Jan. 19, 2017 - Rubin Report - Dave Rubin
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| All right, people. | ||
| I'm just... | ||
| Stretching it out before the big live stream happy hour from the studio. | ||
| We're testing a bunch of things that we got going on at the studio right now. | ||
| We have a pretty, well, we've got a full functioning studio, no doubt about that. | ||
| And now we're kicking it up a notch. | ||
| We have a couple of cool surprises coming in the next few days. | ||
| So we're testing out a few things over here. | ||
| So we thought we'd do a little Ask Me Anything, a little happy hour with you guys. | ||
| I poured myself a Corona Lite with extra lime and a fancy beer glass. | ||
| What are you drinking? | ||
| Let us know in the comments right there. | ||
| So here's what we're gonna do. | ||
| We'll do a little Ask Me Anything. | ||
| We can talk Trump. | ||
| I don't know if you know, but he's gonna be inaugurated in two days, barring World War 6. | ||
| And we will talk about, we can talk about Obama's last week, a bunch of other political stuff. | ||
| We can talk about some fun stuff. | ||
| I just got a new Nintendo I'm very excited about. | ||
| All kinds of stuff. | ||
| And I'll answer questions, and Amira and David are going to be texting things. | ||
| I've got my trusty iPad here, so I will see everything. | ||
| So you guys can comment right in the YouTube comment section right down below. | ||
| We are giving first-look access to our patrons, so if you are a member, whatever you do, even if it's just a dollar a month over at patreon.com slash RubinReport, your questions will get preferential treatment. | ||
| You guys are the ones that give us the budget for the show, so we go to you guys first, but we will look at everything, and I guess if you tweet at me too and that kind of stuff, they'll take a look at that. | ||
| Anyway, it is a crazy, it is really just a crazy, crazy time right now. | ||
| Like, people are just going bananas. | ||
| You know, I said right before the election That I thought there would be like a little period of calmness. | ||
| Like, it was so crazy for the year leading up to the election, then the week before the election everybody was nuts. | ||
| And I had just a feeling, regardless of who won, that for a little bit there would be just like this tiny, teeny, tiny window where everything would be a little bit okay. | ||
| We just have never had that period. | ||
| We haven't had that period. | ||
| It seems like everyone's just going more and more crazy. | ||
| You know, you guys know for me, what I've said is, consistently what I've said, is that I absolutely will hold Trump's feet to the fire on these things, but I've basically got to wait until he's in office. | ||
| So much of what he's done, as Scott Adams talked about when he was on this show, has been about sort of the game and leading people and then doing something else and misdirection and all that. | ||
| Now you may not like any of those tactics, but that's the stuff that the guy's doing. | ||
| So for me to get outraged over cabinet picks before they've done anything and all that kind of stuff, I just think it's short-sighted and there's enough people doing that. | ||
| One of the more kind of depressing things that I've seen over the last couple weeks all across the board is that so many comedians, people who are supposed to be funny, some people who I admire and like and some people I know, they're just so deeply unfunny. | ||
| Like, what happened to these funny people? | ||
| I used to be funny. | ||
| And thanks to these motherfuckers, I'm gonna have to start being funny again because nobody's doing it anymore. | ||
| So I'm gonna get back into stand-up. | ||
| I feel like I gotta do an hour. | ||
| I have to do like an hour HBO special. | ||
| I really don't want to do it to go back to stand-up. | ||
| The thing is with stand-up, everybody starts in stand-up and gets the hell out of there. | ||
| There's very few lifetime stand-ups. | ||
| You know, Seinfeld's a lifetime stand-up, George Carlin was a lifetime stand-up, Bill Maher. | ||
| Most of these people, you do stand-up for a while, and you get the hell out of there for your sitcom or anything else. | ||
| I got a gig that I dig, but I feel like I have to do it. | ||
| I have to do it. | ||
| And there's just nothing funny coming out of the left anymore, and it's so depressing or whatever. | ||
| Anyway, all right, we'll take some questions, and it's happy hour. | ||
| Let me know what you're drinking. | ||
| I am going, as I said, with the CoronaLite, Some extra lime in there. | ||
| All right, David and Amir are gonna fire me off some questions. | ||
| And then we'll start playing along. | ||
| So also, we are gonna be doing some live streaming with some special guests, and I don't wanna announce who just yet, on Friday for Inauguration. | ||
| So I think Inauguration is about noon, or I guess it's maybe 11.30 a.m. | ||
| Eastern, and then it should be wrapped around noon. | ||
| We'll live stream the second, you know, he puts his hand on the Bible, says, that's it, I'm taking over. | ||
| We'll be live streaming right after that. | ||
| Okay, so let's see. | ||
| No, so if you guys are watching, there is no direct Patreon post for this. | ||
| This video is going out to everybody. | ||
| This is for all people right now. | ||
| So there's no direct Patreon post to this. | ||
| Anyone that subscribes or clicks the link or anything can watch this thing right now. | ||
| So let us know, throw me some questions right down below. | ||
| So anyway, yeah, we're gonna do some live streaming from there. | ||
| I mentioned earlier in the week that we just invested in some really, really cool equipment that, as far as I know, nobody on YouTube is using, at least nobody in the context of the world, the portion of YouTube that I'm in, that I think is gonna really ramp this show up to a new level and change a little bit. | ||
| You know, we're always gonna keep doing the interview thing for sure, but really this is gonna add a whole new dimension to To what we're doing, so I'm psyched to be testing that with you guys on Friday. | ||
| Okay, here we go. | ||
| First question. | ||
| What are the good and bad things about Obama? | ||
| Well, the good things about Obama, Obama, whether you agree with his positions or not, this is clearly a bright, thoughtful guy. | ||
| And I think we are going to miss that, I really do. | ||
| Again, you don't have to agree with him on anything. | ||
| You don't have to agree with him on economic policy or foreign policy or any of that stuff. | ||
| But that this is a measured, smart, you know, this is a Harvard Law guy. | ||
| This guy knows what he's saying and speaks in a certain way that I think is thoughtful and intelligent. | ||
| And I think that, and calming. | ||
| And I think that I do think that even if things go great with Trump we are gonna miss a little bit of just sort of a certain way of speaking that's kind of decent that we've had with Obama. | ||
| I think look Obama inherited a horrific economy that could have gone off the rails with him and it did not. | ||
| Now a lot of Republicans and people on the right would say it didn't get to where it should be. | ||
| Certainly Trump would argue that and plenty of the people that voted for Trump would argue that of course. | ||
| But the economy basically recovered. | ||
| So that was good. | ||
| I think he's failed, you know, the foreign policy stuff, I think is where he's failed. | ||
| And maybe it's just set up that, you know, presidents, no matter what, a certain amount of people are gonna hate him, a certain amount of people are gonna love him. | ||
| I think the Syria red line thing, I think is gonna go down as one of the biggest blunders in American history. | ||
| And you can watch, there are videos from when I was on The Young Turks at the time. | ||
| And I said before the, Obama said the red line thing. | ||
| I said we should not be involved in this. | ||
| Now, this was before hundreds of thousands of people had been killed, because it's something like 500,000 people dead now. | ||
| I mean, this is a true humanitarian disaster that basically we haven't seen the likes of since, you know, for 50 some odd years. | ||
| I was completely against doing anything. | ||
| For the United States alone. | ||
| What I was saying is, look, Syria's got other neighboring countries like Saudi Arabia and Turkey. | ||
| I think Turkey has the third largest army. | ||
| Like, let some of these countries do something for a change. | ||
| Every time the United States does something, people hate us. | ||
| And if we don't do things, people hate us. | ||
| That being said, when Obama did the red line, and again, you can go back and find the video from probably three years ago, three and a half years ago. | ||
| Once he said that, that does change things because now you're saying, if you do this, then we have to do something. | ||
| They used chemical weapons, Assad used chemical weapons, and we didn't do anything. | ||
| Now, I don't want to be at another war. | ||
| We toppled Libya. | ||
| Clinton and Obama did that. | ||
| Nobody knows why. | ||
| Does anyone know what kind of government Libya has right now? | ||
| We're still at war in Afghanistan. | ||
| Iraq is a huge mess, even though we basically left, but we still have some people there. | ||
| But you want to try to help people when you can. | ||
| Anyway, the whole point is that it's extremely complex. | ||
| But I think when you say something, the word of the United States has to mean something. | ||
| So not only does that embolden the people who don't like you, but then the allies, your allies, go, wait a minute, wait a minute. | ||
| They publicly said they were gonna do something with this red line, now nothing happened. | ||
| So I think that's a huge problem, and I think that's gonna go down as his biggest problem. | ||
| Beyond that, I think basically the country chugged along and we didn't have, | ||
| look, we had seemingly lone wolf terrorist attacks, horrific things like in San Bernardino and in Orlando, | ||
| but we didn't have a mega attack, so of course that's positive. | ||
| But more than anything else, I think a certain amount of tenor, | ||
| even though I know a lot of people on the right will disagree with me on this | ||
| and say that he stoked racial tensions and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| But I think the basic tenor and feeling like we had a smart person in office, I think we will miss. | ||
| Let's see, all right, how do you feel about, we got a couple things here. | ||
| Do you think you could interview someone from Black Lives Matter? | ||
| Do you think that that would be challenging? | ||
| I'd be happy to do it. | ||
| I have emailed DeRay Mckesson. | ||
| I never got a response, and we've been looped in some tweets together, but I can try on that one again. | ||
| I don't really know who the actual leaders of the movement are per se, but I would absolutely be happy to do it. | ||
| I think the movement, which I think, again, and I say this phrase about You know the road to hell is paved with good intentions. | ||
| I think at first had good intentions to call attention to what they saw as a real problem with policing and racism has now turned into something else that is trying to lead the pack on this oppression Olympic stuff which is why they can go to a gay pride parade in Toronto and literally stop the parade and make the parade organizers say something about how they feel about black people. | ||
| Now, first off, this is in Canada, so it has nothing to do with the United States Police Force, | ||
| but this is what the Oppression Olympics does. | ||
| You always have to put your oppression, whether it exists or not, above someone else's. | ||
| So I think they've really gone in a way that I think is not good, but I would be happy | ||
| to, of course, have those conversations. | ||
| Any multiple guest episodes on the calendar yet? | ||
| Debate or collaborations? | ||
| So a lot of you guys have been asking about this. | ||
| So first off, I just tweeted today, we finally are going to be booking our next YouTube week, which I'm psyched for. | ||
| It's five days in a row where we do five full interviews with YouTubers. | ||
| Last time we did a whole bunch of people, including Chris Ragon and Blair White. | ||
| And that guy, T. And this time, we're gonna do five more people. | ||
| We also are gonna start doing some more debates. | ||
| You know me, I like the long-form conversation, but I think getting a little more debate in this, as long as people will treat it respectfully and honestly. | ||
| Look, I've had people sit in that chair right across from me who have debated each other. | ||
| Dinesh D'Souza has debated Michael Shermer. | ||
| I like them both. | ||
| I tend to agree, obviously, more with Michael Shermer on most things, but I would love to get that. | ||
| As long as people will do it, Within the context of decency and not bullshitting and lying Then I will be happy to have those conversations. | ||
| Of course a bunch of people have asked about How do you feel about the Chelsea Manning thing so look There's something very strange going on here. | ||
| And this is how everyone picks a side and then once you've picked that side once you say this is my team and Then your ability to be honest really goes out the window. | ||
| So look, if you're upset right now about what you think is election hacking and Russia's involvement in our election and leaked documents and all of those things, well all of that is directly related to Chelsea Manning and WikiLeaks. | ||
| So if you're upset by that, you have to be pissed at Chelsea Manning. | ||
| So you can't be upset by that and then also want Chelsea Manning to go free. | ||
| Now, Chelsea Manning's been in jail for, what is it, five years or so? | ||
| Is it seven years? | ||
| I'm not even fully sure, but for enough time. | ||
| Now, I don't know. | ||
| This is one of the things, you know what, I can't give you a full, like, this is absolutely what I think is right idea. | ||
| Look, if we pardon Chelsea Manning, which Obama did, Once Chelsea Manning's pardoned, who knows how many other people in the government will release information. | ||
| Now let's say some of it is right for us to know. | ||
| It's important that we know that our government is spying on us or some of this stuff. | ||
| At the same time, governments do have to have certain secrets to keep things operating. | ||
| That's just reality. | ||
| But again, I would welcome you to watch all the videos that I was part of when this thing broke a couple years ago. | ||
| And I was I'm all for open government, but it's just naive to think that they can just be glass door open, see everything all the time. | ||
| So I think it's one of these really complex things. | ||
| And it's so strange how you see all these people cheering the release of Chelsea Manning at the same time screaming about all the information that Chelsea Manning's Uh, espionage or release or whatever you want to call it, led to. | ||
| And this is one of these things where you got to try to be intellectually honest. | ||
| The world is actually kind of complex. | ||
| Somebody's saying that Dave can't talk without the teleprompter. | ||
| I have no teleprompter right now, obviously. | ||
| The only time I have a teleprompter is when I do the direct messages. | ||
| And to be honest with you, I don't even really like using the teleprompter. | ||
| I only use it in those instances because I'm usually doing like a five minute piece. | ||
| And if I was to do it off the top of my head, it would obviously be a lot sloppier and whatever. | ||
| I don't get any great joy out of the teleprompter, but I assure you I'm not using the teleprompter right now. | ||
| Somebody asked, when am I going on Bill Maher's show? | ||
| I would love to go on Bill Maher's show. | ||
| When I started doing stand-up back in 98, he was doing Politically Incorrect. | ||
| I actually interned, or I was a PA on Politically Incorrect for a couple weeks. | ||
| They shot some stuff in New York. | ||
| Bill has been one of my biggest influences as a comic. | ||
| I met him twice this year. | ||
| I had a nice chat with him. | ||
| I've met with the team over there, the booker and the executive producer. | ||
| Agents are talking to them about getting him in here and me over there. | ||
| It will happen. | ||
| It will happen. | ||
| I hope it happens this year Look more than anything else I think it could happen directly because of you guys because as this split on the left which now is This thing went from when I started talking about this stuff You know a year and a half ago when I had my first show on aura with with Sam Harris and then subsequently had people like Ayaan and Majid And Douglas Murray and a whole bunch of other people and Ali Rizvi and Sarah Hayter and all these people. | ||
| And we started talking about this split on the left and what it could lead to. | ||
| That it could lead to someone like Trump. | ||
| Which we were all saying. | ||
| Everybody was saying it. | ||
| I welcome you to watch those shows. | ||
| Now that split, which at the time was just like a little scratch, now it's a gaping fucking wound. | ||
| And everyone knows it, right? | ||
| So for all the people that five years ago, the media was thrilled to tell you how the Republicans are splitting in half. | ||
| It's the Tea Party versus the Conservatives and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Now they're happy to tell you it's the Trumps versus the Conservatives. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| There is a massive split on the left and the media won't really fully report on it because it's their guys. | ||
| But that's one of the reasons why you guys come to me and to some of the other people that are in this space. | ||
| So my point is really that there will be more reason for Bill to put me on because I guess I'm a voice in that space. | ||
| And he sort of exists in that space too, but we exist on it in very different ways. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| What you guys get from me is the fully raw stuff, right? | ||
| Again, I'm not reading off a teleprompter right now. | ||
| You're getting fully raw stuff. | ||
| I don't have a team of 20 writers. | ||
| I don't know how many writers he had, but I don't have a whole staff of 20 people. | ||
| I have two great people that work with me. | ||
| And that's what the beauty of the internet is. | ||
| So I'm sort of doing it at this level. | ||
| Bill's doing it at the TV level. | ||
| And I don't think we agree on everything. | ||
| There's definitely been some things over the last year or so | ||
| that I disagree with Bill on. | ||
| So, you know, actually, for example, I don't know if you guys saw this, | ||
| but in one of his shows last season, he, you know, when he ends the show | ||
| before he does "New Rules" and he gives his final speech, or I guess it's right after "New Rules," | ||
| he did a thing about how the rise of Trump is not related to the left. | ||
| That this is purely what the Republicans have led to. | ||
| Now, you know my feelings on that. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| And I know that's not true because so many of you email me about it or comment in the section saying, I used to be on the left. | ||
| I was a progressive or I was a liberal. | ||
| I see this craziness about thought control and lack of free speech and all this awful stuff coming out of the left and being unable to talk about Islam and all these things. | ||
| And that has driven me more to the right, or it's driven me more to the center, or it's made me vote for Trump. | ||
| I mean, I've seen these things over and over and over again. | ||
| So Bill did a piece about how that wasn't the case. | ||
| And in the piece, if you look over his shoulder, there's an article where it's Douglas Murray writing an article, I think it was in the Independent, but I could be wrong on that, where in the article, Douglas Murray is making the case that I've been making, which is that it is because of the left that this is happening. | ||
| And in it, he says, in the first paragraph of the article, if you look really close, you can see it, he says, you know, there've been a few people fighting this in America, including Sam Harris, Bill Maher, and Dave Rubin. | ||
| So, apparently, Douglas thinks Bill has been fighting him, but maybe Bill doesn't. | ||
| But anyway, that would be a beautiful thing to talk about with him. | ||
| And I think there'll be more reason to have him on. | ||
| If I don't turn the hourglass, people are gonna freak out. | ||
| Alright, let's turn the hourglass. | ||
| Here we go, people. | ||
| At the end of this... | ||
| If we don't have five, let's see, where is it? | ||
| If we don't have 500,000 subscribers by the end of this hourglass, I will do something crazy. | ||
| I don't know what it will be, but I will do something crazy. | ||
| Somebody asking what countries I've visited. | ||
| I've been to Mexico, I've been to Canada, I've been to Egypt, I've been to Israel, I've been to Jordan, I've been to England, I've been to France, I've been to Italy, I've been to Holland. | ||
| I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple in there. | ||
| The two countries that I really want to visit next are Japan, which I've always wanted to go to since I was a kid. | ||
| When I remember turning over my Nintendo Made in Japan, I thought, I gotta go to this place. | ||
| So I've always wanted to go to Japan. | ||
| And I really love Japanese culture in general. | ||
| And I'd love to go to Australia. | ||
| I have a big audience in Australia. | ||
| I have a bunch of Australian friends. | ||
| I love Australian people. | ||
| So those are the next two that I want to get to. | ||
| Okay, the hourglass is counting down. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Have you tried to get a communist on the show or a hardcore socialist? | ||
| Throw some names at me and let me know. | ||
| I mean, I've reached out to a gajillion people. | ||
| So for the small percentage of people that consistently criticize me for not having enough people on the far left, I have reached out to a ton of people. | ||
| I've reached out to a lot of people who I really don't like. | ||
| Who I really think are genuinely bad players. | ||
| I don't have to name them all all the time. | ||
| But you know, at the same time, if you would even look at my guests in 2017, in just the few weeks that we've been here. | ||
| I started with Margaret Cho. | ||
| She's a hardcore progressive comedian. | ||
| Certainly buys into a lot of the SJW stuff that I don't buy into. | ||
| We had a perfectly healthy conversation about it. | ||
| The following week, I had Eric Weinstein. | ||
| I would say he's a classical liberal. | ||
| I don't know that he's said it himself. | ||
| But this is a guy who supported Hillary Clinton, who is the managing director of Teal Capital. | ||
| Peter Teal at the same time, his boss, right? | ||
| So this is basically the number two guy there. | ||
| Peter Teal, his boss, was speaking at the Republican Convention for Trump and is on the Trump transition team. | ||
| So I give a lot of credit to Peter Teal for that. | ||
| But again, so I had a progressive and then I had someone that supported Hillary for president. | ||
| Then after that, who did I have on after Weinstein? | ||
| I just want to go through my guests this year. | ||
| So this week, I had Dennis Prager on, who is pretty much, I would say, the definition of a conservative. | ||
| But interestingly, we did sort of mesh on some of this old school liberal stuff isn't that far from conservatives. | ||
| And that's the thing, the crazier that the left goes, With all this free speech nonsense and collectivism and all this stuff. | ||
| Well then, by default, real liberals automatically become conservatives because conservatives, conservatism sort of means holding on to something that's kind of old. | ||
| So liberals will go, wait, that was the way it used to be, not the way, crazy way it is now. | ||
| And then old school liberals are going to become conservatives. | ||
| I've been trying to deal with this shit. | ||
| Who did we have last week? | ||
| Last week we had Ioannis Varoufakis, who is the former Greek finance minister, who at one time described himself as a Marxist, including, you know, he's a believer in a bunch of different economic theories. | ||
| And by the way, when I interviewed Dennis Prager this week, about two hours before that I interviewed Jerry Coyne, who is an evolutionary biologist, Who is a total atheist. | ||
| Prager argued some stuff from a religious perspective. | ||
| I thoroughly enjoyed talking to both of them, even though I think they would disagree on 99% of stuff. | ||
| I tended to agree more, I think, with Jerry Coyne on some stuff than Dennis Prager, but I welcome you guys to watch that. | ||
| And by the end, by the way, with Prager, there was a lot of stuff we didn't get to and we agreed, even though, look, we talked about gay marriage and had a major disagreement, a whole bunch of other things, but it was totally done in the spirit of respectfulness. | ||
| So anyway, to the bigger point of would I have some communists or some Stalinists or some Marxists, yeah, send them my way. | ||
| I don't mind talking to these people. | ||
| It's been hard to book some of them, but absolutely I would. | ||
| All right, let's see what else is going on here. | ||
| Dave, what's your thought on Kevin O'Leary running for the Conservative Party leadership in Canada? | ||
| Do you expect him to have a Trump-like win, considering he's outrageous but pragmatic? | ||
| So for those of you who haven't heard this, Kevin O'Leary, who's Mr. Wonderful on Shark Tank, which is one of the few shows that I watch when I have a moment to watch anything, is running for the Conservative Party premiership. | ||
| The head of the Conservative Party, basically, in Canada. | ||
| I really like Kevin O'Leary. | ||
| I say to David sometimes when we're watching the show, I say, this guy makes the show because he's being the bad guy. | ||
| He negotiates in a different way. | ||
| He almost strikes me as a Trump figure with sort of a more clear business sense, at least in the public space. | ||
| Like there's a real, you can really see his logic. | ||
| Where Trump, maybe you can't see his logic as easily. | ||
| That doesn't mean, you know, a lot of people say, well, Trump's just an idiot. | ||
| He just says whatever he thinks. | ||
| He doesn't know what he's saying. | ||
| I just don't buy that. | ||
| I don't think you can become president that way. | ||
| I just don't buy that. | ||
| But I do buy that you can't fully see Trump's machinations in his brain. | ||
| Kevin O'Leary strikes me as a really smart, decent guy who certainly believes in capitalism and individualism and a lot of things that I believe in. | ||
| And he strikes me as a decent guy, too. | ||
| And believe it or not, I had a bottle of his red wine from Costco and I thought it was pretty decent. | ||
| So I think that's a good move by them. | ||
| There's definitely a certain amount of backlash against Trudeau in Canada, although I know a lot of people do still like him, but I do think he's sort of taken the mantle of this SJW bigotier person. | ||
| You know, there's that ridiculous picture of where he's in a mosque that's segregated men and women with women upstairs, and he's standing around with all the men, and he says, my sister's up there, but kind of like, it was so like smugly ridiculous. | ||
| Like, why are you for this segregation? | ||
| It's just nonsense. | ||
| So I think there's an opportunity there, and I sense that if things, if Trump is able to do some good things in America, that Canada probably would want to go that route too. | ||
| Can you get Nigel Farage on the show? | ||
| I don't want to jinx anything, but I think it's going to happen. | ||
| He followed me on Twitter. | ||
| He only follows like two, three hundred people. | ||
| So there's been contact made in the last couple weeks. | ||
| We're just going to get through the inauguration and see. | ||
| So cross your fingers on that one. | ||
| Feel free to tweet at him. | ||
| But I do think that one is going to happen. | ||
| How much of the struggle between right and left is bad wording to you, such as gender identity? | ||
| And biological gender, you know, that's a really good one. | ||
| You know, I talk about the label thing a lot, how these labels are becoming more meaningless and, you know, but at the same time you have to use labels when you're talking about ideas because otherwise it's just, I could talk about these sort of esoteric, ephemeral things and it would be impossible to get a point across, right? | ||
| So sometimes, like when I have to make the distinction between, you know, what a progressive is and why being a liberal in the classical sense is not being a progressive. | ||
| Or when you have to talk about the difference between an Islamist and a Jihadist versus a nominal Muslim or any of these things. | ||
| Labels are getting sort of ridiculous and it gets a lot messier when it comes to things like gender identity and biological gender and all that stuff. | ||
| As a general rule, and I would say this is my... | ||
| My sort of guiding principle in life, I think you know what is best to do in your life. | ||
| So that's a very classic liberal belief in liberty, that it is your own mind to figure out what is right for you and go get it. | ||
| That's very much in line with classical liberalism. | ||
| It's very much in line with libertarianism. | ||
| If you saw my show with Don Watkins from earlier this week from the Ayn Rand Institute, that's very much the idea of objectivism. | ||
| That it is your duty as a person. | ||
| That's the philosophy of objectivism. | ||
| It's basically your duty as a person to go ahead and figure out what's right for you. | ||
| And then through that you'll do good in your community and all that stuff. | ||
| And that's definitely connected to laissez-faire economics and a few other things. | ||
| I don't buy into fully all of that. | ||
| But everyone wants everyone to take a purity test. | ||
| And if you say anything that sounds a little different, now you're not this, or you're a rhino, or you're a cuck, it's like, everyone just take a freaking chill pill, please. | ||
| All right, cool. | ||
| Keep firing the questions at me. | ||
| We got a whole bunch here. | ||
| Hey Dave, what do you think about the Women's March issue between the pro-choicers and the pro-lifers? | ||
| I mean, this is exactly what I was just referring to. | ||
| You can be a woman and march. | ||
| Let's say you're... | ||
| You're a woman, you don't like Trump, so you're gonna march. | ||
| If you can't march with a woman who thinks differently on abortion than you do, you guys got a big problem. | ||
| And this sort of division constantly, figuring out what division you have with somebody and then letting that dictate everything else is tough. | ||
| I'll give you two examples of things that have happened to me recently. | ||
| I've mentioned to you guys a couple of times that I have three childhood friends who we have completely different political views now. | ||
| And these were my best friends growing up. | ||
| And one of them became a huge Trump guy. | ||
| He's a doctor. | ||
| He didn't like what happened with Obamacare. | ||
| Became a huge Trump guy. | ||
| One was sort of completely apolitical his entire life. | ||
| I don't even think he would know who the vice president was two years ago. | ||
| And he started becoming a bit of a Trump guy. | ||
| The other one's a total progressive. | ||
| I would say Rugrexit, okay? | ||
| We were engaged in this text battle over these last two years, and at times it would get extremely heated. | ||
| And there was one time where I really sensed, wow, this could end a friendship here, not coming from me. | ||
| And I made sure to say, guys, No matter whether we agree on this stuff or not, we share something, a history, that is much more important than this nonsensical political stuff. | ||
| But people are dropping friends because of politics, and that's crazy. | ||
| And just when I was in New York a couple days ago, I saw three old college friends. | ||
| Some of the brightest guys that I was in, I studied politics in college, that I was in classes with one of them, with two of them actually, and the other one's a really bright guy and a lawyer in New York. | ||
| And we got into a really heated thing. | ||
| I mean, one of them was really screaming about how Trump is the next Hitler and lists and deportations and all this stuff. | ||
| And it was getting really, really heated. | ||
| The waiter I could see was like getting nervous while he was coming over. | ||
| And I made another point of saying, guys, At some point, I was just like, let's just cut it here and catch up. | ||
| You have a wife now, don't you? | ||
| What are your kids' names? | ||
| At some point, you gotta get past some of this stuff and realize people are allowed to think differently than you. | ||
| If you don't, then you are a bigot, because a bigot is intolerant of other ideas. | ||
| A bigot doesn't mean you just hate people because of their race or religion, but you are actually bigoted if you say, look over there, that guy's a liberal, that guy's a conservative, And now I hate him because of that and I will not tolerate that. | ||
| So for me, you guys know, I think the progressive ideology is a toxic, collectivist, destructive ideology that is evil and truly misguided. | ||
| Truly misguided. | ||
| But I will consistently try to win these people over with ideas and I will consistently invite them on the show. | ||
| I do find, though, that the lack of tolerance, unfortunately, comes more from people on the left. | ||
| That's what I see. | ||
| When I post videos, if I post a video with a person on the left, I see people on the right often saying, you know what, I think this is bullshit, this person just laid out a bunch of garbage, but I watched, I, you know, I comment on it, but that's it. | ||
| If I do it the other way, I see a lot of, ah, fuck this asshole, this fucking cunt, motherfucker, dickhead ass, and it's like, That's not cool. | ||
| That's not cool. | ||
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| Thoughts on the Milo UC Davis event. | ||
| So I was in New York when this happened, so I was a little off the grid. | ||
| Mini. | ||
| I did a mini off the grid. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| So I didn't fully see all of it, but you guys know my feelings. | ||
| First off, I have no evidence that Milo is a white supremacist. | ||
| I have met him several times. | ||
| Not met him. | ||
| He's been to my house. | ||
| I like Milo. | ||
| I've been out with him. | ||
| He's going to be here in two weeks. | ||
| I mean, I like Milo. | ||
| Yes, do we disagree on things? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Go watch, I mean, watch both of the times that we've sat down for an hour, and watch us disagree on several things, including gay marriage, including what real liberalism is, including where I make the distinction between radical Islam and the nominal Muslim that he doesn't make, and I've tried to clean that up for him, and he doesn't even want my help. | ||
| So I disagree with him on a bunch of stuff, and that is all irrelevant, that all of these Virtue signaling fools that won't let the guy speak. | ||
| Milo is... I've never heard him trying to... that he wants a country of white supremacism or anything like that. | ||
| Like, it's crazy. | ||
| And then I see all these really rich, powerful, influential celebrities that want to boycott Simon & Schuster. | ||
| You know, they want to boycott... Simon & Schuster's written books probably about... from every political persuasion across the board. | ||
| Political persuasion, philosophical persuasion, religious persuasion. | ||
| I would guess Simon & Schuster's got the whole freaking gamut there. | ||
| But these people suddenly, they want Milo to be silenced. | ||
| Or Twitter wants Milo to be silenced. | ||
| And it's like, wait a minute, wait a minute. | ||
| The Muslim Brotherhood, their stated goal is worldwide jihad. | ||
| They want everyone to submit to Islam. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| This is not good if you're a progressive, if you're a free thinker, if you're an atheist, if you're a Or a Jew, or a gay, or a Christian, or basically anyone. | ||
| Or if you're a Muslim, it's not good unless you want to live under total theocracy. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| They're verified on Twitter. | ||
| That guy Robert Spencer, the head of the alt-right who did the hell Hitler thing in DC a couple months back, he's verified on Twitter. | ||
| Milo got the boot. | ||
| Now we can talk about Twitter's terms of services, and I'm not saying this is a First Amendment issue because it's not the government and all that nonsense. | ||
| But Milo has brought out some really authoritarian pieces in people. | ||
| And again, this goes back to what I said before about comedians, because I see these comedians for censorship now. | ||
| And it's like, you think George Carlin would have been for censoring Milo? | ||
| And it's like, I can tell you that he would not have been for that. | ||
| Okay, let's see. | ||
| Hold on, let's hear. | ||
| They're showing me some images here, so just real quick. | ||
| Yeah, so it sounds like at UC Davis that it was canceled due to security concerns. | ||
| It's unclear whether there were broken windows or hammers or any of that stuff. | ||
| Look, I don't know about that, but I can tell you firsthand, when I spoke at UCLA with Milo, there were people, there were kids that created a wall to stop other kids from getting in. | ||
| They called a bomb threat. | ||
| They were pounding on the doors while we were in there. | ||
| They were getting in cops' faces like this, trying to provoke the cops. | ||
| They were throwing garbage cans. | ||
| I mean, this is all shit that I actually saw with my own two eyes, so I'm not making it up. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| This is not good for free speech or for tolerance. | ||
| And speaking of free speech and tolerance, if you guys are in the Portland area, I'm going to be speaking at Portland State with Peter Boghossian and Christina Hoff Sommers on January 29th. | ||
| I'll be up there talking about free speech. | ||
| And I'm doing a free speech thing at UCLA, I think, on February 1st. | ||
| We'll have more information on that soon. | ||
| This is a good one. | ||
| Did Gary Johnson's implosion during the 2016 election spell the end of a libertarian running for the president for the future? | ||
| Look, I think most of you guys know my feelings on Gary at this point. | ||
| I've had Gary on the show. | ||
| I've spent about a half hour privately with him before that in the green room over at OroTV. | ||
| I think he's an extremely decent guy. | ||
| I think if you were to pick at a Trump and Hillary and Gary Johnson. | ||
| Who's the most decent person out of these three? | ||
| Who's the least corrupt? | ||
| All that stuff is Gary Johnson. | ||
| When I did my video in August about Gary Johnson, my whole point was that this guy can't win. | ||
| There's no doubt he can't win. | ||
| But let's get him to the 15% so that for one debate, You guys have all heard me say this. | ||
| For one debate, let the guy in. | ||
| Let's hear some other ideas. | ||
| Let's hear some ideas about limited government and states' rights and things of that nature. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| Even if he had crushed it at the debate, and I fully admit it, he's not a great debater, and I said Trump would have, Brow beat him, and Hillary would have beat him on policy, He's not even a great debater, nor is he a great libertarian. | ||
| This is a guy who wanted to force the baker to bake the gay cake. | ||
| I would not want that. | ||
| I would not force a private business to do something they don't want to do. | ||
| For all of those reasons, I thought, let the guy at least get in a debate, because I think that would be good for the country. | ||
| It would help unfurl some of the two-party system, which we desperately need to loosen up on. | ||
| From that moment forward, I don't know if he was watching that thing and he got nervous or what, but he was horrible. | ||
| He was horrible. | ||
| I mean, the Aleppo moment, not being able to name a world leader he likes, the thing that his tongue started talking like this. | ||
| I mean, all this stuff is like, man. | ||
| When we talk about the battle of ideas, what ideas are, you get an idea out there and then it doesn't just magically overnight become a reality. | ||
| But he really could have, if he would have been really prepared and ready for this, I think something good could have happened here and it would have maybe set the stage for some of these ideas to move forward. | ||
| And I think unfortunately he failed at that. | ||
| All that being said, you know, to be the third party guy, they only would give him press when he did something bad. | ||
| So maybe part of his strategy was, I'm going to keep saying stupid things just to stay in the press. | ||
| Because think about it, the only times you heard about Gary Johnson had nothing to do with talking about limited government or not having a bloated military. | ||
| or what states rights are, legalizing marijuana, or not caring about gay marriage, | ||
| things that a lot of people agree on. | ||
| The only times you heard about him were Aleppo and this other nonsense. | ||
| So that also shows why the media is in collusion with the two big parties. | ||
| And hopefully after Trump, some of this stuff is crumbling. | ||
| I don't know, but I certainly hope so. | ||
| Dave, do you think a Trump presidency could actually galvanize the social justice left | ||
| instead of making them weaker? | ||
| So that's a great question. | ||
| And I would say it's going to galvanize a small portion. | ||
| A portion of these people, and we see them today. | ||
| Check this some clown that I screen captured a tweet about that, you know, he wants to do this disrupt thing at the inauguration and because he wants to stop white supremacy and anti-LGBT hate and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Ask Peter Thiel if Trump hates gay people. | ||
| He's literally, literally, whether you like Trump or not, he is literally the most pro-LGBT Republican nominee ever. | ||
| He talked about gay rights in his acceptance speech and got an applause break. | ||
| They actually stopped him from talking to applaud. | ||
| Peter Thiel, an openly gay man, spoke about being openly gay and proud before that. | ||
| That had never happened at a Republican So even if you don't like everything about Trump, when anyone in life, when someone starts changing, you can't just hold them to the angry shit that you had from before. | ||
| You have to acknowledge some change, right? | ||
| As you would want them to do to you. | ||
| So I think basically this SJW bigotier nonsense, these people, this oppression Olympics, all this stuff that we talk about so much here, I think there's a massive amount of people waking up to it, and that's why I do think | ||
| There's a chance that liberals can reclaim the left. | ||
| There's a chance. | ||
| I don't know that we can do it. | ||
| Maybe years from now, I'm gonna look back on all this and go, man, I should have bailed on that way earlier because the left went completely bonkers. | ||
| I think that's a good possibility. | ||
| I genuinely don't know. | ||
| But at the same time, I think there's a chance we can save some of the left. | ||
| But if these people, let's say they do galvanize. | ||
| Let's say they do what this person's asking and they galvanize and start gaining strength. | ||
| While they'll gain strength with their core, they're gonna keep purging people. | ||
| First off, you can have all the people that hate them anyway, right? | ||
| You can have the conservatives and all the other people that hate them anyway, but then all the decent liberals are gonna keep leaving. | ||
| And if you don't give that group of people that I think most of you are in, I think sort of a new center, as Ali Rizvi says, if you don't give that group of people a new home, they're all gonna move to the right. | ||
| And we see this happening across Europe right now, because you see Marie Le Pen and some of these other things strengthening, because it's a reaction to the left. | ||
| It just is. | ||
| I know people don't like hearing it, but it just is. | ||
| Somebody said, who is my favorite interviewer? | ||
| I mean, my favorite interviewer of all time is Larry King, of course. | ||
| I mean, Larry, even before I knew Larry, I actually did watch his show for many years on CNN. | ||
| And I always thought he was respectful and curious and didn't try to, you know, rampage over people or ask gotcha questions. | ||
| And I guess a lot of that sort of got built into me. | ||
| I think, you know, I watched a little bit of Johnny Carson before he retired. | ||
| It was mostly before my time, but I watched a little bit of that. | ||
| Again, thought he was respectful and interesting. | ||
| Or interested, I should say. | ||
| So for me, it's like, you know, there are times, people ask me sometimes how much preparation I do for an interview. | ||
| And how much do I want to read the questions and all that and you know I say it at the end of the interview when it's a really good one I never look down once. | ||
| Now occasionally I have to look down because there's there's a specific point that I've got to get to or I need to know an exact quote or a theory that I you know when I had Eric Weinstein on and I'm talking about mathematical theories well I don't know all these mathematical theories he could have been making shit up And I wouldn't have known. | ||
| But for the most part, I try to go into an interview saying, sometimes if I know a little bit less, actually, that's better because then I just hear them and I think, well, what's the next logical thing to ask as the follow-up? | ||
| You know, and I know a certain amount of people want me to be more combative with people and all that. | ||
| And I think, you know, maybe as I have some of these people return, I've only been doing this show for a year and a half, maybe as I have some of these people come back, then things will be a little more combative. | ||
| Once there's the rapport there for that, It's not really my style. | ||
| I like letting the ideas kind of ruminate on their own and then let you guys make up your mind. | ||
| I don't have to yell at you. | ||
| I believe you can make up your own mind. | ||
| If you're watching me to yell at you, you got another thing coming. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Oh, I said Weinstein, but it's Weinstein. | ||
| It's Eric Weinstein, I should say that. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Will I ever go back on the Drunken Peasants podcast? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If they ask me back, I'd be happy to do that. | ||
| No problem. | ||
| Happy to do it. | ||
| Oh, this is a good one. | ||
| Where do we draw the line between SJW craziness and common decency towards fellow humans? | ||
| I mean, look. | ||
| Everyone wants people to be decent. | ||
| You want to be decent, right? | ||
| You go out to get gas, you want to be decent to the attendant. | ||
| The attendant wants you to be decent to them. | ||
| You go to Burger King, you might say hi to the person behind the counter. | ||
| Be decent to people. | ||
| I don't know that the government is supposed to teach everybody that, but at the end of the day, the truth is that you are allowed to be racist in your own home, or even out on the street. | ||
| You're not allowed to act out on people. | ||
| You can't do violent things towards people, but you're allowed, it's just the sad truth, | ||
| and I don't think we would have it any other way. | ||
| I don't want the thought police. | ||
| So you're allowed not to be a good person. | ||
| You're allowed to be a grumpy, bigoted asshole. | ||
| You just are. | ||
| But how do you draw a line there? | ||
| Well, I think the way you draw the line, really, and I've said this a few times on the show, | ||
| I think I did this in a direct message in the last couple weeks, | ||
| is that if you really revert back to liberty, if you revert back to the individual and liberty, | ||
| then you will fundamentally be good to people, because everyone you meet, | ||
| you would judge as their individual selves. | ||
| So in other words, you wouldn't walk, you wouldn't go somewhere and see a gay person and judge them because, | ||
| "Oh my God, I knew this gay person who lived next door to me and he was an asshole. | ||
| He was always out partying all night and doing drugs and now here's this gay person." | ||
| You'd say, "Oh, you happen to be gay? I don't even know how you would know that necessarily, | ||
| but you happen to be gay. I wouldn't judge you as an individual." | ||
| And this would go for a black person or for a Muslim person or anything else. | ||
| So individualism, that's why I talk about individualism, that's how you escape the SJW nonsense. | ||
| Stop judging by the collective. | ||
| They keep telling you that these people, these SJW bigots here, keep telling you that they're not the racists, they're not the bigots, except they view everything through that lens. | ||
| The only way to combat that is by individualism, by doing what's right for yourself. | ||
| And I think by doing what's right for yourself, you will do good. | ||
| For the people around you. | ||
| What are your thoughts on technological unemployment and universal basic income? | ||
| This has come up a bunch lately and I definitely got to get somebody on to talk about universal basic income. | ||
| From what I know about it, I'm not sold yet. | ||
| I don't think the idea of putting everyone at sort of this equal level actually would create equality. | ||
| I think it would create this sort of fake equality. | ||
| So I'm not personally into it yet, but I know it is gaining a little bit of steam and I absolutely will have someone on to talk about it. | ||
| Technological unemployment is interesting because we are going to keep automating to the point that we will put a lot of people out of work. | ||
| You know, this is one of my things with the minimum wage. | ||
| So, you know, they can tell you. | ||
| That they want $15 minimum wage. | ||
| Now, I personally am not for the government telling private businesses how much the market should dictate what they can pay their, what they have to pay their employees. | ||
| But even forgetting that, just logically think. | ||
| You know, I just saw this thing, I've mentioned this a couple of times, | ||
| that Amazon is gonna start opening up stores where there are gonna be no people. | ||
| It is gonna be completely automated and you're gonna walk in, scan your phone, | ||
| or it'll automatically scan your phone when you walk in, you're gonna press a button, | ||
| a robot's gonna bring you your thing on a conveyor belt or a drone or something. | ||
| I mean, this is coming and that'll be it. | ||
| Well, now if you force them to pay more for people, You're just going to get more and more of that and put more and more people out of work. | ||
| That's just a simple truth. | ||
| So if you force McDonald's, I know it sounds right, right? | ||
| It sounds right. | ||
| Like the average McDonald's worker should be paid more. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| And maybe there is some truth to that. | ||
| I don't think that the executives at McDonald's all have to make that much to survive. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| That is sort of how our system works. | ||
| And I don't know that there's a better system. | ||
| I don't think that constantly redistributing that will make it any better. | ||
| But the point is that if you say to any company, all right, you've been paying $8 an hour for this. | ||
| And now we're going to double it. | ||
| You're going to basically have to do double it, and let's go to 15. | ||
| Well, then they're going to say, you know what? | ||
| We're not going to have a human behind the counter at McDonald's anymore. | ||
| You're going to have an iPad. | ||
| And then you'll have one guy that comes in and services iPads once a month, and that'll be it. | ||
| So it's about how do we get people out of minimum wage jobs, and I think all of that is through education. | ||
| But I definitely want to explore this stuff more, for sure. | ||
| Somebody said Milton Friedman advocated for negative tax system, which as I understand is essentially a universal basic income. | ||
| So I'll definitely do more on that. | ||
| I think, you know, I hope you guys understand that I don't pretend to know things that I don't know about, so this is a case where I'm going to chalk it up to that. | ||
| Dave, any chance of Elon Musk or Peter Thiel on Rubin Report? | ||
| I'd go bonkers for that. | ||
| We've definitely reached out to Thiel. | ||
| There's been a little headway on that front. | ||
| I think we've reached out to Elon Musk, but I can ask the guys. | ||
| Of course, I would love to have either one of them. | ||
| You know, there's so many things upside down right now. | ||
| Thiel's part of the transition team for Trump. | ||
| Elon Musk was in their meeting with Trump. | ||
| So many interesting people are walking out of there. | ||
| Jim Brown's walking out of there. | ||
| You know, what's his name? | ||
| Steve Harvey is walking out of their Trump Tower. | ||
| There's a lot of things upside down right now. | ||
| Also, it's clear that the mainstream media's control over everybody is just crumbling by the second, which is wonderful. | ||
| So I think there's going to be a lot more opportunity to get some interesting newsmakers in here for sure. | ||
| Well, I don't think that... | ||
| There should be free college. | ||
| Well, first of all, there's no such thing as free, right? | ||
| When you're saying free, I mean, you have to pay professors, you have to pay janitors, you have to pay all the, you have to pay the workers that work in the cafeterias. | ||
| There's no such thing as free. | ||
| What you mean by free is that should we tax people a certain amount to make this level of education free. | ||
| Now, I'm absolutely, and this is where I would not be a libertarian, I'm absolutely for funding public education. | ||
| I come from the public education. | ||
| I went to public I went to elementary school. | ||
| I went to public junior high school. | ||
| I went to public high school. | ||
| I went to a public state school. | ||
| I went to SUNY Binghamton, State University of New York Binghamton. | ||
| It was not very expensive, which is why I was able to go there. | ||
| I didn't have a choice to go to a private school. | ||
| I went to SUNY Binghamton. | ||
| I got a good education in political science. | ||
| I may be the only person on earth using a political science degree for something. | ||
| I guess that's what I'm doing here, right? | ||
| So I believe in a strong education system. | ||
| So I do believe there's some, so I'm in the way that I'm not a pure libertarian or pure anarchist, that I don't think taxes are theft. | ||
| I think you have to have some societal norms. | ||
| I think driver's licenses are okay, things of that nature. | ||
| And I can have a perfectly healthy disagreement with some of my friends on this. | ||
| I would say you have to have a healthy education system, but I don't think free college is necessary, but I think you can figure out ways through grants and through private organizations and everything else to make college more affordable. | ||
| I think what's happened with the private, I mean, you have private colleges that are costing 35, $40,000 a year. | ||
| That's absolutely insane. | ||
| And these doctors that are, You know, getting out of school, and that, oh, 100 grand. | ||
| I mean, that's bonkers. | ||
| They have to work for years just to get out of debt so they can be doctors? | ||
| That doesn't make sense. | ||
| So we have to figure out some ways to deal with some of that stuff. | ||
| Somebody asked when Stephen Fry is returning. | ||
| We're working on it. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| He did say he'll come back. | ||
| You know, he's busy. | ||
| He's got this sitcom on CBS, which I haven't seen yet. | ||
| But I think he's in the process, maybe, of moving to the States. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We've gone back and forth for a little bit, but absolutely will. | ||
| And he's a great guy. | ||
| Dave, please reconfirm the upcoming interview with Phil DeFranco. | ||
| This would make me very happy. | ||
| So Phil agreed to do it. | ||
| I share a great amount of... | ||
| I think camaraderie with Phil because I think he's had a similar awakening about what's going on politically in society as I have. | ||
| And we obviously, we talk about a lot of the same things and things like that. | ||
| So he's publicly said that he'll do it. | ||
| I direct message him on Twitter, haven't heard back yet. | ||
| So harass him a little bit, harass the guy and then I'm sure he'll do it. | ||
| I have no doubt that he'll do it. | ||
| And he's a good guy. | ||
| And what I would love to talk to him about beyond just Politics is that he was in this space. | ||
| He was in this YouTube space well before I was. | ||
| I think the guy just cracked five million subscribers and created his own thing. | ||
| And I think that's a beautiful thing. | ||
| And that's a great argument for capitalism, by the way. | ||
| And it's a great argument for liberty and doing what you think is right for your life. | ||
| When are the fan shows gonna be on again? | ||
| I think we have one tentatively booked for March, if I'm not mistaken, unless someone yells at me through the window. | ||
| And as I said, we are doing a YouTube week. | ||
| Which will be, you guys will see it I believe starting last week in February, but we are going to do a fan show for sure. | ||
| I mean that really, I've said it before, but that thing was really one of the most rewarding things, one of the most rewarding days of my life. | ||
| I mean to talk to 20 people in a row, we shot it all in the course of one day, we did a quick little lunch break. | ||
| But to talk to 20 people in a row from all over the world about all of this stuff and realizing that people, regardless of, you know, of course I knew this anyway, but people regardless of age and sexuality and nationality and religion and all that stuff, and gender, that we were coming together on some of this stuff, it's incredibly powerful. | ||
| And if I've been a little bit of a conduit for any of that, that's pretty awesome. | ||
| Dave, what do you think will be the next world upset after Brexit, Trump, and the Italian referendum, or against the popular grain type voting? | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| What do I think the next one is going to be? | ||
| I think what will be interesting is to see what happens in France, because France is sort of at the crossroads right now of are they going to continue down the path that they're going down, which they're having all sorts of problems with. | ||
| Migration and with terrorism and integration and all that stuff. | ||
| So are they going to continue that or are they going to then choose someone like Marie Le Pen, who's on the right, who may deal with it in a different way, in more of a Trump-like way. | ||
| Although the truth is we don't know how Trump's going to deal with it even here at the moment. | ||
| We just don't know yet. | ||
| So I think France is going to be the next one. | ||
| And I actually think that the next thing is that it seems hard for me to believe at the moment But maybe things will change over the next little while. | ||
| But it seems hard to believe at the moment that the European Union is going to exist in 10 years. | ||
| It seems like these countries, and I would say watch my interview with Ioannis Varoufakis, former finance minister of Greece, as to why this doesn't seem like a sustainable or even right thing to do. | ||
| And I would say that if I lived In the UK, I think that I probably would have voted for Brexit because why would I want my life decisions to be made by people, by bureaucrats in Brussels? | ||
| Now at the same time, I understand why the free trade stuff was good and some of this other stuff was good and why they thought in theory that the borders, you know, making it easier to cross borders was gonna be better and all that stuff. | ||
| I suspect that's what I would have voted for. | ||
| So I think the continuing crumbling of the EU, I think, is gonna be the next big one. | ||
| All right, so let's see. | ||
| Oh, David, are you gonna interview Stefan Molyneux? | ||
| Yeah, we've agreed to do it. | ||
| I've been on his show, I think, twice. | ||
| He will do it. | ||
| We're trying to make it happen in studio. | ||
| So I think maybe it'll happen at the end of February or something, but we're working on it. | ||
| Dave, what do you think the future holds for journalism? | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| I mean, We're seeing it unfold right now. | ||
| Nobody trusts the mainstream media anymore and it's their own fault. | ||
| It just is their own fault with their, with all of the stuff that we saw with WikiLeaks and coordinating things with campaigns and you know even just today I saw something about how somebody was saying That maybe they won't do a White House Correspondents Dinner anymore? | ||
| So the White House Correspondents Dinner, you can find videos of me talking about this like four years ago, saying that this was the biggest corrupt bunch of bullshit ever. | ||
| That the same people who are supposed to guard the hen house are selling the eggs out the back door. | ||
| The people that are supposed to be calling out The people in power are going to parties with them and taking photos with them and drinking with them and all that stuff. | ||
| Now, I don't think in and of itself that any of that is necessarily that bad, right? | ||
| We're all humans. | ||
| So I don't think, I don't think that, um, let's say a governor can't be friends with a reporter. | ||
| But at the end of the day, if you keep being invited to parties, it's nice to feel cool. | ||
| It's nice to go to the cool kids' parties. | ||
| It's nice to go to fancy events and be around power. | ||
| That's just reality. | ||
| And they were all throwing it in our face this entire time. | ||
| And I heard that maybe they're not gonna do it anymore, and I actually think that would be great. | ||
| You know, by the way, if you hate Trump, one of the biggest silver linings you've got right now | ||
| is that the media that has been so lackadaisical and boring and bullshitty over the last eight years | ||
| might have to wake up now. | ||
| So maybe there is some silver lining for you there. | ||
| But as for journalism, I think probably what I've realized is that I've started to trust people more | ||
| than I trust news organizations. | ||
| So there's specific people that I like more than the organization themselves. | ||
| But there's a lot of garbage out there and it's really, really hard. | ||
| Look, I tell you guys the best information that I have. | ||
| I have never once intentionally lied on air. | ||
| I've never once intentionally distorted what someone has said. | ||
| Have I made mistakes? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Especially related to science, probably some math stuff. | ||
| Have I accidentally, maybe slightly misquoted someone? | ||
| Or something like I made mistakes, without question, and I try to own up to them when I do. | ||
| But, you know, I don't repeatedly lie. | ||
| I don't lie, period. | ||
| You know, in this scheme of things that I'm doing with you guys. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| And I don't even think that it sounds like I'm being so lofty right now. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I think it's just what I would want. | ||
| Look, if a thousand other people were doing what I'm doing and were doing it better than me, I'd go find something else to do. | ||
| As I said, I'd try out for the NBA and see what happens. | ||
| Any thoughts on having live streams with guests so your audience can ask them questions? | ||
| Absolutely, and I think this is one of the things we're going to start pushing, which is a good segue, to on Friday we're going to do a live stream thing in a way that we've never done before. | ||
| We just got some fancy new equipment that we're going to be testing out after the inauguration. | ||
| We've got a couple guests that I think most of you know, and we're going to have a couple different people at once doing all kinds of cool stuff. | ||
| So that'll be Friday right after the inauguration, so my guess is that'll be around probably noon-ish Eastern, but I'll be sure to post it on Twitter and in the YouTube feed before you get to it, or so that you're able to find it. | ||
| Let's see... Well, you know, we'll go for about five more minutes, how about that? | ||
| Where in the world would you like to live if you could not live in the USA? | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Well, if I can't live in the USA, then shit's really gone bad, and... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe completely off the grid? | ||
| I really don't know. | ||
| As I said, I want to visit Japan and Australia. | ||
| Maybe I'll find a little hideaway there. | ||
| You know where I'd go? | ||
| I'd go to that island that Luke was hiding on in The Force Awakens. | ||
| It seemed very pleasant there, quiet. | ||
| I like quiet. | ||
| That seems pretty good, so I think I'd probably do that. | ||
| Someone's calling me from a 214 area code. | ||
| Where is that? | ||
| Anyone know? | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Will you have any prominent climate skeptics on? | ||
| Watch my interview with Alex Epstein from the... he's from... | ||
| Well, his book was The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels. | ||
| He works for the Center for Industrial Progress. | ||
| I think it's his think tank. | ||
| And he's absolutely a skeptic. | ||
| I've also had Michael Mann on, Dr. Michael Mann from Penn State University, who is a leading climate scientist. | ||
| And I'll continue to have those conversations. | ||
| People get really angry when you even just talk about that stuff, but I'll absolutely continue to do that. | ||
| Can open source media work? | ||
| Well, it depends what you mean by that question, but I guess basically just by having everyone submit and figuring out what's what. | ||
| I mean, there's a little bit of a danger. | ||
| As I've said, look, the online thing is beautiful right now. | ||
| I'm part of this. | ||
| I love this. | ||
| I own what I do. | ||
| And thanks to you guys that support what we do on Patreon. | ||
| I have no boss. | ||
| I wake up every day, I have no boss, I'm able to do what I think is right and is good and will make me happy, and that's what I try to do. | ||
| And I think that's pretty great. | ||
| So there's a beauty to what's happening with the online world and the digital world. | ||
| And at the same time, anyone can do it. | ||
| Which is nice, but also means that if anyone can do it, well, then you're gonna get a lot of bullshit artists. | ||
| You're gonna get a lot of bad people doing it. | ||
| A lot of people who do wanna lie and trick you and use clickbait and nonsense. | ||
| And any moron can create a YouTube channel and put themselves at a desk and put on a jacket and pretend, make it look like they know what they're doing. | ||
| So there is a danger there too, for sure. | ||
| So you gotta watch out for that. | ||
| So open source, The low barrier to entry is the beauty of the internet and it's the nightmare of the internet. | ||
| And that's why the onus is now on you more than it used to be to figure out what you think and who you trust. | ||
| Okay, so we're going to wrap this thing up. | ||
| Reminder, we are fully fan-funded. | ||
| You guys literally built this studio. | ||
| You guys helped us build the studio, helped me move into this house, helped us expand tremendously, helped us get some new equipment that we're going to launch some new stuff starting on Friday. | ||
| By the way, we have big plans to change a few things and add a few things and do a whole bunch this year. | ||
| 2016 for us was building the bones, building the skeleton of what I think We can really do here, and 2017 is where we blow this thing out of the water. | ||
| So we are fully fan-funded. | ||
| It's patreon.com slash RubinReport, or you can go to rubinreport.com slash donate, where you can make a one-time donation on PayPal. | ||
| And because of that, you know, many of you know about this YouTube monetization issue, where they're watching certain videos. | ||
| If you talk about certain things, you get hit in the algorithm. | ||
| You don't make money on them. | ||
| Well, I don't have to worry about that as much as the average person on YouTube because we have a revenue stream of our fans that keeps us afloat. | ||
| The YouTube money is nice, obviously, and we reinvest that in the company, the production company that we've created. | ||
| But if I was totally beholden on YouTube money, A, we could never do this. | ||
| We could simply never do it. | ||
| I could not afford to do what we do. | ||
| But B, I would have to not talk about certain things because we know that they wouldn't monetize that well. | ||
| The free speech stuff doesn't monetize that well. | ||
| The stuff about Islam and jihad and terrorism, all that stuff doesn't. | ||
| monetize that well, which really sucks. | ||
| But we're working on a couple other partnerships and a couple other things like that. | ||
| But more importantly than anything else, I'm fan funded. | ||
| There's about 3,000 of you that allow the other hundreds of thousands of you, | ||
| if not millions of you that watch this on any given day, the ability to do that. | ||
| So I am only beholden to you guys, except I don't even know what you guys | ||
| really think about everything, 'cause I get some messages from you, | ||
| but I think you guys are all over the political map and that's a beautiful thing. | ||
| Okay, anyway, on that note, We're gonna do the live stream on Friday. | ||
| I thank you for joining me for happy hour. | ||
| And yeah, we're just gonna keep on chugging along. | ||
| And remember, just don't go crazy. | ||
| Everyone's going crazy. | ||
| Be one of the people who doesn't go crazy in the craziness. | ||
| All right, that's it. |
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