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Democratic Debate January: Dave Rubin Reaction with Bridget Phetasy LIVE! | POLITICS | Rubin Report
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unidentified
Alright people, we did it!
dave rubin
Yeah, if you're watching this, you most likely just survived two hours of six white people talking during the Democratic debate.
I'm Dave Rubin.
I've got Bridget Phetasy, and this is my first ever, our first ever post-debate livestream.
Oh, wow.
We've never done this before.
I didn't know that.
CNN and MSNBC and Fox, when they do this, it costs them millions of dollars.
They bring in 50 analysts, people who got everything wrong last election.
That's the best way to become an analyst.
If you get everything wrong each year, they keep bringing you back.
bridget phetasy
I was right last election.
dave rubin
You were pretty much right last election.
That's why we're doing it all different here.
I don't bring in 80 heads to have.
I bring in one person who knows everything about everything.
And we're gonna talk about what we just saw.
Now, I should be honest with people.
I did have a little wine during the debate.
You do not drink, though.
bridget phetasy
No, no, I'm high on life.
dave rubin
You're just high on life.
bridget phetasy
I'm high on the debate.
dave rubin
So here's what we're gonna do, people.
I'm gonna talk to that camera for just a sec.
So first off, we are taking your questions.
So if you go to RubinReport.com or if you have the Rubin Report app, The Apple iOS app or the Google Play, the Android app.
You can submit questions right now.
We already have, I mean, we have literally like, I don't know, easily a hundred questions already.
And we're just going to kind of share our thoughts on that thing.
Bridget's kind of similar to me in that she, well, can I say you're a former lefty or you're, you're mostly a lefty or mostly someone that thought they were a Democrat or?
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I was a registered Democrat my whole life until I became registered independent.
But I would say I was also like a leftist in my 20s.
unidentified
Right, so most of these people... Can we say lib chard?
dave rubin
You were a lib chard.
I was a lib chard.
So most of these people are the types of people that you would have been voting for and into the ideas that they're tossing out there.
bridget phetasy
I don't know that I was paying much attention to their ideas.
I just voted Democrat.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
And I didn't really watch the debates.
I never knew there were this many debates.
dave rubin
There's a lot of debates.
bridget phetasy
People tuning in right now are like, why is this girl on there?
Never watch it.
I feel like there's so many debates.
Were there always this many?
dave rubin
Yeah, there's always this many, but it seems like it's getting longer and longer and longer.
bridget phetasy
I just think it's always a presidential election season now, year-round, all the time.
dave rubin
Well, isn't it crazy?
Just that, the fact that Trump just became president, doesn't it feel like that just happened?
How was that three years ago already?
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
And it just flashed forward, and we've already been talking about this election for six months.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
dave rubin
And this election, by the way, isn't for another 10 months from now or nine months from now.
bridget phetasy
Please don't remember.
dave rubin
May God have mercy on our souls.
bridget phetasy
We're gonna make it.
dave rubin
Are we gonna make it?
bridget phetasy
We're gonna make it by doing this.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
I think that, you know, there's people that can go to, like, the professionals for their, for the analysts and all that.
dave rubin
The professionals.
bridget phetasy
The professionals.
dave rubin
They're always wrong, though.
They're wrong about everything all the time.
bridget phetasy
So if you're gonna listen to someone guesstimating, listen to...
People who know nothing who want to make fun of it all.
dave rubin
Yeah, well, you could literally, anyone that's watching this right now, you could put on MSNBC, right?
And you can literally watch Rachel Maddow, who for three years screamed about a Russian collusion hoax that turned out to be nothing.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I feel like you can put them on any of the corporate media.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Anyone, really.
dave rubin
They're just...
Terrible.
All right, but let's talk about these six people that were up there.
All white!
All white people, except for Elizabeth Warren, who is one 1,024th Native American.
Thank God.
bridget phetasy
Have they called her out on that?
In the debates, has anyone...
dave rubin
They've sort of given up on it at this point.
bridget phetasy
They just ignored it?
But no one in the debate has pushed her on that.
dave rubin
I don't think in any of the debates it was brought up directly.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I haven't seen it.
I'm not sure if that's true or not, but I don't recall that happening yet.
Which is interesting, you would think.
Someone might say, hey, you lied about being Native American.
dave rubin
Lied about being Native American to get a job also, you know what I mean?
So she actually stopped a Native American person from getting into a job.
This is the same woman who also, she demands that, you know, other people's children go to public school with no school choice and no charter schools.
And, you know, she, you're not going to believe this, but her kids go to Private school.
bridget phetasy
Oh, really?
dave rubin
$30,000-$40,000 a year.
bridget phetasy
This is like my neighborhood in L.A.
It's all the, like, coexist bumper stickers.
They don't mean it.
dave rubin
They mean coexist in different places.
bridget phetasy
Well, and then they recently wanted to build a place that had housing for, like, people who are in sex, whatever it is, like, government.
dave rubin
Low-income housing.
bridget phetasy
Low-income housing.
And they all boycotted it.
dave rubin
That's what they do.
Well, it's NIMBY, not in my backyard.
Not in my backyard.
I want homeless shelters, not in my backyard.
Especially in L.A., it's like, throw them in the valley.
Strange, there's no homeless shelters in Beverly Hills.
Isn't that bizarre?
bridget phetasy
I think they just basically forced them to let them build the rail through Beverly Hills.
Because they wouldn't even let them build the rail.
dave rubin
Literally to show what hypocrites Hollywood, this whole town really is, that is not a joke what you're saying.
There's no public transportation, no rail, no train that will get you to Beverly Hills because basically the rich people didn't want all the poor people to be able to get there, even though they work for them, right?
They're the gardeners and the plumbers and all that.
They didn't want them to be able to get there on public transportation, which is such a Perfect example.
bridget phetasy
And I don't think there's any statistical basis for that fear either.
I think it's been pretty thoroughly debunked that crime increases because of public transportation.
dave rubin
Like if someone wants to rob you, they'll get there.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
You know what I mean?
They're not going to wait for the bus.
How many people rob a house and then get on a bus?
bridget phetasy
No one!
unidentified
No one's getting on a bus!
What do you do while I'm waiting for the M17?
bridget phetasy
All the big robberies that have happened on West L.A., they're all getting into SUVs when they're done.
unidentified
They're not jumping on the rail.
dave rubin
Before we go too far into L.A.
crime rates, the fact that it's six white people I know that you don't care about it.
I don't care about it.
I don't care about whether someone's gay or black or Asian or has a limp or a lazy eye or a stiff back or any of these things.
I care about their ideas.
Now, pretty much all those people have pretty terrible ideas in my estimation.
bridget phetasy
In your estimation.
dave rubin
Yeah, in my estimation.
The fact is that now Cory Booker is kind of implying that the Democrats are racist now because he's out, right?
And when Pelosi turned on AOC, AOC said Pelosi's a racist.
Like, doesn't this all seem kind of obvious?
Like if you guys were just going to call everybody racists and bigots and homophobes, that eventually it would all come crashing down on you.
bridget phetasy
I think, too, they all ran.
All the people who are done ran on some kind of wokeness.
You know, they ran.
And it feels like, even just seeing what happened in the UK, that clearly doesn't work.
It didn't work in 2016.
I don't understand why anyone thinks that will work.
Instead of facing that and saying, oh, maybe running on this platform is not helpful, I feel like they'd just double down on it and then lose and then say, see, that confirms my belief, which is the tricky catch-22 of that.
dave rubin
Right.
Instead of looking in the mirror and be like, ah, maybe we're doing something wrong here, it actually, in their minds, it's like, oh, we are even more oppressed than we thought.
bridget phetasy
Or it's the, you're racist, you defend yourself and say, how am I racist?
You even asking that question is evidence of your racism.
How can anybody, you can't even argue with that.
It's impossible.
dave rubin
It's such lunacy.
unidentified
All right.
dave rubin
So we're just going to do this off the cuff.
See what happens.
I haven't even looked through these questions.
bridget phetasy
I'm sure I'll be canceled.
I'm probably already canceled.
dave rubin
I'm going to randomly just kind of scroll through and just see what we get to.
Some of these questions came in before the debate.
Some of them came in during the debate.
bridget phetasy
We don't even know how it ended.
Did it end in a bloodbath?
I was mad there wasn't more blood.
They were so nice to each other.
dave rubin
It felt muted.
Well, that moment when Tom Steyer turned to Pete Buttigieg and was basically like, I have a crush on you.
bridget phetasy
What is he doing?
dave rubin
What is Tom Steyer doing?
Why don't we just get Tom Steyer out of the way?
bridget phetasy
What a dick!
I really felt like he might be ready to endorse somebody at any minute.
You know, you felt like he was going to be like, and I endorse Mayor Pete.
He's the man.
dave rubin
Didn't he remind you of just, like, a kid in, like, elementary school or, no, no, more like junior high school or something, seventh grade, lunch table, who, like, nobody liked, but he was rich, and you knew if you, like, let him sit at the table, maybe his parents were gonna buy you toys or something like that?
bridget phetasy
Or you'd get to go to the mansion and use, like, all of their... And use the video games.
Yeah, exactly.
dave rubin
Like, what is he doing up there?
He's wasting... The party that hates billionaires.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't all turn on him and start devouring him limb by limb.
I get mad because he's wasting time.
And that is really, we were joking about this, quintessential billionaire just up there like, I can be here because I'm going to waste all your time, guys.
dave rubin
Literally, he's like, I am spending hundreds of millions of dollars to waste all of your time.
bridget phetasy
And to waste the time of people who might have something to say and could get the nomination.
Yeah.
I don't understand how he's even there.
dave rubin
Well, it has something to do with, he's polling, I guess, at 16% in South Carolina.
That's an early state, so that somehow got him into this.
But actually, that's a good point.
I would say the two saner people out of this whole thing, now two of them, they happen to have sat in that very chair that you're sitting in right now, but Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard, who at least strike me as pretty decent moderates.
There's maybe a little more left than for my taste at this point.
But I mean, I've sat with them.
I've looked them in the eye.
They're decent human beings.
Tulsi obviously loves the country.
Andrew's got some new ideas.
They're gone.
Like, they're out.
bridget phetasy
They're out of the debates.
dave rubin
Well, they could potentially get back in if, you know, if... Because I feel like they have the internet vote.
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
But in a weird way... Especially Yang.
dave rubin
In a weird way, it's like, that's why MSNBC, every time they do a poll, they leave Yang out or they accidentally put a picture of Jackie Chan.
It's like, what are they doing?
bridget phetasy
I know, I didn't really, it's funny how they messed up both their pictures recently, didn't they?
Yeah.
Yeah, no, they don't stand a chance.
dave rubin
We're all sort of conspiracy theorists at this point, right?
Like, if you're paying attention, you're kind of a conspiracy theorist, because you're like, oh, this is what corporate media does to everybody.
And then it's like, there's Jackie Chan, oh no, that was supposed to be Andrew Yang.
bridget phetasy
Is it a conspiracy theory if it's just true?
dave rubin
If it just keeps happening over and over again.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, at what point is it just reality?
dave rubin
Yeah.
unidentified
Ugh.
dave rubin
All right, so wait, let's just, before we get to the questions, let's just go through our general feelings about each six of them.
So we got Steyr out of the way.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, what are you doing?
dave rubin
One of my guys right before we started, they're like, what do you think about that guy Tim Steer?
I'm like, okay.
All right, so yeah, just pointless get out of here.
Ridiculous.
You're embarrassing yourself.
bridget phetasy
Even Bloomberg would be better than him.
dave rubin
Right, Bloomberg, he's buying his way in.
elizabeth warren
Can we swap out that billionaire?
dave rubin
Can we swap a billionaire, that's funny.
Billionaire swap, that could be, that's a good idea for a show.
bridget phetasy
Let's do it.
dave rubin
Yeah, all right, so let's, Tom Steyer's out of the way.
Get rid of him.
There is one person up there, I'm gonna hold this person for a little bit, because there's someone that we both sort of like.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
In a weird way.
All right, but let's go to Biden next.
bridget phetasy
Biden.
dave rubin
Biden, you have some interesting thoughts on I can't.
bridget phetasy
I can't.
I get heartbroken when I see him and I think tonight he actually did better than I've seen him do before.
unidentified
You mean mentally?
dave rubin
He actually seemed a little clearer.
bridget phetasy
I'm purely not talking about anything he said, ideas.
I'm purely talking about his mental state and how sometimes I feel like he'll have that train of thought and then it just hits like a black hole.
And then you see him trying to recover and I feel like he's slipping.
I could be totally wrong, but I feel like he has that kind of scared look in his eye.
dave rubin
Isn't that sad and scary?
And I think anyone that's been around an old person, I have no idea if he has dementia or any of these things
or the beginnings of it, but everyone's been around an old person,
a grandparent or something, where they're beginning to get that thing
and they're talking and you're sort of praying.
You're like tense listening to them because you're praying they can sort of get to the end of the sentence and there is that feeling.
But he was way better tonight.
They also tanned him a lot less.
He looked more natural.
He was a little calmer.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
But he still has those moments, and what gets me, and again, this is just the intuitive feeling I have, is that he's panicking.
And you know that feeling, you and I have been on stage, have you ever blanked on stage?
Where you just blank, and you're like, what the fuck was I gonna say?
That is what I feel like is happening to him, but I don't know, it hurts my heart to watch him, and I don't know why.
dave rubin
You actually said something that was really funny but also deeply depressing during the debates and we're watching Biden and so most of the audience knows that.
My dog Emma now, she's 15 and a half.
She's lived an incredibly wonderful life.
She's in her last couple weeks now, we know it.
It's been, we've done everything we can do but we're getting there.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
But basically, Emma was on the floor in front of you and she's having trouble getting up at the moment and the whole thing.
bridget phetasy
I can't, it's so sad.
dave rubin
And basically, well, you could just say what you said, because it was just like, it was actually... Because you want me to get cancelled for saying this?
Yeah, because let's cancel, let's get PETA on Bridget's ass.
bridget phetasy
No, I get it.
She was on the floor and he was, it was one of those moments where you could see him just kind of, and I was, I said watching him is kind of, it gives, it evokes in me that same feeling I feel when I look at Emma Dogg.
who's struggling, and I'm not saying that he's near death or anything by any means, but I do have that,
it evokes something really primally in me of like, no, what are you doing?
Why, why are you doing this to yourself?
Why can't Obama stop him?
dave rubin
I don't think anyone, I think they all, whoever the powers that be are, whatever that machine is,
I think they said to him, dude, you've gotta do it or the socialists win.
bridget phetasy
Right.
dave rubin
And he was like, he's been in this forever, he was kinda feeling good that day, and he just said, I'll do it.
bridget phetasy
But he seems like he wants to do it.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, okay.
dave rubin
I don't know, but it is kind of... So one of the reasons that I like talking to you about this stuff is because you upfront admit you're not a political expert.
You don't have like an absolute... They have ideas.
Well, no, you do have ideas though, right?
But you admit that you're not a political expert on these things, but you are sort of intuitive about what people feel about this.
Do you think anyone's excited about Biden?
I mean, is there anyone out there that is like...
Biden's the answer!
bridget phetasy
I don't think it's... I don't think they're excited about him.
My feeling about Biden is that he's the only hope, which isn't a great way to go into... It's not really stirring passionate feelings of like, yay, and excitement.
It's more desperation.
Like, I feel in the same way that he's grasping when those moments you kind of see... Ah, good metaphor.
I feel like that's the, it's like, we're just gonna hope that he's the one.
dave rubin
Right, it's funny, Star Wars was called A New Hope.
He's Joe Biden with only hope.
bridget phetasy
I feel like it.
dave rubin
So Biden, it sort of is what it is.
He's not a terrible person, but he's also kind of wrecked by wokeness.
He, you know, he tries to outwoke them and men can go to women's prisons if they identify as a woman.
And just like a lot of this nonsense.
So that's Biden.
bridget phetasy
Do you think that he will get the nomination?
dave rubin
Let's hold that for a little bit, some predictions.
Elizabeth Warren.
bridget phetasy
I just, again, intuitive, I judge them all based on superficial things.
No, we were joking.
Okay, so gut instinct initially, there's just something about her voice, so she sounds like she's trying to talk like a man.
She always sounds to me like she's trying to come off like I'm a tough guy, or maybe it's The fear of not sounding shrill are all of the things that women are often accused of.
dave rubin
That's interesting, because she doesn't sound shrill in like a way that Hillary used to sound.
Shrill.
She sounds... I mean, what I don't like about her is she seems deeply inauthentic and unlikable.
bridget phetasy
Well, yeah, there's both.
dave rubin
Remember that livestream, I'm gonna get me a beer.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
dave rubin
I'm gonna get me a beer.
Honey, I'm gonna pull over a stool.
bridget phetasy
I think that was after the whole AOC did a live stream, and then it spurred all these other people doing this.
dave rubin
Well, I always say it, it's like, how is it, like, how did we end up in a universe where Donald Trump, an orange-haired, giant, boisterous, over-the-top billionaire, is genuinely more authentic than all of these people?
Like, how did that possibly happen?
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I don't know.
She's been doing this a long time, correct?
dave rubin
She's been around the block, yeah.
bridget phetasy
I don't know.
Because I just started paying attention two years ago.
But she seems like a practiced politician.
And I don't know that once you do this for so long, I don't even know if you know how to be authentic anymore.
Because so much of being in politics seems like just being full of shit all the time.
And so how do you ever back off from that?
Do you just lose your authentic self?
dave rubin
I don't know.
I think there's something about these people that think they have all the answers for everything.
Like every question... She's really an example of this.
Where they ask any question, you know how politicians just make up numbers.
Well, we're gonna take 2.4 billion from the... Trump does it all the time.
bridget phetasy
He's like, 95%!
Everything is 95%!
dave rubin
They all absolutely do it all the time.
They just make up numbers.
But she, because she comes off as this librarian that really like read a book or something,
she strikes me as almost like the worst of it because everything, whoa, we can pay for that
because we're gonna move this here and we're gonna do this with that thing.
And then blah, blah, blah.
And it's like all these plans, they never work.
They've never worked.
bridget phetasy
I also try to imagine someone like that up against Trump.
So whenever any one of them is answering a question, he's not going to take them on, you know, their 10 point plans.
That's just not going to happen.
So how are how are they going to even go up against him if that is their strategy?
dave rubin
Or is that their only strategy in in just the in in the primary, you know, moving into Well, it also seems, and I think we're going to play the clip of this little, did Bernie ever say that a woman can't win, but it seems like Elizabeth is in many ways just a slightly younger female version of Bernie.
Like, what is the difference between the two of them, right?
They want the government to basically do everything and that's that.
Bernie, talk about Bernie.
You were having trouble eating when Bernie was, you were in the middle of eating This is so embarrassing, but it's true.
bridget phetasy
I do have it.
Because he kind of spittles when he talks, and there's drool coming out.
dave rubin
And that lower lip is hanging.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and he does that.
And again, I think he looks... Didn't he have a heart attack recently?
dave rubin
He did have a heart attack.
bridget phetasy
I always joke on Dumpster Fire.
dave rubin
They put that one under the carpet pretty quick.
bridget phetasy
Yeah!
Which is crazy to me, because he literally had a heart attack, and I just think that he... I always joke, like, I don't want the olds running the country!
And he looks visibly... He was leaning forward to try and hear.
dave rubin
He does this a lot.
He does this at every debate.
bridget phetasy
Is that endearing, or... I don't know, I could almost... I volunteer a lot in nursing homes, and it evokes that.
dave rubin
Oh, God.
Also, just, like, the same, like, just beating the same drum forever, and, like, I don't know.
bridget phetasy
It's very us versus them, which, again, is why I always actually think he's the only one who could go up against Trump, because everything is, like, these people did these things, and then this is how we're gonna fight these people.
It seems like a very...
dave rubin
Well, he's the one that, in my mind, it makes the most sense to go up against Trump, because then it's like we can just unearth everything.
It's like socialism versus capitalism.
Let's do it, people.
You know what I mean?
It's like Thunderdome.
unidentified
Let's just do it.
bridget phetasy
This is the matchup I'd like to see, just from a purely entertainment perspective.
Just from my fiddling while Rome burns, that's the matchup I'm rooting for.
Yeah, for somebody that wants to see the world burn and make some jokes about it, that's probably Well, because a lot of people wanted Bernie because they wanted to bring the whole system down, too.
And so it's really choosing which system you want to bring down.
dave rubin
What do you think about these burn the system down people?
Like, we live in the greatest, freest country in the history of the world.
It doesn't mean that it's the most perfect place ever.
There's no such thing as perfection.
We're flawed, so the system's flawed.
But, like, there's no place better than America.
Nobody wants to leave America, and yet they want to... There's genuinely, like...
I mean, the Bernie people, especially on Twitter, they're just endlessly horrific and awful.
Like they, you know, these genderless furries that, you know, scream about tolerance all day and tell everyone how evil they are.
bridget phetasy
Oh man, I've had them come for me.
They probably will after tonight when I said he smells like an old home when I watch him or whatever.
unidentified
I'm sure my mentions will be beautiful.
dave rubin
Plus you're with me.
It ain't gonna be pretty, sister.
But for real, what do you think about these people that, it's almost like they're so bored with success and decency, and that they have iPhones and video games and all this stuff, that they're like, let's burn it down.
Burn it down?
bridget phetasy
Really?
I feel like burn it down is the same It's the same mentality that, you know, people are having lots of home births because we made
We made maternal deaths and baby, infant deaths, we brought that mortality rate down.
So now it's something that is, we can have that choice.
Anti-vaxxers, you can choose whether or not you want vaccinations because we pretty much eradicated a lot of these diseases.
Because we have so much privilege and so much wealth and prosperity and good, they're like, burn it all down!
dave rubin
Like they have nothing else to do in a way because of the success.
unidentified
I think it was... It's almost like a function of the success in a certain way.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I think it was Ayan.
She was saying that we take our freedom for granted.
We're like trust fund babies with freedom.
It's like three generations down from having to really fight for our freedom and so we take it for granted.
And so it does seem like we're all a little bit, like in the whiny culture where we're like, We need to burn it all down, said from my iPhone.
dave rubin
Yeah, well they also love that burn and Bernie sound so similar.
unidentified
I know, I know.
dave rubin
So we got rid of Steyer, we got rid of Bernie, we got rid of Joe.
We talked about Elizabeth Warren.
bridget phetasy
Oh, wait, no, there were more.
There were six, right?
dave rubin
We did Bernie, we did Warren, we did Biden, we did Steyer.
Then there's the one that I'm holding.
And who's the other one we're forgetting?
Oh, oh, so Pete Buttigieg.
bridget phetasy
Oh, Mayor Pete.
dave rubin
Yeah, so let's talk about little Mayor Pete.
bridget phetasy
Little Mayor Pete.
dave rubin
So I was joking to you that during this thing, like, I kind of want him to be a little gayer.
I don't mean that, you know, people always say to me, Dave, you don't seem gay or something like that.
They always mean it as a compliment.
Which is weird.
I never really take it as a compliment.
Like, I am what I am.
It's all that I am.
unidentified
Why?
bridget phetasy
Because you don't have the normal affectation that people associate?
dave rubin
Yeah, I don't have the affect or, I don't know, they want me to dance more, whatever that is.
bridget phetasy
They need to unpack that.
dave rubin
Right, that's really, that's more on them.
But when I was saying it to you, like I wanted to be gay more,
what I mean really is I just want him to be a little more human.
He's too young and like seemingly functional to be so robotic.
bridget phetasy
I know.
dave rubin
Like where is the person in there?
Is there a person in there?
bridget phetasy
Well, I was saying to you when we were watching, I feel like whenever I listen to any of his answers,
I just imagine him repeating them in a mirror.
And if you start watching his answers and imagine him saying them in the bathroom mirror to himself, that's how it feels.
It doesn't feel like he's, you know, there's no connection.
dave rubin
You think that's his handlers like because you'd think that like a young guy like he's I think he's like 36 like that like you think like a young guy who grew up with the internet and like he was also in the military so you'd think he'd be like a little more like You know, like go getcha or something like that, that he just comes off as just like, you know, and I also, I mean, just personally, I'm not thrilled with him because, you know, we were going to have him on the show and his people agreed to it.
And then basically HuffPo and Vox attacked them and then they backed out of it and stopped responding to our emails.
And it's like, man, if you're afraid of me, meanwhile, he's like talking about the Ayatollah.
Forget Trump.
Yeah, you're going to stand up to Trump, but he's like, I'm going to tell the Ayatollah what to do.
And it's like, oh, you were afraid of Dave Rubin.
Didn't want to come to his garage.
bridget phetasy
Or more importantly, you're afraid of the mob.
dave rubin
Yeah, the mob.
bridget phetasy
And so I don't know how you're going to, you think as a president, you're not going to deal with a mob, you know, all the time.
dave rubin
But what do you think of him just overall?
He strikes me as kind of decent.
He just strikes me as pretty much nothing.
bridget phetasy
He looked really pretty.
dave rubin
Too much makeup.
bridget phetasy
A lot of makeup.
dave rubin
Easy on the contouring.
That was gay.
How was that?
That was pretty good, right?
bridget phetasy
I love that most of our commentary when we were just watching it was just us being like, what's up with her blush?
She has too much makeup on.
dave rubin
Because there are a lot of weird makeup things.
Like they really took away Biden's tan this time.
So you can see all his like freckles and liver spots and all that stuff.
But that is very weird when they do that.
bridget phetasy
And now with the TVs and the HD, it's like, even I'm like, oh god, you see every single thing.
Every blemish, everything.
But then when they overcompensate for that and overdo it, it looks like when one of the moderators, I think she was from the Des Moines paper, And they were on a split screen and it was like Hunger Games.
Their colors and the makeup.
dave rubin
Right, it was the local anchor and Pete Buttigieg.
They both had so much.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, it was the capital on Hunger Games.
dave rubin
Do you think there's anything to him?
Do you think this is a real thing?
bridget phetasy
So, he seems to inspire a lot of excitement, which I think is good.
I don't know how he's gonna break through, but...
Yeah, he needs to have that breakthrough moment.
I think he could stand a chance because I don't sense how he's that different from anyone else.
unidentified
And so really it's- He's like a little more moderate than them.
dave rubin
Is he though?
Yeah, well, moderate than say Warren or Sanders.
His answer is not always government everything.
He has like some element of free market something.
Okay.
Or you have to pay.
He said something about cutting spending at some point or something like that.
And it was like, whoa.
You can't say that to these people.
These people are spenders.
But let's talk about the one who we both sort of... I think she's actually kind of decent.
She's obviously not going to be the President of the United States or win the nomination, but Senator Amy Klobuchar from Minnesota.
Like, and she's trying real hard, and she put on a lot of rouge.
I know.
But she, like, does seem to me like somebody that should be in government.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
And, you know, fight for what she believes.
And it's a little more big government than my thing, but, like, she strikes me as, like, a decent person.
bridget phetasy
I think the Minnesota girl in me loves her, and she does seem genuine and also sometimes nervous, which I kind of appreciate.
dave rubin
Yeah, she gets that thing.
bridget phetasy
The Klobuchar syndrome?
I don't know, I just call it that.
dave rubin
Mostly we're just diagnosing these people.
bridget phetasy
But most of America is.
Most of America is.
That's what's funny is that the analysts, the political analysts, they can analyze all the ideas.
dave rubin
Elizabeth Warren's putting 2.8 billion.
bridget phetasy
But most voters are like, she has too much root.
I don't like her voice.
dave rubin
So is it all just like, that's what it is.
It's all a fifth grade running for class president thing in a weird way.
In a weird way it is.
bridget phetasy
So most people have made up their minds.
I'm more interested, you know, your viewers seem to be somewhat in the politically homeless arena where I exist.
I'm interested, do those debates change anyone's mind about who they might vote for?
What I've found from most of the independents I talk to is that When they're faced with a choice between Trump and a socialist, they're going Trump.
And so who's gonna change that vote?
dave rubin
Right, so then that's a bet for basically Klobuchar or Pete or the two that- Or Biden.
Or Biden, but the two that it really was, well, I guess Biden was really there for that vote, but that's also where Yang and Tulsi would have done well, and we'll see if they get back in.
bridget phetasy
I miss Marianne.
dave rubin
With the crystals.
You love the crystals.
bridget phetasy
And that weird voice of hers.
What is that accent?
Please tell me.
dave rubin
You know what?
I would never do this normally, but I will say this now because she's out of the election.
But when I had her on.
bridget phetasy
Oh, that's right.
You had her on.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
So when I had her on, you know, we have this whole conversation and she's a collectivist.
Like, we just have a fundamental impasse.
So halfway through the interview, because I didn't want to fight with her the whole time.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
Right, like, because I try to treat my guests respectfully.
So like, but like, we just view the world very differently.
So I was letting her do her thing.
But halfway, I thought, I have to tell her that we have a difference of opinion here
just so that my audience doesn't think I'm an idiot or agree with her.
So I said, I just want to be clear, you know, you're a collectivist,
you believe in the group, and I believe in the individual,
and that's okay, whatever.
And then we do the rest of the interview.
And then when the interview ended, after she does all this collectivist stuff,
and she talks about reparations, and you know, she's done this thing where she prayed,
she had white people go into a church and they touched black people.
unidentified
Yeah, that was really like crazy stuff.
dave rubin
But then the second the cameras went off, she turned to me and she's like, you know, I'm pretty much a libertarian, too.
And a lot of what you say makes sense.
And I was like, lady.
I would really never do that to a guest, but it's just like with, I think, a presidential candidate, you know, what they say off camera is different than just like a regular person.
You know, and then she got caught on that hot mic on that show where she basically said the same thing, that the lefties are like far more evil and mean.
unidentified
She's like, how come the Republicans are so much nicer to me?
dave rubin
That's a hell of an impression.
bridget phetasy
She's just funny.
dave rubin
I may need you to do that throughout this hour.
bridget phetasy
No, I'll just be Marianne now.
dave rubin
So that's Klobuchar.
So yeah, the shaking thing's a bit much.
And also because she's got all that hairspray, so when she shakes, it seems like a helmet.
bridget phetasy
She's so Midwestern now.
I love her.
dave rubin
She seems like a decent woman, right?
She's a wife in an 80s sitcom or something.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, she just, and I sense that she really enjoys being of service.
I actually sense that she enjoys being, it's not, I don't sense that it's a power thing for her.
It does actually seem more, she seemed to go the hardest on Trump tonight.
I think maybe she took the first shot, but I was in the canyons losing signal.
But she seemed to keep bringing it back to him, which was surprising because I feel like in all the other ones, she has been the most lenient.
So I don't know if she just decided to change tactics.
dave rubin
All right, people, that is our professional breakdown of their medical conditions and other strange personal idiosyncratic Problems.
Okay, so we have a zillion questions here.
If you want to submit questions, you can go to RubinReport.com, just sign in and drop us a note, or you can download the app on iOS or on Android.
So there's a million things here.
Okay.
Well, this is just like a general one that's a theme that already we've hit, but how will doubling down on identity politics work to beat Trump?
I mean, I just don't think it will.
I think Trump's probably going to win in a landslide short of... 44 states.
Like basically short of some crazy thing happening that which you know some crazy x-factor or horrible event.
bridget phetasy
My theory with him is that the only person who can beat Trump is Trump because he does have like a bit of a self-destructive wild tendency which makes it feel very out of control and chaotic and I don't know Who among them can beat him?
But I do think he could somehow.
dave rubin
Like he could actually just.
bridget phetasy
Do something so bananas or off or unhinged.
I don't know what that is.
There was a great tweet.
Someone said, can we fast forward to the part where he shoots someone on Fifth Avenue?
dave rubin
Like how does this really end?
It ends with that, right?
bridget phetasy
And wins still.
So I'm not sure what that would be, but I don't.
Yeah, it still feels a little bit, part of me is like, yeah, he's gonna win 44 states, and the other part of me is like, or we'll all die in a nuclear explosion.
dave rubin
Well, World War III started, because you know, they keep telling us World War III started.
bridget phetasy
Or Civil War, it goes back and forth.
dave rubin
I will say this about Trump, that a couple weeks ago I was in West Palm Beach speaking at Turning Point, and I spoke in the morning, and Trump spoke like an hour or two later, and I'd never seen him speak live before, but I was in the second row, so first time I've ever seen the guy speak live.
And I noticed one of the fundamental differences between live Trump and what you see on TV Trump, which is he's kind of a comic up there.
But when you see only the snippets, it all sounds crazy.
So one of the things he was talking about was wind power and windmills.
And he gets up there and he goes, I know everything about windmills.
Nobody knows more about windmills than me.
And then he does this three-minute thing about windmills, the shape of the thing, and they don't look pretty, and I like windmills that are this.
And it's like, if you're actually there and you see it within context, you're like, he's just being funny.
He's making a broad point about that we waste money on, you know, giant programs that don't really do anything and the rest of it.
But then you watch then, because then I was there, so I see it live, you know, the full hour speech, but then I see the Vox reporter that clips it, and then it's Trump saying, I know more about windmills than anyone.
And then the reporter's like, Trump claims he knows more about windmills than anyone.
And it's like, you people are all fucking bananas.
Okay.
bridget phetasy
Everything.
It's all bananas.
dave rubin
Well, this is funny because we just said this.
Have you ever met any Amy Klobuchar supporter or heard of anyone who's voting for her or even heard of her?
bridget phetasy
You've got two.
dave rubin
That's funny.
bridget phetasy
You've got two right here.
dave rubin
Yeah, all right.
bridget phetasy
I'm team Klobuchar now.
dave rubin
All right.
Well, there's a couple of questions about who do we think is going to get the nomination.
We'll get to that later.
Oh, a few people also asked some version of this question.
What do we both think of the Vince Vaughn situation?
Vince Vaughn sat with Donald Trump and they shook hands and sat and talked for two minutes.
Should he be executed?
What do you have to do here?
bridget phetasy
What's funny about that news cycle is that they took a conservative's tweet who jokingly said, fast forward to Vince Vaughn being cancelled.
And then Fox blasted it and said, all of these libs are outraged.
So then on Twitter, we were all making fun of him.
dave rubin
But there were plenty of people that were outraged.
bridget phetasy
I'm sure, but I don't know how many.
It seemed like something that was very much manufactured by the media.
And I'm sure there were people who were outraged.
They got outraged about Ellen.
And, um, yeah, you're not, it's that whole, like, guilt by association thing that he can't even shake it.
What's he supposed to do?
Punch him in the face?
dave rubin
Yeah, right, right.
Or just put, you know, it's like, he shook the guy's hand and talked to him, you don't know what he said.
bridget phetasy
He's a decent person.
unidentified
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
I wouldn't, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't, you know, I don't know.
dave rubin
Oh, this is this is sort of interesting.
Well, all right, let's skip that for a sec.
We'll do some funny ones first.
Who do you think was the master clown of the evening?
Like who really just sort of, well, Steyr, because it's like you're, it's like, what are you doing?
Like, how lonely are you?
Like, is he married?
Do you have anyone that loves you?
bridget phetasy
I don't understand why anyone would want to run for president ever.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
That seems like the worst job thing.
dave rubin
You gotta be a sick individual.
unidentified
Yeah!
bridget phetasy
You have to be a crazy person.
Or a bored billionaire who has no friends and is just isolated.
dave rubin
Oh, this is a good one.
Are there any legitimate polls that can let us know who's actually doing well, or are we just going to hear whatever nominee the Dems have is ahead, just like last time?
So, that's really interesting because, you know, you hear people quote polls all the time.
The polls were all wrong last time.
bridget phetasy
Which I freaking said.
I said this.
I'm like, no one's gonna be honest about this.
You've come out and said that these people are deplorable and that, and you've said if anyone votes for Trump, they're a racist sexist.
So who the F is gonna admit to even a pollster that they're voting for this person?
dave rubin
No one.
So basically you don't trust any of the polls?
unidentified
No.
dave rubin
What a depressing, it's a sad thing actually that like you can't trust these things, but there's no evidence I think anymore that you can.
bridget phetasy
But people lie.
People lie to themselves.
I'm probably lying to myself 25 to 75% of the time.
And you can do a poll.
And that's the truth.
dave rubin
And you are a polling expert also, right?
bridget phetasy
I am 100% a polling expert.
dave rubin
Let's see.
Dave, I'd love to hear you and Bridget tease on where you see each of our social cultural trends heading and your honest assessment about how we're not only incredibly divided, but that social currency behind silence or acquiescence when it comes to radical left.
Okay, I think I got the rest of this.
So the basic idea being that because the left has sort of gone so bananas and that everyone is now a deplorable or evil or whatever, that there's just like this massive layer of people who just are completely afraid to say what they think.
I mean, this is exactly what my book is about.
bridget phetasy
Okay, so I can't wait to read your book.
What's interesting to me... You're quoted in there.
Am I?
I think you are.
You weren't sure about this.
dave rubin
We may have cut that.
I'm honestly not sure.
bridget phetasy
They're like, take the idea and run with it.
What is interesting to me, and I've been thinking a lot about this, is...
Someone like myself who's been like, hey, you guys aren't really speaking to me.
I feel like you left me at the bar and now you're waiting on the hipsters.
The response has generally been good riddance.
So what am I supposed to do?
What's somebody like?
I know a lot of people like me who feel like disenfranchised lefties but can't just hold our nose and vote for Trump either.
It doesn't really matter because I'm in California, which is a lame loser thing for me to say.
But for people where it does matter, I think they're really divided and confused and torn.
But if the Democrats are constantly saying, like, we don't need your vote, OK, they're not going to vote for you then.
dave rubin
Yeah.
And it's not just we don't need your vote.
It's like, you're an awful human being.
You don't agree with us on everything.
Because basically, you have to agree with them There was nothing on stage tonight that they really had any disagreement about.
The one little thing is that Biden did vote for the Iraq war and Bernie was against it.
That is a fact and they're going to bring it up all the time.
But that's something that happened 18, 20 years ago, whatever.
It's almost 20 years ago.
I mean, it's crazy.
But in terms of everything else, there's no real disagreement there on anything.
Like they have little like oh my social security plan I'm gonna make up this number that's a little higher than your number and you're gonna do this with your number and but like there's no real disagreement.
bridget phetasy
I mean is it?
dave rubin
Because they don't foster a place where disagreement is sort of allowed.
bridget phetasy
Right the the version that's what I don't understand really is that what is their I get the sense that they hate America.
It's just been my, I just feel, when I watch it, I'm like, God, it's so cynical.
It seems so cynical.
And I'm not saying, you know, we're talking about the Democrats tonight, so I know a lot of people will be like, but you didn't say anything about how the right is cynical.
dave rubin
I didn't know you during the last election, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you made a gajillion jokes about all the Republicans just as I did when they were doing it.
unidentified
You can find jokes about every Republican from Trump to Rubio to Cruz to... I made fun of them all and I also said Trump is going to win.
bridget phetasy
And I said to the left, you guys are going to joke him into the White House because you don't take him seriously.
And I kept saying that over and over.
I'm like, you guys laugh.
This guy's going to win the election.
dave rubin
You're a polling expert.
You're an election expert.
bridget phetasy
I'm like Marianne Williamson.
I can see the future.
dave rubin
On crack.
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unidentified
Ooh.
dave rubin
This is a tough one, putting us on the spot.
True or false?
bridget phetasy
I don't like these binary choices.
dave rubin
The modern left's behavior will make Dave and Bridget consider voting for Trump on election day.
I mean the answer for me is true.
unidentified
Okay.
dave rubin
I absolutely will consider it at this point.
bridget phetasy
Okay.
Yeah, I don't know that I can.
dave rubin
If my choice is Trump, who I think is a capitalist, he's a, you know... I still think I would, like, take the pussy way out and do... I don't think I can do it this time.
bridget phetasy
Is that what you did last time?
dave rubin
Well, no, last time I voted for Gary Johnson because I'm in California, we have a certain luxury.
I really wanted just like a libertarian idea to get out there.
And I thought if there was ever a chance for the libertarians, I thought because everyone, so many people hated Trump and Hillary, I thought, whoa, maybe Gary Johnson could sneak in and get 5%, you know, like something unheard of.
And that then would like proliferate some of the good libertarian ideas.
He was just a terrible candidate and whatever.
And he's a nice guy and he smokes too much pot and you know, nobody's perfect.
But I don't think I can sit on the fence in that regard.
bridget phetasy
Interesting.
Why don't you think you can sit on the fence?
I just think... Because you're like too big of a deal now.
dave rubin
I don't know that sounds kind of gross.
I just feel like...
Well, first off, just generally speaking, I wouldn't have a major problem voting for Trump at this point.
I just wouldn't.
Do I love everything about his personality?
No.
But do I think basically the country's in pretty great shape, the economy's crushing it, we are getting out of these wars, I don't think we're going into World War III.
I think there's so many good things actually happening here.
I think he's also the guy that's crushing identity politics, and while a regular Republican would have just been
destroyed by it, he's calling out the media bullshit.
bridget phetasy
But he still plays his own version of identity.
They still do it on the right.
dave rubin
Of course, but this is, I don't think he's perfect.
Right.
The question is, would you consider it?
bridget phetasy
He's still fueling petty grievances and the feeling of other and us versus them.
Well, no, all the time.
He doesn't feel very unifying.
dave rubin
One of the things that he does all the time that I think he should get away from is he needs to stop making it sound like he's the president of the Republican Party.
bridget phetasy
Right.
dave rubin
You know, he says we as Republicans are Republicans this and Democrats this and whatever and it's like, you know, we all fall into that trap sometimes.
Yeah.
But that's my true or false answer.
I will strongly consider it.
bridget phetasy
I'm still false.
dave rubin
So you will not consider it, no matter what?
bridget phetasy
Well, in this moment, as of a question, I don't, I can't, there's still a part of me that just would feel like it goes against my intuitive sense of... So you think, so basically, if it was someone like Bernie, who I know you don't like, you would vote for the Libertarian, or you'd write somebody in?
Right, right, right.
I wouldn't vote for Bernie, but I'd probably vote Libertarian.
I wish there was a third party.
I hate the binary choice.
I think we should smash that.
I would love to see a third party breakthrough.
I think if there could be any chance, it would be now.
dave rubin
Well, my crazy conspiracy theory, which all seem to be true these days, is that this was exactly what the plan of the progressives was.
The progressive plan for these last five years or ten years basically was to sneak in through the liberals, the good liberals, because this was the only way that they could get in because liberals are nice and tolerant and we've got a weak underbelly, so they snuck in through us to destroy the party.
The Democratic Party is destroyed.
Because AOC, who I think is an idiot and wrong about everything, she actually made a good point the other day.
She's like, why am I in the same party as Joe Biden?
unidentified
Wow.
dave rubin
Did she say that?
Yeah.
And that's actually, she actually is right.
You are a radical socialist lefty.
That's fine if that's what you are.
Joe Biden is not, shouldn't be in that party, no matter how much he tries to fake that he's woke or whatever.
So it's like, you know what I mean?
Like there's some Truth to that, that these people shouldn't be in the same party, but you know, once that party splits, well congratulations, you've got Republicans winning forever.
Or years before, if a strong Libertarian had come in and it would have split the right, then you'd have Democrats forever.
So it's risky what happens when you bring in a third party.
I know.
But yes, maybe a couple more parties, although a lot of countries in Europe have tons of parties and then they have these weak systems that, you know, Israel's had three elections in a row because they can't form a coalition.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I don't know.
It seems... I don't know.
I just wish that there was... I don't feel represented by either party.
And I don't think that I'm alone in that.
So I wish that there was someone who did represent that more libertarian feeling.
dave rubin
Yeah, there's nobody... I mean, just right now, there's just nobody.
The libertarians want me to run.
bridget phetasy
They do?
dave rubin
For what?
Yeah, they do, literally.
bridget phetasy
Maybe we should run.
Guess what, guys?
We're announcing our campaign tonight.
dave rubin
Wait, you didn't dream tonight?
I told Shapiro, if Shapiro ever runs for president, I will be press secretary.
Just out of sheer, the worst week in American history.
bridget phetasy
I want to tell you, I had a dream the night before the election.
And Trump won.
And then I was running around because I was his press secretary.
And I was in the basement and there was somebody trying to—someone was trying to assassinate him.
And I'm like, what do I—I need to put something out.
And then another handler came along and said, oh, don't worry, Trump does all his own press.
What a prophetic dream!
I mean, it was true.
dave rubin
Geez, that is good.
Oh, you're gonna like this one because you are a cultural critic expert.
Oh, yeah, right.
This actually is right up your wheelhouse.
What do you think the next big comedian or celebrity to take a high-profile whack at the left will be?
Who has stayed silent so far that you would have expected to speak up already?
Personally, I wish Seinfeld was more vocal.
bridget phetasy
I was just gonna say Seinfeld.
I mean, he did say he wouldn't do colleges anymore, which is his way of being like, yeah, no, I'm not doing that.
dave rubin
Yeah, I always use that one as the example of how out of control political correctness is because nobody knows Seinfeld's opinion on anything.
bridget phetasy
No!
dave rubin
Like, he's so politically correct.
bridget phetasy
He's probably a Republican.
dave rubin
Well, he's definitely a Republican.
You know, it's obvious.
Well, you know, Adam Carolla, when he was here a couple weeks ago, his theory is that if someone's in Hollywood and you don't know their opinion... Oh, I've been saying this forever.
bridget phetasy
I got mad because he outed everyone.
I'm like, if they're not tweeting about politics, they're probably libertarian or conservative.
But I never tweeted it because I didn't want to out everyone like you guys.
dave rubin
I know, I feel that too sometimes.
But it's like, if Carolla's doing it, he's friends with a lot of these guys.
But who do you think, I mean, so we just saw, look, Chappelle has now woken up, obviously Ricky Gervais.
Just torch this whole town.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
dave rubin
You know, there's more people like us doing it at the at the online level.
But do you think there's someone that's kind of like itching, itching to do it?
bridget phetasy
What's really more interesting to me is, is there a female who will do it?
dave rubin
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Because there haven't really been many high profile females who have.
And I'm not sure that they could.
dave rubin
You know who could have done it, but she went the other way.
And it's really unfortunate.
bridget phetasy
Sarah Silverman.
dave rubin
Well, she really went the other way, but she was always a real lefty, like.
Oh, okay.
To me, it's Whoopi Goldberg.
Whoopi, who's so brilliant, so funny, so down with free speech and edgy and whatever, and yet she's really taken a turn to the left now.
I think it's partly just a visceral thing with Trump.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
dave rubin
But she could have been the woman.
bridget phetasy
Which I understand that.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, that they're, you know, I do, I hate the whole like, Privilege everything privilege, but I do have a certain amount I have some luxuries that other people don't so I my experience of the country and the nation is different Which is why I sure but it's not because of your whiteness.
No, but I always knowing your history But I but I But I don't I don't experience things the same way, and I do try to give every individual the benefit.
I believe in individuals, so I try to give every individual the benefit of the doubt and understand that my worldview is not the only worldview.
I can understand why someone might have a different visceral reaction.
What's weird, and I don't trust myself always, because I'm an addict, and so I'm trained to not trust a lot, and I just wonder, did the culture move super far left?
And I was left behind?
Or is my lizard, or not even my lizard brain, or is like some part of my brain adapting so that I can survive?
dave rubin
Survive within the madness.
Yeah, just to stay... Well, I don't think that the culture actually moved that far.
I think a bunch of loud screaming radicals who then became journalists and became university professors.
bridget phetasy
Right.
dave rubin
So they taught, they indoctrinated a whole bunch of people.
And then even just in the last couple days, you know, it's like three years ago, we were talking about labeling everyone a Nazi and why that's bad.
Then it was you can punch a Nazi.
And now this Project Veritas video came out.
You probably see this today about this Bernie campaign surrogate.
Well, yeah, he locked himself in the campaign headquarters because they caught him on video basically saying, you know, we're going to send people to the gulags and there's going to be violence if Bernie doesn't get the nomination and we're going to kill cops.
bridget phetasy
Everybody's doing this.
There will be violence if they don't get the nomination.
There will be a civil war.
I'm like, what are you guys going to fight over?
Somebody doesn't eat Chick-fil-A?
dave rubin
Someone doesn't eat Chick-fil-A.
bridget phetasy
What are you fighting over?
It's so weird.
dave rubin
It does.
All right, here we go.
Where do you even choose to begin critiquing these ideas?
For many of them are, duh, as for how obviously bad or ill-conceived they are.
So how do you technically take these ideas seriously so they can be dismantled?
I think we were both suffering from a little of that during the debate.
Right.
Like, there's so many, like the whole conversation is so like dull and boring as if these people
can solve all of these problems.
That it's like they're not really talking about what's important.
bridget phetasy
I don't know anyone who thinks the government should do things, who,
They can do things better.
So I'll talk to somebody who's like, burn it all down or whatever.
Okay, let's just talk about redistributing wealth.
Let's redistribute the wealth.
You'll talk to somebody about this.
Okay, and who's going to redistribute it?
Oh, the government.
Oh, you're going to trust the government?
dave rubin
I hate the government!
bridget phetasy
Look at California.
It's a perfect example of, okay, we make tons of money and like we have crap roads and where does it all go?
I'm like Cardi B, you know, like where's my money?
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dave rubin
And Cardi B, who I'm not even totally sure who she is, but apparently she's going to be the governor of Utah or something.
I don't know what's happening.
bridget phetasy
I thought she was moving to Nigeria.
dave rubin
How far into the debate before you guys decided to watch reruns of the Golden Girls?
I would have, but I don't think they were on TV land at the time.
That actually would have been very nice.
unidentified
It was basically the Golden Girls.
I mean, I thought we were watching reruns of The Golden Girls.
dave rubin
Well, I tweeted out something about how Biden looks like a guy that would have dated Blanche and Bernie would have dated Dorothy.
And Sophia would definitely have been a Trump supporter.
There's no doubt about that.
bridget phetasy
Oh, for sure.
What's funny is they are, how old is Trump?
He's old too.
He doesn't strike me as that old.
Or maybe, I don't know, maybe it's the tan.
unidentified
It's the tan and like, yeah, there's something else going on there.
dave rubin
Let's see.
Will Democrats who are moving from blue states like California and Mass to purple or red states like Texas
flip the states permanently blue or is there a chance their minds change
toward a more moderate view regarding policy?
I love this question because when I toured with Jordan and we did like 110 stops over the year,
I was in all these states that I had never been to and all these smaller towns in Des Moines
and I was in Salt Lake City and a bunch of stuff in Texas and everyone basically was like,
I would do a joke about how the Californians are ruining everything and they're moving here
and everyone was like, Dave, stop telling them it's good here.
Because I would come back and I'd do a live stream and I'd be like, I was in Salt Lake City and it was clean and it was great and everyone was respectful and nice and the economy was booming.
And then I'd get mail from people in Salt Lake like, Dave, shut the fuck up.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
dave rubin
What do you think these people ultimately will do?
bridget phetasy
I know it's a real fear with the Republican Party about Texas.
Because if they lose Texas, they're shit out of luck.
And I know there's a legitimate fear because it was... I just know it is.
unidentified
And it is...
bridget phetasy
I don't understand that mentality.
dave rubin
Well Beto, who's a crazy lefty, lost only by a couple points to Ted Cruz.
unidentified
Yeah, I feel like it's different with the general though.
bridget phetasy
You know, I think that that, I don't know, maybe people, I feel like the libertarian spirit in Texas is so strong it would be hard for me to imagine it being flip blue.
And I don't understand that mentality of That's what I don't understand.
Everybody's bitching about this, the freelance law, the AB whatever it is, AB5 or something.
I don't remember the name of it.
And I'll see these lying threads from people who live in California and they're crazy.
I'm like, stop voting for these people.
Who do you think is voting for these laws?
dave rubin
They scream about how bad our education is here, and it's like, yeah, well, we have been Democrat-run for the last 40 years.
bridget phetasy
And predominantly!
What do you think needs to change here?
And then why would you go to another state and think that that is doing the same thing?
It's like, wherever you go, there you are.
dave rubin
It's like if you were trying to convert somebody to a really bad religion.
You know what I mean?
The religion's like getting everything wrong.
Did you think that Joe's teeth might fall out during the debate?
bridget phetasy
I do have that.
There's that fear.
Yeah, and Bernie.
unidentified
It's like the bottom row might just pop out.
dave rubin
Let's see.
unidentified
Let me go up here.
dave rubin
Dave, I'm sorry, I just don't care.
I know that sounds rude, but I'd wager it's how a lot of us feel about the Democrats at this point.
Biden, corrupt.
Warren, a perennial liar.
Bernie, a communist tree with downright evil fruit.
Buttigieg, who is he again?
I guess that wasn't a question for us.
It was somebody venting.
That's important.
We're here for you.
You are welcome.
For anyone else that wants to vent, by the way, go to RubinReport.com and vent.
It will feel good.
bridget phetasy
We're here.
It's a safe space.
dave rubin
If Trump is reelected, the San Francisco Bay Area is going to go completely out of its freaking mind.
LA is the same.
What do you predict might change in the social and political climate if that occurs?
I mean, this keeps getting back to this idea of like, is there anything that could turn these far lefties around?
Would a second Trump presidency do it?
bridget phetasy
No, it won't.
But I do think there's I think as more people speak, push back, you know, against, and push back.
So just because I push back against, as I mentioned, I don't know that I can vote for a socialist, but I, and I don't know that I can hold my nose.
So I think it's people like me and other people start to say, Hey guys, maybe don't be so crazy.
You know, you see this all the time on Twitter.
All the left has to do is not be, Ben says this all the time, Ben Shapiro, all the left has to do is not be crazy and they can't do it.
And how do you out-crazy him?
How is that possible?
But yet, somehow, oh, let's lean into the gender stuff, because that, yeah, that's going great for you guys.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Like, when someone has to choose between those two things, they're going to choose the lesser of, they're going to choose the devil they know.
dave rubin
You know, it's funny, I've said this to Ben where, you know, I've debated abortion with Ben several times and I'm pro-choice and he's pro-life.
bridget phetasy
He is?
No.
dave rubin
It's crazy, I know people can't believe it.
bridget phetasy
No idea.
dave rubin
But what I've said to him several times is, Ben, I'm struggling with abortion now more and I used to say 20 weeks and I I'm not going to say it right now, but in my book I take a slightly different position on that, whatever.
But what I find is my position is changing a little more pro-life, not because I've been compelled that much by the pro-life arguments, but it's because the pro-choice people are so bananas that it starts making me like, oh, they're completely unhinged.
bridget phetasy
Again, that's the loudest crazies.
dave rubin
But there's nobody on that stage up there tonight, except maybe Biden, and he's getting weird with it too, that would stop a woman from having an eight-month abortion.
bridget phetasy
But it's so rare!
dave rubin
But if your policy is basically untethered to reality...
unidentified
I don't know.
bridget phetasy
Right, right, right.
dave rubin
It just feels kind of gross.
bridget phetasy
No, no.
I just, I don't understand.
It's that whole, it drives me crazy.
dave rubin
Oh, by the way, Dave Chappelle endorsed Andrea.
bridget phetasy
No, I know.
I saw that.
I'm kind of with Dave.
dave rubin
We are a professional program here.
We're going to throw to some video clips.
What do you think about that, people?
Throw to some video clips in just a second.
We got a couple of clips from the debate.
We'll ask one more question first.
bridget phetasy
You're professional?
unidentified
What?
bridget phetasy
We're professional?
dave rubin
We're very professional.
Let's see.
Which candidate embarrassed themselves the most for the evening?
bridget phetasy
They seemed very, very trying to avoid that.
They all seemed very safe to me.
I think the internet too, it just destroys everything in that sense because everyone's so afraid that that one gaffe is gonna go viral and just tank them.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
That now everybody is just, you know, robotic and safe and how are you gonna go against Mr. Fly-off-the-seat-of-his-pants?
dave rubin
Did they know that it's probably not gonna work against the Trump guy?
Are these in any particular order or can I throw at any of them?
I'm gonna throw at any of them.
So let's go to the one moment that actually was sort of It was sort of interesting because of what happened over the last couple days.
This was Bernie and Warren because there was this story that apparently a year or two ago, Bernie... Who leaked that story?
I don't know, but it sounded like a story.
Bernie said that Warren couldn't win because she's that a woman couldn't win so they talked about it
unidentified
President in the history of our country so senator Sanders I do want to be clear here.
You're saying that you never told Senator Warren that a woman could not win the election.
That is correct.
Senator Warren, what did you think when Senator Sanders told you a woman could not win the election?
elizabeth warren
I disagreed.
Bernie is my friend, and I am not here to try to fight with Bernie.
But look, this question about whether or not a woman can be president has been raised, and it's time for us to attack it head on.
And I think the best way to talk about who can win is by looking at people's winning record.
So, can a woman beat Donald Trump?
Look at the men on this stage.
Collectively, they have lost 10 elections.
The only people on this stage who have won every single election that they've been in
are the women, Amy and me.
dave rubin
All right. So what's interesting about that clip is that so this story leaks like a day or two ago.
No one in their right mind thinks that Bernie's anti-women, right?
unidentified
No.
dave rubin
I got all sorts of problems with Bernie.
I don't think he's anti-women.
There's even a video of him 30 years ago saying that a woman could be president.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
dave rubin
But that video really showed how disingenuous Elizabeth Warren is because she didn't say that It didn't happen.
bridget phetasy
No, it was like a brilliant pivot.
dave rubin
Yeah, like she goes, I disagree.
Disagree with what?
Disagree with what?
What are you talking about?
Did he say it or didn't he say it?
unidentified
It was such a good pivot.
dave rubin
So it was almost like it was her and the media were planting something on Bernie.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, it was interesting too because If it was something that got dumped just the day before the debate so that then it gets brought up at the debates, and then she gets to pivot to, oh, let's have a conversation about how many elections we won, and now we're talking about women winning the presidency, which isn't even a real question.
No one's seriously like, a woman can't be president!
I mean, maybe there is somebody.
dave rubin
Yes, we have to always qualify that, otherwise people will say, Bridget, there's one person.
bridget phetasy
There's one, but I would say most people in 2020 believe a woman can be president and can win the election.
I think it's infantilizing to act like you have to, I don't deny sexism is real, but I hate when it's this, it's all about sexism.
And instead, as a woman, judge me on my merits and my ideas.
And if you don't like the quality of my character or you don't, you know, fair enough.
dave rubin
Jesus, easy there with that, Ayn Rand.
What are you doing?
Let's throw to Bernie, giving a little Bernie talk.
unidentified
Our infrastructure is crumbling.
Half of our people are living paycheck to paycheck.
87 million people have no health care or are underinsured.
We've got 500,000 people sleeping out on the streets tonight.
The American people are sick and tired of endless wars which have cost us trillions of dollars.
bernie sanders
Our job is to rebuild the United Nations, rebuild the State Department, make sure that we have the capability of bringing the world together to resolve international conflict diplomatically and stop the endless wars that we have experienced.
dave rubin
It says sort of good things mixed in with crazy things, so like, end wars.
Like, pretty much everyone's into that, and I would argue even that Trump is even into that.
But then he'll say something like, we must rebuild the UN.
Screw the UN.
The UN's crumbling, and it's like, nobody needs the UN.
The UN is the...
Legion of Doom, remember the Legion of Doom?
They were the guys that fought the Justice League.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
dave rubin
They're terrible, they're crumbling, we don't need them.
And he also said 87 million people have no health insurance or are underinsured.
So they're all basically admitting that Obamacare just didn't work.
bridget phetasy
Right, I don't know what that point, the point they're trying to make there.
dave rubin
Well, so much of what they run against now is about health insurance.
bridget phetasy
Right.
dave rubin
So that was Obama's, you know, that was his thing, right?
That was his blue chip thing.
bridget phetasy
I feel like if I did get really invested in learning the ins and outs and intricacies of something, it would be health insurance.
Because it's fun.
unidentified
It's super fun, but I don't understand.
bridget phetasy
It seems like the situation is fucked, right?
I do know people who have not gone to the ER because they couldn't afford it.
dave rubin
Yeah, but they can't turn you down.
unidentified
No, they can't, but people are going broke.
bridget phetasy
That is true.
People are in debt.
Every day I see a GoFundMe for medical bills.
There is something fundamentally... I have cousins in Europe and Canada and all over the world and they're like, you guys are ridiculous.
So, there is something that I think needs fixing, obviously.
But then, I don't know the first thing about how you go about fixing it.
dave rubin
Well, then they also say crazy things.
Like, with all that being said, that's true, that people go broke with things and, you know, all of that.
But then they say crazy things like, you not only, well, Medicare for all, like, it sounds good.
Everyone will have Medicare, so we'll all be good.
But that doesn't say anything about quality of care or how long you're gonna have to wait, or can the government actually do things, or the paperwork, or all the red tape.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and I don't know who, I don't know where the money goes.
dave rubin
Bernie had the heart attack, right, a couple weeks ago.
You know he got into the best doctor he could within two seconds on his special Senate plan.
It's like on Medicare for All, Bernie, you gonna wait like everybody else?
You're not.
unidentified
Come on.
bridget phetasy
And I'm not smart enough to know all these things, but is it the health insurance companies?
Is it the hospitals?
Who's really responsible for the prices?
dave rubin
Well, it's the health insurance companies, basically.
bridget phetasy
Is it, though?
dave rubin
Yeah, it's basically the health insurance.
bridget phetasy
Or is it what the hospitals charge?
dave rubin
Well, I think it's both, but you'd have, but at least, at least, at the very least right now, we have some level of competition, right?
So one of the things, when Bernie talks about Medicare for All, he also wants to get rid of private insurance, meaning you wouldn't even be able to supplement your own insurance privately.
Like, what right does he have to say to you, you can't just buy additional insurance or put more money into something?
bridget phetasy
And so many people from other countries come here for those surgeries too, because we have great doctors.
And then I look at it from another perspective, which is, I am a freelance, I've been freelance forever, and I have never had health insurance, I've never had a company pay for my health insurance, any of that.
dave rubin
You should come work for the Rubin Report, we pay 100% ladies!
bridget phetasy
Do you?
I've always paid myself, just private You know, whatever.
Every year it's gone up since Obamacare.
And then I had friends who were comedians or whatever and they'd be paying nothing.
And I'm paying for them.
I would get so mad.
I'm like, I'm paying for you.
dave rubin
Right, right, right.
They're just like doing nothing.
bridget phetasy
You're just not even working.
Yeah.
And I'm paying for you.
So that doesn't seem fair either.
dave rubin
You better work for them.
What are you, a capitalist or something?
bridget phetasy
I was just willing to wait tables and they didn't want to do that.
You know, so that bugs me too.
dave rubin
One more.
Let's show that Tom Steyer guy.
Or Tim Steener, whatever his name is.
Let's go, Tom.
unidentified
To do it, we should definitely be doing it in coalition with other countries.
And I want to point out that as we do that, we're confronted by this issue which everyone is talking about, but at the same time, there's a gigantic climate issue in Australia, which also requires the same kind of value-driven coalition building that we actually should be using in the Middle East.
dave rubin
Ridiculousness of him being up there.
I mean, there's literally no evidence that the fires in Australia have anything to do with climate change.
They've arrested, I think last I saw it was they had arrested 128 arsonists.
bridget phetasy
Oh, wow.
dave rubin
Also, Australia needs a certain amount of fires to happen so that it changes with forests and what plants.
bridget phetasy
Are you a climate changer?
dave rubin
No, but it's like, they're just, he needs the same coalition.
He won't.
The Coalition of the Middle East will be the coalition that will stop the Australian fires.
bridget phetasy
Somebody, when they were talking about the climate, they were like, there are, it might have been Mayor Pete, I'm not sure who said it, but they said, there are literally tornadoes of fire.
dave rubin
Tornadoes of fire.
bridget phetasy
And I was like, that's supposed to sound anything other than awesome.
dave rubin
That's like Sharknado.
There are tornadoes of sharks.
bridget phetasy
And there are tornadoes of fire.
I'm not denying that there are, but it didn't make it sound as terrifying as I think he meant it to.
sounded awesome.
dave rubin
But also, when he's talking about fire tornadoes, he's trying to spin it like he can solve it.
That's the thing, they keep saying, like, but I'll solve the fire tornadoes.
bridget phetasy
It's like that guy, do you remember the guy who went viral?
And he was down, he was almost the physical embodiment of Peter from Family Guy.
And he had the Hawaiian shirt on, and it was during the hurricane.
He's like, why can't we just get the Navy out there?
And they can put some ice in the ocean.
Why can't they just fly around and make it?
That's how they all sound to me.
dave rubin
I didn't see that, but right, it's just like, we're just saying stuff.
bridget phetasy
We're just going to do this.
I think being in California, we're a little desensitized to natural disasters, too.
dave rubin
You think we're desensitized to it?
bridget phetasy
No, I think that we're like, ah, fires.
You know, there's a part of it.
dave rubin
Well, Bernie said the thing tonight about climate change and talked about the fires in California.
bridget phetasy
Right.
dave rubin
And he said it's related to climate change.
I happen to live very close, I don't want to say exactly where, but all the fires that people have seen lately, I live in very much proximity to that.
One of them was started about a quarter of a mile down the road, and Bernie's screaming that the California fires are climate change.
It was a homeless encampment.
bridget phetasy
Right, right.
dave rubin
But they don't want to talk about that.
bridget phetasy
What's weird about the fires in California is that they'll be burning and everyone will just be driving around like business as usual.
We just drive by them.
So I think that, yeah.
dave rubin
Alright, we'll do a couple more and then I think we'll let the good people go.
Why doesn't anyone bring up that Russia conspiracy anymore?
What happened to that thing?
It's kind of funny.
bridget phetasy
It's like the migrant caravans.
Yeah.
I swear, this is when I believe- They were coming!
dave rubin
What happened to those migrant caravans?
bridget phetasy
We saw videos of them!
This is when I feel like we are living in a simulation, because then it just evaporates.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
It's like, they're coming, and you're like, oh my god, all these people!
And the caravans are like, poof, disappear, gone.
dave rubin
Russia, disappear, gone.
Right, well, did the caravan turn around?
I don't know!
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
Where are they?
dave rubin
All right, here's one, because you are intuitive.
How do we heal some of the divides and bring trust back to our society, especially with media bias?
bridget phetasy
Oh, gosh.
I mean, that's a lot to unpack.
What was the first part of the question?
dave rubin
How do we bring trust back to our society and heal the divide?
bridget phetasy
Healing the Divide, I think, starts with the individual.
I did a great interview with Pamela Peresky today.
She's writing a book, The Habits of the Free Mind, Psychology for Democracy.
She did a lot of the research for the guys who did The Coddling of the American Mind.
dave rubin
They had the three great untruths.
bridget phetasy
And so they had the three great untruths, and she has kind of the antidote in the habits
of the free mind, which is, she said, courage.
Curiosity and compassion.
And I really loved that.
And Chloe Valderi does a great job talking about, you know, not seeing everyone as the other, that us versus them, trying to be curious.
So critical thinking.
We were talking the other day about who's your trusted news source.
So part two of that question with the media bias, I don't, they thrive off this division.
They're profiting off of it.
You know, that, that, that, how do you, I always think of Jonah Goldberg saying to me, there's no money in nuance, kid.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
I mean, the best example I can think of, this is an easy personal one for me, but a couple months ago, I remember when there was that thing online, suddenly this new frog white nationalist group was coming out of nowhere.
It doesn't even matter to get into their specifics.
But we knew that they were going to a bunch of events where Shapiro was speaking and Charlie Kirk was speaking and I was speaking and a few other people.
So I did this event at Sacramento State and there were, it was about 300 people there and there were probably about like 30 or 40 of them in the crowd and I could tell because they sit there and they're very angry and they have crumpled papers in front of them because they're ready to get to the mic at the end.
And local news was there because they were expecting all hell to break loose.
bridget phetasy
Right.
dave rubin
But I gave a great speech and then during the Q&A, I made sure to let each one of them go up first.
I said, if you ever disagree with me, you come up first.
And I answered all their questions directly and I didn't mock anybody or blah, blah, blah.
And then local news didn't do anything with the story because there's no story in that effect.
So all hell broke loose.
Had someone thrown something at me?
Had I fought with somebody?
Had there been a riot?
It's the lead story, it's the CNN.
But because something good and mature and decent happened, it doesn't make any news.
Nobody hears anything about it.
Not only that, but then I asked the news people, because they had the full video of the entire thing, I said, could I have the video?
We'll credit you.
Can I put it on my channel just to show people a good example of how to do discourse?
They were like, no, we don't release those videos.
bridget phetasy
If it bleeds, it leads.
dave rubin
Yeah, so that's sort of like, how do you heal that?
It's like, I don't know, the economic incentives have to change related to media?
bridget phetasy
And I'm guilty of it.
There's a part of me that I can't sit here and say that I don't take pod shots at the last minute.
dave rubin
You have never.
bridget phetasy
I'm constantly making fun of the lefties and the MAGAs.
I definitely fuel some of the fire myself, so maybe I have to do a little bit of self-inventory, but it's so fun!
dave rubin
Your show is called the Weekly Dumpster Fire.
I know.
Is Mayor Pete a match with Senator Sanders for a heart transplant?
That's a good one, because wouldn't that be something?
You take the heart of Pete and you put it in the old bones.
bridget phetasy
That doesn't seem fair to Pete.
dave rubin
That doesn't seem fair to Pete.
All right, I guess we're not going to do that.
No.
Let's see.
We'll just do a couple more here.
bridget phetasy
I like the thoughtful ones.
dave rubin
Yeah, alright, the thoughtful ones.
So there's a lot, I mean this tells you a lot about my audience, but it's a lot of basically what I would say are former lefties who are just saying... Confused.
Will it ever end?
Will what ever end though?
The craziness of the left.
Will it just ever end?
Someone said, tell Bridget I was just joking when I said that her Phetasyland post was the worst advertisement ever.
I'm guessing that's some sort of insider thing for you.
bridget phetasy
No, that was one of your members.
dave rubin
That was one of my people?
Oh, with those people.
Thank you.
bridget phetasy
Thank you for clarifying that.
dave rubin
Yeah, let's see.
unidentified
Because I posted a picture of Hope.
dave rubin
Why is it that the school system is never a real and big political topic when we know that there's maybe no second mechanism with such a huge and deep influence on the future of society?
You know, it's interesting.
Well, they talk about education.
One of the things that I always say is that Bernie wants free college for everybody.
It's not because he wants everybody to be Equally knowledgeable about everything or truly learn about everything.
It's because if you ever wanted to get people indoctrinated Leftism, where would you send them?
Yeah, you'd send them to college, especially if you're gonna state fund the college you'd send them there So he wants them and this video that project Veritas just put out of one of his Campaign people that's what the guy was saying.
We're gonna have to send I mean he was saying it in Some sloppy language, but basically saying, after Bernie wins, we're gonna have to send all these Nazis, meaning people who don't support Bernie, to college, like re-education camps, to learn how to not be Nazis.
bridget phetasy
Oh my gosh.
dave rubin
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
That just gets thrown around so loosely.
Did you see Jojo Rabbit?
dave rubin
No.
bridget phetasy
It was so good.
It was so well done.
Is that a movie?
Yeah, it's a movie that came out.
It's a satire.
It's about a little young Nazi kid.
I don't want to give it all away.
It's brilliantly done.
But it really...
It makes, it reminds you who the Nazis were and what happened.
And just, we all joke about it so loosely now, and it's so, it's crazy how that has become such a, that word's been flattened to last all meaning, as so many other words.
dave rubin
Well, especially also because the people that use the word Nazi all the time are the same people who scream about cultural appropriation all the time, right?
So it's like, You don't want people to have a certain haircut
because that might offend somebody, but you can joke or you can just label anyone you want a
Nazi.
Like I grew up around Holocaust survivors.
I had a lot of Holocaust survivors that were in my family or that were friends of the family that I knew.
And it was like, I know, fortunately not firsthand, but I know secondhand what that thing is.
And then these people literally calling me a Nazi.
bridget phetasy
It's just throwing it around, like, Trump is Hitler.
It's very disrespectful to the entire thing.
dave rubin
Hitler had Jewish grandchildren, didn't he?
unidentified
Yeah, it's all kind of gross.
dave rubin
Alright, one more?
Should we do one more?
bridget phetasy
Let me see a good one here.
dave rubin
Let me see a good one here.
I like this.
It's on the fly.
This is real.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I like it.
dave rubin
We have no IFBs.
There's no big producers screaming in our ear.
I'm canceled, probably.
bridget phetasy
I'm like, this was great!
And then I leave, and it's just like... Your whole career could be over.
I'm gonna be like, Dave, I need that 100% health insurance, please.
I've been canceled.
dave rubin
Just submit your resume to jobs at rhythmreport.com.
Oh my gosh.
This is a good one.
And by the way, guys, there are a million great questions here, and I'm sorry that we obviously couldn't get to everything.
And I will try to personally go in and respond to as many of these as I can tomorrow and over the next couple days.
Okay, so the big question, Dan, this whole thing, is who do you think, out of those people, if it's one of those people, gets the nomination?
bridget phetasy
I think it's Bernie.
dave rubin
You think it's Bernie?
So you think we're just, that's where this is all, this is all head up, this is all headed to just sort of rise of Skywalker, like good versus the good, the light versus the dark, good versus evil, socialism versus capitalism, like it just, that is that.
bridget phetasy
Well right now, from my energetic Marianne Williamson witch vibes, It feels like, it feels like Bernie has momentum right now.
Yeah.
And it feels like he's got the, the thermals are lifting him, you know that?
Mm-hmm.
And honestly, He's probably the only one who could beat him.
If anyone can beat him at all, I really do think it's probably only Bernie.
I don't see any of those other people being able to compete to go head-to-head with him.
dave rubin
You mean just purely on stage?
And you know who else?
bridget phetasy
Well just, no also I think with independents, well maybe not.
dave rubin
No independents.
bridget phetasy
No independents.
But still they're, I don't know.
dave rubin
I know what you mean on stage.
bridget phetasy
He might get some of the burn it all down votes that will matter.
People who just might, he, so.
An independent, I think, someone who's more moderate might get those independents who are on the fence, and they can't stomach it, so then they vote Democrat, if it's a moderate Democrat.
But I think Bernie could get the, I'm sitting this shit show out, vote to come out.
And I also think, you know who else thinks this?
Trump.
Because he's been taking pot shots at him left and right.
I think a lot in the past week.
dave rubin
The last couple days it seemed like it.
bridget phetasy
I think his spidey sense is also like, ooh, Bernie's got the momentum.
He seems to be focusing on him.
dave rubin
You know what's funny though?
It's like we talk about momentum and then it's like, then we have the first Iowa caucus and then suddenly some weird thing happens and then like Tom Steyer's president.
Or Tom Ding Dong, whatever his name is.
But yeah, my What's your gut?
Well, my gut feeling, if you're just doing the momentum right now, like where is the energy?
It's Bernie, for sure.
Just knowing the way the DNC is and how corrupt they are and how the machine works, they're gonna push Biden's old bones across the finish line.
That's what my general gut would be, but I will throw out one other crazy conspiracy theory.
I think I put this on Twitter, but I've never said it on the videotape, which is that I think Bloomberg, the only reason he's running, People think he's running to destroy Trump, but Bloomberg's running on the off chance that Bernie or Elizabeth Warren, but more so Bernie, if he gets the nomination, Bloomberg then runs as an independent.
To get all of the decent liberals and the disaffected, just the people that don't want to be socialists, thus causing Trump to win because at the end of the day Bloomberg is still a capitalist and he would rather have Trump than Bernie.
That's a pretty weird twist on the way people are talking about his name.
bridget phetasy
Do you think he would pull anyone from Trump?
dave rubin
No.
You don't pull any Trump people, but you'd get a certain amount of New York liberals, some old school liberals.
You'd get some business Republicans, maybe.
bridget phetasy
You don't think he would pick up maybe somebody?
dave rubin
You'd get the Never Trumpers.
bridget phetasy
OK.
dave rubin
Something like that.
But you lose the entire base.
But even if you then get 6%, or even if you get 4%, you probably ensure that Trump wins.
And at the end of the day, he wants to live in a capitalist society versus Bernie.
bridget phetasy
Do you think that more people have That Trump has picked more people up?
dave rubin
Since, from then to now.
Yes, without question.
I meet so many people that, I'm talking about regular people, that if you get them talking a little bit, suddenly you're like, oh, you too?
There's another one, and another one.
bridget phetasy
Even in California, that's what I was gonna say.
Uber drivers.
I sense there's a underbelly of libertarianism that's starting to, and even republicanism that's becoming more open.
dave rubin
Yeah, I mean it's so funny because you hit this before but it's like if you literally, if the election comes down to do boys have penises and girls have vaginas and one person says yes and the other one says no, it's like most people are going to vote for the yes guy.
bridget phetasy
Right.
dave rubin
You know, as stupid as this is.
bridget phetasy
I think it's physiological.
You know, I think it's something, it's like people have a biological or some kind of physical response to that.
It's primal.
They're like, uh, nah, that one.
dave rubin
Fantasy, do you have any other sage wisdom before we shut this thing down?
bridget phetasy
No, thanks for having me.
dave rubin
I think this was more worthwhile than CNN.
Well, I have no doubt that it was worthwhile than CNN, but this was honest, real stuff from people trying to make some sense of the madness, and I think that is more valuable in a lot of ways than... I have a lot of questions.
Most of the questions on here were from you to me, which was a little odd.
We'll deal with that.
But for real, we do have a zillion questions on here, and I promise you that I will respond to as many as I can.
Maybe Bridget will jump in there as well.
Perhaps Bridget has an announcement coming.
Oh, and the guest on the Rubin Report next week is...
bridget phetasy
It's me.
dave rubin
Bridget Phetasy.
bridget phetasy
You guys can't get enough of me.
dave rubin
Weird world world.
All right, thanks for watching everybody.
We're going to do more of these.
And another thing I'm thinking about doing, if you're interested, is we have an ability now to Skype in four people at once in boxes.
And I was thinking maybe we could start doing some live call-in shows and some other interesting stuff.
So this was just a little test this week and seeing how the community worked.
And I think everything worked out well.
Hope you enjoyed it.
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