Bob Saget and Dave Rubin dissect political gridlock, contrasting Mitch McConnell's refusal to use the nuclear option with Democrats blocking Richard Grenell's ambassadorship. They analyze comedy's evolution from Don Rickles' irreverence to modern political correctness, arguing humor should stem from love rather than hatred. Discussing Steven Pinker's data on global progress versus media negativity, Saget critiques today's parodic news cycles while championing empathy over partisan conflict. Ultimately, their six-hour dialogue suggests that authentic storytelling and kindness remain vital antidotes to societal dysfunction. [Automatically generated summary]
You guys know that I try my best to stay out of the day-to-day political bickering
and focus more on big ideas and the philosophies which are behind all the fighting.
all the fighting.
This doesn't mean I'm ignoring the issues of the moment, be it North Korea, the gun debate, or the general state of Trumpism, but focusing on why people believe what they believe is far more valuable to me than adding fuel to the fire of whatever the story of the day might be.
Toss in a healthy dose of political gridlock and we seem to have lots of people who are yelling, but very few people who are doing.
There's one issue happening in American politics right now, which is a great example of the stagnation we face, but that is totally flying under the radar.
Right now, dozens of countries, some of them key strategic allies, don't have U.S.
ambassadors because the Senate has refused to vote on their confirmation.
According to the rules of the Senate right now, the Senate needs 30 hours of debate to confirm an ambassadorship.
You can imagine with all the nonsensical waste in DC how impossible it would be to spend 30 hours debating each of the new ambassadorships when a new administration comes in.
We'd be talking about literally thousands of hours of debate for a branch of government which can't seem to agree on which flavor of yogurt should be served at the Capitol Hill Commissary.
Back in 2014, when the Democrats controlled the Senate, then-Majority Leader Harry Reid used what is known as the nuclear option to get many Obama appointees through the Senate.
In effect, Reid changed the rules so that a simple majority, rather than a 60-vote supermajority, would be enough to confirm ambassadors, federal judges, and other positions.
Though I was firmly on the left at the time, and I had no issue I can remember with the Obama appointees, I was against Reid using such a drastic tactic.
To me, if you change the rules when you're in power, it's incredibly obvious, and probably quite deserved, when those same rules will be used against your team when you're not in power.
You can rightly blame Republicans for not voting on the Obama appointees in 2014 just as right now you can rightly blame Democrats for not voting on Trump appointees in 2018.
This is exactly why people rightfully hate the political machine in Washington.
It either does nothing or it changes the rules to suit itself while usually leaving the people it's supposed to serve far behind.
The Republicans, now led by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, could use what is known as the nuclear option right now, just as Reid and the Democrats did back in 2014.
For whatever reason, McConnell refuses to do so.
Some are saying he has such an old school affinity for the rules of the Senate that he doesn't want to stoop to what Reid did.
In a certain way this seems like a principled position, but at this point in American politics I wonder if clinging on to the old ways while your ideological opponents chisel away at those very institutions at every opportunity makes much sense at all.
Let me add another wrinkle to this story.
The highest ranking ambassadorship that we now have open, Germany, has been offered to former U.S.
spokesman for the U.N.
Richard Grenell.
Richard is the longest serving U.N.
spokesman in history, working for four different U.S.
ambassadors.
He's also served several other positions in the government, as well as worked for a few other high-level political campaigns.
By every measure, he's supremely qualified, and I've seen plenty of people on both sides of the aisle that praise him as the exact type of person that we need more of in politics.
Richard and I have become friends over the past few years and I can personally tell you that he's truly a decent guy who just wants to serve his country.
Oh, and there's one other piece to this.
Richard happens to be gay.
You may remember, back in 2012, Richard was briefly a spokesman for the Romney campaign until the media decided to attack an openly gay man for daring to work for the Republican candidate Mitt Romney, thus causing Richard to step down from the campaign because he didn't want to be a distraction.
Apparently, although Romney felt it was just fine to hire a gay man, and Richard felt it was totally okay to work for Romney, the media just wouldn't let it be.
Gay conservatives like Richard, much like black conservatives like Larry Elder, or female conservatives like Nikki Haley, challenge the orthodoxy that the Democrats must own all of these groups of people.
I mention Richard's sexuality not because it's important or even relevant, unless you play the identity politics game as so many do.
In effect, the Democrats are blocking an extremely qualified, openly gay man from serving his country.
Aren't the Democrats and lefties supposed to be for gays?
Isn't that part of their intersectional worldview?
Immutable characteristics often trump qualifications if you subscribe to this line of thinking.
Shouldn't this also mean supporting gay people whose political positions you might disagree with because you believe in their ability to think for themselves?
Or perhaps the so-called tolerant side really isn't pro-gay or pro-any minority, they are actually only pro-those who believe as they do.
Now, obviously you know that I don't think anyone should be confirmed because of their sexuality, nor should their sexuality matter in the least when it comes to being nominated in the first place.
I just think that this particular case is interesting on so many levels.
We have the gridlock of Washington with Democrats refusing to vote on Trump nominees.
We have a majority leader in McConnell that refuses to use his option to confirm nominees, even though the previous Senate leader, Reid, did exactly just that.
We have dozens of qualified candidates waiting to do their civic duty, and we have just as many countries waiting for our ambassadors to move there and get to work.
Caught in all of this mess is a good man, Richard Grinnell, who I happen to know personally, who doesn't want extra credit for being gay, but just wants to get to work.
How can you make a difference in all this?
Call your local senator and ask their assistant at the office why they aren't voting on these nominees.
In other words, years ago when you would say, I want to see what you're like unconscious, that would be a joke.
But unfortunately, we are in a world right now where That's actually happened.
So a lot of things that are irreverent and could be considered funny Are not yeah, and so there's this buffering that goes on before but either way you did not get overly inebriated and you were more than pleasant and we had a lovely night and With both of our significant others, who we both adore, and we laughed, and we had good food.
Like, you're used to doing, I mean, obviously, I wanna talk stand-up and everything else, but you do scripted series, you do movies, things like that, but you also do, you do panel on talk shows, things that are sort of, They're kind of old school now.
Like, that's very different than coming in here and right before we start, I said to you, we're just gonna go for it, and you were like, whatever you want.
I mean, I don't have to look, I can just do that, and we're good.
I love the fact that this exists, because years ago, if you wanted to go on a show and have a one-on-one with someone, you were a baby, but it was Tom Snyder.
And my fiance, Kelly, turned me on to your show, and I said, I really like him, and I like what he's talking about, and you had guests on, and you were able to be a diplomat.
Which is very difficult to do when you have people with different points of view, a conservative and a liberal, which I don't understand.
Well, we're gonna dive into all that, because I did notice that, for you, it's interesting, I think, because your stand-up is so different than your television persona, between America's Funniest Home Videos and Full House.
Well, they're the old ones, though, but then Entourage, that was kind of like a thing, but then I did a bunch of acting stuff, too, and I've done Broadway work, which was, some of it was similar to my stand-up, but I've always done something that's, every seven years, there's some new incarnation that people go, who the hell is he?
Yeah, well that's why I think it's interesting because especially with celebrities, people like to just get in, or anyone that's public, they like to just get a kind of image of you and then just run with that forever.
That's gotta be the most beautiful shift in comedy, right?
Do you remember that moment when you went from, like, being a guy that was just, you know, trying to get on 8th out of 10 comics at the end of the night and nobody knows who you are?
Do you remember the beginning of when people were going, I'm going to see Bob Saget?
Yeah, what happened was I came out to L.A., I had won the Student Academy Award for a documentary I made about my nephew who had his face reconstructed when he was seven.
And I won this Student Academy Award for a documentary, and then I went on to the Comedy Store the next night, and Mitzi, the owner of the Comedy Store, said, you should work here.
Like, my first joke was, I have... The first joke!
I have the brain of a German Shepherd and the body of a 16-year-old boy, and they're both in my car, and I want you to see them.
No, it's just an odd rambling, but it symbolizes, I think it answers the question of how did he become this, because he was that, if you're going to be third person on myself.
And then I started going on a college tour.
She put me on a, Mitzi Schor, from the Comedy Store, put me on a college tour, and I was a guitar act.
parodies and I would sing while my guitar gently weeps, turn a valve and water poured out of the guitar.
And you could only see it in the first 10 rows, so it doesn't really play.
So in my early 20s, I'd go out on the road, while I was taking five years of acting classes
with a teacher named Darrell Hickman in LA, while I was doing improv classes at the Groundlings,
while I was doing spots at the comedy store, I'd go out on the road and then headline and then make
money.
But not enough to get a career.
And then I was like eight, nine years of hosting the comedy store in Westwood, and that was hard.
But I got to Befriend people that I worshipped, which were Richard Pryor, Robin Williams, and David Letterman was one of my first emcees.
And so I was 22 years old and the place was, it's packed like it was then, kind of now.
Bad sentence.
But in the early 80s, it was, you could not get into any room.
Every single person on the lineup was like and I was hosting a lot of the shows So but then everybody went off and got TV shows and I was still at the comedy store Hosting and thinking this is it.
I'm never gonna make it And then I got in a Richard Pryor movie, and then I got on a CBS show, and a Morning Show.
And I remember holding Garrett Morris from Saturday Night Live by the testicles, and Richard kept telling me to squeeze harder, and that was a reshoot.
I can see that when you talk about it, sort of, and I've had this with a couple other comics that were around at that time, there's like a real nostalgia for it.
Do you remember thinking it was a special Yeah, but you remember it at the time thinking like I'm really in a hundred percent Because usually people don't like the good old days.
They weren't good old days Yeah, because you know you're in a place that is you know in the comedy stars a lot of history and it's heroes is the main room and there's supposed to be ghosts in there and Sam Kenison says he saw a quarter floating in the air of a dead mobster or something and I believe all of it.
I spent a lot of time in there and It was struggling, you know, you'd have people come and see you.
Rodney Dangerfield was kind to me, put me on a Young Comedian special, but it was all, you know, I was the warm-up comic for Bosom Buddies with Tom Hanks and Peter Scolari, and it was all struggling, you know, but you need it.
And I used to wait in line in New York at the Improv and Catch a Rising Star for 10 hours.
Sign the line-up sheet and wait for 10-12 hours.
And I think there's something, if you come out of the dugout, or the trenches, sorry.
So it hurt me, because I couldn't get on the damn show.
But I wasn't, I really wasn't meant to.
I mean, I hate to say those kind of words.
You know, it's not meant to be or whatever.
It was a hell of a lot better to sit there and talk a couple segments with Johnny Carson and him like me and be able to talk to a guy that you looked up to so much because he was kind of a master.
And I'm not even making this up, because I'm not delusional, he liked me.
And I still can't figure that out.
But I would say something like, David Letterman had a lot of his amazing qualities, and it would respond the same way to this, because one of my patters that I would say is, this is true, and Johnny would go, I don't care.
I'm blanking on the title of Bill Maher's first book, the novel that he wrote about stand-up, but the first line in it, he says something about, this is true, which is exactly what a comic says when they're about to tell you something false.
And it's on Amazon Prime, so my joke is, here's a joke with it, that with two clicks you can buy the lotion to watch the special, inferring that that's how aroused you'll get watching my special.
There's many different ways, and Netflix is kind of the jewel in the crown, so is HBO, but they mostly have a few new people, but mostly they're regular team members, you know, Bill or George Lopez, of course, who is just wonderful, and I just like George.
This has been a really cool model, and being on Amazon Prime is actually, the world has it.
I just wanted it to be seen by as many people as possible.
Yeah, so I told you this when we had dinner a couple weeks ago, but my sister was, she's nine years younger than me, she was so, and I know you hear this all the time, but she was so obsessed with that show that we were never allowed to watch TV at dinner, my family, that was it.
We would sit and have a good time or a bad time or argue or laugh or whatever, but my sister at some point took control of the family.
and suddenly "Full House" was being watched during dinner.
There are ways to bash people, but it's turned mean.
And what happened is, and this is an understatement, I was roasted on Comedy Central.
John Stamos was the Roastmaster.
All my friends were there.
I got to pick who was on it.
Most people don't.
You know, Justin Bieber roasts.
No one knows him.
Most of the people.
And people think roasting people is supposed to be mean.
And if it doesn't come out of kindness and love of the person, Or just blind, I'm going to attack them, but there's no attachment of anger to this.
It's just evil.
It's just wrong, and we're in a society where people will, they'll hit you back on a tweet, they'll watch something, you'll see people on the news, you'll listen to political leaders talk, you'll hear people bash each other back and forth, and it comes from Don Rickles thinking that that's what he did.
That's not what the man did.
The man would...
Would just, you know, see a man and a woman in the audience and say, is this your wife?
And the guy would go, yes.
And Don would go, oh!
And that's just... And his age had something to do with it, but also his tenacity.
And he started in the lounge at two in the morning doing three shows till five in the morning.
And talk about the trenches.
And all love.
So if someone comes out and makes fun of people, Does it out of love or does it out of truth? That's the
safest way we're at right now That's where the Chappelle thing comes to that's where you
look at certain people I really enjoy Mark Maron a lot
Bill Burr, I mean, there's so many people that are so good That that some people don't even
Know about that sell out places constantly that are just like Brian Regan. It's just
He's brilliant.
I mean, here's three new hours.
He's like, what?
And it's clean.
Or you go see Seinfeld do what he does and you go, that's why he's Jerry Seinfeld.
Because it's not just wordsmith.
He's connected to everything he did.
It might be word-for-word in some ways another night, but my god, it's fun.
Yeah, you know and then all you know, I love anybody who is funny who Just is there to entertain people and it's not only about them, which is hard because we're a very narcissistic group Right, I mean, comics are a particular, there's a certain breed of craziness, right, that comes with comedy.
The best line I ever heard about that was, I've mentioned this a few times, George Carlin on The View once, and he's sitting there with all the women around him, and he was talking about, you know, he was selling, or they had just come out with like this anthology, so that's what he was there for.
But he said something about how to be a good comic, you have to have a ton of shit, like you have to have all this pain and all this angst and all this stuff, but then at some point, You gotta conquer it, because otherwise it'll conquer you, and that's why so many comics die of drug overdoses and all this other stuff.
No, that has been known and I hopefully will live long enough that at 92 years old I'll be on Broadway and I'll have an earwig in and they'll feed me the lines and I don't care.
If I'm good, if it's done right.
I saw Peter O'Toole and Amanda Plummer in My Fair Lady.
The most miscast version of My Fair Lady on Broadway and I think he had a thing in his ear.
He was no child when he did it playing That character is very fascinating, because My Fair Lady, which is a play, I don't know if people are familiar.
We switched studios from Sony, because I know people want to get their demographics right on Google Maps, to Warner Brothers to be on the same stage exactly where Fuller House is done now.
That somehow, all of the stuff that people click that's just quick and you watch someone get smashed with something or hit with something or fall, it was all born out of people walking around with camcorders just because you guys were like, Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah, I wrote it with two, the jokes were two Canadian guys, so there was an 18% exchange rate on the humor.
But it was Todd Thicke's brother, may he rest in peace, know his brothers a lot, Todd Thicke, Alan Thicke's brother, and Bob Arnott, that's a writer from the Smothers Brothers Show.
And we wrote all the jokes.
We wrote 55 pages a week.
I would do the voiceovers, look out!
Oh, look at me!
You know, this bad Mel Blanc, who was Warner Brothers' Bugs Bunny.
And there was no way to stop it because it was a guaranteed laugh.
And what I didn't like, what would bother me is if a guy falls in a manhole And then you see somebody in the audience throw their head back laughing, but you never see him climb out of the manhole.
But it's interesting, 'cause it's like kind of one of those things that we don't have anymore.
We don't have shows... But we need variety.
Right, there are things like, yes, everyone watches Game of Thrones, or everyone watches this or that on Netflix, but we don't have mainstream, decent things that families can watch anymore that put all the nonsense aside, you know?
Yeah, but that's not really... It wouldn't play in prime time, but you want something... You're talking, you want something that's funny, but also you can do some serious stuff.
All the actors in the movie were on crystal meth during the making of the movie in order to be able to survive working with me because I was out of my mind because we had a 15-day shoot.
And so in the movie, my son Benjamin, we believe, is on crystal meth.
And so Mary Lynn Rice Cub plays my girlfriend.
She's from 24, a very good comedian actress.
And she posts on Facebook that we need an intervention for the boy.
And that's not where you post an intervention.
People don't post interventions on Facebook.
It's supposed to be kind of quiet and done properly.
Maybe a note.
Post it.
And so Rob Corddry is our family gynecologist.
He leads the intervention.
And Kevin Pollack plays my brother.
And Perry Gilpin's in it.
And Claire Mamet.
Gotta have a Mamet.
She's so good at it.
And David Hull and Johnny Weston.
And it's just, it's an ensemble.
And it takes place in one night.
And it's just basically the one line would be on it that the people The person you think has a problem, it's the people, and I can't really give my own one line for many of them.
All right, let's talk, I just want to talk about politics and just kind of what you think is going on in the world because... Because that's what you do here.
That is what I do here, but even though I only know you a little bit from the conversation we had at dinner, I just got a sense that like you actually...
You're obviously very sensitive, like that's pretty clear to me.
I never think of myself as a liberal, but I must be.
I look at myself as a humanist.
I was on a plane the other day, which no comedian's ever said, and a gentleman was on the plane, And he was about 60 years old and he seemed like a successful businessman of some kind.
And I was in the first class section because there was a cat back in coach.
Yeah, I still consider myself a liberal, but most of the liberal things that I believe in, I can pretty much explain from a libertarian perspective at this point.
But that's what taxes are about, and that's where our incredibly rich Society and our incredibly poor society are at odds with each other, and that has been since the beginning of time.
Since, you know, castles were built with a dictator and a king living in it, and everybody had to go build all this stuff, and they were slaves.
So, I mean, the metaphor doesn't change.
The representation doesn't change that the downtrodden are downtrodden and are disgruntled.
And then other people are angry at things that they should just take a frickin' chill pill over.
Yeah, well that constant outrage thing... Well, there's a lot to be outraged over also, because the problem with wanting to entertain people, with wanting to be a comedian, is it's nearly impossible when there's so many deaths, when there's so many tragic things happening, which there always have been.
We are at a news ratio where it's coming at us.
You just, you know, you hit your computer on and it says, you know, news alert and you hit news alert and you're like, you're afraid to hit the button.
You're afraid to get up in the morning and hit whatever news service you.
So that's just a matter of us knowing about it more, because I have Steven Pinker on next week who's a Harvard psychologist, and his whole argument is actually that things are better than they've ever been, using empirical scientific evidence about the amount of people that are killed.
And if we're presented the positive, it's through a skewed broadcast.
It's not really presented by someone that comforts you.
This show comforts you more than most shows because of the way you handle it.
That's just a fact.
You're trying to, I've watched you several times, you're trying to put two factions together that might have similar or opposed views, discussing opposed views, and are saying, why can't it be like this?
Because if you try to go toward an idealistic goal, The dream of it is how you can almost get there.
That's how the country was founded besides, you know, taking a lot of things away from the people that lived here.
I saw him just last night, and he said aloha, because we were in Hawaii together.
Yeah, but I do say that I'd rather get my news from, you know, from John Oliver and Bill Maher and Stephen Colbert and Seth Meyers and Jimmy Kimmel than the newscasters.
We need a relief and so the news itself is already a parody and it's also so obsessive no matter where it's coming from and we're also dealing with a regime which flip-flops in the media And on Twitter, faster than it's ever existed, because we never had a president tweet us.
We did.
Obama did, but it wasn't like, I hate this, I love this.
Yeah, because I talk about the problems that I see with the modern-day left and the liberals, and they don't like someone to address those things that was once one of them.
To be honest, John Oliver has been, I can't think of anyone political that has made me go, Well, there's a great hope there.
And I'm interested in something some people have to say that seemed, wow, that was noble, but they're not going to do anything about it, or they're not going to run.
And that people, and that whatever differences that we may have, where, you know, you're probably still a little more left than I am on some things, it just doesn't even matter.
It just doesn't even matter, but the point is that the reason that shows like this are working is because of this, that you were willing to come here, sit down, say whatever.
Or what William F. Buckley, or any of these people who said, let's try to find some answers.
And you can get, I think, as many answers from Bob Saget as you can from the guys.
I think you get far more answers from listening to someone like you who has some life experience and that cares than you can virtually listening to CNN all day long.
Well, you can get what we never got into, which I don't want to get into, which is all the death that I had in my family.
So much death of friends.
I just lost someone today.
I think it's on bad luck.
We can go there.
Well, all I was going to say was that's what centers everybody.
Because the things we all go through are birth and death, and they all happen differently.
And when they happen at an unfortunate age, like our lost two sisters at 34 and 47, that's what centers you.
That's bigger than everything, is the loss of life.
And when people die, when young people die, there's nothing more.
That's all that matters.
The rest of it is your belief, this is that, this is that.
Yes, you want to solve in a civilization how to keep people alive, but...
The empathy is what's missing.
And just quickly to touch on what we didn't touch on, what we talked about before the show started.
The talk shows that exist at night, the chat shows, as they call them in England.
When I would do Johnny Carson's show, and before him was Jack Parr, who I got to meet, and before him was Steve Allen, who I got to meet, and these are guys that, they all had the Tonight Show, those gentlemen.
And then Johnny ended up with it.
They would tell their guests, you're coming to a cocktail party.
How do I dress?
Like a cocktail party.
How do I talk?
You're at a cocktail party.
You're in Johnny's living room and he's sharing that living room with everybody.
Well, why does he have a desk in his living room?
Because he wants a desk.
He wants a place for his ashtray.
He smokes.
He's got a little maybe he's got a drink there or whatever.
You know, it's funny, I remember, so I was never, even though I think you know him personally, I was never a fan of Leno on The Tonight Show.
I loved Carson, even though it was my kind of very early years, but Leno, to me, I always liked the Bill Hicks thing more, and you know, they had that rival, and I liked that sort of more raw comedy, and Leno to me was like, he was just the corporate version, so I never liked it, but in an odd way, I suddenly have this bizarre respect for him now.
But I mean that he wasn't overtly political all the time, where now it's always political, and I almost miss that in a way, even though he wasn't really my guy in terms of comedy.
But I know everyone says he's an incredible stand-up, which has nothing to do with The Tonight Show.
I've never wanted to do, I've never wanted to perform more.
I'm more motivated to go do stand-up.
I've booked these stand-up, I'm on tour, trying to work out, trying to come up with new stuff, because, you know, you do a special and you deplete it, but, you know, you don't want to just give them something they just bought or heard.
But people really need it, and I need to do it.
It takes people out of it and brings them into their life, you know?
I was telling you before about my thing when I was on at the RNC convention and I was sweating like crazy and Larry King said, you're sweating more like Albert Brooks in Broadcast News.
I'm on the video show, which is number one at the time, so you can then list famous people on the plane in the newspaper by who's the most famous and how they're listed in the newspaper.
But I was on a plane with David Bowie and Amman, and Greg Kinnear and Richard Lewis.
And also Mark McKeown, who was on the CBS Morning News and a friend of mine.
And so the plane starts taking off.
This would never exist today.
As we're taking off in the air, we hear an explosion and one of the engines apparently
blows out.
The plane goes rickety.
We then land at JFK.
This is a very long time ago and we find out First, they take the VIPs, which is people I named, on two carts and Richard Lewis is yelling next to David Bowie, only a couple of us are Jews!
I'm like, do not do this.
So now we're in the club and I'm getting to talk to David Bowie.
So I'm going, okay, this was worth an explosion.
I'm fine.
And who could not have been more gracious.
And it was dangerous and upsetting.
Two hours go by, they put us back on the same plane.
Turns out it was a fuel hose that came loose, which is just like turning a screw on a gasket on your lawnmower.
And they fixed it, which would never happen now.
They would get you a new plane or cancel you completely, or whatever.
Right.
And we then took off, and I made some joke.
I think the movie Outbreak had just come out.
And I said something like, there was a monkey caught in the engine.
And then Richard Lewis yells out, that's a good one Bob, Iman is from Zaire.
And so I'm called out, and then as we take off, Richard Lewis yells, thanks Bob, to the whole plane.
And at that time you could go into the cockpit, this is pre-9-11, and I was able to ask the pilots what happened.
So I actually told the VIPs, no one else, what happened.
They didn't tell the other people.
So that's a true disaster story.
I mean, that could have ended incredibly badly and I would have been fourth.
You know, it's one of the nicest moments I've had on this, when I had Richard Lewis on and he left, and you know, he's kind of a germaphobe, as Larry and all these guys are, and you know, he doesn't shake hands, he does this, but as he said goodbye to me, I walked him out, and when I opened up the door, he just, he said something like, you're great, and he touched me on the cheek, and I was like, I like, melted.
You're going to talk philosophically like you do on here about life and then you button it with something humorous or you feather it throughout with jokes.
But then there's sort of the Gary Shanling way, which was, you know, there's that great moment in the documentary Comedian where he, Jerry shows him his papers and it looks, you know, Hitler wrote it because it's like so perfect.
And then you have Gary Shanling who pulls out this crumbled piece of paper.
That's much closer to what I am.
I have some ideas and I did, I was on a beach last week in Florida and I wrote out the hour and some of it is stuff that I've done through the years that I've just updated but it's all based in what I'm doing here and I'm trying to just be true.
And it'll infiltrate this and might not only be stand-up, but it's an interesting thing to do, to be able to go, hey, I'm going to do Vegas three times this year.
But he, to this day, I could say, oh my god, a goat with dynamite and he will laugh because it's when you know somebody and you just get them, you know?
And I saw a bunch of comics last night.
I saw Paul Reiser and it was Billy Crystal's birthday and it's just nice seeing all these people that I Yeah, well, that's why it's so magical, that time, right?
His HBO special, which I think maybe he only had one, which is a real disservice, although he's had many other specials, to me might be the funniest half hour ever.
There is something about him, and he was always a friend of mine, always a friend of Jerry's.
He's just a funny, funny guy.
And he would mess with me.
One time, he was opening for Tom Jones a lot on the road, and I lived in Hollywood on Camino Palmeiro, and he went out of town, but I forgot that he went out of town, and we were buddies.
And he said, he called me up, he said, Saget, make me chicken.
I said, OK.
I had no life.
You know, I was waiting for the comedy star that night.