nice.
You're like, okay, cool.
I don't have to worry about that part of my business when I need to worry about other normal business, I guess, issues.
I mean, Chamath Paliapatiya, billionaire multiple times over, he recently, actually a couple days ago, yesterday, had to pull out of some of his SPAC deals, like the ones he was sponsoring.
I mean, there's very- Sometimes, before I do my show in the morning when we're just going through the rundown, I'll be like, well, I know what we're talking about today, so today is a no money day on YouTube.
It's an odd way to run a business.
Today, there's gonna be no money from that same thing that I always do.
You have to get one of those happy, mad octopuses that you switch and you're like, it's a no money day.
You just put it on your desk.
But to me, it's cool because there's some energy about it.
I always think of it as sometimes you just stumble into the right direction.
And sometimes you stumble, stumble, stumble, and once in a while you take that right step and you can tell it's different.
And I'm sure you've had that feeling many times with your own business.
There's probably times where you're just like, it's not working, why am I doing this?
And then something happens one day, whether it's the right DM, the right VC, just something abnormal.
And this week, this time for Rumble, for me as a creator, for you, and just what this really means for the protection of any form of creator.
If you want to post viral videos of a dog, if you want to talk about politics or stocks or anything in between, if you just want to party like Steve and make funny videos, the sense that you're protected and you're not always worrying about this looming thing behind you, that weird tension, you just sleep a little bit easier.