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May 24, 2018 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin

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dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		All right, what's going on, people?
		I am caffeinated and ready to roll.
		So we were going to do this at 7 p.m.
		Pacific tonight, but then some scheduling things happened.
		I literally just landed from Philadelphia this morning, Boston two days ago, Toronto the day before that.
		Just landed in L.A.
		We're taping two shows today.
		I'm not going to reveal everything right now.
		One of the guests is a little late, so we thought we'd do this now, maxing out the time here.
		I have so many things that I want to share with you guys.
		There is so much good stuff happening right now.
		This tour with Jordan Peterson's been amazing.
		My return to stand up.
		There's so many signs and signals that the things that we're talking about here are really taking root.
		I think that this intellectual dark web article from Barry Weiss in the New York Times two weeks ago really, really leveled this thing up.
		And it's just reached all across everything.
		And it wouldn't even be just that.
		It's the good part of the article that reached across everything.
		It's that the amount of hysteria and angry people and misrepresentations of all of our views and all that, the amount of articles being written about it and think pieces and all this nonsense, it's like, man, we must be doing something right over here that all these people are just making up this nonsense.
		And to be on tour with Jordan Peterson, where literally Literally, every day, there is another ridiculous hit piece written about him.
		Often I've met the author of the piece, the New York Times one that came out this week about his enforced monogamy idea.
		I was in the green room on the first night of the tour, I believe in Toronto, two weeks ago, with the girl who wrote the piece.
		And it's just like, man!
		Journalism is freaking dying and dead.
		And by the way, with that in mind, we're getting some new allies in this space.
		Elon Musk has been on a freaking tear about mainstream media.
		So I think there's a lot of interesting things happening.
		The Dalai Lama tweeted something about individualism and coming together as people.
		I think there's so much cool stuff happening right now.
		I'm totally enthused.
		I'm meeting literally thousands of you guys.
		You know, at these events, most of the theaters that we're doing are about 3,000 to 5,000 people.
		I think the biggest one we did was the Apollo in London, which was 5,000 people.
		I mean, think about that.
		5,000 people coming to hear a psychologist talk about ideas.
		You know?
		It's just awesome.
		So I usually go up there.
		I do about 10 to 15 minutes of stand-up.
		I get the crowd going.
		We're talking about lobsters and cleaning your room and all this crazy stuff.
		And I just get everybody having a good time.
		And the beauty is you can feel it.
		For you watching this right now, for most people watching this stuff, it's like you're watching this most likely on your phone or on a computer.
		It's a pretty singular experience, right?
		Maybe you're with somebody, but usually you're not watching it in a whole group of people, although I have heard that now some students are watching the show and there's some There's a group in India that I think gets together on
		Sunday nights and watches my show.
		It's amazing.
		But generally speaking, you're watching this as a solo experience, and you're kind of just
		-- we're doing this, right?
		But to be in a room with 5,000 people who agree, disagree, black, white, gay, straight,
		all of that stuff, all of that diversity, but are just coming together to hear about
		And then hear Jordan talk about why racism is not good, why the alt-right is bad, why cultural Marxism and progressivism are also bad.
		And just everybody getting on board, talking about personal responsibility.
		It's just, really, I feel like my life, even from two weeks ago, my life has changed, because you can't be around that kind of force for that long and not feel something.
		It just, it feels real and honest and good, and I think we're We're challenging each other.
		Jordan has made it very clear that nothing is off limits during the Q&A, so usually I take some questions from the crowd.
		There's an app that they send questions in on, but then I mix it up with some of my own stuff.
		He's challenged me a little bit on some things.
		It's been a total learning experience and very cool.
		All right, so here's what we're gonna do here.
		So, on top of the Jordan Peterson tour, which I'm heading back out on, our next stop is in Houston, and then Dallas, and then Austin, we're doing a little Texas thing, starting in a couple days, but I am here for a couple days, we're booking some stand-up stuff for me around some of the tour stuff.
		I've got three shows that I want to tell you guys about, and for anyone that buys a ticket during this, if you're watching this right now and you're one of the first, we're gonna do this for 20 people at each one of these venues.
		We've got DC coming up, we've got Tempe, Arizona, and we've got Seattle, am I right?
	Yes!
	Okay, if you are watching this and you're one of the first 20 people to buy a ticket to the show, and the links are right down below while you're watching this, we're gonna let you into the meet-and-greet.
	I do a meet-and-greet afterwards, shake hands, say hi, take pictures, all that good stuff.
	We'll let you get in that for free.
	There's a premium charge for that, but we'll do it for free.
	So, the links to the show are right down below.
	It's Tempe, Arizona, the Tempe Improv.
	That is on June, Tempe is June 3rd, so that's basically next week.
	We got the DC Improv on June 7th, and the Seattle, we're gonna be at the Parlor Live in Seattle, that's on June 20th.
	So what you do is, if you buy a ticket, screenshot it, send it to contactatreubenreport.com, we're gonna get you in on the meet and greet after.
	Contactatreubenreport.com, just send your your screenshot that you bought some tickets
	and we'll get you in, we'll say hi, we'll do all that good stuff.
	Maybe I'll go out and hang out and have drinks after, I don't know, we'll see what's going on.
	Okay, you know what, I was supposed to say 10 people per, but I said 20, I'm a man of my word.
	All right guys, it's 20 per, 20 per show.
	So there's 60 slots if you happen to be near DC or Seattle or Tempe, Arizona, which is right by Phoenix,
	where I'll be with Jordan in a couple days.
	So anyway, so I'm just, as you can tell, I'm just psyched about what's going on here.
	These shows, we were in London last week, 5,000 people at the Apollo Theater.
	It was just incredible.
	I got out, so usually the way these theaters work, you know, these are huge, awesome, old school, you know, Phantom of the Opera theaters, just beautiful, beautiful buildings, most of them.
	And they usually have like an artist's entrance or something.
	But for the one in London, I didn't know where the artist's entrance was, so my Uber just dropped me off right in front.
	There were 2,000 people outside.
	I got stormed.
	I mean it was crazy like the amount of people that are so excited about this stuff and and everyone talking about their political awakening and the same shit that you're thinking about that that I talk about here about what it's like to to evolve politically and realize that you were wrong about
	some things and want to learn more and everyone has like an amazing life story to tell me and
	People always they want to give us stuff Everyone wants to give Jordan personal written notes or
	some people have done some incredible artwork and stuff like that
	Like it's just been it's been so cool But as I said before it's that it's that everyone's coming
	together and people are looking around and going. Whoa You're a Jordan Peterson
	Fan, you know Oh, you know Dave Rubin?
	It's just like, it's like real.
	It really feels like real, real, real and cool.
	All right, let's see.
	So I'm gonna take a couple questions, by the way.
	So we're gonna do the Super Chat thing if you're watching right now on the YouTube.
	We're doing Super Chats real quick on YouTube.
	I don't know if you saw this.
	I guess they announced this yesterday.
	I tweeted about it today.
	But they're experimenting with changing the feed because we really want more of that sort of thing.
	Where they're going to sort of rejigger your feed to figure out what you might want to watch instead of showing you stuff in chronological order.
	Now, call me a conspiracy theorist, but if they don't really like the stuff that the content creator is putting out there, it seems that they might just hurt you in everyone else's feed.
	Everyone wants just a chronological feed, right?
	You subscribe to things because you know you like them.
	And if you don't want, if they put up a clip that you don't like, if I put up an interview that you don't like, you don't watch it.
	But we don't need YouTube or any more of these algorithms to do more hiding things from us or promoting other things.
	And we know that there's just so many ways that that can be manipulated.
	But they're experimenting that right now.
	And by the way, I'm not asking the government to come in and fix the problem.
	I'm using my voice, my free speech.
	I see this on Twitter all the time.
	People will say, see, Ruben, you don't want any regulation.
	You don't want the government to come in and fix anything.
	Well, now look what happened with YouTube and the NFL and blah, blah, blah.
	No, I don't want the government to come in and fix these things.
	I don't think the government can fix YouTube.
	I don't think the government can fix the NFL or anything else.
	The government can't do that much, especially the federal government, because it certainly can't do it well or efficiently.
	So what you can do and what is your right and duty as an American is to use your voice to express pleasure or displeasure or whatever it else with any company.
	So when I tweet about YouTube, people say, ah, you don't want the government involved, so you can't whine about it.
	No, that's the whole point.
	You should complain so that hopefully someone up there, some of the higher ups go, whoa, you know, there's a bunch of creators out there, and it's not just me by the way, that are complaining and these guys seem to have some influence and they're using our platform.
	Maybe we should think about what our decision making is here.
	That's what you do in a free society.
	I can't, nobody's forcing me to be on YouTube, right?
	And they don't have to let me be on YouTube, but as long as they're letting me be on YouTube, I can use my voice to affect the platform.
	And that's exactly what you guys can do.
	And by the way, one day, I assume and I have a reason to believe that there's plenty of competition coming down the pike.
	Don't want to say too much, you know what I mean?
	But I just think there's opportunity and competition and capitalism.
	That's the answer to all of these problems.
	All right.
	So here we go.
	Reminder though, you guys should click that bell on the subscription thing.
	If you click the bell, and I think it'll give you a couple options, like how much you want to be notified.
	That way you'll hopefully, if they're not manipulating this thing too much, you'll see the videos and all that.
	That being said, our subscriber growth has exploded in the last month.
	Every now and again, suddenly we see these odd anomalies, and then I contact them, and they say, oh, nothing's going on, but people keep telling me they're being unsubscribed.
	Blah, blah, blah, it's a bunch of insider stuff.
	Okay, reminder one more time, and then I'm gonna dive into some questions.
	Any of you guys that are watching this either live or after, depending on how many people jump in, we have 20 slots at each of the three shows in Seattle, in Tempe, and in D.C., and if you screenshot Your tickets that you purchased while you were watching this.
	We will let you into the meet and greet after, absolutely free.
	They charge extra for that, but we'll do it for free and I'll say hi to you and all that good stuff.
	The links to the shows are down below.
	I've only done one hour-long show so far.
	It was the Irvine Improv a couple weeks ago.
	It was awesome.
	I give you my word.
	The manager came up to me after.
	She said that was the first sold-out standing ovation she had seen in 18 years of working there.
	I'm not making this up.
	By the way, I may, it's a little unclear right now, perhaps there will be a guest or two from the intellectual dark web that will join me on these shows, but I do about, you know, an hour, then I do some live Q&A, fiddle around with you guys, all kinds of fun stuff.
	It's great to just get back to my old life of doing that.
	It's completely different than what you guys know of me sort of doing the interview thing.
	I'm also working on the book again, because I've been signing, because people come up to me after the shows, they want me to sign something, and they all have Jordan's book, so I've been signing Jordan's book, which seems unjust.
	So I finally, just because I've been so busy, it's been put on the back burner a little bit, finally really dove back into it the last couple days, so we're working on that too.
	A lot of good stuff happening.
	Okay, super chat Patreon questions.
	Let's do a little something.
	What's an example of a view that you've been challenged on?
	Well, I think the one that everyone knows the most is from last week's guest, Larry Elder, although this happened about two and a half years ago, when we were talking about systemic racism way back when, and that's when I still considered myself sort of more part of the left, or progressive, or whatever you want to call it.
	I was kind of just waking up to a lot of that stuff, and Larry just beat me senseless.
	There are many clips of this.
	I think on YouTube, one of the clips, someone just took our clip straight up, which We're fine with it.
	It has about a million views of Larry just beating me that systemic racism, meaning the laws that are built into the system, doesn't exist.
	It doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist.
	There are always going to be racists.
	There are going to be bigots.
	There are going to be people that don't like black people and people that don't like gay people and everything.
	People don't like white people and everything else.
	But you can't, you can't change everyone in a society.
	And if you want to change everyone in society, you're probably a pretty bad person, actually.
	But what you can do is make sure that all the laws are equal so that everyone has equal opportunity, equality of opportunity.
	You can't get to where we're going to have equal outcome because some people are going to be more talented, some people are going to work harder, some people are going to be luckier.
	But you want equal opportunity for everybody.
	And I would say that the way that you would deal with, so people always say, well, all right, well, what about some historic injustices and all that sort of thing?
	Well, then I would want education to be focused on.
	Let's get it down to the state level and let's make it slimmer and trimmer and use money better and not, you know, pour so much money into federal programs that don't really work and having everybody just learn so that they can pass the tests without actually learning and all that stuff.
	So education, I think, is where you can make a lot of movement if you want to get people to be more actually equal.
	But watch, but Larry doing that, I think, you know, I've always said it's, it was sort of the best moment and worst moment of my career at the same time.
	It was the worst moment because I went into a conversation, um, not ready, not armed.
	So when I said this thing about systemic racism and he turned it back on me, I was kind of like a deer in headlights.
	So it was my worst moment for that, but it was my best moment because we let it be.
	I, you know, I've told this many times.
	I'm sure many of you guys know this, but we were at Aura TV at the time.
	We go into the, um, The control room right after the show, and we had a bigger staff at the time.
	And one of the producers said to me, you know, you guys got to cut that from the show.
	And I said, no, we've got to leave that.
	That is a human moment.
	That is a real moment.
	I don't mind being wrong.
	I don't mind being humbled.
	And I don't mind being shown up, actually, when it's done the right way.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't want to be belittled or attacked or something.
	But he wasn't attacking me.
	He was attacking my ideas, and my ideas were shaky.
	So I think it was a good lesson for me, and I've heard from literally hundreds, if not thousands of you guys, that it was a good lesson for you guys as well.
	Oh, where can you get this hoodie?
	This is the Rubin Report.
	This is the official Rubin Report hoodie.
	You can get the hoodie at rubinreport.com slash shop.
	I'm correct?
	It's shop.store?
	I believe it is rubinreport.com slash shop.
	We got hoodies, we got T-shirts, we got cutoffs.
	Store, it's store!
	Rubinreport.com slash store.
	I've been freaking busy, people.
	I'm bouncing around the world here.
	I've been busy.
	It's rubinreport.com slash store.
	And we got all kinds of stuff over there, and there's some cool stuff.
	We got classical liberal T-shirts, libertarian-ish, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
	And it's a great way of supporting us a little bit and spreading word about what you're doing.
	Okay, quick reminder, the three shows are Tempe Improv, June 3rd, DC Improv, June 7th, and Seattle at Parlor Live on June 20th.
	Any of you watching this, first 20 at any of those things, if you buy a ticket to any of those shows, the link's right down below, we will get you into the meet and greet for free if you email us the ticket stub so we see that you actually bought the ticket at contactatreubenreport.com.
	How's Emma doing?
	Many of you guys know Emma.
	She gets in some of my behind-the-scenes videos every now and again.
	Emma will be 14.
	What's today?
	Is today the 22nd?
	Is today the 22nd, guys?
	She will be 14 on June 22nd.
	She's a rescue from New Orleans, from Hurricane Katrina.
	She's just the greatest dog in the world.
	And still spry at 14.
	What are you, like a 95-year-old dog or something?
	Yeah, she's great.
	Thanks for asking.
	Someone on Facebook, are you high?
	No, I'm not.
	I have been drinking a lot of coffee because it's hard to be on all these flights and, you know, last week when I came back from London, we had to tape a couple shows like that morning and I was way jet-lagged.
	I didn't sleep on a 10-hour flight for some reason, so my caffeine levels are up.
	Are you noticing a higher energy?
	Is that what's going on here?
	No, I am not high.
	And even if I was high, I mean, I've mentioned this before.
	I don't smoke weed that often.
	Maybe once or twice a week.
	And I like Indica, which is, that's the one that takes you down.
	I don't need to be high to be more in my head.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't need any of these doors open more.
	I would close a couple of them if possible.
	So I do like a hit of Indica.
	11 o'clock at night and I watch The Simpsons or Seinfeld and go to sleep.
	So, no, I'm not high, I promise you.
	Okay, let's see.
	From Facebook, any chance of continuing the Founding Fathers slash Historic Figures series?
	Yeah, so first off, I was...
	So thrilled that so many of you like that as much as I did, where we did President's Week, five different presidents with five different scholars in five days, and Learn Liberty helped us produce that.
	I just loved every second of it.
	I mean, you guys know, I just love that.
	Actually, speaking of that, I was in Philadelphia yesterday.
	I went to the Liberty Bell, went to Constitution Center.
	I just love all of that history.
	I love those documents.
	We just got, you know, we'll post it on, On Twitter right after this, and we'll post it on Facebook as well.
	When I was at a Turning Point event last month, there's a guy that prints these giant prints of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
	So he sent them to us, and we just put them up in the green room.
	So now we've got a massive old vintage American flag, and we've got those up there.
	It's all very cool.
	But I just love that.
	I love history.
	You know, I've always loved history, but I think you guys learning about this stuff, I'm learning right with ya.
	So, I love that week.
	I love being in Philadelphia.
	I love when I go to D.C.
	and I, you know, go to all the monuments and all that stuff.
	So, yes, we're trying to figure out something else we can do with Learn Liberty in that vein, but for sure we'll do more of those.
	And also, I just, to me it's like, People are too upset and obsessed.
	More than upset.
	They're too obsessed with the day-to-day machinations of politics.
	A leak happened at the White House, and this happened, and that happened.
	And it's like, this isn't news.
	You know, last night...
	So I saw an old buddy of mine from college, Mike, if you're watching this, I'm giving you a live shout out.
	My friend Mike, by the way, great guy.
	He once beat, we were sophomores in college, he beat Super Mario Brothers, I think in nine minutes and 47 seconds.
	If you max warp to level four, max warp to eight, and you plow right through eight three, which I think is the tough one.
	Yeah, and then you gotta figure out the dungeon on eight four.
	He beat it in nine minutes and 40 some odd seconds.
	Anyway, great guy.
	So I saw him last night and, I went out with him and some other people, and we were sitting at the hotel bar, and they had a huge television screen.
	It was like a huge wall of TVs, basically.
	Four huge TVs on a big wall of many screens.
	And CNN was on one, and MSNBC was on the other, or whatever, like a ticker was on another one, and I think the sports thing was on the other.
	And I was facing them, so they were looking at me, and I had the TV kind of over their shoulders, and I was just, I never watched that crap anymore, and it just seemed so dumb.
	At one point I got up, I was like, I can't sit here anymore because I keep being distracted by this dribble, another headline, the Trump this, the, and it's just nothing.
	So we actually switched seats, then they were bothered by it,
	and then we actually just shifted around altogether.
	Okay, here we go, let's see.
	How long are you planning on doing the Rubin Report?
	That's a good question.
	I mean, you know, it's funny, I say this to Amira and to Alexis and to David
	and to Talia all the time.
	It's like, we're just at the beginning again.
	It's crazy, but everything that we've worked for, everything that we've talked about, the conversations we're having, it all feels more relevant right this very second than it's ever felt.
	So I have no plans of doing anything else.
	I've been meeting with a whole slew of People are reaching out to me with all kinds of interesting offers.
	I can't get into all of them right now or I really can't get into any of them because you don't talk about shit until the paint is dry, but I love doing this.
	I really love doing this and I feel I just feel more validated than ever while doing it and it's great and I hope that I'll keep getting better and all that good stuff.
	Okay, here we go.
	What are we doing here today?
	We're talking about the Peterson Tour, which has just been spectacular.
	Any of you that are watching right now, I hope I've met some of you out there.
	It's just been great, just saying hi to people.
	People from every walk of life and every age and sexuality and color.
	And all of that stuff, and high school people, and people in their senior years, and everything in between.
	It's been so cool.
	But yes, I'm busting out the standup.
	It's coming back, people.
	Hour plus of my standup, plus perhaps some intellectual dark web guests.
	June 3rd, Tempe Improv, link's right down below.
	June 7th at the DC Improv, link right down below.
	Seattle Parlor Live, June 20th, link right down below.
	The first 20 of you at each one of those venues who buys a ticket while you're watching this, Even if it's late.
	Even if you're not watching live.
	If 20 of you have not done it yet, you can still get in on this.
	We'll upgrade you to the meet and greet after, where I come and hang out with you guys and take pictures and all that good stuff.
	So you just gotta buy the ticket at the link down below, screenshot it, contact at RubinReport.com, just send it to us, and we'll take good care of ya.
	Okay, so we've got VIP spots available for you guys.
	Alright, let's see what's going on here.
	Hey Dave, as a classical liberal, what do you think about the NFL requiring players to stand for the national anthem?
	Is this a free speech issue or an employer rights issue?
	OK.
	So I got into this today with David Frum on Twitter.
	And by the way, I invited him to come back on the show.
	He's in L.A.
	next week, but I'm on tour, so I think we're going to do it in October.
	That's when he said he'll be back on.
	But he compared this to the James Damore situation at Google.
	And it's nothing like the James Damore situation.
	James Damore was invited to go to these diversity training things and then told afterwards to share his thoughts, which he then did with Google.
	Then they punished him for sharing his thoughts.
	They fired him for his political beliefs and for doing exactly what they told him to do.
	And by the way, it was just two or three months after he had just gotten a promotion.
	This is not that case.
	No one has been fired.
	Kaepernick was not hired.
	He was a free agent.
	He wasn't hired by any team, but he wasn't fired.
	And you have to understand that these things are all businesses.
	So let's let me just try to do this as cleanly and clearly as possible.
	And as Jordan says every night, you have to be very precise with your language.
	I am a free speech absolutist.
	You can say whatever you want within the constructs of the few things that, under the law, you are not allowed to do.
	So you cannot make a direct threat.
	I'm going to kill you.
	I'm going to kill all of those people.
unidentified		Right?
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to blow up that.
		You can't do that.
		You can't yell fire in a crowded theater.
		There's public safety issues.
		And then we have extremely, extremely specific, very hard to prove libel laws.
		Okay?
		Which I believe in, actually, because you can't, especially nowadays, with the amount of just evil, noxious, toxic journalism out there and social media and all that.
		You have to have some protection around that.
		By the way, these laws are virtually never used, and I believe they should exist.
		But with those exceptions, you can say whatever you want.
		You're allowed to be mean, you're allowed to say bad things, you're allowed to upset people, et cetera, et cetera.
		You're allowed to say things about protected groups.
		You can't say we're gonna kill them, but you're allowed to say mean things.
		I would prefer you didn't.
		I would prefer everyone be real nice to each other, right?
		And that's what conversation's all about.
		That's my feeling on free speech, okay?
		So, that's one thing.
		Now, if you watch the video that I did, and I tweeted it out today so you can find it, on the NFL protests from seven months ago, I stand by everything that I said.
		You know, everyone was treating this thing like there was this massive assault on free speech and that the government was stopping people from speaking and all this stuff.
		So let's try to do it cleanly here.
		The players can do what they want, right?
		The players can either kneel or not.
		I'm getting up to the point of yesterday, right?
		Or I guess it happened today with the new regulations that they're going to have.
		So we're just going back seven months.
		At that point, the players could do whatever they want.
		You could kneel or not kneel.
		You can express yourself however you want.
		The team, then, can do whatever it wants.
		It can either fine you or not fine you, or put out a statement saying they agree with you or not.
		The owners can do whatever they want with their business.
		The league can do whatever it wants.
		The president, although I would have preferred that Trump not gotten involved in this in the first place, he can say whatever he wants.
		Now he called the players, I think he called the players sons of bitches or something.
		That's freaking ridiculous and awful and he shouldn't do that.
		But he is entitled to his free speech as well, even when at that level it's a pretty gross thing that he said.
		But everyone's free speech in this instance was respected.
		Everyone was allowed to do whatever they want.
		Now that doesn't mean you aren't going to suffer repercussions.
		So let's say at the end of the day, An owner looks and they go, you know, we've got these players kneeling.
		Now we see our audience is turning against us because our audience doesn't want that.
		We see our TV ratings dropping.
		We see attendance dropping.
		We see merchandise not selling as well.
		Well, I'm in a business.
		I'm a business owner.
		I own a team.
		They own a team for a reason.
		You're allowed to then not hire people.
		You're allowed to fire people.
		I mean, this again, this has nothing to do with the government.
		So this was actually, even though it all felt weird, it was government working.
		Now, if Trump or the government or any state official or whatever it is, would have used coercion of the government to say, you have to stand, of course, people, of course, I would be absolutely against that.
		But they did not do that.
		Now, what happened yesterday, or it was earlier today, I've been traveling so much I'm a little unclear, is that it sounds like what they're going to do is, if you don't want to come out, if you're a player and you don't want to come out for the National Anthem, they're just going to ask you to stay in the locker room.
		That's the league making its decision, and the players now can choose whether to abide by that or not.
		And if they don't abide by it, and they go out there and they kneel, and the league has said you cannot do that, Well then they're going to suffer the repercussions.
		They are 100%, as far as I can tell from everything I read today, you can spend the other 6 days of the week and 21 some odd hours, minus the 3 hours that you're on the field playing football, you can be protesting, you can be tweeting, you can do whatever you want.
		But the League has a right to say what its standards are, just as YouTube, by the way, has a right to do whatever it wants.
		Again, I mean, I think I started this off by saying that.
		These companies can do whatever they want.
		The idea that the government can come in and either fix them or tell them what to do is just something that I just simply don't believe in and I've never heard a compelling argument for it.
		And by the way, I know that I disagree with this on some people that I absolutely respect.
	So, your question was, how would a classical liberal feel about this?
	I mean, a classical liberal, basically, you believe in laissez-faire economics.
	You want a very light, if at all, touch of the government on these decisions.
	So, as long as no one's rights were infringed on, no one was stopped from speaking.
	In other words, if you're if look, I have a business here, right?
	Let's say tomorrow, Amira came in here and said, you know, for the first half hour that I'm working every day, I'm going to protest something and I'm going to stand here with a picket fence and I'm going to, you know, picket sign and blah, blah, blah.
	Well, I might be like, you know what, you have a right to do that.
	You have a right to express your free speech, of course, but you can't do it on my dime.
	Does anyone think that me, as a small businessman, would have to hire someone that wasn't working the entire time that I was there, doing the expectations which I've set forth?
	I don't think so.
	So again, this is where freedom is messy.
	It doesn't all feel good.
	I don't want people to have to be left in the locker room and all the underlying reasons that they're doing this protest in the first place.
	But everyone in this case is allowed to make their choice.
	The owners, the league, the players, the fans.
	Everyone is expressing themselves accordingly.
	And if you're not happy with what the league did, then don't watch.
	And if you are happy, then do watch and buy stuff.
	You gotta let freedom ring.
	You gotta let it ring.
	That's what I think about that.
	Okay.
	Are you staying on the diet while on the tour?
	I basically am.
	It's been obviously a little bit tough and I did have a cheesesteak while I was in Philly.
	I wasn't gonna go to Philly and not have a cheesesteak.
	But yeah, I've been doing it.
	And so since we started this thing, which was a little bit, I think it was right into the first week of January of this year, I'm down about 20 pounds.
	I'm gonna try to go for about five more.
	I know I don't really need it, but it's like once you start feeling real good and you look in the mirror and you see those differences, and I just feel good in general.
	I think really getting sugar out, so I'm doing this sort of slow carb paleo thing, very, very low carb, but mostly just meat and fish and vegetables, really got sugar out more than anything else.
	And I feel good, I feel clean, I feel clearer, I feel lighter for sure.
	So I'm gonna just keep trying to do it.
	And then I guess at some point, when I get to some magic number, then I just gotta figure out how to kind of balance it out.
	All right, we got about 20 minutes here.
	What are we doing here, people?
	I got three stand-up events coming, and I want you to come backstage for no extra charge, okay?
	That was my best, became a 1980s salesman right there.
	Tempe Improv, June 3rd.
	DC Improv, June 7th.
	Seattle at the Parlor Live.
	If you buy a ticket right now and you're one of the first 20 people at any of those events, at any of those, Specific locations.
	Screenshot it right now.
	Screenshot that you bought the tickets.
	Send it to contact at RubinReport.com and we're going to let you in the meet and greet for free.
	I'll say, Heidi, I'll give you a high five.
	We'll take a selfie.
	All that good stuff.
	And we're doing that for 20 people per event.
	Okay, here we go.
	Dig in the art in the background.
	So we get a lot of compliments on the art.
	So this blue one here, right there, that's Kaylin Rose Janet, who's done a bunch of artwork in my house, and she did the painting that's on the other side of the guest.
	A lot of people say that they see Kurt Cobain in there.
	You see?
	I can kind of see it.
	Like, there's an eye, and there's an eye.
	There's the nose and a mouth over there.
	Yeah.
	So that's that.
	I always forget who did who did this.
	Whoops.
	I always forget who did the that one right there.
	A mirror nose.
	We'll post it in the comments.
	Yeah, I like having good art.
	We may do some refreshing around here and change a few things as time goes by, but yeah, there you go.
	Let's see.
	Can you tell us who the bad actors are specifically?
	I'm not sure what you're referring to.
	I do talk about bad actors often, but I don't know what you're specifically talking about.
	In general, when I talk about bad actors, I'm talking about people that are just Misquoting people intentionally.
	People who are doing clickbait titles, whether it's on YouTube or on, you know, just print, whatever it is.
	People who are just lying about what other people are saying.
	People, more than anything else, people who are talking about people all the time.
	I mean, think about what I've done here for the last hour.
	I've talked about ideas.
	I don't care about talking about specific people, even Trump that much.
	I would much rather talk about the underlying ideas.
	The fact that there are so many journalists who wake up in the morning and they're like, today I'm going to get Rubin or I'm going to get Sam Harris or I'm going to get Jordan Peterson or anybody.
	And it's like, if you think that we're the biggest problem out there, You're a little misguided in what you're doing.
	So I don't like talking about people.
	And if your goal every day is to talk about people and attack people and smear and lie and slander and all that stuff, I just don't think you're a good actor in this space.
	And when I say this space, I mean just in the space of people talking about ideas.
	I'm not perfect.
	I'm not always right.
	But if you are acting in good faith, then I'm happy to talk to you.
	Okay, let's see what else is going on here.
	Is Mike Pence a cyborg?
	He's a little robotic.
	There's no doubt that the guy's a little stiff.
	So I think it's, I'd say that he could be 10% robot.
	Is Hillary Clinton a lizard?
	Possibly.
	Both cannot be true.
	Well, anything's possible.
	Good question, good question.
	Okay, let's see.
	All right, what else do I want to tell you?
	I'm going to let a couple other questions load in here on Patreon and Super Chat.
	You know, bouncing around this thing and going to all these cities, what also has been nice about it, just in the last couple weeks, beyond doing London, which was great, oh, I spoke at Oxford Union, which hopefully the video will be up on their channel in a day or two, it was just wonderful.
	So Oxford Union, it's in Oxford, which is about an hour away from London.
	And I didn't realize this, but it's a small collection of colleges.
	Some of the colleges are very small.
	I think someone told me one of the colleges is like 14 people and then some have hundreds, et cetera.
	And it's in this really great quaint old town that you kind of feel like you're in Harry Potter.
	And it really is one of the last bastions of free speech at the academic level.
	And it was just wonderful.
	So what we did was, they were probably about, it was standing room only, I don't know, maybe about 200 students there.
	The president of Oxford Union, a lovely young lady, she asked me questions.
	I didn't know anything in advance.
	They let you do it however you want.
	So she said, you know, I could give an opening statement.
	And then we could do a Q&A and then we'll take questions from the crowd.
	She could ask me questions, interview me, however you want to do it.
	I said, you know what?
	I'm so used to being on this side of the interview.
	Let me just sit down.
	I don't need to make an opening statement.
	Just start asking me whatever you think.
	She asked some pretty challenging questions right from beat one and the audience asked spectacular questions and challenged me on some stuff and it was a true joy every second of it.
	It was a joy.
	And then I had a drink with some of the students after.
	And it was like all of these kids again, and I hate having to say this, but I think it's important because of all the smear pieces.
	The diversity of color and ethnicity and background and religion and sexuality and all that stuff, it's all there.
	And stop thinking that people's ideas are based on those things.
	What a sad way to live.
	You know, what a sad way to live.
	It was just great.
	Superchat, mate, I love what you're about.
	Thank you, mate.
	I love your love, so thank you very much for that.
	Yeah, so London, but then we get back to the States, and just in the last couple days, as I said, we did Boston, we did Philly, we did Toronto, we did Denver, we did, we're due in Texas, bunch of stops in Texas.
	We did, oh man, we've been all over the place.
	Like, it's actually, it's hard for me to even, like, I can't categorize exactly where we've been.
	But what's been nice is that each, we did San Francisco.
	What's nice is that each city is its own thing.
	We did Seattle.
	It's like you can really get a flavor for each thing.
	So the shows that I've enjoyed the most so far, San Francisco is spectacular because I brought up Eric Weinstein as a surprise.
	So I did about 10 minutes, get the crowds going crazy.
	And then I was like, you know what?
	Here's another member of the IDW.
	I bring out Eric Weinstein.
	He plays the harmonica.
	He goes up there, plays the harmonica for about a minute, 3,000 people applauding.
	And it was like, man, I go backstage with him after, and it's like, this guy is so accomplished
	in mathematics and economics, and he works with Peter Thiel.
	And it was like the true joy on this guy's face that he got to play the harmonica for
	3,000 people and that they loved it.
	It was just so awesome.
	What I found is that the cities that lean a little more left, so Seattle, San Francisco,
	For example, that's where the crowds have been the hottest, because I think because
	they're the outliers.
	They come and they're like, holy cow, we're here with other people who think like us.
	So it's very exciting.
	But really, all of the shows have been good.
	They're all sort of different.
	Philly last night, it was a little more of a working class crowd, you could tell.
	But it's great.
	And people are coming.
	They get dressed up.
	People are wearing suits.
	And girls are wearing dresses.
	Really, it's just great.
	It's just been a true joy.
unidentified		All right.
dave rubin ▲ ● ▼		A couple other things here.
		Let's see.
		Do you still open yourself to having your mind changed as the intellectual dark web gains momentum?
		How do you make sure you're not becoming dogmatic in your views?
		I mean, all I can do is constantly be open to ideas and see where the best ones fall.
		I don't think there's any, you know, that's really the beauty of this thing.
		I saw some of the hit pieces on this where they tried to frame us as a mostly white male group.
		We all just happen to come together.
		I don't even know what this thing is exactly.
		I don't know what the gatekeeping is.
		That's what a lot of the discussion is about.
		We don't have a card.
		We don't have a clubhouse.
		But yes, there are a bunch of people.
		But by the way, I would say that, you know, it obviously also includes, you know, it's not just that it's white men, which even if it was just white men, straight white men, And I'm not even one of them.
		Even if it was, that has nothing to do with the set of ideas.
		So it's really interesting that the same people who tell everyone else that they're bigots and racists and homophobes and all that, they're the ones actually practicing bigotry in this case.
		But the group is truly diverse.
		We've got ideas all over the place and we've got men and women and gays and straights and the rest of it.
		So the best I can do is continually be open to ideas.
		So by the way, you know, it's like two weeks ago I had a libertarian economics professor, Don Boudreau, from George Mason University on.
		Now, he happens to fall into a lot of the ideas that I've come to really love.
		I love, you know, we did a little bit of what's the difference between a classical liberal and a libertarian.
		He's into the ANCAP stuff, which intellectually I just think it's a fun exercise of if you want to follow through your logic of where small government leads.
		I think it's a fun conversation to have.
		So I really enjoyed that.
		Then what did we do this past Monday?
		We put up our interview with... Who do we have on on Monday?
		Man, I've been traveling a lot.
		Jenny Wilson, thank you.
		Jenny Wilson, who's a Democrat running in a deep red state of Utah.
		And now obviously when it came to certain issues where we talked about diversity, we came to certain issues about economics, we didn't agree.
		And we agreed, I think at one point we actually said we agreed to disagree and then we moved on.
		And it's like I love having that conversation too.
		This is what it's about.
		And I think 80% of us, I really believe this, 80% of us are in that same space.
		And it's the fringes on both sides that are loud and annoying.
		My concern is much more obviously with the extremes of the left because they have so much to do with media and television and politics.
		And no one is ever called far left in the media, even though most of the democratic establishment at this point is pretty far left.
		And everyone is smeared as far-right or alt-right.
		But I will keep doing it, and call me out.
		If you think I'm becoming dogmatic in my approach, please call me out.
		I guess that would be putting the job back on you guys.
		Let's see.
		Superchat, Dave, your thoughts on the recent monk debate between Jordan B. Peterson and Michael Eric Dyson?
		Keep up the good work and call Shapiro when you need a lifeline fighting the regressives.
		I've got Shapiro on speed dial, don't worry.
		So I didn't see the debate yet.
		I've heard a tremendous amount about it.
		Obviously, I've been traveling and I was with Jordan, so I just haven't had a chance Jordan did talk about it a little bit, but I don't wanna repeat any of that here because I just don't wanna even slightly misquote him or anything.
		But it sounds like, look, it was him and Stephen Fry versus Michael Eric Dyson and I think her name's Michelle Goldberg on free speech and political correctness.
		I suspect I'm going to agree more with Stephen Fry and Jordan, but I will check it out.
		All right, let's see.
		I'm interested in getting in on the conversation in the public light.
		Any advice on where to start?
		Yeah, get on YouTube, man.
		Get on YouTube.
		Just start saying what you think.
		Start saying what you think.
		That's what all of you guys are doing.
		The more of these videos you share, forget about what I'm doing for a second, the more that you just, in your own life, say what you think, that's all that I'm doing.
		Get out there and do it.
		We need you out there.
		The more they will realize That they can't destroy us all with the mob.
	That we're going to stand up for ourselves.
	We're not going to live in fear and cowardice.
	And that we're not bad people.
	And that we're not bigots and racists and the rest of the things that they say about us.
	And that we want all people, black people and Muslim people and trans people and everything else, to live equally.
	As I repeatedly said at the University of New Hampshire event, although the protesters weren't that happy.
	You know, that was a good example of what's going on here, actually.
	You know, the protesters that came there, they don't listen.
	Like, I could see who they were from the beginning, right?
	You can figure it out, because they had noisemakers, and they're kind of looking at me dismissively, and some with just outright hatred, which is really disturbing when you see, like, a couple young people, or I suppose of any age, just staring at you with true hatred.
	Like, and I could see it in them.
	Really, I could.
	You're not going to affect those people that much.
	You can't.
	They have to break out of that themselves at some point.
	But all of the other people that were there to listen respectfully and hear about ideas and engage in the conversations, that's what it's all about.
	And those are the people that you can get.
	And I think in a weird way, the more that these people become hysterical, the more they're pushing people to us.
	So, again, this is why, whatever this group of people is, the reason we all keep getting pushed together and the reason that a guy on the left like Sam Harris could be pushed this way and a guy like Ben Shapiro could be pushed this way is that what I think is in the middle is it's not about politics, it's about freedom.
	When you take these two guys, I mean this to me is the best example, they disagree on literally everything from God and existential issues to taxes and abortion and everything else.
	But they're allies because they're both fighting for their right to be able to think freely and express themselves freely.
	And that is a beautiful thing and that's what it's all about.
	Okay, real quick here.
	Oh, all right.
	A lot of people still asking about the sweatshirt.
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	What are your predictions for the midterm election?
	I said a couple months, maybe two months ago, that I didn't think it was going to be this, you know, they were talking about the blue wave and the democratic wave and all that.
	I just don't really see it.
	Now, you have to remember, with midterms it's particularly hard to judge these things properly because so few people vote that it's only about voter turnout.
	So it's a little harder to gauge, I think, than a presidential election.
	What I would say is that I see a lot of reason to think that there won't be a blue wave.
	If anything, there will be a red wave.
	I think it partly has to do with Kanye West and Candace Owens, where I think the black community is starting to break.
	I mean, a poll came out right after the Kanye West thing that said black male support for Trump doubled from 11 to 22% within a week.
	If that had been any other president in the history of the world, People would have gone bananas.
	Mainstream basically ignored that.
	Black male support for the president doubled in a week, and barely anybody talked about that.
	So I still think, you know, I see people all the time, people come up to me here in L.A.
	where you can't really say you're a Trump supporter or a Republican or whatever, and they know that I'm not, I don't even vote for the guy, and they'll come up to me and say, you know, Dave, I'm so sick of this political correctness stuff.
	I mean, the same stuff that was happening before the election that has just ramped up even more, that they're subtly, they're like, I'm starting to like Trump.
	It's weird.
	It's really weird.
	So I don't know that there's going to be a blue wave.
	Again, it's all about turnout.
	And what I think will happen is that within the We'll do some shows, obviously, leading up to it, and I would say that about two weeks before the election, that's when we'll really be able to figure out what's going on here, sort of around the 20th or so of October, because that's when we'll see really, like, which base is more enthused and which isn't, and just what is—I mean, there's so many X factors, it's hard to figure it out this early on.
	So all these people that pretend they know what they're saying, I mean, they just don't.
	Okay, let's see.
	What single book has had the greatest impact on changing your way of thinking or worldview?
	Well, you know, I've been traveling with On Liberty by John Stuart Mill, and it's a very easy read, and I would recommend that all of you guys get it.
	But I think, you know, there's so many great books here from so many great people, but one book that I do reference a lot, and I think it was formative for me for several reasons.
	I'm in 1997 I was a I think it was a junior I was either a sophomore or junior in college and I saw the movie contact the movie with Jodie Foster and Matthew McConaughey it's the only book of fiction ever written by Carl Sagan and I just thought it was the most wonderful movie about All of the things that I care about, the battle between science and religion and government and belief and all of these things.
	By the way, I just watched it a few months ago.
	Now it's even more relevant in a weird way than ever before.
	And it's done by Robert Zemeckis, who's brilliant, who did Apollo 13 and Forrest Gump and a bunch of other stuff.
	Anyway, that movie...
	Got me to read the book, Contact, which is also wonderful.
	But then it got me to read many other Carl Sagan books.
	And his last book, which a lot of people don't even know about, and he actually passed away before he finished it, and then his wife, Ann Druyan, who's also a professor at Cornell, she actually finished the book, or at least did the last paragraph.
	It's called Billions and Billions, and it's funny because Carl opens the book by saying that, you know, for some of you guys that are a little older, you may remember Johnny Carson doing an impression of Carl Sagan saying, Billions and Billions, talking about stars.
	Apparently Carl Sagan actually never even said that phrase, but people used to attribute it to him all the time, but that's why he titled it Billions and Billions.
	And it's just a wonderful book on tribalism and religion, and he talks a little bit about I think he talks a little bit about marijuana
	or maybe that's in Cosmos.
	It's just a wonderful book.
	His true gift was being able to communicate science and thoughtful ideas to sort of regular people.
	So if you're looking for just something readable that's not like hundreds of pages
	that's gonna like slam you with complex information, but something that can open up some of the doors
	Billions and billions by Carl Sagan.
	I can't, I can't recommend it any higher.
	All right.
	Uh, okay.
	We gotta, we gotta wrap this thing up cause I got two guests coming.
	I just came in from Philly this morning.
	I got, I got two guests coming, uh, which you'll find out about in the next couple of days.
	Uh, so just a reminder guys, uh, June 7th at Tempe Improv, uh, June, uh, I'm sorry, June 7th.
	Yeah.
	No.
	June 3rd at Tempe Improv, June 7th at the DC Improv, and June 20th at Seattle Parlor Live.
	The links are right down below, and if you do buy this and you're one of the first people to buy tickets while you're watching this, one of the first 20 at any of those locations, you're getting in for the meet and greet for absolutely free.
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	All right, I'm gonna take a few minutes to throw a little water on my face, collect myself.
	We got two shows coming up today.
	And then I'm home actually for the weekend where I'm gonna try to relax a little bit and just chill out and not spend time online or any of that other stuff.
	And then we're back out on the road.
	On Tuesday, we're in Houston, and then I think the next night we're in Dallas, and then Austin.
	And we're just rolling on.
	So we're doing this basically The rest of May, the rest of June.
	We're doing a ton of it in July.
	I signed on for most of those.
	And then Jordan's actually going to continue into August, but I'm doing the off-the-grid for August thing, so I had to say no to the rest of that.
	And I want to talk more about my ideas for me going off the grid, and I want to challenge some of you guys, perhaps, to join me on this.
	Many of you know I did this last year where I locked my phone in a safe and didn't watch the news, didn't do anything online.
	No computers, no television or anything, nothing electronic, and it was life-changing, and I'm going to do it again in August, and I think this year I'm going to challenge you guys to maybe try a version of it for yourself, if not for the month, maybe for a week, or whatever you can do.
	Anyway, I'm super psyched about what's going on.
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