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glenn beck
Hello, I'm Glenn Beck and welcome to this very special episode of The Rubin Report.
Joining me today is a man who I think has done the impossible in something that I would love to do.
He has taken a whole month away, the entire month of August.
No phone, no news, no media, no opinions were necessary, nothing for an entire month.
Welcome, Dave Rubin, to your own show.
dave rubin
It's good to be here, Glenn.
I gotta tell ya, I told my whole team this morning that I never, truly, I never get nervous for any of the stuff that I do.
I don't get nervous for interviews, I don't get nervous for stand-up or touring or any of that stuff, speaking of colleges.
I woke up this morning and I was actually kinda nervous.
Nervous?
Not about whatever you're gonna tell me.
I mean, we literally could be in World War III right now.
God only knows what's happened.
I have no idea what's happened, truly.
I have received no advance warning.
glenn beck
You, like, haven't spoken to your mother?
dave rubin
I haven't spoken to my mom in weeks.
Nobody.
I completely...
Shut down.
Completely shut down.
But the idea of just jumping right back into the internet, just this machine that people like us live on, but that we all live on to a degree, is a little, like I'm actually having a little bit of anxiety right now.
glenn beck
I took two weeks off, had the same exact feeling, to where you're like, I don't know if I want to stick my toe back into that, because you know it's, I mean, Yeah, we'll get to some of that.
dave rubin
Well, you know, the thing is that, look, I love what I do, and I've realized, one of the things that I really realized this month, or last month, is just how blessed I am to just do what I think is right and what I want to do, and it's growing, and I'm gonna make a couple announcements at the end of this about Things that we're expanding on and all that, and it's fantastic, but then there's this other side of it that is really making people crazy, and we all kind of know it, and we talk about it, right?
And I talk about it with a lot of guests about, you know, just the way Twitter is, and the fighting, and all of these things, and the way politics is devolving, but then when you really step away from it, and I had a couple days on a beach, and I would watch people that were just, you know, laying out at the beach, oceans crashing in front of them, And they're staring at their phones the entire time.
glenn beck
What are you doing?
dave rubin
They legitimately seem crazy.
Like, I started feeling like the last sane man, you know?
So it was wild, and I know you have plenty of questions, and you're going to write me on things.
glenn beck
I want to talk to you about taking that time off, and I want to explore what you just said, how people look crazy, because I think we are going into some sort of an insanity with all this.
But I just want to give I want to give the audience a sneak peek, and you.
They will know the answer to this if they've been paying attention, but you will have no idea.
And as I was preparing last night, I thought, I could read these headlines.
If I had been unplugged, I could read these headlines and I would have absolutely no idea which was true and which was false.
dave rubin
Okay?
glenn beck
Alright.
So I'm going to give you two truths and a lie.
unidentified
Okay?
glenn beck
So I'm going to give you two headlines that are true.
One is a lie.
I'm going to do two sets of... I want you to guess.
I'm not going to tell you.
We'll reveal it here in a minute.
dave rubin
I'm a little rusty related to reality right now.
unidentified
Okay.
glenn beck
Headline number one.
Trump wants to buy Greenland.
Headline number two, Trump suggests we nuke the hurricane.
And headline number three, AOC triggered over a cardboard cutout.
dave rubin
Well, that one sounds real to me.
That one definitely sounds real to me.
Before I give you the answer, I just have to say one thing about Trump, because when you're off the grid, you realize that not everyone is talking about Trump all the time.
unidentified
No one.
glenn beck
Almost no one is.
dave rubin
Well, the funny thing is, so for a couple of the days, so I really, even though I wasn't online doing things, I was working in my own way.
And as you know, my book got released right before I left and I was doing things related to that and editing and a bunch of other stuff.
But for a couple of days, we went away, and we were at this resort, and I'm doing the beach thing, and in the mornings, they would give all the people a sheet of paper with the news, in whatever language people were saying, the French one, Italian, English one, and the only thing I saw all month was, I just saw two words, Trump vows, and then I looked away, and I just thought, whatever it is, vows to blow up Greenland, or buy Greenland.
glenn beck
No, no, buy Greenland, blow up the hurricanes.
dave rubin
Yeah, blow up hurricanes, whatever it is, it's like, man, it'll happen whether I pay attention, So to answer your question, the cardboard cutout triggering AOC, that sounds very legit to me.
unidentified
Right, which could be a trick.
dave rubin
Trump saying he's going to blow up a hurricane sounds like the type of thing that he would say to trigger the entire media and then make it sound like he thinks he can blow up hurricanes.
And then the other one was that he said he's going to buy Greenland.
That's funny to me, that one sounds like, the hurricane one sounds so stupid that I think it's real.
The AOC one sounds within pretty much the rhythm of everything.
So I'm going Trump buying Greenland.
glenn beck
Trump buying Greenland is false.
dave rubin
Is false.
glenn beck
Okay, we'll come back to that here in a second.
dave rubin
You're not gonna tell me though?
glenn beck
Not gonna tell you yet.
Okay, the second one.
Study finds humans are biased against robots of color.
Headline number two, trans activist Jessica Yaniv, do you remember?
dave rubin
Yeah, yeah.
glenn beck
Trans activist Jessica Yaniv tweets, she can't go into the pool today because her period started and she forgot her tampons.
Or headline number three.
dave rubin
I miss the internet.
glenn beck
NYU gender studies department says milking cows is like sexual assault and raping cows.
Which one is real?
unidentified
There's two real.
dave rubin
I feel like you're pulling a fast one on me.
These are all real.
That's what it sounds like to me, but oh god.
The Jessica Yeniv one, because that story about this... Waxing.
Yeah, the wax, you know, suing somebody because of waxing.
That sounds right to me, like that sounds within the realm of the insanity that that thing had been about, so I'll put that one aside.
glenn beck
All right.
dave rubin
What was the first one?
glenn beck
The first one was the Jessica Yeniv, I think.
No, no, no.
It was a study finds humans are biased on robots of color.
dave rubin
Yeah, that sounds legit to me.
There's definitely going to be robot racism coming.
glenn beck
And so it's the NYU study that says milking cows is akin to rape.
dave rubin
God, that sounds real, too.
I'm gonna say milking cows.
glenn beck
Okay, all right, all right.
So now, we'll put that at rest here.
dave rubin
Jesus Christ, this just, I'm glad that you started this.
glenn beck
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because that's not, those aren't really the insane ones.
dave rubin
Oh, those weren't the big stories of the month?
glenn beck
No, those were not the big stories of the month.
They lasted, you know, a day, maybe.
Those aren't the big stories.
So we'll get to that in a second.
But first, you went, can I say where you went?
dave rubin
Let's not say where I went.
glenn beck
So you went to Greenland.
I'm surprised you didn't hear.
So you went away for two weeks.
You were here for two weeks.
You shut it all off.
I've tried to get my family to do it, and my wife will say to me, I can't.
I have too much to do.
I get all of my communication through here.
Kids are doing blah, blah, blah.
I say to her, just 10 years ago, we were able to do all this.
unidentified
Yeah.
glenn beck
Can't get people to tune out.
dave rubin
Well, that I think actually is the key to it.
And I said that to a lot of people in this last month, because everywhere I went, people couldn't believe that I was doing it.
So no matter where, if I went to the supermarket, you're not going to believe this.
When I went to the supermarket, I had to write on a piece of paper the things that I knew I had to buy because I didn't have a phone with me, a note section.
So I would write, I would take a pen and a little notebook and I would write out lettuce, you know, chicken, et cetera.
And people would literally come up to me.
I mean, this happened every day, no matter where I went and said, come on, your phone's on you.
I know your phone's on you.
And I would be emptying my pockets.
I'd go, I got nothing.
I got a wallet.
I did have my wallet.
But what I really realized is I need a phone for GPS.
I have no sense of direction.
I could walk out of my own house and get lost in it in a minute.
glenn beck
That's one thing I wanted to ask you.
What's the one thing that you're like, okay, okay.
I have to, I can't wait until this comes back.
dave rubin
So GPS, just in terms of functioning as a person, now I do have GPS built into my car, so I was okay.
glenn beck
So you used that.
dave rubin
So I guess if that's using the internet or whatever that is.
That's using satellite.
Right, so I did use that, but that really was it.
But what your wife said, or what you said to your wife about the 10 years ago, this is how we all behaved, that really was rattling in my brain a lot because We don't do a day without it now, and maybe some people do, right?
Ben Shapiro does Sabbath Off, so he's doing a 24-hour operation, and obviously people have religious reasons to do it.
There are some detox, social media detox camps popping up and things like that, but what I realized was, and this is, by the way, the third August that I've done this, but as my Whatever you want to call it.
As my profile has increased or whatever, it's gotten increasingly harder because I have more responsibilities now and we just made a couple new hires this week that I'm going to talk about later and a few other things.
But the never-ending need to be connected is the crazier part.
It's not the GPS part.
It's like this constant You know, you go to the supermarket and when you're checking out, nine out of ten times you're most likely looking, I can only speak for myself, I'm most likely looking at my phone.
And I'm not paying attention when the cashier says, hi, how are you?
And I'll just mumble something back.
So this is gonna sound crazy, but just literally the amount of eye contact that I've made with people, you know, just in stores, saying hello to people, like just being gentle.
glenn beck
Being present.
dave rubin
I'm a pretty friendly guy.
I think I'm pretty present and all that.
And especially when I'm in this room and I'm doing this, I really can do it because you've moved a lot of, you know, it's funny that thousands of people watch this, but it feels like we're alone, right?
But like getting rid of that, that constant, Distraction.
Never going, oh, I tweeted something an hour ago.
unidentified
Is the mob coming for me?
dave rubin
Or any of those things.
Even though I think generally I have a pretty healthy attitude towards it.
But not thinking about any view counts or I'm watching people liking things constantly while you're sitting on a beach and you're just waiting for the likes to roll in.
So somebody you don't really care about halfway across the world, click the button.
glenn beck
One of the things that has happened is Facebook is talking about getting rid of likes.
dave rubin
Okay, so that's real.
That's real.
glenn beck
They're talking about getting rid of likes.
They haven't decided yet, but they're talking about getting rid of likes.
dave rubin
Well, one of the things I was thinking a lot about, and this will get to something that I'm going to announce in the second half of all this, is Like the YouTube situation, for example, where we both put content on YouTube, we're streaming on YouTube right now.
We're just outsourcing basically all of our creativity to these companies that we really have no idea what's going on.
The more I stepped away from it, the more crystal clear it came.
And I think you and I are pretty much aligned on that we don't want the government coming in and breaking up these things.
Although I do think there's an interesting argument now that the founders could have never envisioned a power greater than government, and perhaps Google is greater than government now.
So I think there's philosophically some interesting things to talk about there.
But what I realize is that You know, YouTube really is, all it is is a search engine that's throwing videos at you.
We have no idea how they're manipulating all of these things.
And I know I was talking about all this stuff for the last year or two before, but when you really step away from it, and you start looking at it.
glenn beck
And you're out of the matrix.
dave rubin
Yeah, when you're out of the matrix, right?
You've taken the red pill, you're walking around going, wow, look at all these zombies.
I really was trying to think, well, how do we get clear information across and how do we make sure that
the world isn't just absolutely divided by every difference that we have. So did
glenn beck
you have a did you have a...
dave rubin
Well, I think we'll get to some of that.
I mean, I think there's a couple business things that I'm about to embark on that I think are gonna heal some of that.
And it really, more than anything else, as I said, I felt very, I just felt very appreciative all month.
The people were nice.
I didn't have one bad experience, truly.
I did not have one.
I had two minor family health-related things that are okay now, thank God.
But I didn't have one negative experience with the human.
I didn't go to Ikea and anyone telling me to go fuck myself or whatever they're telling me on Twitter.
Every experience, every person that came up to me, every person that I talked to about this or that, the friendlier with waiters, just little things like that.
I think we've... I felt calmer.
I feel calmer now, although I can feel the walls kind of coming in.
glenn beck
Oh, it's going to come in and slam.
dave rubin
Because we're back.
unidentified
Yeah.
glenn beck
You remember the scene in Star Wars where they're in the trash compactor?
unidentified
Oh, God.
Soon.
glenn beck
Very soon.
dave rubin
The sludge box is about to choke me and drag me under.
glenn beck
Yeah, right.
You know, you look at this, and I took my son across country.
We drove across country for about a week and a half we were driving.
I had the same thing.
I didn't have a bad experience with anyone.
And it really, I mean, I got here last night to Los Angeles, you know, me in the Los Angeles airport.
You know, somebody says, Glenn Beck.
You're like, that's not me.
dave rubin
Yeah.
And the guy said, Glenn Beck.
glenn beck
And he said, has anybody told you you look exactly like Glenn Beck?
And I said, yeah, I hear that all the time, that and Colonel Sanders.
And he said, no, you are the spitting, you're not Glenn Beck, are you?
And I said, no.
And he said, man, you look just like him.
I was just watching him this morning.
And so I was like, OK, well, maybe it's a friendly.
I said, where are you from?
He said, Orange County.
And then I knew, OK, he's safe.
dave rubin
He's OK.
glenn beck
Although Orange County is starting to flip, too.
I know, I know.
But I haven't even, even in Los Angeles, people have been so great and so gracious on this trip out into Los Angeles.
That's not the way it seems to be.
But we are all plugged in to this machine.
dave rubin
And that's what I'm saying.
glenn beck
And it's not who we are.
dave rubin
Well, and then the algorithms that are manipulating us to think different things, and we just, Again, even though this is stuff that I've thought about for a long time and we've talked about on both of our shows, when you really step away from it, you think, well, this is just a search engine that's delivering you these things, or the way that we get any of this information, or that we trust that the Twitter feed isn't manipulating us this way, or shadow banning us this way, or that this video is getting out to the right person this way.
We have outsourced so much of our ability to think clearly, not because we can't think about things where we don't want
to, that's the other thing that I really realized.
People really, really want to start thinking clearly again.
I mean, that's why I wrote my book, and I think that's why it did pretty well nine months
before it's even on the shelves.
And that's really like, I know I am dedicating the rest of my life to this.
That kept popping up in me.
You know when you're just sort of, you're on the right path, and I'm gonna make mistakes along the way and all of that, but that people would come up, so I'll tell you this, this is gonna sound, it's gonna sound disgustingly self-aggrandizing, but when I came back from this trip that I went on, I was getting through customs here at LAX, and the border agent, I handed him my passport, and he did a double take, And he took his glasses off.
He had sunglasses on, I think.
He took his sunglasses off and he looked me right in the eye and he said, Dave Rubin, you're an American hero.
I do not think of myself as a hero in any way or anything even remotely close to that.
But he said, what you're doing for free speech and blah blah blah.
And I just thought, I shouldn't be.
I don't think I'm a hero, and I shouldn't be a hero.
You know what I mean?
glenn beck
I think this has changed, Dave.
When I first got into radio, I had to go take a test at the FCC.
I had to go then find a job with a corporation, and then I had to hope to be discovered.
It's kind of like with comedy, you hope that somebody's going to walk in and discover, and you have to go through all these gates.
Now you don't have to.
I really think there's no one hero anymore.
There's a collection.
It's happening all over the world.
I was just in Australia meeting people in Australia the same way.
Everyone's doing their part, and soon I think we're going to see how they all kind of snap together, and that wave changes the course.
dave rubin
Well, that was the other cool part of what happened to me this past year.
I went on tour with Jordan Peterson.
I think I did 110 of the 130 shows, something like that.
We did two dozen countries.
And when we were in Australia, or whether we were in Sweden or Canada,
the idea that we're talking to these audiences, and remove me altogether, forget what I was doing,
Jordan, he goes up there, a different hour and a half lecture
about existentialism or religion or the nature of reality or politics or media or whatever else.
But a different lecturer every night, stretching the limits of what he can think about, and what he can do, and trying to be true.
And through doing that, the amount of people that he changed.
You were at the show in Dallas.
I hope I'm not embarrassing you, but you cried after.
You came into the dressing room after, and you had tears in your eyes.
glenn beck
Yeah, because it was, I can't remember exactly what I said, But I realized that the people in the audience
We're so hungry for someone to say, it's okay to think differently.
It's okay.
You're smart enough to figure this out, and it's okay to be different.
And I saw that wash over this audience, and I remembered my time at Yale, where I had a professor say the same thing.
I had such low self-esteem of my intellect, and he asked me out to lunch.
Because we had an argument in class about something, and I said, no, you told me not to read that guy.
You told me to read this book, and I did.
Now answer my question about this guy.
And he said, see me after class.
He said, what are you doing here?
And I told him, I'm just trying to figure out life.
And at one point he reached over and he grabbed my hand and he said, you know you're smart enough to be here, right?
And I didn't.
dave rubin
Yeah.
glenn beck
That's what I felt with Jordan Peterson.
We're being told all the time we're racist, we're xenophobes, we're horrible people, we're white or black and that means something.
That's not who we are, and we're getting constantly told this.
It's time for somebody just to say, you're smart enough, you're decent enough, you're good enough.
Here's some thoughts that you probably, some of you might understand, some of you might get 60% of, but that 60% is your thinking.
dave rubin
That's what I want to be part of.
Yeah, me too.
That's what I want to do.
It's what I've been trying to do, and it's absolutely what I'm going to double down on going forward.
I could look at a lot of the books that I have on this set of great thinkers.
There's Neil Ferguson and Peter Thiel and Steven Pinker and all these great people.
glenn beck
And Bob Saget.
dave rubin
And Bob Saget.
Let's not forget about Bob Saget.
A great man.
He is a great man.
I want to keep helping people like that, and it doesn't have to be people that are just Harvard professors or big TV stars or whatever.
There are so many more people out there that want to get these ideas across, and somehow through over the last five or whatever years, by me just talking about what my own evolution was, I created something that we're sitting in my garage right now, and it's pretty cool.
glenn beck
It's a pretty nice garage.
dave rubin
It's not bad for a garage, right?
But you know, again, just to jump back to that 10-year thing about how much everything's changed, it's just also about the rate of speed that it's changing at.
We have no idea.
Jordan actually talked about this a little bit in some of the shows.
We have no idea This thing that I haven't had on me for the last 33 days.
How fast, being slammed with so much information and real news and fake news and manipulated bots and the rest of it.
How much it is changing us so quickly that I don't think we've even come close to realizing what it's gonna do to us.
And that's the thing, I mean, I'm not that old.
In June, I turned 43.
43 or 44?
How old am I? 43.
And, jeez, I really bumped off the train.
You stopped counting, I know, I know.
I turned 43, and I told the story a couple times, but I remember the first time I saw the internet in pictures.
At first, I remember a vague thing at the beginning of college when it was, this is around 94, and it was just text.
I had an email address.
It was just a bunch of numbers.
I didn't know what I was gonna do with it.
But I remember sophomore year of college, kid down the hallway starts screaming, he's on the internet, he's on the internet.
and a bunch of us go into his room and there's the computer and it has a Yankees logo and a Royals logo.
It says, "Yankees three, Royals one."
And I swear to God, I remember saying to him, "This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen."
'Cause it was like, why wouldn't I watch SportsCenter to figure that out in two hours?
That was roughly 20 years ago, barely.
So it's like, this thing is happening so fast.
But it's not just that it's happening fast.
We don't know how to behave with it.
unidentified
And it's like, that's the other thing about the destruction part of all of this.
glenn beck
I was having lunch with... in regards to something else that I'll talk to you about that's happened here just in the last few days.
I was with Jason Blum.
You know who he is from Blumhouse, okay?
We were having lunch and we don't agree on a lot.
We love each other.
I mean, the first time, I think I had 20 minutes, he said, his secretary said in his office, this is like 10 years ago, we ended up, she came in, she's like, it's 5.30.
He's got to go.
And he's like, no, no, we're good.
Six o'clock.
He's got to go.
No, we're good.
We ended up having dinner at a steakhouse until like two o'clock in the morning.
Love the guy.
Just a different thinker and innovative guy.
Breaks all the rules.
We're sitting and talking about how crazy it is that we can't talk to each other, and we're allowing these fringes.
If you look at the world as like a football field, you got 15% on the Uber left and 15% on the Uber right, and the rest of everybody on the field is like, really?
We have to follow these guys?
I don't agree with either of those guys.
And it's not that you're a mushy middle.
You'll have real passions, but you're not the crazies.
And we're listening to those crazies because they now have a microphone.
Those people always exist.
They were Bob down at the corner of our street that we told our kids, "Hey, I don't know,
Don't talk to Bob.
Okay?
But, you know, we'd pass him and go, hey, Bob.
And we never talked to Bob.
unidentified
Right.
glenn beck
Now Bob.
dave rubin
Now Bob's got millions of subscribers on YouTube.
glenn beck
Right.
And he's found all the other Bobs in our neighborhood.
dave rubin
Yeah.
glenn beck
Let him talk.
We don't need to pay attention to them.
We don't have to pay any attention or give them any regard.
We used to pass them.
They still had those views.
dave rubin
We just passed them.
The problem with that though is that the institutions that we should trust have become so corrupt
that when you hear Bob screaming something crazy, often it's as truthful as what the institutions
are telling you, right?
So like the New York Times, for example, and I see this now 'cause they've gone after me
a couple of times, and the article about the radicalization to the alt-right, and my picture, my big head right there,
and my dad who's a New York liberal, a subscriber of the New York Times for over 45 years
has to open up the Sunday Times while he's getting a bagel in Long Island,
and one of his friends come up to him and say, "David's alt-right?"
I mean, that literally happened.
So when the institutions are crumbling to the point that they're peddling nonsense like that, well, the more they do that, then Bob starts looking kind of sane, and I think that that will be, It will definitely be my challenge, and I think it'll be the challenge for you, and for any of us that care about what we're talking about here, to reset some of this.
glenn beck
No, I think it's up to the American people to reset it, and to say, okay.
dave rubin
Well, we gotta illuminate a path, maybe.
glenn beck
Yeah, I know, but all we have to do is speak the truth, and then ask them to go do their own homework, and reject things that sound too good, or make you feel so good, that's probably not entirely true.
dave rubin
You mean not everyone who disagrees with you politically is automatically a racist?
glenn beck
That's a weird thing, isn't it?
dave rubin
But that seems so easy and right!
glenn beck
I know!
dave rubin
You're telling me that that's possibly not true?
glenn beck
You know Bridget Phetasy?
She was in my studio a couple weeks ago.
I just did her, something else that's developed, just did her podcast.
My podcast on Bridget's podcast, me being interviewed by her, was banned from Facebook this weekend because it violated the community standards of Facebook.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
dave rubin
You going on her podcast.
unidentified
Me.
dave rubin
Which she then posted on her Facebook page.
Right.
glenn beck
Correct.
Have you heard Bridget's podcast?
dave rubin
Yeah.
glenn beck
I mean, I know community standards from the FCC side.
I mean, I listened to her.
It's violating those community standards.
I said nothing.
Nothing controversial in it.
I'm banned.
That's craziness.
dave rubin
That's craziness.
They're coming for us.
glenn beck
That sounds paranoid.
dave rubin
It sounds kind of paranoid.
It sounds kind of paranoid, I know.
Trust me, I didn't like that thought.
You know, one of the things I noticed was when you take some time off and you can just kind of think a little bit and not just be slammed by information all the time.
I did feel a little bit like my brain was just kind of purging nonsense.
There were a couple times during the month that an old song would pop in my head that I haven't thought of in forever.
I'd be like, why did that just pop in my head?
It's because my brain was actually able to get rid of some of the garbage, but related to what you just said about Bridget and podcasts.
It's like, well, why are we giving them so much power?
What?
Well, I've got an answer to some of that right here that I'm going to talk about a little bit later.
glenn beck
All right, so can we get into the news a little bit?
Let's get into the stuff.
Let's get into the news.
dave rubin
So we could be at World War III.
unidentified
You might tell me that right now, in which case... So if we're in World War III, I don't think I'd be here, having a casual chat.
dave rubin
Actually, the garage is quite secure.
glenn beck
It does seem it.
Okay, first, let's start with...
dave rubin
Oh wait, can I just say one other thing?
So the last thing that I remember, just to give people a little context about timing and everything, the last story that I saw before I shut down the whole thing was that Mario Lopez of Saved by the Bell, and I believe Extra is the TV show he's on?
glenn beck
Was banned or something?
dave rubin
He did something truly hateful.
He said to Candace Owens, of all people, he said to Candace Owens on her show that four-year-olds that say they're transgender parents should probably think about that a little bit before necessarily endorsing it or whatever.
And it was his apology that was the last thing I heard.
Not the, he obviously said something that we all know to be true, but his apology was the last thing that I heard.
glenn beck
They didn't accept it and they executed him.
unidentified
No.
glenn beck
It just went away.
It's like people get up every day and like, who shall we destroy today?
That was his day.
They destroyed him on that day and then we moved on and we haven't thought about him since.
Okay, so here are the headlines.
Trump buys Greenland.
What did you say?
True or false?
dave rubin
I think that was the one that I said.
glenn beck
Yeah, you said he wants to buy Greenland.
dave rubin
Yeah.
glenn beck
Yeah, it's true.
dave rubin
In fact, all of it.
glenn beck
I did do that.
You said all of those were true.
dave rubin
They were all true.
He said... Well, the bombing, the hurricane just was like, that's so obvious because that's, yeah.
glenn beck
You know, why can't we lava nuke in there?
Because it doesn't work that way.
unidentified
Okay.
He moved on, but the press loved it.
glenn beck
Just loved it.
dave rubin
Wait, wait, wait.
He wants to buy Greenland.
glenn beck
And you know what?
He's not the only president who's tried it.
Truman, I think, was the last one.
It might have been Eisenhower, but I think it was Truman.
He was the last one.
It's rich with all kinds of minerals, et cetera, et cetera.
But what he really wants, we already have air bases up there.
It goes way into the Russian airspace.
And we were looking at that, apparently, as the base Sounds so crazy.
For the Space Force.
dave rubin
Where do you buy Greenland?
Is it on sale?
glenn beck
Denmark.
Now here's what happened.
So Denmark, it's not for sale, but it's run by Denmark, okay?
I don't know if you've heard this, but Denmark, you know, it's not a big country.
We've got lots of money because we can print it in our basements.
So he just blurted out in a speech, you know what?
I think we should look at buying Denmark.
I mean, buying Greenland.
And people were like, "Is he serious?"
He was serious.
He then said, "I'm on my way over to see the queen or whoever, you know, Princess Elsa."
She's running Denmark.
He said, I'm going over.
I want to meet with her.
Not about Greenland, but some other things too.
And she immediately tweeted, it's not for sale.
We're not interested in this.
And he said, he comes out and he said, that's great.
At least she's honest in her business dealing.
She didn't string us along.
She just said, no, we're moving on.
dave rubin
Do you realize that the news has become an episode of Veep?
Did you watch Veep on HBO with Julia Louis-Dreyfus?
That sounds like an episode of Veep.
glenn beck
The whole thing sounds like an episode of some comedy or horror show.
Right.
The entire world.
dave rubin
So wait, just to understand this a little better.
So when Trump said it, though, it was just one of the sort of Slightly sarcastic, off-the-cuff, nonsensical things that he said.
glenn beck
I think he said it in a meeting.
Like the nukes, the hurricanes thing.
He said it in a meeting.
And, you know, everybody's leaking.
And so he said in the meeting, and somebody said, and this guy wants to buy Greenland.
And he just got on Twitter and was like, yeah, I do.
It's a good deal.
Think of it as a great real estate investment.
Actually, I know a lot of people make fun of it.
I actually kind of liked it.
It kind of made me feel good.
It kind of made me feel like, yeah, okay.
dave rubin
It's better than invading countries, right?
unidentified
Yes.
dave rubin
That seems better.
glenn beck
We're also negotiating with the Taliban.
Looks like we are at the end.
In 15 months, all troops will be out of Afghanistan.
dave rubin
Well, that would be absolutely amazing.
I'm actually thrilled.
glenn beck
It'd be great.
dave rubin
I'm thrilled to hear that.
I mean, I'm sure you know this, but it's the longest war in American history.
glenn beck
Yeah, I know.
It's crazy what's going on.
Donald Trump's been saying it forever.
The media should be celebrating, of course.
dave rubin
How are they painting it?
We're cutting and running.
We're leaving them.
glenn beck
Yeah, we have no negotiation power.
Why is Trump doing this?
He's giving away all of our power, all of this stuff.
I mean, it's nuts.
dave rubin
See, a story like that is where you really see the absurdity of the media, right?
Like getting out of Afghanistan, which should, every lefty in their right mind should be free.
Everyone, period.
We don't know why we're there.
The 9-11 hijackers weren't from there.
I understand why you'd want to get rid of the Taliban because of oppression of their own people and all that kind of stuff.
But, you know, also 9-11 was, you know, 18 plus years ago.
But, That type of story where leaving war, right?
That's what the left likes to get out of wars, right?
They're the peace people, isn't that what they say?
You've got to be all about that.
But Trump has created this situation where the media and otherwise somewhat clear-thinking people can take any position on anything as long as it's counter to him.
glenn beck
I mean, it's just sort of a fascinating psychological... Were you here when he said we're not going to bomb Iran?
dave rubin
I think he's been saying that for a while.
glenn beck
I thought it was in July, but it may have been in August.
unidentified
Iran took over a couple of ships.
glenn beck
They fired shots.
And then he called off a strike at the last second.
That didn't even make the cut.
I thought it was in July, but it may have been in August.
Iran took over a couple of ships.
They fired shots.
dave rubin
And then he called off a strike at the last second.
That was one of the last things I saw, too, right after July.
glenn beck
Where's the press on that one?
You're still calling him a warmonger.
The guy said, no, I don't, I don't want to, I don't think this is reciprocal.
I don't think this is, is, is balanced at all.
Uh, no, don't want to do it.
That's a good thing.
dave rubin
You know, it's funny.
One of the last interviews I did before I left, I had Marianne Williamson on and I'm sure we're going to...
glenn beck
She's still in.
dave rubin
She's still in.
Are they all still in?
glenn beck
No.
I will tell you.
dave rubin
But real quick on that.
When I had Williamson on, I asked her about Trump calling off that strike.
I said, does he deserve any credit?
And she basically said no.
And I thought, And I treated her with the same respect I treat everybody else.
All my interviews, that's her opinion, that's fine.
But I thought, this is the inherent problem.
If another, your president had called off the strike, you'd be saying he deserves a Nobel Prize.
But the guy you hate calls off a strike because he didn't want something like 200 civilians to be killed, that's called a good thing.
Now you take the position, no, he doesn't deserve any credit for it.
And it's that sort of constant dishonesty.
It's that constant dishonesty that's keeping us going around in this, It's like a planet that's like looping around, something that just keeps getting faster and faster.
glenn beck
I know you feel the same way.
I was talking to somebody the other day and I said, how is it that if you say one thing, there's lots of stuff about Donald Trump that I like, Okay.
Lots of stuff I really don't like.
I take it piece by piece.
It's like a Trump smorgasbord.
I'll take a little of that, none of that, and some of this.
He's our president, so I'll judge him on what he's doing.
You say one thing against him and you're for the slaughterhouse on one side.
You say one thing for him and you are the biggest Trump supporter.
Why can't we start looking at things and saying, you know what?
This was a good move.
I don't agree with him on a lot of things.
That's a good move.
dave rubin
You can watch videos when the Trump thing just started, right?
When it just started.
And I think you were adamantly against Trump at the time, right?
At the beginning, right?
glenn beck
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dave rubin
So you can watch videos just when it started, when I still considered myself a big lefty and all that,
where I was saying in my direct messages, I kept saying, you know,
if you keep calling this guy a Nazi, who's probably just kind of a New York corrupt businessman,
who's, you know, trying to, you know, get some power here, whatever it is,
if you keep calling him a Nazi, it's not what you're doing to him
That's gonna be the problem.
It's what you're doing to yourself, because if you keep saying, this guy's Hitler, well, now you've really painted yourself into a corner, because now Hitler does some good things, right?
The economy's kind of chugging along, we might get out of Afghanistan, we're not bombing Iran, you know, tax cuts, we've deregulated some stuff, some things that most of Americans think are pretty good.
Well, you can't suddenly be like, you know, that Hitler guy.
unidentified
Yeah, you know, Hitler did make the Autobahn.
dave rubin
No!
glenn beck
Right, exactly.
dave rubin
Right, no one credits Hitler for the autobahn.
glenn beck
Correct.
It was his, but I'm not gonna give him credit for it.
dave rubin
But that sort of, that absurd, over-the-top way of categorizing people, especially Trump, but hopefully we won't spend too much time on Trump here, but that thing, where they do that with everything, creates, it's not that, It's not what you're doing to that person, it's what you're doing to yourself.
You're putting yourself in a prison by doing that.
You're putting yourself in an ideological prison.
Well, they've upped it.
How do you?
glenn beck
They've upped it.
CNN was totally fine, defended a guest that said Donald Trump Now, this, I believe, was a psychiatrist from maybe John Hopkins.
dave rubin
Well, CNN should have more psychiatrists on.
Yeah.
glenn beck
Said that he's crazy.
He's crazy.
And he has the potential of killing more people than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao combined.
dave rubin
Okay, so CNN puts this person on.
glenn beck
Yeah.
No pushback.
dave rubin
See, this is...
glenn beck
Welcome back.
dave rubin
This is CNN.
This is not news, and that's what people really need to understand.
This is not news.
glenn beck
I'm not perfect, what I do in this room, and I'm sure I've dropped the ball on... What you and I do are opinions.
We are paid to filter through all the crap and say, this you should pay attention to, this you shouldn't.
And encourage our audience to do their own homework, and if I got it wrong, let me know, you know, or dismiss me as a coop because you've done your homework.
But isn't it interesting that- News is not supposed to be that way.
dave rubin
Well, not- Right.
So A, that's not news, right?
Now, CNN can put on whatever they want, right?
but it's guised in that this is some sort of authoritative news source.
When it's not, what it is is it's keeping people hysterical.
So I hear that, like you immediately said to me, it sounds hilarious.
It's hilarious because it should be an idiocracy too.
But it shouldn't be in reality.
So it's like for two years, let me get this straight, for two years, Rachel Maddow could keep pushing
the Russia hoax thing, right?
And it's like, does she get banned?
Or I don't want her to be banned, but like did advertisers pull out?
I don't know, maybe some have.
glenn beck
No, no, she hasn't, no, she hasn't.
dave rubin
But the point is that you can peddle all sorts of nonsense
and you can say Trump has the psychological makeup to murder hundreds of millions of people,
but there's no payback.
There's no risk on one side, but on the other side, there's a hell of a lot.
Now you're gonna tell me.
glenn beck
No, I was just going to tell you I can't find it in here.
It may not have made the cut.
But the New York Times this month, it was revealed through, I think, correspondence and Uh, and memo form.
I'm not sure.
But it was their plan.
And they said phase one was Trump and Russia.
Just run with Trump and Russia.
We're about to enter phase two.
And now phase two, they've got a new plan.
I can't remember what it is, but they have a new plan.
dave rubin
Meaning this is like a directive.
glenn beck
This is a directive to all of the reporters.
This is how we're going to get him.
dave rubin
Yeah.
glenn beck
That's not news.
That's not news.
That's not even a good opinion site.
dave rubin
And you know, I always say this, but it's like, that's why what I said earlier about the institutions.
I don't want the New York Times to crumble.
I would prefer it didn't.
I would prefer it did its job so that we could make a distinction between the pretty decent things You know, because if we have no, let's say we have no level of gatekeeping whatsoever and no authoritative, somewhat trustworthy sources, then we're really screwed.
Because then Bob, who you were talking about, everyone's Bob.
And then it's like, well, how are we going to ever trust anything in this world?
How are we going to ever trust an election result or absolutely anything?
glenn beck
I've talked about this for years on my show.
The Special Forces told me in 2006, I said, what's the thing that keeps you guys up at night?
This is Special Forces Headquarters.
They said the Bubba Effect.
And I said, what the hell's the Bubba Effect?
And they said, when Bubba Decides, you know, the government has lied to us.
The media has lied to us.
This 2006, everybody's lied to us.
And yeah, Bubba sees a guy coming in and he's a Sikh and he's got a turban and there's just been another bad bombing or something.
And he takes it out and shoots the guy with a turban.
Everyone in the town knows Bubba is wrong.
But when the feds come in, everyone in town says he's ours to deal with.
You people have been lying and you people have stirred Bubba up to this.
You know what I mean?
That was their biggest concern coming in 2006.
I think we're there.
I think that Trump is not The disease, Trump is a symptom.
Brexit is not the disease, it's a symptom, and it's happening all around the world.
dave rubin
You know, it's interesting, so Brexit, I gotta tell you something funny.
So two days ago, three days ago, the only thing that I did that was sort of semi-grid was that I went to Candace Owen's wedding.
Now, I know people don't like that I'm friends with Candace, but I am friends with Candace, and she's a great girl.
And I went to her wedding in Virginia, and at her wedding, Nigel Farage and Larry Elder and Dennis Prager
and a whole bunch of political people.
And it's two days before I'm trying to stay off the grid and there was this rumor that Trump was gonna be there.
And I had to go up to every person at that wedding.
Nigel Farage, I swear on my life.
glenn beck
Oh, he'd love to talk to Niall.
dave rubin
He came up to me, we've met a couple times.
He came up to me to start talking about Brexit and I said, "Sorry, I can't talk."
I mean, that's how--
glenn beck
So do you know what's happened in Great Britain at all?
Did he get a tip?
dave rubin
No, he started saying something about Brexit - They had an election.
In the last month they had an election?
glenn beck
They had an election of a new Prime Minister.
dave rubin
Well, so I know Boris Johnson.
glenn beck
Okay, so you know Boris Johnson.
That was July, I think.
Okay, right at the end.
Alright, so now he has, I think it's called prorogue, he has asked the Queen to disband Parliament And Parliament has been disbanded by the Queen for five weeks.
And England, the left, the Labour Party, is all upset.
They're saying this is unprecedented.
It really happens every year.
They take about two weeks where the Prime Minister says, it's a pirogue and we're going to disband so you guys can take care of the local things.
We're not going to talk about national things.
You take care of the things you have to in your own district.
dave rubin
So meaning, go home to your own district, clean up.
glenn beck
Yeah, and just, you can be here, but we're not meeting on anything.
dave rubin
So they do that every year for two weeks?
glenn beck
They do that every year for one to two weeks.
The most I think has ever been done is four weeks, and maybe, maybe that was in World War II.
He's just done it for five weeks.
And the Labor Party doesn't like it because they're saying... Let me guess, let me guess.
dave rubin
He's a fascist.
glenn beck
Yes.
Yes.
It was a coup.
It was a coup.
So they're claiming that it's a coup.
He says, no, we can't get any deal from Europe if we have Congress, I mean Parliament, constantly telling them, They need to understand I'm serious.
I'm going to pull us out of the EU.
It's the only way they're going to offer any kind of deal better than what we have is if they know I've got a little bit of a twitchy eye and I just might do it.
I think he's right.
dave rubin
Yeah.
Well, look, the Brexit thing.
So I'm guessing this is now being framed as, okay, so he's a fascist, the racists are all about it.
glenn beck
Well, it was for about a week.
dave rubin
Because I assume the Brexit people are, the people that supported Brexit are probably supporting this, right?
glenn beck
Yes, so it's about, it was like that for about a week, and then we moved on to destroy something else.
So for a week there, it was bad.
dave rubin
But are they in the midst of this right now?
glenn beck
Yes, they're in week two.
It just happened like, I think, last week.
So it's still new, but it's over.
dave rubin
You know what's going to happen?
Five weeks are going to go by.
Hopefully some of those Members of Parliament will have gone back to their districts and done some of the things that you'd like them to do, like where I live in LA, off my exit over here by the 405.
I would love them to clean up.
There's a lot of homeless trash at the exit.
glenn beck
It is horrible.
dave rubin
Yeah, it's pretty bad here in LA, right?
glenn beck
I've been here, it was a year ago that I was here.
It's already changed.
This is horrible.
dave rubin
It has gotten significantly worse here.
I would love to, and David has actually contacted our local congressman, because there's a trash compactor, basically a dump by our exit over here, but I bet you what's going to happen is in five weeks some of those guys are going to go back to their districts, they're going to clean up some stuff, and Fascism is not going to arise because some politicians went back to their districts to talk to the people they're voting for.
glenn beck
Well, fascism I think arises... Because fascism is mostly local politics.
Yeah, right.
Fascism I think arises when people feel like they can't trust anybody.
and that the government isn't listening.
And so then the government has to use a strong arm to do things, and that's what's happening.
Now the Labor Party is saying, well, that was an old election that voted for Brexit.
That's not what the people want today.
Maybe we should have another election.
That is what, when we had an election and we voted the Tea Party members in
and they, almost all of them betrayed the American people.
When we elected Democrats or Republicans and put them in the House and the Senate and the White
House, and then they still didn't do anything about Obamacare.
Done.
That's why a lot of people say, I like Donald Trump.
He's burning it all down.
dave rubin
You know what's interesting, though?
It is both sides on that, because you could even think to Obama's first two years, when he had the Senate, he had the Congress, and he could have passed Obamacare that way, and he didn't, and he waited until after that.
So they all do it.
But I think the Brexit thing, which I was thinking a lot about the last couple of days, because Farage was there, it's like, if they don't do it, Now, I know I would have been for it if I lived there, from everything I understand about Brexit, because I, like you, I'm a small government guy and I would want the power to be back within my sovereign nation, right?
glenn beck
Yeah, and then my local community.
dave rubin
Yeah, but if they don't do it after the votes and the re-votes and everything else, what does that say to the future of Western democracy?
What does that say when France has a vote that doesn't go the way that the powers that be want it to?
What happens here?
glenn beck
Correct.
It's the same story all around the world.
By the way, Hong Kong.
unidentified
Hong Kong rioters.
dave rubin
Oh God, are they not exporting plastic toys anymore?
unidentified
No.
glenn beck
Not China, Hong Kong.
The people in the millions are in the streets.
They have been protesting peacefully.
They took over the airport for a while.
They had to shut it down.
Chinese military gathering on the border.
They have already sent troops in.
Yesterday they said that Those who are protesting, the end has come.
dave rubin
So they're basically protesting China rule over Taiwan?
glenn beck
There was this really weird story.
This guy went over to Taiwan and he killed his girlfriend.
They went on this trip.
She said, hey, by the way, I'm pregnant and it's not your child.
He freaked out.
He killed her.
Okay.
Then he put her in the suitcase.
Then he drove around Taiwan, found a place.
dumped her body, took her credit card, took some money, got on a plane, went back to Hong Kong.
Well, by the time he landed in Hong Kong, Taiwanese police found it and went, wait a minute, dead body, where's the boyfriend?
Tracked him back to Hong Kong.
Well, Hong Kong does not have any extradition with Taiwan.
So the guy was getting away with it.
So China said, We'll extradite him.
We'll try him in China.
Well, then the Hong Kong people say, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait.
We don't want any extradition stuff because you'll just start scooping people up off the street.
dave rubin
That's pretty fascinating.
No matter how evil what just happened went down, we're going to defend our sovereignty.
glenn beck
And nobody really pays attention to what really started it, but when you see it was a murder, an ugly, grisly murder that started it, and now it is turned into just basic human rights of, we want to be free.
And China, in the protest, they take these green lasers, and they're doing this to confuse all of the security cameras, and they're all wearing masks.
They look like Antifa, but they're not.
And they're wearing masks because all of the cameras are printing who they are.
dave rubin
So how is the media framing this thing right now?
glenn beck
You know, they made another statue of the Statue of Liberty like they did in Tiananmen Square.
They, in one of the most remarkable scenes I have seen in a long time, they stood together and they were waving the American flag.
dave rubin
Wow.
glenn beck
And they sang our Star Spangled Banner.
They were begging us to notice them.
dave rubin
So Trump, I'm sure now, is giving the people of Hong Kong some support, right?
At least verbally?
glenn beck
Really?
Staying out of it.
He said, I hope things end peacefully.
We're always for freedom for all sides.
But when you look at it, unless you want to get involved, and I don't, what do we do?
We're at this place.
I wish he was more vocal about it because that's the way Reagan and Pope John Paul and Margaret Thatcher collapsed the Soviet Union.
Is they spoke that way.
But at the same time, China has retaliated on our tariffs.
Trump took our tariffs up.
Apple and everybody took it up another, I think it's 25% now.
Horrible.
We are now approaching Smoot-Hawley record levels of tariffs.
China said, Oh, really?
We'll do this.
And they put, I don't remember what it was, $80 billion or some ungodly number.
We've kind of backed away from each other here for a minute, but if this isn't solved, this is not good for either of us.
China just printed $50 trillion of currency.
If you stack all the money in the world up, All the cash in the world that is 60 trillion, they just printed 50 trillion and dumped it into, half of it into their economy and half of it into our Wall Street.
dave rubin
So is this thing still burning this hot right now?
unidentified
Yes.
dave rubin
Did this happen in the last couple days?
glenn beck
Yeah, it's been happening the last two weeks maybe, last week and a half, two weeks.
dave rubin
What'll be interesting, I mean, this is, I can only comment that from a sort of, you know, sky level would be, it'll be interesting to see how the media either keeps things going or just drops it all together.
'Cause one of the things that I think all the time is that one of the media's biggest failures,
it's not just the misreporting and lying and misquoting and all that,
it's what they choose not to cover.
So then something happens somewhere in Hong Kong or in China or in Taiwan or anywhere else,
Greenland or Denmark, we know nothing about what their political system is,
we know nothing about their cultural system, the religious norms, any of those things,
but then I'm sure everyone on Twitter is now an expert in Taiwanese politics, right?
Or in Hong Kong, the politics of Hong Kong.
glenn beck
No, it's pretty much being... Hong Kong, paid attention to.
It wasn't a lead story with the people.
I think people are so sick of the wars.
They're like, what are we gonna do?
What are we gonna do?
Are we gonna take on China too?
So I don't think people felt like there was anything they could do.
I think their thoughts and prayers are with the people of Hong Kong.
dave rubin
It's interesting for the Liberty crew, don't you think?
Because for a guy like you that doesn't wanna be an interventionist, but you care about Liberty and you care about individual freedoms and all that, that you said, well, you'd want Trump maybe to be a little bit more like Reagan or Thatcher.
glenn beck
No, just in his speech, just empowering by speech.
dave rubin
But you can't do it just by speech because there has to be something behind it.
There has to be the idea that something could be behind it, right?
So it's an odd, I find that to be one of the interesting, most interesting sort of, or rich places for libertarians or liberty-minded people to debate about things.
Because it's like we care, I think we care the most about other people being free.
I want everyone to be free.
I don't care what color they are, what nationality they are, anything else.
glenn beck
But it's not enough just to say it.
dave rubin
But it's not enough just to say it.
And then on the other hand, do you then want to use force?
glenn beck
No.
So it becomes this... No, it doesn't.
What we've lost is our ability to believe in ourself.
A few years ago, ISIS was taking all these Yazidis and all these Christians as slaves.
Well, just this year, we've saved, I think, another 50,000.
I just was in Australia, reuniting a mother with her two daughters.
They were both, all three of them, taken as slaves.
They all thought they each other were dead.
Put them together.
We're not people that have any experience in this.
It just takes people to say, you know what?
Like Thomas Paine did.
He went to France to help them.
He happened to be wrong on that.
He corrected that immediately.
He knew, oh wait, this is not like the revolution in America.
But it's up to individuals to go, and yes, we can do something to help you.
I don't know what it is, because I haven't thought about this.
That's not my thing.
Mine is this over here.
But we all have to be involved.
And now with the internet, we're all empowered.
That's what scares the government, is that you have the power, and you didn't have to go through anyone.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
One of the things I write about in the book is the bravery deficit, which is actually a phrase that I think Bridget Phetasy said to me that I'll credit her always with it, but that we are in such a situation of a bravery deficit.
That's the only reason anyone knows about what I do, and probably half the reason they know about what you do.
And all of these people that now are catching on.
glenn beck
Courage is contagious.
dave rubin
Jordan, what is it?
It's not just, yes, is he a brilliant psychologist?
Does he have an incredible understanding of the Bible and of history and all of those things?
Sure, nobody's debating any of that, but that's not why they're coming.
They're coming because of the bravery.
glenn beck
So, things are changing.
So, there's been a comedy special released by Dave Chappelle.
Okay, it was released, I think.
dave rubin
Oh God, let me guess.
He hates black people now.
glenn beck
Oh yeah, he hates everybody.
He hates everybody.
His special is...
Quite possibly the most genius.
I mean, George Carlin style jokes.
dave rubin
Yeah?
glenn beck
Deep thinking.
Wait a minute.
You're laughing out loud and then you're like, wait a minute.
I think he just flipped that all around.
I mean, brilliant stuff.
Zero critics ratings on Rotten Tomatoes.
Zero.
And they haven't released what the people are saying.
This is brilliant.
He's now, they're trying to, you know, smear him.
dave rubin
Right, they're going to give him the Kanye treatment.
glenn beck
Yeah, they're going to give him the Kanye treatment.
This guy is brave, smart, and here's what makes him so dangerous, really funny.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
Oh, that's great to hear.
Is it on Netflix?
glenn beck
Yeah, it's on Netflix.
dave rubin
Oh, I can't wait to see it.
I mean, that is what will break their backs.
It will.
If we can do it right.
glenn beck
Comedy is making a comeback.
Comedy is making a comeback.
Joe Rogan, have you seen the Joe Rogan special yet?
That probably came out in August.
dave rubin
No, not if it's in the last...
glenn beck
Oh my gosh, is that funny?
And it's right on the same point.
I mean, at one point, and both of them kind of did stuff like this, but, but Chappelle said, you know who, you know, who's real pain in the ass?
These people who, if I've ever done anything wrong in 15 years, all of a sudden they're emailing, they're complaining, they're a boycott.
He describes and all the people are giving him clapter.
Yeah, take it on.
And he says, you know who I'm talking about?
You, talking about you.
dave rubin
Yeah.
glenn beck
He is just taking a hard stand on, you're all doing it, all of you.
dave rubin
Yeah.
glenn beck
Well, we're all doing it.
dave rubin
We are.
We are guilty of it, too, right?
glenn beck
We are.
dave rubin
Actually, I read Addicted to Outrage, finally, over your last book.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
dave rubin
There's a very nice shout-out to me.
Thank you.
But I finally got to read it, because I was able to actually read books in this last month.
glenn beck
We don't do that anymore.
dave rubin
I read Dennis Prager's book over here.
glenn beck
Oh, that's really good.
dave rubin
And I read Twelve Rules, but I was able to read a few of these.
We're all doing it, and that's what I mean about the speed of all of this.
It's so funny because all of the people that are constantly trying to destroy everybody online, they're the same people who post their whole life online.
And if you play by that rule, do you not think that some societal norm in 2032 is gonna make you look evil?
Do you not think that if you try to destroy everybody from the past and every political person who spoke to somebody else at some point, that they're not gonna come and take down the Obama library because Obama ran against gay marriage the first time, which he did?
What do you think the progressives of 2032 are gonna say about the progressives?
glenn beck
What are they saying about him now?
dave rubin
Yeah, they're done with Obama.
glenn beck
They're done with Obama.
dave rubin
Isn't that wild?
glenn beck
That's craziness.
By the way, he bought a $14 million house.
dave rubin
Palm Springs?
glenn beck
No, no, no.
If you believe the world is going to end in 12 years because of global warming.
dave rubin
Tell me about something in New Zealand.
glenn beck
No.
dave rubin
Oh, because of global warming?
glenn beck
Global warming.
It's going to be warm.
dave rubin
So you'd want to go high?
glenn beck
The rivers are, you know, the sea levels are going to rise.
dave rubin
I don't know, is he on like that mountain in Tibet?
Where'd he go?
glenn beck
Right?
No, he bought beachfront property in Martha's Vineyard.
dave rubin
14 million.
Sarcasm, Beck, I got it.
glenn beck
Okay.
$14 million.
That's a 12-year investment.
unidentified
That's definitely a 12-year investment.
glenn beck
Yeah, that's a lot of money for 12 years.
dave rubin
You probably got one of those 10-year ARMs.
You're good on the front end, but it's going to hit you.
glenn beck
Yeah, it's a balloon in the last two.
dave rubin
Yeah, but all of that nonsense, like that type of thing, like the AOC 12 years over,
and that we have conversations then, or the national dialogue,
and the way that people react to each other on cable news and the rest of it,
as if these are serious thoughts, by serious people who have any,
as if, like AOC is a great example.
I didn't think about her once for the month.
Actually, until you said her name there, truly, she did not, and it was refreshing as hell.
glenn beck
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
dave rubin
Also did not think-- - She's kind of faded.
glenn beck
They've had, there was a scandal with Tlaib and--
Omar. - And Omar.
There's a couple of scandals with Omar.
One of them you're gonna love.
You know she married her brother.
dave rubin
So that is true?
glenn beck
I saw your video on it.
So we have all the documentation on it.
Nobody, let's put it this way, the state of Minnesota said we can't prove that these are untrue.
And she's not cooperating.
It absolutely looks, it falls into everything.
dave rubin
I've seen enough on this.
glenn beck
She's also been paying her boyfriend.
for consulting, and she's paying him, like, literally $14,000 on Monday, $12,000 on Tuesday, $26,000 on Wednesday.
They're writing checks out, and nobody knows why.
dave rubin
This guy's a hell of a consultant.
glenn beck
This guy must be good at something.
unidentified
Yeah.
glenn beck
Must be good at something.
But she was gonna go with Tlaib, Rashid Tlaib.
dave rubin
Yeah.
glenn beck
And they were gonna go to Israel.
Right.
dave rubin
So I remember that discussion was being had right before I went.
Did they go?
unidentified
No.
dave rubin
Okay.
glenn beck
Because Trump called Benjamin Netanyahu and said, you know, they're going for the BDS thing, which you can't go to Israel if you're part of BDS.
So Israel, which already has that rule, said, you're not welcome here.
Okay.
They pitched a fit, just pitched a fit.
Well, they were being sponsored by a group whose own website Talks about Israel, I wish I had it.
If somebody can bring in my iPad, I have to read it to you.
dave rubin
Yeah, I'm guessing evil Zionists has got it in there.
glenn beck
Oh yeah, it's crazy.
It is like, it's like Hitler stuff.
It's crazy what they had on their own website.
dave rubin
Well, this is the least crazy thing you've told me.
glenn beck
Yeah, I know.
dave rubin
This just seems obvious.
glenn beck
Yeah, I know.
dave rubin
That's what they are.
glenn beck
So they said, so they get on TV.
And Rasheed Tlaib is like, my sick grandmother is there.
And now I can't go see my sick grandmother.
So Benjamin Netanyahu said, you know what?
We're going to give you an exception.
You can come in to visit your sick grandmother.
Well, I'm not going to go see my grandmother under these conditions.
dave rubin
Unbelievable.
glenn beck
Isn't that great?
This is the greatest comedy show ever written.
unidentified
Yeah.
glenn beck
It's just all true.
dave rubin
But where are the good liberals?
That's the thing.
glenn beck
They're here!
dave rubin
No, I know they're here because they watch this and they say hi to me and all that.
I know they exist because I was one of them and they're in my family.
glenn beck
Yeah.
dave rubin
But when I say, send it on over, we can get an iPad in here.
Thank you.
It's like, where are the good liberals that go, sorry, Tlaib and sorry, Omar and AOC?
They're coming, so... Because if they can resurrect the Democratic Party in a sane liberalism, you know, as I've said, I'll have a mea culpa and I will gladly be like, wow, I was wrong on that whole thing.
You guys did it.
You guys really did it.
glenn beck
So I had a dinner I was supposed to go to last night with somebody.
And somebody went and my plane was late, so he just went.
unidentified
This guy's this guy's a really big liberal.
glenn beck
I mean, really, really big liberal.
And he said.
What the hell is wrong with the Democratic Party?
What are they doing?
He's like, I'm going to vote for Donald Trump because they've lost their mind.
This guy would never vote for a Republican, let alone Donald Trump.
And he told this friend of mine, there are a lot of people out in LA and Hollywood who aren't saying anything, but they're scared of these people that are saying, we're going to end the free market.
dave rubin
I completely agree and I see that all the time and I see it in L.A.
The L.A.
thing is particularly weird.
Why did Peter Thiel move from San Francisco if he wanted to go to a conservative haven?
Probably could have gone closer to where you're living these days, but he didn't, right?
He came to L.A.
Shapiro's in L.A.
I'm in L.A.
It's not that we're all conservative per se, but something's happening here because L.A.
glenn beck
You are willing to have a conversation with anyone who's just not trying to win all the time.
Look, I want to figure things out.
I have a story on that that you will go crazy.
Let me just read this.
This was actually published by this group that sponsored them.
unidentified
They were like, you know, we're just going to see our relatives and our sick grandma.
glenn beck
The Jew-controlled entertainment media has taken the lead in persuading a whole generation that homosexuality is normal and an acceptable way of life.
That there is nothing at all wrong with the white women dating or marrying black men or white men marrying an Asian woman.
that all races are inherently equal in ability and character
except that the character of the white race is suspect because of a history of oppressing other races
and that any effort by whites at racial self-preservation is reprehensible.
dave rubin
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
They were sponsored by what sounds like a white supremacist group?
unidentified
Yes.
dave rubin
What group is this?
glenn beck
No, it's a group, it's--
dave rubin
Oh, I'm sure they're there.
glenn beck
No, no, no, they published this thread on their-- - I'm sure,
dave rubin
the Georgia Control Media, they're turning people gay, okay, we'll let that go.
white black people can't marry.
glenn beck
This was a subgroup that they saw and went, you know what?
That article is worth publishing on our site.
They published that article from a white supremacy group.
But they are supremacist in their own way.
dave rubin
But this shouldn't surprise anybody because why won't, why do these women still show up with Farrakhan?
You know what I mean?
Because they know if you're on the left, there is no left that is too far left to be associated with.
You can always wiggle your way out of it.
But if the Democratic governor of Virginia, let's say, shows up in blackface, he's gonna get out of it too because he's a Democrat.
So you can always get out.
But if anyone on the right does anything, I mean, this is, For me to say all of this now, for me to be in the position that I am now in, is such an upending of everything that I always thought was right.
glenn beck
I think you still believe the things you used to believe.
You just realized that the people you were with were not honest brokers of that.
dave rubin
That's a better way to describe it.
It's not an upending of everything I used to believe.
Although I've totally admitted, I've shifted on some economics or libertarian or whatever.
So it's not an upending of everything, I believe.
It's an upending of sort of like, it's like finding out that the rules of the game, like the word not was in front of all of them and you didn't know that beforehand or something like that.
glenn beck
By the way, I'd love to hear your—you don't have to comment on this now, but I'd love to hear your thought on Sank being the guy who was really instrumental in getting the squad— I mean, I've seen that video.
dave rubin
Nothing would surprise me.
glenn beck
Okay, number one.
Okay.
Where did you leave the tale of Robert Epstein?
dave rubin
I think he had been arrested.
I think he had just been arrested, yeah.
glenn beck
Now, if you were to write... Oh, God.
If you were to write a Brad Thorne novel, how do you think this would... what do you think might have happened?
dave rubin
I'm going to say something very twisted, but everything's twisted.
glenn beck
Everything's twisted.
dave rubin
He got gang raped in jail or something?
unidentified
No.
He hung himself in jail.
dave rubin
Wait, he's dead?
glenn beck
He hung himself in jail.
Now I say it's...
Wait, he's dead?
He's dead.
Now here's the deal.
He tried to commit suicide, okay?
The reason why I say hung, I do believe he hung himself.
But listen to this.
Listen to this.
So he tries to commit suicide.
They put him on suicide watch.
They move him to this institution where the cameras are on him 24-7.
Every 30 minutes, someone has to go and check on him.
They don't even have sheets.
They have paper sheets.
OK, so you have it is for people who are high profile, high risk.
OK, it is the lockdown of all lockdowns like Hannibal Lecter.
Yeah.
OK, he hangs himself with paper sheets.
Could be done.
dave rubin
Can it be done?
glenn beck
Yeah, I think it could be.
Yeah, I do believe that he hung himself.
But what makes it hard to believe is... But isn't there video?
You would think so.
But the video cameras, they haven't said why.
unidentified
Shut the fuck up.
glenn beck
But the video cameras that were on his cell, not anybody else, but on his cell malfunctioned.
Both of them.
And every 30 minutes they have to go and check on him.
But those two guards both fell asleep.
dave rubin
And why are you telling me you believe this?
glenn beck
Uh, because I want to have hope.
Because I want to have hope.
You know, because it could have been Trump or Clinton that had him killed.
I mean, there's a million people, including the queen, that wanted that guy dead.
Now, here's another reason that you might not believe it.
His partner that was the model agency chief, okay?
dave rubin
Right, like the guy that was like finding the girls or whatever.
glenn beck
Yeah, and was the head of the modeling agency, okay?
He's just disappeared.
They don't know where he is.
Every bit of him has been erased off the internet.
No cell phones, no nothing online that he's ever done, all erased, and he's gone.
No one can find him.
dave rubin
You know, when I was leaving Candace's wedding in Virginia.
glenn beck
Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein, not Robert Epstein.
dave rubin
Sorry.
When I was leaving Candace's wedding in Virginia, Virginia's really lovely.
I was by Monticello.
I'm sure you've been there a million times.
It's incredible, Jefferson's estate.
I saw a little cabin, sort of very far off the thing, and I thought, that would be nice to live there.
I mean, what the, I mean, that's insane.
I mean, look, the guy was evil.
I mean, he was truly, if anything they're saying about the guy was true.
This was a truly evil, twisted.
Evil guy.
It looks... But that doesn't strike me as the story anymore.
No, the story... His evilness is not the story anymore.
glenn beck
No, and now everything's just kind of going away.
I mean, this guy had more on people, and I believe he may have killed himself because he knew once he's released into general pop what could happen to him, what you said, and what his life was going to be like.
I do believe that that is a big motivating factor if somebody wanted to kill themselves.
dave rubin
But then the other guy disappearing.
glenn beck
The other guy disappearing, the two cameras not working, the guards were asleep.
dave rubin
This is hearing it hearing that all that right there it's like that's exactly what I'm talking about about why why I pray that the media could actually yes reconstitute itself because we have to yeah because wouldn't it be Wouldn't it be your greatest joy, basically, short of something with your kids or your wife or whatever, but your greatest joy to be like, do you know that in honest, decent media, good people started to rise up, and now when something insane happens, where you can go down that conspiracy road forever, right?
That sounds far more realistic, some crazy conspiracy theory, than the two guys fell asleep and the camera went out.
But because we don't really have enough trust in any of these things anymore.
glenn beck
The Bubba effect.
Yeah, that's the Bubba effect.
I didn't plan on talking about this, but you can't believe your eyes anymore.
There was a video of a deepfake and I can't remember who it was.
Anybody remember who this was?
dave rubin
That's going to be the next thing, the deepfakes.
glenn beck
Oh my gosh.
Well, last time I was here, I think maybe I talked to you, I know I talked to Ben Shapiro last time I was here about technology and what's coming.
Nobody knew what a deepfake was, you know, three, four years ago.
I'm telling you, we are now at the point, now at the point to where you cannot believe your eyes.
Nobody seems to recall.
dave rubin
Yeah, well, I've seen the videos where they've done this with Obama, and yeah, like something.
glenn beck
You cannot tell now.
You cannot tell.
Last week, there was the first AI voice recognition break-in.
So some CEO had a voice code, and it was broken into by AI that recreated his voice.
They broke in, stole all of the stuff.
dave rubin
And that's again what I'm saying about the speed.
We just accept all of these new things in our life.
And I'm not, you know, it's funny because I'm not an anti-technologist by any stretch.
I love this.
unidentified
The people in Silicon Valley, they don't let their kids have it.
glenn beck
They don't use it.
dave rubin
Have you seen that there's a still image of Zuckerberg from like five years ago where they take, somebody took a picture of him standing at his desk and he has his webcam covered by tape and the audio thing covered by tape.
and it's like, wait, and you don't let your kids on this, and Steve Jobs didn't let his kids on, right?
And doesn't Bill Gates not let his kids on social media?
glenn beck
What do you know that we don't know?
dave rubin
What have you guys been doing?
But we all keep doing it.
And again, I include myself in this.
And that's why I want, I really am really going to try in the next year to use whatever influence I have
to really try to just, I can't reverse it.
And I don't think, nothing can be reversed.
Everything moves forward.
glenn beck
You don't want to stop the growth of technology, but we have to stop and think.
Think.
I'm doing a show tomorrow on radio about this new technology, I think it's BCI, and it is now with Zuckerberg.
Zuckerberg and Musk are working on it.
They say now that through your neurons, they have an algorithm that can actually take your neurons and place them into words.
So now, whatever you're thinking... Oh, lovely.
Right?
And so Musk is saying, we have to have a new Bill of Rights of privacy, that your brain is your brain, your thoughts are your thoughts, and no one has a right to take them.
They can also alter them with this technology.
How frightening is that?
dave rubin
I'm pretty sure there was a book written about thought crime.
I think we're veering into all of this stuff.
glenn beck
Okay, let me give you three bad things that happened.
dave rubin
Oh, that wasn't the bad stuff?
glenn beck
No, that wasn't the bad stuff.
This is the stuff that really kind of matters.
Right after you went on vacation, we had a shooting in Dayton, Ohio.
Killed 10, injured 27.
Let me just tell you, I'm not going to use the name of the guy, but this is how he is described.
Demented, he had a chilling journal of demented, scribbling and satanic drawings.
Spoke of hunting someone at the University of Dayton.
Seek and destroy, it said.
He was very ADHD, paranoid, schizophrenic, strong, bipolar.
He ranted about drugs, violence, and women, referring to them as bitches, even being dissatisfied by his own looks.
His friends said that he was smoking methamphetamines all the time when they were hanging out.
He thought Donald Trump was a bad guy or a dumb guy, but didn't like Hillary Clinton either.
What do you think the narrative was on shooting number one?
dave rubin
Well, obviously gun control.
They said this is going to be gun control.
We never have the conversation about mental health, which is the way we're supposed to have.
unidentified
Correct.
glenn beck
It was gun control in the atmosphere that Donald Trump has done.
dave rubin
It wasn't the meth.
glenn beck
No, it wasn't the meth, and it wasn't the psychiatric problems that apparently, you know... I'm guessing he wasn't a member of the NRA?
No, he was not the member of the NRA.
Then we had another shooting that happened 13 hours later.
This one happened in El Paso, Texas, and Donald Trump was immediately But I want to read his manifesto because, A, we never read manifestos.
I never do.
But this one is important to correct the record.
and how they were invading the country.
So for two days, we had Fox News stop using the word invade on the air, okay?
But I wanna read his manifesto because, A, we never read manifestos, I never do,
but this one is important to correct the record.
You tell me who's responsible.
My ideology has not changed for several years.
My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president.
I'm putting this here because some people will blame the president or certain presidential candidates for the attack.
But this is not the case.
He then goes on, talks about the need for universal basic income.
For universal health care, and he ends like this.
The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life.
However, our lifestyle is destroying the environment and our country.
The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.
Corporations are heading to the destruction of our environment by shamelessly overharvesting our resources.
This has been a problem for decades.
Brilliantly portrayed in the decades-old classic, The Lorax.
Watersheds around the country, especially agricultural areas, being depleted.
Fresh water polluted from farming and oil drilling.
He goes on and on and on.
He ends it with this, I just want to say that I love the people of this country.
But goddamn, most of y'all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle.
So I guess the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources.
If we can just get enough rid of enough people, then our way of life can be sustainable.
Does that sound like a Trump supporter to you?
dave rubin
Well, that's half Thanos from Avengers, right?
That's literally what Thanos wanted to do in the movies.
I just watched.
That was one of the few things I did that involved a screen.
But it's also, that's what happens with socialism, right?
We've got a lot of things wrong, so we're gonna have to clear out the brush.
And what's the brush?
It's a lot of people.
I mean, that sounds like half Andrew Yang with UBI and then half the rest of the Democrats up there.
So I can guess where this is all going.
They blame Trump.
glenn beck
They blame Trump, okay.
This weekend, unfortunately, there was another shooting.
This shooting happened in Midland, Texas, and all of the candidates now are saying that we have to have—this has to stop.
Beto came out with a slogan that, like, Excuse the language, but, like, this is fucked.
This is fucked.
And printed T-shirts saying that.
He's saying not voluntary confiscation, but actual confiscation of guns.
Biden has said it's insane that we still have magazines that hold more than one round.
What are we talking about?
Going back to muskets?
They're all talking about legislation because these last two and now this one.
First two, sick.
If you want to blame it on anybody, you can blame it on environmentalists that are saying all this crap, but don't blame it on them.
They're both sick.
This guy, sick.
This guy was so sick that he went in to try to buy a gun.
And the background check denied him access to a gun.
That's the last line in almost every story I read.
dave rubin
Yeah, that's in paragraph 13.
glenn beck
Yeah, that's at the very end.
dave rubin
That's the lead.
We already have the law.
glenn beck
And if you want to know who sold him the gun, It wasn't somebody who was registered to sell firearms, so who sold him the gun?
dave rubin
But that's the part, because they believe that they can create laws, that man can create laws that can completely control man.
unidentified
Yes.
dave rubin
And it is not real.
It's not what the human spirit or ethos is.
glenn beck
It goes against everything that humans are.
It goes against human nature at its core.
It's why you have to kill people.
dave rubin
Wait, you may want to clean that quote up.
glenn beck
It's why fascists and communists and those who are totalitarians have to kill people.
Because if, thank you for, you know, forget where we are.
dave rubin
I haven't been on the internet in a while, but I have a vague recollection of how it works.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
That's why we have to kill people.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
Glenn Beck, ladies and gentlemen.
glenn beck
No, but you know what I'm, you know what I'm saying.
That's why they think, well, we, if we just get rid of these people, cause they're standing in our way.
unidentified
No.
glenn beck
Human nature stands in your way, as it should.
dave rubin
But that's why modern leftism and the progressives are so dangerous.
Because they're telling you all, they're hinting to us loudly all of the things that they will do once they have power because they believe state power is the answer.
They believe they have the answers.
Their ancestors and everyone that came before them was some sort of backwards idiot or racist or buffoon or wasn't evolved or any of those things.
I mean, again, the beauty of it is that it's a snake that eats its tail.
So, it will implode, but the question is, how much ground does it destroy?
You have ground zero here, but how much of the rest of the goodness of freedom of Western societies does it take out with it?
That's the question that remains to be seen.
glenn beck
One of the things that didn't come up in the news at all but I was doing, you know, because everybody was talking about the tariffs and how bad the economy is and the media is just talking it down.
And so I did some research.
I think it's Denmark.
I think it might be the people who just turned us down on Greenland, those bastards.
But one of those Scandinavian countries just took a trillion dollars of their sovereign funds and put it into U.S.
bonds and U.S.
stocks, U.S.
companies.
a trillion dollars of their sovereign funds because Europe is now at zero or below zero.
In Germany, you're going to lose money on their 50-year bond. It's so bearish that they're saying,
"I can't even promise you that in 50 years I can give you more money."
We're the only one producing, okay?
The stock market here is up 400%.
They're only at 67% of where they were in 2007.
All of these countries are flooding money into our stock market in our bonds.
It's the world saying, whether they want to say it or not, please America, hold it together.
You are the last great hope.
dave rubin
I so, so I obviously, I didn't know about that story specifically, but I so believe the premise of what you're saying there about how the Europeans feel about America, which is, which is the reverse, not all the Europeans, of course, but it's the reverse of what the media, the media says now, oh, everyone's laughing at us.
Everyone thinks we're the laughingstock of the world.
When Jordan and I went to, we went to all the Scandinavian countries.
So we went to Denmark, we went to Sweden, we went to Oslo, we went to Norway, et cetera, et cetera.
And Sweden, the show, he was planning on doing one show there.
It sold out in two minutes, so we did another show in Stockholm.
And it was incredible because whenever you ask Bernie or one of the socialists, you ask them, what country would you like to be more like?
What do they always say?
Well, the Nordic countries, we'd like to be more like Sweden.
Well, we went to Sweden.
There was these people, of all the shows that we did, those two were the ones that stuck out to me the most because of the crowd.
The crowd felt desperate.
They were incredible crowds, the applause, the passion, all those things, but they felt desperate.
Jordan actually I won't try to totally quote him on this, but he gave a really interesting story about how what's happening there in the Nordic countries is they've done egalitarianism right.
Men and women are equal.
Nobody's debating any of this.
But then as time has gone on for decades, as this has been true, where men can do whatever they want, women can do whatever they want, that still because we have biological differences, sorry for being racist, that men... Sexist.
unidentified
Sexist, yeah.
glenn beck
I was just kidding.
dave rubin
That men still become engineers at a higher level and women still become nurses.
So the social justice warriors of the day... That's crazy!
glenn beck
That's common sense!
dave rubin
Crazy that men and women are different, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
But the social justice warriors of the day, who are now, many of them are in Swedish Parliament, and they have the first, you know, feminist government and all that, they won't let truth, they won't let the way their own people, who were equal, have made choices, and men choose to be engineers and women Still not good enough.
It's still not good enough.
So now they want to go back in and re-engineer their country.
So that tells me that when I hear something like you just laid out economically, well of course it makes sense because the people there are being fed nonsense and then they're going, U.S., U.S.
glenn beck
Help.
dave rubin
Yeah, you guys still have a Bill of Rights.
glenn beck
Here's what's crazy.
Were you in Copenhagen?
dave rubin
Yeah.
glenn beck
Beautiful, right?
dave rubin
Yeah, it was great.
glenn beck
Have you ever seen a city like that?
That looks like that?
dave rubin
It happened to be pouring the one day that I was there, so I didn't get a great tour.
glenn beck
So it's just absolutely gorgeous.
I was there for maybe two days, and it's just unbelievable.
I was actually in a restaurant, and I was talking to this longtime resident from Copenhagen, born and raised, and we were talking about it.
I said, this is beautiful.
And she said, well, we're not really unique, you know, blah, blah, blah.
And I said, what?
And she said, well, that's kind of what they're teaching now, that we don't have anything unique, that other cultures are more unique than ours, and we're just kind of bland.
And I said, could you do me a favor?
Would you just walk outside with me for a second?
She said, why?
And I said, just walk outside with me for a second.
I walked out, sit on the sidewalk, and I said, you see all those buildings?
You see that architecture?
Nowhere in the world but here is that architecture.
Don't let anyone tell you you're not unique.
That doesn't mean you're better or worse, doesn't mean we're better or worse.
It just means you have something unique here. Be proud of it.
dave rubin
You created a sovereign nation that has given something good to the world.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
It still basically respects human freedom.
unidentified
Right.
dave rubin
You know.
glenn beck
And they were leaders.
They were leaders of the... The reason why they're having problems now is because they've always had open borders.
If, you know, if you were tired and poor and huddled masses, come to Sweden.
They will take care of you.
Our promise was, come in here and make something of yourself.
Theirs was, we'll take care of you, but you gotta be a Swedish citizen.
Now people are coming in and there's countries falling apart because they don't want to be Swedish.
dave rubin
And the same people who say, oh, we want open borders, please come in.
Also, we'll tell you how horrible and racist and evil we are, thus propagating the idea that we're going to bring in people, tell them how oppressed they are, tell them how much they hate the system.
unidentified
It's crazy.
glenn beck
It's crazy.
dave rubin
Okay, let me quickly go to... And I just want to mention again that I do have these three big announcements that we'll do at the end.
We're finding time.
glenn beck
What time is it?
I have no idea.
dave rubin
We're going to do another half hour, so I'll do that.
So let's talk about what you missed in politics.
I completely forgot about politics.
Wait, so who dropped?
Wait, so you're telling me someone dropped?
glenn beck
Wait, wait, wait.
dave rubin
Can I guess?
glenn beck
Yeah.
dave rubin
How many dropped?
Three.
Three?
glenn beck
Three.
dave rubin
Well, Swalwell was out by the time I went off, so I'm getting, well, three dropped, and you already told me that Williamson is still in.
glenn beck
Now, she didn't make the debate, but she's still in.
dave rubin
Oh, all right, so she's done then.
So that's interesting.
Once you start getting out of the debate, they never let you back in, and then it just feeds on the fundraising, which is what it's all about.
glenn beck
But she's got love.
dave rubin
She's got the power of love.
glenn beck
She's got the power of love.
dave rubin
We shall see.
So three dropped out.
Well, I'm guessing it's gotta be like Inslee.
glenn beck
Inslee's out.
dave rubin
Inslee's out, okay.
Then there's the other guy that's sort of Inslee-like.
Give me one of the... Ah, you know what?
I'll do something crazy that shouldn't be, but I'll pick one.
How about Tulsi?
That would be depressing.
glenn beck
She did not make the debate.
However, she's polling above 2% in like 20 of the early states.
The Democrats just picked two states where she wasn't polling at least 2%.
So she's not getting in, but she's not leaving.
I think I think she is the one.
dave rubin
Anti-war, like.
glenn beck
She is.
She, you know, she left.
Were you here when she left to go back to serve?
dave rubin
No.
glenn beck
In the military.
She left the campaign trail for two weeks to go back to the military and do, you know, her, I don't know what her reserve status is.
But she had to go back.
She did it with a smile on her face, left, no big deal.
She just left.
And I saw her and I thought, the Democrats are so foolish.
That woman could actually, she doesn't hate the country.
Everybody else seems to hate the country.
She doesn't.
Now, I don't agree with her on policies, but she seems like a normal human being.
And I really think if you just had a normal human being, So many people would rush.
dave rubin
You know when I knew they were gonna boot her no matter what, because this is about how corrupt the DNC is, is when she started getting a little traction online.
You know, I've been pretty good, I think, at over the last couple years tracking when somebody starts getting a little something and you can sort of see it, because I've seen this with Jordan and so many of these people.
She started getting a little buzz, and next thing you know, BuzzFeed, conservatives secretly love Tulsi Gabbard, you know, like all these stories that suddenly the frogs and the trolls love her.
And it's like, ah, they got the memo.
She's starting to catch on with some interesting people.
glenn beck
She wouldn't be a vote for a conservative, but she would be somebody that you could go.
Okay.
dave rubin
You believe she loves the country.
glenn beck
You're right about that.
She will put the country first, which was a big thing with Donald Trump.
Nobody thought he hated America.
I think he just loved himself more.
But he didn't hate America.
That was a big deal.
dave rubin
But you know, there's a really ironic position for the Democrats right now, which is that someone like her who was really running as anti-war, that was her main thing.
Well, Trump has not been for war.
He called off the Iran strike.
We seem to be negotiating with North Korea.
Does anyone think we're gonna nation-build under Donald Trump?
glenn beck
Oh, you should have heard his speech, I think it was on Friday, when he talked about, and this is nowhere today, I couldn't find it anywhere, on the end of the Afghan war.
He said, we are not nation-building again.
dave rubin
So, but then when a Democrat comes out really anti-war, Well, how does that even make sense anymore now that they agree with Trump?
glenn beck
So you then, again, you get this like crazy situation that no matter what Trump says... Don't you think that's why people are starting to be uncomfortable because they're like, oh crap, I agree with Glenn Beck, or oh crap, I agree with Dave Rubin.
We're very close.
We don't agree on everything, but we have certain big principles in common that everyone else seemed to have abandoned.
dave rubin
Glenn, I'll give you two people that you know and like.
When Bridget Phetasy, when I did her podcast, was before you did her podcast, and she said to me that she, I mean, you could listen to it, where she says she was shocked that she liked you.
And the other one is my good friend Pete Boghossian, who I love and adore.
I love both of these people.
Yeah, I love both of them.
glenn beck
I do too.
dave rubin
He even was saying, "Well, I can't believe it, "but here I am and this is a good man."
And I think, I'm pretty sure you might have, did you write the foreword for their book or you?
You've done-- - I think I did.
glenn beck
I think I did something. - You did something.
dave rubin
Yeah, you did something.
It's like, that's the weird, a lot, look, all the people that are--
glenn beck
But that's good. - Yes, it's great.
Because that's, I think, where the country is.
They don't want to hate people anymore, and we're not these cartoon characters.
dave rubin
Alright, so Williamson out of the debate, and Tulsi out of the debate, but they're both still in it.
I got Hensley right.
The other two that might have dropped, did Klorbotcher drop?
glenn beck
Hick and Looper.
Oh, Hick and Looper.
dave rubin
Okay, so that was the other guy.
When I couldn't come up with the name, I was saying Hick and Looper.
glenn beck
Gillibrand.
dave rubin
Yeah.
Can I just?
glenn beck
Yes, please.
dave rubin
Kristen Gillibrand.
You want to know how ridiculous her campaign was?
So I don't have my phone for, you know, for 30 something days.
I hope I can find this here.
Kristen Gillibrand.
Where is this?
Um, has been texting me.
I don't know her people.
I got on their list, and they've been texting me, and I repeatedly told them in text, stop messaging me.
They said she's the only one that can stop Trump, blah, blah, blah.
No matter how many times I tell them, Miss, please, Jill and Bran, stop texting, they won't.
I keep getting texts, fundraising texts.
So I guess what you're telling me is, I'm not going to get those fundraisers.
glenn beck
You're not going to get those fundraisers.
unidentified
You don't have that problem to worry about anymore.
How are they?
dave rubin
I can't find it here.
Alright, doesn't matter.
glenn beck
So it looks like it looks like Biden is still clearly ahead.
dave rubin
However, man, he is.
He is hurting.
I think he I don't think something seems cognitively not quite right.
I don't think he really wants to do this.
glenn beck
Have you seen him in the last 30 days?
dave rubin
Oh, is he worse?
glenn beck
Worse?
I think they asked him last night.
dave rubin
He's the last chance for any blue dog, decent Democrat.
glenn beck
They asked him last night, you know, why do you want to be president?
And he couldn't really come up with an answer.
dave rubin
Because he doesn't want to be president.
glenn beck
He doesn't want it.
dave rubin
If he wanted to be president, he would have ran when Obama went out the first time, right?
He didn't want to.
The powers that be, whatever that is, I don't mean that in a conspiratorial way, I mean that the last remaining decent Democrats that were going, holy shit.
glenn beck
The people in the Star Chamber?
dave rubin
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That were going, holy shit, we're about to hand this thing to AOC and Omar and the rest of these true radicals who are going to destroy everything that is good about America.
They looked around and they said, is there one decent Democrat?
And they said, could we resurrect JFK?
Is there anything left?
unidentified
He's alive!
dave rubin
Trust me, we're not that far from that.
If everything else is related to cognitive, yeah.
I know, I know.
But Biden was basically dragged in.
It's obvious he doesn't want to do it.
It's obvious he was the last choice.
His wife- The weird thing when he said that he told Obama not to endorse him- Oh, please.
glenn beck
Please.
dave rubin
Come on.
glenn beck
Come on.
unidentified
Please.
glenn beck
His wife, two weeks ago, was meeting, was doing a fundraiser, and she said, look, I know there's a lot of candidates that you might like much more than my husband, but he's the only guy that can win.
So you gotta get behind him.
That's your pitch?
dave rubin
Hope and shame!
glenn beck
I mean, wow!
dave rubin
Wow.
I mean, that's really, it's sad and it's pathetic and it's, you know, and that's the other thing.
The last night that it was, I think July 31st, just as I was going off the grid, was a Democratic debate.
I think it was the second night of, and I wasn't really paying attention because I had to tie up so many loose ends.
But when I had it on in the background, it was like, I just kept thinking, why would I want any of these people to be more involved in my life?
I don't want Trump to be more involved in my life, by the way, either.
glenn beck
I don't want anyone.
dave rubin
But, like, all of these people, and they keep saying they can solve all of your problems.
glenn beck
Right.
dave rubin
Have they ever solved any of their problems?
Has Bernie Sanders ever created one job?
Have these people, have they ever done anything?
But if they only had 4.2 trillion dollars to do this...
glenn beck
Once Trump was elected, I called all my liberal friends and I said, see how you feel right now?
you are. I said once Trump was elected I called all my liberal
friends and I said see how you feel right now? That's the way the country has
felt on the other half for eight years. Don't kick them while
Don't do it.
It's a huge mistake.
None of them listen to it.
We're repeating exactly the same patterns.
Just in reverse, times 1,000.
dave rubin
Well, one of the things that I really hope I can do in the next year, and I'm becoming one of those people who says I write about this in my book, but I do write about this in my book, is one of the things that I want to see happen now is on the right, so not really like the libertarians, so like you, the libertarians are always decent and tolerant, I find, and all those things, but one of the things that I think would be interesting... Not always.
glenn beck
Sometimes libertarians have the same disease as Republicans and Democrats.
You're not libertarian enough.
dave rubin
Ah, right.
So they have a strange purity test.
Because then it's like, how far do you want to go till we're in Mad Max?
That's what I would say.
But one of the things that I think would really help a lot of what you're concerned about here is, is if the conservatives could say, you know what, we're going to carve out a little more space for some secular conservatives, for some gay conservatives.
We don't have to agree with everything.
Even say a pro-choice conservative, which I know makes no sense in a certain way.
But we're going to carve out a little bit of space, not put it in the party platform, but just a space... Isn't that what Donald Trump did with Peter Thiel?
Yeah.
glenn beck
I mean, I don't know how that guy gets the most evil-to-gays-ever award, but he does.
And you're like, wait, what has he done?
What has he ever said?
dave rubin
Peter Thiel at the RNC convention, a proud gay man standing ovation.
glenn beck
I mean, that was fantastic!
Fantastic!
The world didn't cave in on itself, and yet now everybody in the gay rights industry, and they use that word... Well, because it's an industry.
It's an industry.
They're all... He's the worst.
Do you know who Patrick Byrne is?
dave rubin
Oh, he's the Overstock guy?
glenn beck
Do you know him?
dave rubin
I did meet him once, actually.
He said he was going to do the show.
I met him at a gala.
glenn beck
Yeah, so does he seem like a kind of normal-ish, libertarian kind of guy?
dave rubin
Yeah, he's trying to do more with Bitcoin than they would do with Overstock.
glenn beck
Right, so he has now come out and said he's had to step down because of this.
He's no longer the CEO of Overstock because their stuff was crashing.
But he said in an interview that He was in the center of both the Clinton and the Russian probe.
And he said, I found myself in a Hitchcockian sort of way.
He said, I went to Freedom Fest.
Have you ever spoken to Freedom Fest?
No, they asked me this past year.
So he spoke at Freedom Fest.
And Botryna, what's her name, the Russian Maria Botryna or something?
dave rubin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
glenn beck
You know, she's in jail for being a spy.
dave rubin
Right.
glenn beck
OK, so she approached him and said, so, darling, I'd love to meet with you sometime.
Well, who knew Patrick had a national security clearance?
OK, so he immediately calls the FBI and says, hey, I got to know she wants to meet with me and.
I think, you know, Russians probably have different standards than everyone else and it could be great.
So I'd like to know, can I talk to her and date her?
FBI said, not a problem.
She's already been vetted.
Okay.
You sure?
Yes.
Not a problem.
Already been vetted.
So he starts up a relationship with her.
Okay.
Then she says, oh, you've got to meet my Russian friends.
They love you.
And so he gets a list of the names and he calls the FBI.
She wants me to meet these guys.
Is this okay?
What do you think of this?
I mean, it would be a little obvious, but is she a spy?
No, we've already vetted her.
It's okay.
Third time.
She says, Patrick, darling, you've got to come with me.
I'm going to meet with the Clinton campaign and I'm trying to meet with Rubio's campaign.
And so he calls again.
He says, OK, she is going to be at this hotel meeting with the Clinton campaign and the Rubio campaign.
Any interest in this?
No, she's fine.
She's not a spy.
Okay.
So they continue to date.
He dates her for a while longer, I don't know, six, eight months after.
Then Trump is elected.
Now the FBI calls him and he said that it was, I think he said it was Peter, I don't want to say, I can't remember, one of the guys that you know.
Yeah.
And said, Patrick, we need you to rekindle a relationship with her.
And he's like, what?
So we've already broken up, don't have a relationship with her.
And you know what?
You guys told me that she checked out and she did.
I've met all of her friends.
She's not a spy.
We need you to rekindle that.
He did.
He reported back to the FBI.
Definitely not a spy.
She's got nothing going on.
The FBI then took her, tried her.
They did not convict her of being a spy.
That was tossed out for failing to register.
Okay.
So she went to jail.
She gets out like next month.
Patrick comes out and says, I know who the people were that were directing me.
And they were all the people that were investigating Clinton and all the people that were investigating Trump.
This is a dirty line In the FBI.
unidentified
Wow.
glenn beck
And our new Attorney General, I have confidence, is going to come out with the IG soon and expose this.
But I was there, I saw it with my own eyes.
dave rubin
Did he just do this on his own volition come out and say this?
glenn beck
On his own volition.
He said, I kept quiet about it.
I wanted, you know, American system to work and people just to get it.
And now it's time for me to say something.
And I think He put, I think he was kind of trying to put a little pressure maybe on the FBI, don't screw with us.
dave rubin
Yeah.
glenn beck
He stepped, he only did one interview, then he steps down.
The day he steps down, he does wall-to-wall interviews, which to me was kind of like, hey, I just want everybody to know, I'm the guy who said the FBI is dirty on this.
If I go missing or I hang myself with a paper sheet.
dave rubin
You can't hang yourself with paper sheets!
glenn beck
Correct, correct.
dave rubin
Wow!
glenn beck
We don't know what it is yet.
I suppose I'll have to follow up with the people.
You will have to follow up.
Okay.
Let me see.
There's a couple of other things here that I think... Oh!
Here in Hollywood...
Deborah Messing and the other guy that played Will, she played Grace, they both came out and they said they want someone to dox all of the conservatives in Hollywood because they need a list that everyone can follow of who not to ever work with or employ.
dave rubin
Is there no end to progressive tolerance?
glenn beck
How do they not see that they've become McCarthyites?
dave rubin
Yeah.
You know, one of the last things that I saw before I went off was, do you remember Bette Midler tweeted this image of Trump at a rally and there were a couple black people, black supporters with the MAGA hats on and she tweeted something about their, you know, their sellouts or something.
And she even had a hashtag that sounded racist.
It was like black.
Whatever it was, it was like, and I retweeted it, and you know, her tweet gets a couple thousand retweets, and I retweeted it and said, you know, black people are individuals, and some may have different political views than you'd like them to have as a white liberal, and you know, blah, blah, blah.
And I invited her on the show, but you know, I would love to talk to her, but you know, I was being slightly kitschy or whatever.
But that, that thing where these celebrities, I took acting classes at one time, a long time ago.
They're nothing, they're nothing, they're just, The idea that Deborah Messing knows anything about anything, or Will knows anything, I can't even think of his name, but he knows anything about anything.
But I say that because over the course of the month that I was gone, I kept thinking, maybe I should pay less attention to Bette Midler.
But it's like when you see them say something crazy, you feel it incumbent on you to fight back, because you don't want people to be brainwashed by Bette Midler.
glenn beck
The worst, the highest compliment is imitation.
Somebody is doing your act, that's the highest compliment anyone could give.
The biggest slam is, I heard it from somebody and they said, oh, what you must think of me.
Big enemy.
What you must think of me.
And they responded, I don't think of you.
Walked away.
That's the biggest slam.
I don't think of Bette Midler.
Who cares?
Who cares?
Let me give you just one more thing on YouTube and then you can get to your announcements.
This goes right into it.
YouTube this month has banned James Alsup.
Don't know either.
I mean, he's a right-wing kind of, or I shouldn't say that, alt-right kind of guy.
I don't know good or bad.
I don't know him.
Facebook has banned Epoch Times from running ads.
dave rubin
What is Epic Times?
It was like a Christian thing.
glenn beck
Like a Christian thing, okay.
Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals has heard the opening arguments of the PragerU case against YouTube for censorship.
And YouTube, I know this happened to you a year ago.
You're giving me a good segway.
When you were on vacation, you came back, Ben Shapiro said, and they've banned Alex Jones.
dave rubin
Yeah.
glenn beck
I'm here to tell you, YouTube reinstated Alex Jones.
dave rubin
Hold on, I want to shut the fuck up.
glenn beck
Nope.
dave rubin
They reinstated Alex Jones.
glenn beck
Reinstated Alex Jones.
Now, a day later, they took him back off.
unidentified
But he was back for a day.
glenn beck
Why?
dave rubin
Give me a little more here.
unidentified
No, that's it.
glenn beck
That's all I got.
dave rubin
Some sensible thoughts.
They put him back on.
glenn beck
They put him back on.
Took him back off.
dave rubin
Did they say why they put him back on?
glenn beck
I didn't pay that much attention to it.
dave rubin
Did they say why they took him back off?
glenn beck
Didn't pay that much attention to it.
Why they put him on?
I have no idea.
Why they took him off?
He's crazy?
Maybe.
I mean, and that's your reason for taking him off last time.
What are you doing?
dave rubin
That's a fine segue, Mr. Beck.
Yes, it is.
So I will say one thing quickly about YouTube that I think is the perfect way to get me to all this, which is you may remember that right before I went off, there was The Leaker, who was interviewed by James O'Keefe, and this Google insider said that one of the people they're censoring, specifically said, one of the people they're censoring is Dave Rubin.
So I made a big brouhaha on Twitter because that's all you can do.
I don't have an army of lawyers to attack them.
I don't have muscle behind me.
What can I do?
I can use my voice as a citizen to hopefully fight back.
I always find it funny when people say, ah, you libertarians, you're complaining.
You're not allowed to complain because you don't want the government involved, so you should just shut up.
And it's like, no, no, no.
That's the beauty of libertarianism or classical liberalism.
Use your voice without demanding that someone behave the way you want.
Anyway, I finally, I kept tagging Susan Wojcicki, I think, or Wojcicki, the YouTube CEO.
I tagged her a million times.
Finally, after thousands of retweets and people tweeting at her, she finally followed me.
I had a video chat with her off the record for an hour with one of her people there,
and I'm not gonna betray anything that was said 'cause it was off the record.
Then I said, you know, I happen to be coming to Silicon Valley, and I'd love to come to YouTube, and I went to YouTube.
We had another off-the-record conversation, and again, I will not betray that.
But I will say where I started this whole conversation an hour and a half ago.
All this thing is is a search engine.
This is not a home for thought to flourish anymore.
It may have been that at one time.
glenn beck
No, she said last week, That people must be free to speak on YouTube, no matter their opinion.
dave rubin
But they don't mean that.
glenn beck
No, no, no.
She means that.
dave rubin
She means that, but she... Yeah.
glenn beck
No, she... They had the biggest purge of people in their history.
The same day she said that.
dave rubin
Right.
But what that also isn't saying to you, which is the real issue, is how do we manipulate algorithms?
How do we do all these things?
And again, I won't betray the author of the conversation, but I will tell you that I got no answers to any of the questions that I asked.
I'm just telling you.
You won't.
Anyway, so that is going to give me a segue to three things that I want to tell you right now.
There are three big announcements that I've been teasing for a long time.
One of them just happened in the last couple weeks.
It's sort of related to YouTube, but not directly.
And then we'll get to the YouTube one and the other one.
So first off, you may remember the story of young Kyle Kashuv, who has been on this show, who was the Parkland student from everyone knows from Parkland, Florida, the shooting who what really got him thrust into the madness of the mob was that they found years ago when he was much younger, that he had said some things on a student Google Doc and blah, blah, blah.
This is a kid who graduated number one in his class.
He was accepted to Harvard.
And then, of course, the document leaks.
This is a kid.
He was a kid at the time.
I think 15 years old, writing some trolly, nonsensical stuff.
You might have said some weird things when you were 15.
Did you go back?
unidentified
Yeah.
dave rubin
Yeah.
They had Google Docs back then.
glenn beck
Yeah.
Most people grow out of it.
dave rubin
Yeah, sometimes when you're young, you might say things.
glenn beck
Some people don't grow out of it, but that's a different story.
dave rubin
Anyway, Harvard, as probably everyone watching this, decided to rescind their offer, even though he graduated number one in his class.
And the kid, he's a young man, is just so obviously going to be brilliant and fight for what he believes in.
So Harvard rescinded his offer.
Kyle, I think it started with an email and you know he'd been on the show so we know each other and we chatted a couple times.
Kyle Kashuv is now the digital director here at the Rubin Report.
Yeah, he has a real job.
We offered to pay his health insurance, but he's still young enough that it comes, I don't know, where does that come from?
I guess his parents or whatever else.
glenn beck
I guess.
dave rubin
But he has a real job.
He started today.
Kyle is in the control room right over there.
unidentified
Kyle, how are ya?
dave rubin
Kyle.
He met you earlier.
Yep.
And he has a real job.
So while his friends now, going to Harvard or wherever they may be going, are gonna rack up how many hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of debt, Kyle will have a real job,
and I'm thrilled that we can afford him that opportunity, and I know this is just the beginning for him.
So that's just, that's number one.
Number two, you know all obviously about the YouTube censorship and the Twitter stuff,
and what happened with Patreon, and that Jordan and I and Sam Harrison,
a bunch of other people have Patreon and all that.
So the big debate, which philosophically, which we've hit on here a couple times,
for me has been, do you get the government involved or not?
So without rehashing that whole conversation, and you know my preference is that, I would not want that.
I did what I thought was the right thing, which is I started a tech company about six months ago, and we got, I went to literally one investor, one investor, I got investment, I started it with a really great startup guy that I know, and we are building a seriously awesome What will first be a Rubin Report app.
So we're building it because what I thought was I can't solve everyone's problems first.
I want to solve my problem first.
I want to make sure I can always communicate with my audience.
I want to make sure my audience can communicate with me.
I want to make sure my videos can be posted and if people actually subscribe they can see them and not be manipulated.
I want to figure out ways to have real community building where audience members can communicate with each other without fear of censorship or being destroyed.
I want to figure out how to monetize that properly so that subscribers, because you know, if you have a subscription service, you've eliminated 99% of the trolls, because you can say a lot of things about the trolls, but the trolls are cheap, and the trolls are, nobody's gonna pay me to troll me, but if you subscribe to me.
unidentified
They will.
dave rubin
But, well if you do, guess what?
I'm not creating a platform for everyone where I'm gonna be hurting your free speech.
I just won't take your money, and bye-bye, you're gone.
So I think what we have built here is a huge community-based, subscription-based solution to what I think is the giant platform problem.
I think the platform, we've created an incredible terms of service, actually, which once we, we're going into beta, I'll explain that in just a sec, but once we perfect this for me, for the Rubin Report,
then we're gonna invite everybody to get their own app.
You will have a, Glenn Beck can have it, The Blaze can have it, any, you can be a gamer and have it,
a sports guy and have it, you can unbox videos or whatever the hell else they're doing on YouTube.
And you will be able to create your own terms of service for your own community.
This is, oh, and we're not keeping any of your data, period.
I will never sell your data, I don't want your data, I don't need this thing to scale
so that I'm worth a billion dollars.
So every one of the issues that everyone has been talking about all along,
I thought, I can't solve it for everybody yet, let's go small first.
So we've created a really great tech company.
So the reason I'm mentioning this is that, so everyone that's a subscriber of mine now
at support.daverubin.com, eventually will have access to the app.
Uh...
Um, and as of this week, we're going to go into beta launch where we're just selecting members that are going to help us test it through.
My team's been testing it.
It's really, it's cool.
When you see this thing, you're going to be impressed.
Like this is not some, you know, this is not some two bit thing.
Like we did something really cool here.
So anyone that subscribes now or whenever, support.daverubin.com, will have a chance of getting in the beta launch.
But then ultimately, I think, I really think this is it.
I think we did everything we could do.
Think about all the problems seriously enough for long enough.
And I met with enough people that we're gonna solve things at a small level first and then go from there.
Let the platforms do what they want and manipulate the algorithms and I don't need the government to stop coming in and raiding the YouTube offices.
I even said to Susan in her office, I said, you know, I'm the last guy that's trying to stop the government from getting you, so you might want to be a little more open to my ideas.
But in any event, let them do their thing.
We'll see what happens with Prager and Seventh Circuit, and I'm fine with us all fighting this on different fronts.
I'm completely fine with that.
We have to.
So anyway, so we go into beta this week.
We're going to select people that are current subscribers and any new subscribers, so anyone that subscribes right now.
glenn beck
So have you, the part that I haven't been able to figure out and crack is, You know, people say, well, conservatives should have their own YouTube.
No, I don't want that.
But you need to be able to be in the ether.
dave rubin
So I'm not leaving.
I'm not leaving YouTube.
Now, they may not be happy with me.
I've said a few things here today, and I'll still play by the rules as they lay them out.
Lack of transparency, as they give us.
But I'm not leaving.
I'm gonna remain.
I'm remaining on Twitter.
I'm gonna keep using all of these platforms.
But what I felt was, if I can solve my problem first, really build a rich community where people don't have to be destroyed by the trolls and hated.
It's endless fighting.
I wanna treat my community, in my app, the same way that I've treated these conversations.
And I think we can get thousands of people, we already have several thousand people, but I think we can get thousands of people from all over the world That then also we'll be able to communicate with each other, and guess what?
Guess what?
When I do a show in your local town, instead of where I would never put it, I did it once on Twitter, where I said, I'm going out to this bar in New York City, and actually about 50 people came, and it was great, but that's not the most safe thing to do.
But if they're on my app, and we can, there's all sorts of business opportunities.
Our investor was a fan, who is one of my patrons, who lives halfway across the world, and he dug what I did, and said, if you ever come up with something one day, and then one day I came up with something.
So this is just the beginning of that, and I really believe that small is the new big.
The platforms will implode on themselves.
glenn beck
100%.
dave rubin
So I'm very excited about that.
So we're going into beta, so it's support.daverubin.com, and we're gonna just select people, but then everyone that's a subscriber will eventually get the app.
I think we're gonna probably go to market in about a month.
We've done some pretty good testing already.
And now finally, one other thing, Beck, and this is an interesting one.
Because normal people, when they enter a business relationship, you wouldn't announce it before you've signed the paper.
Is that a fair thing to say?
glenn beck
I would say that was fair.
dave rubin
You've been in the business longer than I have.
But we shook hands right before the... Like right before.
Literally like crazy right before.
Like one second.
glenn beck
Like they said, three seconds, and you said, let's just shake.
dave rubin
Yeah, let's just shake.
So we shook hands on something.
So I've been teasing to people for quite some time that I wanted to figure out other ways to distribute the Rubin Report because I, I don't know how many times I have to say it here, but without beating a dead horse, I don't, I just don't buy the YouTube game anymore.
glenn beck
I just think... We have to be ubiquitous.
dave rubin
Yes, I want my stuff out there.
I don't care how you watch it or how you listen to it, whether you like it in bytes or the full thing or all of those things.
Anyway, I've had offers from pretty much everybody that anyone can think of that have tried to make me offers.
And the one thing that I've always said to everybody is it took me this long to become completely independent as we are in my house.
I have no boss.
the chance that Dave Rubin says something one day and then Dave Rubin fires Dave Rubin pretty slim,
although I suppose anything's possible.
But every offer that we got, basically, I was gonna have to give up some level of control.
There was gonna be something related to what we produce or how we produce it or the amount that we produce it
or some version of that.
And nothing worked for me.
Then about a month, whatever, I don't even remember anymore.
A certain amount of time ago, I started having some conversations with Tyler
who runs The Blaze.
Does he run The Blaze?
Is that the CEO of Blaze?
And obviously--
glenn beck
But I think with this deal, you're my boss, right?
dave rubin
Yeah, I'm going to be your host.
glenn beck
And you're going to tell me what to do.
dave rubin
So here we go.
So that was the thing.
I have that over here.
glenn beck
I didn't mean to shake on that.
dave rubin
So here's the deal.
So look, the Rubin Report is staying exactly where it is.
It's staying on YouTube.
The podcast is staying.
All my subscribers are still getting everything that they're getting.
But we will also be distributed on the Blaze.
We're going to tie some bonds between the incredible infrastructure that you've built, because I've told you when I've gone to the studios in Dallas, you guys have awesome sound stages and there's incredible things that we can do.
Yeah.
So anyway, the deal has not actually been signed.
Our lawyers were literally going back and forth for the last, you know, whatever.
But we did shake on it.
There were some tiny little things we needed to knock out.
But the point is that you're not my boss.
I'm not your boss.
unidentified
Correct.
dave rubin
But the Blaze subscribers, along with my subscribers at DaveRubin.com, will get early access to the full episodes.
And it's just the beginning of several things that I think we're going to start doing together.
And I think there's, relative to the app, we've already started talking to your guys about that.
We can tighten the bonds.
And more than anything else, I think those of us that are in this, we're all individuals and we put primacy on that, but there is a way that we can figure out something together that will protect us and strengthen us.
Everyone's so afraid of associations these days.
Shut up!
And I think this was the right move.
So you're not paying for production or anything like that.
It's a distribution deal.
glenn beck
It's what I wanted The Blaze to be from the beginning, and I don't think talent or anybody else was ready for it yet.
I don't want to tell anyone what to do.
I'm not anyone's boss.
I'm not running anything at The Blaze.
Just, let's just Gather.
And I'll gather your place, you can gather at my place.
We just have to be ubiquitous.
Because, as you said, they are coming.
dave rubin
They're coming.
And why would I rely on something that I know nothing about?
glenn beck
That's why I got out of cable television.
dave rubin
Yeah, yeah.
glenn beck
I wanted to be able to call my own shots, not have a gun to my head, just be who I want to be.
And you're the same way.
Why would we get into a situation where One's controlling the other.
That goes against everything we wanted.
And I think it goes against human nature in the way that it can be accessed now.
dave rubin
And what a beautiful thing that the tools of technology are now allowing us to enter relationships voluntarily
the way we would want to on our own terms and all that.
So again, I have to look into the thing.
I think I may be your boss.
I'm not totally clear on how that worked out.
glenn beck
I think that probably.
dave rubin
But I think it's gonna be the beginning of something great.
We shook on it already, so God only knows what the lawyers are gonna do to us now.
But we'll be distributed there, 48 hour window on The Blaze.
I'm gonna do two specials with you guys also.
You guys also are gonna, we have to figure out some of the details on this,
but my subscribers are gonna get some benefits with The Blaze, and The Blaze will get some benefits
with my subscribers, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
glenn beck
Yeah, and there's something that you know about that we are going to be talking about probably later
at the, towards the end of the year or the beginning of the year.
That The Blaze is gonna be announcing that I think is really dynamic,
and you're a critical piece to that, so.
dave rubin
I have one more thing for you.
glenn beck
Okay.
dave rubin
My people, you know, because I've got a massive... Your people.
Could be a hundred people in there.
I had my people make our dinner reservations tonight.
glenn beck
Yeah.
dave rubin
And we're going to Beverly Hills.
I mean, we're going to the belly of the beast.
glenn beck
And I'm gonna walk in there- Wait, wait, wait, but Beverly Hills is the place- Well, that's- Beverly Hills is the place that Deborah Messinger said- I know.
You know, I gotta kill all those people.
dave rubin
Well, we're going, and they have knives at the place we're going to.
And we're going, I'm gonna walk right in there, we're going back, and we're gonna see what happens.
No, it'll be great.
Here's my prediction.
My prediction is that there are going to be people that come up to us, and they won't be able to fully say it, because they're in Beverly Hills, but there will be a wink, there will be a nod.
glenn beck
When I'm here, it's the only place, this in New York City, where I just see people across the room, and they'll do this.
That's all he'll do!
dave rubin
Debra Messing's watching!
glenn beck
I know!
dave rubin
All right, Beck, we're going to shake in front of everybody.
glenn beck
Yes, sir.
dave rubin
And this is just the beginning, my friend, and I'm going to let you close.
Can you talk to the camera?
You're all right with this.
glenn beck
You've done this with Bill Prompter.
dave rubin
Close out the show, man!
glenn beck
This has been the Dave Rubin Report.
All rights are restricted and no other rebroadcast unless Major League Baseball condones it.
Thank you for having me on.
dave rubin
Thanks for coming in and doing this.
glenn beck
And we'll see you again.
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