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dave rubin
Oh! Hello there!
It's me, Dave, your friendly neighborhood YouTube host.
And according to the red light that I see a little up and to the right of me, I am live on the YouTube.
It's true, people.
I have been off the grid.
Without news, without information, without current events, without technology for 32 days.
That is right.
I got a bonus day.
There were 31 days in August, but I got a bonus day because we started this on a Saturday after I left in a blaze of glory.
On a Friday, as you all may remember, let's just recap some stuff for you.
In about 10 minutes from now, I'm bringing in Adam Carolla, who is going to get me caught up on everything.
I have literally no idea what's going on in the world.
I don't know what's going on on the COVID front.
I don't know if Joe Biden is still president.
I don't know anything.
It was actually quite easy to stay off the grid this year, and I'll sort of let you know why in a minute, and then just in these first 10 minutes, I wanna frame a little bit about how I'm gonna go ahead doing this show and doing everything that I do going forward, because I've had a month to think about it and think about how I wanna continue doing some things, change some things, some new thoughts that I had over the course of the month, et cetera, et cetera.
But just to quickly recap, I left in a complete blaze of glory because you may remember the day before I left the grid, I was banned by Twitter for misinformation about COVID because I said something about how eventually they're gonna want COVID mandates, you know, vaccine mandates, and that obviously the vaccines aren't working the way they were promised.
I was banned temporarily on Twitter for misinformation, but I fought back and I got a bunch of people to fight back on my behalf.
And basically the last thing that happened to me before I went off the grid for the next month
was that Twitter actually reversed their decision and sent me an email saying it was an error.
So not only did that happen the day that I left the grid, the last day of July,
but I also released the pre-sale for my new book, It hit number one on Amazon movers and shakers.
So I was feeling great.
I was just like, whoa, if you're ever gonna leave, like this is the way to do it.
Beat Twitter, you know, like have Twitter say that you're a liar and then get them to retract it.
And then, you know, get your book out there and hit number one on the Amazon charts.
I was feeling real good, okay?
And then what did we do?
Well, the next day, David and I hopped on a plane and we went to the rainforest in Mexico and were there for two weeks and all we did was eat fish, a lot of ceviche, a lot of fajitas, a significant amount of tequila, and rest on the beach, hang out in the rainforest with the animals, watch the storms at night, just completely decompress.
So before I get to any of the specifics on how I'm gonna do the show going forward and some of the new thoughts I have, I just wanna quickly, and I did a little Locals livestream earlier for our members over there, I just wanna say to you guys, to anyone watching this right now, to anyone that supports me in any way, that clicks these videos, you click like, you click share, whatever, if I'm part of your life in any little way, however insignificant or significant it is, I am beyond full of thanks right now.
Like, I really, really just had the best month of my life.
And I don't know that anyone on this planet Earth had a better month than I did.
Like, we ate right, we listened to great music, I exercised every day.
I'm truly, right now, I'm probably in the best shape I've been in about 15 years.
But I mean that not only physically, but mentally.
I mean it spiritually as well.
I just feel good.
I feel ready to fight.
I don't know what I've missed.
I suspect that when I bring on Kroll in a few minutes, he's not gonna have the long list of great things that happened.
That's not really the way the news works anymore.
Like, oh yes, we did actually stop critical race theory.
And oh yes, social justice is done.
And oh, the neo-racism that they're pushing on everyone and the destruction of all of our institutions.
It's all been reversed.
Everything's okay.
I know that's not coming, right?
God only knows what COVID, but I don't even think with COVID, it's not like he's gonna suddenly say it's wrapped up.
And I know a little bit about that because in the two weeks that I've been back here in LA, it's like everyone's masked up again.
So I can't imagine anything good is happening on that front, whether that's the reality.
of what's going on with COVID or just the media version of it or whatever people wanna believe or any of that stuff.
But I really just had an absolutely incredible month and I just genuinely thank you guys for that.
And I have to say that, you know, when I was away the first two weeks and we were in Mexico, you know
there were a lot of fans that were at the resort and people would come up, say hi to me
and everyone was respectful and everyone knows I'm off the grid so no one, you know
tried to talk politics with me or anything like that.
A couple people would be like, come on, Dave, you know you've got your phone, you've got your phone.
I'd pull out my pockets, I've done this every year.
No, I got nothing with me.
And people were great, and people always say the same thing.
I said this on the Locals livestream earlier.
They always now say the same thing to me, which is, Dave, you keep me sane.
And it's like, that's a really interesting thing for people to say to somebody.
Like, if you go up to a comedian, oh, you're the funniest guy in the world.
Or you go up to, you know, Jordan Peterson, and you go, oh, you helped me turn my life around.
You go up to somebody that's influenced you in some way, an actor that you love, oh, I love your movies.
But like, for people to come up to you and consistently say, you helped me stay sane, something to that effect, it's really...
I don't even know how to describe what that's like, in a way, because in some ways you've helped me stay sane, too, right?
Like, when I do this show, in some ways this is a mirror.
Like, I put some stuff back, I put some stuff out there, and then it sort of bounces off you guys and then comes back to me, and then I do it again tomorrow, and I try to figure out, you know, what's the best way to have people not go crazy?
I don't want people to go crazy.
I just had this great month, And that's really what I want to sort of incorporate in going forward.
So I have six quick things that I want to talk about.
Then I promise we're bringing in Carolla.
He'll get me caught up on everything.
But I had six sort of thoughts.
Over the last month that I thought were worth addressing right now before I know any of the news, just things that I've been thinking about.
So first off, I just want to say something on the COVID front.
Now, again, I suspect things are probably not going great right now because I'm seeing masks everywhere, even when people are walking dogs again.
But on the COVID front in a broad sense, I'm going to go out on a limb right now and say that no state failed.
Did any state in the United States fail, or did any country fail?
Is India still a country?
Did a little village in Chad, somewhere in Africa, fail because of COVID?
Has any hospital anywhere failed?
Now, I'm not saying COVID's not real and all of that stuff, but when you step away from the day-to-day minutiae about masks and mandates and lockdowns and everything else, like, were there any discussions in the last month about health?
I ate really well.
In this last month, I worked out every single day for the two weeks that we were in the rainforest.
We did the sauna, the steam room, and a cold plunge pool every day for about an hour.
I feel like a million bucks right now.
I suspect I probably have a little bit of a better immunity, natural immunity in my system right now as a healthy person than I did before I went off.
Was there any discussion on CNN, on MSNBC, any of these places about just taking care of yourself and health and natural immunity?
And if not, why not?
And how is it that no hospital, like I'm gonna just make a guess here, an educated guess, no hospital in the United States has failed yet?
Not one failure?
Like, not to say there aren't stresses, but like there's something about the narrative that just ain't right.
I don't know all the answers to all of that, those questions, why these things are, but that was one of the questions I was thinking about directly related to COVID.
The other thing that I was thinking a lot about, and I think over the next, However many months and years that I continue to do this show, you guys will help me figure this out, is what do we do about the liars?
You know, one of the things that I always talk about on the show is that we are just in this endless assault on truth that we just get lied to over and over again.
whether it's that this election bill is racist or that Brett Kavanaugh's a serial rapist
or the litany of things that they're always, you know, half the country is white supremacists,
whatever it is, it's like, we have to figure out what do we do about the liars.
And I don't know that just countering the lies is enough.
This is something I talk a lot about.
And the reason I was thinking about it particularly in the midst of this month is,
although I was not on my phone doing a lot of things, when I was doing cardio,
I was watching YouTube and I usually watch old sports games, but sometimes ads would pop up.
And because we're in the midst of this recall here in California, which I think is going well,
if I'm not mistaken, I have a little evidence on that.
There are all of these ads on.
on the YouTube videos that are filled with lies about Larry Elder.
That's how I know that the recall is going well, because they're now attacking Larry Elder.
They're all funded, by the way, by this guy, Reed Hastings, who is the CEO of Netflix.
And it's like, you just are willing to lie.
Basically imply that Larry Elder is some far-right nutbag and a white supremacist and everything else.
And it was just making me think, well, it's not that they just lie to us about COVID and all these things, but they're lying.
Yes, Larry Elder is a white supremacist.
What are we going to do about the liars?
That was something that I thought a lot about.
And that sort of brought me to the third thing, which is that because I talk about this war on truth a lot, what I've realized is we're really in a digital war.
It's basically the digital world versus the real world.
And that is sort of the war that we're facing right now.
The way misinformation can spread digitally and how that now affects real world things so that, you know, you can spread some misinformation or some Whatever you want to call it about COVID.
Next thing you know, you're shutting down real businesses and you're locking people at home, which then forces them to spend more of their time online.
And we have less interactions face-to-face and we do everything with masks.
Like, COVID and masks really had nothing to do with my life over the last month.
I had a great month.
I spoke to real people.
Actually, when we were at this resort, the guests did not have to wear masks, but the staff did.
And I made sure to say to every single staff member, every single day, that if you want to take your mask down when you're talking to me, that that's just fine with me.
And they wouldn't do it, right?
Because they want to keep their job.
And there were cameras around.
One guy actually did.
But at the end, we had these two people that were sort of working with us.
most of the time, and I got them to just quickly do it, just to smile.
But think about that, we had two people that were in effect, they were like our butlers, so you could just call them
if you wanted to get something.
And it was like, I didn't see these people for two weeks, their faces, I got them to smile at the end.
And that is leading to, I would say, a digital world versus real world war,
and we're gonna have to figure that out.
The digital stuff is now leaking into absolutely everything, and then they lock you down, and they keep you home,
they keep you addicted to these things, they can manipulate the algorithm
so they can make you think all sorts of things, and guess what, guys, when you let it go for a month,
it seems pretty clear, which sort of leads me to the next thing, which is also COVID related,
which is that COVID.
At this point, and again, no matter what I'm about to hear from Adam, and whatever has happened this month, and I'm not saying it doesn't exist, and actually I know somebody that got COVID last week, and they were sick for three days, and then they were better.
And by the way, I was at a family wedding in Jersey a few days ago, and it was great to see actual people, and some people wore masks and some people didn't.
I didn't.
Some people did.
It's okay.
Everyone made the decisions.
I don't think it was going to be a super spreader event.
Not as far as I know, nobody died.
But COVID is also not just a virus anymore in the traditional sense of virus, but I would also say it's a virus in the system for whenever things get too hot.
I thought a lot about this.
You know, for the last couple of years, we've been told that half of us are racists.
Half of us are white supremacists.
All of that nonsense.
And it started not to work anymore.
It was becoming a meme.
It was becoming thin.
It just wasn't working.
It's just not true.
And it wasn't working the way that it did work for a long time.
We were able to laugh at it.
The New York Times would call me a white supremacist, and then it was like a joke more than anything else.
But now COVID is that new thing that's in the system, where whenever it gets too hot, whatever it is, It's like they could be like, all right, we got the Delta variant.
We got the Gamma variant.
Now we gotta lock you down again.
We gotta shut down your business again.
So it's never really going away.
I mean, I think that's what I've come to.
Now, if I'm completely off on this, I suppose it's possible.
Maybe I'm completely off.
I'm gonna talk to Adam in two minutes and he's gonna tell me COVID is over.
But I suspect I am not wrong on that.
And I think I have, you know, just one or two more things for ya.
This is an idea that I thought a lot about.
Before I went off the grid, and it's something that I've been talking about for about a year, but it really seems now obvious to me.
The old world isn't coming back.
And I think we really have to accept that.
Like, the old world, that world of, say, January 2020, right before COVID, which was pretty good, it ain't coming back.
Like, the whole thing has changed.
And look how quickly the entire world changed.
Does your life, does the way you Look at the world.
Does it all feel way different than it did then?
Do things seem better or worse?
Is your life better or worse?
Are you personally better or worse?
Are your relationships better or worse?
Like, all of these things, it's just not coming back.
And I think it's important for us to figure out which pieces of that old world we want to take with us to the new world.
Because the new world's coming whether we like it or not.
And I think we really have to figure that out.
And that brings me to the last thing that I was thinking about, and then I'll just say one other thing personally and then bring on Adam, which is that I think probably, and I see no way around this at this point, we kind of are in a cold civil war at this point, ideologically.
Like, there are a set of people that want to burn it down that have said that they don't want to negotiate, like, that this is the way the world is and America is evil and Western values are evil, capitalism, all of these things.
And then there's these other people who just want to kind of live and let live and understand that the human experience is filled with inconsistencies and a constant battle to better ourselves, but that there's nothing really perfect.
Those things kind of can't exist together, right?
Like if one set of people is saying, oh, you know, let's see what we can do and fix on the margins and expand freedoms and things are kind of messy and we can agree to disagree.
But then this other sort of cult-like ideology is like, no, it's our way.
Or the highway, or our way, or we're gonna destroy your cities, or our way, or we're gonna take all your stuff.
It's like, that doesn't really work.
And, you know, the idea that you'd have liberals versus conservatives, people who wanna change things on the margins, versus just people who want things to stay the same, it's like, all right, that tension is good, and sometimes it leans this way, and sometimes it leans this way.
But now we're into something else.
And because I've come to that belief, I really wanna focus on building things.
That's what I've done with locals.
I want to find more of you that are building your own businesses, that are building new institutions, and I want to help you however I can.
And that's really where a lot of my energy is.
So last thing before I bring in Corolla.
Look, I did not have this thing on me.
Basically, for the month.
I had to take a couple phone calls and my mom's dog died.
Charlie, little shout out to Charlie.
Like, I did hear a couple things related to that.
But, you know, I was not in the constant war.
I was not in this endless doom scrolling of Twitter and what did these people say?
And even, like, I really didn't think about AOC for a month, which truly is a joy.
I didn't think about any of that stuff.
I just enjoyed myself.
Most days, at the end of the day, David and I, we got a big green egg, we smoked an incredible amount of briskets and tri-tips and tomahawks, and we ate great.
Just everything we ate was great and took care of ourselves.
And most nights, when my head hit the pillow, I would say to him, you know, I had a great day today.
What a great day it was today.
And that is the, I believe that all of us can have that.
Maybe you can't have it for a month so consistently, and I thank all of you guys for letting me do this crazy thing that I've now done for five years.
But that's the feeling that I want to go forward.
Like, how do we balance being engaged people, being part of this new digital world that is here, whether we like it or not, versus, or I should say, while at the same time, Being happy, being real people in a real world with people, and dealing with that tension.
So that being said, I'm here, I'm open, I'm now gonna hear from Adam Carolla, who's gonna get me caught up to speed on the world, assuming it still exists, and let's see what I missed.
I guess I'm a little, it's not nervous, but I'm a little trepidatious.
Let's say, Carolla, are you there?
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I am.
dave rubin
Corolla, that was my little Dave Rubin oration to begin this thing.
I'm feeling pretty good about life.
You know I make a good steak normally, but I ate well, I listened to music, I worked out.
I'm feeling good, man.
I sense you might wreck the whole thing here.
adam carolla
Yeah, well, I'm with you on your philosophy, and I do tell people all the time that you just held your phone up to show the audience.
I couldn't hold my phone up because I don't have my phone In the studio.
So, for little tips for sanity is, I never bring my phone in my studio.
Because I'm just, there's nothing I can do with it while I'm in here.
It's just a distraction.
And, you know, the rule is, I'm in the studio hours a day and there's never a phone in here.
So, it's all gonna have to wait.
And if you sort of make some of those rules for yourself, it's a better life.
dave rubin
I'm telling you, man, just not having my phone in the morning, you know, I try not to bring the phone in the bedroom even normally when I'm not off the grid, but just knowing that I'm waking up, I don't know what time it is, and I'm not gonna just see what someone said about me on Twitter as the first thing in the morning, and it's not gonna be the thing I end with, like, just that alone is a game changer.
adam carolla
Yeah, to answer your question, which is, you know, why isn't the media talking about diet and exercise and Uh, you know, body mass index and, you know, obesity and all these things, which is interesting that, you know, other than age, the second most important part of not being killed by COVID is obesity.
And that they've never, they never bring up age or obesity, by the way.
So obviously what it is with diet, exercise supplements, and the things you've been speaking about in, and therapeutics, which they just poo poo.
If they talked about diet and exercise, that would give you control.
Meaning, you're in control over what you put in your mouth, you're controlled over how long you run on the treadmill, if at all.
That gives you control.
They don't want to give you any control.
They want all the control.
So anything that has to do with you and your own control, being the captain of your own ship, they never talk about, and they don't want to relinquish a second of it to you.
dave rubin
So are you saying I'm right that not one hospital failed while I was gone, and no country failed, a little village somewhere in Africa that maybe doesn't have the protections that we have here in Los Angeles?
None of that happened?
I'm right?
adam carolla
Well, every time I turn on CNN, they're always talking about the ICUs bursting at the seams, but they never break.
You know what I mean?
They just, they're somehow about to burst, but they never burst.
And if you talk to Dr. Drew about it, when they give you a lot of those are, you know, our hospitals are filled to capacity.
They're always talking about the county hospitals.
There's hundreds of private hospitals and those aren't filled to capacity.
So they leave that part out.
So essentially saying, you know, County USC is filled, but not St.
Joseph's up the street or Cedars down the street.
So be careful when you hear them talk about who's bursting at the seam.
dave rubin
All right, well, I don't wanna lead you.
So if you don't wanna start with COVID, you can tell me absolutely everything.
And truly, I know nothing, nothing that has happened.
adam carolla
Well, as long as we're on COVID, well, I'll tell you what, we'll circle back to COVID.
We'll start with the Taliban invaded Afghanistan, and Biden withdrew the troops, and the airport was overrun, and there's incredible video, and we'll show it in a few minutes.
There's incredible video of folks clinging to the aircraft and clinging to the landing gear, literally, you know, last helicopter out of Hanoi.
It has that, it's reminiscent of that.
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So when Biden- Are people escaping?
adam carolla
This is, sorry, Afghani refugees hanging onto our planes trying to get out of there because the Taliban overran the, so basically, The Taliban was in charge of security at the airport, essentially.
The perimeter.
The entire place was overrun by Taliban, and we had Americans trying to get out of there, and, you know, interpreters, and folks that were friendly to us during the last 20 years of that skirmish.
And it was a total bleep show, and so we actually had to send troops back into Afghanistan to go to that airport
and try to extract Americans and folks that were considered friendly to us.
Although we're of course not successful in getting everyone out.
dave rubin
So we got some people out and did you say now we're taking our troops out?
Like, is that, is it done?
I mean, if the idea here- They're done.
So we're officially leaving Afghanistan.
Is that, there were some rumblings about that sort of at the end of July.
I mean, I'm, you know, it's the longest war in American history.
I'm completely fine with ending that war.
adam carolla
Yeah, so what happened was, in terms of the narrative, is I think most, most all Democrats and many Republicans say, Let's get out of Afghanistan.
Why do we need to keep this going?
Now, if you listen to guys like Ben Shapiro, they'll say, we had 2,500 troops there and nobody had died in a year and a half.
So is that really an endless war?
And he makes a good point.
Like, we have troops stationed in, you know, Japan and Germany.
We have troops around the world.
They're not involved with an endless war.
They're just there, you know?
And so to kind of paint it as, you know, not another American killed or the sons and daughters are going over there and never coming back.
It's not totally accurate because in the last, you know, in the last, uh, seven years they lost, you know, 10 people.
And, you know, we always have to say it's all, it's always a tragedy.
Anyone lost, you know, blah, blah, blah understood.
But if you have no, Fatalities in the last year and a half.
Is that an endless war?
dave rubin
Right.
So what's, what's the main media narrative on this?
Is it that it was somehow a failure of the Biden administration that we lost this airfield and had to leave?
And I mean, I got to see the video here, obviously, but like, is that what the narrative is or is the narrative like, oh, Biden is doing what Trump never did or something like that?
adam carolla
Well, the media is, has a couple of stratus to it.
So the first is Biden is pulling everyone out.
Good for him.
Second one was it turned into such a cluster F that even CNN couldn't ignore it.
You know what I mean?
You can't ignore... I should run the video for you, but you can't ignore video of people clinging to to the landing gear of a C-130 aircraft.
dave rubin
Yeah, wait, real quick though, before we throw to the video.
So that's interesting though, was, did they basically try to ignore it at first, the mainstream media?
Cause it was going to make the administration look bad like that, like it was going around Twitter and the rest of it.
And then eventually they just couldn't ignore it anymore.
adam carolla
No, they didn't do what they normally do, which is ignore it for as long as they can because it happened so quickly and literally overnight.
And there was so much dramatic footage coming from that region that even CNN couldn't ignore it.
They all had to jump into it.
They then kind of corrected their narrative.
And I'll explain that momentarily.
But I think first we should take a look at the video of the Kabul airport and the tarmac and people trying to flee.
So we'll show that.
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Taliban fighters took control of the capital less than 20 years after U.S.
forces overthrew their government.
Afghanistan's president fled the country, and much of the population is in hiding, afraid of what's next.
With scenes like this, and unable to get on a flight, we decided to stay.
Taliban fighters soon declared an end to the war from the comfort of the presidential palace,
just hours after strolling into Kabul, just 11 days after launching an offensive
overwhelming U.S.-trained Afghan forces in cities across Afghanistan.
adam carolla
So, there's dramatic footage of people falling off as it climbs to altitude, obviously, to
their death.
So it was so dramatic that CNN couldn't ignore it.
And everyone then agreed that, you know, this was a total shit show.
And that it was Biden's, he botched it.
He botched it.
dave rubin
Wait, am I understanding this correctly?
So the Taliban is now like basically officially in charge of Afghanistan again?
adam carolla
Yes.
dave rubin
As if we just erased 20 years.
adam carolla
Yes, except for now Taliban is sort of the new government there.
We're now dealing with the Taliban as if we're dealing with France and the leaders of, you know, Macron or something like that.
So, and now, We hope that ISIS has reemerged as well.
And so now we're trying to work with the Taliban to keep ISIS at bay, but there's much more to catch you up on, so.
dave rubin
Okay, good start.
So a country fell basically, and it sounds like another war is brewing.
Like a pause on a war with a new war on the way.
adam carolla
It essentially fell overnight.
So then Biden, You know, first he did the damage repair thing and the generals all got out there and they said, nobody saw this coming.
Nobody could have anticipated.
We thought we had six months to a year.
We didn't know we had 48 hours.
And you know, there were no, there was no way to anticipate this.
So says all the generals and all the experts.
Now, my, my thing is I like to play a game called stupid or liar.
You're either lying or you're completely unqualified to do your job.
But then we arranged an airlift to go back to get all the folks, or as many folks as we could, Americans and people with dual passports and dual citizenship and folks that were friendly to us, interpreters, things of that nature, who would be killed by the Taliban, obviously.
We arranged an agreement with the Taliban Which is, let us come back.
And Biden stupidly said, our hard out is August 31st.
Which was not enough time to get everyone out.
dave rubin
Right.
adam carolla
Biden brought that up.
I don't know why.
The point is, is the Taliban said- Wait, was that just a Biden gaffe?
dave rubin
Or was that just like an actual policy?
Or was that just one of Joe's accidental, Oh, I shouldn't have said that.
I'm going to get in trouble.
adam carolla
It's unclear why Biden gave a hard out date, which is August 31st, but he did.
dave rubin
And then... So that was yesterday.
I mean, is that where we're at right now?
adam carolla
Yes, that's where we're at.
And almost instantly, everyone said, we need more time.
Go back to the Taliban and tell them we need more time than the 31st of August.
And the Taliban said, no deal.
You said that's the hard out.
That's the hard out.
So somehow we couldn't go back and extend that with the Taliban.
dave rubin
Did we get other people out?
When did this all happen?
Was this at the beginning of the month or has this been going on just for a couple of days or is this?
adam carolla
This has gone on for the last week and a half, essentially, maybe two weeks.
So we then had this giant airlift, essentially, where we were getting private airlines involved or you know commercial airlines involved beyond the military and other folks were coming out of the woodwork trying to help it became just this huge withdrawal and the the conceit was we're going to get as many people out by the 31st and of course gensaki and company in the days leading up to this we're saying we're going to get all the americans out but of course everyone knew that was sort of mathematically impossible
Because there was a lot of people that were stranded outside of the airport, and they couldn't make their way to the airport because the Taliban had set up checkpoints everywhere and was in charge of security.
Now, I should step back a couple of days.
With about five or six days left, maybe a week to withdraw everyone for the August 31st deadline, There was a suicide bomber who made his way through the Taliban checkpoint, blew himself up somewhere outside of the airport, and killed 13 American servicemen and women.
So that then, of course, outraged everyone because those were the people, those 13 had left and then had to be sent back because it turned into such a cluster act.
And obviously, you could imagine being the parent of one of those young Marines who came back from Afghanistan and then turned around and went back.
Now, I don't know, honestly, if it's the same Marine who left, turned around and went back, or a new Marine, but either way, we pulled out of Afghanistan, and the next thing you know, your 23-year-old son is being deployed back to Afghanistan to clean up the mess and never comes back.
dave rubin
So, I mean, that's horrible.
There's nothing I can add to that, obviously.
But, so where do we sort of stand just in narrative right now?
Is everyone on every side saying this is as much of a disaster as it sort of sounds like to me?
Or are they trying to frame it as like, oh, Joe's doing the right thing here because, you know, we're gonna leave and it's gonna be messy no matter what.
adam carolla
There's a couple narratives.
One is, is the White House shifted to This is the biggest, most successful airlift in history.
So they started focusing on how successful.
Well, it's essentially you run your own ship into the Rocky Shoals and then you announce this is the greatest lifeboat departure ever in a ship.
And it's sort of like, yeah, I get it.
We are able to get Tens of thousands of people out in a short period of time.
It was a very large and successful airlift, but obviously the reason we needed to do the airlift is because Biden botched the withdrawal, the pullout.
Right.
dave rubin
An awful lot of people were rescued after the Titanic, I think is the point.
adam carolla
That's kind of how they couched it.
Now, the other narrative, and it's an interesting one, Which is, uh, you've probably felt it.
It's an argument that comes from the left all the time.
All the folks on Fox News and, and many on CNN and MSNBC and mainstream media were saying, you totally screwed up this pullout of Afghanistan.
This is a, this is as big an F up as you've seen on the world stage and in many, many years.
And of course, You'll see this a lot when you argue with people on the left.
They kept saying, we were in Afghanistan for 20 years.
It was an endless war.
It was time to stop the endless war.
Don't you want to stop the endless war?
And which was not the subject.
The people are going, yes, we want to stop the endless war.
You screwed up the stopping of the endless war.
You left them.
And by the way, billions of dollars of equipment.
So they have Apache helicopters, they have aircraft, they have 365,000 machine guns and, you know, grenades, night vision goggles, like all our high-end military equipment or much of it was left behind.
dave rubin
So basically the Taliban has- So basically we armed, now we fully armed them too because we just had to cut and run pretty much in this successful escape.
unidentified
Right.
adam carolla
We left behind, I think it was Bagram Air, one of their airport.
The other sort of disaster of it is, And forgive me because I don't know the names of all the, all the airports over there, but we had a big airport that we abandoned.
So we completely abandoned the big airport and we moved into the little airport and we're trying to conduct all this from the little airport.
It's essentially saying, if you live in Los Angeles, we abandoned LAX, but we went to Burbank or Van Nuys.
And now we're trying to conduct this out of that.
And obviously it's not the same facility.
And as we abandoned the airport, so did we with the Apache helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft and machine guns and a lot of technology as well.
Humvees, armored cars, I mean everything.
We just left it.
dave rubin
So putting aside the people we left behind and what you're saying is billions of dollars worth of equipment that can now be used to do all sorts of awful things, the narrative sort of is that this is kind of good because it had to come to an end, which sort of is like Iraq a couple of years ago.
Remember when we left Iraq, they had just had democratic elections.
Things were looking pretty good.
Then we left and the whole place fell again.
So it just sort of sounds like rinse and repeat.
It's the same thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam carolla
And to further that narrative, The Biden administration and then all the talking heads on CNN were like, we had to leave the way we left because Trump cut a bad deal with the Taliban.
And so we were just honoring the Trump deal.
So Trump basically made this deal.
We were honoring it and we had no choice.
Of course, anyone who has a functioning frontal lobe would say, you abandon every other Trump deal.
You know, we had deals.
We had a lot of stuff going on at the southern border.
We had pipelines.
We had many other deals that you immediately scrapped the second you got into office.
dave rubin
Right.
adam carolla
Since when can't you scrap a Trump deal?
dave rubin
You know what's interesting to me is one of the things I kept thinking about for the month is that I knew I was gonna come back and you were gonna tell me you know some stuff and it was it's like it's not exactly the stuff that's interesting it's more how the media deals with it that's interesting to me.
Like it sounds to me that if this exact same scenario that you're telling me about right now happened under Trump They would be telling you, and it would be across mainstream media, this is the biggest foreign policy blunder of all time, and this is an impeachable offense, and this is complete incompetence, and the whole thing.
So that part, you know, I'm not diminishing the human cost and everything, but just sort of my visceral reaction to all of this is how does the media spin it is now more interesting to me in a way than what actually happened.
adam carolla
Well, what the media does is they, you can't ignore The calamity part of it, you know what I mean?
How could you ignore footage of people clinging to an aircraft?
You know, so they can't ignore it.
So they sort of focus on the human part of it, which is these are refugees.
These are interpreters.
These people have families.
They kind of separate it from Biden a little bit and focus, not how did we get to people clinging to aircraft, but who are these people?
And then they gave Biden a fair bit of flack.
Because it's unavoidable.
It's like literally you had to do it.
So I think CNN sort of held their nose for three or four news days and said some disparaging things about Biden and the pullout.
But it was always laced with this was Trump's doing.
You know, this was Trump's plan.
It was not avoidable.
And then it turned into what a miraculous achievement The airlift was.
dave rubin
God, it's gymnastics.
It really is.
And Trump is gonna be, you know, I know we'll get to the COVID stuff, but like, it's just a thing in the system forever.
When we need the Trump card to be pulled out to blame somebody for something, or say the exact opposite that we would have said if it was our guy, then you pull out Trump.
When something gets too hot, you pull out COVID.
That just seems so obvious to me after stepping away for a little bit.
adam carolla
Yeah, and then as far as, you know, CNN goes, immediately kind of on the heels of this was a big category whatever hurricane that blew into New Orleans.
And so they immediately were able to shift all of their focus on to, you know, flooding and power outages and all that.
So they were able to get off that whole Afghanistan story.
dave rubin
Did Anderson Cooper get to stand in a foot of water and pretend that he was drowning?
Did they get that far yet?
adam carolla
He's so brazen, he did it in studio this year.
He actually stood in a tin of water.
Yeah.
Yeah.
dave rubin
Sounds like a freaking disaster.
adam carolla
Okay.
It, it is.
But again, the Biden administration keeps shifting it back to, didn't you want to end this endless war?
And people keep saying, that's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about how we pulled out.
dave rubin
Wait, and just to be clear though, so this August 31st thing that you mentioned, that the Taliban saying, we're done.
So are we officially saying that we're not going in anymore and helping anybody or now, or, you know, I'm sure we're doing something on the DL, but like, where is that at now?
adam carolla
Um, you know what the Jen Psaki and, and others keep saying is, is, you know, it started off as we're not going to leave any Americans behind.
Then it went to, well, there are some Americans left behind.
And then there's this weird lessening things where they go, they had dual citizenship, which is sort of implying, well, they're not quite as important as Americans, you know, that because they're sort of dual.
And then there's the, we don't know how many are left behind, but we think it's, you know, about 200, but it's, you know, it's not that many.
So they're kind of trying to tamp it down a little.
And then there's a little bit of, Uh, blame, shame, which is, you know, those are people who didn't want to, you know, we reached out to everyone and told them we were leaving.
You know, I don't know why they didn't go to the airport, but I'm sure there were plenty of those people.
Yeah.
Right.
Obviously you could never run that gauntlet through the Taliban from wherever you were to, to the airport once you got caught outside of the airport.
And then there is the, We're going to do everything we can to get those people back, except for we don't have a presence there, and the Taliban is in charge.
And then there's a lot of, you know, a lot of this, which we always do, which is, if the Taliban wants to join the rest of the world on the world stage, then they will, you know, cooperate, but they don't want to do that.
They're the Taliban.
dave rubin
Right, and there's probably, you sort of referenced this before, but like the translators and all of the Afghanis who've been working with us, there's probably, there could be hundreds of thousands of people that one way or another, the Taliban is now gonna just take out.
And it's like, but I get it.
I get the inclination of like, it was gonna be messy no matter what.
You pick a date to announce you're leaving and it's gonna be messy.
You do a slow withdrawal, it's gonna be messy.
And maybe that's why you can't have 20 year wars.
adam carolla
Well, I think the rub is, The military left before many citizens did so I think the way it should have been conducted is remove all the civilians and then remove all the military equipment and then remove the military troops and get out.
I am not by any means an expert on this stuff but That makes sense to me and anyone who's over 10 years old.
dave rubin
Right, the people hanging onto planes, leave all our shit version, probably not the best one.
adam carolla
Right.
dave rubin
I know I've been a little out of the loop, but you know.
adam carolla
Yeah, so that's where we're at with Afghanistan.
And then also there's this kind of thing where now we're gonna use diplomacy to pressure the Taliban to do the right thing, which historically, I don't think we have a very high batting average with.
dave rubin
Yeah.
That doesn't sound like it's going to work.
adam carolla
All right.
You want the next story?
dave rubin
Next story.
Let's go.
All right.
So one messy war situation.
Okay.
I'm doing okay so far.
adam carolla
COVID-19 hysteria continues.
Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine gets full approval.
That's something you probably hadn't heard of.
FBA grants full approval to Pfizer and There's basically, you know, vaccine passports.
They're basically, they're in.
Like, so a couple of things.
By the way, you should know today, this morning, less than an hour before I came here, I got a call from my son who's in the 10th grade and I had to go pick him up at school and bring him home because some classmate somewhere had COVID.
And they're sending anyone home that shared the same class with that kid.
dave rubin
It's never ending, man.
That's what I said before I brought you on.
I'm telling you, whatever about you're about to tell me, and the passport thing is a disaster, if that's right, or if that's true, but like, this thing is never ending.
We're basically going to split.
This is what I really believe at this point.
I think there's many reasons for it, but on the COVID front, we're going to basically split into two countries.
Where it's gonna be a certain amount of people are always going to be masked, always going to be getting booster shots, never going out, always gonna be locked down, dependent on government.
And then another bunch of people are just gonna try their best to live their lives.
But there's almost no bridging that gap.
So wait, we have passports, is that correct now?
adam carolla
Well, New York is requiring you to show proof of vaccination to enter bars and restaurants and gyms and things of that nature.
That's implemented.
It's a lot of semantics, because you think about it, you know, you have Biden going, there's not gonna be vaccine passports, you know, three months ago.
Well, he's not gonna implement vaccine passports, but if you go to any, if you go to Stanford, Stanford's not gonna let you in unless you show them a proof of vaccination.
If you go to Amherst, Dr. Drew's alma mater, Uh, you can't come back unless you're vaccinated.
They want double masking indoor.
And so I think the game is the federal government is going, we're not requiring anything.
No, you're not requiring anything.
You'll leave that to Stanford and Amherst and Delta airlines and every big gym chain and every federal building or sorry, every governmental building.
If you're in a teacher's union or truck drivers, you'll just leave that to them.
So you have de facto, vaccine passports without the federal government ever mandating it.
dave rubin
I mean, that's exactly the same thing.
One of the last things that happened before I left was that story broke about how the government is flagging posts about misinformation for Facebook.
So it's not the government censoring you, it's Facebook censoring you, and they're a private company.
I mean, it's the exact same thing.
adam carolla
Well, it's the teachers unions that are mandating protocol to the CDC.
You know, in a way, it's sort of the opposite.
It's like, where is that line between Facebook and the government, and where's that line between teachers unions and the CDC?
And the answer is there is no line.
There's just an agenda.
dave rubin
You know, actually, I did have to take one phone call about halfway through August because I was doing an event in New York City, a big tech debate.
I was going to debate, you know, government involvement in big tech in November.
And they told us that everyone was going to be required to be vaccinated to be at the event.
So my guys, you know, we had like an emergency line that they could reach out to me if something really had to be dealt with on a timely basis.
And basically I said to them, I'm not going to do an event in New York City then.
It's not, I'm not going to speak at an event where people are forced to say whether they're vaccinated or not.
If you want to be vaccinated, it's up to you.
And if you don't want to be, and if you want to wear masks and all those things, but how can I go to a place where I'm going to speak and demand that everyone that is in that audience has to be vaccinated?
Insane.
So I think we're trying to move the venue.
That was the last I heard.
adam carolla
Well, also something that's coming recently, obviously, is Israel is a number of months ahead of us with the vaccinations, so we get good data out of Israel.
And Israel just today or yesterday or very recently mandated a third vaccine, a booster, meaning you're not fully vaccinated until you've had your third vaccination, your booster.
So obviously it went from Vaccinated to you're not vaccinated unless you have your booster.
Now, according to everything I've heard and everyone I've spoken to, there is no end to the booster in terms of the vaccinations.
There is literally just getting infected with COVID, getting antibodies and herd immunity, but we're not going to do it with vaccinations.
And Israel, who's amongst the most vaccinated, is being hit Very hard right now with COVID.
dave rubin
So- So Adam, I don't wanna get us booted from YouTube on my day back, but is it fair to say, which is exactly what I said on Twitter that got me suspended for misinformation until they reversed it the day before I left.
Is it fair to say that the vaccines are not working as promised?
I mean, there's video of Joe Biden and what, that was May or so, saying if you're vaccinated, you can take off your mask and you can go live your life normally.
So that, was that misinformation then or?
adam carolla
Well, uh, the, the mass thing is, is a, is a whole nother kettle of fish we can get into as well.
I would say the vaccines as promised are not delivering and, and maybe it's an oversimplification of most Americans with vaccines, you know, but we sort of looked at it as you get your shot, you can no longer get COVID take off your mask, go eat at a crowded indoor restaurant.
Then it turned into you can get back.
That was the promise.
And that was not delivered.
Now, who knows what they knew when they knew it?
You know, there's certain parts of this, again, stupid or liar.
Like, I never know.
Do they not know this or they know it and they're withholding it?
I assume that here's essentially how the government works, which I've learned from being around long enough.
You know, I used to pass a billboard in Hollywood that said 53,000 Americans die of secondhand smoke every year.
I used to talk to Dr. Drew about it all the time.
I've never heard of anyone dying of secondhand smoke.
Have you ever heard of a celebrity that died?
You know, Cary Grant dies at 74 of secondhand smoke.
I've never, I don't know anyone.
I've never heard of anyone.
And Dr. Drew goes, Oh, it does.
It's not a thing.
It's not a thing.
And then he pulled an article from JAMA once and he said, It was an article years later because he'd heard me complain about it so much that they, they thought as many as three people died of secondhand smoke like the year before.
So what's, what are they doing?
Well, they're lying, but they're lying like a parent lies to a child.
You know, finish your vegetables and do your homework or the boogeyman will get you.
So that's what they do.
Now you could say to a parent, you're lying to your child.
And they're like, that's all right.
I want him to eat the vegetables.
I want him to do the homework.
That's essentially the relationship we're now having with vouching the government.
And it goes back.
It goes back to AIDS.
I've been around long enough.
I remember the whole AIDS thing.
It was an equal opportunity killer.
A heterosexual couple or gay couple was all, was all the same.
Everyone needed to wear a condom.
Everyone, it could come out, it could get anyone.
And it was like, that was a lie.
And it was a lie they told to try to get everyone to put a condom on.
That's what that, There's a rich history of the government doing this.
dave rubin
So wait, where are we with COVID right now?
Is my sense, I just have a gut feeling just from walking around LA for the last two weeks that people are sort of more paranoid than usual.
Cause there was that, remember that little four day window we had here in LA where it was like, oh, people are sort of acting normal again.
A woman smiled at me while walking the dog.
I couldn't believe it.
Like, is it worse now or better?
Or just no one knows.
Cause it's impossible to believe any of this nonsense.
adam carolla
Well, there's an uptick because of the Delta variant.
It's more contagious.
Still doesn't do anything to kids, although they try to weave the kids in constantly into the mix, because that's the way you scare the moms, and then the moms control everything.
dave rubin
Right, and now kids over two years old are wearing masks on planes?
I mean, that was the one that I heard when I came back from Jersey a couple days ago.
I had a family wedding, came back, and it was, if you're over two years old, you have to wear a mask on a plane.
adam carolla
Yeah, so there's an uptick.
There's an uptick in cases.
There's an uptick in deaths.
The Delta seems to be more transmissible, and the vaccine doesn't seem to prevent you from getting the Delta variant, but it apparently stops the severity of it.
So what they're saying is, is everyone who's hospitalized, or most who are hospitalized, are unvaccinated.
So you can get it, You're just not going to be impacted by it.
And here's another governmental lie or stupid or liar or whatever.
Remember about four or five months ago when they're really kicking the whole vaccinate, you know, really pushing, beating the vaccination drum really hard.
A lot of people, a lot of voices, a lot of folks that we listened to on our side of the aisle were saying, Yeah, but if you had COVID, then you're fine.
You don't need to get vaccinated.
And guys like heads of the CDC and Rochelle Walensky and Fauci and all the experts were saying, no, no, you still need to be vaccinated.
You still need to be vaccinated.
And it's like, why do you need to be vaccinated if you've had it already?
Well, now, of course, the science has come in and I think you're 13 times more suited To not be infected by COVID if, in fact, you had COVID versus the vaccination.
So it was the exact opposite of what they're saying.
Folks that we talked to and listened to were saying, why should I get vaccinated if I've already been infected with COVID and I have natural immunity to it?
Fauci and Rochelle Walensky were going, well, we don't know if you have that or not.
It's unclear.
The data's not in.
We don't know.
So you need to be vaccinated.
A lot of those people, like Dr. Drew, who has a high T cell count or whatever the biology is of it, was forced to get vaccinated because he wanted to get on an airplane and go out of the country.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam carolla
He wanted to go on a cruise.
He wanted to go to New York.
He wanted to do the, you know, the event that you spoke of that you've scrapped and moved.
So again, it's, it's, it's, it's, it is a vaccine mandate because Dr. Drew as an example, right.
unidentified
Right.
adam carolla
Got COVID.
It hit him hard.
And he, because of his background and his training and his relationships in that community, have been tested constantly to see what his natural antibodies were, and they're off the charts.
But he was forced to get vaccinated, which now they're finding out might be a little bit dangerous for folks that have already had it, or more so.
I don't want to get pulled off YouTube, but statistically, there is Some negative side effects to the vaccine for a very small percentage of people.
But if you have natural immunity...
Why even chance that small percent?
It's basically what we think.
dave rubin
Yeah we just have a bigger problem here which is just as you're telling me this and you know you're on my short list of people that that I trust to like analyze things in some roughly decent way it's like it's just impossible to believe any of the stuff that gets out there because even this idea that you just said about oh well if you're vaccinated then we know you're getting a sort of less severe version of COVID or something like that it's like Is there studies on that?
How would we know if people are getting hit less hard physically when they get COVID?
I also, right before I mentioned this on the show, right before I left the grid, But I have a friend here who's in the medical field, I don't wanna say specifically, but someone that I completely trust, and I know this is just personal info, but he told me that he knew nine people, this is like July 29th or 30th, knew nine people in LA with COVID at that time, and they all were vaccinated, and he didn't know anyone that wasn't vaccinated.
Again, I'm not here to say don't get vaccinated, I'm not here to say don't, it's like, you do whatever you wanna do, but like, it's just such, this thing, it's this secondary virus in the system, that seems so obvious to me.
The information war around COVID is to me at this point more dangerous than COVID.
adam carolla
Well, I think here's the problem with guys like you and I, and then the powers that be.
To circle back, they say that the people who are hospitalized are the unvaccinated or the majority of them are unvaccinated.
That's their data for the severity of it versus vaccinated versus unvaccinated.
But to your point, they keep, they basically are doing what the airline does when there's a two hour delay.
They give it to you in 20 minute increments, right?
If there's ever a flight delay, they go, it's a 20 minute flight delay.
And you go, Oh, I can handle 20 minutes.
I'll go to Starbucks.
And then, 19 minutes later, they go, uh, it's going to be another 20 minutes.
And eventually they'll get to three hours, but they'll, they do it incrementally.
So what they do is they say, uh, the vaccine's going to, we'll be able to go back to normal when the vaccine comes, then the vaccine comes, then they go, okay, you can be vaccinated, but you still have to wear your mask.
Then they go, uh, then you go, but masks aren't effective.
And they go, doesn't matter where the mask anyway, get vaccinated.
And then they go, you can get vaccinated.
But oh yes, you can still get infected with COVID with the vaccination.
And then they go, but if you get infected with COVID, it's not going to be severe.
Well, now we have to wait for the next piece of information that...
that counters what they just said.
And the problem is, is we're noticing a pattern.
dave rubin
It's just the slow descent to hell that we're all on.
I was thinking a lot about that over this month, that it's like every day we just wake up with some new information or some conflicting information and we all just kind of have to play ball with it because we don't know what else to do.
You know, there was that video, I'm sure you saw it, right at the end of July that went viral.
It was about this two minute video of Fauci flipping on everything.
You know, one minute he says masks, Then he says, don't wear masks because you touch your face more and they don't really work.
And then he says, double mask.
And then he says, oh, this type of mask doesn't work.
And this one does.
And it's like, we're just average people trying to live our lives.
Everyone watching this is just some person that has to work a job and live with some people and try to get by.
They can't analyze this nonsense from these, I would say, intentionally conflicting people at this point.
adam carolla
The head of the CDC, Rochelle Walensky.
dave rubin
Oh, she's a piece of work.
She's a piece of work.
When she said we have, what did she say that a couple months back?
It was like, I have to scare you, but I don't want to do it.
Something like that.
adam carolla
She said a few things.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam carolla
First off, she came out and said, it's safe for kids to go back to school.
And then, uh, somebody from the teacher's unions got hold of her.
And then she explained that she wasn't speaking in her official capacity.
Even though she was standing in front of a CDC step and repeat, and she's the head of the CDC.
She was just drunk at a party and babbling.
dave rubin
Okay, so- But Adam, just explain something to me.
Your son, in his class, or just any, has there been one instance in the United States in the last year and a half that we've been playing this game?
Remember, it was two weeks to flatten the curve.
Has there been one instance of a third grade class where one kid got it, then every single kid got it, and all the kids died?
Is there one instance of that?
Same thing as the hospitals.
Is there any instances of any of this stuff?
No, obviously I'm going to get shot at the end of this show.
I know I'm on the list.
adam carolla
If an 11 year old died, a healthy 11 year old died.
And let's just, I'll, I'll put it to you this way.
If there was one fourth grade class and two 11 year olds died in that same class, CNN would be talking about it for the next 2,000 years.
So that's how you know this didn't happen.
dave rubin
Because if it did- Not to say that kids haven't got sick and then they get better.
That's what happens when you get sick.
adam carolla
Right.
So here's the story of COVID.
Like I'm going to give you my 30,000 foot view of COVID.
Forget about science and numbers and data and biology.
I'll just give it to you.
The whole thing started, and it killed old people.
COVID kills old people.
There was a study out of Stanford today, and the numbers are so astronomical that it's hard to accurately say, but from zero to 19, if you get infected with COVID, you have a 99.997 chance of survival.
So that doesn't exist.
I've always said, if you were making a movie about a pandemic, would this work?
Nobody, people's faces would be melting in the fifth grade.
That's how, okay.
So here's my view of COVID.
First things first.
I'm not a scientist, but I am intuitive.
And when we, a year and a half ago, when we started hearing about death, I kept saying, what about the ages?
I want ages.
How come three more people died in Yorba Linda today?
How old are they?
How old are they?
I kept saying it.
And people are going, oh, it's a HIPAA rule.
I said, no, no.
I study patterns.
And my entire life, I listened to the news and they say a 43-year-old mother of three died in a car accident.
They don't give her name, but they'll tell you the 43-year-old or 19-year-old pedestrian was crossing and was hit by a truck.
Now, all of a sudden, we just have people dying of COVID, no ages.
So I'm like, what are the ages?
Why aren't they giving us the ages?
That's a very important part of this.
Because obviously, my dad is 90.
My son is 15.
If this kills my dad, there's no reason to panic.
If it kills my son, there's ample reason to panic.
Okay?
There's a big difference.
dave rubin
You brought your son to my birthday party.
Nobody died.
adam carolla
Nobody died.
dave rubin
There were some old people there, by the way.
adam carolla
Here's an interesting thought experiment.
If anyone who has a child, if you were leaving the hospital, and before you left the hospital, they said, oh, you've got to spin the wheel.
And you said, what is the wheel?
Oh, it's just a two-part wheel.
On one side, it says 85, and on the other side, it says 15.
And you go, why do I have to spin the wheel?
Because that's the age your infant's going to die.
If you spun that wheel that landed on 85, you'd never stop celebrating.
You never would stop.
So that's the difference between ages.
If it landed on 15, you would be a heap of tears.
You'd be hugging your wife.
It would be emotional.
If it landed on 85, you would literally, everyone in the hospital would be cheering.
So that's a difference.
So here's the deal.
It was killing old people and killing old people.
And as a matter of fact, some of the data is the group that died in the highest numbers in the United States was older than the median age of natural death.
So if the natural debt, literally the highest number, I think it was like 175,000 peep Americans died, or maybe it's 200 by now, but was actually like 82 and the median death was 80 or whatever.
So that's not going to work for CNN.
That's not going to work at all.
How can you panic all the moms with that kind of information?
So what did we do with COVID?
We left out the ages intentionally of all the elderly who died and statistically are at risk versus the non-statistical risk of basically anyone under 50.
And what'd we do?
We focused on the kids.
Now we closed the schools.
Well, closing the schools as a metaphor for closing society, schools, Our society.
So if you'd like to close down California, good luck closing down California if the schools are still open.
So you close the schools and then you go, well, the schools are closed.
Look, we got to shut down every, every restaurant, every bar and every gym because the schools are closed.
It was all part of a huge narrative, but it's all the ages.
And if you want to know why they're constantly working the kids, by the way, another study came out that said masks essentially are useless for kids in the classroom.
Why so much focus on something that statistically doesn't exist?
Because kids scare all the moms and the elderly don't.
dave rubin
And at what point, as someone that just lived a month of my life having nothing to do with COVID, as I said, I was at a resort for two weeks where the guests didn't have to wear masks.
The staff did.
I didn't want my guys to wear masks, and I told everyone that they didn't have to, and I was sorry that they did.
But that made me think, well, we're going to end up in a class war over this thing, too, because the service class and the blue collar workers and your construction workers and your servers and waiters and waitresses are all going to be wearing masks while the people that can afford to not do those things.
So now we're going to have a class war.
adam carolla
Oh, yeah.
You missed a good visual, which was Nancy Pelosi had a big fundraising Outdoor dinner with all the gentry there.
No one was masked, but all the poor Hispanics that were bringing them the ceviche were masked up.
That encapsulates the entire moment we're talking about.
dave rubin
That's what they like.
That's what they like actually, because they're the elites while they pretend that they're fighting for the average person.
So we're going to have this weird class war that's going to kick in because of this thing.
The kid part is just evil.
I mean, I was just, when I went to this family wedding, I got to see some of my nieces and nephews who I haven't seen much of in the last two years.
And as I'm talking to my nephew, my 11-year-old nephew about masks,
and it's like he doesn't get to see his friends as much anymore and they're doing everything online.
So even when they're playing PlayStation, instead of back in my day when I would sit in the same room
and play NBA 95 with my buddy, they're doing everything online now.
And they're just gonna break kids' ability to be social.
I mean, it's all here.
At this point, do you think I'm crazy when I say this?
'Cause I thought about this a lot for the month.
At this point, and again, I don't have every data point I know you're giving me whatever you can here.
To me, you open up absolutely everything, no restrictions, and then everyone makes whatever decision they wanna make for themselves.
I went to the mall yesterday, I got a nice new jacket, and everyone's walking around.
The mall's basically empty because people are afraid of humans, but there's no evidence that anyone in that mall was sick, or that if you were, you probably didn't go to the mall, but if you wanna go and you're afraid, you wear a mask.
But I, at this point, COVID just wouldn't exist in a certain respect if I was running the world because people, there's risk in life.
That's it.
That's just it.
And you make some decisions for yourself.
I know I'm a radical freedom expert.
adam carolla
I know.
I know.
Well, no, no, you're not.
You're a COVID denier.
That's the new world order.
If you say the insurrection was a riot than you're saying, than your denier.
And it's like, no, I'm just, just accurate in my terminology.
But so here's the, here's the long and the short of it, as I can tell.
California, especially where we live, is not in the business of letting you make your own decisions.
And they've not been in that business for a long time.
People think this is new.
It is not new.
I'm a builder.
I formerly was a builder and I continue to build.
Have fun building something in California.
Have fun.
Because they will give you permission and they will dictate every aspect of that build.
So this notion of all of a sudden this thing has reared its ugly head?
No, anyone who's had to do business in California and especially had to build something in California knows this has been around for a long time.
It's been hit with creatine.
It's been supersized now because of this.
But this is the This is the state we live in and have lived in for a long time.
dave rubin
Can we shift for a second to maybe some good news since you're mentioning California?
Please, God, if I ask the good Lord for one thing on this day that I come back to the grid, please tell me that the recall situation is going well.
I have a sense That it might be because I did do one thing over this course of the month related to all this.
I did have one dinner for Larry Elder because there was a fundraising thing that I felt it was important that I was at to help him make some connections.
And everyone knew I was off the grid, so I didn't hear anything, but I got a sense, this was about halfway through the month, that there was some momentum there.
Please, God, Adam, even if you want to lie to me a little bit, give me some hope here.
We got 14 days, like, please, a little momentum?
Come on.
adam carolla
Well, I think Larry does have some momentum because the L.A.
Times is launching attack pieces against him, and so is CNN.
dave rubin
That's as good as it gets.
All you need is the attack pieces.
That means it's going well.
Perfect.
adam carolla
Right.
A headline out of the L.A.
Times that you'll particularly enjoy was that Larry Elder is the new face of white supremacy.
And I oftentimes think of you And I cite you a lot, because your story of going from the left to the right and saying, it seems impossible that everyone who disagrees with us is racist.
It seems improbable statistically, because we're talking about economic policy, except for everyone I'm arguing with is racist, if I'm on the left.
And so here's the thing.
They are so out of ideas on the left and can do nothing to Larry Elder's policies.
They, they can't attack his policies.
They literally just have sexism and racism.
Those are the two things.
So they're focusing, um, CNN with Jim Acosta ran a piece that was so laughable.
It was insane.
They pulled a clip of Larry Elder's radio show from four years ago.
Where he made an innocuous joke about women marching in the Million Woman March.
And the gist of the joke was Trump has motivated more fat women to get off the sofa and march than Michelle Obama did with her health initiative.
It's a good joke.
And it's true.
And then Jim Acosta called it disgusting.
unidentified
Which, by the way, makes him he's such a clown.
adam carolla
He's such a pussy.
But OK.
And by the way, he's a liar.
He doesn't think that's disgusting.
But the point is, CNN has entered the fray.
dave rubin
That's great.
That is great.
So it's finally getting national attention.
That's what I was saying right before I went off the grid, that one of the types of fake news is that the media just ignores things.
It's not that they lie about everything, it's that they ignore certain things.
So if CNN's hitting this right now, that is spectacular.
adam carolla
Yes, they are.
Now, one has to say, which I always find something I talk to, Dr. Drew about privately all the time, which is I do not get the Los Angeles Times.
Here's an interesting statistic.
Um, cause I went and looked it up.
Um, California always looks at itself as sort of the vanguard for all progressive movements.
Like as California goes, so follows the nation and the world.
You know, we set, we're the leader in gay marriage and when the leader of social justice, like where the leader, um, We've had governors for over 150 years.
We've never had a black governor.
unidentified
Never.
adam carolla
So California has never had a black governor.
We've had governors since 1849.
We've never had a black governor.
And the LA Times, who's on the vanguard of diversity, is going to attack the first potential black governor of California.
So what are the rules?
Friends on the left are the rules.
We want black people in positions of power.
Because I don't think that's the rule.
Just be clear.
We want black people who agree with us in power.
And if not, you're Candace Owens or Larry Elder.
You're not even black.
dave rubin
We like minorities who bow forever.
That's what it is.
We don't like gays.
We like gays who bow forever.
We like black people who bow forever.
We like women who bow forever.
Look, it sounds to me, I know I've been out of it for a little while, sounds to me like the LA Times has gone full white supremacist.
adam carolla
I don't, but my whole point is how do you do this with a straight face?
That's my whole point.
And all you have is Um, anyone who wants to run and and all Larry Elder talks about is school choice and regulation and border security and all that kind of stuff.
And all they talk about is racism.
And by the way, if you want to know how brazen they are, They're doing it with a black male.
I mean, I know you know that, but I mean, it's like they're so committed to their calls of racism for anyone who opposes them that they will do it for a guy who was born in South Central and attended Crenshaw High.
That's how committed they are to calling everyone a racist.
dave rubin
And by the way, on September 14th, the key thing is you just have to vote yes or no on the recall.
That's the beautiful thing.
So who in their right mind is going to vote that day and be like, yes, everything's great.
Even if you're a complete progressive nutbag, who in their right mind would go to the polling place that day and be like, yes, we want more of Gavin Newsom, we want more homelessness, we want more drugs on the street, we want less policing, all of those things?
Like, that's why I think there's some hope here, because what was it, something like 1.7 million people hand-signed The recall, because you had to do it hand-signed, right?
You couldn't do it online.
So those people are going to be incentivized.
Those people are going to be excited to get out there on the 14th.
How many of Newsom's people are going to be really excited, unless you can trick them into thinking that the black man is a white supremacist?
Wait, so are there any numbers?
Are there any numbers, like polling numbers or anything?
Or are you just, the sense is that we're in good shape here?
adam carolla
I saw a graph that your people provided me, and I have to access that, because I have a large stack of papers to get into with you.
But it was, I think it's sort of within the margins of error.
I think, you know, Larry- That's amazing.
dave rubin
That's amazing.
Larry's still- We're throwing it up right now.
That's awesome.
Yeah, 46.3 versus 50.
adam carolla
Oh my god.
I don't know how old this survey is.
I'm guessing it's fairly current if your people dug it up, but it's there.
We're within a few ticks and who the heck knows.
Wow.
So that's good news.
dave rubin
I'm telling you, man, I'm gonna devote the next two weeks of my life
Maybe I'm crazy, but you and I stayed.
You know, Knowles, Shapiro, the rest of those guys, they fled.
But what if Carolla and Rubin lead the charge?
And Dr. Drew, you know, lead the charge to save this freaking thing.
And then instead of, oh, the country goes as California goes, the country gets saved because we saved California.
I'm not kidding.
I'm devoting the next two weeks of my life to this.
I actually just texted.
I did pick up my phone this morning to text.
And I texted Larry.
I said, anything you need, anything, I'm there.
adam carolla
Yeah.
Well, look, again, you cannot do worse than Gavin Newsom.
So this is different than Gavin Newsom.
And I said to somebody once who said, this is months ago before Larry got into the fray.
I said, who would you like over Gavin Newsom?
And I said, one of those plastic owls that people put up on their sign at the restaurant at the beach so the seagulls don't crap on it.
Yeah, that would be fine.
dave rubin
That would be just fine.
adam carolla
The owl wouldn't be destructive.
Just be there.
All right.
dave rubin
By the way, wait, one quick thing on this, which is, you know, I've seen these ads on YouTube as I was watching just old basketball games where this guy, do you know who this guy is?
This Reed Hastings guy, he's the CEO of Netflix and he's been basically Gavin Newsom's piggy bank for this thing.
So he runs these crazy anti-Larry Elder ads and it's, yeah, implying he's a white supremacist and he's an anti-vaxxer.
And in one of the ads, they basically are like, voting for Gavin Newsom is a life or death I'm slightly paraphrasing, but that's basically what it says.
The implication that Larry is going to kill your children and Gavin Newsom, who you're telling me COVID's not going so well.
He's been in charge of this whole time.
He's obviously gonna save your children.
These people, the lies, man, these are not good people.
adam carolla
Well, I'll circle back just to put a button on COVID.
dave rubin
All right, we got some good news today.
All right.
adam carolla
Just so people know, and it's anecdotal, of course, Here's personally my own experience with COVID.
I know a few people.
There's Bean Baxter, Dean Baxter from Kevin and Bean, K-Rock, started many years ago with them.
Bean got COVID, got hit pretty hard, recovered fine.
He did everything right according to him.
Masking and washing hands and spraying everything down with Lysol and not leaving the house except for, you know, to go to the essentials and everything.
He did everything.
He's a very festivitous guy and he did everything very well.
He got it.
Mike August, who you know, books all my live shows and does all this stuff.
I travel the country with him.
We play clubs, we sit on airplanes next to each other, we stay in hotels, we share Ubers, whatever.
He doesn't get it, then gets vaccinated, then does get it.
dave rubin
I mean, that's what I referenced before.
adam carolla
I don't do anything right.
I never wear a mask.
I never wash my hands.
I've never washed my hands since before this.
I don't believe in it, by the way.
I believe it does more harm than good.
Separate subject.
I do not sterilize anything.
I stay, every club date I play, I stay and shake the hand of 200 people and take a picture of my arm around 200 guys, all massless, all indoors.
And then when I'm done shaking everyone's hand, I go back to the green room and I grab a handful of cashews before I wash my hands and I eat the cashews.
I have never gotten it.
So you tell me what doing everything right Versus not doing anything, versus doing some of the things.
This is the whole gypsy lady aspect to this.
dave rubin
You should be studied like a mutant.
You know what I mean?
Maybe that's your superpower.
You're eating the cashews and you haven't croaked.
adam carolla
How many people do you have to hear go, I did everything right, and then I got COVID, before you realize, well, what is right?
Then how does this work?
And the answer is, we don't know.
dave rubin
Wait, can I just ask you one other thing?
It's COVID and California.
So are we in any sort of lockdown right now?
I'm with you.
I don't wear it.
If I get asked when I go in, then I'm not there to fight with the sales associate at Bloomingdale's and I'm trying to be nice to people and all of that stuff.
But what is the actual policy?
Are there some states that are, I assume no one's locked down anymore, but are there some states that are doing more mass stuff and some kind of letting people live?
Is Florida still the only free state we got left?
adam carolla
Yeah, they're they're doing what they've always done.
Texas is doing that as well.
Alaska is Alaska.
I was there.
They don't care.
I suspect California would like to impose more draconian rules, but we're right in the middle.
Of a recall.
dave rubin
Yeah.
adam carolla
And I don't know what Gavin Newsom's relationship with COVID is.
I think Gavin Newsom's relationship two weeks out from the recall vote is, I will keep beating the drum of how dangerous it is and how you need me to save you from COVID.
But if I shut down restaurants, it's going to be a shit storm.
And I don't want to do that 10 days before The recall vote.
dave rubin
On top of the fact, there's no evidence that locking anyone down did anything, but we've got to stop that black white supremacist.
So I get it, I get it.
adam carolla
That's right.
dave rubin
I'm very excited about this elder thing, man.
That's the best thing you could have told me.
adam carolla
Well, maybe more good news with Governor Cuomo resigning.
I know you probably heard some rumblings of that.
unidentified
No!
adam carolla
No rumbling!
dave rubin
He actually resigned?
No?
Yeah, sorry.
Wait, he's not the governor anymore?
adam carolla
He's not the governor.
He has resigned.
dave rubin
No shit.
Cause of the sexual stuff or the murder stuff?
adam carolla
Right.
It's not the 10,000 people he sent to their death with the nursing home.
It's the slapping chicks on the ass aspect of his governing that got him out.
dave rubin
Was it a false final smoking gun?
I'm shocked.
I'm actually, I'm completely shocked.
adam carolla
I'm sorry in that I forgot you didn't know because this whole thing, He resigned and he gave himself two weeks to resign.
And that was about a week or 10 days ago.
So as I sort of backdate this whole thing, this must've been going down while you were Ubering to the airport to leave town.
Like you just missed this one.
dave rubin
Wow.
So he is, so, okay.
So he, so technically he's still in that window or no?
He's gone.
adam carolla
No, no.
Yes, he's gone.
So he was gone a week or 10 days ago.
Oh, I gotcha, I gotcha.
And you have to add two more weeks onto that.
So you just missed it, in other words, is what I'm saying.
dave rubin
And was there a final moment?
Was there a video?
Because I really thought he was going to get by.
It seemed like the ship had sailed and it was like, yeah, you killed all those people.
You smacked a couple of girls on the ass, but we're moving on.
I'm shocked.
I'm completely shocked.
adam carolla
They took his Emmy back, by the way.
dave rubin
Does he have to give the five million on the book advance back, too?
adam carolla
That he pocketed.
I don't think they're going for that, but they got the Emmy recall.
The thing that's interesting about this and the Me Too movement, and I've talked to Mark Geragos about this many times, it's sort of like the Me Too movement works this way.
If it was the law, you'd say, well, you can have one murder conviction or you can have 11 jaywalking convictions and it would be the same.
You know what I mean?
So it's an interesting thing, which is another woman has come out against Cuomo.
And I'm not here to defend Cuomo, but another woman has come out against Cuomo.
What happened?
Well, he put both his hands on my cheeks and he kissed me on the forehead at a wedding.
And it's like, okay.
And then at a certain point, the news goes, now there's 11 women.
Isn't that enough for him to resign?
It's like, well, not 11 jaywalking tickets.
That's not enough to give a guy a murder rap.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
So wait, is that really what happened?
That there was just one more and finally the damn broke because nobody cared.
It was just like, ah, And by the way, I'm not, you know, you know, my feelings on this, which are the same as yours about evidence and, you know, accusations are just accusations.
And a lot of the stuff about, you know, tapping someone on the butt or kissing someone on the head, like it's life, like, you know, but I'm not even making a judgment call on that, but you're telling me it was just another one.
And then it just, the scale tipped.
adam carolla
It was essentially, there seemed to be one credible one where he He put his, allegedly put his hand up a blouse or something.
The rest was a lot of pats on the bellies and finger dragging down the spine saying, hey you, you know, just kind of weird, semi-creepy stuff.
dave rubin
Ultimately... Didn't he ask someone to touch his cannoli or something?
Wasn't there, there was something cannoli related, I think.
adam carolla
It became this sort of saturation level, like people got to a saturation level with But essentially, it wasn't sexual abuse.
It was abuse of power.
And if you all know, the one thing the left has to really come out against is, you know, a white male, heterosexual male in a position of power that is being inappropriate with women who are well beneath him in the socioeconomic pecking order.
So they couldn't ignore the abuse of power.
And it really wasn't.
I mean, again, This is my opinion.
It was less sexual abuse because there wasn't any real defining... He ripped my blouse off and he raped me repeatedly.
It was all...
An abuse of authority.
dave rubin
It's not like he took a cigar and, say, sodomized an intern while on the phone with Trent Lott in the White House.
It wouldn't be that sort of thing.
adam carolla
Not like that whole Jimmy Carter incident you're speaking of, yes.
dave rubin
Not that Jimmy.
Wait, so, dare I ask, I don't even know who the attorney general, sorry, the lieutenant governor of New York is, but I'm gonna guess it's probably somebody worse, so you have to be careful what you ask for?
adam carolla
I don't want to pop your balloon after we're sailing so high.
unidentified
But little known fact, it is now the governor.
adam carolla
No, it's Gavin Newsom.
He has dual coastal citizenship and he's now running both coasts.
Sorry, Dave.
dave rubin
Oh, terrible, terrible.
No, but I assume is it someone just like further left?
adam carolla
Yeah, it's a female lieutenant governor who's stepped in to fill the void.
So he's out.
And again, this is the problem.
The left never stops talking about every woman needs to be believed and, you know, after they do their hit piece on Kavanaugh and all that kind of stuff.
And then when it happens to one of their own, they would be insane hypocrites to say, well, you know, Kavanaugh's a rapist, but Cuomo's just fine.
And they pin themselves into a corner essentially because they never stop bloviating about every, you know, every woman needs to be heard and every woman needs to be believed.
And now what are they going to say?
There's 11 women.
Don't listen to them.
dave rubin
It's exactly what I always say about it.
You call everybody a Nazi.
It's not what you're doing to all of them.
It's what you're doing to yourself because you can't suddenly be like, ah, that one I call the Nazi.
That's not the Nazi.
adam carolla
Well, it's, it's vaccine.
Mandates and, sorry, vaccine passports and IDs.
I mean, this is a recent story that you may have missed, but you probably did the math.
You have all these governors of all these blue states explaining that showing an ID to vote is Jim Crow 2.0, and all these same governors have now legislated that you need to show an ID and a vaccine card to enter a bar, a gym, a restaurant, a federal building,
a public building, a public space.
And obviously in New York City, it's pretty astronomical in terms of the groups that have not been vaccinated.
CNN would tell you it's a bunch of guys driving Ram pickup trucks with American flag hanging.
But statistically it's the African-American community.
So basically two thirds to three quarters of black New Yorkers are not vaccinated.
And you've now told all those people they can't enter a bar or restaurant
without providing an ID, but that it would be Jim Crow if they had to provide an ID to vote.
So you've crapped all over your own point.
dave rubin
Well, that's why the lying about the voter ID laws was so dangerous.
It was such a dangerous game that they were playing in Georgia and Texas and some of those other states to keep saying it's racist to show an ID.
Because congratulations, here we are.
Now you want us to all walk around with your little vaccine mandate?
Okay, your little card?
Well, I'm not showing my ID for it.
God, it's evil.
That's what I'm talking about when I talk about just like evil just spreading throughout the system.
These liars, and that's why they always go crazy, right?
If you're just lying about everything all the time, then you always have to ratchet up the crazy.
I'm shocked about this Cuomo thing.
All right, so that's good.
That's good.
adam carolla
Yeah, well, on the same, you know, we're now, CNN's all over the Texas abortion bill and all that kind of stuff.
And now it's sort of, again, when you're talking about sort of crapping on your own points, You know, nobody should ever have to tell a woman what she can do with her own health or doctor, you know, it's between her and her doctor.
You must get vaccinated.
That's mandated by the state.
Well, don't you feel like those two ideas kind of are at loggerheads?
Like you can, you're an autonomous zone.
You can do whatever you want with your own body.
If that means an abortion in the third trimester, that is your business.
It's nobody's business, but you and your doctor, But of course, if you and your doctor decide you don't need a vaccination, you shall be run out of town.
dave rubin
Wait, so what's going on with this abortion bill?
I'm gonna guess they're trying some probably moderately decent restriction on abortion that most people would agree with, and as you know, I'm begrudgingly pro-choice, so I might even agree with it, but now the left's gonna show me how bananas they are?
Is that where we're at?
adam carolla
I don't know all the nuts and the bolts of it.
Part of the reason the left is going bananas on it is because it's six weeks versus 13 weeks or some version of that.
It's a shorter period of window where you can get an abortion.
I do have this bigger philosophical question for you, which I never really thought about because I grew up in California.
I grew up in Los Angeles.
I worked in Hollywood.
Every one of my family's You know, liberal and progressive.
And I just sort of stewed in it my whole life.
dave rubin
I never really thought about abortion doctors, if I remember correctly.
Right.
adam carolla
Yeah.
Well, I wish someone was that professional in my family.
But here's an interesting just sort of thought experiment.
I don't know if it's ever this thought has ever entered your mind, but it just entered mine this morning when I was watching CNN trying to figure out.
So everyone is outraged over The governor of Texas essentially going after abortion.
Okay.
Um, we live in California.
We have a progressive governor, progressive mayor, progressive legislators.
We live in a very blue state and it's a super majority of Democrats.
They all day, every day push their agenda.
They want, They want schools to be closed down because of COVID.
They want 16-19 curriculum taught at school.
They want transgender this.
They want the minimum wage to be $15.
You name me the subject, that's their progressive agenda, and they go for it.
All day, every day.
And it's, by the way, why California is a shitbox now, because they've been doing what they've been doing for too long.
We could tolerate it for a while.
We're at a saturation point, but fine.
dave rubin
I think I can slightly preempt you.
They're good guys, Adam.
That's the answer.
adam carolla
Right.
We live in a progressive state and they have a progressive agenda and that's what they're doing.
dave rubin
Yeah.
adam carolla
Why is it when there is a red state and a conservative governor?
Well, that's his agenda.
I mean, CNN should understand it doesn't just work one way.
It's not blue state, blue agenda, red state, no agenda.
No, a red state is a red state and it has a conservative governor and a conservative is against abortion.
So that's what he's doing.
dave rubin
Right, but it's a great point.
And again, it gets to why I'm always so interested in the media narrative more than the specifics, because of course you vote in people to do certain things, but the media is in on it.
With the lefties and the Democrats, so they like their policies, so their policies will always be good, and the Republican policies will always be bad.
You know, real quick on the abortion thing, you know, in my book, I talk about a 12-week cutoff with very limited exceptions to that, you know, real health-related things either for the mother or for the child, but I can tell you this, Adam, and I think you know a little bit on the personal side on this, you know, David and I have been trying to have kids for a while.
Two miscarriages with our surrogate, and we've had a further complication with a new surrogate.
But this idea that this isn't a living being, somehow six weeks, or 13 weeks, or 20 weeks in, or certainly eight months in, is crazy.
I mean, I know when they've taken my sperm and the egg and put it together, and they now show me how many embryos we have, we're allowed to say, do you want to implant a male or a female, after like three days.
Basically.
They do genetic testing.
It goes from a blastocyst to a full embryo, all of these things.
So the idea that even though I take this position, which I know is a lot of conservatives are not happy with me about, although some will admit privately they're somewhere there too, because they want to take a more libertarian approach and understand that life is kind of messy on the margins and all that.
It's like these people that will tell you gender doesn't exist.
It's like, then what is my fertility doctor telling me?
My fertility doctor saying, do you want to choose the male embryo or the female embryo?
Is he a liar or a nutbag?
And is that a life?
Well, I'm pretty sure if you can tell if it's a sex, then it's a life.
So it's like, this is where, again, if you just lie about everything, which is what they do, then you end up lying about so much more, that it's not a life, and sex doesn't matter in any of those things.
So for me, six weeks is pushing it.
I think 12 weeks is fair, but that's where a healthy society could have an honest debate, but obviously that's not the society we live in.
adam carolla
Yeah, I agree with you.
I'm pretty moderate on the subject.
This sort of notion, you know, there's a couple of things, which is, you know, it's my body.
I can do what I want with my body.
Well, it's not your body.
It's somebody else's body that's living in your body.
So let's sort of be clear about it.
Also, obviously, if somebody gave birth and then drowned the kid, they're up for murder.
It's not exactly, you know, neither here nor there in terms of whether it's a human or not.
I'm with you.
I don't really have a dog in the fight.
I feel like I understand both arguments.
There's a lot of hyperbole on both sides.
The left is sort of going nuts at this point because they're celebrating abortion and talking about is, you know, women don't have access to health care and stuff like that.
They go nuts and go hyperbolic on everything all the time.
I get it.
Pick what we sort of agree on as a sensible, hard-out for the abortion, and that shall be the law of the land.
That's the way I've always approached it myself.
dave rubin
Yeah, and by the way, the funny thing is that you and I can both take that position, which I know that more and more of, let's say, our right-leaning or conservative audience will not like, but no one's going to send us a death threat over this.
No one's going to try to cancel us over this.
When people read my book and I took that position, I met literally or got emails from hundreds or thousands of people that said, Dave, I love the book.
I disagree with you on abortion, but that's okay.
And it's like, that is the fundamental difference between broadly what happens on the right these days and what happens on the left.
What else did I miss?
What else did I miss?
adam carolla
All right, well, I have to go pee, so I'm gonna do one more.
Okay.
Something that I drilled down on my podcast, which I thought was interesting, that happened when you were abroad.
dave rubin
So Joe Biden's still president, right?
Joe Biden's still president.
That thing didn't fall apart?
adam carolla
No, he has, well, in name.
I don't know if his spirit is there, but he is technically still president.
University of Wisconsin moves 70-ton rock off of campus to fight racism.
So I'm pretty well-versed in this story because I took notice of it.
I kind of drilled down on it on my show.
There is a rock, a boulder, a 70-ton boulder that's billions of years old because it was pushed there by a glacier a billion years ago, was on the campus of University of Wisconsin, was named After the first chancellor, dean, or president, or one of the presidents of the University of Wisconsin, who was like a botanist.
So he was, you know, he was a tree hugger.
And he was, that was 150 years ago and they named this boulder after him.
You're probably thinking right now, why did they have to move a racist boulder?
dave rubin
You know, I don't ask these questions anymore, actually.
It's like, yeah, this is what they do.
adam carolla
This is what they do.
In a article in a newspaper from 1925, they use a racially disparaging term for the boulder for some reason.
It's unclear why, but in one article from 1925, they called it something horrible.
And for that reason, 70, uh, 73 years later or 72 years later, whatever it is, Oh, I'm sorry.
90, 90, yeah.
unidentified
I was gonna read no math on my day off.
adam carolla
97, 98 years later, whatever it is, they must, they've been asked to remove the boulder and
they have removed the boulder because it was offensive to people who were in the community,
out of the black student union or something.
And they pulled the plaque off it, which had the name of the president, who was the botanist guy.
unidentified
Where do they put the racist boulder?
dave rubin
Where is the boulder now?
adam carolla
It's still on the grounds of the University of Wisconsin.
They just moved it.
Because we all know that's going to help the kids in the inner city of Chicago, right?
Problem's over.
But here's what I said to everyone, and I'd like your take on this.
You know, when I objected to them pulling down statues I always, when you're dealing with the progressive left, it's called a progressive movement.
It's got the word progress and movement in it.
There's no signs of it stopping or slowing down.
So first they're going after Civil War generals who are on the wrong side of history.
And they go, what's wrong with that?
Well, what's wrong with that is the next ones they go after is Lewis and Clark.
And now they're at a boulder.
That's what's wrong with it.
dave rubin
It never stops.
You can't progress.
You can't progress for the sake of progress.
You have to progress for the sake of equality, basically.
But yeah, they just go and go and go.
So congratulations.
We're not just removing rocks.
We're just moving them.
That's like the more interesting part of this story is that they didn't blow it into smithereens.
They didn't hide it underground.
They just moved it.
adam carolla
Again, We must be out of problems.
That's the one hopeful sign of this whole thing.
dave rubin
Corolla, I'm shocked here.
COVID, all right, that stuff, it is what it is.
We got some hope out of California.
Cuomo's gone.
The Afghanistan thing sounds kind of messy, so I'll obviously have to do a little homework on that for the rest of the day.
And the rock, that's it.
adam carolla
That's right.
dave rubin
Nothing else, nothing else.
adam carolla
How are you doing?
Speaking of The Rock, there is a cop who looks exactly like The Rock.
That story happened like 10 minutes ago, but I'm doing well.
I'm sitting here in my studio in California and I'm, you know, I'm keeping it together.
Busy, traveling, doing shows all around the country, writing my sixth book and working on documentaries.
I can't complain.
dave rubin
You gonna help me with this elder thing for the next two weeks?
adam carolla
I will!
Send me a text, because I've been wanting to reach out to Larry myself.
dave rubin
Yeah, we'll do.
All right, listen, I'm gonna let you pee.
I'll finish up solo for a couple minutes here, but I really, I thank you, man, for doing this.
I know this was a heavy lift in between shows for you and a long schedule and everything, so it's good to see you.
And I told everybody when I got back, I really perfected the smoked brisket this month, so yeah, we'll do it.
adam carolla
All right, I'll see you at the grill.
Thanks, buddy.
dave rubin
All right, be good, Adam.
Wow, I don't even know what to say right now.
The Cuomo thing is just an absolute shock.
Like I really thought that the ship had sailed on that one.
You know, and I don't like the idea of people being destroyed for things that maybe they shouldn't be destroyed for and just the general destructive force of Cancel culture and everything else, but you guys play by these rules and occasionally these rules are gonna get you, so that's interesting.
The Afghanistan thing, I need to know more.
Sounds like a disaster, but as I said, I'm more interested in how the media plays it.
If Trump had been president during all of this, would the media be behaving exactly how it is?
I just need some more info before I can comment more on that.
The COVID stuff sounds a little, Bit messy, but I didn't quite get enough info on, like, is it really worse?
Like, and again, why is no hospital collapsed?
Why did not one of our lovely homeless centers that we have here, of these, you know, tents and buildings, these structures that homeless people build here, was there any massive outbreak in any of those?
Like, why did not one city somewhere fail?
Mass, like, none of that has happened.
These are questions that I think you're allowed to ask.
I don't want to get banned from YouTube the day I'm back, but these are questions to ask.
And then, of course, the good news sounds like this Larry Elder thing could really be real.
Like, how cool would that be?
And then I get to call Shapiro and Knowles and be like, you guys bailed on Cali, but me and Larry Elder saved it.
Like, maybe it could happen.
So that's where a lot of my energy is going to be over the next little bit.
I do want to reiterate Like, just like an unbelievable heartfelt and authentic thank you to you guys for allowing me to do what I did for the last month.
I am ready to fight in a way that is stronger and better and more prepared than when I left.
And that's the purpose of this thing.
This was my fifth August off the grid, and when I did it five years ago, it was a lark.
It was just like, ah, let me just do something interesting.
And it's gotten more difficult each year as my profile is raised and I have more businesses
and more responsibilities and things like that.
And that's even just more reason to do it.
But I really, I was able over the last month to just like get my shit in order.
I listened to a lot of Jordan Peterson interviews, by the way, and I, you know, we've all got stuff
that we're dealing with, whether it's within our families or our own stuff, our own dragon that we have to face down.
And I really did a lot of work on that front, Completely and 100% ready to be back in this fight with you guys I think for me, you know, the challenge over the next couple days will be how quickly do I get back into this thing?
You know, it's not creating videos.
That's the headache.
It's not Communicating with my locals community, which is an absolute true joy.
I mean the people that really Fuel this operation and that I get to really exchange ideas with them that I respond to and everything else It's not that It seems like Twitter is the one where most of the evil exists, and I want to really re-evaluate my behavior with Twitter, because that seems to be where this endless hostile thought war is mostly taking place.
Yeah, it takes place in the YouTube comments section, and it takes place on Facebook and all the rest of it.
But Twitter seems to be like a particular perverse evil.
But I really am gonna take some of the things that I practiced over this last month.
Again, no phone in the bedroom.
Stop watching the news at a certain time at night.
Get out there and be friendly when you're at the grocery store or wherever else.
Oh, one policy that David and I did institute over the last couple weeks since we've been back is when we're walking Clyde, I will say hello and smile and say how you doing to every single neighbor that is not wearing a mask.
But I've decided I'm not saying hello to the mask people anymore.
And the reason for that is, what I've realized over the last couple weeks, is that the mask people are not friendly.
As a general rule, and of course there's always exceptions to the rule, But the masked people, I would say hi to, and they just ignore you.
They're actually using it as an excuse to never be human anymore.
And what I have found is the non-masked people tend to be friendlier and nicer and happier.
So that's what I mean about we're just going to further split into two worlds.
And I think that's okay.
I think that's okay.
Because the world that I'm gonna help build, and that I'm gonna talk about, and that you guys are gonna be part of, is gonna be a world that's based on the ideas that we're always talking about here, right?
Like, it's gonna be based on the ideas of individual choice and freedom.
And at Locals, like, I'm never gonna, as long as I'm part of Locals, like, I'm never gonna say, you have to have a vaccine to work here.
It's none of my business.
You know what I mean?
Like, we're gonna just build new things and let the other people build the things
that will be based on critical race theory.
Let them do diversity and inclusion hirings and all those things.
And I think that's what will be the split of America.
And maybe it feels a little like a civil war.
It's not fun to talk about.
But at this point, this gets me back to the beginning, I just don't see a way around it.
But that doesn't mean it has to be horrible.
I don't want people fighting in the streets.
And for those of us that are more freedom-focused, it's trickier for us because we can build something good and they're gonna still all want a piece of it, right?
Where we don't really want, like, they can go build your institutions, build your crappy colleges and your stupid businesses built on diversity and build bad products and have the Emmys now and have all of that stuff.
I don't want any of that stuff.
I don't care about that stuff.
But they're going to still want our stuff, right?
Because we're going to build better products and we're going to build better businesses.
So I'm going to really, guys, over the next however long it is, if there's any way that I can help anyone that's building anything cool, whether it's a business or a product or a technology, I want to help promote people.
I want to hear about the people that are fighting for the right things.
I was in Malibu a couple days ago.
And I met this young kid at a store who said he was a big fan, and he found Jordan Peterson through me, and he said to me that we saved his life.
And we talked to him for a little bit, and it's like, I'm gonna guess that Jordan probably saved his life more than I did, but if my job there was only that I introduced him to Jordan Peterson, this kid had his life in order.
He was going to Pepperdine, he was doing well.
And it's like, We can build something better together, but we got to do it together.
Not because we're guilted into being together, but because we want to save whatever is left of the good America.
I want to fight for saving it.
I also want to just not go crazy in the process.
And I hope that if you have been interested in anything I said here for the last two hours, or just why I took part in this.
You know, everyone's so amazed that I do this thing.
It's like, let's rethink our relationship.
With this thing before they just come to get us because it is a digital war versus us right now.
There's a digital world in the real world.
I'm sitting in a room wearing some clothes and this is going out through those digital pipes and we got to figure out how to manage what the future is going to be.
Are we just going to be people who wear masks and never leave our houses and fight with people online all the time?
Or are we into people who dare to get out there and dare to build new things and interact with other people and take some of the lessons that our parents and grandparents and forefathers before them learned about freedom and the human experience and all that stuff.
So, I'm feeling great.
I'm super psyched about the Larry Elder part of this.
Like, maybe this thing can happen.
Maybe this thing...
Wouldn't it be awesome?
You gotta dream, right?
That's Jordan Peterson.
You gotta look at that star and go, that's the thing in the distance, so maybe we could do this.
And then it's like, man, if we fixed Callie and show them, no, enough is enough.
Enough is enough.
Maybe we can fix the rest of this thing.
So I have a bit of a crazy day today.
I haven't even looked at Twitter yet.
I've started to just check a couple emails right before some work-related stuff.
But I'm gonna try to ease back into everything.
I will be back normal time tomorrow, of course, at 11 a.m.
We'll do a Q&A just to get, I know people are just gonna wanna talk mostly about off-the-grid stuff.
So we'll do that.
Oh, and tonight, I'm on Tucker Carlson.
Tonight, I haven't been on in a while, but I know Tucker was interested in the off-the-grid situation, wanted to catch me up on a couple things.
I don't know the exact hit time for that, but Tucker is on at 8 p.m.
Eastern and 5 p.m.
Pacific time, so I hope you'll tune in.
And again, guys, I just, I really, I thank you.
I'm ready to fight with you.
So you have afforded me, if you watch this, and especially if you're in the Locals community, you've afforded me an incredible opportunity so that we can do this thing together.
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