Sept. 28, 2017 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| All right, guys, we're live on the YouTube and joining me today is a YouTuber who has | ||
| done pretty much the scariest thing that one person can do. | ||
| She has come out as conservative. | ||
| The scariest of all words. | ||
| Candace Owens, aka Red Pill Black. | ||
| Welcome to The Rubin Report. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm so happy to be here right now. | ||
| I am very happy to have you here. | ||
| Should I be calling you Candace or Red Pill Black? | ||
| How are we going to do this? | ||
| I guess people are calling me Red Pill Black, so either or. | ||
| You can call me Candace. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You said you were just walking down the street, so I'm like, there's Red Pill Black. | ||
| Yeah, there's Red Pill Black. | ||
| And I'm like, I'm Candace. | ||
| But I'm glad it's catching. | ||
| I like Red Pill Black, so. | ||
| So before you were a YouTuber, which you're actually pretty new to, you went by Candace in the real world. | ||
| I went by Candace, yeah. | ||
| All right, well I feel like we're gonna be on the level, so I'm gonna go with Candace while we're sitting here. | ||
| So you have a crazy story, an interesting evolution. | ||
| You suddenly caught fire, and you're doing pieces all over the place. | ||
| You were on the Daily Wire this morning, I saw you on Jesse Waters, was it this past weekend, right? | ||
| Just a couple days ago, saw a clip of that. | ||
| You're bouncing around, you're making moves, Who is this Candace person? | ||
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All right, let's just do some history for the people that don't know about you at all. | |
| Honestly, I'm just a girl that makes videos. | ||
| The history is I grew up in Stamford, Connecticut. | ||
| I went to school at the University of Rhode Island, pursued a degree in journalism, which is quite ironic. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| After college, I was in a lot of student loan debt. | ||
| I came from a family that doesn't have any money whatsoever, and I had to just pay it back. | ||
| So the smartest move for me was to go into finance. | ||
| I hit the ground running in New York City, worked at a private equity firm for four years. | ||
| I left that firm and wanted to do my own anti-bullying startup thing that went really sideways when the left tried to do hit pieces on me during the election and that was my red pill moment. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So wait, how did doing an anti-bullying thing get you caught up in the left? | ||
| So I don't know if many people that watch this show are familiar with the Gamergate scandal. | ||
| I certainly wasn't. | ||
| I think most of my audience is familiar-ish, but nobody fully gets it, I think. | ||
| But feel free to take us down that road for a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, so long story short, that whole scandal is built on a girl named Zoey Quinn, who says that she was attacked by anonymous white men on the internet. | ||
| And people were saying that that wasn't true, and she said that it was. | ||
| If they were anonymous, how did she know their skin color? | ||
| now if you read the pieces in the media it's fascinating you know yeah so I was | ||
| doing an anti-bullying startup that I was really passionate about and I got a | ||
| phone call from her and I put up a basically a three-minute video on | ||
| Kickstarter teasing what we were gonna do I said this one sentence which was a | ||
| figure of speech that I think set the alarms off I said, what we're doing is figuratively lifting the masks up off of trolls. | ||
| At the time, she was, uh, working at Twitter. | ||
| She was working for Twitter for something called Crash Override Network, and I immediately received an inbox from her on Twitter saying she'd like to talk to me about and try to convince me that the project that I'm doing is bad, which is very interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So she calls me up, and I have no idea who she is. | ||
| I don't know what Gamergate is. | ||
| I don't know what doxing means. | ||
| And she says, you have to pull your project because, uh, People actually don't want to find out who harassed them. | ||
| Shit, I'm a victim, but I never want to know who harassed me on the Internet. | ||
| Like, she was basically arguing a point that didn't make sense. | ||
| If she was actually harassed on the Internet, then obviously my technology would be a godsend, because they never figured out who harassed her. | ||
| I said, you know, I appreciate the phone call. | ||
| This isn't really making sense to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It sounds literally the reverse of what you think she would have called you to say. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Like, she should have been on board with what I was doing. | ||
| I said, totally appreciate the phone call, but I'm not going to pull my Kickstarter. | ||
| And she started crying. | ||
| And she said, if you don't, it's going to ruin everything. | ||
| And she told me that she spends time on 4chan because of what she does and she saw that people were already talking about my project and if I didn't pull it, they, these anonymous white men and Trump supporters, you have to remember this was during the election cycle, We're going to come after me and dox my family, which essentially means put up their personal information so people can try to kill them. | ||
| That's what she says. | ||
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So she said, this is what they are going to do. | |
| So she was oddly threatening you with being doxed, but it wasn't she that was going to dox you. | ||
| She thought I was a total moron, I think, you know, and I'm like, OK, I'm not pulling my project. | ||
| She hangs up the phone crying. | ||
| Within two hours, we were absolutely inundated, about 4000 emails via Kickstarter, like, you know, nigger, nigger, nigger, die, die, die, you know, pull your project. | ||
| And they have these super obvious screen names like, you know, Trump or die. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trump 2020. | ||
| White man behind computer. | ||
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That's a good one. | |
| That guy's always beating me. | ||
| I'm like, is she kidding? | ||
| All men, by the way. | ||
| Everyone was like, you know, Dave at, you know, Bob at No Woman. | ||
| And magically, everything that she tried to warn me about came true within a couple of hours of me refusing to pull my project. | ||
| So, I tweet very quickly, again, not really knowing the bread and butter of the Gamergate scandal. | ||
| I said, all I can say is that 100% after speaking with Zoe Quinn, this girl was never harassed. | ||
| She's doing the harassing. | ||
| And the next morning I woke up, The Guardian, The Washington Post, and New York Magazine were all calling me. | ||
| I was a nobody with a Kickstarter that was three minutes long. | ||
| Kickstarter pulled my project and the next day, big media. | ||
| And in my head, I'm thinking, you know, journalism major, Washington Post, amazing. | ||
| Like, you know, at that point I considered myself a liberal, a Democrat, if you will. | ||
| And so I was like, great, I'm going to talk to them. | ||
| I'm going to tell them about this girl. | ||
| They're going to write the piece, you know. | ||
| I have a bad feeling where this is about to go. | ||
| This is about to go completely sideways. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I speak to a person named Jesse Singel. | ||
| He works for New York Magazine, and he's like, yeah, I saw your tweets. | ||
| He's not a fan of mine. | ||
| Yeah, well, he is a journalist, journalist hit man, as I like to call them. | ||
| And he speaks to me, he's like, yeah, I saw your tweets, | ||
| I just wanted to speak to you about what happened, you know, super nice. | ||
| Yeah, and I tell him everything. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, you know, Zoe called me up, open and shut case. | ||
| Obviously, she told me to pull my project, I didn't, and then I got harassed. | ||
| He instead writes this article, and the tone of it was essentially trying to gaslight me. | ||
| Oh, you know, she seemed like a nice girl, but she got dragged into this conspiracy theory. | ||
| Zoe actually is a girl that was harassed, you know. | ||
| And at that point, I realized, oh, my God, like, the media is going to try to kill my project, and these journalists are absolutely lying. | ||
| So, The Washington Post called me, and I had the good sense to actually record it. | ||
| I just turned on my camera and said, something's fishy here. | ||
| And this girl was obvious. | ||
| This girl, Caitlin Dewey, was asking me questions, and she was trying to figure out who was funding us. | ||
| And her job or her role was to cut off the funding, cut off the legs of social autopsies so it could never see the light of day. | ||
| And she started calling around. | ||
| So I actually got a tip that she had already written the article and she was going to try to smear me. | ||
| And I essentially went back and forth with the Washington Post. | ||
| I had caught her in a lie via email versus what she said on the phone. | ||
| And they pulled the article last second and told me I wasn't important enough to run it anyways when I threatened to sue them. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| All right, wait, there's so much here, and it's so related to everything, and we haven't even fully got to your political awakening yet. | ||
| So first off, I love that you said they're hit men, not journalists. | ||
| Because the phrase, I mentioned it to you right before we started, I've been saying they're activists, not journalists, but they're hit men, is what they really are. | ||
| There's so many examples of this. | ||
| That guy you mentioned, it's not even worth mentioning his name again, Yeah. | ||
| He's attacked me on Twitter for nonsense. | ||
| And it's just all, it's like you guys, you're not even pretending. | ||
| No, they are hired and the higher ups definitely know about it. | ||
| They are hired to take people out and to take businesses out that, you know, are a threat to them for some reason. | ||
| And my threat was that they actually thought that I had created a technology that was going to unmask trolls. | ||
| Imagine what that would have done in the heat of the election. | ||
| Hillary Clinton had millions of followers on Twitter. | ||
| What if I actually create something and said, actually, that's all coming from, that's like, that's like one person, they've created all these accounts, you know, she's actually not winning this election. | ||
| What if I found out on Twitter that the person that was writing Black Lives Matter saying, die, die, die, nigger, nigger, niggers, was actually someone that worked in Hillary's campaign to create this environment. | ||
| So they were actually terrified that I created something, okay, that was going to ruin everything. | ||
| So wait a minute, so did you actually create? | ||
| No. | ||
| Right, so that's the thing. | ||
| So you didn't even create this technology. | ||
| If they'd actually done their job as journalists and asked me questions about what I had created, they would've left me alone. | ||
| All right, and then Kickstarter pulled it? | ||
| They pulled it, didn't give me a reason. | ||
| They just pulled the project off. | ||
| An anti-bullying, could you do anything that's more innocent or more PG, an anti-bullying, hey, we're raising money, wanna try out this anti-bullying tech startup type thing. | ||
| We had nothing but a splash page at that point. | ||
| Yeah, all right. | ||
| So, you know, it's funny because hearing this, it all sounds incredible, and yet I've personally been part of some of this stuff. | ||
| I've obviously sat across from people, from Brett Weinstein and Colin Moriarty, people that have been through this monster, this dishonest media, the craziness online, all of this stuff. | ||
| So, okay, so this is all happening to you. | ||
| When did you start piecing it together? | ||
| Instantly. | ||
| The second the Washington Post called me and Caitlin Dewey was trying to cut off the legs of the funding, I realized, I had to go back and watch the Kickstarter and say, what did I say that set this off? | ||
| And I realized it was that one line they thought that I actually, and then her saying, you're gonna ruin everything. | ||
| I pieced it all together instantly, and I realized that my friends were my enemies, and my enemies were my friends, and the only Yeah. | ||
| These evil, alt-right racists. | ||
| covered the story extensively and accurately were the white nationalist Breitbart. | ||
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Fascinating, right? | |
| These evil, all right white racists covered a black girl who was trying to do a tech startup | ||
| being attacked by the media. | ||
| It's so interesting that she used the word everything. | ||
| You're gonna ruin everything. | ||
| That's a really fascinating little play. | ||
| And you know how sometimes one word can actually change everything. | ||
| It can change everything, one word, but you're gonna ruin everything. | ||
| You would think that in her line of work, and with all these people, | ||
| they're always complaining about these trolls. | ||
| You would have been handing them. | ||
| the golden ticket. | ||
| Right, and I am convinced it's because they are running essentially an anti-marketing firm, right? | ||
| So they get people to go online and they can build people up or take them down, | ||
| or they can get people fired up by pretending that they're white men, | ||
| and during the election cycle, that was needed. | ||
| Man, some of this, it's like, I try to deal with things in the most sort of | ||
| real world way possible, and yet there's a conspiracy element to this, right? | ||
| Like, and I'm sure you were dealing with that, right? | ||
| How far do I want to go down this? | ||
| Where does this lead me? | ||
| But yet I see real world examples of this all the time. | ||
| Like every now and again, I'll tweet something that might be remotely controversial, or it's usually a joke that someone just takes the wrong way. | ||
| But then I'll see someone will tell me to go fuck myself or something, and then I'll look and it'll have 50 likes, the response. | ||
| Now, none of those people follow me. | ||
| They're all anonymous accounts. | ||
| And it's like, how did you even see that tweet in the first place? | ||
| It's not even how Twitter works. | ||
| So we know that there is some shady shit here. | ||
| It's like, how do we piece all of this together? | ||
| And think, she was working with Twitter at that time. | ||
| She was running the anti-harassment chapter at Twitter called Crash Override Network. | ||
| Mama mia, all right. | ||
| Essentially, Twitter contacted me, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, in effect. | ||
| Okay, okay, so now you're waking up to this stuff. | ||
| You realize it pretty quickly, which is actually a great credit to you, I think, because I think a lot of people kind of see it and then you either get scared or you're like, no, no, I must be doing something wrong or whatever. | ||
| Okay, so you wake up to all this. | ||
| How did this then, how quickly did that jump to the way you thought about politics? | ||
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Instantly. | |
| I mean, I became a conservative overnight, you know? | ||
| I realized that liberals were actually the racists, that liberals were actually the trolls, and then at the very same time, you have to remember, this is April 2016. | ||
| Trump is on the screen saying that the media is lying, that CNN is fake, that all of this, you know, it all began to resonate with me because I realized that everything he was saying was true. | ||
| So I no longer bought into this idea when they were calling him a racist, a rapist, a white nationalist, everything. | ||
| I bought none of it because I knew That the media hired hit men, and they were doing the most ridiculous hit job on Donald Trump from start to finish of his campaign. | ||
| Yeah, all right, so I wanna put Trump aside for a second, but we will get back to Trump, but I'm just completely fascinated by your story. | ||
| So okay, so you get this now about the media, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So what changed within you politically when you say you went from being a liberal to a conservative? | ||
| Did you change on economics, or on abortion, or weed, or gay marriage? | ||
| You know, when I think back on it, I just, I don't even know that I ever really was a liberal. | ||
| I didn't care about politics. | ||
| So you have to think about this. | ||
| I'm just a girl that was trying to pay back my student loans. | ||
| I wasn't involved in politics. | ||
| I didn't really know what being a liberal meant, what being a conservative meant. | ||
| I think, at the end of the day, I was always a conservative. | ||
| I'm pretty rational. | ||
| I'm very fact-based in terms of I will always value, like, you know, economics above, like, social issues and that sort of thing, as I understand that that should take a back seat, obviously. | ||
| You don't want to become a third-world country. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| So I think I was always a conservative or more conservative in that regard, but I started really deeply considering politics, my positions on everything, because of that experience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where are you on the social stuff? | ||
| I support gay marriage. | ||
| I'm not really sure about abortion. | ||
| I don't really have a position on that just yet. | ||
| I think through that a lot. | ||
| I have so many people and friends that have been through it. | ||
| Wow, look at you, a conservative saying, I don't have an answer on that. | ||
| Yeah, I don't have an answer on that. | ||
| I thought you guys are all supposed to be people who rush to judgment, kinda. | ||
| Yeah, no, I'm open, and I make it very clear to everyone that I'm still learning. | ||
| I'm still developing. | ||
| I don't want to be one of these people that sits down and pretends that I know absolutely everything, because I think that that's the problem in the world right now, is that everyone is pretending to know everything, and people aren't willing to learn. | ||
| And if I can go from someone who thought that they were on the left to someone who is, I think, more centrist and more | ||
| conservative in a matter of 365 days, then it would do me a lot of good to continue to keep | ||
| listening and to continue to keep growing. | ||
| Yeah, I like the emphasis on listening there. | ||
| That's nice and it's refreshing and it's real. | ||
| I mean, that's the thing. | ||
| So, okay, so all this happens now. | ||
| You did a hilarious video about what it was like to come out to your parents. | ||
| But when you started talking about this stuff publicly, or did you have a little period first where you were talking about it privately before you started doing the YouTube thing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, as you mentioned, it really was a very scary thing to go through and it was terrifying. | ||
| And you have to remember, I was a private citizen then. | ||
| So when media does hit piece on you and you're a private citizen, that can ruin your entire life. | ||
| You know, you can't go out and get jobs anymore because they naturally believe whatever they read. | ||
| It seems incredibly controversial and people don't want to deal with controversy. | ||
| So I literally took a year off to just kind of rebuild as a person. | ||
| I was like shell-shocked. | ||
| And I knew that I wanted to enter in and I had to. | ||
| I felt like it was incumbent upon me that I understood this, you know, this fascinating thing happened to me. | ||
| I felt like it happened to me for a reason. | ||
| So I wanted to sort of re-enter the market as someone who was more informed and who could potentially red pill other people. | ||
| And then, all right, so what happened? | ||
| So you tell your parents. | ||
| The video you did is great, but what kind of reaction did you get from your parents? | ||
| You know, I really didn't sit them down and tell them. | ||
| I've always been kind of a wild child. | ||
| My parents, I've always had my own mind, my own thoughts. | ||
| I've never been a person that my parents would expect to have to sit them down and tell them anything. | ||
| I do what I want to do, you know what I mean? | ||
| But what was fascinating is the reaction you get thinking more conservatively with your friends, right? | ||
| Your liberal friends. | ||
| They have no tolerance. | ||
| They have no tolerance if you don't start, if you don't sip the liberal Kool-Aid and they're aggressive and they're mean and they can say nasty things and suddenly you hit them with a fact and they're under attack, you know? | ||
| So there was also a natural shedding of my friends because I couldn't bear to be around, you know, people that were constantly in this state of victimhood, who didn't want to exchange ideas, who, you know, if you think that then You're perpetuating rape culture. | ||
| And I'm like, what? | ||
| Because I don't think the judge of Brock Turner's case should get death threats. | ||
| I'm now the perpetrator of rape culture. | ||
| That's pretty aggressive, right? | ||
| What about the type of things that they were saying to you based purely on your race? | ||
| Yeah, instantly. | ||
| If you are an African American or a black person, whatever you want to call it, and you think conservatively, you're instantly considered a traitor, an Uncle Tom, a coon. | ||
| They don't want to hear anything that you have to say. | ||
| Comes with the territory. | ||
| I mentioned this to you right before we started, but I'm just gonna repeat it real quick, because I think it's worthy of repeating, but my friend David Webb, who's a SiriusXM guy and a Fox News contributor, the moment I realized how actually, truly racist, not just the word racist, but truly racist so much of the left was, was I was on air at the Young Turks, and one of the hosts, we were watching a Fox News clip, and one of the hosts was talking about David Webb and saying, you know, what a token black guy he is. | ||
| And I remember thinking, I know him. | ||
| I just had dinner with him two weeks ago. | ||
| This guy believes what he believes. | ||
| That's racist. | ||
| What you just said is racist because you look at a black man and think if he doesn't think the way you want him to, that he's a token. | ||
| This is the essence of prejudice, prejudging. | ||
| Right, and people can't, they can't take that and apply it somewhere else. | ||
| Like if someone said to you, hey, because you're black, you must listen to hip hop music and wear your pants low, you'd say, hey, that's ridiculous. | ||
| You're stereotyping, that's racist. | ||
| But if someone says to you, hey, you're black, so you should be a Democrat, they don't apply that that's the exact same sort of racism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, so. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, it's a phrase that Bill Maher used to say a lot, but originally it's from George W. Bush, which is the soft bigotry of low expectations. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God, that must be endlessly patronizing to have to deal with that bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely it is. | ||
| And, you know, the most refreshing thing in the entire world is that there are a lot of black people that reach out to me on Facebook and say, thank you so much. | ||
| I finally feel like I can come out and say that, you know, I disagree with the way that things are going. | ||
| That's the point of me doing all of this. | ||
| is to give black people, to re-empower them, to not be afraid that you're suddenly gonna get your black card taken away, you know, because you think differently. | ||
| And to really challenge them to think as independents. | ||
| How much is it that, that you think that there are other black people out there that are afraid to deal with what you're dealing with right now? | ||
| Because I see that, I get emails all the time from lefties, I don't even know what color or race they are, it doesn't even matter, but just saying, you know, if I started talking about this shit, I'm gonna get in a lot of trouble. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know why, but there's something about your story that strikes me as so like, just in what's happening right now. | ||
| But that concept though, I get it from these people saying, I'm afraid, I'm afraid, but I never thought of it specifically within the lens of the black community, that they're gonna take away my black card. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| You can get your black card taken away? | ||
| That's impossible. | ||
| These are our stories. | ||
| This is my history. | ||
| This is my grandfather who was raised on a sharecropping farm. | ||
| He's the one who raised me, who was branded in the face by the KKK. | ||
| I know what real racism is, okay? | ||
| And the first thing they do is they threaten to take away your black card. | ||
| And that to me is something like, who taught you to hate your own race when they accomplish something? | ||
| when they do something differently. | ||
| I don't know where that came from. | ||
| The psychology of that has always fascinated me because they use these terms like Coon, like Uncle Tom. | ||
| Who taught them those words? | ||
| Who taught them to be so nasty towards someone of their own race and their own kind, to hate difference in their community? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's really interesting. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| And I always say, I identify as black, but black is not, I don't think that because I'm black, I have to think a certain way. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| There's an odd position here also, because in a weird way, if you just happened to be white and you were saying these things, then in a certain way, you'd probably get a little less traction in this, right? | ||
| Which is a reverse of identity politics, and I know neither one of us want to play those things, but it's even with me, I don't... | ||
| Being gay, it's irrelevant in the scheme of things, but every now and again, I do use it to throw it in their face. | ||
| Like, oh, actually, maybe you guys are the homophobes, if gay people have to bow to everything that you say all the time. | ||
| Gay people, you guys have a whole nother set of issues that definitely need to be addressed, because I'm telling you, they're forcing you back into the closet. | ||
| They're looping you in with issues that don't even make sense, right? | ||
| Like, why the hell should a gay person have this, like, LBGT, how many letters are they gonna stick on that? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, one is just who you're attracted to. | ||
| Being trans has nothing to do with being gay or lesbian, you know? | ||
| But they make you, that's the brainwash, that's the groupthink. | ||
| Well, if we gave you gay marriage, so now you better help trans people get into the military. | ||
| What? | ||
| How did I get here? | ||
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And then the second they don't need, right, exactly. | |
| Well, I always think that, like, I have no more inherent knowledge of what it's like to be trans than a straight person or anyone else. | ||
| I was born in the right body, so I can't... That sounded probably the wrong way. | ||
| You know, to me, I say it all the time, being trans, that's a mental disorder, right? | ||
| That's a mental, your mental and your physical aren't matching up. | ||
| What the hell does that have to do with who you wanna sleep with? | ||
| That's what being gay is, you know? | ||
| So it's interesting to see that they constantly are trying to group people into these things that don't even make sense and tell them that they have to staunchly defend this, you know? | ||
| Well, did you see, I mean, this intersectional road to hell, that's what it is. | ||
| When they latch together, did you see that in Philadelphia at the Gay Pride Parade, They took the rainbow and then they had to put a black and brown bar on it to represent communities of color or whatever it is. | ||
| And it's like, wait a minute, the rainbow had nothing to do with race. | ||
| It was a wide, we welcome everybody, regards for us. | ||
| You guys now are the ones that made this about race. | ||
| 1,000%. | ||
| It's fascinating to watch that people don't realize it and gay people are being used like pawns right now to fight other people's battles. | ||
| Do you see that in a lot of other minority communities in general? | ||
| Because I see a split now in the gay community kind of waking up to this stuff. | ||
| I see it in the black community now. | ||
| I see it in the Jewish community. | ||
| I see it in the Asian community. | ||
| because they really need to get rid of the Asians. | ||
| That's the next one. | ||
| Because Asians work hard or are very successful socioeconomically, but they're a minority. | ||
| We can't have a successful minority. | ||
| So they're coming for the Asians. | ||
| I've started to see it lately and I think that's just gonna be ramped up. | ||
| Yep, absolutely. | ||
| Man, we got our work cut out. | ||
| All right, so let me start. | ||
| So then you put videos on YouTube. | ||
| Your channel has blown up real quick. | ||
| I mean, you've got over 100,000 subscribers in pretty much a matter of no time. | ||
| Suddenly, I always say, I end up with guests because suddenly on Twitter there'll be something kind of bubbling, and I'll be like, I should probably know who that is. | ||
| And you were like, it was suddenly out of nowhere. | ||
| Every day, people were like, you gotta talk to her, you gotta find her. | ||
| Somebody tweeted me this morning, they were like, I was the first one to tell you about her. | ||
| People want credit for it. | ||
| So you put the videos on. | ||
| Were you shocked how quickly they blew up? | ||
| Absolutely shocked. | ||
| And more than just it blowing up here, I was shocked to see that they were dubbing these videos. | ||
| I have a French base. | ||
| People in France are dubbing all of my videos in French so that people can understand them. | ||
| People in Brazil are dubbing them in Portuguese. | ||
| So I was talking about something that I thought was sort of unique to America. | ||
| But I'm realizing that I've hit an international nerve when I talk about the media and how the media affects our psychology. | ||
| So that was something that I wasn't expecting at all, whatsoever. | ||
| So now you've sort of been embraced by the conservative crew, as I said, you were on Waters, you did Daily Wire, you met with the Prager guys, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| So you're doing all that. | ||
| Are you meeting a lot of scary racists? | ||
| No, I haven't. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| These white nationalists are really bad at their job. | ||
| Really bad at it, you know? | ||
| So what would you say to the average person that might say, well, wait a minute, she's diminishing the racism that exists or something like that? | ||
| I hear that a lot. | ||
| They're the ones diminishing the word racist. | ||
| It's a joke now. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| Everything's racist. | ||
| Just because somebody thinks differently than you does not make them a racist, okay? | ||
| And when you continually keep calling people racist, what you're actually doing is diminishing the experiences that real people that lived through eras like that actually had. | ||
| So, and it's upsetting, it really is, because the civil rights era was meaningful. | ||
| Classic liberalism was meaningful. | ||
| You know, these things, we do need, you know, liberalism in that regard, right? | ||
| When something actually happens that you need people to step up to the plate and say, this is wrong. | ||
| We need classic liberalism. | ||
| Yeah, should I do the cell job on classical liberalism to you? | ||
| Or you just skipped over, you went right to conservative, but we could probably work it through. | ||
| Maybe that'll be for next time. | ||
| It's gone, the movement's been hacked, and so many of these movements, they try to dress it up and rebrand it, this is liberalism. | ||
| No it's not, this is fascism. | ||
| You're saying that people have to think a certain way because of the color of their skin, okay? | ||
| That is absolute racism, in my opinion, to say that I can't think anything else than this or that because of the color of my skin. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| That's absolutely absurd. | ||
| You can't think this or that because you're gay. | ||
| You have to always vote this way because you're gay. | ||
| You have to vote this way because you're a woman. | ||
| Hillary ran a campaign on being a woman. | ||
| Did you see the thing with yesterday? | ||
| I think it was Michelle Obama saying it was the women that voted against Hillary voted against their own interests. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Stop. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| It's just they don't stop, though. | ||
| They don't stop. | ||
| I hate feminism, so you can't even get me started on that route. | ||
| And I mean, they don't stop. | ||
| They just keep tripling, tripling down, doubling down, quadrupling down. | ||
| They're just like, we're just going to keep doing the same thing and see if it works. | ||
| It didn't work, OK? | ||
| It's not working. | ||
| People are getting sick of it. | ||
| People are getting pissed off. | ||
| And people are abandoning liberalism. | ||
| So how does this stuff link to the feminism thing? | ||
| Because I know some people will watch that, they'll hear you say, I hate feminism. | ||
| See, she hates women. | ||
| But what is that? | ||
| How is this all linked into feminism? | ||
| Because that's one of the pieces that I think people can't quite figure out. | ||
| How did this thing get so corrupted? | ||
| It's absolutely corrupted. | ||
| That's the right word. | ||
| It's corrupted, it's radicalized. | ||
| Feminism, you know, used to be a classical liberal thing, right? | ||
| It used to be about we actually do not have the right to vote. | ||
| When it was first born in the 19th century, it was actually about women needing the right to vote. | ||
| It was about women's suffrage. | ||
| What don't women have that men have now? | ||
| Can you answer that question for me? | ||
| I was trying to think of something funny here. | ||
| What don't women have that men have? | ||
| Other than like, you know, different body parts. | ||
| What are the opportunities that are going on? | ||
| Even that would be offensive. | ||
| Yeah, I know, right? | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| And so they've radicalized it. | ||
| And again, it's another form of identity politicking. | ||
| You are a woman, so you have to think this way. | ||
| You have to think that way. | ||
| You have to vote for Hillary, who was the worst candidate ever. | ||
| Ever! | ||
| Right? | ||
| There's so many issues that I have with, beyond Hillary, her husband, okay? | ||
| If we want to talk about real issues in the black community, let's talk about the crime bill, you know, that he put in place, and all the black people that he put behind prison, you know, behind prison bars. | ||
| He actually ruined an entire generation of black families, and that's sort of like, which Larry Elder spoke to you about, that's where everything, when our families got deconstructed in the black community, That's when everything went sideways for us, okay? | ||
| And instead we're talking about, you know, BS, stuff that's actually not going on in the black community, like Black Lives Matter. | ||
| And feminism is exactly the same exact thing that's happening. | ||
| They're talking about issues that aren't really happening in the women's community, and they actually don't embrace women, okay, if they think differently. | ||
| Like, God forbid a woman actually aspires to stay at home and raise her children. | ||
| That's not an easy job. | ||
| To raise, you know, three, you know, four children to be good citizens in the world. | ||
| That's something that women should be proud of and embracing, but they want you to say, oh, if that's what you aspire to, then it's because you're a victim. | ||
| You know, your husband made you do this. | ||
| There are people that are happy in those sorts of systems. | ||
| I don't want to be a man also, you know, like this idea that women and men are equal. | ||
| No, we're not. | ||
| Women and men are not equal. | ||
| There are differences. | ||
| We have different hormones going through our body. | ||
| We're different people and that's totally fine. | ||
| You can't have a baby. | ||
| I can have a baby. | ||
| We're not the same. | ||
| And I'm going to hold that against you. | ||
| Right, we're just not the same. | ||
| So it's been increasingly radicalized, and if you weren't done with it by the end of Hillary's campaign, I mean, she really took it to the next level. | ||
| Yeah, but this is what intersectionality is all about. | ||
| We're watching all of these fake, nonsensical things that got everyone ginned up. | ||
| We're just watching them crumble in front of us, which I think is why there's so much craziness right now. | ||
| So how do you approach When I'll talk to Larry Elder or some other conservatives about this, that it's actually the democratic policies that have harmed the black community. | ||
| That seems like one of those topics that the second you even go a little there, you just get an unhinged amount of hate. | ||
| I think the biggest problem that we have in the African-American community is that we're actually not educated about our history whatsoever. | ||
| Black people don't know their own history. | ||
| All they know is that they turn on CNN and CNN tells them to look at this, look at that, to be afraid of this, or to be afraid of that. | ||
| And they don't know these things that Larry Elder talks about, right? | ||
| Which is why, to me, the way that I want to approach it is I plan on getting in the faces of these movements because I think that the indoctrination, the brainwash happens somewhere on college campuses, you know? | ||
| That's where people start to think, I'm a liberal, this is what I should care about, this is what I should not care about. | ||
| And the issue that the conservative community is having right now, in my estimation, is that all of the, you know, major Charlie Kirk, Milo Yiannopoulos, who else is going out and speaking on college campuses right now? | ||
| Shapiro. | ||
| Yeah, Shapiro. | ||
| They go out to these college campuses and Coulter, and they speak to conservatives. | ||
| That's an echo chamber, right? | ||
| I wanna go out and I wanna speak to liberals. | ||
| I wanna go out and I wanna speak to black people. | ||
| Good luck getting invited by liberals. | ||
| I don't get invited by liberals. | ||
| I get invited by libertarians and conservatives. | ||
| They're supposed to be very intolerant, yet they are okay with all of my liberal cred. | ||
| Right. | ||
| but I hope you do. | ||
| Yeah, and that's where I think that I can make the most difference | ||
| is that I really wanna speak to them and just level with them. | ||
| This isn't about name-calling, which tends to only happen, you know, if you're on the right, comes from the left. | ||
| This isn't about name-calling. | ||
| This isn't about trying to, you know, say I'm right and you're wrong, | ||
| or that I'm smart and you're stupid. | ||
| It's really about trying to level with them and get them to understand where their ideas came from. | ||
| Because at a certain point, I was brainwashed too. | ||
| So I understand it, I get it. | ||
| I get what we think. | ||
| It starts beyond that. | ||
| It starts in public school, you know? | ||
| Like, it's just, we're taught to be liberals. | ||
| We really are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's interesting, because I think usually when people have this awakening, | ||
| there's like sort of like a subtlety to it, or like it takes a little time. | ||
| It's very obvious to me, yours was just like, bam. | ||
| Like it just like smacked you in the face, like a truck hit you. | ||
| And then you just ran with it. | ||
| Where I think a lot of people, there's, and maybe this is a function of a little bit, | ||
| I'm gonna use a little identity policy here. | ||
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| and a white guilt. | ||
| The average white person that's waking up to some of this stuff has been so guilted | ||
| for so long to buy it. | ||
| That for you, you're like, it's me and my family. | ||
| And for the white people, there's a guilt. | ||
| Guilt, guilt, guilt. | ||
| White guilt, that's fascinating. | ||
| The people that are still liberals and they refuse to accept that I don't consider myself a victim. | ||
| Like, they need to be the superheroes, you know? | ||
| Like, you are a victim or you're a black white supremacist, which is like, you know, Chelsea Handler recently. | ||
| I mean, that pissed me off to no height. | ||
| The idea that she They're so far gone, leftists, they're so delusional that we've now gotten to a point where Chelsea Handler, a limousine liberal, right? | ||
| A limousine liberal thinks it's acceptable to start revoking black cards. | ||
| You know what, I'll put it out right here. | ||
| Here, I'm gonna talk to the camera for a second. | ||
| I'll put it out right here. | ||
| Chelsea Handler, you are 100% welcome to come on this show. | ||
| You'll debate her? | ||
| Oh, 1000% I'll debate her. | ||
| We'll have to call it a debate. | ||
| Yeah, have a conversation with me. | ||
| Candace will have a conversation with you. | ||
| I would be glad, I would be more than glad to do it. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I will donate all the proceeds. | ||
| What, you got a charity you like? | ||
| Should we let her pick the charity? | ||
| Yeah, a cycling to end father absence. | ||
| It's a father absence charity that I'm very passionate about. | ||
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| We will donate all the proceeds to that if she will do it. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| We'll donate all the proceeds and I'll throw in a thousand bucks over that. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I would love that. | ||
| I would love that. | ||
| Somehow I suspect she's probably not going to bite on this. | ||
| Right, right, because they don't want to. | ||
| But truly a conversation, I really mean that. | ||
| It's not about... Yeah, it's not okay. | ||
| What she did is not okay, and I was so upset about it, because like I said, these are our stories, right? | ||
| Like, I grew up around a dinner table where my grandfather told me what it was like to grow up in a segregated South, okay? | ||
| Where my grandfather told me, you know, what it was like for him when he had to, when he was five years old, get up and... | ||
| 4 a.m. in the morning before it was too hot to lay out tobacco on a sharecropping farm. | ||
| The idea that she thinks that she can look me in the face or look any black person in | ||
| the face without knowing their history, without knowing anything about them and saying, well, | ||
| because you think like a conservative, you're no longer black. | ||
| It's the greatest insult ever. | ||
| I was fuming when I heard that. | ||
| I'm not the biggest Stacey Dash fan, whatever it is, but when I read her article responding to that, I thought that Stacey was too classy. | ||
| I thought it was too high-brow. | ||
| She should have been angry at every black person, whether you are a liberal, whether you are a conservative, whether you're left or you're right, should be outraged that that woman did that. | ||
| Because it's not only offensive to your own existence, but you're right, it's about the history. | ||
| It's also why I see all the time, you can go and if you look, I think there was that, someone did a study that Ben Shapiro gets more anti-Semitic tweets than the top 10 next people combined. | ||
| And I've mentioned this many times, but I grew up around Holocaust survivors. | ||
| I knew people that had the tattoos on their arms. | ||
| So if you say some nonsense to me online, it actually has no meaning because I know my history. | ||
| I know the history Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I know what real pain is, what going through a real genocide is. | ||
| So it's a dismissal of the history. | ||
| Which is a- Imagine if someone said, you're no longer Jewish | ||
| because you know what, you like this. | ||
| Excuse me? | ||
| Excuse me? | ||
| How far gone are Hollywood liberals that they think that that's acceptable? | ||
| Yeah, here we are in LA and I'm talking about this stuff. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Can you move to L.A.? | ||
| I need more allies out here. | ||
| Can we get you to L.A.? | ||
| What are you doing over there? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. | ||
| I love New York, yeah. | ||
| East coast. | ||
| East coast. | ||
| All right, well, we should talk about the NFL taking anything, because obviously that's what everyone's talking about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What are your thoughts? | ||
| It's trending. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| It's uneducated. | ||
| You know, obviously, I would say, you know, no offense, but I don't really care if people take it offensively. | ||
| Athletes aren't the brightest bulbs, right? | ||
| Think about the kids you went to high school with that made it to D1 schools. | ||
| They aren't the brightest bulbs to begin with. | ||
| Half of them don't even know why they're on their knees, okay? | ||
| It's just literally trending and it's upsetting to see another person, people that you should have, have someone from the NFL talk to you about why they're taking a knee. | ||
| Colin Kaepernick is half white. | ||
| He tweets the most ridiculous things, you know? | ||
| He started the trend of, I don't know if you know, Independence Day? | ||
| You know, I'm not celebrating Independence Day because, you know, this country doesn't represent my people's, you know, 50% of him, he means, right? | ||
| Like my people's struggle. | ||
| So he instead spent Independence Day in Africa. | ||
| Do people know their history? | ||
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How did we get to America? | |
| How do we get to America? | ||
| Who sold you to the Americans? | ||
| They always say, we were kings, we were queens. | ||
| No, we weren't. | ||
| We were slaves and peasants over there too. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| People don't know their own history. | ||
| They think that we literally were kings and queens, okay, and white men came over and put us in ships and brought us over. | ||
| That's not the way it worked. | ||
| Is anybody want to live in Africa right now? | ||
| Are you actually upset? | ||
| In the history of every culture, people have been slaves. | ||
| I don't know why people that are African or African descendants, I should say, we're all American, right? | ||
| I don't know why people that are in America feel that they have a right to like some sort of reparation for the fact, you know, the fact that slavery happened. | ||
| It's ridiculous to me. | ||
| And to think that this was all inspired by Colin Kaepernick and people are now being completely disrespectful to the veterans, OK, and the people that are actively in the military. | ||
| Do you know what that flag means to them? | ||
| You know, they're willing to die for it. | ||
| You are a millionaire athlete on your knees, not respecting your country. | ||
| It's anti-American. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| It really is disgusting. | ||
| So all that being said, you are for them being able to express that view, right? | ||
| You're for them, I mean, I don't wanna put words in your mouth, are you not for that? | ||
| For them being on their knees? | ||
| For them being allowed to do it. | ||
| It doesn't mean there's not gonna be consequences. | ||
| Right, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| They should do it and there should be consequences. | ||
| If they wanna do it, they should do it, but this is a job, they get paid, and customers are now leaving, if you will, okay, and this is a capitalist society, fire them. | ||
| Fire them. | ||
| I'm happy Collin didn't get signed. | ||
| Yeah, interesting. | ||
| So my position on this is consistent completely with everything else, which is I believe they can do what they want, the business can do what they want, the government, as long as, Trump, unfortunately, I think in this case, because I think he has exacerbated the situation, can say whatever he wants. | ||
| He can't put a law in place or an executive action, and then you as the fan can decide if you wanna go or not. | ||
| It's actually the beauty of democracy. | ||
| That's the video I did this week. | ||
| We're watching freedom work. | ||
| It's upsetting, you know what I mean? | ||
| There's a lot of inconsistencies in the way everyone behaves, but freedom's actually working right now. | ||
| What other system would this be working as well? | ||
| Absolutely, and I think the implications here is what we're really seeing is a preview to 2020. | ||
| I think that, for some reason, the Democrats' new platform is anti-American. | ||
| It's anti-American, so let's see how it works out for them. | ||
| Mamma mia. | ||
| Are you fully on board the Trump train? | ||
| Um, listen, I like Trump. | ||
| I did not vote for him, which is a common misconception. | ||
| People think I voted for him. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Alice was falling down the rabbit hole at that time and I needed to learn. | ||
| I had to relearn everything. | ||
| It was like having to learn to walk and talk and everything that you thought was, wasn't. | ||
| I like Trump because I like that he's not PC. | ||
| I like that he says what is on his mind. | ||
| I don't feel like I'm being sold something. | ||
| You know, Barack Obama was an amazing speaker. | ||
| He can get in front of a crowd and he can ease them instantly, but at the end of the day he was a puppet who did absolutely nothing for the black community. | ||
| I like Trump because he has financial freedom. | ||
| I like that Trump is not taking money from George Soros, okay? | ||
| And that means that there is a chance that we can, you know, sort of take out this globalist environment that has been created and that is why they attack him so much because they don't own him. | ||
| So that is why I support Donald Trump. | ||
| Yeah, so when you hear him do, you know, when some of the Twitter stuff and all of that other stuff, I mean, my feeling, I don't, you know, everyone's outraged all the time. | ||
| So he tweets something, I know it's stupid or it's dishonest or there was a grammatical error or a typo or whatever. | ||
| And I know everyone goes crazy about all that. | ||
| And I've tried not to care about that stuff too much because I think it's all a distraction. | ||
| The media is outraged. | ||
| They write articles on the outrage before anyone has had a chance to get outraged. | ||
| All of that nonsense. | ||
| But is there any element, like, do you think he's fully telling the truth all the time? | ||
| I mean, this is the one piece of the, look, I have a lot of Trump supporters that watch the show, obviously. | ||
| I think I've been very fair to him. | ||
| People on the left, many hate me because I've been fair to him. | ||
| But do you think there's anything to the element of just like, just the way this is all going down is not good. | ||
| I think the liars are the media. | ||
| I mean, I don't know if everything he says is the truth. | ||
| I'm pretty confident that he would know better than to lie when everybody's waiting for him to lie. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
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| He couldn't have more hitmen waiting to take him down. | ||
| It'd be a really bad time to tell a lie that, you know, is researchable. | ||
| Well, he's really good about saying something that's not quite true and then everyone goes crazy and then there's a grain of truth in it so that everyone's like, ah, see, it was kind of true. | ||
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| And I love that he tweets, because you have to understand that's the only way that he can get the truth out. | ||
| And that's true. | ||
| No matter what he says, they spin it. | ||
| No matter how he says it, they spin it. | ||
| We saw that with the Charlottesville thing. | ||
| What he said was factually accurate, but they spun it to this, like, he's supporting the KKK, you know? | ||
| So it is very important that he gets behind and he tweets, because it's how he won the election. | ||
| If it ain't broken, if it ain't That's the expression. | ||
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| If it ain't broken, don't fix it, yeah. | ||
| So I think he's doing the right thing, and I think he understands how he got into the White House, and he knows that no matter what he does or doesn't do, the media's gonna write a hit piece anyway, so go crazy. | ||
| What do you think about just the general state of things right now? | ||
| I sense sort of like an interesting optimism in you, and yet all hell seems to be breaking loose. | ||
| And I'm kind of, I vacillate. | ||
| Like, some days I wake up, I'm like, man, we're really, like, sort of seemingly at the end of, like, some amazing experiment. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then on the other hand, I think there's all these cool people like you every day that are getting empowered. | ||
| So, like, maybe there is some great chance here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that there is a tremendous opportunity here. | ||
| The media is dying. | ||
| The media is dying a slow and painful death. | ||
| No one cares what they say anymore. | ||
| They can keep pretending and talking to themselves and laughing at themselves. | ||
| Hollywood is losing power. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| I don't know if you noticed, but we used to put CNN on in the green room. | ||
| We now put Cartoon Network. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Politically, it makes a lot more sense. | ||
| Yeah, it makes more sense. | ||
| Like South Park or something, right? | ||
| Nobody trusts the media anymore, and so we're just kind of seeing what I perceive as a mental spiral. | ||
| Half of what they're saying on air should be kept between them and their therapist. | ||
| Should I be privy to this? | ||
| They're spiraling because they are aware, deep down, that they've lost control. | ||
| People don't care what they think anymore. | ||
| Their opinion's not valued. | ||
| People would rather watch a girl on YouTube who flips open her laptop to talk about politics than pay attention to an anchor that's paid by CNN. | ||
| What do you think about that kind of power? | ||
| I think it's amazing. | ||
| It means that people are hungry for truth. | ||
| And it means that people are waking up. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| We are in an era that is just absolutely fascinating, and I'm just so happy that I get to be a part of it. | ||
| Yeah, that's so cool. | ||
| Red pill. | ||
| I just want to talk about the phrase, red pill, because I think it means different things to different people. | ||
| Why did you choose that? | ||
| Well, the Matrix. | ||
| So it was purely off the Matrix? | ||
| Purely off the Matrix. | ||
| I don't know what else it could mean. | ||
| I know that the left tried to take it and say that it was like a... | ||
| Yeah, that it somehow means I'm white supremacist. | ||
| Yeah, they're just lying. | ||
| Another hit piece. | ||
| Another day, another hit piece. | ||
| Red Pill is in the true essence of The Matrix, which is that once you start realizing how things actually work, then you are a red-pilled individual. | ||
| And my goal is to wake up people in the black community because we are the ones that are being used the most by Democrats and like you said they have built the systems that keep us down and yet we keep supporting them. | ||
| Yeah, all right, so here's what we're gonna do. | ||
| We're gonna do about 10 more minutes, just the two of us. | ||
| We're gonna take like a 30-second break, and then you'll take questions from the good people out there, right? | ||
| Absolutely, of course. | ||
| With no rules? | ||
| No rules. | ||
| No rules. | ||
| Live, unedited. | ||
| All right, so about 10 more minutes. | ||
| So, all right, so is anyone on the right these days doing right by the black community, do you think? | ||
| If it is the democratic policies and identity politics that's harming the black community, is anyone on the right addressing it properly? | ||
| Uh, yeah, they're all called Coons. | ||
| You had Larry Elder here, yeah. | ||
| I mean, there are people that are trying to educate them, they're trying to help the black community, and they're being, you know, unfairly labeled and scrutinized by the media. | ||
| So, um, there are a ton of people out there that are trying to do the right thing, and a lot of white people, but unfortunately the second, you know, a white person tells black people what's actually happening, they get labeled a white nationalist. | ||
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| And the people won't, black people are racist in a way that they actually won't listen to what you have to say if you're, if you're white. | ||
| They just assume that they have the upper hand in the conversation, because that's what the left has taught them, and it's all white privilege, and he doesn't know what he means, he doesn't know what he's saying. | ||
| So dismiss him, he's a white supremacist. | ||
| Are you shocked how quickly the white supremacist meme got out there? | ||
| It actually does show success, I think, in sort of what I've been fighting against for these last couple of years, because I kept mocking the words bigot and racist, because this is nonsense, what you guys are doing. | ||
| So I almost feel like they've thrown those words out. | ||
| You don't hear anyone's called a bigot anymore. | ||
| You barely hear they're called a racist. | ||
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| Everyone's a white supremacist. | ||
| everyone's a white supremacist. | ||
| So we've like, actually, it does show that in a way, we've like shifted this thing where what's next? | ||
| I mean, what's, yeah. | ||
| I don't know what could possibly be next. | ||
| I really don't know. | ||
| You know, they're sucking the fun out of everything. | ||
| Like I said in that. | ||
| You know. | ||
| Comedy's dying off. | ||
| To go back to the NFL thing, it's just like, geez, | ||
| the left, I don't know if they sit around a table and come up with, what else can we take the fun out of? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, what else can we take the fun out of? | ||
| That's what it feels like, right? | ||
| Like, you don't want to watch football. | ||
| You don't want to watch award shows anymore. | ||
| Everything is about politics. | ||
| Everyone wants to be a hero and say something for five seconds of an applause in their own echo chamber. | ||
| Man, you're so right. | ||
| You know, even the Emmys last week. | ||
| Every other year in the last five or seven years, probably, I've live-tweeted them. | ||
| Who cares if you're live-tweeting Emmys? | ||
| This year, I was just like, I just don't want to deal with politics on a Sunday night. | ||
| It's unbearable. | ||
| And I didn't watch any football. | ||
| I'm not even the biggest football fan, but on a normal Sunday, I'll just flick around a couple games. | ||
| People weren't watching it. | ||
| They're sucking the fun out of everything with all of this virtue signaling. | ||
| I don't know what's next. | ||
| Disneyland? | ||
| Mickey's going to be kneeling down or something. | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| The toddlers are going to be crying. | ||
| What do you think that's about, that sort of sucking of fun? | ||
| Because I do think there's a reason the fun sucks. | ||
| I think there is a reason. | ||
| If they can keep you miserable all the time and keep you guilty all the time, you're very easily manipulated. | ||
| Manipulated, yeah. | ||
| It's brainwash. | ||
| It's a system of mass brainwash, obviously. | ||
| But it's not working in that I am, I don't know if I'm overly optimistic, but I'm extremely optimistic because you and I are sitting here having this conversation because I was just at the Daily Wire earlier today and their studio, their office space, Yeah, go the wrong way, guys. | ||
| fast and because the conservative movement is growing because people are | ||
| realizing that there's nothing left for them on the left. You either want to race towards the bottom, | ||
| because that's what it is, right? | ||
| It's I'm a bigger victim, I'm a bigger victim, I'm a bigger victim, I'm a bigger victim. | ||
| I'm like, what are we... | ||
| You guys are racing. Yeah, go the wrong way, guys. | ||
| Let's do this, you know what I mean? And people get sick of it. It's a | ||
| constant state of misery. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yet it works to a certain crew. | ||
| Do you think this is all about education period? | ||
| Like at the end, I've started to really come around to that. | ||
| It's sort of cliche sometimes when you're like, oh, education's the answer to everything. | ||
| But like the basic, even just in the last couple of weeks, I got into something with an old friend of mine who I've recently reconnected with and was saying all this sort of, not outright calling me a racist or a bigot, but it was all like right there. | ||
| And I really just wanted to be like, you don't know anything about political philosophy or what the foundations of a government are, right? | ||
| And I've gotten pretty good at just getting rid of these conversations and making sure it doesn't escalate, so I kinda let it go. | ||
| But that's what I left with. | ||
| If you don't understand what rights are, what the purpose of a society is, owning your own mental capacity and all that stuff, you're gonna fall for any of this stuff. | ||
| Well, listen, let's call it what it is. | ||
| The majority of people from an IQ standpoint are stupid. | ||
| That's the quote from this. | ||
| No, it's true. | ||
| I mean, factually speaking, 80% of people, I don't know what the IQ range is, but they're actually not that intelligent, right? | ||
| So that has been kind of the leftists like, okay, well, let's just feed them stuff. | ||
| They're not smart enough to think through it and they'll fall for it. | ||
| And so it's very easy to manipulate them and they're just being brainwashed. | ||
| Man, I feel like we should jump into the questions. | ||
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Let's do it. | |
| Because I feel like people are going to have a gajillion questions for you. | ||
| Did I miss anything here? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I feel like we did it, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, alright. | ||
| So here's what we're going to do. | ||
| Give me, I said 30 seconds, right? | ||
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30 seconds. | |
| One minute? | ||
| You want one minute? | ||
| One minute. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| One minute, people! | ||
| 60 seconds! | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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| ♪♪ All right, guys, we're back. | ||
| We are live on YouTube and Facebook. | ||
| I am here with Candace, a.k.a. | ||
| Red Pill Black. | ||
| People seem to like you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| They dig what you're doing. | ||
| All right, so here's what we're gonna do. | ||
| We're gonna take questions on Patreon. | ||
| So if you are a Patreon member, you can just comment in the video box right there. | ||
| So we've got a bunch of questions there. | ||
| We're also gonna do the Super Chat thing on YouTube. | ||
| So depending on how much you give, it bumps your question up and has a better chance that I will see it here. | ||
| We're getting all this live. | ||
| Candace said to me right during the break, there are no rules. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| We'll start with Super Chat. | ||
| Using the current trending, hashtag take any controversy, do you feel the media's focus on the problems in the black community is helpful or just exploitation for their own agenda and doing more harm in the long run? | ||
| The media is not focused on issues in the black community at all. | ||
| The issues in the black community are not the national anthem. | ||
| So, you know, trick question. | ||
| So what would you say the issues are? | ||
| We have to talk about prison reform. | ||
| We have to talk about education. | ||
| We have to talk about fathers, you know, getting black families back together. | ||
| How much of this do you think is about the family thing? | ||
| Because I see conservatives talk about it a lot. | ||
| And years ago, if you would have asked me, I would have been like, ah, this is eye-off-the-ball stuff. | ||
| And now I do see it differently. | ||
| It's so much. | ||
| I mean, you have no idea what it means not to come up with a father figure. | ||
| In these black communities, people are raising themselves. | ||
| Kids are raising kids. | ||
| So there are a lot of things written into that. | ||
| I'm passionate. | ||
| I'm literally doing a charity event on Sunday for father absence. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| What sympathies do you have with the blue pills in their positions? | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| Yeah, I love that question. | ||
| I have a lot of sympathy because I was one of them. | ||
| You know, I understand how easy it is to get brainwashed because it's written into our DNA from the time we're in like kindergarten, okay, until you finish college. | ||
| So I know that they're not being willfully ignorant. | ||
| They just don't know any other way and I'm hoping that I'll be able to guide them. | ||
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| Are there any leftist things that you have sympathy for or think they might be doing better than the conservatives or anything? | ||
| Right now? | ||
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| Nothing. | ||
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All right. | |
| Don't be sorry to me. | ||
| Just wanted to know what you think is the truth. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I would love to see a brief exploration of whether classical liberalism would naturally be the path of black Americans if the Democratic Party had not co-opted the process of freeing us all from bigotry in America? | ||
| It's a great question because I think that most minority communities in general would completely identify with true classical liberalism. | ||
| Of course they would, they did. | ||
| You know, of course. | ||
| But it's just, it's not here. | ||
| Thoughts on the surveillance state? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| You know, the NSA and spying. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I 1000, do I think it, what thoughts in what terms? | ||
| Do I think it's actually happening? | ||
| Well, however you wanna go. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, do you think it's necessary or? | ||
| I definitely, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You're allowed to take an I don't know here. | ||
| I'm not scoring you. | ||
| I don't want to say something without being completely educated on the topics. | ||
| Some of these things, people always say, is it a necessary evil? | ||
| And I don't really know. | ||
| It's funny how everyone's going to suddenly want you to know everything about everything. | ||
| You're like, I created a YouTube channel that grew pretty quick, now I have to know everything. | ||
| Yeah, I don't really know. | ||
| I don't have thoughts on that right now. | ||
| Yeah, wasn't social autopsy really shut down because trolls from 4chan and Kiwi farms | ||
| exposed security flaws and showed it's a doxer's dream? | ||
| So some of that's going a little over my head. | ||
| I can answer the question, yes, but you have to remember that Zoe, she was running that. | ||
| She told me that she was on 4chan and all of this stuff. | ||
| So they were the ones that were inundating Kickstarter and calling them. | ||
| Kickstarter never gave me an explanation for it. | ||
| They just said that it was pulled because it went against their policies, but they never, you know, | ||
| indicated which policy it was. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, your story, I almost think, not that I like to bring the law into a lot of these things, | ||
| but really in a way she was extorting you, is what she was doing. | ||
| You had a subtle conversation where she said, if you don't do this... It's sort of what CNN did with that meme maker, remember? | ||
| If you do this thing again, we're gonna release your information. | ||
| And she really did the same thing. | ||
| Kind of shows you how... But she did it behind anonymous trolls, so it's ever, you know... | ||
| Just the worst, okay. | ||
| All right, this is a kind of long one, so bear with me. | ||
| This is from Patreon. | ||
| I have trouble reconciling a lot of Trump's policies as outright racist or outright discriminatory, and the reaction from the fringe left activists has been enlightening, to say the least, about how fractured the party is. | ||
| Is the net effect of this socio-political debacle a reformed, more rational, accountable left or the formation of an independent party that manages to actually satisfy the needs of both sides of the aisle? | ||
| I'm thinking Bernie and Johnson supporters. | ||
| So I think basically what they're saying is, is there any chance that the moderates that are left on the left, whoever they are, Can they fix this or is it just too late? | ||
| It's too late. | ||
| I think any moderate that's on the left is going to end up going to the right. | ||
| It's unfixable. | ||
| Yeah, I tried. | ||
| I tried, I did what I could. | ||
| Do you believe the war on drugs disproportionately affects the black community? | ||
| Yes, I do believe the war on drugs disproportionately affects the black community. | ||
| Yeah, so that might be somewhere where you'd have sympathies with a leftist position. | ||
| Because the left is more focused on reforming prisons, maybe not doing it in the right way, but they are more focused than the right. | ||
| And I take a lot of issue with the war on drugs period. | ||
| You know, I just think that it's an illness and we're not addressing it the right way. | ||
| Putting people in prison that are addicted to drugs is just, you know, it's beyond me when people, you know, they're not themselves. | ||
| And yeah, I have a lot of thoughts on that, but I agree. | ||
| Yeah, it's just so crazy to me. | ||
| And obviously we're here in California where it's medicinally legal, and I guess as of next calendar year, it'll be recreational legal, but that I used to, in New York, I'd get weed and that could be a crime, where here I can literally walk two blocks away when we walk out of here and I can get a joint. | ||
| At a store. | ||
| Yeah, it's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty nuts. | ||
| Okay, Super Chat. | ||
| So much of the black brainwashing takes place in black churches. | ||
| Once that's baked in from childhood, can the liberal stranglehold on the black mind be broken and messed? | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Do you think that there's a connection to like a politicization of churches? | ||
| I really don't know. | ||
| Not religious at all, so it's hard for me. | ||
| I always try to pull from my personal experiences when I consider these questions, but I really don't know. | ||
| I don't go to church, so. | ||
| Okay, Super Chat, school choice, abolishing the minimum wage, and deregulating venture enterprise would do more for the black community than any welfare program. | ||
| The black community has become subject to the state. | ||
| I mean, this is the Larry Elder stuff that you're talking about. | ||
| Absolutely, I agree. | ||
| So how do you do that, though? | ||
| I know you're not a policy expert specifically, So if you've had a group of people, forgetting color, but you've had any group of people on welfare for so long, how do you just flip the switch? | ||
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You do it. | |
| You just do it. | ||
| You just do it. | ||
| Put their backs against a wall and watch people fight. | ||
| People are not going to say, oh well it's gone, I guess I'm never going to eat ever again. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| People, this is the problem is that they become reliant on it because it's there. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| If it's not there, they will come up with other solutions. | ||
| That's called being a human being. | ||
| We are naturally survivors. | ||
| Well said. | ||
| All right, let's jump over to Facebook. | ||
| Let us know how to support her. | ||
| So they want to know how to support you. | ||
| We'll get to that. | ||
| And I want to see you stick around and continue to do your work. | ||
| Great interview. | ||
| How can people support you? | ||
| I'm on Patreon. | ||
| So if I can siphon money from you on Patreon. | ||
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If you're donating, I'm just kidding. | |
| Patreon.com, red pill black. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What do you think about millions of young Americans on psychiatric drugs is the reason that so many are brainwashed? | ||
| Again, I know you're not an expert in some of this stuff. | ||
| I'm sorry, can you repeat that? | ||
| That so many young Americans are on psychiatric drugs. | ||
| Don't even know. | ||
| I have, I am passionately against psychiatric drugs. | ||
| Passionately. | ||
| I mean, if people are, and when I say that, I mean that We are just over-prescribed. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| Your kid can't focus, so he's got ADD, so you give him a pill. | ||
| Maybe he's not interested in reading a math book. | ||
| You know, he'd rather be outside playing. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, that's not like a focus. | ||
| You're focused on what you care about. | ||
| You know, if you're interested in something, you're going to be focused on it naturally. | ||
| So a lot of that stuff, it scares me, yeah, that the age is just going down and down and down in terms of what they're willing to give children. | ||
| I mean, that is like a scary and a whole other topic. | ||
| You know, Xanax to combat sadness, which is like a natural state of being a human being. | ||
| You know, you're sad sometimes, you're happy sometimes. | ||
| And you know, my friend put it to me really well in college. | ||
| She said, if you can answer the question as to why you're sad, you don't need a pill. | ||
| If me and you were sitting here right now and I just break down crying for no reason, something might be a little wrong. | ||
| There might be something going on there that I need to consult a psychiatrist about. | ||
| If I'm crying hysterically and under my covers because my mom died, I don't need a Xanax pill. | ||
| I have to deal with being a human being. | ||
| You know how that stuff, it's so obvious to me how it affects the brain. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying there aren't legit reasons to be on some of that stuff, for sure, and a certain amount of people need a certain amount of help, but there was about a six-month period when I was on one of those, I don't even remember what it was called, like Celexa or something, I don't know, about six months, and a friend of mine died, a very good friend of mine from childhood, and I was with my whole family. | ||
| We all were very, very close with him, and everyone else was hysterical crying, and I felt nothing. | ||
| Yes, that's exactly what it does to people. | ||
| It doesn't make you feel happy, it doesn't make you feel sad, it just makes you exist. | ||
| And that's terrifying. | ||
| And then I literally, so you know, they tell you when you get off these things you should, the way you're supposed to do it is you'd wean yourself off, like maybe every other day, then every other third day or whatever it is. | ||
| I just went off, I just didn't know that, and I was just like, I'm not taking this anymore, I'm not even telling the doctor, blah blah blah. | ||
| My brain, about two weeks later, I could, you know when you used to turn on an old computer and you'd hear like whirring and buzzing and like, I literally was hearing that in my brain. | ||
| My brain was like restarting, crazy. | ||
| Yeah, it's terrifying. | ||
| Yeah, pharmaceutical, that's a huge issue and a platform that people should be talking about. | ||
| A whole other thing. | ||
| Superjet, how would you reform the prisons? | ||
| How would I reform that? | ||
| I'm not the President of the United States. | ||
| I'm open to having a discussion and seeing what somebody would present as a means to reform the prison system. | ||
| First off, stop arresting people for things they don't need to be in prison for. | ||
| We don't need somebody to be in prison because it's a three-strikes-you're-out policy over smoking a joint or anything like that. | ||
| So a lot of that starts with just actually looking at the reasons people actually go to prison, I think, would be a launchpad. | ||
| But there's a lot going on there. | ||
| You'd have to really speak to people in prison and understand it better, and I'm not there just yet. | ||
| Yeah, I have a feeling you're gonna be involved in all of these conversations. | ||
| Yeah, I would love to. | ||
| So it's good that they're- Yeah, you know, all of my uncles are in prison, locked up. | ||
| You know, visited my uncle in prison growing up. | ||
| It's, you know, so that's a big part of being black in America. | ||
| I'm sure Chelsea will say, you know, it doesn't matter. | ||
| You can get that taken away. | ||
| Don't upset me. | ||
| All right, super chat. | ||
| Candace, I know you're from Dallas. | ||
| I grew up there and later Austin. | ||
| I have lived in San Francisco for the last 12 years. | ||
| Your opinions of Dallas and that of the Bay Area, if you've ever visited. | ||
| I'm not from Dallas, so. | ||
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| I think you were just saying you were just up in San Francisco. | ||
| That is the leftist bubble of lunacy. | ||
| I had a red pill. | ||
| Well, I think you were just saying you were just up in San Francisco. | ||
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| How was it up there for you? | ||
| I sat under an empathy tent. | ||
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| It was in the middle of the square, like their main square. | ||
| I can't think of what the name of it is. | ||
| There was an empathy tent. | ||
| And what's going on in there? | ||
| Oh, you know, I went right in there. | ||
| I was like, hey, what's going on in here? | ||
| You know, can I sit? | ||
| They're like, yeah, we just talk about our feelings. | ||
| I'm like, are facts allowed? | ||
| They were like, OK, get the hell out of here. | ||
| Let's get her out of here. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| I mean, do they have puppies that you're rolling? | ||
| Yeah, it was like I'm like, really, we've got a problem. | ||
| You know, we're starting to it's the college campus thing is getting a little bizarre. | ||
| And these are adults. | ||
| These are grown men. | ||
| I mean, these are like, you know, older than you. | ||
| Like I mean, this was there were like grown men sitting under there saying, I was like, well, why did you guys launch this? | ||
| You know, they're like, you know, Barack Obama gave a speech saying that, you know, we need more empathy. | ||
| So we made a tent. | ||
| I'm like, all right. | ||
| I like how you just went ages there. | ||
| Older than you, you old bastard. | ||
| She was pointing to the gray in my beard. | ||
| Do you think that police action like stop and search where black people are more frequently checked is racist or logical based on statistics of crime? | ||
| For example, in the UK, black men are more likely to carry knives, but stop and search was canceled as it predominantly targeted black youths. | ||
| So it's a good question because this is one of the ones where they see that It generally does work in lowering crime and yet there could be a racial element to it. | ||
| And some people would argue that overtly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't think that it was intended to be racist. | ||
| And as you saw, like you said, there were positive effects to it because it is real. | ||
| But just imagine the other side of that, which is being a black person and getting stopped for no reason other than the fact that you're black. | ||
| Like, that's not cool. | ||
| You can't just walk down the street and be like, well, you know, in this area, black people normally do this. | ||
| And because you're black, we're going to stop you. | ||
| So I can see it's violating. | ||
| It doesn't feel good to just be, you know, Could be you because you're black. | ||
| Yes, it is true what he's talking about from a statistical standpoint black people do commit, you know These crimes and that's something that can't be ignored But I'm not sure that like creating, you know, a policy of profiling based off of that really works. | ||
| Yeah Yeah, cuz like I would be really upset if I just got like stopped because I was black, you know Are you kidding me? | ||
| I mean a year ago when I lived in West Hollywood, which is pretty Right. | ||
| area, pretty uppity or whatever. | ||
| I was literally pulled over while looking for parking outside of my house. | ||
| I was just trying to park and whatever, and I got out. | ||
| It turned out that it was obviously the officer was training a younger guy | ||
| and was just trying to like show him the ropes a little bit. | ||
| And he asked me how much I had drank. | ||
| I literally did have one glass of wine at a friend's before. | ||
| He had me blow the breathalyzer. | ||
| You know, I had to follow a light, look in all this, stand on one foot. | ||
| And I was nervous, even though I knew I wasn't drunk. | ||
| I wasn't doing anything illegal. | ||
| I was right in front of my house. | ||
| But I was nervous. | ||
| But I did think in that moment, because I haven't been pulled over by a cop besides that. | ||
| And I did think in that moment how quickly these things could escalate. | ||
| Right, yeah, to Slippery Slope. | ||
| To Slippery Slope. | ||
| I mean, imagine if we're like, hey, you know what, it turns out that the majority of people that have DUIs are white males, so we're just gonna be stopping white males. | ||
| You're a white male, so you get stopped. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| Yeah, and also, I'm a little dyslexic, and when he had me do the, he wanted me to follow a light but not move my head, so I could just move my eyes like this, but my head just kinda kept moving. | ||
| It's like a little bit of like, I can't jump rope. | ||
| It's a weird thing that I have. | ||
| And just, I could see how, If I was a little more hostile, if he was actually racist. | ||
| You're instantly going to be hostile if you're getting stopped for doing nothing. | ||
| Alright, super chat! | ||
| Dear Candice, will you be in Europe and if so, will you go to lunch with me? | ||
| Sure, I love lunch, I love food, and I love Europe. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| What do you think, this is super chat again, what do you think of Planned Parenthood killing black unborn babies and limiting the black population and why do black conservatives look hot? | ||
| How about we'll deal with the second part first. | ||
| Let's do the second part first. | ||
| Why are black conservatives hot? | ||
| Black conservatives are hot because conservative women tend to not prescribe to feminism. | ||
| And feminism teaches you that if you're fat, it's their fault, not yours. | ||
| You shouldn't have to try to look nice ever. | ||
| Just be a fat slob and it's everybody else's fault, not yours. | ||
| The world's broken, not you, girl. | ||
| Ironically, that was the least controversial part of the question here. | ||
| What was the first part about Planned Parenthood? | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Planned Parenthood. | ||
| That's why I said I definitely am trying to really form my opinions on abortion. | ||
| But I hate Planned Parenthood. | ||
| And it's 1,000th of a century. | ||
| Even the locations are in these poor communities. | ||
| And it was literally built for the purpose. | ||
| And it served its purpose, you know. | ||
| It has decreased the black population by a lot. | ||
| So where are you at on abortion in general? | ||
| I know you're... | ||
| I'm gonna wait before I'm ready to talk about where I stand on that, because I don't wanna back myself into a corner and not be able to backpedal while I'm still, you know. | ||
| But I have a lot of conversations with people, and I am careful not to take a position, but when I do, it'll be a firm one. | ||
| Yeah, it's one of those ones where I think you can have a totally principled position from both sides. | ||
| So I happen to be pro-choice. | ||
| I've heard Ben Shapiro's arguments on pro-life, sitting in that very chair, and I think they're perfectly principled, and that's what being an American's all about. | ||
| We're gonna disagree on these things, I mean I just, I think it was like marketing even, like I think abortion is really just about population control, you know? | ||
| So I don't really buy into this whole, it's about pro-choice. | ||
| It's just what they've convinced you. | ||
| It's about pro-choice. | ||
| That's some serious red pill right there. | ||
| She's snorting the red pill now. | ||
| Guys, reminder, what are we doing here? | ||
| We're taking questions with Candace on Patreon. | ||
| It's all loaded right in the chat right there. | ||
| And on Super Chat, we'll take a couple on Facebook as well. | ||
| Let's roll. | ||
| Well, a few people have asked something to this effect. | ||
| Black-on-black crime. | ||
| How do you address it? | ||
| I mean, first off, address it, right? | ||
| Get off your knees in a football field talking about the National Anthem and let's talk about the South Side of Chicago, you know? | ||
| Let's draw attention to real black issues. | ||
| Let's stop pretending it's the police and this don't shoot movement when, like, no black people die at the hands of police, statistically speaking, every year and we're slaughtering ourselves, you know? | ||
| It's insane, it's absolutely insane. | ||
| And I think the first part is actually addressing it. | ||
| About people stop pretending that the biggest threat to the black community are the KKK in Charlottesville or white police officers shooting black people. | ||
| We have to actually talk about the issues first before we can come up with solutions. | ||
| Is the inherent problem though that the cries of racism and bigotry and all that have just effectively silenced the people that should be allies to this? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like some people that are just like, I don't even want to deal with this. | ||
| So I'm just not gonna say anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You gotta work on those people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Get cracking! | ||
| What are you doing here with me? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Get moving! | ||
| How did Candace see the light slash what opened her eyes to the truth? | ||
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We talked about it. | |
| You already addressed that, so we'll let that one go. | ||
| Patreon, are you equally as scared of the language morphing process we have to dance around concerning groups like Antifa? | ||
| I have friends who believe they're actually anti-fascists despite their actions directly conflicting with the concept of fascism. | ||
| Many of my friends buy into the rhetoric and buzzwords used to prescribe their political enemies. | ||
| Words like feminism, equality, racism, and privilege seem to have been toxically infected with the definitions that make conversations about these issues even more touchy. | ||
| This whole question has sort of been a through line to everything. | ||
| But what do you think about that? | ||
| Just the words, the way we're using words backwards these days. | ||
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Sloppy. | |
| It's sloppy. | ||
| They don't even realize it's counter, in most situations which he mentioned, it's counterintuitive to everything that the movement once represented, right? | ||
| Classic liberal versus liberalism, classic feminism versus what feminism is today. | ||
| These movements have been hijacked and people don't realize it because they really don't even know how these movements started. | ||
| They don't really know history at all, you know? | ||
| They just think they're doing something. | ||
| It feels good because CNN tells them they're doing the right thing, you know? | ||
| which is amazing to see. | ||
| Trevor Noah, be outraged, be outraged. | ||
| No one sees Trevor Noah and the audience at Black Lives Matter protests. | ||
| No, he's walking around New York, swanky penthouse. | ||
| He's a puppet, another puppet. | ||
| He's doing okay. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Well, that's the thing. | ||
| For me, I just hate how it's killed comedy. | ||
| I just hate how these people are just screaming all day long and they don't care about evidence. | ||
| I saw all of these people last week with Betsy DeVos flipping the Title IX thing. | ||
| And all these comedians screaming about how Trump's pro-rape, and they're all pro-rape. | ||
| And it's like, actually, Title IX, the way it was being instituted was actually harming young men who were completely innocent and was creating a way around due process and against the gods. | ||
| You can't get through. | ||
| Like I said, they're just not educated. | ||
| And like you said, it's killed comedy. | ||
| Nothing's funny anymore. | ||
| I don't know how many times they can say the same joke before they realize that only they and their friends are laughing. | ||
| And yeah. | ||
| Man, they're gonna kill comedy, kill sports, and then everyone will be tuning in to you on YouTube. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| It'll work itself out. | ||
| You have a favorite book? | ||
| I mean, I read a lot. | ||
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I don't know if I have a favorite book. | |
| Nothing favorite? | ||
| All right, I'll take it. | ||
| You did sort of answer this one, but maybe you can go on it a little bit more. | ||
| Do you think there is a bigotry of low expectations? | ||
| Of course there's a bigotry of low expectations. | ||
| They've somehow convinced the African-American community, black community, whatever you want to call it, to argue, you know, to say that they need help. | ||
| We need help. No, no, no, don't take that away. We can't do it by ourselves. | ||
| There's no way we can do it by ourselves. You take that away, we'll have nothing. | ||
| That's so sad. It's sad to me that they don't think that they can make it on their own, you know. | ||
| And that is the bigotry of low expectations. | ||
| And again, all we have to do is inject a little bit of education, because when you actually sit down and teach them, most people that are on Section 8 have bigger fish to fry than, you know, like they actually don't even know what they're accepting when they take it. | ||
| They just know that they're pregnant, they're going to have a baby, and they have mouths to feed, right? | ||
| And this person's going to give them a check. | ||
| That's the extent of their knowledge in terms of what they're accepting. | ||
| And people need to actually explain to them. | ||
| There's no one explaining to them what Section 8 is. | ||
| Is that Section 8? | ||
| Do you understand the implications here? | ||
| It's not something you want to be on. | ||
| It's something that is going to be generational because it encourages you not to get married, encourages you to have more children, you know, and you can never have more, you know, it's just, you're just always under. | ||
| So, again, it starts and ends with education. | ||
| Why does it feel like the race discussion are boiled down to white versus black while Hispanics are only mentioned when it comes to immigration? | ||
| And Asians are out of the conversation entirely by the left. | ||
| That is a great question. | ||
| Am I the only person that knows mixed kids? | ||
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These poor people are probably like, what the hell am I gonna do? | |
| I'm half white, half black, I'm half Spanish. | ||
| Am I the only person? | ||
| Again, is Candace Owens in a bubble? | ||
| Am I the only person that has tons of friends that are mixed? | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| They literally have boiled it down to there's only white or black pick one. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's delusional. | ||
| Do you buy what I was saying earlier about the Asian community, that that's the next one for them to turn on? | ||
| It has to be. | ||
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It just has to be. | |
| It has to be, you're right. | ||
| They go after it. | ||
| They're doing too well. | ||
| Yeah, they're doing too well, so you have to take them down. | ||
| And the more of this fake diversity stuff that you force through, who's it gonna hurt? | ||
| It's actually gonna hurt the Asians. | ||
| The Asians that are working hard, that deserve the same equality that everybody else deserves. | ||
| What do you think of affirmative action? | ||
| I think I know your answer already, but is there any merit to any of it at any level? | ||
| No, no, get rid of it. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| I think that there are things that, if we're talking about just letting someone into a school because they're black affirmative action, you know, there are definitely things that I think would be great in terms of establishing more scholarships for black people. | ||
| or encourage them. Again, a lot of the stuff starts at home. | ||
| These kids go to school in high school tired because they're raising | ||
| their baby sister when their mom's trying to work at night. | ||
| That's really what goes on in black communities. | ||
| Affirmative action, it's an insult. It's an insult. I can't get in based on my own merit. | ||
| We have all the resources to get in based off of our own merit. We don't need help. | ||
| And also, by the way, it's counterintuitive to capitalism affirmative action. | ||
| It doesn't even make sense. | ||
| Like, imagine if, like, we just started hiring people based off of, like, political correctness, like, we're only three black guys, you know, he's not the smartest guy here over at Goldman Sachs, but, you know what I mean? | ||
| There's a global market happening. | ||
| We hire the best. | ||
| We want the best, the best, the best, the best, the best. | ||
| Well I always think of it in terms of like, think about it just in terms of a doctor or an airline pilot. | ||
| Don't think about it just in terms of the ditch digger, although perfectly nice guy too, but your doctor at the end of the day, forgetting race, do you want your doctor to be the best educated and most equipped to deal with the surgery you're going to deal with, or do you want somebody that's skated by? | ||
| Perfect analogy. | ||
| It's a perfect analogy. | ||
| I know you admire Kanye West. | ||
| Do you think that Kanye will be speaking out for the truth anytime soon, or has he been threatened into submission? | ||
| Before you answer that question, I will tell you, although I can't tell everyone where we are right now, I do see Kanye often somewhere very near where we are right now. | ||
| That's all I can say, so maybe I can work a little something there. | ||
| Oh my gosh, I am only a fan. | ||
| People ask me, who are you a fan of? | ||
| I'm only a fan of Kanye West, and the interesting thing is, popular Kanye quote is that if you're a fan of Kanye West | ||
| you're not really a fan of Kanye West you're a fan of yourself and | ||
| You believe that you you can make it and his whole brand Yeah, his whole brand and most people who don't like Kanye | ||
| West don't follow his music So he doesn't make me think he's an asshole and he's an | ||
| arrogant asshole And what he actually is preaching is holding on to your own | ||
| ideas holding on to you the version that you are the version that | ||
| You were when you came into this world before, you know school sort of stripped you down and made you think that | ||
| you couldn't do it What we're talking about, right? | ||
| Low expectations for everyone. | ||
| Black, white, Spanish. | ||
| That's what you learn in school. | ||
| You gotta go work for somebody. | ||
| You gotta do this in the SATs. | ||
| You gotta be interested in math, science. | ||
| Maybe you're not good at that. | ||
| Maybe you're only good at this. | ||
| So, um, his whole brand is what I love. | ||
| It's about just believing in yourself, like, to the umpteenth degree. | ||
| You know? | ||
| To the point of almost delusion. | ||
| Stepping into your own world and being in your own mind. | ||
| Not allowing people to taint that. | ||
| I don't even remember the question. | ||
| Well, I think the question basically was, do you think he can kind of go all the way? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, in terms of what you're talking about on a political level. | ||
| Like, the stuff that you're really getting at, do you think he can get there? | ||
| Because he kind of jumps in, right? | ||
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He does. | |
| He jumps in, and the problem with Kanye is he gets misunderstood, and he's not the most eloquent speaker. | ||
| You know, he'll rant, and then he'll say one thing, and go over here. | ||
| And people that don't follow him don't dig deep enough. | ||
| But, I mean, Kanye, what he could do for the black community, and he tried it, you know, he told them, I supported Donald Trump, and look what happened. | ||
| It's a mental disorder. | ||
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Right, didn't he check into it the next day? | |
| Yeah, people were like, he only said that because he has a mental disorder. | ||
| And he purposely, when he checked out, what did he do? | ||
| He went straight to Trump Tower and did a photo op with Donald Trump to let people essentially know that wasn't a mental disorder. | ||
| I said what I said, and I meant it. | ||
| You know, and it's because he's always been anti-PC. | ||
| People look back at that Taylor moment and don't realize what he was saying was true. | ||
| You know, she didn't deserve the award. | ||
| There's really people that follow music. | ||
| It's outrageous that she won that award, but it was about, you know, pleasing a certain fan base, whatever it was. | ||
| It was totally, like, you know, hijacked and he did it, again, not the most eloquent guy, right? | ||
| Right, you know what I mean? | ||
| Now, that doesn't really think the way he does, he acts and afterwards, | ||
| like, okay, maybe I shouldn't have done it that way, but what he was saying was incredibly important. | ||
| He's always been anti-PC. | ||
| Yeah, it's funny, I don't even remember. | ||
| I know that I remember that moment. | ||
| I was watching it, but I didn't know a lot about, who'd they think should have won? | ||
| It was, uh. | ||
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Beyonce, single ladies video. | |
| Oh, it was for Beyonce, right, right, right. | ||
| And she won for like a fairy tale princess, like, dress up, it was. | ||
| Right, so I'm not, that's like, not really my music, so I don't, I didn't really care about that, | ||
| but I remember watching and thinking, what a dick he was, | ||
| but I'm understanding the way you're framing it. | ||
| Yeah, because people don't follow music, so that's why I said it's very hard for people | ||
| to understand Kanye West or to be fascinated by him or to understand that. | ||
| I first said, if you understand Kanye West, then you can understand the movement of Donald Trump. | ||
| It's funny to me that people can't correlate that. | ||
| It's very similar. | ||
| It's just anti-political correctness, you know? | ||
| Really interesting. | ||
| All right, from Super Chat, what do you think of the regressive left, coined by Majid Nawaz, also Sam Harris for president? | ||
| If Sam runs, I will vote for him. | ||
| I think we got your sense on what you think of the regressive left. | ||
| Not a fan, not a fan. | ||
| Pair it up, not a fan. | ||
| All right, you know what I think we're gonna do? | ||
| We're gonna do a couple more. | ||
| You wanna get a drink after this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe we'll go hunt down Kanye? | ||
| Yeah, let's go find Kanye. | ||
| Yeah, all right, all right. | ||
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So we're just gonna do a couple more and then we're gonna get a drink. | |
| Dear Candace, taking positives from the negatives, do you think that Hollywood's leftist rhetoric is going to push people away from cinemas and perhaps into more creative pursuits? | ||
| Plus, you're super pretty! | ||
| Thank you for the super pretty comment. | ||
| Yes, I think Hollywood is a sinking ship. | ||
| They either gotta shut up and do what they do. | ||
| We want to see them act and sing bad, you know? | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| That's it, you know? | ||
| I said in a video, but the extent of me watching a VMA is like the dumbest reasons. | ||
| I don't care about what your personal opinions are and stop speaking down to the rest of the world, you know? | ||
| So yeah, I think they're a sinking ship. | ||
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I don't know what other creative fields Well, YouTube, and just do your own thing. | |
| Yeah, do your own thing. | ||
| You know, it's funny. | ||
| I always think it's so funny. | ||
| People want to get their morals from Hollywood or morals from sports. | ||
| That's just an industry. | ||
| That would be like saying, I want to get my morals from the garbage industry. | ||
| Yeah, it makes no sense. | ||
| It just doesn't make sense. | ||
| They have a product. | ||
| They want people to buy that product. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Why would you get your morals from Hollywood? | ||
| I got to get my morals from the pet industry. | ||
| It just doesn't make sense. | ||
| All right, a couple more. | ||
| As a black conservative, are you ready to experience black-on-black racism a la Aunt Candice, which is a hilarious display of racism? | ||
| Aunt Candice? | ||
| Aunt Candice? | ||
| A la Aunt Candice? | ||
| Oh, oh, oh, yeah, got it, got it, got it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I see a couple of that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I've named my vlog series The Myth of the Coon for a reason. | ||
| You know, it's a myth. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Call me a coon. | ||
| Call me Uncle Tom, Auntie Tom, Aunt Candice, whatever you need to call me. | ||
| That makes you feel good. | ||
| I'm not going to stop. | ||
| You know, I'm here to stay. | ||
| This is a good one. | ||
| I'm glad someone's addressing this. | ||
| I should have mentioned before. | ||
| Can you describe any efforts to control your message you've experienced from YouTube, Twitter, et cetera? | ||
| It's interesting because it's an alarming trend. | ||
| So I've talked a lot about it, obviously. | ||
| You mentioned with Zoe involved in Twitter already. | ||
| Have you seen anything that you can really point to as? | ||
| I was censored on YouTube. | ||
| They pulled my video for no reason. | ||
| I don't even curse. | ||
| What video was that? | ||
| That was the Black Lives Matter list of demands for white people. | ||
| I read her list, the girl who wrote the list out loud, and I kind of, like, you know, pointed to the fact that it kind of sounded like Veruca Salt, Don't Care How I Want It Now. | ||
| It was a very, like, funny, lighthearted video. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And as soon as we, like, crossed, like, 200,000 views, YouTube pulled it and said that for bullying. | ||
| And I kind of created a firestorm on Twitter and it got re-established. | ||
| Facebook pulls a post every other day. | ||
| I don't even know what they're pulling anymore. | ||
| Half the time it's like, okay, locked out of my account, gotta get it back in. | ||
| Do you understand our policies? | ||
| These are my videos. | ||
| I don't even curse in my videos. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So, of course, they're in it together. | ||
| We understand that. | ||
| They came out and said they were gonna start censoring or helping bully. | ||
| It's all about bullying. | ||
| That's their shtick. | ||
| Well, it's all about diversity. | ||
| If we were to use their shit against them, Yeah. | ||
| Can we use some of that diversity? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| So it's interesting. | ||
| I'm on top of the progressive stack. | ||
| They don't want to hear me speak, so. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right, we'll do three more, and then we're going. | ||
| Patreon, do you believe there's an inherent systemic racism? | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| In this day and age, no. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| There's not. | ||
| How would you define systemic? | ||
| Meaning laws? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We can do whatever we want. | ||
| We have all the resources to do whatever we want. | ||
| We can build companies. | ||
| There's nothing that is keeping... There's no law that has stopped me from doing anything that I want in my life right now. | ||
| So, no. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| All right, two more, and by the way, will you stick around? | ||
| We'll do a rapid fire Patreon exclusive with you. | ||
| All right, cool. | ||
| This is a super chat. | ||
| Between the core principles of democracy and republicanism, which do you subscribe to most? | ||
| Is it better to abandon a movement once it's been hijacked, or do everything you can take it back? | ||
| I think the second half of that is more interesting, because I think we're both sort of in that position. | ||
| I tried, I really did try, and now I just don't believe in what the modern left is. | ||
| Yeah, you can't. | ||
| You have to just jump ship, and especially right now, it's just absolutely, I mean, there's no way you, one person, a hundred of you couldn't do it, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are you getting any outreach from people on the left going, I kind of get it, or is it... Yeah, actually, I have fans that inbox me and say, you know, I would love to have someone to speak to. | ||
| I feel like this is getting crazy and my friends are, you know, getting increasingly, you know, more terrifying. | ||
| And I take time I seek with them. | ||
| It's a big part of who I am before I go to bed. | ||
| I just get on Facebook and I'll answer them and I'll try to guide them. | ||
| A lot of younger people, which is interesting, you know, black people in college saying like, | ||
| they feel like they can't speak up. | ||
| So definitely. | ||
| Yeah, cool. | ||
| All right, last one. | ||
| I feel this is appropriate. | ||
| Hey, where can I get those shoes, girl? | ||
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You can get these shoes from Madewell. | |
| Madewell? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All right. | ||
| You feel good? | ||
| Yeah, they should give me something for that. | ||
| I just did a nice plug for Madewell. | ||
| Yeah, that's a great product placement. | ||
| They're going to check. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| I'm so glad we did this. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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I'm so happy. | |
| So I'm not kidding. | ||
| You want to go hunt down? | ||
| Yeah, let's go. | ||
| Let's go find Kanye! | ||
| All right, Candace and I are gonna go find Kanye West, but if you want more with her, we're gonna do a Patreon-exclusive rapid fire, which will be, it's exclusive, so it'll be on Patreon only. | ||
| I thank you, I mean, it's so obvious to me, you're gonna be like a rising star in this space, and we need allies wherever they are. | ||
| Absolutely, thank you for having me. | ||
| You're clear, you're clear, and like, you're saying your truth, I love it. | ||
| Thank you so much, I'm absolutely honored to be here. | ||
| Yeah, cool, awesome. | ||
| All right, so we're gonna do that, and then if you see anything weird about Kanye in the news tonight, it was probably, well, that's pretty 50-50. | ||
| Scales fence, it's me. |
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