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Exposing the Democrats' Hypocrisy & Growing Up in a Cult | Rose McGowan | WOMEN | Rubin Report
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rose mcgowan
Governor Newsom.
His ex-wife, Jennifer Newsom, Jennifer Siebold Newsom, I think that is her name, yes.
She called me, and she set up a meeting with me to meet her somewhere in Brentwood.
And I actually went, and I got very, like, creeped out, and I saw her sitting where I was supposed to meet her, and I looked at her, and I turned around and went back into my car and drove away.
She wanted to meet me.
dave rubin
She reached out— Wait, when is this?
When is this, just to be clear?
rose mcgowan
This is about six months before the New York Times article on Weinstein that I set up broke.
dave rubin
Okay.
rose mcgowan
And she called me on behalf of a Theranos board member, the lawyer for, long time lawyer of Hillary and Bill
and Clinton and Weinstein, one David Boies.
unidentified
(upbeat music)
dave rubin
I'm Dave Rubin and joining me today is a New York Times bestselling author,
a global activist and a destroyer of bad people, Rose McGowan.
Finally, welcome to The Rubin Report.
rose mcgowan
Finally, Dave Rubin, and so we meet.
Hello.
dave rubin
Destroyer, destroyer of bad people.
I felt that sort of captured your essence.
How do you feel about that?
rose mcgowan
I think that's right on target.
There was somebody right after, because I started going after Governor Cuomo about last January, right away on behalf of Lindsey Boylan.
And someone on Twitter, the day he resigned, he wrote, someone wrote on Twitter, a woman, God help you if Rose McGowan comes after you.
And I'm like, finally, someone recognizes me!
Christ!
How many times do I have to tell these people, like, I mean what I say?
dave rubin
You have seriously destroyed some people, some pretty awful people, and we'll get to some of that stuff and, you know, I want to talk about some new stuff with you too, but I've just learned something about you in the last couple days that we've been chatting, that you're a Larry Elder gal.
And I'm a Larry Elder guy, and here we are, so talk to me.
rose mcgowan
Yeah, I was that weird, I don't know if I might have been the only performer in California ever under contract to Paramount Studios or Viacom that would leave set and listen to AM640, Larry Elder.
After that it would be John and Ken.
Sometimes, if I got really riled up, I would pull over on the way home, I always use the name Tracy.
I try to find the most basic name I could find, because my voice was somewhat recognizable, so I was like, Rose, obviously.
And I would literally call and go off on the teacher's union of California or LA or like the vice, you know, the why is the state legislature one full calendar year, because it used to only be six months for the state legislature that they got paid.
And then they're like, well, we can achieve more if you pay us for a whole year.
But yeah, you only work for six months, if.
So yeah, Larry Elder.
dave rubin
Wait, so you actually used a fake name and were calling into Larry Elder's show over the years?
rose mcgowan
Yes.
dave rubin
And were you, I mean, I don't consider you conservative, and I know the labels all sorta mean nothing, and especially for someone like you, the idea of putting you in a box is kinda nuts, but like, do you, I mean, do you sorta consider yourself conservative now, or libertarian-ish, or?
rose mcgowan
No.
dave rubin
Like, what?
rose mcgowan
Smart, intelligent, like, not dumb, and logical.
Nobody seems to like to listen to that.
Labels to me, I mean, if you flip things all the time, like the other night someone is yelling at me and like, I'm trying to sleep, and I was like, congratulations, I am trying to stay awake.
Or, you know, I like flipping the language.
So like, literally the etymology of language is something that fascinates me.
So if we took conservative and if you take the word liberal, both now have like a, because they've been slimed and smeared and weaponized, right?
Aggressively weaponized against each other and against humans all over the world.
But if you look at the definition of both, they're quite beautiful and both are valid and both can coexist.
So like, you know, Libservative?
I don't know.
I don't know.
That's not pretty.
I'll come up with something better.
But I really think just by taking the power out of what something traditionally means, I mean, it was all invented at one point anyway.
dave rubin
Well, you know, that Jordan Peterson guy that I toured with was always talking about that healthy tension between conservative and liberal, that that's what you want if you're going to be in a sane society.
rose mcgowan
I don't know about a sane society, because I think that's still very limited.
I think, like, there's only two options at that point.
If you have only two options ever, and there's no other choice, I mean, I think the biggest thing that, you know, I would like to run on if I ever run for anything, if they can make it so I don't have to live in the U.S.
but can be a political figure there, I'll do it.
dave rubin
Yeah, you're not thrilled with the U.S.
these days, huh?
rose mcgowan
I guess that's orders 11.
We'll put a pin in that and we'll go back to it.
But the thing is, the largest voting bloc I'm pretty sure is the non-voter.
Who's representing them?
Maybe me?
dave rubin
Rose McGowan, for the non-voter, from another country.
unidentified
I like it.
rose mcgowan
Yeah, I have a podcast I'm doing.
I've recorded four episodes so far.
Definitely not normal, I guess, according to podcast standards.
The first one, the engineer's like, OK, begin.
And I'm like, fuck, what now?
And I smoke a bowl.
I take a toke into the microphone, exhale, and then just freeform.
Who knows what comes out, but it weirdly works, I think.
So, one of the episodes is about the fact that we are constantly talking about the voters in the media, in the U.S.
especially, and all over, but the people that are not the voters.
So, why aren't we talking to them?
Why aren't we analyzing that?
We know why, because they're only given two choices, and it's clearly not working.
And as many alcoholics who go to AA know, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.
dave rubin
Yeah, we're quite good at that in the United States.
Let's back up, though, for a second to this elder situation, because I'm pretty amazed that you were calling in, like, I can just sort of picture you on Mulholland.
rose mcgowan
The nerd of Panamera.
dave rubin
Like, they've got to go into the archives and find some of these things.
But it's not just that you like Larry, and you like what's going on with his campaign, and we've got a couple of days left to save this freaking state.
You really do not like Gavin Newsom, right?
rose mcgowan
No, I do not like Gavin Newsom.
I do not.
dave rubin
Take it away.
rose mcgowan
Newsom at all.
In fact, I think, um, I would submit that single parents in California get less money for food from the government than he spends on his daily moisturizing treatments.
And I think that goes, you know, that sounds like, ah, little zinger, but no, it really goes to show what these people prioritize, okay?
Who they really are.
I was in California when he was lieutenant governor.
I've been there, you know, I was living there for a long time when he was, like, desperately trying to be governor.
And it's like, dude, you look like Guido Jr.
from a movie.
What are you doing?
Like, you're not the man, and you're a lie.
dave rubin
Well, he looks like the guy from American Psycho.
Well, I think— He's the guy.
He's Christian Bale in American Psycho.
rose mcgowan
I'm fairly sure that he did some, like, a deepfake AI where he stuck his face on Christian Bale's in the shower scene and probably also masturbates to that on the loop.
Just saying.
Can you say that on your show?
dave rubin
You can say that on my show.
We have no rules here.
rose mcgowan
So it's not so much that I love Larry Elder, because some things, you know, like there's
you know certain things that I'm not as conservative on or I don't even like that word like I said,
but square, square, okay square.
I'm a little bit more like I like weirdos, I like tiny adventures, I like seeing where
the night goes, hey.
But I also like his mind.
I like his dedication.
I love his passion.
I love the fact that he is a true patriot.
What we need is patriots.
What we need are patriots.
I am a patriot.
You are a patriot.
Anybody can be a patriot.
The non-voter can be a patriot.
Gavin Newsom, not a patriot.
There.
Now you see when I flash anger, people always think I'm like that all the time, it's like a thundercloud and then I'm back to me.
dave rubin
Yeah.
Yeah, and that was hopeful, not anger.
rose mcgowan
Thank you.
That's what I think.
People always say angry, and I'm like, passionate.
And I feel like I'm like the cheerleader.
Like, come on, we can do this, people.
We've got this.
Rise up.
You know what's been happening to you.
You know what the truth is.
Stop suspecting it and go into the fact that it is a fact.
OK, let's operate from a point of fact at this point.
I get so many people, most especially American media, likes to do this to me.
So you feel this way.
No, I didn't tell you how I felt about it.
I told you today the sky was blue in Los Angeles.
I did not tell you, wow, I feel really great or horrible that the sky was blue.
The sky is blue.
So it's like gaslighting, and they do it individually, and cult members, cult structural societies, what they mistake is that they, you know, in the movies, and I grew up in one, I would know, I have like a PhD in that, but how I diagnose it in the U.S., I'll take that as my test model, It's that, you know, where they always get it wrong in films, literature, this and that, is that it's portrayed as like this Svengali where everyone's just kind of nodding and it goes about in their drone-like way.
It's not quite like that.
There is the, you know, the authoritarian.
But then it's up to every single member of every single cult, micro or macro, to cross-hypnotize at all times.
And if one person, say me, say you, say Larry Elder, say the punk weirdo that's like yelling truth from under a bridge, whoever you listen to, stands up and is like, no!
We're not having this.
You know what is true.
And you just say it.
And you take it on the chin for saying it.
I've certainly taken it on the chin.
Like, in every other part of my body.
Like, don't say it.
I'm like, but you all know it!
And what my enemies and your enemies, I'm guessing, fundamentally don't understand are my motivations, maybe yours.
I have no skin in this game other than the fact that I can.
Other than the fact that I worked my ass off to stay just relevant enough worldwide as an actress so I could lifehack their system, so I could gain access to their cameras and microphones, and I could fuck them in the ass in their lubrication.
unidentified
Here I am.
rose mcgowan
Nice to meet you, Dave.
And now you know.
dave rubin
But Rose, on Twitter, it often says, some people say, or experts say.
Doesn't that mean we're supposed to always follow that information?
rose mcgowan
Well, that would be Bob in the coffee room.
So, some people.
Some people could be, you know, my imaginary friend.
Like, some people gets you away with a lot of stuff.
Some people is also like, so you feel this way, huh?
While they look at you.
Like, the only way we're going to grow and get better is if, like, call it what it is.
You know, just, it's like, I've done it and the world has tried to kill me.
unidentified
Yes.
rose mcgowan
I almost said, see, because I live in Mexico.
But, you know, it is really, I think, incumbent on all of us to just shape.
We don't have time.
We're running out of time.
So like on that interview on Nightline, the last thing she said, and it was like a warning in this journalist's eyes, she leans into me.
unidentified
These are very powerful people you're talking about.
rose mcgowan
And I look at her and I pause.
Don't underestimate the effect of a good pause, Dave.
And I say, I know.
So am I. And I took that from an Army slogan, weirdly, that I started thinking about.
Do you remember back in the day when they changed it from Be All You Can Be, which is, you know, a great tagline, a great slogan, Army, Be All You Can Be.
And then they changed it to an Army of One.
That doesn't, not quite as catchy, right?
But then I started breaking it down.
And I was like, I started thinking about it, that was about eight years before I set up the articles to expose Weinstein.
And I started thinking about it.
I'm like an army of one.
Well, I can be an army and I can say I'm an army.
So I started just hashtagging Rose Army.
I had no army, but I do like the Spartans and I really liked their Trojan horse idea.
So then I had to sound like I was coming with all sorts of backup.
But it was, you know, and of course it was portrayed as she's coming after men.
And I'm like, believe me, there's so many women that support this structure that, you know, like, let's take the new governor.
Everyone's like, the first female governor of New York.
She was there, so she knew stuff, too.
A cult takes everybody to support it.
It takes a cross-hypnosis, and it takes the gaslighting.
But the thing is, what's great about you, your viewers, your people that think differently, that look at it, just take your lenses and go a little bit abstract, a little bit above, and look down.
And dissect the situation and your truth, even if it's just you that knows it.
That is enough.
That is enough for you to be an army of one.
And an army of one can then tagline with other armies, other armies, and we can become a massive force.
And I think that's beautiful.
dave rubin
So, that being said, as someone that has, you know, had the machine try to destroy them over and over again, and who took down the most powerful people in Hollywood, I mean, Weinstein specifically, what do you think it is about you, like, you specifically, that, like, allows you to do it and keep going?
Because everyone that I talk to, wherever I go, they're always like, oh, I wanna speak up more, but I have a job, or, oh, I wanna speak up more, but I have kids, or, all of the things that are legit reasons, right, they're legit at some level, and then on the other hand, You know, they know they have something inside them that they're holding back, that's feeding it.
I mean, that's the sort of hypnosis that you're talking about.
rose mcgowan
The big difference, honestly, is that I was not raised like you or pretty much anybody else on this planet.
And at first, people take a little umbrage at that.
I'm unique, too.
Yes, you are.
Absolutely.
But if you look at me like kind of a feral child that was born and raised in the woods with no real contact with the outside world except for very select people that raised all the children to be superminds, what would happen to these children if they didn't know the outside world, if we did not use their language?
If we did not expose them to really drilling home, they were a boy or a girl or a race or an anything, they were just minds.
That's me.
And then overnight, you know, got broken up.
The organization, the group I was in that my father was the leader of, and I got thrown out into Gig Harbor, Washington, and to a really unattractive military-based school.
Boom, boom.
And in my language, in my birth language, English is my third language, in my first, which very few people other than people in the children of God know and speak or spoke, everybody that was not us were called systemites.
dave rubin
Wait, what is the language?
rose mcgowan
It's invented, but so is yours.
dave rubin
No, but what's it called?
rose mcgowan
It doesn't have a name.
I don't know the name.
It was just what we spoke.
And so our word for everybody outside our walls, we called everybody systemites.
And they're not wrong, that's the thing.
The problem with most cults and why they don't succeed and why an American cult as a total cult cannot succeed, or any nation cult cannot succeed, both micro and macro, is because they're formed, I think, in a way that really negatively impacts the reason those people you're talking about why they can't get there, not just kids or jobs, and yes, you have to be pretty much selfless and willing to take the hits, but also, I was not notified at age three or four that I was a girl.
And here's what you can't do.
We're going to tie your hands behind your back with politeness, little girl.
And we're going to train you.
So it's around age two, three.
Go sit on your uncle's lap.
Give him a kiss.
You don't want to.
Give him a kiss.
Think about it.
Then the boys, you get put in straight jackets.
Around two, three.
Have fun getting out of that for the rest of your life.
So your life, the systemites, everybody that was not us, essentially, and the reason why we didn't succeed, the cult I was in that my father led did not succeed.
It's because he came from the systemite world.
I did not.
So for me, I have no skin in this game and all the skin.
I'm going for broke because I can, because why not?
And I was a weird kid, sure.
I had Venn diagrams of Napoleon's battle plans on my wall with pins, Alexander the Great.
Then I'd read his writings, Napoleon or something, then I'd read five biographies on that particular battle, and I would just ferret out what the truth was.
For me, I was always trying to find the truth.
But I just like strategy and one of the great ways that I succeed, I've made no money from my success in terms of slaying the giant Hydra that is the hellscape we're living in.
I'm like, stay down!
I need backup!
But I slay dragons.
unidentified
Why?
rose mcgowan
What else am I doing?
At the end of my podcast, which is called The Cultural Reset, it's going to be on Substack, I end it with, why?
Why the fuck not?
And you know what?
Sometimes it's fun.
You have fun, right?
Sometimes we have fun.
Yeah.
And people like, when I called Oprah a lizard, you know, which I believe is true, I've always felt that way.
When I saw her first on TV when I was small, when I came to the States and I'd never seen a television, I didn't know who she was, but I saw her interviewing somebody that was in an immense amount of pain.
And her eyes were like not connected at all, but the words coming out of her mouth were very soft and soothing, but nothing in the eyes connected.
And I was, I was like, I actually was, sorry, my ear thing is having a situation.
No problem.
No problem.
It's, I was scared of her that, I wasn't scared of her, but I was like, like my, ah, like I just, I've had, and maybe it is because growing up with a father who was very good at wiring people's minds.
He was very good at it.
Not always for nefarious reasons, but always for ego reasons.
I don't have that ego.
I just don't.
I might seem egotistical to some, I've certainly been called that, but I think it's also people are unused to people saying what they're good at.
Just plainly.
I also know what I'm really bad at.
I suck at quite a few things.
I'm also fucking great at a lot of things.
So, meh.
Go from there.
dave rubin
So there we are.
There we are.
Before we completely lose the political part, the Newsom part.
rose mcgowan
It all goes together, so Newsom.
dave rubin
Yeah, no, it all sort of fits, but I know you've got something you wanted to talk about about Newsom specifically.
rose mcgowan
Yes, Dave.
Thank you for reminding me.
Oh, I feel like Hal 2000.
Yes, Dave.
dave rubin
No, Dave.
Sorry, Dave.
rose mcgowan
No, Dave.
Sorry, Dave.
That's strange.
So yes, Governor Newsom.
His ex-wife, Jennifer Newsom, Jennifer Sebald Newsom, I think that is her name, yes.
She called me, and she set up a meeting with me to meet her somewhere in Brentwood.
And I actually went, and I got very creeped out, and I saw her sitting where I was supposed to meet her, and I looked at her, and I turned around and went back into my car and drove away.
She wanted to meet me.
dave rubin
She reached out— Wait, when is this?
When is this, just to be clear?
rose mcgowan
This is about six months before the New York Times article on Weinstein that I set up broke.
dave rubin
Okay.
rose mcgowan
And she called me on behalf of a Theranos board member, the lawyer for, longtime lawyer of Hillary and Bill and Clinton and Weinstein, one David Boyce.
So this woman, I don't know, some blonde lady named, with the last name of Newsom, cold calls me.
I was like, David Boyce wants to know what it would take to make you happy.
dave rubin
Six months before the Weinstein story, what would it take to make you happy, which you took as, for those that might be playing along, a little bit slowly?
rose mcgowan
I don't know.
I don't know if it would be fiscal remuneration.
I don't know.
Like, absolutely nothing would make me happy.
You falling off the planet, David Boies, and your whole company, if you all fall off the planet, I would be happy.
Since you cannot do that, I will remain unhappy with you, and you shall deal with my displeasure.
But they're scary.
These are operators.
They're tied into SDK Knickerbocker.
They're tied into Hillary.
They're tied into Nancy Pelosi.
This is all backdoor bullshit for their gain, and we're tired of it.
We're suffering.
People are dying.
Not just because of stupid-ass COVID, but because their fucking system is fucking killing us.
And I've had it.
And I think a lot of us had.
So now, it's time to go from feeling, I feel this is all bullshit, to fact, it is all bullshit.
And vote Larry Elder, because why?
Why the fuck not?
What have you got to lose?
How's it going, people?
How's your systemite society working for you?
Try something different.
Might as well.
There's my pitch.
I used to volunteer years ago at a place called Covenant House, and I never did it with cameras, and I would go and I would speak to homeless, runaway trans kids, because I was taken in by them when I was a homeless 13-year-old.
That's who raised me.
They were like my mothers, right?
So I always felt like I would repay the favor.
And I knew that state-run therapy could not help them in the way that I could because I don't use language the same way most people do.
And I'm not scared.
So when a kid, when the therapist would say, this goes together with this, how did that make you feel?
And they're like, the hard shell comes up.
That doesn't make me feel anything.
And I, because I'm not bound by state laws or regular normal ways of conversing, which is why I'm effective, I believe, is simply because I said, Really, that would hurt me so badly.
I would feel so betrayed and abandoned if the person I came here with abandoned me on the first day and left me to rot on the streets.
That would, like, shake my faith in humans and everything else.
And I feel like that is what the state of California needs to say to Gavin Newsom on Election Day.
You have betrayed us, you have hurt us, you and your whole type,
because you are one in a long line of lizards, and we don't want you anymore.
I like lizards, I like real lizards, but I don't like the fake lizards.
So clean house, you can do it.
Go to the polls, do it for me, 'cause I'm not gonna, you got this.
dave rubin
Just to be totally clear here, Gavin Newsom's wife-- - Or ex-wife.
Wanted to sit down with you, which then turned out to be on the phone,
where she said, "What can Harvey Weinstein's lawyer do "to make this story go away?"
What's the connection to Gavin Newsom's wife?
Why was it that she was the one that was calling you?
rose mcgowan
They mystified me, too, because they tried every way they could.
They tried every single way they could to get to me.
I mean, my literary agency, Dupre Miller, who I hired to represent me, to shepherd and protect my book from Weinstein.
Jan Miller, it's a big literary firm, and they were secretly—they were exposed for secretly working with Weinstein the entire time they were supposed to be protecting my book.
They were exposed in the New York Times for that.
And when I met her, this Jan Miller woman, she was bragging about, like, giving a $15,000 plate dinner for David Boies and Bill and Hillary that night in Dallas.
So, you know, do the math.
It's all connected.
It is all connected.
One at a time.
I am coming.
dave rubin
Yeah.
I mean, that seems like a fairly big scandal with an election coming in four days, basically.
rose mcgowan
I guess in my world, it's like Tuesday at 2 p.m.
dave rubin
It's just like another.
rose mcgowan
Like literally, do you remember?
dave rubin
Oh, the governor's wife calling me to, you know, basically shut me up with money about the biggest sex scandal of all time.
rose mcgowan
It's a serial rapist.
And I loathe the media.
They're always like, disgraced producer.
I'm like, if he was an indigent black rapist, would you say disgraced, disgraced homeless rapist?
No, he is a convicted serial rapist.
Let's just say it.
We can all be adults.
It wasn't pleasant.
It wasn't fun.
They really built a beast in me.
And all I ever wanted to do in my whole life, Dave, was lay under a tree at night, in the grass, and look for owls.
dave rubin
I know.
I know.
I know that's true with you.
You love the owls.
And we've got this very bizarre owl connection.
We both have owls hanging outside our houses.
rose mcgowan
We'll get to that in part two.
But so I said the things, if there are people out there that can go in on this and work it out and expose more, yes, they're all part of it.
And this whole, like, Oprah saying, like, or Meryl Streep or Gavin Newsom, oh, we were in our ivory tower.
We just didn't know anything about it.
We're too fancy for that.
That's just those, you know, the little actresses.
They wore short skirts.
They deserved it.
No.
This was a machine.
This is a machine.
It has many, many tentacles.
One tentacle is the human trafficking arm of it, right?
He had a daily appointment for rape, 1 p.m.
unidentified
around, 1 p.m.
rose mcgowan
every day.
Daily appointment for many years anywhere.
There's a film festival and it takes his protection.
I introduced Hillary At Ozzy Fest about three something years ago in Central Park.
So it's like, it was like a rock concert for speakers.
So they got me up there.
And at this point, I just really found out how deep involved in this whole thing, like that camp was, right?
And that it hadn't really been publicly outed yet by me or anybody.
And so they said, okay, so you're gonna introduce Hillary.
And I'm like, great, I got this.
So the last thing I said to this, like, it was like a rock concert, right?
I'm up there.
And I said, and the last thing I will say to you all today, Harvey Weinstein was protected by the Democratic Party!
unidentified
Welcome to the stage, Hillary Clinton!
rose mcgowan
And this collective northern liberal gasp, like, and suddenly I was literally yanked off stage.
They wouldn't let me go backstage.
She took my purse.
I'm walking out of Central Park.
I see her, like, town car go by.
I see the hair, like, you know, in profile.
And I just see her face, like, in profile go.
And I was like, Nailed it.
dave rubin
Wow.
rose mcgowan
But I can.
I serve.
I serve.
Why?
Because I was born to.
dave rubin
Is there video of that?
I mean, that, that, oh my god.
It's gotta be somewhere.
rose mcgowan
Maybe.
Let's say I looked for it on their site, but of course, no.
You know, they take down everything.
But it, like, somebody out there has that video?
I certainly, I certainly did it.
dave rubin
So what do you think this thing is, sort of?
Is it like a Hollywood protection, not even just Hollywood, is it just the machine protection racket?
It's sort of, we're all sort of in it, whatever it is, we're all protecting each other.
Every now and again, we have to sacrifice somebody so that the masses don't fully get what we're all doing.
Because, you know, when you're mentioning Oprah and Meryl Streep and everything, I know a lot of people are gonna be like, but I like Oprah, I like Meryl Streep.
rose mcgowan
Yeah, I would like to like them too.
Trust me, every time I discover someone is exactly as I suspected, I am very, like, bummed out.
It doesn't make me happy.
It does not make me happy.
Gosh, if you don't think I want someone to be real, like, please, somebody be real.
Just somebody be what they say.
But the reality is I meet bus drivers that are real.
The reality is I meet an owner of a 7-Eleven franchise in Detroit named Robert.
He's real.
Those are the real people, right?
Not them.
And you know, and I know, that the Pentagon Like, CIA, it all goes.
Like, I believe the reason we're not at war with Iran right now and people might start laughing is because Top Gun 2 was delayed because of COVID.
Now you think about that for a second.
Top Gun 1.
No, you're going to laugh.
dave rubin
I just, while I was off the grid, I only watched one movie, basically.
It was Top Gun.
So I'm going to really follow this with you.
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Right.
rose mcgowan
So if you look at it historically, so after the Vietnam War, Very low military enrollment.
People saw it for what it was.
They were not into it.
They were like, done.
So then they're like, damn, we need a war soon.
We need to ramp it up.
So what do we do?
Top Gun.
So anytime you mention the CIA, even in like a sitcom, you have to say something positive about them.
They control and approve any use of even those three letters, right?
Any use of anything like the Pentagon, anything like that.
So it's tit for tat, but it's also total directives.
And the directive is, we need to staff our restaurant that's opening in six months to a year.
That's the directive.
It worked.
Top Gun came out.
My little brother watched it.
He went to the Air Force Academy.
He's a fighter pilot.
He flies F-16s and F-18s.
You know, the realest text I ever got in my life was from him when he was in Afghanistan texting me, I just dropped on my first target.
And now they all ask, why did I do that?
Because these people all work in concert.
On the surface, they say that America's number one export is Hollywood.
First of all, they're stupid.
They're not good at business.
They could be making so much more.
Because they have a terrible work ethic and they're dodos, they leave a lot of money on the table.
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But more importantly, the government- And they're making a lot of crappy shit, too, at this point.
dave rubin
Like, they're not even faking it anymore, right?
rose mcgowan
Well, just like everyone's like, oh God, they're gonna kill Epstein.
And then they do, and they're like, yep, guess they did.
Like, they're not even pretending, right?
Exactly.
But like, every part of it, it's like when Mexico tried to get its land back from being stolen by the US, Who runs to Hollywood with a new and invented word called marijuana?
Let's make it sound Latin, Spanish, scary, Mexican.
And then they do one-minute movies in Hollywood.
They pump out, this is like 1940s, before all the other movies.
Oh yeah, I've seen it.
A Jewish guy painted brown in a sombrero, like chasing after a white college girl, smoking the marijuana!
Like that, like this is how they do it.
And it is in concert, and it is brainwashing, and it is manipulation.
And it's all connected.
The reason—if Hollywood was, in fact, America's number one export, do you think there would be government oversight?
There is not.
There's no human resources department for that shithole.
And if it stayed local, if it stayed there, that would be great.
I wouldn't fuck with them.
I'd be like, losers, hang out.
But their loserdom goes to the world.
And I know that people are putting thought in your head, which is why four days after the Weinstein expose broke, I tweeted at Jeff Bezos, 1-2-3-4, and I made my case.
By two hours later, his personal attorney called me on my cell phone.
Probably got my number off my Amazon account.
Maybe.
I don't know.
And I explained what was up.
Ice Roy Price, head of the studio.
Why?
I was deeply offended that that stupid man was putting thought in your head and my head and everybody's head.
Because when you sit down to watch something, your brain is open.
You want to go away.
That is the exchange between the screen and the audience.
And what they have been implanting in American minds.
We're the nerve center, and our stuff goes to the world.
So other people get a watered-down version of our fuckery, and they certainly have their own fuckery.
But we are ground zero for the fuckery.
And what I see being done to people in the U.S., I just came back to the U.S.
for the first time in almost two years, right?
No.
You don't deserve this.
You have to rise up, all of you, because it is killing you.
It's not okay to live like this.
It's not okay to live in terror.
It's not okay to be lied to about you're the number one person in the world with healthcare.
Lie.
100% lie.
That you are the brave.
Lie.
You're the easiest to scare.
Why?
Because they control, they show you nothing of the outside world other than terrorism and natural disasters.
If the overwhelming majority of Americans don't have passports, other people in other countries make fun of us for that.
But it's not fair to do that.
Why would you go outside when everything we've ever shown you on the news is terrifying?
Like at the BBC, corrupt of course too, but they'll be like, the weather in Addis Ababa, the weather in Jakarta, just this little side segment.
So any little kid watching or anybody has a slight consciousness that there's a bigger world that we can all go be a part of.
Without nations, without borders, that we can visit it.
There is nothing like that in the U.S.
And the frequency, like the sound that they put on your news here, like it's like bullets in your body.
And then the TVs are enormous.
They dominate.
So this stuff is like really systematically being done.
It is thought out.
It is not accidental.
It is on purpose.
The next time we talk, I will tell you how I finagle my way into Langley, the CIA, Air Force Two, the War Room, the Pentagon.
Eh.
Kandahar.
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Kabul.
rose mcgowan
And the last note, if you ever go to war again, America, and I'm sure you will, do not feed them the food they fed me at Bagram before you go out to die.
That is not fair.
I'm gonna leave you on that cliffhanger.
But Larry Elder, fuck you Newsom.
Suck it.
dave rubin
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