Adam Carolla joins Dave Rubin to critique California's decline, comparing the state to an aging beauty reliant on looks while smart citizens flee government abuse and transportation failures. He attacks leaders like Gavin Newsom for ineffective loitering laws and condemns lockdowns as scientifically baseless tools of control rather than safety measures. Carolla further alleges that mainstream media rigged the 2020 election by suppressing stories like the Hunter Biden laptop, while his documentary No Safe Spaces exposes how woke ideology permeates society. Ultimately, he urges listeners to reject digital isolation, trust blue-collar risk assessments over office worker fear, and lead by example with their children. [Automatically generated summary]
What's happened to L.A., it kind of, I always thought of L.A., and even California for sure, as kind of that hot blonde from high school that was always the belle of the ball, didn't have to study very hard, phone rang every Friday night for a date, really was able to kind of get by in her looks and kind of cruise.
And now that blonde is 47 years old and not the belle of the ball anymore.
And you know, if you listen to Gavin Newsom, that guy, I've heard interviews with him going, Hey man, where are you going to go?
It's like, it's like the 47 year old blonde saying to the football star, Hey, don't you want some of this?
And it's like, no, not, I can find some of that in Texas or Arizona or Nevada.
All right, first off, I gotta ask you something, because there is a rumor going around town, and my guys, my team, seem to believe this rumor, that you're moving to Texas.
Now, when I talk about short lists, on my short list of L.A.
people, I got Adam Carolla, I got Dennis Prager, I got Larry Elder, John Voight.
I did a hit on Tucker Carlson, I guess last week, and they brought the van to my house.
And Tucker always does the when you leave in L.A.
And I think he grew up in, I think, L.A.
and San Diego.
So a lot of the guys and him and Shapiro are the two when you leave in L.A.
guys because they were in L.A.
and they left.
And I've always been in L.A.
So, just off the cuff, because we're in this van that was a satellite van, I just, as an improvisational comedian, I just said, oh, Tucker, as soon as this hits over, I'm going to commandeer this van and I'm driving to Houston.
And for some reason, that didn't come across as a joke to a lot of people, but you should have seen that it was a joke, people, because If I was going to Houston, I would certainly do it on a Southwest flight.
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I don't think I'd commandeer a $250,000 satellite van.
Sounds like you're staying for a little bit, but I did have you over for dinner a couple months ago, and you said you were on a three-year plan, and we're watching Cali just fall apart.
Yeah, my kids are just getting into high school, if you want to call it getting into high school, because I walked into both their bedrooms this morning and they're both laying in bed with their covers over them.
And I went, hey, I thought it was school time.
And we're on the Zoom class from underneath a comforter.
You know, what's happened to L.A.?
It kind of I I always thought of L.A.
and even California, for sure.
As kind of that hot blonde from high school that was always the belle of the ball, didn't have to study very hard.
Phone rang every Friday night for a date.
Really was able to kind of get by in her looks and kind of cruise.
And now that blonde is 47 years old and not the belle of the ball anymore.
And you know, if you listen to Gavin Newsom, that guy, I've heard interviews with him going, Hey man, where are you going to go?
It's like, it's like the 47 year old blonde.
saying to the football star, hey, don't you want some of this?
And it's like, no, not I can find some of that in Texas or Arizona or Nevada or Nashville, Tennessee or whatever.
But there's a kind of a thing where it's like when you're used to being the belle of the ball, you don't study that hard.
You don't try that hard.
I mean, California was always like we got the beaches, we got the mountains, we got all we got Disneyland, we got all this great stuff.
So it's like, well, what about How hospitable you are to business.
We couldn't get to Van Nuys from North Hollywood without the thing vapor locking.
And like, I talked to a friend of mine, Dickie from The Boss Tones, the lead singer from the band The Boss Tones.
And he was like, yeah, I moved to Arizona.
I'm like, oh, so you got to go.
He's like, the drive's not bad.
I got a great car.
It's, it's, it's got why, you know, it's, it's got Sirius XM and a, and a heater in the seat.
And it's like, it's, it's not that big of a, like physically the transportation, you know, the, the 10 flights a day that are going from Burbank to Phoenix or JetSuite X, you know, like you can get to Salt Lake City in 55 minutes.
Like there's a, there's a kind of tangible mechanical part of this.
Which is, when I was a kid, if you wanted to move, like buying a ticket on an airline was a big deal, like packing up a rider truck, again, physically didn't have cars that could make it, you know?
I think you probably have a couple Hollywood friends that still talk to you.
I've got one or two that would not be happy if I mentioned their name.
But do you think that this town is just now condemned between Garcetti at the city level and Newsom at the state level?
Do you think we are just truly condemned and now Gascon, this new DA who's not going to arrest people for prostitution or resisting arrest or a series of other things?
Yeah, it all seems like a very eerie harbinger, but I hear you brought up Hollywood, like our Hollywood friends.
If you think about this, Los Angeles, Hollywood, L.A., always been the sort of hub of production, right?
And everything was filmed.
Everything, every TV show anyone ever saw around the world was filmed in, you know, Burbank or Culver City or somewhere in Hollywood.
I mean, I've been on all those, all the, I've been all the stages.
I've been all the lots.
I'd be at Hollywood Center Studios doing The Man Show, and we did Crank Anchors there, I did Loveline there.
And at a certain point, they started getting greedy, they started over-regulating, they started over-taxing.
And so what did the most liberal people on the planet do?
They started drifting into Atlanta, they started going to Canada, started going to Prague.
I mean, they literally just left.
So it was called runaway production.
And at some point, some semi-sober person thought, we can't just have all of this money just physically leaving the state.
And they course corrected a little bit.
They were like, well, why don't we offer some incentives for these businesses, Hollywood, not to leave the state to do all as, as I've probably told your audience.
Um, I drove from this studio where I am sitting right now.
Uh, Brian Cranston came in and did the show.
Brian's a good guy.
Probably one of the more liberal guys in Hollywood.
And, uh, he said like, I got to catch an Uber to Burbank to the Burbank airport.
And I said, I'll drive it to the Burbank airport.
It's four miles away.
Then we jumped in my car.
And while we were driving there, he was explaining that Breaking Bad was supposed to be filmed out here, but of course they're going to New Mexico to film.
And of course they lost all that money and all the tourism dollars and all that kind of stuff.
So at some point they kind of wised up and they said, let's give some incentives for these guys to stay.
And I gotta believe at some point they're going to try to do that with business.
You gotta believe it, and yet- I gotta believe it.
And yet we're in the lockdown capital of the world.
I mean, you're also one of the few guys, I mean, I'm trying to do it too, but there aren't that many public people in Cali that are really publicly fighting the lockdowns and trying to get people back to work.
Your whole sort of public existence is sort of based around the value of work and your story about work, and you like people that work, basically.
You see value in work.
What's your take on just nobody's working?
I mean, we got companies with people working, thankfully, but a lot of people aren't working.
You know, I think the problem, it's kind of a, it's a leftist Democrat sort of mindset, which is why do you work?
And the answer is to get money, to buy food, to take care of your family, to pay rent.
Okay.
Well, what if we just paid your rent and gave you food?
And it's like, well, that would seem to handle the problem mathematically at first glance.
But you're forgetting about a super important part of work, which is self-worth and pride and self-esteem and the depression that kicks in and all that once you get on the dole.
So their thing is they have this bizarre approach to reverse engineer everything like, hey, if if a lot of young black teens are being Suspended from schools, then stop suspending young black teens.
It's like, okay, that's not going to fix anything.
If, if, if homelessness is illegal, then don't make it illegal anymore.
Like Gaston is that way too.
It's like the prisons are overcrowded.
How do we fix that?
Let everyone out of prison.
Well, that obviously doesn't fix, you know, the, 75% of the kids can't do math at grade level, well then lower the test scores.
It's like, okay, your car's not going fast enough, well then bust the glass of the speedometer and take your finger and turn the needle up to 80 miles an hour.
Why is it though, I think I've asked you this publicly on the show last time and I know we've talked about it privately, why is it though that so many people cannot make The jump from the stupid decisions to their involvement in the stupid decisions.
That no matter how many times they vote in people and policies that make everything worse.
Like right now, if you and I walked out of our studios and we just started talking to people on the street and you said to people, how's it going in LA?
Everybody would say, man, it's a freaking mess.
Or if you said, how's Gavin Newsom doing?
They'd all say horrible.
There's nobody defending these people.
There's the rabid sort of crazies, but pretty much nobody else.
But why is it?
And is it just because of the weather?
It has fried all of our brains, basically.
It's nice out, so people cannot realize that the stupid, easy answers aren't the actual answers.
They have huge egos and they never want to be wrong.
So it's like a kind of a cognitive dissidence.
It's kind of like, yeah, I voted for that guy and yeah, he's doing a horrible job, but I'm going to vote for that party again because that way I'll never have to admit I was wrong.
But you are wrong because they're running the state into the ocean.
Well, sometimes they don't even say we're the party of, they just go, well, people are leaving because of over-regulation and high taxes and a bad business environment.
It's like, yes, they're leaving because of all the policies you enacted.
Well, first things first, do you get to decide who stays home?
That's your job?
Your job is I will decide when you get to leave your house.
And even if it's for spurious reasons and there is no direct correlation between any danger of spreading the disease and eating outdoors, I'm still just going to make this random decision and you shall stay home.
I mean, it's a very, it's funny.
It's a, it's a comment that kind of slid by a lot of people, but It's a very scary precedent when the powers that be are essentially saying, you're gonna stay home because I told you to stay home.
And then you go, give me proof why I should stay home.
Well, what I've realized, what has happened is California especially, Los Angeles especially, it's so over-regulated, it's so burdensome, it's so tyrannical, and its leaders are so tyrannical in terms of its burden that they put on the taxpayers, that we all got sort of indoctrinated into this slowly.
Like, imagine trying to pull this shit off in 1955.
No, but I would definitely vote for Trump over Biden.
The interesting take on it, which isn't, You know, insanely impressive in terms of the math, but sort of what Ben Shapiro is always been talking about for the last several weeks, which is it's not that the election was rigged per se by the states or the vote counters or mail-in ballots.
It's that it was essentially rigged by CNN Los Angeles Times, New York Times, most all legacy and mainstream media.
And then big tech, you know, all the Googles and the, and, and Twitter and all that, all that it was rigged by them essentially.
And if you really think about it, it's not much hyperbole.
I mean, if you think about just the Hunter Biden story, As an example, and you go, okay, and forget it's Hunter Biden and forget what the allegations are and forget anything.
Let's just be generic.
There is a story.
It's a credible story and it would hurt one candidate.
And I don't know if that means three points or seven points, or I don't know what it would translate into, but it would definitely be damaging to one of the candidates.
So in our, In our hypothetical world, there's a candidate and B candidate and B candidate would definitely be hurt by a story that comes out several days before the big election.
And then all the legacy news organizations and then, and then Silicon Valley, they all conspire to crush a story.
And are saying things like Russian disinformation or there's no proof whatsoever.
So that story never comes out.
Well, I would argue that that is tampering with the election.
It's certainly affecting the election.
I mean, I guess if you say, what's the definition of tampering with an election?
I guess the definition would be affecting the election one way or the other for this candidate or that candidate.
So they're all on board to do this.
They always do this thing.
It's funny when the smartest people in the world, the Silicon Valley guys go, oh yeah, we didn't know what was going on with that thing.
They found a laptop, had a bunch of information on it.
Might you have some follow-up questions or we just announced that's Russian disinformation.
So you had a whole group of people.
And when I say a group, I mean, most 90% of the media essentially running interference for one of the candidates and, and all the way through just, you know, the COVID vaccines never going to come out before the end of the year, et cetera.
And every single story.
Uh, yeah, that's going to translate into a few points.
Do you think there's anything left at this point in terms of mainstream media?
I think if my one takeaway probably of the year, beyond lockdowns and the way we give up freedoms and all that, but my one sort of tangible takeaway is that There's simply nothing left in mainstream media.
That doesn't mean that 100% of reporters are all bullshit artists, but I think the way they treated the Hunter Biden story, then the way we were immediately told not to look at anything related to election fraud, and if we did, we're basically Alex Jones and everything else.
To me, there's nothing left.
Washington Post, New York Times, CNN, it's just done.
Well, there's something left, but the question is, is what did they do to their brand?
So if you think about, think about what the Oscars means in 2021 versus the Oscars from our childhood.
It was, first off, it was appointment viewing, get the whole family, see who the best picture of the year, who got the, and the best picture of the year got, that was the best picture of the year, you know?
I mean, we didn't argue about it and we didn't think there was any politics involved and it just was, you know?
And by the way, you know, when you look at the ratings for these shows, you realize it ain't what it used to be by, by a long shot.
And, and I'll give you a couple examples.
So think about, The Oscars.
Think about the Emmys.
Think, think about how I did a little experiment around here.
I have young people who work for me.
I said, uh, if you heard a story out of CNN five years ago, what would you have thought?
And they went, I would have believed it.
And I'd say, what do you think now?
And they go, I'd have to go look into it.
So CNN, New York Times, all the entities you mentioned, but also Oscars, Emmys, maybe the NBA, Rotten Tomatoes!
You know, you see Hillbilly Elegy, oh, it's 24% with the critics, but 88 with the people.
Oh, what a shocker.
You know, no safe spaces is, I don't know, 44% with the critics and 90% with the people.
So, so now we no longer have to go to, we don't have to find out what the critics have to say.
on Rotten Tomatoes because it's skewed.
Everything is skewed.
And whoever wins the Oscar is gonna be, you know, oh, he's the black gay teen who's struggling with his sexuality.
Okay, I get it.
And by the way, when you do that, you are shaking hands with the devil.
You really are in terms of your brand.
The Oscars should have never let all this super woke shit in.
Because once you announce, we now need 50% people of color nominated for the best actor.
It's over.
We stop, we go, well, were they the best actors or is they just meeting a quota?
But the best part of it is they decided to put all these quotas in about, you know, skin color and sexuality.
And you know, if you're a midget or you have a lazy eye or whatever, except they said, we're not going to do it for three years.
It's so important to solve racism and sexism, but we still have some stuff in the can, so we gotta get that racist crap out of the way, and we'll do it in three years.
You mentioned no safe spaces, so I'm sure most of my audience has seen it already, but when you think back to the project, because you guys probably, you and Dennis and the team probably started working on this thing, what, like four years ago maybe, something like that?
When you think back to the project, I mean, Basically everything, and I'm not just saying it because we both happen to be in it, but everything that No Safe Spaces is about, which in essence is that all of this woke craziness from the college campus is gonna leak into real society, it's what everyone sees now.
And we were all told we were racists and bigots and the rest of it if we're talking about it.
Are you kind of, are you like impressed that we kind of called it?
Or are you depressed that we kind of called it?
Or just is what it is?
Cause we called it, we all called it.
Now everyone knows that that is the stuff that is happening everywhere right now.
Like what if, what if your kid leaves for college and then every one of their professors is a vegan and then they're teaching classes on meat is murder.
Don't tell your chef husband cause he makes a, Delectable Wagyu, I think we have.
By the way, did I hear correctly on your podcast, I think the day or two after you came over here for dinner, I think you said it was the best steak you ever had.
How long before your kids starts coming home for Thanksgiving and saying no thanks to the turkey because meat is murder.
And then when those kids in their vegan environment get pushed out into Main Street and Madison Avenue
and start showing up at corporations, how long before they start judging people
for eating a ham sandwich and how could it go any other way?
Of course it's gonna go that way.
I mean, you go to this place where a bunch of ideology is taught to you
and then the construct or at least college is basically there to,
I mean, if you think about What is the mission statement for a college?
Well, you go to this place for four years, we teach you a bunch of stuff, and then you take that with you into society, right?
Well, we just thought it was gonna be a bunch of engineering and calculus and art history.
We didn't know it was gonna be an indoctrination to a bunch of ideas, but it is.
And I would argue those ideas are more powerful than engineering are because you can't just walk into your, new job at Kinko's and start talking to everyone
about structural engineering or shear loads or tension anchors or something,
they're not gonna, it's not gonna take, but if you start talking to everyone about your ideology,
then it's gonna spread and that's exactly where we're living.
So how do you make sure your kids, they're not college age yet,
but how do you make sure that they're not getting infected Because from everyone that I know that's a parent in this town, even if they're going to the most elite private school, people that are even in religious private schools, I'm talking Catholic schools, Orthodox Jewish schools, like the woke-ism has now infected virtually everything.
I'll be in Houston by the time that you know, the, I don't think, see, I don't think you should wrestle with them over ideas.
Um, it's going to have an effect.
Um, my son is, um, very conservative.
He's a Dave Rubin fan.
He's a Dennis Prager fan.
He's a Ben Shapiro fan.
He loves all that stuff.
I didn't have to wrestle with him over ideas.
My daughter's very progressive.
The reason my daughter's very progressive is because she wants to be liked.
And my son doesn't really care.
He's just a doofus dude.
But my daughter, wants to be popular, you know, and if you want to be popular, you better be down with Black Lives Matter.
My feeling with kids is you shouldn't really get preachy with them, but you definitely need to lead by example.
Like you just go, here's what I do.
Like almost every time I go to work, I just go, I'm going to work today because that's what I do.
And I would do things like when I would go out on a Friday night to the comedy store and do a set, I would go to my son, I would go to my daughter, and I'd go, okay, it's eight o'clock, and I'm going to, from La Cañada to Hollywood, to Sunset Strip, and I'm gonna go there, and I'll be back at 11, and I'm not getting paid.
I'm doing this for free.
I'm doing this to get better at what I do.
That's what I'm doing.
And I would leave.
And I just would imprint in them that there's no shortcuts, it's hard work, Lead by example.
And you know, I don't know that you're gonna be able to talk them, I don't think you can talk them out of anything.
No, my daughter, I was just out, took her and her friends out driving the other night.
They understand who I am on a sort of human level.
They understand I'm a good guy.
They understand I'm like a fun dad, and I provide a lot of stuff, and we get to do lots of fun stuff because of me.
And, you know, I'm sure if we ever sat down and really got into a political conversation, we'd end in a huge argument, as my son and my daughter frequently do.
But, no, I think it's important, and I feel this way about relationships that I've had in Hollywood.
They need to know who you are.
They need to know that you're a good person, that you're family oriented, that you pay your taxes.
Like, they need to understand, because we all know it's just a big smear campaign, right?
Racist, sexist, whatever.
You disagree with someone on the left and it's because you're homophobic or xenophobic or whatever, misogynistic.
It's hard.
It's really harder when they have to argue with a human being.
You know, when the conceit is That's a good person.
He loves his family and he's a good citizen.
And now we're just left with what we agree and disagree on, you know?
So I think you can sort of have that with your kids.
Like I really feel like they need to, you can't tell them don't smoke while you're smoking.
So kind of tying that to the political part of it.
I mean, we don't have much of that.
We're being told right now, if you listen to the media and the Biden thing, like now's the time for us to come together.
No more of the meanness.
I'm a president for everybody, all that stuff.
It strikes me as very fake because all of these people, the media, all the Democrats, basically the establishment, if Trump had won, and by the way, I'm still not convinced this thing is over, Which I'd love to hear your thoughts on as well.
But if it was reversed, if Trump had just won on November 3rd, they'd all be screaming, burn it all down.
But now there's sort of this fake, like, oh, let's kind of be friends thing.
Do you think there's any authenticity there?
Or even any value to it?
It doesn't seem valuable to me.
Like, oh, you got what you want.
You're the child who got the cookie.
So now we can be friends again.
But if it had gone the other way, no, no, no, no, no.
I do think there's way too much and a lot of it was just a way to attack Trump.
It's like, he sets the tempo for the country, you know, like people rely, you know, like, it's like when, you know, it's like he told everyone to inject bleach into their veins.
So do you think we're irreparably Broken right now?
Like, I don't know anyone, truly, I don't think I know anyone that supported Trump that fully thinks that this thing was legit.
And if that's the case, regardless of who's sworn in on the 20th, I mean, we've got, like, a seriously broken system.
Even me, like, my faith in the system is seriously broken right now.
Which makes it hard in a way to be someone that communicates ideas the way that we do, because I'm trying to be honest with my audience and my faith in the things that we talk about is shaken.
Well, I think in terms of how it manifests itself, and maybe this just sounds, you know, self-congratulatory or something, but if you take a look at The physical manifestation of unrest, you know, and you take a look at Antifa and Black Lives Matters and all that kind of stuff, they're out in the street, they're lighting stuff on fire, they're looting, they're accosting elderly couples that are eating outside and drinking their wine and dumping it on their head and everything.
That's basically how they act when they don't get their way.
The right and the conservatives don't act that way when they don't get their way.
They're probably equally as unhappy about it, but it doesn't really manifest.
And all the assholes are like, well, what about the Klan?
Or what about the Proud Boys?
There's 10 of them.
When's the last time you saw the Klan take over a city and have the cops stand down and burn everything down and loot everything?
So I think that the conservatives who, you know, by nature, just more, they're more conservative.
They're not as impulsive.
You know, they're not going to go out and start burning things.
I think they're going to be unhappy.
They're going to feel like they got jobbed in this last election.
They're probably going to sit back and laugh a little as the Democrats start with the infighting and the AOC side of it starts getting into it with the Biden side of it.
And they're going to watch him kind of crash and burn.
And then it's going to be real easy to get a Dan Crenshaw type in again, or there's a host of You know, strong candidates on the right, and it'll just set the table to repeat what just happened four years ago.
Do you think it's kind of funny that maybe 15 years ago when you were doing love lines and doing the man show and everything else, that you would end up talking about politics as much as you do?
I know you talk about everything, but like, everything is now politics in a weird way.
I always wanted to kind of do something a little different than I did the year before and kind of evolve a little bit.
Um, also there's an interesting phenomenon, which is when people say you've changed, you know, to me, you know, I say to them, Name me one thing that I've changed my mind on since I was on Loveline 25 years ago.
You name me one thing.
If you'd asked me about border security, I would've been for it.
If you'd asked me about gay marriage, I would've been for it.
If you would've asked me about decriminalizing pot, I would've been for it.
If you would've asked me about voter ID, I would've been for it.
If you asked me about lowering taxes, I would've been for it.
All right, let's talk about something really political then, because how many books have you written?
Is it four?
I feel like it's five.
You've written five books, and as far as I know, according to my research here, three of your books have made the New York Times bestseller list, but your last book, Adam Carolla, did not make it.
But we know that the New York Times bestseller list is a crock of shit.
It's kind of weird when you see that you outsold a bunch of books that are on the list.
And when you look at the title of the book, You know, all something to do with race, all something to do with gender, all something that whatever, um, then you understand.
And it's a little frustrating momentarily cause you go, Oh, we should be on the New York times bestseller list.
But you also, and a good example of somebody who's diluted their brand, they've, they've, they've compromised their brand, New York times bestseller list.
Oscars, Rotten Tomatoes, you know, they've diluted it.
They're hurting their brand.
If I now hear a book is on the New York Times bestseller list, or more importantly, didn't make it on the New York Times bestseller list, I got questions.
I never would have had questions 15 years ago, which has been, well, that one book sold more than the other book.
That would have been it.
Zero questions.
I have questions.
And that's what they've done.
And I don't think they know the kind of long-term damage that they're doing to their brand.
Again, New York Times bestseller list, that's a huge brand.
Oscars, huge brand.
But if it was a stock, you would see the arrow heading down over the last 10 years.
You know, it's funny, when my book was coming out in April, and everybody kept, you know, all the publishers, agents, everybody, oh, we're getting, we wanna get you on the New York Times bestseller list, we want you on the New York Times bestseller list, and I kept saying to everybody, but you're all telling me it's fixed, that the whole thing's fixed, but you wanna get on it, you wanna get on the fixed list, and it's like, we're all running for something that kinda doesn't exist in a weird way, and I thought, well, if that, if they mess with their lists that should be about just sales, right, a sale, you know, the top lists, It's like, well, it kind of tells you what they're doing on the editorial pages as well, or on the news pages as well.
And again, you know, the part, the only part that frustrates me, and you know, you're talking to a guy who's made a bunch of movies that were very well received and none of them have gotten into Sundance, none of them.
And the, you know, again, if you look at the people on Rotten Tomatoes, you'll see a hundred percent, 95%, very good doc.
I mean, I have three of these docs on Netflix right now.
Netflix bought all three of these documentaries.
Certainly good enough to make the cut at Sundance.
None of them will get, have gotten into Sundance and nor shall any doc I ever make get into Sundance.
And the part that frustrates me, whether it be getting into Sundance
or the New York Times bestseller list is that people don't know what's going on.
The people, general society is like, "Well, if you didn't get into Sundance,
"make a better film next time."
You don't get it.
There is no Sundance for me.
There is no New York Times bestseller list for me.
There is none of that for me.
It's never gonna happen.
And you guys think it's about the quality of the product.
Well, there's gonna be, and you know, parlor and places like that.
I mean, it's going to happen.
I mean, if you take a look, you know, it was funny about two years ago, If you looked at the iTunes charts, one through 50, there was no conservative shows, podcasts on there, maybe Shapiro.
But I mean, really nothing else.
You go look now, there's 10.
They created that.
They actually, the mainstream media and all these places, they're the best thing that ever happened to Dan Bongino, right?
Or Carly Kirk or whomever, right?
They created their business.
through trying to suppress all these ideas.
And so there will be a new New York Times bestseller list or a new, you know, Sundance or whatever, or the whole thing will just be antiquated and no one will care anymore.
Like, who cares if you've gotten to this film festival or not?
And if you get your stuff to enough of your audience, then that's probably good enough.
That's probably it.
So as we enter the final stages, the final last few days of this 2020, and we roll into Christmas, what else is on your mind at the moment?
Like, what else are you thinking about that, you know, not this sort of day-to-day stuff that we're talking about in the political, and it's like, what else has just been sort of interesting to you lately?
I've been really kind of drilling down and speaking to Dr. Drew quite frequently about people's reaction to this pandemic and what colossal cowards so many people have turned into and why is this soil so fertile for these cowards and what's really going on?
And something I've really been thinking about is risk and then risk assessment.
And I started to think about all the guys I work with, and I work with a lot of guys restoring cars and building houses doing so.
Half my life is creative and the other half is kind of blue collar.
I noticed that the blue collar guys were always very even.
They're not worried about it.
As a matter of fact, I don't think I've ever discussed COVID with any of the guys in my shop.
They're literally not interested.
They just get up and go to work.
And then I started thinking about their relationship with risk is, is very finely tuned because if you're going to fire up a lathe and put a ingot of aluminum on it, you got to start taking a sharp knife to it.
a chisel to it or something, you better have your relationship figured out with danger.
And also what, what things, so when you work construction and work carpentry,
you have to pick up a tool and the tool's got a blade on it and you got to use it,
but you have to use it in such a way where you're safe, but you still have to get the job done.
And so there's a constant calibration going on, like, because you're going to lose a finger
or you're going to lose an arm or you're going to lose your life if you don't really
get this relationship worked out with danger.
So I don't think loggers are nearly as scared of COVID.
As guys who do data entry, because when you then get into this air conditioned cubicle, you no longer have to assess risk.
You don't have, you know, if you're a window washer or roofer or whatever, like if you do what we used to do, when, uh, when a huge percentage of society would go to a factory or go to the saw mill or go to the lumber yard or do whatever it is, this sort of blue collar, tangible hands-on job.
It's constant risk assessment.
It's just, can this scaffolding hold me?
Cause I'm going up to the third floor.
It's just, it's a constant thing.
And you're not aware of it.
It's just, your brain is constantly wearing it.
So when you see COVID, those guys have assessed the risk and it's minimal.
All the people that are sitting around watching CNN all day on a Zoom call are not calibrated.
So they're all inflated.
And the more of our society that kind of gets off the construction site and gets off, you know, think about when you work on a farm.
Every second is some sort of risk assessment, right?
All the equipment you're dealing with and whatnot.
The more of our society that moves into the digital world, The more difficulty we're gonna have assessing risk, and that's what we're living right now.
Anyone listening, you cannot just reside in the digital world.
You will go insane.
You will lose your bearings.
You must get something tangible in your life.
I don't care if it's gardening.
I don't care if it's crocheting.
Get down to the garage and start a project.
Put a patio, put a pergola on your home.
You have a beautiful pergola in the back of your home, Dave.
Go out there, physically get your hands dirty.
If you're just going to go down the, I'm going to watch CNN and order Grubhub all day, you will go insane.
And you see it all over the place.
You see these middle-aged people like spazzing out on other people who aren't wearing a mask, walking alone on a horse trail.
They can't assess risk.
It's the death of math.
You need to put yourself in some vulnerable positions.
If something scares you a little bit, you got to go do it.
Go go out whitewater rafting or something.
You have to get outside.
You have to get in a tangible world and you have to have projects.
And by the way, once you have a project, like a tangible project, then you're in problem solving mode.
Your brain is occupied.
You're not thinking about global warming.
You're not thinking, you're trying to solve problems on a micro level, not a macro level, trying to solve world hunger or systemic racism or global warming.
You will slowly go insane because you can, there's no finish line.
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