Candace Owens critiques pandemic lockdowns as fear-driven surrender, exposing media manipulation of death counts and her rapid ascent from YouTuber to political figure. She details her shift toward self-sufficiency in Tennessee, linking grid failures to a globalist communist agenda orchestrated by the World Economic Forum. While dismissing Congress as corrupt and predicting future cyber enslavement, she emphasizes family, biblical morality, and personal responsibility as the only path to saving the nation from authoritarian control. [Automatically generated summary]
When this pandemic hit, you actually tried to make me work out things with Sam Harris.
I mean, we had conservatives, people that were more in the middle that were saying, no lockdowns now, at least for now, at least for a couple of weeks.
And I was always like, hell no.
Hell no.
I know what this is.
It's paralyzing fear.
You're showing us uniquely, even the death count.
I mean, how bizarre for a news organization to say, stay at home, and then every time somebody dies, just add a number on the screen.
I mean, that's literally a game of psychological fear, right?
And I knew it was coming around the corner.
And it shocked me how much people left and right were willing to give up their freedom because they had a little bit of fear, right?
It shocked me.
I wasn't one of them.
And I know that a lot of people have come around on the conservative side and said, no more.
But how do we get people to understand that we can't get to the point where you say no more?
It has to be never, right in the beginning when you're fearing fearful.
You can't say, well, I was OK with the lockdowns for two weeks, but you know what?
Yeah, it's crazy to think back at like so much I didn't even know then.
Like I obviously was not looking to get into politics and if I look back on the interview I feel so young, you know, like so not really knowing what I was stumbling upon but knowing I kind of had this feeling that something was really wrong and I had been lied to.
And wow, what a whirlwind it's been over the last four years.
So out of all the people that I've interviewed, and we've talked about this many times privately, but out of all the people that I interviewed, we finished that first interview, I turned to David, I was like, that girl is going to be a superstar.
It was just so obvious.
But did you have this plan at all?
Like, I know you were kind of curious and you were figuring it out, and there were one or two things that I asked you about politics that you were kind of like, I don't know yet, I don't want to comment on that yet, which I thought was pretty impressive, actually.
But you have just, like, marched forward.
The machine has tried to destroy you how many times now?
And, you know, I think, again, kind of hinting at the naivety of that first interview, which is really beautiful to watch, is that I just never could have imagined that people would try to destroy me.
I never would have imagined even that I wasn't allowed to not have an opinion on some things, that I wasn't allowed to grow as a person and say I'm still learning because I was still learning.
I had ideas and feelings about things, but I didn't really have the facts on my side.
And I had no idea that when you're in politics, they're just looking to expose you.
She's a fake.
She's a fraud.
Oh, look, she doesn't know this.
She's stupid.
So I had to grow up pretty quick, you know, and really kind of sharpen my figurative sword and really get ready and do a lot of studying.
But, yeah, I could have never imagined.
I had no plan.
I was just saying what I thought to be real and what I thought to be true.
Yeah, and I know that you're not just saying it because every time I've been with you when we've done road gigs together or whatever, like you've got ten books with you, we had dinner at your house last night, you're working on farming now, like you're always just trying to learn more and more.
And I will be welcomed at your off-location site, right, when the grid goes down and everything?
Yeah, I actually, as you just hinted on, I'm kind of going through this thing now where I realize that, you know, we are all dependents and we are all on welfare if we don't know how to grow our own food and support ourselves.
And I think that that really speaks to the drama of this administration, of realizing that, I know a lot of Americans empathize with the idea that we feel like we're losing our country and that we really have communists in the White House.
And, you know, we are watching all of Americans be depressed.
In that vein, I said to myself, you know, if this really does hit, right, if we are suddenly living in a communist country in three years, four years, however you want to call it, can I fend for myself?
I think you need two months, I think.
Yeah, two months, right.
Can I fend for myself?
Can I grow my own food?
What do I know about living off of the land?
So that is something, yeah, that I'm just now learning now, and what better place to do it than in Tennessee, right?
I mean, everybody's farming, hunting, so yeah, that's kind of another thing that I'm exploring now.
If you had said to me that first day that we sat down, like, here's what's going to happen.
You're going to end up living in Nashville, Tennessee, and you're going to be married to an Englishman that you have gotten to engage to after two weeks of knowing each other.
What it says to me is that fear is one hell of a currency.
And I have been hitting on this on my own show, making people aware of the fact that the second somebody can identify what it is that you are fearful over, they can exert control over you.
I don't think that we have ever seen that displayed more than in the COVID-19 circumstances.
And I'm not just talking about the left and liberals.
Let's not forget.
Let's not have a short memory.
You know, when this pandemic hit, you actually tried to make me work out things with Sam Harris.
I mean, we had conservatives, people that were more in the middle, that were saying, no, lockdown's now, at least for now, at least for a couple of weeks.
And I was always like, hell no.
Hell no.
I know what this is.
It's paralyzing fear.
You're showing us uniquely, even the death count.
I mean, how bizarre for a news organization to say, stay at home, and then every time somebody dies, just add a number on the screen.
I mean, that's literally a game of psychological fear.
And I think that because I'm a bit more of a gut player, and because I truly do understand how sinister governments can be, it's been the story of human history since forever, I'm never willing to give up a little bit of freedom for a little bit of safety.
Well, it's so funny to me because since I know you privately and as a friend, I know that the stuff that you talk about publicly, even when I'm like, ah, Candace went a little overboard on that one, I'm like, I know that is you.
That really is you.
And we told the story once, but the day that lockdown started, you were on my show in LA.
We didn't know at the time we were taping that lockdowns were about to happen.
Right.
You were literally coughing up blood.
You were coughing up blood.
Your friend or your assistant at the time was there also.
She was sick.
David's looking at me like, we're going to be trapped in the house for months with Candace.
She's going to die here.
Like, it's all over.
But you were like, you were just like, no, I don't have COVID.
I'm fine.
Like, it has something to do with the pillows at the hotel.
And everyone's insane and I'm going to get the hell out of here.
Yeah, you know, I get that question all the time, and the truth is that, like, I'm my granddaddy's granddaughter.
I mean, he just was a tough guy.
He just passed in September.
I obviously dedicated my book to him, my first book to him.
And, you know, I have just always looked at my life in comparison to his.
And it's the reason why when people talk about their oppression, I think of a man who grew up in segregated South who never ever ever spoke about being oppressed, never spoke about
why people were racist, never spoke about how the white man was after him. He just
got up every day and he worked and he did that from a time he was five years old
on a sharecropping farm. I find this generation of individuals to be a little
bit pathetic.
I think we're a little bit pathetic. I think you know the greatest generation
that ever lived you know yielded the most pathetic generation that's ever
lived which is we're walking among walking among us today.
We just can't do anything for ourselves, and I don't want to be that.
And the other thing is, I'm just wired this way.
I was like this since I was a little girl.
My parents always tell stories about me.
I was just one of those precocious kids that just never allowed an adult to tell me what to do without reason.
I never responded to arbitrary authority.
I was one of those kids that if your parents were like, Well, you know, clean your bed or Santa's not going to come.
I would say, like, you tell him not to come, right?
And so they were always laughing and having to close the door to reprimand me because I was kind of like this little adult.
And I think my character is really just that I respect authority, but the authority can't be arbitrary.
It needs to make sense.
And if it doesn't make sense and you're okay with it, then, you know, that sets up the grounds for slavery.
I get this question all the time, and I used to say no, and now I say never say never.
You know, I've had those conversations with my husband before about what it would actually mean, and I definitely would never be in Congress, I can tell you, absolutely not.
I've done two of those hearings, I would rather honestly pull out all of my fingernails.
Do you have anyone that you've been trying to talk to to get into a debate with that has refused them?
There's got to be some, but you've, you've done, you've done a couple of these, like with Russell Brand, who you had major differences with, and a couple other people.
I find it very hard to get these people to talk at this point because we are racist homophobic people.
Is there anyone that's on your list that you feel like if you could just get them to break, maybe it would do something really big?
You know, not anymore, because obviously there's just been this long frustration with realizing that they love to talk about you to garner clicks, but when you say, hey, show up, if you're about it, show up, they always say no.
I mean, I think even last week we invited Anna Kasparian.
I think she's dedicated hours and hours— No big fan of mine.
Hours of coverage of me and I have dedicated literally zero seconds of coverage to her and I said, okay Let's have her on the show and hadn't have a civil conversation and and she declined so I Russell Brand is an amazing human being he really is and he's saying stuff the reason why he was willing to host Me and it's willing to host others is because he genuinely believed what he was saying, right?
If you genuinely believe what you are saying, even if it's wrong, but you believe it to be true I can deal with that And we can talk and we can have a conversation because we both want to become better and we both want to discover the truth.
If you know what you are saying is a lie and you tell that lie day in and day out, you have to hide, right?
Because you can't face yourself and you can't face the truth.
So I always think that that kind of marks the difference in the personalities that we see on the left and there's not too many of them that are willing to sit down with people on the right.
It's actually funny you say that because I would say about five episodes ago, maybe a few more, I kind of sat down with the team and I said, let's make this show more positive, right?
Because the feeling that I was getting of even reporting on some of this stuff was it was just getting so depressing and so overwhelming.
And I was like, there's a way to still tell people what's going on.
Without people walking away feeling like we're going to lose this country.
And the truth is that I'm hopeful and I'm optimistic or I wouldn't get up in the morning.
If I genuinely thought that we had no shot at winning, what would be my incentive for getting up in the morning and doing this and producing this show?
Same for you, right?
What would be your incentive?
And I know I mentioned this to you last night, but there's also this element of realizing that the reason why they've been so obviously corrupt, right?
It's never been more in your face.
Hey, we're just going to teach your kids pornography, right?
Parents are domestic terrorists.
This is like wild.
This is not even a good strategy for the left to do this, right?
Well, they're losing control.
And when Barack Obama was president, they didn't need to censor.
They didn't need to kick people off of platforms.
They didn't need any of that because they actually owned the narrative.
They were winning.
In 2008, the Democrat Party was legitimately winning, right?
They didn't need to say, mail-in ballots forever or anything weird because they were legitimately winning and we were all asleep.
Me being among them, you being among them, completely asleep at the wheel.
Well, now things have changed.
Um, and because of that change, because they feel like they're losing grip, they're becoming more desperate.
So I tell people to remain optimistic and inspired by their desperation.
What do you think their move is as they get more desperate?
Because they can't let this go on for too long, right?
This is what we were talking about last night.
It's like if enough of us are awake and if we're waking up people and they're seeing the truth and they can watch the Rittenhouse trial, see how MSNBC reports it versus what's actually going on, it's like they can't, the powers that be can't let that exist for too long because then they have a much bigger problem on their hands.
They're literally saying to you, we're not the fourth estate.
We are a part of the government.
We're a part of corporate media.
Our job is to protect the government, not to protect the individuals that are being governed.
And you're seeing them call for more and more censorship.
They're angry.
They're frustrated by the fact that they spent all day working on their show, and maybe they get 100,000 viewers.
Mike gets in a tweet that will get more views.
They don't know what to do with that.
Yeah. And so in their frustration, they're demanding more censorship.
But it's like you just can't censor people until there's no more.
I think what's coming up around the corner and something that I've been telling people to pay attention to,
is that the World Economic Forum, the same people that predicted
the coronavirus pandemic, are now predicting a cyber pandemic.
Where they predict that because of the Internet and things like Bitcoin being uncontrolled, that they're going
to have to physically shut down the power grid because there's going to be a
virus, literally.
Think of coronavirus for your computer is what they actually said in this forum.
That is going to spread very quickly, so they're gonna have to shut down the power grid to stop it.
And for a couple of days, whatever it is, you're not gonna have access to your money
or access to the Internet.
And then when they turn things back on in order to avoid a shutdown like that again,
they're gonna need to sanitize the Internet.
This is actually language that the World Economic Forum is using, sitting down with the biggest corporations in the world, talking about what they are describing as an inevitable coronavirus pandemic for your computer.
That's the stuff to pay attention to because that would allow them to, similarly in the COVID-19 pandemic, usher in a bunch of things that we've never seen before.
That, I think, would provide a venue for them to take control of the Internet, to take out people like me and like you, to say that we had to sanitize the Internet to keep everybody safe.
So I always tell people to kind of look around the bend, hope it doesn't happen, but always be aware of any types of simulation, you know, the World Economic Forum is running.
And then at that point of two days even, even eight hours where we couldn't get online, you wouldn't have access to Twitter or your bank account or whatever, people would beg for the control at that point, right?
But imagine a place like Tennessee, which, I mean, a place like New York City or Los Angeles.
These people live, eat, and breathe technology.
There is nothing without technology in New York City.
It's literally just, it looks like a piece of technology when you look at it from the sky, right?
And so imagine those people not having access, the whole power grid going down.
Let's say they do it for four days, right?
And they would be beside themselves.
They wouldn't know what to do.
I don't even know what they would be eating, what would happen in the grocery stores.
They can't keep the refrigerators on.
I mean, it would really represent something that would traumatize these people.
Rightfully so.
It would be a traumatizing thing for them to go through.
Their livelihood would be immediately impacted.
And when that power grid went back on, if the government said, like, you know, now you have access to your money, everything's back, but here's what we have to do to make sure that four days never happens again.
Just like they were the first in line for the vaccine cards.
Don't let us go into restaurants because they will be so paralyzed by fear.
These individuals will then be begging the government for more censorship, begging the government to sanitize the internet, begging, saying, whatever freedoms you have to take away from me, take it.
I just want to make sure that that never happens again.
Back to our thesis here about fear and how that, as a driver, is the biggest threat to humanity and freedom for humanity.
I gotta tell you Candace it's weird because we do this publicly and privately so there's this like odd lens around it sort of in a public sense but I am just so truly I'm so proud of you it's like that's what I feel when I'm with you like I feel like you're doing something real and so many people that I've come across in this it's not real it's fake or it's confused or it's muddled or something and and you're the real deal and it's very cool that But I'm part of you.