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Hello, good people of the internet.
Dave Rubin in the Rubin Report studio.
We're testing some stuff today, just tightening up some nuts and bolts around here.
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We've been taping a bunch of stuff today.
We just re-taped a new channel trailer that'll be out soon.
I had a great interview this morning with Jason Whitlock, who a lot of you guys have asked me to have on.
He's from Fox Sports 1.
Really outspoken guy who's in the sports world but really is focused on how it's connected often in a pretty terrible way actually with the politics world and how these things get meshed together.
We had a great discussion about political correctness and free speech and money in politics and money in sports and the business side of the whole thing.
It was a true pleasure.
And it's always great to sit down with someone that at the end of the hour, I'm like, wow, there's another ally in this space.
And I think you'll find that Jason absolutely is an ally.
That'll be up tomorrow.
So what we're gonna do, we're gonna do a little Ask Me Anything as we're testing out some equipment here today.
So you can ask me anything.
We'll give preferential treatment to you people on Super Chat.
I'm sure most of you guys know how that works.
But if you throw in a couple bucks, your chat gets bumped up because the YouTube live chat obviously is usually totally bananas.
God bless all of you.
And you throw in a couple bucks, your chat gets bumped up.
David and Amira can see it.
They send it to my trusty iPad over here.
And it's quite a technological thing we got going over here.
And then we'll answer some questions.
I'll also take some questions from, if you're in the Patreon feed right now.
If you're in the Facebook feed, we'll take a gander at that.
It's a little harder to check on YouTube.
And I don't know if anyone's monitoring Twitter, but where the questions come, I'll just start answering them.
So yeah, as I said, Jason Whitlock on tomorrow.
The reaction to the Brett Weinstein chat that we had last week was absolutely off the charts.
And I'm proud to say that between what we did with Brett and then a couple days later he was on Joe Rogan, it really did amplify this story.
I saw there was a link to a story about what's happening at Evergreen State.
over on Drudge today.
So things are moving on that.
It's an important story of truly what I've been talking about for a long time, that the left will come to eat their own.
This is a movement based on destruction.
So Brett is a leftist.
He's a Bernie voting progressive who just slightly veered out of the lane that they allow him to be in.
He was actually fighting against segregation.
He was fighting against racism, against looking at someone's skin color and saying whether they can be on campus or not.
And now the campus has been closed for three days, their kids are carrying bats around, they're breaking windows, swastikas, I mean, crazy nonsense.
And of course, this is mainly being ignored by the mainstream media.
As I said, Drudge touched it, but that's not mainstream.
And the left isn't touching it at all because they don't want to touch it because then it will reflect right back on them because these ideas of screaming racist, bigot, homophobe at everybody are the things that they've pushed for so long.
So I'm happy that it's moving forward.
My direct message tomorrow is a little bit about that.
It's a little bit about this Bill Maher N-word situation.
A little bit about Kathy Griffin and the decapitated Trump thing from last week.
And, you know, all these things that we're talking about have consistently just stayed in the news.
All right, let's get to some questions.
From Facebook, does pineapple go on pizza?
Pineapple does not go on pizza.
I stand firmly for that.
Super Chat, what are your thoughts on the up and coming march against Sharia?
It seems they are trying to twist our protection of women.
So I know that this march against Sharia is coming.
I think maybe this has a little something to do with my former guest, Brigitte Gabriel, which may have been the single best reaction we've ever got to an interview.
And if you watch the whole thing, watch her speech at the end.
the last five minutes are some of the best five minutes we've ever done here.
I mean, although I said that something flew in my eye or the lights got in my eye,
I mean, she actually started bringing tears out at me because it's such a beautiful speech
about what freedom really is and why you have to fight for a generation after generation.
So as for the march against Sharia, of course.
I don't want to be too controversial here, folks, but we should not have Sharia law in the United States.
I know even if you say that, it somehow makes you seem like you're a paranoid right-wing lunatic.
But there are the underpinnings, and again, this is a lot coming from this alliance between the left and Islamism, that would lead people to believe in this, so enough people are going, we have to march against this.
What we should be marching for is liberalism and logic and reason because these are the antidotes not only to Sharia, but to any bad idea.
Whatever authoritarian bad idea you don't like, whether it's the far-left progressive ideology or whether it's some far-right authoritarian ideology, the answer to all of that is more freedom, is more liberty.
That's why whether you say you're a classical liberal, you're a libertarian or whatever,
whatever, you know, the words are becoming less meaningful in a certain respect, but whatever you say you are,
if your basis is in individuality and in liberty, then we got something to talk about.
So I, what I'm gonna try to do with the show and what I've tried,
but I definitely am gonna double down on more, is talk about the things that I really do believe in
and not just waiting for some bad shit to happen and then having to react to it.
So as for the march, I think having a march to show people that we're against Sharia, well, okay, that should be understood on face value, but what do we actually stand for?
What is better than that?
And I would argue that that's liberty.
From Super Chat, is the interview between you and Lacey happening?
It is happening, 100%.
It looks like the end of June.
We're just trying to work out the date.
I just heard today, speaking of dates, I heard that she's dating YouTuber and friend of the show and friend of mine, Chris Ragon.
So I just invited them over for dinner and we'll see about that.
But Lacey's going through a really, really interesting thing.
This is not someone I was tremendously familiar with about a year ago, but she was big on the SJW side of things, did a lot of videos on that.
She's had her awakening, her red pilling, as you kids say.
And even today, she was talking about how friends are turning on her.
I can see a lot of the left people on Twitter attacking her mercilessly.
You know, I know that I lost a lot of friends.
Even just this week, two people, two people who I've worked with in the past on this show and some other things, legit verified public people, I noticed unfollowed me on Twitter.
Two people that I was sort of on the fence with.
I could tell they weren't too thrilled with me.
You know, bigoted racist white supremacist homophobe over here.
And I just saw that they dropped too.
So it's an ongoing thing that all of us, I think, that are in this space that somehow say, no, I'm going, I've lived one way, I've thought one way, but I'm going to now think differently.
We all go through this thing.
But you know what?
As I said to Lacey on Twitter just an hour ago, It's like, if you are gonna lose friends over politics, and because they've seen your evolution, well, you gotta really judge what that friendship was.
And while I, I don't wanna say regret, I have a fondness for some people from a long time ago that won't talk to me anymore.
I've actually made some really, really great friends in the past year in this space.
I mean, a guy like Colin Moriarty, who's become one of my best friends, didn't know the guy six months ago.
Eric Weinstein, Brett Weinstein, I got all the Weinsteins.
Uh and and several other people by opening myself up to the ideas that I truly believe in you will find more people coming to you.
So I know many of you guys struggle with this this idea that if you start saying what you think your friends are going to befriend you and all that stuff you will find other friends and you can find them in all sorts of places whether it's in the comment section here and then you end up in real life being friends with somebody or just just telling somebody that you meet at a bar what you really think.
I think, and it's usually okay.
All right, let's jump over to Patreon.
Do you think that we, the liberals, are actually winning the culture war, or have we just had a few prominent victories in a long war?
I've been thinking a lot about this.
This is a great question.
I think suddenly we've had a couple bursts of wind.
An influential person like Lacey on YouTube who has such a great young audience coming out for the liberal side of things and getting out of that, I think that's a nice win.
I think what's happening at Evergreen is a win for us in that it is so absurd.
Brett is not racist.
He is a far-lefty, Bernie voting progressive.
Not racist, okay?
Loves all of those ideas.
Biology professor, okay?
These things are becoming so obvious that we are getting a couple wins.
What happened to Colin when the International Business Times called him racist even though his tweet had nothing to do with race?
And then we expose that.
And then he gets on Rogan.
Brett gets on Rogan.
They come here.
There's enough of us starting to align together that I do feel like there's a little bit of a, there's a shift that I suspect mainstream will eventually pick up on and co-opt, which will kind of suck.
I don't think we're winning in that the ideas of leftism, this regressive SJW, oppression Olympics, all of this stuff, it is so ingrained and so big.
Actually, watch the beginning of my interview with Jason tomorrow, where we talk about this,
where these people that are relentlessly fighting Trump and the resistance, they think they're fighting the power,
but I personally, I agree with what Jason said, it's not Trump that really is the power.
If you think about who controls the media and who controls Hollywood and all of these ideas
that we hear all the time, that's really not Trump.
In a way, he's taking a hatchet to it.
Now, you may not like Trump of all those reasons.
Again, I did not vote for Trump.
I actually, I voted for Gary Johnson.
I did videos on why not to vote for Trump.
I warned that if liberalism doesn't take root, that someone like Trump will rise.
At the same time, I--
I'm actually fine that Trump won.
I think that this has put the chessboard up and the pieces are all over the place and everyone's kind of reevaluating their thing.
So I am okay with that at the moment.
I don't think he is a Russian agent.
If eventually the evidence comes through that he is, well, we'll deal with that at the time.
But I think we've had a couple of nice wins here, but we've got to keep standing firm and show people we're actually here.
We're not, look, if you're basing your stuff on logic and reason and trying to really find answers and not basing on hate or on xenophobia or any of that stuff, it's a little harder to gin people up, right?
So it's a little harder for us to do it.
But I think we have our work cut out for us and I think a lot of us are up to the challenge and I'm incredibly enthused by that.
All right.
Let's see, why do you believe the left says the right wants to make people poor?
Lower taxes and smaller governments seem like something that would benefit us all.
That's a super chat.
So, you know, I've shifted, most of my views, I think, if you were to ask me in 1990, when I was sort of first getting into politics, first couple years in eighth grade or something, and I considered myself liberal, most of my views are pretty much the same from back then.
I've shifted a little bit on certain economic stuff and I do see that the tax stuff to me now is something that I do, I guess I've shifted a little right on.
You should keep as much of your money as you've earned.
Now I understand we have to have some social safety net, we gotta have roads and things.
I've had a narco-capitalist on here like Brian Kaplan who would say privatize everything.
I'm certainly not for that.
That's sort of the difference where a classical liberal and a libertarian see that split.
Because there's a lot of commonality there, because it's based in liberty and individualism, and I love that.
But it's hard to define.
Does a libertarian say there should be no government?
That's more the anarcho-capitalist side.
A classical liberal says there's some utility for government.
I think that's a great conversation that we should all have.
But I agree with the premise of your question here, which is Let's you whatever you watching this whatever you earn.
I want you to keep as much of that as possible now If you're worried that well, then we're not gonna fund the arts or fund Planned Parenthood or fund Several whatever else it is.
Well, then you'll have more money You'll have more money at your discretion to do whatever you want Hopefully use it for a park in your community or whatever else you think I believe if you give people back the power that the people will do more Responsible things that they care about more hopefully within their own communities So I think that part of the reason that people think the right, the scary right, hates the poor is just because it goes to what I just said a few minutes ago about the left sort of controls the media narrative, the Hollywood narrative, the comedy narrative, all those things.
Now I think that's kind of breaking these days and I think that's that's pretty damn good.
One more on Super Chat, then I'll jump over to Facebook.
Thanks for doing what you do, Dave.
People like you are why our civilization will survive.
Wishing you well from Canada.
Well, thank you for that.
People like me are why civilization... civilization is in a lot of trouble.
I'm doing the best I can, but you've got some great people up there, like Jordan Peterson and Gad Saad.
And by the way, you know, when... we are fan funded on Patreon, as you guys know, and one of the rewards that we do Depending on how much you give.
I do these private chats with people once a month or we do some small group chats, Google Hangouts with people.
And I've gotten to know a ton of people and it's really cool.
And I've watched people get to know each other all over the world.
But we have a disproportionately high amount of people in Canada that are part of that.
And I think I've asked them, well, why do you think that is?
And several people have said, well, Canada, we're so polite over here that nobody wants to offend anybody.
So we don't really talk about these things.
So they're looking for another outlet.
So I haven't been up to Canada in a while and I really do need to get Back up there.
Let me jump over to Patreon.
What are you most looking forward to next week at Ocon?
Would you have your own brook on again to talk religion versus morality, immigration, and how to end terrorism once and for all?
So I am gonna be in Pittsburgh for a couple days at Ocon, which is the Ayn Rand conference that they do every year.
I'm gonna be doing a panel with Steve Simpson, who I've done some traveling with, and Fleming Rose, who was on the show, who is the editor of the Danish magazine that printed the Mohammed cartoons.
He's become a stalwart defender of free speech.
He's a great, great guy.
Cool, I'm proud to call a friend now.
And we're gonna be doing a panel on free speech.
Yaron, we just rebooked him, actually, yesterday.
I think it's the first week in August he will be back on.
He's a great, clear thinker.
By the way, I'll tell you something about Yaron.
I think I've mentioned this once or twice, it was a year ago this week, June 13th, so I guess technically next week, that we went independent on Patreon.
We had a cushy job at OroTV, it was great, and Larry King was wonderful to have welcomed me in there and thought that I could be a decent interviewer and all that.
It was this week that we were just preparing to leave, and I said to David and Amira, let's give up our salaries, let's give up our health insurance, let's try to do this Patreon thing, which is huge now, but nobody really knew what it was at the time.
And a lot of it had to do with a conversation that I had had about two weeks before, and you can watch the interview.
Watch my interview with your own talking about rational self-interest, talking about doing things
for yourself so that you can do good for others.
And I really do like a lot of those ideas and I've tried to put them in play,
not only in my personal life, but in my professional life now that I have a small business here
and how I operate professionally and all those things.
So yes, your own will be back on.
And I'm looking most forward, I guess, to my little talk, but it'll be nice to meet some interesting people.
When I've done some of these tours that I've done with Faisal and with Colin and with Michael Shermer and Christina that have all been through ARI, we've met a ton of great kids.
And with real diversity.
You know the diversity I like?
It's not just the diversity of color.
I like the diversity of thought.
Okay, let's see.
Facebook.
Who is your favorite YouTuber?
Who's my favorite YouTuber?
Well, specific YouTuber, I mean, Phil DeFranco's doing great stuff, and we're gonna get him in here at some point.
I think he's really, really trying to analyze things honestly and properly, and he also, like me, is fully independent, which allows him to do what he thinks is right, and I just, I dig what he's doing, and he's one of, you know, people always ask me, well, who do you trust?
Who do you trust?
He's one of the people that I basically trust.
and yeah, there you go.
Another one from Facebook real quick.
What is your take on the Qatar crisis?
So I think this is extremely interesting.
I'm glad you asked, and I wanna get somebody that's really well versed in this to discuss.
I think there's actually something good happening here.
Qatar has been funding a lot of the terrorism throughout the world, from Hamas and Hezbollah
to what they're doing with the Muslim Brotherhood that's directly connected to the Islamist ideas
that seep into the West, that these aren't jihadists, meaning they're not necessarily blowing things up,
but they're trying to ruin the underpinnings of Western civilization using our systems against us.
I mean, watch my interview with Brigitte Gabriel for more on that.
So I think there's something interesting that started with Trump in Saudi Arabia, where he subtly called that out and now suddenly all those countries are turning against Qatar, saying you're going to shut off this spigot of money to terrorism and Al Jazeera and all this propaganda and all that.
Now that said, Saudi Arabia does a ton of bad stuff, not only to their women and their gays and their few minorities that are there, but exporting all this Wahhabism and all that.
So one thing at a time and those are separate things, but I think basically, basically something good is coming out of that.
Hey Dave, this is Super Chat.
Hey Dave, I'm a member of Students for Liberty among a number of other organizations.
Who would we contact you to bring you to speak at our school?
Well, I spoke at University of Maryland just a couple weeks ago with Fleming, actually, and Faisal and a couple other people for Students for Liberty.
I think it's a great organization.
I had a great time, went out with a bunch of the kids after.
Who would you contact?
Go to rubinreport.com slash contact.
Submit something there and we forward everything over to my agent.
So that's rubinreport.com slash contact.
Let's see, Super Chat, how do you justify an economic safety net knowing that evidence suggests it traps people in poverty and slows down the economy?
Okay, so this is another good question that really I need to dive into it a different way.
I believe that you should have some Social safety net for the for sort of the greater good of society so for the people that absolutely Need it the most that there is that we're not just pushing people out on the street now There's a great argument to be made usually by libertarians that if you took that away that private charities private people wealthy people Organizations religious institutions and things would step in and do it more effectively than having the government do that And I think that's a really interesting
conversation to have and there's a lot of pieces of me that fall in that line.
But I think one thing at a time, and I think for the people that need it most,
you've got to have something.
This is where I just think you have to have something, but you do make a good point,
which is that sometimes when you have this stuff, in a certain way, it locks people in it.
If you give them subsidized housing and you give them money and food stamps and all those things, I'm not blaming them in any way for their situation because there's a million socioeconomic factors and sometimes actual racial factors and history and historical stuff that have led to this.
But at some point, if you're being given a certain amount of things, it actually becomes against your own interest to get out of that situation because you might have to move somewhere that's much worse, work much harder for actually the same amount or less, et cetera, et cetera.
But I'm happy to discuss those ideas further and I'm glad you asked.
Okay.
This is Super Chat.
Thanks for making such a refreshing show.
Is there a line where you find it difficult to continue supporting or listening to people?
For example, I'm struggling to keep following Crowder with his climate change misinformation.
So I don't know specifically about Crowder and that.
A couple people have tweeted me about it.
I'm happy to discuss that further with Crowder.
You know, for my feelings on climate change...
Check out my interview with Michael Mann from Penn State, who's one of the leading climate scientists in the world.
You can also watch a really interesting conversation I had with Alex Epstein from the Center for Industrial Progress, who wrote a book that I keep right there called The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels.
A lot of people were angry at me that I had a climate denier on.
I didn't get the sense he was a climate change denier.
He just believes that fossil fuels are the best current way to still bring the most Success and economic and personal best to people of the planet Earth.
I got a ton of hate for that.
I mean a ton, I still get a ton of hate for that.
By the way, after, some of you know this, but after I did that interview with Alex, he saw the comment section and people were angry at me and angry at him.
He did a video on YouTube where he took like a hundred comments out of YouTube and responded to them.
So that tells you something, a little something about him.
But as for, Well, so I can't comment on Crowder specifically, but as for the line that I draw, there have been times when I've sat across from somebody that I felt wasn't being fully honest with me, or was sort of manipulating, or in more cases they're not exactly sure what they think, or sometimes you can see people sort of lose their logic as they talk.
My feeling is, I believe you guys are smart.
That's really the truth.
If you guys have come to this show, I believe you have some level of intellectual curiosity, and I think you can often see what I see.
So you know my policy, which is let the people talk, and eventually they'll wrap the noose around them.
Now if someone sat across from me and was like, you know what, I want to kill all the gays, I want to kill all the black people, I want to kill all the Muslims, Well, first off, this is a studio in my home and I would not want them in my home, but I would expose them for that.
I don't think I would assault them in the middle of the interview, but the interview would wrap and I would make my feelings clear about what they said.
So I don't think I've ever had anyone on the show that has crossed a line.
That I thought was uncrossable.
I've had disagreements with people.
But you gotta remember, as an interviewer, I have to bring in all kinds of people here.
Just today, by the way, I sent out a list of progressives that I'd be happy to have on the show.
I don't get offended easily.
I just don't.
I did stand-up for 12 years in New York.
I had people screaming, drunk people throwing bottles at me, and all kinds of crazy shit.
It takes a lot to get offended.
For me, so if someone crossed the line, I would see it, but I don't think it would change how I behave, necessarily.
Wow, there's a ton of stuff coming in here.
From Super Chat, ex-MNA, so the ex-Muslims of North America, announced a speaking tour for college campuses.
Any advice for them?
Well, Sarah Hader, I think, is either in charge of that or is gonna be one of the main speakers.
I adore Sarah, she's become a good friend of mine.
And she is leading that organization in a great way.
Mohammed Saeed's over there.
I've met a bunch of ex-Muslims on some of these tours that I'm doing.
I think they have a wonderful burgeoning movement and it has nothing to do with hating Muslim people or anything like that.
It's a movement based on people that have said, I'm gonna leave this ideology and I'm gonna find a different ideology that I do believe in.
For more on that, check out my interview with Yasmin Mohammed, which of course was demonetized by YouTube, but you know, we'll go from there.
Superchat, hey Dave, your thoughts on the AEI Brookings project on paid family leave.
I honestly, I'm not too familiar with that, but I appreciate the question and you did throw in $20 on that, so I promise you I will get back to you on that one.
So David or Amir, if you could note that one, I will get back to that one.
Okay, let me jump back to Facebook for just a second.
Don't you think that the uproar from right-wingers about Kathy Griffin shows them to be hypocrites versus free speech?
Please watch my Direct Message for tomorrow.
It's a recap of some of the strange things that happened in the world of free speech over the last couple days.
Now, we obviously had the Kathy Griffin thing, we had the Bill Maher N-word thing, we had the Brett Weinstein continuing saga at Evergreen, but the Kathy one specifically Flip the narrative, in a way.
And I've called out the left when they've done it, and just wait for the video tomorrow and you will see your answer on that one.
On Patreon, have any of your guests made you uncomfortable, especially if they disagree with your opinions?
The only time that I was actually uncomfortable The first time I had Larry Elder on, which I've mentioned, I think is probably the most teachable moment ever on this show.
And there was a discussion when I was at Aura at the time about editing it out because I talked to him about systemic racism and he just bludgeoned me with facts.
It was before Larry and I knew each other personally.
And I think he was coming in ready for a fight and I came into a gunfight with a rubber hose.
And he bludgeoned me with some facts.
It is not my best moment if you watch it, but in another way it is a great moment because I took the hit and it did change some of my thinking.
So that's my first interview with Larry Elder.
We've, by the way, since become friends.
He's back on the show a couple months ago and he'll be back on again soon enough.
So it's an interesting one to check out 'cause you can really see me crumble
under my own not being armed enough for a particular conversation.
And by the way, I don't mind that you guys saw me that way.
I don't, I'm a human.
Most of these interviews, we don't air live.
We can edit things out.
There's been a couple other times where I've dropped the ball on this or that and we don't.
I don't mind that you don't see that, that you see that I'm not perfect.
What a silly thing.
Hi Dave, love YouTube week.
How about having a podcast week?
That's actually a great idea.
And speaking of podcasts, I'm glad you brought that up.
So as of today, we're gonna have a podcast.
We are monetizing our audio podcast.
So it's Rubin Report on iTunes, or you can go to rubinreport.com slash podcast.
You can find it anywhere.
And we are monetizing through that because, you know, we've taken a massive hit here on YouTube.
I don't want to get into all that right now.
But our rev did go way down here, about 65% month over to month.
It's all right.
It is what it is.
But we want to make up some of that money so that we're not so reliant on Patreon
because any business should have various channels of money.
The podcast network that we signed with, they have 100% no control over content.
We 100% can pick the advertisers that we're gonna work with.
It's a very nice, simple relationship.
So ZipRecruiter is our first advertiser on there, which went in today.
ZipRecruiter.com slash Reuben, if you want to hook us up over there and check out what's going on.
But Podcast Week will be interesting, and I do want to devote more time to that.
You know, what we're doing here on YouTube, this is long form in a lot of respects.
This is radio.
I come from radio.
I had a show on SiriusXM.
So I would like to invest a little more in podcasts, so I will think about that for sure.
Dave, if you ever get a chance, please check out Ranting Monkey.
This is Super Chat.
He works hard at what he does, and I think he's worth listening to.
Okay, I don't know who Ranting Monkey is, but it sounds like someone that has a monkey avatar on Twitter, and I will take a look at the Ranting Monkey.
Let's see.
From Super Chat, some guest on Daily Wire podcast a few days ago said, U.S.
is now falling slowly like the once powerful empire of Rome, culturally and politically.
Your thoughts?
You know, look, I think about this stuff.
I really do.
I mean, this is what I do for my life.
So I worry about what's happening in Western society, about whether our successes have led us to a place where we're just giving it up.
Where young people think that socialism is cool, that this leftist nonsense is cool, that the oppression Olympics is cool, that suddenly segregating based on race is cool, that the ideas of Martin Luther King and JFK that were true liberals, liberals that I believe in, That these ideas are becoming old school.
Martin Luther King and JFK would most likely be conservatives by today's standards.
So, I don't know that it's so specifically exactly like the fall of Rome, but there is something to that, that there is a civilization battle right now.
Look, what happened in London the other day, every week this is happening.
Something is happening somewhere every week, if not every day.
We don't even talk about all of them, because sometimes two people get killed in a stabbing and we just don't talk about it.
The West is going to have to decide how to deal with this, and free-loving people and pluralistic democracies are going to have to figure out how to deal with this.
If we don't, well, yes, civilization will crumble.
But there's also a risk that if we don't, that some really bad people in our own country right now will grab power and do things that are horrible.
So that's why I've tried to fight for liberalism, because I think it is the best answer to this stuff.
But we have our we have major work cut out for us.
I mean, there aren't many politicians that I think are very good.
Our system is screwy.
But by the way, again, watch my interview with Jason tomorrow.
Don't get totally caught up in just the Twitter world and the online world and the comment world, because the real world is not totally connected to that.
And there's a lot of goodness out there, too, and sometimes you forget that.
Which is why I took the weekend off the grid.
So I didn't tweet or even really check anything about London until Monday.
And in a bizarre way, it was refreshing to not have to say something about something.
I mean, yes, I could have tweeted out my thoughts on it and all that, but you know, everyone's in on this feeding frenzy and I want to, for my own Sanity and spiritual worth.
And for you guys, I feel like I don't want to add to the noise.
And I hope that, well, I hope you come here because I don't do that.
You know, there's so many questions here.
We'll go a little longer than I anticipated.
Let's see.
Dave, this is from Facebook.
How are you able to hear opposing views without wanting to give correct or alternative information?
You know, unless someone lies to my face sitting across from me and I know it, so if they fire off a bit of information or a stat that I know is a factual lie, then usually people are just telling me their opinion.
This is what I think about this situation.
That's the purpose of an interview.
So for the people that get angry at me over you nodded at them when they said this or you didn't push back on that, I pick my spots.
If you don't like those spots, I hope you're not being forced to watch the show.
If you are, I'd like to find out who's forcing you to watch.
I should probably talk to them.
Because I probably need more of them.
But discerning truth is getting harder and harder, and all of you guys are asking me this, and guess what?
I'm asking the same exact questions myself.
Gonna get any comedians on the show?
Jim Norton, Bill Burr, Colin Quinn would be good ones.
I've reached out to Jim, I've reached out to Bill.
My first ever road gig when I was a stand-up, my first road gig was at the Mohegan Sun, which is outside of New York City, a couple hour drive.
I drove Bill Burr up there, he was the headliner, I was the opener.
I wonder if he even remembers it.
But funny little thing about that, in New York City, when you're doing stand-up, you're treated like shit.
I mean, you don't get paid, or they maybe give you a beer, or you have to stand outside to hand out tickets.
So I do this road gig at the Mohegan Sun.
I don't know, I was making 150 bucks, which after travel and everything else, probably lost money on it.
And I'm opening for Bill Burr.
He wasn't a big star at the time, but he was like a known comic in New York.
And I was very excited, and I remember right before I get on stage, couple hundred people there, probably the most people I ever performed for, The manager of the room of the club, he goes, Mr. Rubin, would you like me to unscrew the cap of your water bottle before you get on stage?
And I really thought I had made it.
I was like, oh, this is what making it is.
you don't unscrew the cap of your water.
Little did I know, many years later, of doing standup and everything else,
that was just one little brief respite of nicety in the standup world.
But yes, I do want to do more with comics.
There's plenty of people, and I want to get Rogan in here and a couple others, so I'll circle back
onto a lot of those.
Let's see.
Uh...
What is your opinion of Trump's decision to leave the Paris Agreement?
A lot of people talk to me about this.
I want to get somebody on who I think can deal with this in an honest way.
Look, there were a lot of hysterics over this thing.
It was a non-binding agreement that it sounds to me that a lot of the burden was being put on the United States.
There's a lot of complexity related to this.
First off, beyond anything else, I do believe in climate science.
I am not a scientist.
If 97% of scientists say something, then I have to believe it.
I can only garner information by people that are experts in things that I'm not an expert in.
So I do believe in climate change, okay?
I've had climate scientists on here and I'd love to have more on here.
The question about the Paris Agreement was, is it creating sort of artificial, non-binding regulations that some countries are going to adhere to and some countries aren't?
Are countries like India and China going to go through their industrial revolution now and put a lot of stuff out into the atmosphere while we did it 50 years ago?
And if so, what right do we have as the United States to say, you can't do now what we did then?
Now, we know a lot more now, but there's an interesting conversation to be had there.
What disappointed me more than anything about this was just the way that people who never read the document,
who know nothing about it, were just screaming, and everybody, "The earth's gonna end tomorrow,
"the earth's gonna end tomorrow."
And it's like, I hope that Trump is honestly having real discussions
about how we can change our economy, focus on more renewable, clean, green energies,
and things of that nature.
I have faith, by the way, that the private sector and people like Elon Musk, who's not happy with Trump over this, will start focusing more on that.
Maybe if the government seems to be completely inept at doing this, that that'll spur more private sector work in the green area.
So I'm trying to be hopeful about it, but I do need to know more about it and we shall see.
Okay.
Facebook.
Dave, answer my question and I'll name my next cat after you.
What do you make of the UK political scene?
Is May worth the vote, these elections, in your opinion?
I'm very lost.
Thank you.
You're going to name your cat Dave after this?
This is very exciting.
You know what?
Name your cat Clyde and I'll tell you why in just a second.
Clyde is a great name for a cat, by the way, or for a dog, or for a human.
So on the UK front, look, I think Corbyn is a complete idiot and a regressive leftist nutbag, so that kinda leaves you with May, I guess.
Some of her response in the tweets to what happened were kinda crappy, but I think basically she's probably your better choice.
It doesn't seem like we have great choices right now.
Politically, anywhere in the world, it doesn't seem like there's some really, really great choices.
But real quick on Clyde, so I'm so thrilled.
I mentioned this on the Patreon live feed that we did.
So, most of you guys know, Clyde Drexler is my hero of all heroes from my childhood, basketball player in the 80s and 90s.
He was sort of the second best player after Michael Jordan, but played in Portland and Houston, smaller markets, never got the accolades he deserved, but was a great player, played with grace and dignity, won a championship at a later, late stage in his career when people thought it was over for him.
Anyway, he's been my hero my whole life, and I've been trying to get him on the show for years.
I've reached out everywhere.
He doesn't have a great social media presence, blah, blah.
Finally, I asked my agent, William Morris, I was like, can someone get me contact with this guy?
My agent sent me his number, his phone number, a couple days ago.
I texted him.
We've been texting.
I now have my hero's phone number in my phone.
He's agreed to do the show.
I don't know exactly when it's gonna happen, but he does get to LA often and we're gonna do it.
And it's like, wow, dreams actually do come true.
Very cool.
I don't even know that he'll be the greatest interviewer.
He's kind of soft-spoken, not particularly controversial, but I think for those of you that just dig what I do, I think you'll enjoy watching me kind of fanboy out for an hour.
So that'll be fun.
Okay.
Dave, Super Chat, your interviews are amazing and more insightful than anything I've seen on TV in my whole life.
What are your thoughts on the abandonment of Israel from the left?
Curious to hear your thoughts.
So next week, we taped this already, I have Rabbi David Wolpe, who's the rabbi at Sinai Temple here in Los Angeles.
We talk a bit about Israel.
I've talked about it with a bunch of guests here.
Look, Israel is the one democracy in the Middle East surrounded by a lot of undemocratic and often tyrannical states.
There are people there from every walk of life.
I've been there, I've been to Tel Aviv, even in the last, I was there,
I think two and a half years ago or so, where there were literally,
I saw a gay couple holding hands in the middle of the Middle East,
in the middle of the street, in the middle of the day, and nobody cared.
There are Muslim women in burqas and hijabs walking next to ultra-Orthodox Jewish men
in the middle of the summer with those crazy hats.
And it's very hot.
I don't know exactly why they're doing it.
I did ask the rabbi about that.
But they're walking next to each other on the same buses in Jerusalem.
The idea that there's apartheid there, it's the only place that allows for freedom of religion and that allows for minorities.
The third largest political party in Israel is an Arab party.
They have Arab Supreme Court justices.
I think the winner of their American Idol, the Israeli Idol or whatever, was an Arab.
They have Arabs that serve in the military.
Now, all that said, are there problems?
Absolutely.
Are there inequality problems?
Absolutely.
But the focus on this tiny little place that's the size of New Jersey, that without the West Bank is about six miles wide.
I mean, think about that.
They have one airport.
One international airport.
The endless focus on this place by the left is kind of ridiculous.
So look, they took every Jew out of Gaza.
It made Gaza worse.
They could take every Jew out of the West Bank.
It would probably make the West Bank worse and just bring more war.
You could split Jerusalem.
Jerusalem is a unified city now.
Not to say there aren't problems in Jerusalem, but again, I was in Jerusalem.
I was there in the middle of the stabbing spree, and I walked through the old gate, through the Arab Quarter.
It was extremely tense.
But there are Israeli soldiers walking by Arab men selling kanafah and falafel.
And it's happening.
So of course it's not perfect, but the unending focus on it, on this one tiny little place of a minority of people that have been hunted and hounded and Holocausted and pogrommed throughout history, does show a real issue with the left, because the left hates power.
So if the Jews were being slaughtered, the left would be all about the Jews.
Now they have some degree of power, so the left is sort of against them.
It's a sickness and a twist of the mind.
I talked a bit about that with Dennis Prager, by the way.
Holy cow, there's a lot here.
Dave, your thoughts on Sam Harris's recent podcast guest, Timothy Snyder's warning that the far right and our far left are ripe for being led down a road to tyranny by an authoritarian regime.
I haven't heard that interview yet, but I'm traveling a lot over the next couple of days and I have a few podcasts I need to catch up on.
But I absolutely believe that.
I mean, I'll comment on the left thing, because that's a little more of my specialty, but there's obviously, this authoritarian movement on the left, this has been primed to be grabbed by someone horrible.
So if you think, if you're against what's happening with the left, and you don't like Bernie Sanders, well guess what?
It's going to get much worse than Bernie Sanders.
One day, old Bernie, with three houses and his $100,000 car, or whatever else he's got, and he made a million bucks last year, and everything else, none of which I begrudge him, by the way.
I believe if he earned it, he can keep it.
The movement is going to take him down one day too.
And if you don't believe me, watch that video during the campaign when those Black Lives Matter activists grabbed the mic from him and he just shut up and sat there like a little bitch, basically.
Because this movement is about, this is why this victimhood as virtue thing is so dangerous.
It's going to eat itself.
Now, for someone that doesn't like this, I don't mind them eating themselves, but I think it could be grabbed by a much harder, Authoritarian regime or leader and that would be terrible.
By the way just quickly on the right of course that could happen too.
The further off Whatever the far parts of the right are right now, and I'm not talking about Pepe and Harambe and Kekistan and the shit posters, okay, who are having fun by wrangling feathers or ruffling feathers, wrangling chains, whatever that element of the far-right that actually is a nationalist far-right based in some sort of ethno-nationalist something or other,
That doesn't want America to be the place that is for all people, that it is enshrined in our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.
This is a problem.
Absolutely this is a problem.
That doesn't have institutional power.
The left stuff right now has institutional power at colleges and television and all that stuff.
And that's why I think it's a bigger problem at the moment.
Hey Dave, I'm a huge fan.
Do you have any good book suggestions?
So I was thinking of maybe doing like a book club thing or something, which I know it's sort of corny, but I think it would be fun if like once a month we all picked a book, then we do a live stream about it.
Maybe I Skype in some of you guys.
I can either maybe get an author on or something like that.
So I've been discussing that with the team.
I would say On Liberty by John Stuart Mill is probably the most politically influential book there is for me, and it's not that hard to read very quick.
And another one that really influenced me a ton I've read all of Carl Sagan's books, I've got one of them right here, but his last book was called Billions and Billions.
He actually died before it finished, so his wife, Ann Druyan, had to finish it.
But it's a great summation on his thoughts of the world on just so much deep, rich stuff.
I'm due for a rereading of it myself, but I would say those are the two that would be good.
Let's see.
This is from Facebook.
How's the West Hollywood LGBT community treating you based on your political beliefs?
Well, I moved from West Hollywood, so I'm not there that often, but yes, I mean, people have asked me this.
The gay community has been in lockstep with all this leftist stuff.
I see a huge shift right now.
I discussed this a little bit with Ayaan, that some minority communities, so the black, I think the three in particular right now, The black community, the Jewish community and the gay community are all having major splits where for the first time there are voices in those communities talking about liberalism.
What I mean by that is individualism and talking about some libertarian stuff and getting away from this collectivist stuff because they see the dangers of why they're being thrown under the bus in They're being thrown under the bus, basically, by ideologies that want to keep them oppressed.
And none of these people should be oppressed.
Nobody should be oppressed.
So usually when I walk around West Hollywood, people would say nice things to me, because generally if someone's going to say hi to you, they're going to say something nice.
Well, I've had a couple instances where people have come up to me and said something not too pleasant, but that's all right.
That's okay.
Let's see.
Super Chat, as a fellow gay man, how do I argue with leftists that proclaim to represent me while at the same time hating me for being white and a Trump voter?
So this is sort of what I'm addressing in the one before that.
It's tough, right?
It's a tough situation because, you know, gay thought, Milo and I talked about this a bit, gays used to be subversive and edgy and funny and drag queens, which I never liked drag queens and I always thought a lot of gay comedy was horrible and a lot of the TV shows were bad and all that stuff.
I was never into that whole scene.
But being gay used to be about being the other, making fun of everything, mocking everything, fighting the power.
Now gay is so entwined in what the leftist ideology that is the dominant ideology in this country that gays have now become, in many respects, the most politically correct and in a certain way the most intolerant.
So I see this now.
I get a ton of email from gay people saying the exact thing that you're saying here.
Well, I'm either now a libertarian, or I'm a conservative, or I care about taxes, or I'm a Trump supporter, and I'm being kicked out of the gay group thing.
I think you just gotta be brave like anybody else.
You know what I mean?
I'm just one person telling you what I'm thinking, but you will find better friends.
It goes back to where we started with the Lacey thing.
If your friends aren't happy with you, and they don't like the way you're thinking, well, at some point, not that you should be giving up friends over, Politics, because I don't believe in that.
But if people are giving up on you, sometimes you have no choice.
So, you know, that one's tough.
What is your favorite meal that David, self-described as your personal chef, cooks?
Which of his recipes would you most recommend?
So for those of you that don't know, David, my husband, he's the producer of the show here, but his real passion is cooking.
You can go to instagram.com slash davidscookbook.
He's an incredible, incredible chef.
And over the last couple of weeks, we've had a ton of family here from His brother and sister-in-law and his sister and my sister and my brother-in-law my niece and his dad and my parents are coming a couple weeks been running a little Airbnb over here So we've been eating some some amazing stuff.
He makes an incredible chicken parm in a cast-iron.
That's probably my favorite thing and But he roasts all kind of whole chickens.
He'll do filet mignon.
And he does this incredible Japanese beef stew.
Instagram.com slash David's Cookbook.
And he's working on a cookbook, by the way.
So stay tuned for that.
Let's see.
A whole bunch about the gay thing for Trump supporters, which I think is interesting.
Any advice for a gay centrist Trump voter looking for good ways to debate leftists who refuse to acknowledge Islam's role in terrorism in England?
Again, I mean, I think have an honest conversation, as honest as you possibly can.
Do you think if these ideas, if the ideas of the Islamists are imported here, if these ideas take root here, look where the ideas are now.
Is this good for gay people?
So if you don't think the ideas are good for gay people, Where they've already taken root, would they be good here?
Now that doesn't mean you should start prejudging and being prejudiced to someone who happens to be Muslim, who you don't know how they practice their faith, who may just want to live like you wanna live and have a job and have some sex and play video games and shoot hoops.
But that doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to talk about the ideas.
That's the difference between ideas and people.
And we should always fight against, if there was an anti-gay political party or an anti-woman political party, Or a political party that said, women are going to have to wear burkas and we may throw gays off roops.
We're not going to be tolerant of religious minorities or any of those things.
And that was a political party.
The left would be up in arms.
They'd be saying, you're evil Republicans and conservatives.
But when these ideas come out of religion, we suddenly get all offended.
And this is just, this is silly, lazy thinking that we have to destroy.
Super chat.
Hey Dave, I'm a big fan of the show.
I'm a writer with Odyssey Online and want to address the growth of radical Islam in Europe, but I'm worried about pushback from my SJW's tips on how to combat it.
I mean, everyone asks me this.
You can see it's been a sort of theme here lately.
I don't know what you can do other than slowly maybe start showing people clips of the conversations that we've had around here, some of the conversations that Ayaan has had, watch some old Christopher Hitchens stuff, watch some George Carlin stuff where he wasn't necessarily dealing with Islam specifically but was dealing with bad ideas, get people to open up and try to Try not to be as outraged as they are.
So when you get into a heated battle, try to have them take a step back.
I think that's the best thing you can do.
But it is not gonna be easy, and the more you talk about this stuff, as Lacey's gone through, as I've gone through, as many of you have gone through, yeah, you will lose some friends and things like that.
It's just unfortunate, but it is how it is.
Are you gonna have red-pilled Lacey Green on, and have you seen her nude?
I have not seen her nude, but she is gonna come on, yes.
What's your thoughts on Milo's new book deal?
Does he have a new deal since the Simon & Schuster thing went down or is he self-publishing?
I'm not sure, but I suspect he's probably going to sell way more books now because they made a martyr out of him, which if they would have just ignored him, that would have been the biggest thing he would have feared and he probably would have gone away.
And I'm sure we'll have Milo back at some point.
Patreon, when will America get a new centrist political party with a brain?
Can you help start it?
And as it stands, both parties are broken.
Have you ever spoken with anyone from the Manhattan Institute?
I haven't spoken with anyone from the Manhattan Institute.
I do think a centrist party is possible, as I've said before.
I think the Libertarian Party is ripe for hijacking.
They're on the ballots already.
They've done nothing down-ballot, which is a shame.
You know, they only run for president.
They never do anything down-ballot.
I think they should start doing some stuff down-ballot.
I think if some sensible people, a guy like Ben Shapiro, let's say, said, you know what, I'm running under the Libertarian ticket, he could probably suck half off the Republicans immediately.
And take some from the sane Democrats.
I'd have some issues with that, but I think that would be kind of interesting.
My hope is that as this show grows, as the desire for some sanity in politics grows, which I think it will and it is, I hope there's someone running in 2020 that I can give a full-throated endorsement to, that I can say, this is someone who I think can make things a little bit better.
But generally speaking, because my belief is things will get better as we scale back government,
that's not really the type of people that run for government.
Which is why I liked a lot of the ideas of Rand Paul, but when he was on the debate stage,
it looked like he was, you know, a clown.
It was a clown show and he was not wearing any makeup, which was a problem for him.
Dave, would you run as a libertarian for the 2020 presidential election?
I don't think I'm gonna run.
The idea of going through that monster, that destructive beast where they just wanna destroy you and these politics are not, I think I'm good at the idea thing.
I would love to debate.
I'd love to be up there with the debates and get my live skills and stand-up skills and because I have a competency of understanding what I'm talking about, I would love to do all that.
But the idea that they will just destroy you, they'll destroy your family and all that stuff.
And by the way, they want you to know that, so that no good people run.
And that's why we only get this certain class of people.
So I don't think I would ever want to go through that.
But I think that I will do everything I can to always talk about the ideas that I care about.
And hopefully, as I said, hopefully there'll be somebody there that I know, that I believe in.
Super Chat, can you interview Terry A. Davis on your show?
He has some interesting stories about the CIA.
Someone emailed me about him today.
I'm not sure who he is.
Maybe it's you that emailed, but we will add him to the list for sure.
Are you looking to bring Sam Harris back on the show?
Would you talk about his views on Trump-Russia?
Do you plan to talk Trump with other guests?
Sam is always welcome back.
He knows that the door is absolutely open.
I owe him a tremendous amount of my Success, and I admire him, and I love him as a friend.
So yes, he's welcome.
I'd be happy, and yeah, I'd be happy.
You know, we haven't done much Trump stuff specifically on the show the last couple weeks.
You know, here's what we'll do.
I'll ask Scott Adams to come back.
Scott is the creator of Dilbert, who is a early Trump supporter who I've had on, who I think is really big on that side.
I've asked David Frum a couple times, who I know Sam is an admirer of, who's hugely anti-Trump.
So I'll try to do, you know what, I'll try to do back-to-back shows.
Maybe we'll do two shows in a week.
One with someone pro and one with someone anti.
And then maybe we'll do one where I have two people on together having a conversation about it.
Which, by the way, we're gonna do a little bit more of in about two weeks.
We're doing our first real one of those.
We have Dennis Prager on with Michael Shermer, both are former guests and friends of mine.
Dennis did a video for PragerU on why you can't have morality without God.
Michael did a counter video, I emailed them both and I said, you guys wanna, let's talk it out.
They both agreed immediately, so I'm excited about that.
In this specific case, I probably agree with Michael more, but I will do my best to be a fair arbiter, and I'm certainly not scoring them at the end and handing a trophy to anyone.
I just wanna see people that are respectful of each other talk.
And I'm pretty sure Michael's even been on Dennis' show before.
So this is, by the way, this is where people with a difference of opinion, who both happen to lean right, in that Dennis is a conservative, And Michael's a libertarian.
They're willing to have that debate, where I don't see as much of that on the left.
What's your favorite interior design style?
I've noticed you have a bit of mid-century modern pieces mixed into your set.
So first off, for anything that you like on this set, I have to give a lot of the credit here to Amira, who designed it, and she did give me options on most of these things, so this is where we went.
So yeah, the chair obviously is mid-century modern.
Some of the, I think the other chair is probably mid-century modern.
I do generally lean toward modern stuff and kind of a clean look.
So my house in general is kind of clean.
And by the way, I do listen to Jordan Peterson.
I like a little bit of a mess in a house because I feel like it makes me feel like I'm alive and there's a little bit of spontaneity there.
David's very organized and clean, so we've come to a basically happy medium on that.
But I generally, I do like the modern look, but I also like some sort of like industrial stuff and some stuff to break it up a little bit.
But I'm probably not the best interior designer on the planet, I don't think.
I do have, you know, I said to Joe Rogan once years ago that I'll know I'm successful when I don't have all Ikea.
Well, I don't have all Ikea anymore, but I still got plenty of Ikea.
Dave, been around a while, love watching you answer the same question every time.
Have rational news YouTubers thrown around the idea of a political party?
You're sort of asking me the same question, so you do stand for what you believe.
There's a lot of discussions in this space that I can't fully talk about,
but there's discussions about networks, there's discussions about parties,
about how to unify all this stuff, about how we all won't be sort of bounty hunters
in this space.
You know, me and Star Wars, I always think this is like Empire Strikes Back when Vader's talking to Boba Fett
and to Bosk and the rest of them, you know, bring me Solo and the Wookiee, but no disintegrations.
I feel like we're in a little bit of that situation where we're all kind of doing our own thing,
And I would like to see a little more of a unifying factor.
I think there's some pieces in place for that, and we shall see.
You know what?
I'm gonna do five more minutes.
There's a zillion questions here, but I've got some other things to do, and we've been taping all day, so...
Any update on getting Elon Musk or Neil deGrasse Tyson on?
We've reached out to both.
I actually saw, I bumped into Neil deGrasse Tyson in New York City about a month and a half ago.
When I say bumped into, I sort of half stalked him.
I saw him like on the corner, you know, wearing his cowboy hat and whatever.
It was right outside of the Museum of Natural History.
And I kind of hunted him down and said, I'm friends with Sam and I've got Lawrence Krauss on the show and blah, blah, blah.
I'd love for you to come on.
And he said, yes, yes, reach out to my people.
We did, haven't heard back, so I hope we can get him.
And we shall see.
I want that print behind you.
Who is the artist?
I'm not sure which one you're talking about.
If you're talking about this one right here, that's an original that was done by Kaylin Janet.
Her website is Kaylin, C-A-Y-L-I-N Janet Rose, C-A-Y-L-I-N Rose Janet dot com.
And she did that one and she did the one above it that you can't quite see right now.
This print over here, I'm blanking on who it was from.
I think it might've had something to do with NASA.
People ask me about that one all the time.
But by the way, Kaylin Janet, who's, The Jet Propulsion Laboratory is where that print came from.
That print right there.
But by the way, Cailin Janet, who's an incredible artist, she just painted, we commissioned her, for a five foot by six foot front view of the Millennium Falcon as it's going into hyperspace, which I have in the room out there.
And I have it on my Instagram, I think.
It's instagram.com slash Rubin Report.
And she's really doing some great stuff.
So check her out.
And all right, we got three minutes left.
So if you're jumping on Super Chat, make it good people.
Hey Dave, I'm a constitutional conservative.
I'm a huge fan of your show with everything going on in Europe.
Do you think there's any hope for a turnaround or is it past the point of no return?
I genuinely don't know.
I don't think anyone knows.
I think that the more that the West just turns its head or is afraid to have an honest discussion about what's going on, or the more that there are terror attacks and the immediate response is not about the victims or the ideology that caused it, but about people that you're saying have nothing to do with it.
Well, we have to worry about Muslims.
I don't want there to be any crime towards Muslims.
I want Muslims to be treated equally.
I want everyone in society to be treated equally.
But the more we move the ball off what the real issues are, and we don't have leaders who will truly deal with this honestly, then you're gonna get demagogues.
And what does that mean for the future of Europe?
You're either gonna have some sort of Really far right nationalist populist thing that will not be good.
Europe does have a history of something like that.
Or you're gonna have this leftist ideology in charge that refuses to deal with the problem as the problem grows and grows and grows.
So I don't know.
I think Europe is changing massively and we're just kind of sitting here and watching it.
Think about it.
If something horrible happened in Paris tomorrow, We'd all be outraged again, but you wouldn't be surprised if something happens horrible in London tomorrow.
You wouldn't be surprised or Brussels tomorrow.
And eventually, if we don't have that honest discussion, it will start being exported everywhere.
There are obviously plans for it to be.
And we have to start talking about honestly, but I don't know.
I do worry about that.
I mentioned earlier, like I genuinely worry about, and that's why I'm doing this.
What is the future?
If we're not going to deal with this, then we're going to hand it to people who are going to have much easier answers.
All right, people, one more big finish here.
Let's see.
There's a lot of good ones here.
I'll do two more quick ones.
So one is about Colin Kaepernick still not receiving an NFL contract.
Is he being blackballed or genuinely not good enough?
Watch my chat with Jason Whitlock tomorrow.
We really went into that and he's been pretty outspoken about Kaepernick.
And finally, You know, it's not a question, but it seems like the right one to end on.
Dave, thanks for all your hard work.
I stumbled on your show not too long ago, and I appreciate the balanced approach and great conversations.
Well, I appreciate that, and that's what I'm trying to bring to you guys.
And, you know, I'm not perfect, but I do the best I can.
All right, I think we got our test.
So the whole point of this, although I always enjoy talking to you guys, we were testing out a couple things in our simulcast to Facebook and YouTube.
It sounds like it was a success.
Always happy to talk to you guys.
Maybe we'll start doing a little more of these live Q&As through Skype, where I let some of you guys Skype in and we can talk directly to you.
That could be kind of interesting.
We shall see.
And we got some other big plans.
As I mentioned, our podcast is monetized as of today.
So for those of you that support on Patreon, you already do more than enough for us.
And I thank you for those of you that don't.
If you download our podcast and you go to ziprecruiter.com slash Reuben, that helps us out.
But there are ads on there now.
It helps us deal with the YouTube thing.
But we're building a lot of great things.
I had a great call with my agent today.
There's a couple interesting things in place.
I'll be doing the Greg Gutfeld Show on Fox News on June 16th.
I will be at Ocon, if any of you are in Pittsburgh, I'll be there next week, talking with Steve Simpson and Fleming Rose and a couple other people, and Yaron Brook will be there, who was mentioned earlier.
And all right, it's a little warm in here right now, so I'm going to wipe my brow and say goodbye, and Jason Whitlock tomorrow.
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