March 11, 2020 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| All right, good people of the internet. | ||
| We're doing an impromptu live stream today. | ||
| And the reason we're doing that is yesterday, something pretty bizarre, I guess, if these were normal political times happened, but sorta, kinda obvious in these wacky times we're in. | ||
| And also kind of inspiring, actually, happened yesterday. | ||
| So before I introduce my guest, I wanna play, it's about a two and a half minute clip, Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee for president, he was at the Fiat Chrysler plant in Detroit yesterday meeting with union workers and guys that work over at the factory over there. | ||
| And then something happened. | ||
| So let's take a look. | ||
| You're full of shit. | ||
| that have been working countless hours under the Trump administration. | ||
| I'd like you to explain how you plan to not only keep us working, | ||
| but how you intend on getting the union vote when there is a large portion of the union workers | ||
| that are gun enthusiasts and you are actively trying to diminish your Second Amendment right | ||
| and take away our guns. You're full of shit. All right, thank you guys. | ||
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I support the Second Amendment. | |
| The Second Amendment, just like right now, if you yell fire, that's not free speech. | ||
| From the very beginning, I have a shotgun, I have a 20-gauge, a 12-gauge, my son's hunt, guess what? | ||
| You're not allowed to own any weapon. | ||
| I'm not taking your gun away. | ||
| At all. | ||
| You need 100 rounds in your... No. | ||
| I did not say that. | ||
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unidentified
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That's not... I did not say that. | |
| It's a viral video. | ||
| It's a viral video like the other ones they're putting out that are simply a lie. | ||
| It was from your voice. | ||
| You said that you're taking the gun... Oh, he just clarified it. | ||
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unidentified
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. | |
| Take your AR-14s and... Okay, this is not okay. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
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unidentified
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There's a lot of guys. | |
| No, it's not. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, do you need 100 rounds? | |
| Do you need 100 rounds? | ||
| Thank you, thank you. | ||
| That's enough. | ||
| There are jets in America from handguns and there are what you call assault rifles. | ||
| Why are you advocating for assault rifles when people are gunning at handguns? | ||
| All right, guys, so the brave guy that is talking to Joe Biden right there | ||
| and speaking to him quite respectfully, actually, and bringing up completely legitimate points | ||
| and actually quoting Joe Biden is a guy by the name of Jerry Wayne, | ||
| and I've got Jerry Wayne on the Skype right now. | ||
| Jerry, are you there? | ||
| Yeah, how you doing? | ||
| I'm doing all right, man. | ||
| First off, you're killing it in the beer game right now. | ||
| The beer is unbelievable. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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Appreciate it. | |
| All right, man. | ||
| So tell me just how this whole thing transpired before we even get into the specifics of what was said. | ||
| When did you find out that Biden was coming? | ||
| When did you decide that you wanted to ask him something? | ||
| Was it all just kind of chaos? | ||
| Just lay out the beginnings of all this. | ||
| Well, we start work at 7 a.m. | ||
| and they announced that he was going to be stopping in in a couple hours. | ||
| We all went to work and I just kept having things go off in my head of questions. | ||
| I didn't think it was going to be a questionnaire, but I didn't want to show up and not be prepared. | ||
| And once he did show up and started going around shaking hands and stuff like that, he made his way to me. | ||
| And I saw my opportunity to ask him a question and then everything that you saw transpired. | ||
| Were you kind of shocked that he was so initially aggravated with you or combative? | ||
| Yeah, I was. | ||
| I wasn't expecting that reaction right off the bat. | ||
| I kind of expected that politician type of roundabout. | ||
| And he came out with just straight up blunt force. | ||
| And I think that his advisor next to him, I assume that's what she was, told him to stop and he shushed her and just started to dig his own hole. | ||
| So before he shushed her, which was kind of interesting and dismissive, he immediately said, you're full of shit. | ||
| I mean, you couldn't have been expecting that one. | ||
| I wasn't at all, but I do do construction, and so I hear that all the time, so I can't say it was like a complete and utter shock, because to be honest with you, I'm an American citizen, and I don't see politicians as if they're above me. | ||
| I don't think a lot of people see it that way, but I'm not one of them. | ||
| They work for us, and I think a lot of people need to realize that. | ||
| Yeah, when you said that to him towards the end there, you work for me, man, and he completely dismissed that too. | ||
| Like, is that just why everybody hates politicians right now? | ||
| I think people don't like politicians because they feel as if that we work for them. | ||
| I think that's the way America's looking at things now, and that needs to change. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you happen to notice, this is a little technical, but, you know, the fire in a crowded theater line that he said, it's actually technically not true. | ||
| You can yell fire in a crowded theater. | ||
| A lot of people are confused by this. | ||
| I've been confused over the years. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You can't do it with the intent to basically start a riot or instigate people. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yes. | ||
| You can, just for all the children out there, it's okay to yell fire if there's an actual fire as well. | ||
| Yes, if there's an actual fire, you gotta do it. | ||
| So as all this is happening, how nervous or not nervous were you? | ||
| I mean, this guy wants to be the most powerful man in the world, and you were right up in his face. | ||
| He does. | ||
| He wants to be the most powerful man in the world, and maybe that might not be his intention. | ||
| Maybe he does, in his own mind, want to do some good for the world, which is great. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I think every politician needs to be reminded that America is the strength, not the individual. | ||
| I kind of sense from the few minutes that we spoke earlier this morning, when I had to verify it was you after you emailed me and I was like, all right, well, you know, I can't just put this guy on. | ||
| I got to make sure it's the same guy. | ||
| I sense you've kind of been ready to get your voice out there. | ||
| Like you don't, you don't seem nervous now. | ||
| You, you seem like a clear thinker. | ||
| I saw you this morning on Fox and Friends. | ||
| You mentioned Jordan Peterson. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I'm quite a big Jordan Peterson fan. | ||
| I know not everybody may be, but I am. | ||
| I think that he's an intellectual, and I think he's one of the greatest minds of our generation. | ||
| Well, this generation, not mine. | ||
| But he's a very smart man and intellectual, and he knows how to put thoughts and theories together in a very nice way. | ||
| So, after the whole thing goes down, you guys have your little brouhaha, did you immediately go, oh shit, this thing's gonna go viral, or you must have seen all the cameras there and the rest of it? | ||
| I did. | ||
| Well, I mean, like, I kind of had a hunch that something would happen, you know, like, because, like, it's media and things are, you know, blown up, but then, as well, I thought, like, it was just a confrontation. | ||
| I'm just a, I'm just a guy. | ||
| I didn't think that this would be blown into such big proportion. | ||
| I mean, there's, it's on the cover pages everywhere and stuff, and I had no idea this was transpiring while I was going through work. | ||
| I had some inklings of things, like, hey, man, like, something's going big, but I don't have a service at work or anything like that, and when I get out of work, by God, it, It definitely went to the ceiling, for sure. | ||
| What were your guys saying to you after? | ||
| Were people impressed by what you did? | ||
| Were people pissed? | ||
| Did they think you were being disrespectful? | ||
| I definitely had a mixture, for sure. | ||
| I don't think everybody... Some people knew I was going to try to ask a question, and they tried talking me out of it. | ||
| But I'm an individual. | ||
| I'm an individual thinker. | ||
| I'm an individual mind. | ||
| I'm going to do what I think is right. | ||
| And I wanted to He came there because he's a Democrat, and there's a lot of unions there. | ||
| And usually the union goes Democratic. | ||
| And by the way, in no way, shape, or form am I a representative for any union whatsoever. | ||
| I'm an individual thinker. | ||
| And I think that he wanted to show there on election day, and he wanted to wave to everybody, show, hey, look, I showed face, go vote for me and get out of there. | ||
| But I don't think he was ready for an intellectual question. | ||
| When he said take it outside, I mean, What were you thinking? | ||
| Oh, that wouldn't be the first time somebody said that to me. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| He said it and the thing is that I think that's something small he was trying to get me to grab onto to make me look like I'm the bad guy. | ||
| And that's not why I was there. | ||
| I was there to make a point to the president He doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to firearms. | ||
| president, excuse me, the presidential candidate, that he doesn't know what he's talking about | ||
| when it comes to firearms. | ||
| And I think I proved that point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when he even said to you that, no, I never said that. | ||
| Now you were referring to when he said to Beto, oh, you're going to handle guns for me. | ||
| We all saw the video. | ||
| You said to him, no, it's not edited video. | ||
| It's your own words. | ||
| And he just basically flat out says, no, I didn't say it. | ||
| I mean, it's almost like truth just doesn't bust through to these people. | ||
| No, not, well, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm citing for what these people are that people are like that. | ||
| I, the way I look at it as a, I had a conversation with a different individual. | ||
| He just so happens to be trying to run for the President of the United States. | ||
| He's my peer. He is not my superior. | ||
| And I spoke to him on an individual level, eye to eye, and I wanted to call him out on something. | ||
| But the thing is, is that that wasn't the only question I asked. | ||
| I was actually worried about how he was going to contribute to our work. | ||
| We're working very well right now. | ||
| We have countless hours that we're obtaining, and we're doing very well for ourselves. | ||
| And he wants to come in there, and he wants to make it to where unions are better. | ||
| I want unions to be better as well, but what is he going to do? | ||
| I want to know, what is he going to change that makes our lives better? | ||
| And he failed to answer that as well. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Can you tell me a little bit more about just what you specifically do? | ||
| I'm a millwright by trade. | ||
| It's a rotating equipment. | ||
| We just work on pretty much all types of machinery and things of that nature. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where do you fall politically? | ||
| It's sort of irrelevant to all of this, but I think it's sort of interesting, just generally speaking. | ||
| I know there's like a lot of different parties right now. | ||
| I don't think I fall under anyone individually. | ||
| I'm a lover. | ||
| And I think that there needs to be a new political party. | ||
| And it's that thin line. | ||
| I think that we need to come together. | ||
| And I'm not going to go left. | ||
| I'm not going to go right. | ||
| I'm American. | ||
| That's my party. | ||
| I love that, man. | ||
| You're speaking my language. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Has anyone else reached out to you? | ||
| I mean, I know you're on Fox & Friends this morning. | ||
| I think you're going to be on Hannity this evening. | ||
| I was supposed to be on tonight, too, by coincidence. | ||
| They just booted me for coronavirus, but I hope you're going to still be on there. | ||
| They're not putting me on above you. | ||
| They booted me, too. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, I'm in good company. | ||
| I don't know about you. | ||
| But I'm curious because if you look at the way this is tracking on Twitter, it seemed like it was all sort of conservatives or people on the right that were making a big deal about this. | ||
| And I saw basically some people on the left and mainstream people kind of defending Biden as if you were, you know, being rude or something like that. | ||
| But I'm wondering, in terms of the media that's reaching out to you, because this obviously broke through to the mainstream, is it only Fox and me? | ||
| I mean, has CNN reached out to you? | ||
| Has MSNBC? | ||
| Anyone? | ||
| Mainstream? | ||
| Yeah, I have had some people reach out to me, but I tell you what, I've had so many inquiries, it's very hard to keep up with everything. | ||
| And hopefully I can use your platform to say this. | ||
| Some people I just, I tried to get back and it just, There's a lot going on right now. | ||
| I'm not used to this, this limelight. | ||
| And I'm just, I'm trying to do whatever I can to, uh, move the country forward. | ||
| Um, I, that's not my responsibility from what I see, but it seems that a lot of people are wanting me to be a voice and I want to be a voice for the American people if they want me to do it. | ||
| Yeah, I love that answer, man. | ||
| And I know you told me before that you watch the show and it's like, I've sat across from a lot of people who didn't necessarily want to get into the fight, but suddenly the fight kind of came to them from James Damore and Brett Weinstein and Lindsey Shepard and a whole slew of people. | ||
| And I just get the vibe from you like you're ready to get in. | ||
| Um, I, I'm ready to do What the American people want. | ||
| I'm just here to say what the American people want to say. | ||
| And I think that on, I don't speak for either side, but I do believe that both sides want a middle ground. | ||
| I believe that that's what the American needs more than anything. | ||
| And, uh, yeah, I, I, I'm a gun guy. | ||
| I am. | ||
| And I think that, uh, I think that gun safety starts at home and I think that we shouldn't be looking away from this and trying to take, let me give an example. | ||
| I train dogs on the side. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| I'm not trying to compare dogs to humans in any sense, but if a dog chews things, and you come home, and you just cage that dog so it doesn't chew things, that dog still wants to chew things. | ||
| You didn't fix that dog's issue. | ||
| You just put a band-aid on it. | ||
| And by going with humans, if you end up taking the guns, you didn't fix the issue, the underlying problem of committing murder. | ||
| You just took away an object. | ||
| That's all you did. | ||
| So let's get to the underlying issue here and let's fix what's actually broken. | ||
| And that is the way people are brought up and the way people are treating each other. | ||
| I'm with you, man. | ||
| You're preaching it because that's it. | ||
| It's the psychological stuff. | ||
| It's the societal stuff, the cultural stuff, the gun, the AR-14, as he called it. | ||
| Yeah, AR-14. | ||
| The AR-14 is just the tool, really, more than anything else. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Well, I don't even think that's the tool. | ||
| If he was so adamant of saving American lives, he'd be going after handguns. | ||
| That's really what his goal was. | ||
| But they don't want to look at that. | ||
| They don't want to look at the facts. | ||
| I shouldn't say they, I should say he. | ||
| He doesn't want to look at the facts. | ||
| And the facts are, that's what kills people. | ||
| And he... Excuse me, I'm losing my train of thought here. | ||
| No, please go ahead. | ||
| Here, I'll bring you back around using a segue here. | ||
| Watch, this is a professional segue. | ||
| You know, there's a lot of talk right now about Biden's cognitive stuff and that he's bumbling and fumbling and forgetting what he's saying and the rest of it. | ||
| As someone that stood, you know, six inches away with his finger right in your face, you know, guy wants to be the most powerful man in the world. | ||
| Did you sense any of that? | ||
| I know you're not a doctor or anything. | ||
| Did I sense what exactly? | ||
| That something maybe is not quite right. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Hell of a segue. | ||
| Um, yeah. | ||
| Um, I, I don't think I, I, I'm not a doctor and I, uh, I'm going to respectfully, uh, not speak on that. | ||
| I don't want to say anything that I, uh, yeah, that I'm going to shoot myself in the foot with that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not a doctor and that's the first time I met him. | ||
| I don't know how he was 15 years ago in a personal sense and compared to now. | ||
| Totally fair answer, man. | ||
| I appreciate the honesty. | ||
| You are ready to roll in this bigger world, I can sense. | ||
| Is there anything else you wanna share? | ||
| You got a lot of people that are gonna know you now from this, from what happened yesterday. | ||
| Anything else you want people to know about you, what you do, the union situation, guns, really anything. | ||
| Take the floor, man. | ||
| For a minute, I didn't wanna speak on this. | ||
| I think I might want to now. | ||
| I've been a union guy for about 11 years now. | ||
| Got it when I was 18 years old and very active Union member, I've had some ups and I've had some downs. | ||
| My dues are on time. | ||
| And, uh, I want to let the union, the regular union worker know that you have an individual mind and you can make up your mind. | ||
| Your union does not make up your mind. | ||
| You make up your union. | ||
| And people need to realize that. | ||
| If you want to be Democrat, Republican, left, right, center, it doesn't matter. | ||
| You make up your own mind. | ||
| They work for you. | ||
| You do not work for them. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Well, listen to this. | ||
| I want to pay it forward a little bit, because I think what you did yesterday was seriously brave, and we need more people like you out there. | ||
| So my tour is going to have a Detroit stop. | ||
| I think it's May 10th or 12th. | ||
| I'm forgetting off the top of my head. | ||
| I believe it's at the Fillmore. | ||
| I want to give you and your girlfriend free VIP tickets. | ||
| Come backstage. | ||
| You want to come on stage with me? | ||
| We'll do something? | ||
| I would love to, that'd be great. | ||
| All right, I'm going to bring you up on stage. | ||
| And listen, any of your guys that were there yesterday or any of your buddies that want to come, if they just get a regular ticket, we'll upgrade everybody for VIP. | ||
| I'd love to just shake all their hands. | ||
| And maybe I can come to my factory and see what's going on. | ||
| We might film more, man. | ||
| Dude, let's fill the Fillmore, why not, right? | ||
| I got a lot of friends now. | ||
| Oh, actually, I did want to ask you one other thing related to that. | ||
| Are you shocked at any of the hate you're getting? | ||
| I hate to end there, so I'll ask you one other thing after, but you mentioned to me you're getting some hate. | ||
| Yeah, I'm getting some hate on social media for sure, but I think that whenever you're in the limelight, you can't make everybody happy. | ||
| But what you can do is you can follow your soul, you can follow your intuition, and if you're leading that right, You're going to go down the right path. | ||
| And, uh, I can't make everybody happy. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| And that's not, nor is that my job. | ||
| I feel as if it's my purpose to, uh, to share my perspective on things. | ||
| Um, I'm not the brightest guy. | ||
| I'm not, like, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but, uh, I try and I care about this country very much. | ||
| And I want to bring this country together. | ||
| And if I'm the first drop of glue that has to let that happen, I'll be that drop. | ||
| Listen, man, it's an honor truly talking to you. | ||
| I think you're the real deal. | ||
| I think you're ready. | ||
| I think this is just the beginning. | ||
| I'm gonna send this video to Jordan myself, so he will see this. | ||
| I promise you that. | ||
| And anything I can do for you, and I'll see you in Detroit. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I appreciate your time. | ||
| All right, thanks, man. | ||
| Good luck with everything, Jerry. | ||
| Yeah, thank you. | ||
| All right, bye-bye. | ||
| See ya. | ||
| All right, guys. | ||
| I don't even have, how could I add anything to that? | ||
| I mean, that's it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I appreciate it, man. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are we still live streaming? | ||
| We're still livestreaming. | ||
| There's truly nothing I can add to that. | ||
| That was just real deal, a human who just kinda stepped into something and seems to be ready to keep going. | ||
| So I have nothing to add to it. | ||
| His name's Jerry Wayne. | ||
| It was at the Fiat Chrysler facility in Detroit. | ||
| Sorry, if I'm speaking a little slow, I'm getting a little feedback on my earpiece here. | ||
| We're gonna work on that. | ||
| But anyway, I think he's on Twitter now. | ||
| I'm gonna tweet out his ad handle so you can give him a follow. | ||
| The games continue, everybody. |
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