Brandon Tatum, former Arizona police officer and Blexit co-founder, argues that single-parent households and cultural individualism drive societal decay, refuting claims of inherent police racism by citing statistics showing more white people are shot unarmed. He condemns Democratic reparations as financially futile and politically manipulative, predicting a mass Black voter defection due to party hypocrisy exemplified by the Congressional Black Caucus. Tatum defends Donald Trump as a necessary "battering ram" for conservative policy goals, asserting that most Black Americans remain culturally conservative through faith and entrepreneurship despite media narratives exploiting racial emotions for profit. [Automatically generated summary]
I've got a flag over there, big American flag over there, Constitution, Declaration of Independence.
So we're off to a good start.
All right, there's a lot of stuff I want to talk to you about.
I've wanted to have you in here for a while.
So first off, for people that know absolutely nothing about you, I don't know anything about your childhood, upbringing, family life, that kind of stuff, before we get into law enforcement and Blexit and the rest of it.
I was actually gonna do some of this stuff later, but, so this obviously relates to the black family, and every time anyone talks about this, If you're white, let's say, they're gonna immediately say you're racist for even bringing this up, and yet I hear this sort of story so often, that what is happening to the black family, or what has happened in, say, the last couple decades, is sort of the root of the problem here.
Do you think that's fair to say, and how did your dad not succumb to that?
You know, when you're a young man, you've grown up with no direction.
Where do you go?
Who do you look to?
You gotta look to people that are influential, males in the community, and they didn't have a dad.
So, you have a...
Kind of a matriculation of this fatherless home issue going on and people trying to be fathers without having examples of what a real father is.
So now you go into gang members and other dudes like our cousins, you know, and we didn't have to because we had a strong dad which helped us, but you still want to be like your big cousins because they're cool and it's, you know, it's kind of trendy what they're doing and it leads young men down the wrong path.
But unfortunately, and I guess fortunately for me, my father was a strong man and I think that him not having his dad around really made him feel like, you know, I need to do better.
And my dad obviously had a little bit of training being a father
because he had to help take care of his younger brothers.
And so my dad probably always had that in him.
But him being a strong man, him standing on principles really saved us.
I'm not gonna lie.
You know, my mom is great.
My mom was way more lenient than my dad.
You know, my mom was the cool mom.
You know what I mean?
And I hate to say it, we kind of took advantage of that.
Me and my brother didn't have as much respect for my mom as we did my father.
He was strict.
No cussing in the house.
Back in the day, we had no cell phones.
You know, he'll pick the phone up while you're talking to somebody on the phone and be like, it's time to go to bed.
You know, and hang the phone up on you.
It was really beneficial.
And if I didn't have my dad, I would not be here today.
You know it because when you start to diss or people take it as a diss to the fabric of who they are, the cultural identity, people get offended by it, right?
It's hard for humans, for people to take responsibility for their own action.
It's very difficult, you know, so people like to divert.
In the black community, culture is what's really destroying us, right?
I mean, it's culturally acceptable more now than it was, I don't know, in the 40s, 50s, 60s, for you to be in a single-parent home.
To be on your own and do your thing as a young man.
Listen to the music that most of us listen to.
Banging a few girls here and there, it makes you a man.
You're cool.
You're popular.
You don't have to stay around with a woman.
You can hit it, have a kid out of wedlock.
Most of the dudes that's rapping, most of the potential leaders are doing the same thing.
You know, so I think we've been set off on the wrong path, and when you're confronted with those issues, instead of internalizing and saying, look, this is our fault.
We need to get back to this.
Why are we not marrying these women that we're having kids with?
Why are women not having the expectation to date and to be with a man who's stable, who can provide for them?
Not somebody that can provide for them for one night.
Not somebody that can provide flashiness, but stability.
Also in the culture, stability is almost viewed upon like you're acting white.
When I was growing up and you would do well in school, people would say, well, you're trying to be like the white man.
You know, if you want to have your pants like it's supposed to, tuck your shirt in and say, you know, I'm going to marry women.
I'm not going to disrespect women.
I'm telling you, I don't know how it is in every high school around the world, you know, in the black community, but I know how mine was.
And you're getting shunned.
I remember we had some guys who were virgins in high school and in college.
I mean, you get bullied.
There's something wrong with you if you're not having sex.
That's cultural, man.
And I feel like if that changed, we may be able to return back to saying, let's value our women, let's value relationships.
It's so interesting the way the media uses culture sort of against everybody.
Did you see just in the last couple of days, there was this piece in Vox about how Andrew Yang should stop using toxic terms like math and that people should become doctors because those are associated with the Asian community, except, Those are the things we should all aspire for, and they're trying to make them toxic.
And that's the reverse of what you're laying out there.
And that's what my goal is in life, is to give young brothers a different perspective.
Now, don't get me wrong.
I used to be sagging my pants.
I had gold teeth in my mouth.
I got Young Savage tattooed across my stomach.
I got my hood tattooed on my forearms.
You know, so I understand what it's like to be involved in that.
I understand what it's like to want to be a part of that culture, but I also understand what it's like to change.
You know, and it took me finding God to really take that step and change in a different direction, and I realized, man, this is the way things should be, and we shouldn't be ashamed to be like this.
How can you exist in an environment where you hate white people but you're only 13% of the population?
How can you exist in that environment?
You're going to find yourself hating almost everybody you're around.
You're going to find yourself You know screwing yourself out of opportunities because if you're looking at your boss as the enemy are you going to perform well on your job?
Are you going to be more willing to try new things or go up in the ranks?
Are you going to have the I guess the spirit for you to visualize success when all you think is you know that you're being oppressed by the white man?
So some of that was in me growing up.
You know, I grew up in an all-black community.
I never dated a white girl.
It was shunned in my community.
Growing up, you date a white woman, you're gonna get bullied.
You'll sell out.
You know, so I had none of that exposure.
Never was really around white people consistently.
Mostly around black people.
Everything in my life was Afrocentric.
I got to college and my eyes were opened up to a certain degree because now everybody's white.
And it's like, 35 of us, you know, it is a little more than that.
Probably about a couple hundred, but most of us were athletes.
Like, it sounds silly, eating with white people, no one's hunting down, but like, that transition, as you were starting to realize it, to break the old mold of thinking, like, how hard is that?
I was 100% I was gonna get drafted, because my agent had talked to the Oakland Raiders at the time, and they said to my agent, we're gonna draft him in the sixth or seventh round.
He's gonna be the only safety that we draft.
Because of my athletic ability.
I didn't play much at all at Arizona, but I was, All-american in high school.
I was one of the top players in the nation I was probably I was I was what we considered a freak athlete and so because of the athleticism even though I didn't play at all The Oakland Raiders still was thinking about drafting me.
They told him they were gonna draft me.
We had a draft party It was on my birthday.
Oh, I mean, I've been praying about this and I said God is gonna Make it happen And draft day came, he called me, he said, hey, they making some changes.
I don't know what they're doing.
They didn't draft me.
Come to find out they didn't draft me because the college coach that they went and talked to right before the draft, he bad mouthed me and talked really bad about me.
And so my agent told me that that's why they passed on me.
They didn't want to take a chance with me given the circumstances.
So I was hurt, man.
I was devastated.
Um, but I met a guy who's, he was a tremendous mentor to me.
Tremendous.
The guy, very successful millionaire.
I'll give you his first name was John.
Um, I don't want to, I don't know if he's comfortable me giving his full name, but this guy was a entrepreneur, CEO of a major world comp.
Um, it was like a worldwide company that he owned, had his own private jet, all of these things.
And his daughter played volleyball with me and my son's mom.
I think I could go back with me and her end up having a child at some point, but he his daughter played with my son's mom and that's how he met me.
And so he mentored me through the process and he told me something that that was pivotal just like my dad telling me that in the car.
He told me he said Brandon you pursue football.
As much as you can, with everything you have, and at the moment in which it's not yielding any results, you need to put an X on the calendar and move on.
And I tried it out for another year.
I said, man, this is not doing anything.
I put an X on the calendar while I was applying for the police department.
So let me go back because there's some things missing here.
During my college career, I met a young lady and we had a kid together.
And we weren't married, so we had a kid out of wedlock, which was a whole story in and of itself.
Because I was in the church, I was in the choir, and I had to sit out the choir.
It was a lot of things that happened in the church because of this.
I think it's important to say.
So, we had a kid, and we were having a son.
Me and her was on two different pages, right?
I was in the church, we made a mistake, but I didn't believe in abortion.
She, on the other hand, was pro-abortion.
And I remember we had a conversation about it.
She told me, look, I just want to see how far along I am.
And that was our communication.
I went to Planned Parenthood with her.
At the time, I didn't know what Planned Parenthood was.
I thought it was a little clinic for women and whatever.
Now I know it's a little bit of a different perspective.
But at the time, I didn't know.
I went with her to, you know, to see how far along she was.
At the front door of the facility, she said, I want you to know I'm having an abortion.
And I was hurt, man, I was hurt.
People don't think that men matter in these women's choice situations, but they do.
It was the idea that I had no idea what police did, and I thought I did, right?
Watching cops, listening to people online.
I realized that people that have never put on a badge and actually served as a police officer, they have very limited understanding of policing, period.
I mean, limited to like 10% of an understanding, even less than that.
If you know somebody that's a police, you may have a little more, but I had no idea.
Completely a different world.
It's completely a different job than people know about.
Emotionally, Legally, you know, the training, I mean, all of that is completely different.
And I got a taste of that, even after all the training, my first arrest was where I was like, this is real, man.
This is real.
I really have the power to take somebody's freedom away.
And this is not a role player, what we call them in the academy, where somebody's faking to be a criminal.
This is a real person with real emotions, a real life, and they can really kill you too.
And that was a pivotal point and an eye-opening point for me.
No, growing up in Fort Worth, I became a police officer in Tucson.
But there was remnants of that, right?
You had a black community in Tucson.
You arrested people that look like people that you grew up with, act like people you grew up with, like my cousins and grandma, you know?
And so dealing with that kind of give you a little, you know, flashbacks of what went on.
And I got to see it from both sides.
All of that horrible stuff I thought they did to us when we were in a vacant house, how they treated us and all that stuff, I realized that them officers was right.
They did what they're supposed to do.
Getting a call of that nature, not knowing who to expect, knowing that we die on a day-to-day basis from calls simply like that.
And that really, you know, made me really, really open my understanding to it.
We can't, but some people need to know that because watching the media every day, if you're not an informed person or you're not a person that's a leader and you can lead with your own thoughts, you're a follower, you'll fall into that stuff.
But it's very difficult to be a racist on a police department.
And one of the biggest reasons why is because you can't pick who you serve.
And the least racist people, in my opinion, are the white police officers that work in the black community.
Because you put your life on the line every day for black folks.
You are willing to die for black folks.
You have to visually see and feel the pain and hurt in the community when brothers getting shot every day.
People don't realize that police are the ones that have to put those young brothers in body bags.
I don't care who you are.
When you see a young man with his brains hanging out, Clinging for life.
Maybe even pleading for his life.
Gurgling in blood.
The age of your son, the age of your nephew, cousin, somebody that looks like your mom, your grandmother, a young baby that's been shot through the head from a drive-by.
I don't care what race you are, man.
It messes with you.
And for people to think that these white officers are these cruel, evil people that don't have any sense of emotions or attachment to human life.
These people are... The people that are pushing this rhetoric are evil and liars.
You put these young people in body bags every day.
You go to their mom, grandmother, and you look that lady in the face, trying to hold back your own tears, because you could only imagine losing your son.
Some of these women have lost all of their children to gang violence.
And you gotta look her in the eye, and you gotta be strong for her and everybody else and say, I'm sorry, but he's never coming back.
And...
That's what people don't understand happens.
And I also believe that it's racist, in my opinion, to make the projection that white officers are targeting black people in the community.
And one of the main reasons is that you would have to assume that all black people are bad.
Think about this for a minute.
If officers are afraid of black people, that means that all of them are doing something that will lead officers to be afraid of them.
That's not true.
It's only a few dummies.
That are destroying the community.
What about grandma now?
Who been robbed.
They call the police for help.
Some woman have been raped.
They call the police for help.
Officers are seeing another side of black people that they don't want to tell you about.
But they project it so people can be divided.
And I think that's the biggest thing that bothers me about it.
So since you were probably uniquely positioned in Arizona as an officer to go to some of these communities and talk to some of these people, do you think you were able to wake up some young kids that were up to no good in a way that maybe a white officer just wouldn't have been able to, as well-intentioned as he might be?
I think young people and black people in general, You know, I was considered the black person whisperer, right?
I'm serious.
Like, we would go on calls, and black people would be like, oh man, F that, you know what?
I don't want to talk.
Man, where the black officer at?
Man, come on, brother, you know, tell them that I ain't.
They go to jail, just like they would with the white officer, but somehow they felt compassion because they felt they can identify with me.
And a lot of times, they would listen to me articulate to them, brother, it ain't what you think it is.
They didn't pull you over because you black.
You think they care about the color of your skin?
You got pulled over because you had a suspended driver's license.
Or your suspended registration.
Stop jumping to that conclusion because you are creating a scenario of frustration and conflict that doesn't need to be had.
An officer just comes over to you doing a routine, what we call a routine traffic stop, and now you hype.
Oh, you put me on because I'm black.
This is what that means to an officer when you say that, is that I'm a racist, right?
And I don't have any integrity at all.
And I didn't waste it all these years Develop and building what I've established and you're telling me that I'm willing to throw that away and I have no integrity, I don't care about my family, I don't care about my pension or nothing because I want to racially profile you.
As if I'm that shallow-minded.
Well, you better believe you're probably about to get a ticket.
And I think people don't understand that they start the conversation off very wrong when they do that.
A lot of officers let it go.
But some officers that you catch on camera, sometimes they don't take it lightly.
More often than not, they felt that they could identify with me.
One reason why I think God kind of put an anointing on me that allowed me to reach people uniquely, black, white, or whatever, the fact that I didn't curse on the job helped me reach people uniquely.
Because when the stuff is hitting the fan, the only person that sounds as if he has integrity, or not just integrity, but sounds like he's calm just because I'm not Yelling curse words, people attract to me.
I feel like God gave me a gift to communicate as well.
So I was able to communicate with people and talk people out of suicide and all kinds of stuff.
Do you think it's possible that we're gonna also, and maybe we're there already, gonna
have a crisis in policing where good people forget their skin color, which I would prefer
to do all the time, but good people who are policemen won't want to work in black communities
because they know it will ultimately be an unwinnable situation.
You'll either have them turning on the black officer like you and you're the sellout and all that, and the white ones will just be like, well forget this, there's no win in this, I could be a great officer We've already seen it happen.
but one weird thing happens that gets twisted one way or another
or edited or whatever and my career's over.
So then you're gonna get a, I don't even know how you call it,
like a lower class of qualified people that are gonna work in the communities
Right, and then people are not gonna, they're not gonna be proactive in policing.
We've already seen it happen.
I mean, if people are now thinking that we're gonna get to that point,
you're way behind.
We're there.
We were there from Ferguson.
People don't realize it.
The crime rate in these areas are skyrocketing.
Officers, proactive policing is going down.
Listen, police are responsive, right?
They respond to crimes, right?
If me and you got into an altercation, I pulled a gun, I shot you, they're not there before I shoot you.
They come after the fact.
But, the greatness of policing, if it's done properly, is proactive policing.
Therefore, they've already had contact with me, understood that I'm a danger, I've probably gotten arrested for crimes I've done before, before I shoot you.
That is the way you police.
But the reason, I mean, what they're doing today is they're killing the spirit of officers being proactive.
Because you go, you see a guy doing a hand-to-hand.
People without the experience in law enforcement will say, oh, it's just a hand-to-hand.
No, that hand-to-hand has killed so many people in the community with drugs and crime and all this other stuff.
We see that.
We arrest the man hand-to-hand, we get into a scuffle with him.
Now, police brutality, we get fired.
Officers seize hand-to-hand and say, I'm not gonna care more than the community does.
Because It takes a lot, man.
So for you to risk life and death every day, putting your family through that, and at the end of the day, you want to get your pension.
And you lose your pension over something you did correctly, over something that you were justified in doing, but because the community became outraged, you lose it all.
We saw it in Baltimore.
All you got to do is look at the stats.
Baltimore, huge reduction.
Huge reduction in applicants.
California, huge reduction in applicants.
And we've seen this on the Tucson Police Department.
And they won't tell the public because the chief is a piece of crap.
But we had to dumb down the scores because we didn't have enough qualified people to join the police department.
When I was there, you had to make a 75 or above.
And this is a test that you can't study for.
You gotta come out the gate having a basic understanding.
Now, I think they put it down to like 40%.
Officers on the department are like... And I'm gonna tell you this.
Any department, you can look at the stats.
Tucson is a big example.
When they did this a while ago, You see officers getting fired all the time, officers doing bad stuff, they're skipping over backgrounds.
It is making policing in America more dangerous by the rhetoric that they're spewing, which is false.
These are lies that they're telling you.
Michael Brown, they're still talking about hands up, don't shoot.
Lie.
Eric Garner, I will fight to the death about the justification of use of force against Eric Garner.
Tamir Rice, all of these shootings and all these things, if you're a police officer,
you understand that these are justified uses of force.
Well, this is what I teach you in Academy, and I know this is not popular.
People would probably be mad at me for saying this.
We get taught in Academy, and when I first said this to me, I thought it was the most extreme thing in the world.
I'm like, oh, they're going too far.
What they teach you in the academy is that you, and not everywhere, in my academy, you have to be prepared to kill every single person you interact with.
You have to be prepared emotionally to kill every person that you interact with.
Because if you're not, you're going to die.
You're going to get killed.
And you're going to get all your other buddies killed.
So you have to be able to have the mindset that at any moment this person can turn on me.
Whether or not they're a kid, whether or not they're an elderly woman, because we've seen the spectrum of officers getting killed by all kinds of people.
You have to be prepared for that.
And people don't understand our perspective.
This is not a video game.
You don't get to hit the reset button.
When you die, you die for real and you're gone forever.
And the unique part of what we see is that we see people die every day.
We see the last breath.
We see a person pleading for their life.
And in the officer's mind, it's like, I don't want to look like that when I die.
I don't want my family to see me like this guy.
I don't want to be at my last breath, not being able to talk to my son on the phone.
You need to do the right thing or I'm going to, if it's me or you, I'm going to win.
People pose threats all the time, right?
Just think about how many... I pulled my gun when I was an officer four or five times a week.
People have guns.
I didn't escape death, I don't know how many times.
People don't see that side.
Every officer has their own perspective about life, right?
We may go to the same call, you may have been shot before.
I've never been shot, so I'm green behind the ear, I'm driving in there, no caution.
That other officer may have a reflection in the mind of, man, last time I got shot, because I did this.
Last time I got shot, I seen the guy pull it from here, but I didn't react fast enough.
They get to the call, here he go, pulling, now he's shot.
You get what I'm saying?
The moral of the story is that we do go through a lot, and if people understood, they would be able to see these shootings in a much clearer light.
All right, so let's shift this a little bit to politics, which will get us to Blexit.
So most of the cities, and you mentioned Ferguson, you mentioned Baltimore, the cities where there are the most shootings, Chicago, we can go through the list of these cities.
People don't seem to want to accept this, or at least mainstream media doesn't want to accept this, that these are Democrat-run cities.
But I thought Democrats like black people more than you mean Republicans.
When you say they, are you talking about like the political class?
Because I believe even for, I mean, you know enough about my political evolution, for as frustrated as I am with the lefties these days, most of them I think are just misguided.
I don't think they're bad people.
I don't think they're really trying to screw over black people or something like that.
The elite do it, and they're easy bumper sticker answers.
Give more money to this community for this.
Sounds good.
Get the police out.
Police are killing.
It all sounds kinda right, but I don't think the average person actually believes that.
But it's breaking through that layer of craziness.
You can even look at this in a spiritual sense of a pastor.
Right?
The people, the lay members, are receiving information from the pastor in hopes that he's acting in good faith to project the gospel.
Right?
He said he got a degree.
You believe him.
You're learning from him.
People in the Democratic Party, the people, the lay members, they are listening to these politicians, hoping that they're telling you the truth about immigration.
I don't know if it's people behind the scenes paying money or what.
They're working together to push an agenda.
Netflix.
I mean, all these things that are run by some of these Democratic elites, they have to.
You can't ruin their, I guess, reign over the people.
There's a difference between, and I'm not saying every Republican, right?
I'm more of a Trump Republican, right?
I don't like so many people in the Republican Party, and I think they haven't done much for the black community anyway.
Their outreach has been Poor to me.
I never seen none of them.
I never even knew they existed until I decided to look on the other side.
But when you look at it for what it is, the people in the Democratic Party, their focus is on power.
More so in the conservative movement or in the Republican Party, their focus is the people more so often.
We want you to be free, less government, whatever.
The Democrats won't power by any means necessary.
They will support border wall.
They will support strong immigration reform.
Then, when it's not advantageous for votes, they will switch it in the same conversation I have with you and act like it never happened.
As a person who's new to politics, just seeing Chuck Schumer and all of them once just advocate.
Barack Obama deported the most people in United States history out of any president.
And then they turn and they cry on TV.
And they make up this stuff.
They tell you if you come to a port of entry, you're going to be separated from your family, which is a lie.
If you come to a port of entry and you seek asylum, you go through a process for them to verify your asylum seeking request.
If you get busted over here, or you're trying to sneak through the border, that's when you get separated because now you're going through a criminal proceeding.
They know that, but they'll never tell you.
Because they need the votes.
They need power.
Why haven't any of these candidates been pandering as much to black folks?
Think about this.
They speaking in Spanish.
They on there talking about they're going to give every illegal free health care.
They want to get housing.
Why are they not saying, we're going to fix Chicago?
So we obviously swim in some of the same pools here.
So the first time we met was about a year ago at a Turning Point event.
You spoke right before me.
And it was one of the few times that I was like, oh man, because you have incredible energy, and the music you went up to, and you're just like knocking it out of the park.
And then obviously I'm a little more low-key.
So I was like, ah, I don't know if I can follow that.
But it all worked out.
But we go to a lot of the same events and things.
I find these people that are usually Trump supporters, but certainly people on the right, they don't care.
People can't, when I talk about it, they almost can't accept it.
They don't care about race.
They don't care about sexuality.
They don't care about gender.
They don't care about any of these issues.
They're really just saying, let me live.
That's it.
But it is hard.
Like, realizing that these people aren't bad.
Like, I even still now, years later, I go to some of these, like, some functions or something, and I'll be like, I can't believe these aren't the bad guys.
Republicans are like the nicest people that you know.
I'm not just saying Republicans.
I'm saying people that are more on a conservative spectrum.
You know, there's obviously Libertarian and it's flexible on that part, all the way to the far right.
But I feel like the people around the conservative side and viewpoint are the most generous people I've met, are the most realistic people.
They say, well, let's go by the Constitution.
Let's go by what's fair.
The other side seems to be more emotional.
It's not about what's fair.
It's not about, it's what I feel.
If one person have a, and they say, just say transgender for example.
If a transgender person, one person, not saying that we shouldn't acknowledge a person's feelings because God's mission is to love everybody.
But one person says, you know what?
I need a bathroom.
They are willing to say everybody's rights have to be restructured, everybody's feelings are thrown out of the loop because one person has a request that could infringe on everybody else, but we don't care because that person deserves to have this thing.
I was at a winery, and they didn't have male and female.
They only had all-gender restrooms.
So even where you wash your hands is the same area.
And this woman came out of the stall, and it was just obvious to me that she had just gone number two.
And it was like, we're like looking at each other and I, it was just, it was like something felt wrong.
You know what I mean?
Like, it was just like, why do we have to be standing here together right now?
So, okay, so let's just get, let's get this to, to Blexit.
Cause if we go down that, that path, it'll be a whole other thing.
I mentioned to you right before we started that when I had Candace Owens on originally, this is now like two plus years ago, when she was just a YouTuber with 100,000 subscribers.
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I didn't even know her name was Candace when we first booked her.
I said to my guys, we got to find out her name.
I don't even know what her name is.
Anyway, I had her in for an hour.
And I just knew in that hour that this girl was going to blow up.
And I'm proud to say that she sat in here and had a part of that.
We were just at her wedding a couple weeks ago.
You co-founded the Blexit movement with her, the idea that, the basic idea being, that black people don't have to be Democrats.
And Candace always says that it's the least, she always says, people think I'm so controversial, but it's the least controversial thing that you can say, because you shouldn't have to vote for a party just because of your skin color, and yet here we are.
Name a drug dealer that's like, hey man, you wasn't hustling all week and putting your life on the line.
Maybe you were sick that day.
Let me give all my drug money and split it with you because it's fair.
It's never going to happen.
Name a drug dealer that don't have a gun, that don't want their right to bear arms, you know, per se, to protect themselves.
And I know it's a weird analogy, but I think that it resonates because in the community, those things are not just the criminal element of it, but the conservative ideas.
The most religious people, I think per capita, is black folks.
We go to church every Sunday.
We shout in charismatic churches.
I mean, we'll throw a scripture at you in a minute.
We are the most conservative culturally, in my opinion.
At least growing up we were that way.
My dad didn't let you make excuses.
What do you mean you want somebody to hand something to you?
You better work for what you got.
My dad started at 18 years old on the fire department and now he's the chief.
My dad didn't put up with that.
It's unacceptable.
You don't want to be a coward.
You're a strong man.
These are the things that grandfathers used to say too.
And a lot of people in the black community still have remnants of that.
Grandma is strong.
Grandma used to say, it's either hell or jail if you want to act like that and sell drugs and be that way.
Black people adhere to that idea.
The structure of self I say entrepreneurship being an individual.
Think about music.
Think about culture.
Black people dominate culture because we created a unique idea on our own in many ways.
That is more of a conservative idea.
We don't want to be followers.
We don't want people telling us what to do.
We've always pushed the envelope as a community.
That's to me more of a conservative idea.
Look at the entrepreneurs going from drug dealing to being Billionaires!
Jay-Z and all these other people who took advantage of saying you can turn your life around and you can be an entrepreneur, you can make it as high as you want to.
Oprah Winfrey, you can keep naming them.
I'll tell you one that people really don't talk about is Madam C.J.
Walker, who's the first female millionaire out of any race in the early 1900s.
Millionaire!
They got pictures of her with white people driving around in the early 1900s.
So, we have always understood the entrepreneur spirit.
And for some reason, we believe that the Democrats are that side instead of the Republicans and we've been confused, in my opinion.
So back to Blexit, if we only understood I think we will change.
Because the other thing I said to you right before we started was the day that all the Democrats started talking about reparations, I called Candace and I said, this is because of you.
She caused such a freaking split where it needed to happen that suddenly the Democrats were like, all right guys, we're starting to lose you.
How about some cash?
Stay with us.
Here's a whole cohort in cash.
And what's the number?
I mean, that's the other thing.
It's like, there's never gonna be a number that's enough, right?
And then if you don't know anything, if you're not educated, you don't know anything about finances, your $100,000 is going to last you, what, I don't know, four months?
I've had a friend that had $2 million from a settlement, blew it all, have nothing to show for it.
Just giving somebody money is not going to help them at all.
So do you see, do you think going 2020, and you're obviously a Trump guy, do you think there's gonna be just a seriously massive shift in the black vote?
I'm not sure how much the turnout is gonna be, if that makes sense.
I think a lot of people are leaving the Democratic Party.
I think that's the biggest threat to them, is that people may not be on Trump train yet, all right?
Trump is like on a SWAT team where you have the RAM.
The first person banged through the doors, shards going everywhere.
It's chaos.
You throwing flashbangs in there.
Everything is confusing.
And then the people that come in are smooth after him.
Trump is causing a lot of the ruckus.
I believe that you may see more of it after Trump.
The residual effect of what he has done, you'll have more people actually going to vote because it is still a scary moment for black folks to even say they support Trump.
People like me, you know, what are you going to do to me?
People, I work on Trump stuff all the time.
What are you going to do?
they're not gonna fight me.
That's not gonna work out well for them.
So they don't say stuff to people like myself.
But if you live in a family or whatever, it's very difficult.
But what I will say is that when I first started doing things
about the same time Candace did, me and her met when she was red pill black.
And you know, it was like 90/10 maybe, black folks, a ratio on my page.
It ain't probably less than that.
Now it's like 60-40.
There's so many black people in my inbox, just flooding my inbox, saying, dude, you woke me up.
I can't say nothing.
My mama never killed me.
Last year at Young Black Leadership Summit, I had to call a kid's parent on the phone, because she didn't want her son to go because it was a conservative thing.
I said, ma'am, give the boy a chance.
Let him go.
And she ended up letting him go to the event.
But when he got home, they criticized him.
His family didn't want to do it.
His dad, I helped him get prepared to have a speech with his dad.
But if you look at any of the polls, you know, like I mean people may I'm not a real poll guy because they say had Hillary winning and I knew she was gonna lose and she lost but you can have somewhat of an indication of what people are thinking.
I'm on the side of saying that about 20% on a Fox did one around 20% the NAACP did one that people never talk about around 20% and I think Rasmussen around 30% What about that moment during the State of the Union when Trump talked about all-time low black unemployment, and they showed the picture of the Congressional Black Caucus, and nobody applauded?
I don't know how other people felt, but to me, it really almost made tears come out of my eyes.
You know, Chris Rock, cops need a certain amount of crime, which I know is probably a little touchy for you, but every group needs a little something to stay in business, and they know that they're gonna go out of business if actually we stop worrying about what race people are.
Right, NAACP, all these other organizations, You know, Al Sharpton, all of them are going to be unemployed.
They need to do these things, but it hurts people.
It hurts them, and it helps people that's on my side.
Because all I can do is point to them and say, if anything, whether you like them or not, when you say that black people are having the expression of historic low unemployment, At least do this.
Martin Luther King would be rolling in his grave so fast, he'd be catching on fire.
He'd be rolling so hard.
These people are evilness to our community.
They are dead.
It's almost like in the Bible, the Pharisees and all the people who were the leaders and rulers and they were just doing all this phony stuff and they didn't care about the people anymore and it was all about them and all their religious, all this stuff that don't mean anything.
This is exactly what the black folks in these high positions are doing.
How dare you help the black community when we didn't do it?
All right, so then as a Trump guy, I got one more for you to sort of wrap this all together.
So for all the people that hear you, that hear so much, I mean, your message is so consistent with so many things that I talk about, about identity politics, frustrated with the Democrats, what's going on with the progressives, all of that, but there's still a certain amount of people, and I think it's a large amount of people, actually, that see all of it, and they go, there's still an aversion to Trump, to whatever it is that Trump is.
If he's not controversial, if he's not standing up for himself, they're not gonna cover him properly.
And then everybody gonna think he's a monster.
He has to go on Twitter and be controversial.
He has to draw attention to himself to a certain degree, which some people don't like.
But people have to understand how significant Trump is in this entire big picture, right?
I don't like everything he does.
I love Trump, man.
I'm a Trumpster.
I don't like everything he does.
Sometimes I wish he wouldn't get into fights with certain people.
Some people say it's necessary.
Sometimes I'm like, come on, man.
Sometimes when, you know, he do some speeches and whatever, I wish he was more crisp.
I wish he was more charismatic in certain cases.
But I see the bigger picture.
I'm looking at the Supreme Court justices.
I'm looking at policies.
I'm looking at him setting a standard for supporting law enforcement in this country.
I'm seeing him set standards that I'm saying, okay, I'm okay with you not being perfect, but you are opening up so many more opportunities and doors that the next person that come in may be a little more polished, but you have saved America in the process.
I don't expect people to feel like this man, and nobody does this anyway.